I've done "professional" x58 overclocking back in 2010/2011. Here some tips you probably don't know: -Westmere actually likes reducing PLL Voltage..most CPUs liked around 1.3-1.5V. You can reduce your Vcore up to 10%. -Running over 1.65V on the memory is no problem but NEVER exede a delta of 0.45V between your QPI voltage (memory controller) and your VDimm [example: 1.4V QPI 1.85V Ram "safe" / 1.2V QPI 1.7V Ram "unsafe"] (keep in mind to look up for what voltages the ICs on your memory can handle...modern 1.35V ICs will most likely die at 1.85V) -Unlike Bloomfield, Westmere/Gulftown allows you to reduce the Ram/Uncore Ratio to 1:1.5 . Don't do it. You loose so much performance. 1:2+ is always perfect on X58. [example: 2200Mhz Ram / 3300Mhz Uncore gives you less performance then 1800Mhz Ram / 3600Mhz Uncore but needs extreme voltages to get stable] -The BLCK on many CPUs often have "blindspots". [example of an 920 D0 ...133-210 stable/211-218 bootable/219-233bootloop/234-238bootable
Thanks a lot for this info, I'm just torturing a i-920 D0 (including leaping) only to experiment before the x5675 I ordered for 27€ arrives. It seems that I will surely destroy the P6T Deluxe V2 before destroy the CPU itself! Weird, not proper Thermal Protection (it has, sort off, but not a proper one), and still this puppy eats all I throw..
I´ve a question here. Cant get my 990x stable at like 4.4 Ghz. even with 1.4V in Bios. Have an Gigabyte G1 Assassin. CPU PLL is on 1.5V. Under this = super unstable. i can get 4.4 ghz working, but LinX will throw me an error after 30 Minutes. What are the max 24/7 Voltages i could throw on this thing without breaking it ? What else could i do, to get like 4.5 or more? Thanks :)
I actually diagnosed a PC where the cause of death was shorting out the hard drive due to rat urine from the nest inside. They were getting in and out through a missing expansion card cover.
damn lol thats sad to hear thats why i dont want to remove my power hungry gpu yet because i dont have a cover for the expansion card and cant buy a new gpu because of the prices :\
really wish they bring them back, only EVGA, if im not wrong, brought them but to a high-end type of board, miss the all-around heatsink with heatpipe mbs.
I'm pretty sure the system performed as well as it did was because the I.O. Sheild increased the computers blast processing by 90%! (Loving the videos btw man!)
i run x58 with x5675 oced to 4.4 with just a simple gtx 1660 i play latest AAA games on high settings np at all. It kinda shows its age but it still holds on. I will probably skip ddr4...
@@Christopher_42 Yeah with a 1st gen (or 2nd?) core i7 920 and a 1060ti I could still play RDR2 on near max settings. I didn't check the framerate but it looks smooth enough to me. A 10 year old CPU is still probably better than whatever's in the PS4 or something. Single-thread performance hasn't gone up *that* much in the last decade, and software has been pretty slow to catch up with hardware. These 16 core beasts that are coming out now are really only worth it if you're doing multimedia stuff.
Hell yea Bryan awesome video! I'm running a very similar setup and I've loved every minute of it since it was released. Specs: X5650 running at 4.4Ghz daily with a quad fan H100i EVGA X58 Classified 3 (the board is a godsend, has USB 3.0, SATA3 and still under EVGA's LIFETIME warranty!) EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 (most recent addition) 16GB Dominator Platinum RAM at 2Ghz (had 4GBx3 Dominator GT that failed and Corsair sent me a 4x4 kit which I made work, still runs triple channel and got 4 extra gig) 480GB Kingston HyperX Predator PCIe boot drive pulling 1300/900 read/write speeds 2 500GB Samsung 850 EVO's and a 1TB WD drive HP Omen X35 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor I recently went ultrawide which is why I bought the 1080 Ti and figured it's worth a try to see if the old 5650 can keep the 1080 Ti fed and because of the higher res it's been doing pretty damn good. Most games are pegged at 99% usage so I'ma hold out a little longer before I move to a completely new platform. Love the X58 though that chip is a hidden gem not everyone knows about. I think the best way to find an X58 board is getting an "old" gaming PC that's equipped with one with a 920. I picked up a fully functional PC for my little bro for $200 with a Asus P6T in it. I tore it down, threw in a SSD, 12GB 1600 RAM, a GTX 1060 6GB and OC'ed to 4.2. Badass budget gaming PC! I even have an extra 5650 once I see which one OC's better I'll slap one in there for him. Loving that X58 Lyfe!
Yeah that's the way to go for sure, most the bargains with x58 boards are from old gaming pcs where people have no clue what's lying inside :p. P6T V1 or v2?
I think it's the early one. I know it's not the Deluxe but so far it's been working great and also will support the Xeon's although not "officially". If it's not too late can you show what your load voltages are (Vcore/VTT) in the next vid or tell me if you know since you're running LLC on? I can't get mine stable with EVGA Vdroop enabled no matter what I've tried. On my board it screws with the voltages too much and setting for example 1.4 Vcore in the BIOS nets me about 1.32 on full load which isn't enough for 4.4Ghz. With Vdroop off I'm running 1.36 Vcore and 1.35 VTT under load. I see you're running a low QPI voltage setting so I'm curious what it is under load. I heard not to go over 1.35 on the Xeon's or you can damage the memory controller.
I recently got a x5650, but I have difficulty going past 4 ghz, the problem is the ram giving boot errors. Any tips on the high overclock besides setting the ram timings from the spec sheet? What are your settings?
@Duckie_Plays I believe 4,2 ghz and 1,34V now. I turned down the ram to 1250 MHz instead of the 1650 (can't go in between). Havent had any random crashes since. Ram settings are very picky and with my mobo I can't choose many options in between sadly.
@@cOMM4ND3R Just use silver screws than the painted screws that comes with the case and use it on the motherboard, gpu and psu and I don't the I/O shield in my case no problems since he talked about the express gate booting issue I have that disabled and it working just fine for me with crucial mx100 256gb ssd. Unless he using an older bios not too sure to be honest
Really Bryan? Really??? Here I thought I was being original... I'm up at 2:30am benchmarking an x5690 against a Ryzen 2400G to see if its relevant in 2018. AND I PUT IT IN A BARONKASE LIQUID!!!!!! Great video as always man. Great minds think alike it would seem. Cheers!
I have sabretooth x58 with w3690 xeon oc to 4.1ghz with msi gtx 1080 and 24 gig ram and 120gig ssd...all new games on ultra in 1080p resolution, still very nice hardware
I have a friend using an old 960 i7 with an Asus x58 board and doesn't really have the money to upgrade. Was thinking of buying him a 5675 and walking him through ocing it, this vid has given me food for thought. Well done Sir!
Still rocking an x58/xeon setup @4.4ghz myself for my streaming rig which is does an awesome job at. So I agree totally viable in 2018! Boards are the culprit so expensive when buying used. (As u said) Keep up the great content! Love it!
x58 platform is phenomenon!! Looking forward to see this beast fight against new cpus in latest game! This video brought back many memories. I've been overclocked my i7 990x to 5.2Ghz with Asus R3E mb. It really need tons of time to look for the stable setting.
Brian you bloody ripper, this tech video is why I subscribed. I'm still rocking my X58 UD3R, 12gb DDR3 triple channel memory. Originally a i7950 at 4.2hgz and last two years X5670 at 4.4ghz 200bclk and 1.387 for about 9 years strong. Go X58!
I am an X58 addict... its all I use because it's so good with the X5650 + My main rig is an Asus P6T Delux V2 with an X5650, AIO Water cooler, 2 X GTX 950's in SLI Overclocked to 1750mghz... The X5650 I got was a brand new one I found on Amazon for $85, right now it has a simple x20 multiplier OC sitting at 4.1 Mghz. idle temps on all cores 25 - 27c and when gaming the highest they get is 74c. Fortnight on High pre sets and shadows turned down a little bit average 68 FPS, League of Legends 120 FPS, PUBG Medium settings 1080p 65 FPS.. I really want to get 2 GTX 980's or if the Lord willing somehow be able to afford a GTX 1070ti.. I am running currently on Windows 7 because I am having issues running windows 10 for some reason and with driver comparability, I don't know what to do to fix it =/
Sounds like a good rig! Check out the GTX970, I'm running one with an FX-8370 @ 4.5GHz and it has no issues at all, generally about 90fps at medium/1080 in PUBG.
You’d be happier with a single more powerful card I can assure you sli has been wonky after the 700 series cards imo. Not that much support for a lot of games.
