6 Cores (and more) for everyone! Taking a closer look at the LGA 1356 platform.

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @Ininale
    @Ininale 5 лет назад +48

    Wow, I've heard about this platform from some russian techno youtubers but, I swear to god, I didn't expect results like this... It's just unbelievable and extremely cheap! Thanks for your videos Phil!

  • @stebo5562
    @stebo5562 5 лет назад +87

    So interesting that companies are making new motherboards with these older sockets. Goes to show how good of a value these old xeons are.

    • @1112223333111
      @1112223333111 5 лет назад +8

      backdoors, meltdown

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 5 лет назад

      @@1112223333111 Ain´t a stupid feature by design a pain in the end.

    • @user78405
      @user78405 5 лет назад +3

      nobody cares of vulnerable cause its very high level hacker requires CIA tools to make a successful backdoor ...ITS NOT LIKE PUT SCRIPT KIDDIES DOES UNDER WINDOWS 10...SINCE WINDOWS IS VULNERABLE ..EVERYONE IS NOW ...SECURE OR NOT ...INCLUDING RYZEN 3000 series

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 5 лет назад +1

      @@user78405 Sad that this practice just keeps on going..

    • @FilaMan74
      @FilaMan74 5 лет назад +5

      Who's needs backdoors (Meltdown & Spectre) when Windows 10 is installed?

  • @shakib1024054
    @shakib1024054 5 лет назад +12

    This a good way to go for a budget build! for a little bit more one can look into 'R5 1600(6C/12T) + GB B450 Aorus M MB + 2x8GB 3000MHz Ram' combo. got those those for $217 last month and could not be happier. With Ryzen 3rd gen announced, 1st get R5s are a steal these days!

  • @peterilling1627
    @peterilling1627 3 года назад +1

    Just been testing mine this week Phil very happy with it .

  • @NexusFantismo
    @NexusFantismo 4 года назад

    I have a Ryzen workstation and a MSI laptop but I like these value build videos, especially with the twist you give them. I'll never forget where I came from, gaming on an Atom 2 in 1 tablet/notebook, playing classic DOS games. Those games have more soul than most of these games that come out now so I may be looking to revisit them soon. Cheers from USA.

  • @renanwillian4006
    @renanwillian4006 5 лет назад +88

    Oh no, another VERY GOOD video, this is wonderful.

    • @Felix-ve9hs
      @Felix-ve9hs 5 лет назад +1

      Damn it, no clickbait :)

    • @atruebrit6452
      @atruebrit6452 5 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/pBtT-vYeIyE/видео.html
      nuf said!

  • @smileyguyz
    @smileyguyz 5 лет назад +14

    You can get cheap VRM coolers off aliexpress, they're a bit hard to find however. I believe if you search using keywords such as MOSFET cooling and similar keywords

  • @shironhun
    @shironhun 5 лет назад +21

    I've heard about this platform before, thanks to Bryan from Tech YES City, but now I have more information about it, thank you!
    You earned yourself a new subscriber!

  • @Akoshnai
    @Akoshnai 5 лет назад +11

    Great videos! i recently became a fan and i love the videos, very informative! keep the good work! greetings from Argentina :D

  • @declasm
    @declasm 5 лет назад +5

    I'm onboard Phil! I just replaced my HP Z600 with dual X5675s for a Supermicro X9DAL motherboard based system with dual e5 2470s to give me a super cheap 16 core 32 thread workstation, Getting around 1900 in cinebench r15

  • @joannaatkins822
    @joannaatkins822 5 лет назад +4

    Yet another excellent video! This board and processor are obviously more suited to gaming, but I bet it could handle office/professional work well too

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +3

      Office for sure! As well as the usual browsing the Internet, watching videos and all of that stuff.

  • @HeyImGaminOverHere
    @HeyImGaminOverHere 5 лет назад +2

    I really enjoy this new series Phil! It is fantastic and super helpful, keep up the awesome work! :)

  • @Dancel2021
    @Dancel2021 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks Phil, great quality in your videos as always.

  • @peterporker3785
    @peterporker3785 5 лет назад +7

    Liked the video, just wanted to comment on how TDP is a rating of thermal output for CPUs, not power consumption. TDP can be close to the power consumption of the part, but not always.