I get that a lot with the OC on the 950's ... I have no clue why they are doing so well? They are the GTX 950 EVGA SSC versions and I used MSI Afterburner to get that. Booting up MSI AB to check.... Okay, so it's hard to tell but the Core Clock is set at a +440 with Zero OC on the Memory. On the dial it has a white arrow for base clock and a red arrow for boost. The white arrow is just in front of the 1750 marker and the red boost marker is dead in between 1750 and 2000 mhgz. I really wish the layout was more clear and showed the exact numbers unless I don't know how to see it... that is a big possibility. But if we are going off the base it looks like the white arrow is sitting at what I would call 1700? So I did over judge it a little
Would I really be better off ditching the 2 950's SLI ? I've put in a lot of reading on the 1050ti and I feel like its not an upgrade on what I have so would I be looking at a 1060? In my area on offer up I can get an EVGA GTX 980 SSC for $250 right now. Would that single 980 be a lot better than the SLI'd 950's ? When I originally bought and built that computer in October of 2008, It was an I7 920, 3gbs of Ram, 2 X GTX 250's in SLI all running on a 700 watt semi modular power supply and I paid $1255.80 from Alienware before the Dell buy out built in the Area 51 Case in 2008. All I've done in 10 years is put 32gb of Ram in, replaced the i7 920 for the X5650 Xeon, replaced the 2 GTX 250's with the GTX 950's... so I've only put another $360 total into the computer to upgrade over a 10 year period.... oh I did' have the HDD that came with it go down on me it was a 750gb barracuda. I now have a 1TB WD Black Storage and a 256gb Intel SSD that I got new on a sale for $25
Watching this video puts a smile on my face. Im using the same motherboard with i7 990x. I remember I was having the same issue when I was setting it up when I got it 10 years ago. But until now it is Rock Solid and eats everything I throw at it, never exceeds 40% CPU utilization. Nice video. Thanks !
If I may make a request , please start including the single core cinebench scores. Really helps in comparing the IPC on these old CPUs with the latest ones. Thanks!
I have the exact same mobo with a x5670 @ 4.7ghz single core cinebench score is 142 so not amazing but still decent for it's age I imagine his score is around 135 with his slightly lower clocks.
When it's overclocked it's around the same ipc yeah, the X56xx is a great upgrade path for anyone who already owns an x58 board and is looking to upgrade their old i7 920 for example or if you can find super cheap deals like bryan does but personally I wouldn't recommend dropping the £100-£150 asking prices on an old x58 board. These days there's too many cheap new options which don't have missing instruction sets (Avx, Avx2) and come with sata3 and usb3 and many other newer chipset features already onboard and are also much less power hungry. That said i'm still very happy with mine I also have a second rig with a i7 6700k and i can't really tell the difference between them unless i'm running benchmarks or staring at an fps counter.
This video made me dig out the x58 sabertooth out of the basement and have some fun. I got a x5675 off ebay for $45, put it in the machine and was blown away. Using your tips 4.5 GHz was no problem. I liked this build because the x5675 has a tdp of 95w compared to the i7 950 that was in there that has a tdp of 130w, I was hoping it would run cooler with less power and it does. Best I could manage on the i7 950 was 4.0 GHz and that was almost more than the 8yr old Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus could deal with. The x5675 with the same cooler at 4.5 GHz runs at 73C tops, much better than the low to mid 90s C the 950 ran \o/ . Thank you so much for this video, subbed and in the process of watching all your vids new and old.
I basically started out with most of the settings Brian mentions in the video above and then I'm going to tweak a bit more as I go along. I'm not convinced I have the ram 100% stable as I have had 1 or 2 crashes of my 3d rendering program but windows itself has not crashed. I have barely even had any time to mess around with it myself except for a day or two but so far its been great. I'm running the 1402 Bios with 18 gigs of 1600 MHz Gskill ram at 1804 MHz @ 9-9-9-24, a Sandisk SSD and a 1TB WD Black on WIN 10 powered by a Corsair 850TX. Except for the SSD and vid card its all 8 yr old hardware that was in the system.
Also have a X5675 with an Asus X58 board and i love it. In fact i've been trying to upgrade to a modern CPU but i feel guilty and it's hard to go apart from it damn! Been rocking at 4,5ghz @ 1,4v with a corsair H110iGT and have a realy oddly fast system. Been playing games with a RX580 and most get 100% GPU utilization meaning the CPU can definately keep up with it. Not sure about a 1080/1080ti but i'm realy curious to see your next video on this series! thanks.
1.4 volts for 4.5GHz seems kinda high. I'm at 1.37v for 4.4 by keeping the base clock at 200 and scaling up and down with the multiplier. Nice and even frequencies while remaining stable with good performance with the uncore and allow me to keep qpi voltage low. I've tried 4.5 and found to not have any perfomance gain from 4.4 personally, and btw I'm also using an X5675 but with 24GB 1600 RAM in triple channel
Tech Yes City great Video as always. I have never had a chance to OC a x58 board well not my own anyway. The one I got to play with was a customers and it was a ASUS x58 and the CPU I think if memory serves right was a i7 930 and 12GB DDR3 he wanted the system over clocked but was afraid to do it him self so myself & the customer spent a couple hours on the system. His cooler was a beasty air cooler and I think we were hitting in the 4Ghz range (4.4-4.5Ghz) I think it was a long time ago he was so grateful that after he paid the bil he slap a $100 bill into my hands and said money well spent I told him that was not required since I had a lot of fun doing it. He said please just take it and spend it on something computer related for myself. This guy has bought every gaming computer he has picked up from me since that day and we spend a few hours tweaking to get the most out of each new system. I am sure he has learnt enough over the years to do it himself but I think he enjoys it as much as I do. I am sure his wife and kids hate it every time he gets a new system mind you...lol
My daily driver is still an i7 960 overclocked to 3.8 GHz on this motherboard, that I built back in 2011. Still works fine today. Had plenty of dramas overclocking it but it's stable and still going strong for a computer that is 8 years old.
>Running it overnight to get the windows 10 updates You seriously need to get WSUS Offline software, it is free and will make your windows installs faster and easier considering how many machines your are building.
Good to know, currently the full lot 32bit & 64bit (7, 8.1, 10, Server 2008+R2, Server 2012, Server 2016 raw) + iso's compiled for each weights in @ a total of 58.21GB that's with all the patches, Defender + Essentials. However there had been a new update sent out by MS today AUS time, which might bump that total cap slightly up. The space it takes is nothing compare to the time you will save. :D
The offline package is basically mandatory at some point after release. It cuts down my Win 7 installations by about 2 hrs (which is basically just Windows looking for updates and downloading them)
Asus P6X58D-E was one of the best mid range mainboards for overclocking back in when X58 were "new", i could push my X5670 to 4.7Ghz at 1.45v watercooled. Great piece of hardware. Now im rocking Intel i9 7920x and im loving it, great overclocker aswell.
This video couldn't have come at a better time. Here I am about to order 4 Xeon E5-2690's and LGA 2011 motherboards and then I watch this an learn that I can get 8 X5675's and 4 Dual socket LGA 1366 motherboards whilst still saving money and actually gaining performance. You sir are my bank account's new best friend.
Wow, I have X58 build going on GA-X58-UD5, W3690, 24GB RAM, 2x GTX 770s 4GB, 2xMX300-525GB SSD, USB3 card, SATA3 raid card, AC1300 WiFi card, and it's gonna all water-cooled by a 360 & a240 for that Creme de La creme! (It's gonna be my htpc setup, my main rig is a Ryzen 1700X with dual 1070s).
if you want to install windows on ssd, make sure not to plug any additional hdd on the system cuz windows will install the mbr in the hdd which is annoying
Just make sure the HDD/SSD you want the booting partition is first in the HDD order in the BIOS, never have to unplug all of HDD again. Just boot with 1 HDD, take note of the name/numbers and you're good. I have 6 HDD + RAID setups, I talk by experience
if you install it like that and later takes out the other dardriver you can use a usb instalation media and repair it it worked for me if i remember correctly
I just bought an SSD to install Windows 10. The hdd I had with the Windows 10 partition got corrupted... Is it ok for me to install Windows 10 on the SSD first, then afterwards plug in the hdd and format that hdd?
I'm currently using an X58 platform with a 4.5 GHz X5675 overclock at 1.356v, cooled by a Vetroo U6. It boasts 24GB of Kingston HyperX FURY 1866 CL10 DRAM, running at 1960 MHz with 9-10-9-27-CR1 timings and a UCLK of 3920 MHz. Additionally, the system includes a 1TB NVME M.2 drive, an ASUS STRIX RTX 2070 Super, and operates on Windows 11 24H2 Home edition.
LA I kind of ripped the poor guy off I think XD. 150€ for a Asus p6t se, 16gb of really good ram, a x5675 and a decent air-cooler. I got it to 4.2ghz and it's running great, just need a good GPU now :/
Og Og Get a gtx980 since GPU prices still suck :(. Besides, an overclocked 980 will still match a 1070 stock, just with more heat and power consumption :/
I'm running an EVGA X58 SLI motherboard with an i7 980X and 12GB of Corsair Dominator 2000MHz modules. Threw in a 980Ti and everything is on water running cool and quiet as all hell. Got that extreme edition for 26 bucks LOL! Can't beat that!!! X58 is the BEST!
I built a complete bargain breaker with this platform! Picked up a few sweet deals, like an EVGA x58 FTW3 w/ an i7 950 for $60, 8 GB DDR3 for $10, an HD7870 for $28, and I found a dingy old case, and a friend gave me a 750 w psu. I eventually swapped out the cpu for an x5650 for $28 and swapped the gpu for a 1050ti for $120, and put it all in a HAF 912. This thing is running beautifully, i have my x5650 @ 4.0 ghz at 1.31 v, but i can't seem to get past that. Its at 200 bclk and 20 multiplier, which is the highest with turbo off. with turbo on, even up to 1.4 v and messing with some of the other voltages, i just can't get it stable. I think i might pick up a x5675 or x5680 soon and mess around with that because they're just so cheap!
You are the original X-Man Brian.... Show em how its Done.. !!!!! Ive been following your channel for a bit and really got into the X58 platforms just because of your videos about them. For the past 2 years I have had 8 Xeon systems that I have built and sold with GTX 780's or similar as budget gamer system alternatives. I keep 2 Asus P6T Deluxe and Xeon 5670/5650 systems for myself cause I like them so much. I have a Threadripper 1950X, Ryzen 1700X, 4790K, 2600K, 2700K, 8700K, Etc, but still love the older tech of these boards and like overclocking Xeons and tinkering with X58's over the newer stuff. Hopefully the X79 platforms and Xeons will come down in price also so I could do the same soon....I.. I Cant wait to see some numbers on the X5675. Thanks Brian. You are my #1 RUclips Channel...
Sorry for your loss. My MSI X58 Pro-E burnt out its VRM recently, luckily I won a gamble on an 42€ "as is" eBay listing of one of the same model with stated dead memory channels. However nothing apart from dirty and slightly bent cpu pins was really bad with this board. The i7 920 was just going bad. My X5675 is now back up and running @4.7 GHz ~1.46V with the 6x 4GB Kingston DDR3 1333 MHz @~1200 MHz (204 MHz *6) I could not overclock yet, maybe revisiting this topic sometime...
I love how in-depth you are showing everyone the BIOS configurations you use. I know a lot of people are afraid to mess up their hardware by tweaking stuff and especially overclocking the CPU, RAM, PCI-E settings, etc. I'm a long time follower and discovered you when you were in Japan teaching students. Maybe you can do some day tripping stuff of Australia. Maybe some local festivals or something. I know your main focus is technology but I'm sure there are plenty of your fans who would like seeing you do some type of adventure maybe part hunting in local stores like you did in Japan. Keep up the amazing work, I know one day you'll probably have like over 500K subscribers at least.
How about 2 x5675's on a legendary EVGA SR-2 CLASSIFIED with 96gb DDR3 BOTH running @ 4.5 GHZ EACH!!! Makes short work of an 8700k AND 1920x!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
got an entire setup for 300 Canadian with a x58 Sabretooth, and a i7 950. Juet ordered a x5680 because of this video for 50 bucks from AliExpress. Super excited.
My x5670 does 4.2ghz at 1.3v. That's with a 200blck on Asus p6t deluxe. Thing is my cpu will not do a higher frequency at all even with massive volts. Also I have 12gb of ddr3 ram with 6x2gb sticks. If I run the speed higher than 1000mhz all the ram doesn't show, however compensated with really tight timings. The one thing I'm confused with is how cool your cpu is, mine will idle at 30 degrees c but run at about 60-65 gaming. That's with a 240l aio too.
Just finished putting together a X5650 alongside a ROG MARS GTX760X2 in an Asus X58 Sabertooth motherboard. You've really inspired me with these videos to do this, and is now in fact replacing my main build - which will hopefully make up for some of the money spent! Thanks man!
That´s because these are sixcore CPU´s. And CineBench likes threads more than anything else. So you can do more points with an old overclocked sixcore. A friend of mine is running a Xeon X5660 at 4,5 ghz. This thing handles everything you throw at it. I like these old sixcores. Very nice platform, too.
I don't think there's much perfomance benefit when going over 4.4 Ghz on these CPUs, at least from what I can tell from personal experience. However they are really good and possibly the best platform Intel has ever developed. It's a shame they lack AVX though
I bought a used p6t Deluxe v2, i7-920, OCZ 6gb triple for $100 a while back. Just order a x5675, CM 212 Evo and G.Skill Ripjaws 12gb 1600mhz triple. Haven't built it yet, my A8N-SLI Premium AMD 4800+, LSI 9211-4i, GTX 7800, Antec P180 is still running strong, but want to rebuild rig to utilize a GTX 1070. I'm excited too, bookmarking all these videos so I can document all these settings...
The 3930k is virtually identical to a new Ryzen 1600 oc, according to UserBenchmark results. So little progress in the past 6-8 years in the CPU market compared to the early 2000s.
Ok so im so excited I HAD to comment here. I was so inspired by this video I went searching for a bargain X58 board and got a deal on an Intel DX58SO2 which seems great and has new mod cons like USB3 etc BUT very little info can be found and it was not clear if it would support the X5675. Anyway, my X5675 arrived this morning and can confirm it works well! Im actually recording my experience to try and kick off my own little channel but wanted to say a huge thank you :) Wish me luck folks!
This is what I'm running now. Ive had a i7 950 in 2010 and upgraded it to a 6 core X5675 a few months ago, and OC'ed it pretty high to 4.2ghz. Not 4.5 but I never had the best luck on my kit of memory.
+Potato Gaming How? That is basically a forth of its value and even that might be an understatement. Might even be multi unlocked for some OEM boards and less aggressive QPI overclocking. Do you know if it is?
hi..i love x58..but would you explain why after overclocking it's still worse than some ryzen in benchmarks even their frequencies are similar with the same number of 6 cores, e.g. 4.1ghz...
2021 and I think it's still worth it to have Recently built an x58 rig as a secondary. Overclocking was so much fun and seeing a 30% increase in performance made my jaw hit the floor. It was paired with a 980 ti and 24 gb of ram clocked at 1800 mhz and getting the x5675 to 4.2 ghz took some time (6 hours with stress testing) but was worth it. After seeing this video for like the 20th time I think I'll have to go back and see if I can get it to 4.4 ghz lol
Funny you made this video, I recently refreshed my x58 PC from 2009 with new generation 2nd hand parts and brand new parts. i7-920 to Xeon W3680 ($100) GTX 275 to GTX 960 ($100) WD Velociraptor 10k HDD to Samsung Evo 850 SSD ($120) W3680 has unlocked multiplier so it OCs to 4GHZ + very easily I'm still using a corsair H50 AiO i think this need to be changed :) This x58 9year old PC is still very good in this age with a refresh
I love x58, I've owned 2 920s that I took to 4.0ghz, a 960 that went to 4.2ghz, and an x5670 that went to 4.4ghz. Such incredible overclockers. If the boards could just come down in price they'd never die.
I have the exact same board, it works great with the 920, but won't post when I put the x5675, power comes on and everything lights up, just nothing on the screen. Did you have any kind of issue like that?
I picked an asus x58 board, i7 920, 6gbs of ram and a noctua cooler for $40 ;) Going to use those parts and a gtx 960 for my daughters Fortnite rig. Love your videos man.
I have a 4930k, custom water-cooled and running 4.7Ghz @ 1.41V for the past 5 years. Running numerous benchmarks, it comes in just under the Ryzen 1800X stock for multi threaded and is faster by a good margin in single thread. Not to mention the older quad and triple channel memory boards keep pace with the dual channel ddr4 boards at 3000mhz or greater. Obviously clock for clock the 4930k is starting to show a bit of age, but with a good overclock it holds its own and I'm still surprised at how slow technology as moved in raw CPU performance. The trade off is, my old CPU uses 180W to achieve what a 90W processor does today. Great video!