  • @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
    @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt 5 лет назад +2

    Really love your videos, you have got me totally hooked on the used market!
    Can't wait for the overclocking video.

  • @JC7119
    @JC7119 5 лет назад +1

    Super glad to see you trying an unlocked processor

  • @gvii
    @gvii 5 лет назад +4

    Ever since switching my R3E over to an x5680, I'm a huge fan of running the older Xeons. You just can't beat the price, and there's plenty of performance there to be had.

    • @GreenTwins
      @GreenTwins 5 лет назад +1

      So did the xeon have much better performance. Cause I am building a pc and was going to buy a ryzen 3 1200 for an upgrade path or would a xeon be better

  • @chylihia7550
    @chylihia7550 5 лет назад +4

    idk why don't have more subs than now, for me u are doing good and ur videos aren't boring and u take time to watch comments

  • @JakubChalupnik
    @JakubChalupnik 5 лет назад +3

    I just love these videos. I happen to have bunch of older 2011 and 13something6 CPUs (not sure if it's 1356 or 1366) so I am definitely going to find them and then get a motherboard based on your recommendations.

  • @987grgg
    @987grgg 5 лет назад +1

    Really loving this series. Thank you for the content.

  • @sagadiablo
    @sagadiablo 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks very much for these videos Phil!

  • @BlazeElPadrino662
    @BlazeElPadrino662 5 лет назад +1

    This is the best reviews on RUclips for this motherboard! Congratulations! Thanks for taking the time to test the E5-2470 too. Only a little catch, as in the description you give direct product links for some items but for others you provided a search result instead and IDK if it's only an issue with my phone or AliExpress app but search results give me an empty page... If you could kindly provide direct product links for all the CPUs it would be greatly appreciated! Also, do you know of there is any store with "cheap" DHL shipping cost (relative to each other)? Best regards!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      I'll keep that in mind for the next videos. I prefer searches as it doesn't single out particular sellers and spreads the love :D Links should work on the desktop.

  • @QuantumBraced
    @QuantumBraced 5 лет назад +4

    For a second I thought this was a Micro STX board from the thumbnail, but no Mini DTX. Cool, thank you for the info.

  • @ShaneSimpson1
    @ShaneSimpson1 5 лет назад +11

    I really am loving this content on old xeons I've always been interested but almost all of the videos covering these are in Russian or some other Eastern European languages with no translation available so this is extremely useful

  • @911Salvage
    @911Salvage 5 лет назад +19

    I'd say this motherboard is far below the socket 2011 motherboards you've reviewed in terms of quality. I'd pay the extra $20-30 for either of the LGA2011 boards if I want to get on the budget Xeon bandwagon.

  • @josebonilla101
    @josebonilla101 5 лет назад +2

    Yet another excellent video. Thanks for your time and insight!

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband326 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks Dr Phil.

  • @alex69go2pl
    @alex69go2pl 5 лет назад +7

    PhilsComputerLab, what budget set for today you propose for plex/nas multimedia server?

  • @leredflame286
    @leredflame286 5 лет назад +1

    Great video, love using your videos for build ideas!

  • @dadgamer6717
    @dadgamer6717 5 лет назад +1

    Great to see games using multi core well! I sold my old Dell T7500 with x5670 6C12T which looks similar isngle core performance to this. I got an E5 1620 instead as has higher single core performance but 'only' 4C8T. Interesting stuff!

  • @mr.transistor2823
    @mr.transistor2823 5 лет назад

    Thank you for your review. I am having big pleasure listening you. It is good that your are showing the power consumption, as it is not common for most tech observers. Maybe here also would be good to add few words about the efficiency for your power supply, as final power consumption is very dependent of PSU. Some less experienced viewers could take it wrong thinking that values of power consumption you show is what only CPU and mobo use, missing the fact that PSU itself can consume from 5% to 40% of power. And due to this real CPU`s TDP under max load actually corresponds to official spec. paper.

  • @AlfaPro1337
    @AlfaPro1337 5 лет назад +1

    Looks like there are mounting holes for the VRM. Only if one can mill out and attached a simple heatsink.