Just here to leave a message. I still own a decade old Core i7 920 rig. Yes, OC'd @ 4GHz from base 2.66 (2.8) G mark. Running a beast of a GTX 1080 Ti by AORUS for half a year @ 1440p. Both under water.
Keep up the good work bro! I just love how you are down to earth; testing old hardware that is still relevant (by the way I still have my X58 platform and I'm happy with it). Unlike some other testers that have been blinded by the free stuff that is sent to them, and start calling hardware from like 3 or 4 years ago "VERY OLD". Anyway, I love your channel; I love your reviews; good work brother!!!
Working on my 3rd and 4th x58 systems, first was a x5660 that went to 4.41 stable on air, than 3 x5670s in a row going to 4.4-4.5ghz all stable. So much value for the money when you can find the boards at a decent price.
I overclocked the core i7 930 to 4.3 Ghz on air. I had to back it down to 4 Ghz because I soon found that it wasn't stable. Now, I'm getting a xeon x5690 so that my games don't bottleneck anymore and I plan on overclocking that to 4.5Ghz as well.
I actually just built an X5675 system a few months ago that I use as my main computer. It's absolutely worth it. CPU was $24 USD. 24gb of ram (triple channel) I think was like $50. Motherboard was unfortunately $100, but it still saved me money over a ryzen system. That stuff coupled with a GTX 1660 TI was getting me 80-120fps @1080p in the Modern Warfare beta. I looked up other people's FPS on RUclips and with their custom settings they were getting the same fps on much newer systems, and even like 10fps lower on ryzen systems. Also keep in mind this is at stock speeds (or less) with my X5675. I'm not sure if I've got a bios issue or what, but I just can't get my bios menu to even function when I click on the frequency menu, and then in HWMonitor it reports my highest frequencies achieved as 3.1ghz. Spectre and Meltdown patches are disabled. So yeah, if it is keeping up that well with the latest and greatest in a game I was really playing, I'd say it's absolutely worth it if you can get it at a good price. Hell, with my experience I'd go as far as to say pick up an X5650 for $9 on eBay right now and you'll be surprised out how well it does relative to the price you paid.
Its so amazing you still like x58, cuz its what i am still using on my gaming. I see no reason why i should change it. I run 980x at 4500mhz 2000 ddr3 24 gigs of ram. and 2 1070's in sli and it runs flawlesly . i have a solid install of 10 i had since win 7 days, and so much stuff installed, i felt not changing it and i don't need usb3 or hot wire or whatever. got a HTPC with haswell so no biggie. but their is no bottlenecks at all wow on an EVGA x58.
6:00 I've encountered this before. What I do is disconnect all my other drives when installing windows and plug them back in afterwards. That way I know the bootloader is on the C drive so it avoids problems if you need to change drives around etc.
Still in use with an i7-980X Extreme Edition - 3,33 GHz Six Core CPU. - Same ASUS X58 Motherboard - I7 980x - 24GB of RAM (Kingston DDR3 1333) Bought it from "eBay-Kleinanzeigen" in Germany (like gumtree.com) a year ago for only 160,00 EUR (197,99 $) It is still a very good platform! Thank you for all your good videos!
I built my first rig two years ago. And it was 15 years since I built a gaming rig. And it was a x58 with a x5670 and it was all because of your videos that I picked these parts. The motherboard was a asus p6t but for some reason it wouldnt go past 4.2ghz. I even tried it with a x5687 and the same thing. 4.2ghz. I loved that machine but It started having cold boot issues. So I sold it and got a ryzen 1600. I want another one just to play around with.
I've done "professional" x58 overclocking back in 2010/2011. Here some tips you probably don't know:
-Westmere actually likes reducing PLL Voltage..most CPUs liked around 1.3-1.5V. You can reduce your Vcore up to 10%.
-Running over 1.65V on the memory is no problem but NEVER exede a delta of 0.45V between your QPI voltage (memory controller) and your VDimm [example: 1.4V QPI 1.85V Ram "safe" / 1.2V QPI 1.7V Ram "unsafe"] (keep in mind to look up for what voltages the ICs on your memory can handle...modern 1.35V ICs will most likely die at 1.85V)
-Unlike Bloomfield, Westmere/Gulftown allows you to reduce the Ram/Uncore Ratio to 1:1.5 . Don't do it. You loose so much performance. 1:2+ is always perfect on X58. [example: 2200Mhz Ram / 3300Mhz Uncore gives you less performance then 1800Mhz Ram / 3600Mhz Uncore but needs extreme voltages to get stable]
-The BLCK on many CPUs often have "blindspots". [example of an 920 D0 ...133-210 stable/211-218 bootable/219-233bootloop/234-238bootable
SouthPlanObservation I have 1333Mhz Rams so 2666Mhz would be best for Uncore?
great info
Thanks a lot for this info, I'm just torturing a i-920 D0 (including leaping) only to experiment before the x5675 I ordered for 27€ arrives. It seems that I will surely destroy the P6T Deluxe V2 before destroy the CPU itself! Weird, not proper Thermal Protection (it has, sort off, but not a proper one), and still this puppy eats all I throw..
I´ve a question here. Cant get my 990x stable at like 4.4 Ghz. even with 1.4V in Bios. Have an Gigabyte G1 Assassin. CPU PLL is on 1.5V. Under this = super unstable. i can get 4.4 ghz working, but LinX will throw me an error after 30 Minutes. What are the max 24/7 Voltages i could throw on this thing without breaking it ? What else could i do, to get like 4.5 or more?
Thanks :)
5th gen in 2010?
The IO shield really sets the build off!
That IO shield really brings the room together.
Lol does anyone use IO shields anymore these days? I personally don’t in my personal rig it just sits in the stupid box Lol
+Jeremy R i do my city is infested with rats and i dont want any of those fuckers getting on my rig so i make sure my pc dont have big holes
I actually diagnosed a PC where the cause of death was shorting out the hard drive due to rat urine from the nest inside. They were getting in and out through a missing expansion card cover.
damn lol thats sad to hear thats why i dont want to remove my power hungry gpu yet because i dont have a cover for the expansion card and cant buy a new gpu because of the prices :\
Installed an i/o shield, have to say my fps did indeed boost by 50%.
Vectr what was it like before?
Before the PC was switched off :D
lol - needs RGB
i have a build with a 1080ti and one with an rx 570 the 1080ti has io sheild but the rx 570 build dosent so i can confirm with 50%+ fps
@@TopHatProductions115 new product pitch: modular RGB i/o shield line?
Back when heatsinks were heatsinks.
really wish they bring them back, only EVGA, if im not wrong, brought them but to a high-end type of board, miss the all-around heatsink with heatpipe mbs.
kurok1tenshi .... yes i think they look much better than new Motherboard's heatsinks
tim serious they do not look better, the point is, they work better ...
Mr.Magnificent .... i like the looks of it , it's more industrial new Motherboards look like toys these days and yes aboviously they will work better
tim serious Nah, these blue finns look very basic, and that kinda wave on top is weired, its not industrial look enough to be timeless
I'm pretty sure the system performed as well as it did was because the I.O. Sheild increased the computers blast processing by 90%! (Loving the videos btw man!)
Don't forget the RGB!
X58 is still very worth it in my opinion. The only kicker would be to buy the new GTX 1080.
Yes 2 years later and your still right
is $80 us good for a ASUS Motherboard P6X58D-E REV 1.01G
i run x58 with x5675 oced to 4.4 with just a simple gtx 1660 i play latest AAA games on high settings np at all. It kinda shows its age but it still holds on. I will probably skip ddr4...
@@Christopher_42 Yeah with a 1st gen (or 2nd?) core i7 920 and a 1060ti I could still play RDR2 on near max settings. I didn't check the framerate but it looks smooth enough to me. A 10 year old CPU is still probably better than whatever's in the PS4 or something. Single-thread performance hasn't gone up *that* much in the last decade, and software has been pretty slow to catch up with hardware. These 16 core beasts that are coming out now are really only worth it if you're doing multimedia stuff.
@@frankcooke1692 1060ti ??? U on drugs
Hell yea Bryan awesome video! I'm running a very similar setup and I've loved every minute of it since it was released.
Specs:
X5650 running at 4.4Ghz daily with a quad fan H100i
EVGA X58 Classified 3 (the board is a godsend, has USB 3.0, SATA3 and still under EVGA's LIFETIME warranty!)
EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 (most recent addition)
16GB Dominator Platinum RAM at 2Ghz (had 4GBx3 Dominator GT that failed and Corsair sent me a 4x4 kit which I made work, still runs triple channel and got 4 extra gig)
480GB Kingston HyperX Predator PCIe boot drive pulling 1300/900 read/write speeds
2 500GB Samsung 850 EVO's and a 1TB WD drive
HP Omen X35 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor
I recently went ultrawide which is why I bought the 1080 Ti and figured it's worth a try to see if the old 5650 can keep the 1080 Ti fed and because of the higher res it's been doing pretty damn good. Most games are pegged at 99% usage so I'ma hold out a little longer before I move to a completely new platform. Love the X58 though that chip is a hidden gem not everyone knows about. I think the best way to find an X58 board is getting an "old" gaming PC that's equipped with one with a 920. I picked up a fully functional PC for my little bro for $200 with a Asus P6T in it. I tore it down, threw in a SSD, 12GB 1600 RAM, a GTX 1060 6GB and OC'ed to 4.2. Badass budget gaming PC! I even have an extra 5650 once I see which one OC's better I'll slap one in there for him. Loving that X58 Lyfe!
Yeah that's the way to go for sure, most the bargains with x58 boards are from old gaming pcs where people have no clue what's lying inside :p. P6T V1 or v2?
I think it's the early one. I know it's not the Deluxe but so far it's been working great and also will support the Xeon's although not "officially".
If it's not too late can you show what your load voltages are (Vcore/VTT) in the next vid or tell me if you know since you're running LLC on?
I can't get mine stable with EVGA Vdroop enabled no matter what I've tried. On my board it screws with the voltages too much and setting for example 1.4 Vcore in the BIOS nets me about 1.32 on full load which isn't enough for 4.4Ghz. With Vdroop off I'm running 1.36 Vcore and 1.35 VTT under load. I see you're running a low QPI voltage setting so I'm curious what it is under load. I heard not to go over 1.35 on the Xeon's or you can damage the memory controller.
Nice! Almost same setup as you but with Asus px58de MB.
I recently got a x5650, but I have difficulty going past 4 ghz, the problem is the ram giving boot errors.
Any tips on the high overclock besides setting the ram timings from the spec sheet? What are your settings?
@Duckie_Plays I believe 4,2 ghz and 1,34V now. I turned down the ram to 1250 MHz instead of the 1650 (can't go in between). Havent had any random crashes since. Ram settings are very picky and with my mobo I can't choose many options in between sadly.
If you had boot issues with the case, that means there was grounding issues
Karine Mallet he said the issue was a bios setting along with the ssd he used. It was confusing when he said it tho.
I had that happen to me
Must have been that pesky IO shield! XD
@@cOMM4ND3R Just use silver screws than the painted screws that comes with the case and use it on the motherboard, gpu and psu and I don't the I/O shield in my case no problems since he talked about the express gate booting issue I have that disabled and it working just fine for me with crucial mx100 256gb ssd. Unless he using an older bios not too sure to be honest
Really Bryan? Really??? Here I thought I was being original... I'm up at 2:30am benchmarking an x5690 against a Ryzen 2400G to see if its relevant in 2018.
AND I PUT IT IN A BARONKASE LIQUID!!!!!!
Great video as always man. Great minds think alike it would seem. Cheers!
Desperate fucker come up with original content and stop buying chinese crap no one should buy
Always love me some good ol' xeons, baronkase is a bit small for x58 though I think.
BigMan7o0 2 replies just a troll trying to get people to react
Looking forward to seeing that video.
who r u again?
Great video. I got my Dell T1600 with a Xeon E3-1245 after watching your videos. This has been my daily driver since 2019.
@techyescity been waiting for this vdo (x58 oc tutorial)for the last 8 months. Thank you Bryan from deep of every x58 users heart.
I am going to deliver on all the broken promises, dont' worry!
Tech YES City man next time you are in any melbourne show i am all in to meet you.
Its extremely rare to see a motherboard that is over ten years old and is still a quality board like this X58 here in 2020?
It's unbelievable.
Even in 2023 this chipset dominates om the low budget market.
X58 is absolutely awesome! I am still using my i7-980x OC @4.4ghz.
Hello.... Please can you tell me if I can use 8gb DIMMs with these motherboards? Please reply!
Diganta Majumder
@@sandornagy1565, In some forums I recently found that some people are using 48gb of RAM in X58. So, with Xeon it can run 8gb sticks surely.
Diganta Majumder
@@sandornagy1565 x58 works with 8GB modules, source : I've used 48gb In 8gbx6
Is the i/o shield in sli?
Nope crossfire. The SLI shields cost 200 USD premium. ;)
I have a xeon x5650 on an Asus Sabertooth x58 with 12gb ram and a GTX 780, works perfectly fine and I don't think there is much need to upgrade
That can easily doal boot with XP for maximum overkill in old games.
I have sabretooth x58 with w3690 xeon oc to 4.1ghz with msi gtx 1080 and 24 gig ram and 120gig ssd...all new games on ultra in 1080p resolution, still very nice hardware
Karol Kostial nice
love my x5650 still a beast for editing on my p6x58d-e mobo. still running a gtx 670 😂
The cheapest ryzen 3 is better than that x5650... There is no point on buying one of those old Xeons anymore
I have a friend using an old 960 i7 with an Asus x58 board and doesn't really have the money to upgrade. Was thinking of buying him a 5675 and walking him through ocing it, this vid has given me food for thought. Well done Sir!
Just wanted to say, I saved an old x58 board with your brake clean method. I didn't believe it at first but the brake cleaner is some magical stuff.
Still rocking an x58/xeon setup @4.4ghz myself for my streaming rig which is does an awesome job at. So I agree totally viable in 2018! Boards are the culprit so expensive when buying used. (As u said) Keep up the great content! Love it!
x58 platform is phenomenon!!
Looking forward to see this beast fight against new cpus in latest game!
This video brought back many memories.
I've been overclocked my i7 990x to 5.2Ghz with Asus R3E mb.
It really need tons of time to look for the stable setting.
Did you know what your voltage was?
And if you used Hyper Threading?
Brian you bloody ripper, this tech video is why I subscribed. I'm still rocking my X58 UD3R, 12gb DDR3 triple channel memory. Originally a i7950 at 4.2hgz and last two years X5670 at 4.4ghz 200bclk and 1.387 for about 9 years strong.
Go X58!
I am an X58 addict... its all I use because it's so good with the X5650 + My main rig is an Asus P6T Delux V2 with an X5650, AIO Water cooler, 2 X GTX 950's in SLI Overclocked to 1750mghz... The X5650 I got was a brand new one I found on Amazon for $85, right now it has a simple x20 multiplier OC sitting at 4.1 Mghz. idle temps on all cores 25 - 27c and when gaming the highest they get is 74c. Fortnight on High pre sets and shadows turned down a little bit average 68 FPS, League of Legends 120 FPS, PUBG Medium settings 1080p 65 FPS.. I really want to get 2 GTX 980's or if the Lord willing somehow be able to afford a GTX 1070ti.. I am running currently on Windows 7 because I am having issues running windows 10 for some reason and with driver comparability, I don't know what to do to fix it =/
Sounds like a good rig! Check out the GTX970, I'm running one with an FX-8370 @ 4.5GHz and it has no issues at all, generally about 90fps at medium/1080 in PUBG.
You’d be happier with a single more powerful card I can assure you sli has been wonky after the 700 series cards imo. Not that much support for a lot of games.
GTX 950 to 1750mhz..... yeahhhh nooo , i'd belive 1500mhz but not 1750 : ))))
I get that a lot with the OC on the 950's ... I have no clue why they are doing so well? They are the GTX 950 EVGA SSC versions and I used MSI Afterburner to get that. Booting up MSI AB to check.... Okay, so it's hard to tell but the Core Clock is set at a +440 with Zero OC on the Memory. On the dial it has a white arrow for base clock and a red arrow for boost. The white arrow is just in front of the 1750 marker and the red boost marker is dead in between 1750 and 2000 mhgz. I really wish the layout was more clear and showed the exact numbers unless I don't know how to see it... that is a big possibility. But if we are going off the base it looks like the white arrow is sitting at what I would call 1700? So I did over judge it a little
Would I really be better off ditching the 2 950's SLI ? I've put in a lot of reading on the 1050ti and I feel like its not an upgrade on what I have so would I be looking at a 1060? In my area on offer up I can get an EVGA GTX 980 SSC for $250 right now. Would that single 980 be a lot better than the SLI'd 950's ? When I originally bought and built that computer in October of 2008, It was an I7 920, 3gbs of Ram, 2 X GTX 250's in SLI all running on a 700 watt semi modular power supply and I paid $1255.80 from Alienware before the Dell buy out built in the Area 51 Case in 2008. All I've done in 10 years is put 32gb of Ram in, replaced the i7 920 for the X5650 Xeon, replaced the 2 GTX 250's with the GTX 950's... so I've only put another $360 total into the computer to upgrade over a 10 year period.... oh I did' have the HDD that came with it go down on me it was a 750gb barracuda. I now have a 1TB WD Black Storage and a 256gb Intel SSD that I got new on a sale for $25
You are the epitome of my personal philosophy: "New is not always better!"