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks Phil for the comprehensive video. Superb as usual 😄

  • @TimmyJoePCTech
    @TimmyJoePCTech 5 лет назад +5

    So much shade from HwUb hahaha. Man you struck a nerve, well Brian's been doing.it for way longer. Haha. You should be proud

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +3

      Yea, I'm genuinely happy with the performance I'm seeing, but yea I was working on LGA 775 and Phenom II projects, so I guess I got carried away a little bit and lacking comparison with modern CPUs.

    • @yarchieduke
      @yarchieduke 5 лет назад +1

      EEEEY IT'S TIMMY FKN JOE! WOOOOOOOOO!

  • @nasroml12
    @nasroml12 5 лет назад +2

    Great combo as always

  • @danielson9579
    @danielson9579 5 лет назад +3

    Looking forward to the next video 🙂👍

  • @lapptech
    @lapptech 5 лет назад

    Looks like a great start for a budget server or NAS.

  • @nephron9924
    @nephron9924 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for the great video Phil!! Would you recommend this current setup for a power efficient freenas/plex server build, or one of the other versions of this board with a lower TDP processor?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      The idle power draw is higher than what I see on LGA 1155 with Sandy or Ivy Bridge Quad, so with that in mind I might lean towards 1155 instead!

    • @nephron9924
      @nephron9924 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab Thank you!

  • @davidprescott5690
    @davidprescott5690 5 лет назад

    Hey @PhilsComputerLab did you use an NVME SSD or SATA? As the Aliexpress listing for this motherboard says it only supports NVME, but I'm not sure why

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Yes I used a NVME PCIe SSD! It has PCIe 3.0 x 2 specifications.

  • @MunkeyChips
    @MunkeyChips 5 лет назад +2

    Those Xeons are impressive for their age. My i5-4690k is starting to show its age in some newer titles. Stuff like DOOM (2016) and Forza are fine, though. The Vulkan and DX12 APIs seem to push my GPU harder and the 4 core CPU is still good enough @4.1Ghz.
    Where the 4 cores really struggle are in Ubisoft open-world games like Watchdogs 2. It gets choked on geometry draw-calls. To hit 60fps consistently, I have to lower the geometry settings a notch or two.

  • @necrospencer658
    @necrospencer658 5 лет назад +23

    The LGA2011 platform is worth it even for the additional cash

    • @basshead.
      @basshead. 5 лет назад +4

      Very true.

    • @MrYedige
      @MrYedige 5 лет назад +2

      Necro Spencer and that extra is not that much overall. I think really, as Phil said, the value of 1356 is about cheap 6 cores and 12 threads, but not anything beyond that. Want more cores? Just get yourself a 2011 mobo, you get so much more stuff for your money and 8 cores are super affordable.

  • @TheRealFobican
    @TheRealFobican 5 лет назад +3

    Of course, the Chinese knows how to make a compelling budget friendly motherboard to pair up old high end parts to get something quite interesting, even if quality is one of those things that is doubtful.

  • @Panoroma
    @Panoroma 5 лет назад +1

    I am not too familiar with server sockets, but I do want to eventually build a Xeon system for both gaming and general multitasking. Which socket would you recommend? All of them seem decent enough, but I'm not sure which one is the best value in overall

  • @1XSTEALTHTWINTURBOX1
    @1XSTEALTHTWINTURBOX1 5 лет назад +2

    32gb is so cool. You linked the ram modules right. And Wewt Battlefield 1
    I happy for you. Seems everyone wants these videos. Squeezing the dollar is so much fun.
    I have tons of fancy hardware and i dont use it much. Save it for customers.

  • @MarioVanni
    @MarioVanni 5 лет назад +2

    thank you for sharing this valuable information, keep it up with these great hardware videos, greetings from Chile

  • @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159
    @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159 5 лет назад +32

    Once you have done all these motherboards and CPUs can you do a summary wrap up for price performance.
    I am mostly interested in content creation.
    Cheers

    • @OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGM
      @OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGM 5 лет назад +3

      I'd wager the best option is still the Xeon 2689 LGA2011 Plattform. CPU is like 50$ on AliExpress, Mainboard is about 75$-90$. 8 Cores 16 Threads DDR3 ECC, you get heaps of perfomance for a really cheap price.

    • @oscarl-b8870
      @oscarl-b8870 5 лет назад

      Theman703 that's what I bought, so hopefully lol

    • @OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGM
      @OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGM 5 лет назад +2

      @@oscarl-b8870 If I had know about this before, I may would've rather bought the 2689 instead of a ryzen 1600, especially because I already had 16Gb of DDR3 From my FX Rig. Alas now it's too late.

    • @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159
      @howumighthaveanimatedthat2159 5 лет назад +1

      @@OMGOMGOMGOGMOGMOGM I can't see how Steve from hardware unboxed can say it's only $100 extra for a ryzen system

    • @twmbarlwmstar
      @twmbarlwmstar 5 лет назад

      Yes I think a longer or multi-video round-up would be good. There's a lot to take in. But it seems we hold off on this MB as it isn't the best value.

  • @con2botonesnadamas433
    @con2botonesnadamas433 5 лет назад +1

    Although what I like the most is your retro-hardware content (best content creator when it comes to retro PC !), specially Pentium III and earlier era, it is good to know a bit more on the Xeon line, which I am not that familiar with. Greetings from Uruguay !

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Yea I covered so much already with Retro, and also I don't get any requests as to what people want to see. Whereas with these Xeon stuff, there is a real buzz and it's exciting!

    • @con2botonesnadamas433
      @con2botonesnadamas433 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab But what about slot 2 Xeon!? ;-)

  • @johnmijo
    @johnmijo 5 лет назад +2

    A very demanding simulation is City Skylines, that gives any CPU's a very hard time since you can manually adjust counters in the game menu to test the heck out of the simulation and your system :)

    • @TheJuggtron
      @TheJuggtron 5 лет назад

      Cities is more worried about the single thread performance still (it uses more than 1 thread but its still limited) - a fast quad runs just as good as anything with more threads.

  • @koqla3515
    @koqla3515 5 лет назад +3

    I have a question. X5670 looks better thank the xeon 2430V2 so why did you choose 1356?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      I'm not familiar with that CPU, tell me more!

    • @jamesjacob9632
      @jamesjacob9632 5 лет назад +3

      PhilsComputerLab you don't know x5670??? It's a west mere 6core Xeon that can overclock really high. 4.5+ ghz. You do bclk overclocking on an x58 motherboard. You can buy those cpus for cheap. X5650-20 bucks max. Sometimes 10 dollars. The problem is you can't find the motherboards for cheap. Incredible deal if you can find a good motherboard.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      @@jamesjacob9632 Ah yes, well that makes it hard to recommend then.

    • @pagb666
      @pagb666 5 лет назад +1

      @@jamesjacob9632 Yep, mobos can be expensive AF. Only good if you manage to stumble across cheap one.

    • @gertjanvandermeij4265
      @gertjanvandermeij4265 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab HUANAN , on Aliexpress , has also NEW X58 boards , for around 60 bucks ! See here : nl.aliexpress.com/item/33026618487.html

  • @matthewfyfe8422
    @matthewfyfe8422 Год назад +1

    Hey, Phil great video. Any chance you could run through unlocking turbo boost on this motherboard?

  • @yuukigaming3154
    @yuukigaming3154 5 лет назад +3

    Woah, It's Friday again. As always good content. Yeah you have a point to switch to lga 2011 if we want to get the 8c/16t for low cost.

  • @AdrianTap
    @AdrianTap 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you! This Mobo looks good!

  • @Saintbow
    @Saintbow 5 лет назад +1

    As always, superb work man

  • @KL-bi2un
    @KL-bi2un 2 года назад

    Thanks for a wonderful video and here are some comments from my testing. I'm using the 8 core E5-2450v2 and if I stress test (prime95) the 8 cores withOUT hyperthreading; it hits the 95w tdp limit. Thus, it may be worthwhile to turn off HT for gaming. Also, it would be useful to prevent core-parking (speed throttling at idle). The difference in idle power usage for me was 15.5 watts with 8 cores full speed (2.9 Ghz) and 12.3 watts (8 cores but with idling). Hopefully this can help micro-stuttering as the LGA1356 chips just lack the max single thread IPC due to their limited 95W tdp max.