And the spare cash can be enjoyed on something fun.
When you install Windows, always plug in ONE hard drive.
Is that because the hard drives will compete with each other, and Windows won't install properly?
So you can have your (System, Active, Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition) all on one HDD/SSD.
Agree. I´ve had this issues quite a few times over all Windows versions I remember the last years.
Solid State Drive.
Watching this video puts a smile on my face. Im using the same motherboard with i7 990x. I remember I was having the same issue when I was setting it up when I got it 10 years ago. But until now it is Rock Solid and eats everything I throw at it, never exceeds 40% CPU utilization. Nice video. Thanks !
If I may make a request , please start including the single core cinebench scores.
Really helps in comparing the IPC on these old CPUs with the latest ones.
Thanks!
I have the exact same mobo with a x5670 @ 4.7ghz single core cinebench score is 142 so not amazing but still decent for it's age I imagine his score is around 135 with his slightly lower clocks.
Trino Dee Thanks mate.
So it is basically around a stock ryzen 1200( for the single core performance)?
When it's overclocked it's around the same ipc yeah, the X56xx is a great upgrade path for anyone who already owns an x58 board and is looking to upgrade their old i7 920 for example or if you can find super cheap deals like bryan does but personally I wouldn't recommend dropping the £100-£150 asking prices on an old x58 board.
These days there's too many cheap new options which don't have missing instruction sets (Avx, Avx2) and come with sata3 and usb3 and many other newer chipset features already onboard and are also much less power hungry.
That said i'm still very happy with mine I also have a second rig with a i7 6700k and i can't really tell the difference between them unless i'm running benchmarks or staring at an fps counter.
I searched, but let me ask, how does this build (Video compares itself to a Stock i7 3960X? Its hard to find something on that :/
This video made me dig out the x58 sabertooth out of the basement and have some fun. I got a x5675 off ebay for $45, put it in the machine and was blown away. Using your tips 4.5 GHz was no problem.
I liked this build because the x5675 has a tdp of 95w compared to the i7 950 that was in there that has a tdp of 130w, I was hoping it would run cooler with less power and it does. Best I could manage on the i7 950 was 4.0 GHz and that was almost more than the 8yr old Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus could deal with. The x5675 with the same cooler at 4.5 GHz runs at 73C tops, much better than the low to mid 90s C the 950 ran \o/ .
Thank you so much for this video, subbed and in the process of watching all your vids new and old.
Grem Five what are you over clock specs cause I just picked up a sabertooth for a spare build and I'm oc'ing that thing now.
I basically started out with most of the settings Brian mentions in the video above and then I'm going to tweak a bit more as I go along. I'm not convinced I have the ram 100% stable as I have had 1 or 2 crashes of my 3d rendering program but windows itself has not crashed.
I have barely even had any time to mess around with it myself except for a day or two but so far its been great. I'm running the 1402 Bios with 18 gigs of 1600 MHz Gskill ram at 1804 MHz @ 9-9-9-24, a Sandisk SSD and a 1TB WD Black on WIN 10 powered by a Corsair 850TX. Except for the SSD and vid card its all 8 yr old hardware that was in the system.
Wow amazing temps, I had my doubts but seems like the 212 evo or X will be fine for my future x5675 build
Also have a X5675 with an Asus X58 board and i love it. In fact i've been trying to upgrade to a modern CPU but i feel guilty and it's hard to go apart from it damn! Been rocking at 4,5ghz @ 1,4v with a corsair H110iGT and have a realy oddly fast system. Been playing games with a RX580 and most get 100% GPU utilization meaning the CPU can definately keep up with it. Not sure about a 1080/1080ti but i'm realy curious to see your next video on this series! thanks.
1.4 volts for 4.5GHz seems kinda high. I'm at 1.37v for 4.4 by keeping the base clock at 200 and scaling up and down with the multiplier. Nice and even frequencies while remaining stable with good performance with the uncore and allow me to keep qpi voltage low.
I've tried 4.5 and found to not have any perfomance gain from 4.4 personally, and btw I'm also using an X5675 but with 24GB 1600 RAM in triple channel
@@RyanBurnsRed 0w2edxzssasdeererrrrreeeee7ii89wko9ò0
Still rocking the i7 975 extreme from 2010. Videos like these give me a warm and fuzzy feeling. 😍
Tech Yes City great Video as always.
I have never had a chance to OC a x58 board well not my own anyway. The one I got to play with was a customers and it was a ASUS x58 and the CPU I think if memory serves right was a i7 930 and 12GB DDR3 he wanted the system over clocked but was afraid to do it him self so myself & the customer spent a couple hours on the system. His cooler was a beasty air cooler and I think we were hitting in the 4Ghz range (4.4-4.5Ghz) I think it was a long time ago he was so grateful that after he paid the bil he slap a $100 bill into my hands and said money well spent I told him that was not required since I had a lot of fun doing it. He said please just take it and spend it on something computer related for myself. This guy has bought every gaming computer he has picked up from me since that day and we spend a few hours tweaking to get the most out of each new system. I am sure he has learnt enough over the years to do it himself but I think he enjoys it as much as I do. I am sure his wife and kids hate it every time he gets a new system mind you...lol
My daily driver is still an i7 960 overclocked to 3.8 GHz on this motherboard, that I built back in 2011. Still works fine today. Had plenty of dramas overclocking it but it's stable and still going strong for a computer that is 8 years old.
Because of your recommendation some years ago, I got a Xeon and a Catleap Yamakazi 1440p monitor real low priced. Still using it.
Nice man, yeah that stuff is really good.
This is video I've been waiting for all along! Thanks.
>Running it overnight to get the windows 10 updates
You seriously need to get WSUS Offline software, it is free and will make your windows installs faster and easier considering how many machines your are building.
Yeah I recently getting on top of all this, thanks man.
Good to know, currently the full lot 32bit & 64bit (7, 8.1, 10, Server 2008+R2, Server 2012, Server 2016 raw) + iso's compiled for each weights in @ a total of 58.21GB that's with all the patches, Defender + Essentials.
However there had been a new update sent out by MS today AUS time, which might bump that total cap slightly up.
The space it takes is nothing compare to the time you will save. :D
I'll have to try this out. I hate win 10 updater.
The offline package is basically mandatory at some point after release.
It cuts down my Win 7 installations by about 2 hrs (which is basically just Windows looking for updates and downloading them)
WSUS Offline?
What’s that?
Asus P6X58D-E was one of the best mid range mainboards for overclocking back in when X58 were "new", i could push my X5670 to 4.7Ghz at 1.45v watercooled. Great piece of hardware. Now im rocking Intel i9 7920x and im loving it, great overclocker aswell.
X58 here, still going strong with a proper GPU. So... yes!
This video couldn't have come at a better time. Here I am about to order 4 Xeon E5-2690's and LGA 2011 motherboards and then I watch this an learn that I can get 8 X5675's and 4 Dual socket LGA 1366 motherboards whilst still saving money and actually gaining performance. You sir are my bank account's new best friend.
Wow, I have X58 build going on GA-X58-UD5, W3690, 24GB RAM, 2x GTX 770s 4GB, 2xMX300-525GB SSD, USB3 card, SATA3 raid card, AC1300 WiFi card, and it's gonna all water-cooled by a 360 & a240 for that Creme de La creme! (It's gonna be my htpc setup, my main rig is a Ryzen 1700X with dual 1070s).
You really have one of the best PC builder channels.
if you want to install windows on ssd, make sure not to plug any additional hdd on the system cuz windows will install the mbr in the hdd which is annoying
Just make sure the HDD/SSD you want the booting partition is first in the HDD order in the BIOS, never have to unplug all of HDD again. Just boot with 1 HDD, take note of the name/numbers and you're good. I have 6 HDD + RAID setups, I talk by experience
if you install it like that and later takes out the other dardriver you can use a usb instalation media and repair it
it worked for me if i remember correctly
xs3tsunax i wish i knew it before. Had to figire out after an hour of troubleshooting.
I just bought an SSD to install Windows 10.
The hdd I had with the Windows 10 partition got corrupted...