  • @5awiii
    @5awiii 5 лет назад

    So what cpu do your recommend? The Xeon 2470V2 if you can afford it? Or is that the one wich made your board shut off?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Basically, this board and 2430V2, but if you can spend more, or need more performance, go with LGA 2011. Do not get higher CPU than 2430V2, the value is poor.

    • @5awiii
      @5awiii 5 лет назад

      Thanks a lot for the quick response and really interesting video!

  • @thibaudp168
    @thibaudp168 5 лет назад +2

    Love your videos ! keep up the good work ! Good price performance is great, but aren't you concerned about durability ? Seems to me this isn't that of a bargain if it fries only after a few month. Not sure if we can trust the brands, even if giving a second life to theses older server processors is exiting and good for the environment.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      That's why I recommend parts that go well together, consume little power and should last you a long time!

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 5 лет назад +2

    ✌️😏 for Simulation i recommend picking up both: Euro Truck Simulator & American Truck Simulator, its alot easier than a flight simulator if ur a noob 😊
    🙂 some people find them relaxing, pickup a load at a shipper and then spend the day in actual time driving Over The Road, just like us real truckers ✌️😎🚛🚛🚛🚛🚛
    😏 pickup a CB Radio & Whip Antenna as well if u wana get even more into it ☺️ lol
    .

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo 5 лет назад +2

      @@comfy_rwds 🙂 sounds good

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks I'll have a look!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      @mctwhizz Project Cars 2 has a a free demo! So I'll be using this in future videos, there are 2 races, the second one has rain and seems to be more demanding, so that will be a good test :D

    • @MrSamadolfo
      @MrSamadolfo 5 лет назад +1

      @@philscomputerlab 🙂 yes thats a good one for tests 🚗

  • @unexplainedphenom81
    @unexplainedphenom81 5 лет назад

    Another great video, Phil! So informative. Im just about to build a Ryzen 5 2600 system with my rx480. I would like to look into a x79/x58 system. Just to see how it performs against a midrange system of today.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +2

      The 2600 is quite powerful, you need a CPU that is unlocked, like 1650V2 and clock past 4 GHz to have a chance.

  • @NaoVII
    @NaoVII 5 лет назад +1

    Do you have any plan on making an overclocking video on the PlexHD mobo from last video? I'm on the edge of buying that board. And please compare E5-2689 to R7 1700, R5 2600, and/or i5 9400F!!! :D

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      Yes that's coming soon! I'll be using a 1650V2! And I don't have any such modern parts, they are quite expensive. I do need a faster GPU though, the RX 580 is not cutting it with faster CPUs, even at 720p it's bottlenecking the systems.

    • @NaoVII
      @NaoVII 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab Understandable, I hope you can afford a high end GPU soon. Btw why don't you monetize your videos? An ad at the beginning and the end of your videos will be fine.

  • @diygf9796
    @diygf9796 5 лет назад +19

    Wow very good, you always impress me, keep making more, maybe compare motherboards side by side ?😘

  • @nullsmack
    @nullsmack 5 лет назад +1

    Do any of these cheap boards do the dual cpu thing? I'm guessing not, but thought I'd ask.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      Not that I've seen, for dual Xeon action, there are LGA 2011 boards.

  • @gl_tonight
    @gl_tonight 5 лет назад

    you can get dual sided thermal tape and then and fitful heatsink for those mosfets, it's not too hard to get these randomly together

  • @theBoomerDoomer
    @theBoomerDoomer 5 лет назад

    Hey Phil, I've just noticed stores like WUSON on AE are selling mobo/processor/memory/cooler/etc bundles very close to some of the systems you've spec'ed out lately. What are your thoughts on these bundles? Are the Chinese RAM kits still a bit dodgy or are these a good value?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      If things go to plan, I might be able to review such a bundle soon! With the RAM, so far I bought 4 kits from AE and they all work as advertised, but some RAM was modified, overclocked basically. So yea, a bit sketchy, but in terms of function, you do get working RAM.

    • @theBoomerDoomer
      @theBoomerDoomer 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab that's good to know, thanks for the quick reply, too!