Is it ok for me to install Windows 10 on the SSD first, then afterwards plug in the hdd and format that hdd?
@@a.v.d.s.2216 If you're still waiting for an answer......
Yes
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG HE HAS THE I/O SHIELD!!!!
Tfw Brian tells you to go crazy and you actually go crazy.
Overclock instructions not clear, my boyfriend's foreskin is stuck in the i/o shield.
Gaming snack
I'm currently using an X58 platform with a 4.5 GHz X5675 overclock at 1.356v, cooled by a Vetroo U6. It boasts 24GB of Kingston HyperX FURY 1866 CL10 DRAM, running at 1960 MHz with 9-10-9-27-CR1 timings and a UCLK of 3920 MHz. Additionally, the system includes a 1TB NVME M.2 drive, an ASUS STRIX RTX 2070 Super, and operates on Windows 11 24H2 Home edition.
Ayyyy I just bought a x58 system, working like a champ!
Buy the best Xeon for it, it is real cheap even if by badluck it is 200$ it beat any i7 out there.
Specs?
LA I kind of ripped the poor guy off I think XD. 150€ for a Asus p6t se, 16gb of really good ram, a x5675 and a decent air-cooler. I got it to 4.2ghz and it's running great, just need a good GPU now :/
Og Og damn I am impressed, that's a bargain
Og Og Get a gtx980 since GPU prices still suck :(. Besides, an overclocked 980 will still match a 1070 stock, just with more heat and power consumption :/
Hell yeah brian keep dropping old skool technology videos proof old hardware still beast
X5675 is extreamly cheap on ebay and I really want to find a dual lga 1366 mobo to run 2 x5675.
You can totaly overclock on the SR2 , its the SR3 when it was disabled
You can get an Asus Z8NA-D6 for a pretty good price. I got mine from ALiExpress.
was that really necessary silent
AqwBroders I do have an EVGA Classifield SR2, interested?
Django Ryffel how much?
Just picked up the same motherboard and CPU on a deal. Your settings worked for me. Thanks!
I'm running an EVGA X58 SLI motherboard with an i7 980X and 12GB of Corsair Dominator 2000MHz modules. Threw in a 980Ti and everything is on water running cool and quiet as all hell. Got that extreme edition for 26 bucks LOL! Can't beat that!!! X58 is the BEST!
I built a complete bargain breaker with this platform! Picked up a few sweet deals, like an EVGA x58 FTW3 w/ an i7 950 for $60, 8 GB DDR3 for $10, an HD7870 for $28, and I found a dingy old case, and a friend gave me a 750 w psu. I eventually swapped out the cpu for an x5650 for $28 and swapped the gpu for a 1050ti for $120, and put it all in a HAF 912. This thing is running beautifully, i have my x5650 @ 4.0 ghz at 1.31 v, but i can't seem to get past that. Its at 200 bclk and 20 multiplier, which is the highest with turbo off. with turbo on, even up to 1.4 v and messing with some of the other voltages, i just can't get it stable. I think i might pick up a x5675 or x5680 soon and mess around with that because they're just so cheap!
I get CB1062 from my x5690. I reckon the sweet spot cpu is the x5670 as they are binned well and OC well past 4500
You are the original X-Man Brian.... Show em how its Done.. !!!!!
Ive been following your channel for a bit and really got into the X58 platforms just because of your videos about them. For the past 2 years I have had 8 Xeon systems that I have built and sold with GTX 780's or similar as budget gamer system alternatives. I keep 2 Asus P6T Deluxe and Xeon 5670/5650 systems for myself cause I like them so much. I have a Threadripper 1950X, Ryzen 1700X, 4790K, 2600K, 2700K, 8700K, Etc, but still love the older tech of these boards and like overclocking Xeons and tinkering with X58's over the newer stuff. Hopefully the X79 platforms and Xeons will come down in price also so I could do the same soon....I.. I Cant wait to see some numbers on the X5675. Thanks Brian. You are my #1 RUclips Channel...
Still can't believe that my Asus x58 rampage 2 gene died 😢
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rip gene :(
Sorry for your loss. My MSI X58 Pro-E burnt out its VRM recently, luckily I won a gamble on an 42€ "as is" eBay listing of one of the same model with stated dead memory channels. However nothing apart from dirty and slightly bent cpu pins was really bad with this board. The i7 920 was just going bad. My X5675 is now back up and running @4.7 GHz ~1.46V with the 6x 4GB Kingston DDR3 1333 MHz @~1200 MHz (204 MHz *6) I could not overclock yet, maybe revisiting this topic sometime...
I can sell you a asus p6t bargain. Lol
Shah Ahmed seriously?
I love how in-depth you are showing everyone the BIOS configurations you use. I know a lot of people are afraid to mess up their hardware by tweaking stuff and especially overclocking the CPU, RAM, PCI-E settings, etc. I'm a long time follower and discovered you when you were in Japan teaching students. Maybe you can do some day tripping stuff of Australia. Maybe some local festivals or something. I know your main focus is technology but I'm sure there are plenty of your fans who would like seeing you do some type of adventure maybe part hunting in local stores like you did in Japan. Keep up the amazing work, I know one day you'll probably have like over 500K subscribers at least.
How about 2 x5675's on a legendary EVGA SR-2 CLASSIFIED with 96gb DDR3 BOTH running @ 4.5 GHZ EACH!!! Makes short work of an 8700k AND 1920x!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David Johnson short work but jesus man the power bill
No!Double x5690s runing 4.7/4.8 GHZ EACH!
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Jesus Fan Noise ..
got an entire setup for 300 Canadian with a x58 Sabretooth, and a i7 950. Juet ordered a x5680 because of this video for 50 bucks from AliExpress. Super excited.
My x5670 does 4.2ghz at 1.3v. That's with a 200blck on Asus p6t deluxe. Thing is my cpu will not do a higher frequency at all even with massive volts. Also I have 12gb of ddr3 ram with 6x2gb sticks. If I run the speed higher than 1000mhz all the ram doesn't show, however compensated with really tight timings. The one thing I'm confused with is how cool your cpu is, mine will idle at 30 degrees c but run at about 60-65 gaming. That's with a 240l aio too.
Andrew Bedford same setup 191 blck 1.35v 75 degree stress test cpu on noctua d-12
Just finished putting together a X5650 alongside a ROG MARS GTX760X2 in an Asus X58 Sabertooth motherboard. You've really inspired me with these videos to do this, and is now in fact replacing my main build - which will hopefully make up for some of the money spent! Thanks man!
Can you do a guide on overclockong on the p7h55 board for the x3440? Pretty please. I can't seem to get it past 3.8ghz
nboejui I cant even overclock mine on that motherboard :/
Loved the video. Still running my first build, A x58 gigabyte ud7 board with a i7 950 cpu and 16gb of ram, it has never skipped a beat.
1000 on cinebench? Thats better than my 6700k at 4.7ghz :/
Ben Willock The 6700k is garbage
That´s because these are sixcore CPU´s. And CineBench likes threads more than anything else. So you can do more points with an old overclocked sixcore. A friend of mine is running a Xeon X5660 at 4,5 ghz. This thing handles everything you throw at it. I like these old sixcores. Very nice platform, too.
I don't think there's much perfomance benefit when going over 4.4 Ghz on these CPUs, at least from what I can tell from personal experience. However they are really good and possibly the best platform Intel has ever developed. It's a shame they lack AVX though
7600k at 4.9ghz only manages 730 on cinebench. Really he should have measured single thread scores too
Ooooh I never even thought about looking at the heatsinks on the mobo. That thermal paste is gonna be 13 years old by now. Thanks man
I managed to buy a i7 920 a decent mobo and 12gigs of ram for 110$$$....im proud
im proud of you
I bought a used p6t Deluxe v2, i7-920, OCZ 6gb triple for $100 a while back. Just order a x5675, CM 212 Evo and G.Skill Ripjaws 12gb 1600mhz triple. Haven't built it yet, my A8N-SLI Premium AMD 4800+, LSI 9211-4i, GTX 7800, Antec P180 is still running strong, but want to rebuild rig to utilize a GTX 1070. I'm excited too, bookmarking all these videos so I can document all these settings...
Performance of this 10 years old build is awesome, great video as always :) Cheers :)
damn 1k cinebench score that's about the same as my 3930k lol
The 3930k is virtually identical to a new Ryzen 1600 oc, according to UserBenchmark results. So little progress in the past 6-8 years in the CPU market compared to the early 2000s.
Are you running that 3930K stock?
I have been piecing my upgrade n have a msi x58 mobo can't wait to get this chip. I learned alot from ya thank Brian. 👍
Ha Ha i am still running a i7 950 Bloomfield chip that i bought 8 years ago. X58 is a killer platform that triple Chanel ram is the best.
Ok so im so excited I HAD to comment here. I was so inspired by this video I went searching for a bargain X58 board and got a deal on an Intel DX58SO2 which seems great and has new mod cons like USB3 etc BUT very little info can be found and it was not clear if it would support the X5675. Anyway, my X5675 arrived this morning and can confirm it works well! Im actually recording my experience to try and kick off my own little channel but wanted to say a huge thank you :) Wish me luck folks!
OMG he has an X58 IO-sheild, that like gonna give him 200-300 extra MHz on his CPU overclocks!!!
Installed my X58 Asus board with 48GB RAM today...and it works like a charm👍
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Just picked a R2E with a x5660 for 60e today, can't wait to build around and try this gem !
Since this comment gonna sink in other commentsİ loved her for 2 years and i can't say her 'i love you
This is what I'm running now. Ive had a i7 950 in 2010 and upgraded it to a 6 core X5675 a few months ago, and OC'ed it pretty high to 4.2ghz. Not 4.5 but I never had the best luck on my kit of memory.
Just got an i7 990x for 20$ at the local computer store last week !
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Holy crap !
+Potato Gaming How? That is basically a forth of its value and even that might be an understatement. Might even be multi unlocked for some OEM boards and less aggressive QPI overclocking. Do you know if it is?
lucky, paid 45$ for a i7-970X 3 years ago
That is still beast of a CPU
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Tech Yes City always re-uses the coolest CPU's I never knew existed for not alot of money. Awesome video as always!
4:27am in Canada here going to watch this awesome video before I finally go to bed.
I used to have that exact board!!! It was an absolute BEAST!!! Still appears it is for gaming for sure!!! Quick 700-1000$ gamestation easily done.
hi..i love x58..but would you explain why after overclocking it's still worse than some ryzen in benchmarks even their frequencies are similar with the same number of 6 cores, e.g. 4.1ghz...
2021 and I think it's still worth it to have
Recently built an x58 rig as a secondary. Overclocking was so much fun and seeing a 30% increase in performance made my jaw hit the floor.
It was paired with a 980 ti and 24 gb of ram clocked at 1800 mhz and getting the x5675 to 4.2 ghz took some time (6 hours with stress testing) but was worth it. After seeing this video for like the 20th time I think I'll have to go back and see if I can get it to 4.4 ghz lol
This was pretty badass, not gonna lie. Great video per usual!
Funny you made this video,
I recently refreshed my x58 PC from 2009 with new generation 2nd hand parts and brand new parts.
i7-920 to Xeon W3680 ($100)
GTX 275 to GTX 960 ($100)
WD Velociraptor 10k HDD to Samsung Evo 850 SSD ($120)
W3680 has unlocked multiplier so it OCs to 4GHZ + very easily
I'm still using a corsair H50 AiO i think this need to be changed :)
This x58 9year old PC is still very good in this age with a refresh
I love x58, I've owned 2 920s that I took to 4.0ghz, a 960 that went to 4.2ghz, and an x5670 that went to 4.4ghz. Such incredible overclockers. If the boards could just come down in price they'd never die.
I have the exact same board, it works great with the 920, but won't post when I put the x5675, power comes on and everything lights up, just nothing on the screen. Did you have any kind of issue like that?
@@sniffles8655 Probably needs a BIOS update to support the xeon.
@@Cbamptronious Thank you! Yeah that was it, I updated the Bios and tried again with the x5675 and it is working great now. Thank you!
This is insane,I have this exact setup,thank u so much for this video.
Triple channel ram isn't a topic I can find on utube
I picked an asus x58 board, i7 920, 6gbs of ram and a noctua cooler for $40 ;) Going to use those parts and a gtx 960 for my daughters Fortnite rig. Love your videos man.
Still running x58 i920 here, bought 2009, basicslly running 24/7. Still going strong.
I copied your settings but multiplier drops to 23 in CPUID. In bios its 25.. what can be wrong ?
I have a 4930k, custom water-cooled and running 4.7Ghz @ 1.41V for the past 5 years. Running numerous benchmarks, it comes in just under the Ryzen 1800X stock for multi threaded and is faster by a good margin in single thread.
Not to mention the older quad and triple channel memory boards keep pace with the dual channel ddr4 boards at 3000mhz or greater.
Obviously clock for clock the 4930k is starting to show a bit of age, but with a good overclock it holds its own and I'm still surprised at how slow technology as moved in raw CPU performance. The trade off is, my old CPU uses 180W to achieve what a 90W processor does today.
Great video!
Just here to leave a message. I still own a decade old Core i7 920 rig.
Yes, OC'd @ 4GHz from base 2.66 (2.8) G mark. Running a beast of a GTX 1080 Ti by AORUS for half a year @ 1440p.
Both under water.
Keep up the good work bro!
I just love how you are down to earth; testing old hardware that is still relevant (by the way I still have my X58 platform and I'm happy with it). Unlike some other testers that have been blinded by the free stuff that is sent to them, and start calling hardware from like 3 or 4 years ago "VERY OLD".
Anyway, I love your channel; I love your reviews; good work brother!!!
That northbridge looks great. The sub straight is so thick.
The x58 boards are still hard to find here in Canada. Those X79 chinese boards made x79 builds possible though.
Funny thing that triple channel just now gets to its potential, like the first time after 10 years. Socket 1366 was legendary to me and still is x)
Working on my 3rd and 4th x58 systems, first was a x5660 that went to 4.41 stable on air, than 3 x5670s in a row going to 4.4-4.5ghz all stable. So much value for the money when you can find the boards at a decent price.
I overclocked the core i7 930 to 4.3 Ghz on air. I had to back it down to 4 Ghz because I soon found that it wasn't stable. Now, I'm getting a xeon x5690 so that my games don't bottleneck anymore and I plan on overclocking that to 4.5Ghz as well.
I actually just built an X5675 system a few months ago that I use as my main computer. It's absolutely worth it. CPU was $24 USD. 24gb of ram (triple channel) I think was like $50. Motherboard was unfortunately $100, but it still saved me money over a ryzen system.
That stuff coupled with a GTX 1660 TI was getting me 80-120fps @1080p in the Modern Warfare beta. I looked up other people's FPS on RUclips and with their custom settings they were getting the same fps on much newer systems, and even like 10fps lower on ryzen systems.
Also keep in mind this is at stock speeds (or less) with my X5675. I'm not sure if I've got a bios issue or what, but I just can't get my bios menu to even function when I click on the frequency menu, and then in HWMonitor it reports my highest frequencies achieved as 3.1ghz.
Spectre and Meltdown patches are disabled. So yeah, if it is keeping up that well with the latest and greatest in a game I was really playing, I'd say it's absolutely worth it if you can get it at a good price. Hell, with my experience I'd go as far as to say pick up an X5650 for $9 on eBay right now and you'll be surprised out how well it does relative to the price you paid.
Its so amazing you still like x58, cuz its what i am still using on my gaming. I see no reason why i should change it. I run 980x at 4500mhz 2000 ddr3 24 gigs of ram. and 2 1070's in sli and it runs flawlesly . i have a solid install of 10 i had since win 7 days, and so much stuff installed, i felt not changing it and i don't need usb3 or hot wire or whatever. got a HTPC with haswell so no biggie. but their is no bottlenecks at all wow on an EVGA x58.
6:00 I've encountered this before. What I do is disconnect all my other drives when installing windows and plug them back in afterwards. That way I know the bootloader is on the C drive so it avoids problems if you need to change drives around etc.
This is a great little setup for those just digging into Data Science and Machine Learning. Nice build.
I've benched my w3690 at 4.7ghz and cinebenched 1020cb with 2000mhz triple channel ram. Best chipset ever
Still in use with an i7-980X Extreme Edition - 3,33 GHz Six Core CPU.
- Same ASUS X58 Motherboard
- I7 980x
- 24GB of RAM (Kingston DDR3 1333)
Bought it from "eBay-Kleinanzeigen" in Germany (like gumtree.com) a year ago for only 160,00 EUR (197,99 $)
It is still a very good platform!
Thank you for all your good videos!
I built my first rig two years ago. And it was 15 years since I built a gaming rig. And it was a x58 with a x5670 and it was all because of your videos that I picked these parts. The motherboard was a asus p6t but for some reason it wouldnt go past 4.2ghz. I even tried it with a x5687 and the same thing. 4.2ghz. I loved that machine but It started having cold boot issues. So I sold it and got a ryzen 1600. I want another one just to play around with.