  • @colekelly697
    @colekelly697 5 лет назад +2

    Lga 1356 CPUs are a bit cheaper on eBay in the states if anyone's trying to save a few more bucks. The six core Xeon is going for around $35.

  • @maker7901
    @maker7901 4 года назад +1

    im getting one of these boards because their cheap pretty much lol for my stepbrother however its not this board you showed in your video its a jingsha x79 board for $49 USD. i still do have a e5 2420 v2 sitting around im giving him this setup because hes running on a fx 6300 so since alot more games are using more threads thought i would give him a little upgrade thats better for core thread work flow for games and other processes in the background.

  • @maxxlr8tion578
    @maxxlr8tion578 5 лет назад +1

    Great Vid man, Looking forward to the LGA2011 video!

  • @Ray-dx2pf
    @Ray-dx2pf 5 лет назад +1

    You might try some of those small heatsinks with 3m thermal tape you can get off ebay. I bought some for a 760g motherboard vrm and it worked pretty well. Just make sure it is legitimate 3m thermal tape will typically be cheaper with the tape pre applied.

  • @rodrigo4379
    @rodrigo4379 5 лет назад

    Theres great flagship mobos for not very much, but its kidan hard to find those deals. Great video! that cpu is super good for the price

  • @Magic-Enlightenment
    @Magic-Enlightenment 4 года назад

    @philscomputerlab just curious. Have you tried two 32GB RAM 🐏 sticks i.e 64GB to see if they are compatible? The board specs are very non specific on various Chinese / Russian sites about this board but the these Xeon’s should support higher ram it all depends if the sockets contain the required address lines...

  • @BratislavMetulskie
    @BratislavMetulskie 5 лет назад +1

    did you checked the value of dual cpu configs? the fact that you can not threw the 10c in there is a disappointment. thank you for pointing that out.

  • @nothsim
    @nothsim 5 лет назад +1

    Great great job.

  • @pamelahusky1179
    @pamelahusky1179 5 лет назад

    If it's just a standard directory on the system that's locked, NTFS Access might be able to unlock it for you as well as every directory on the hard drive if you just select the entire drive. That's what I used to access things in Windows 7 but never tried on something downloaded from the Microsoft store on Windows 10.

  • @MrRobbyvent
    @MrRobbyvent 5 лет назад

    If I'm not totally wrong with english (I'm not fluent), seemed to me that you compared termal dissipated power with the electrical power draw from PSU which is an error. Am I wrong?

  • @francoisfritz198
    @francoisfritz198 5 лет назад

    @ 12:45 , use enzotech mos-c1 cooler to improve vrm's cooling. 1pack: 10pcs with adhesive thermal pad, for my motherboard im using 2 packs.

  • @WarLordN1k
    @WarLordN1k 5 лет назад +1

    I want to thank you as i have just got into older server components. I live in a good used market area for older server gear. so i have a few of these cpus kicking around and will try out some of the china new mother boards as i am tired of having what sounds like a jet taking off in my nerd cave. so the idea of a more normal cooling solutions on my servers with out doing massive mods to 1u rack mount systems is appealing.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      If you like it cool and quiet, just get a V2 with Ivy Bridge. They are significantly less power hungry.

    • @WarLordN1k
      @WarLordN1k 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab yes i have sniped a few of the ivy bridge based servers from a local resale outfits but in a 1u form factor servers they are still loud at idle.

  • @pierregrobbelaar9116
    @pierregrobbelaar9116 5 лет назад +1

    I was thinking to maybe change my L5640 x 2 to the faster X56xx model but i don't think i will benefit from it.I am using her as a storage server.

  • @usernamefromhell
    @usernamefromhell 5 лет назад +1

    I went with an X5670 ($19), with 24gb of ecc ram running in triple channel($35, used server ram, eBay auction), and a cheap used motherboard($28), but yeah, the results are pretty much the same, and less than 100 bucks.
    I got a nice used cooler for just $10, a 240gb ssd for $24, and now all that's left is snipping a good deal on a used RX480 8gb, the whole rig should come in just under $200. Hopefully I'll have it up and running by the end of the month.
    It should be able to play pretty much everything in high/ultra settings at 1080p/60+fps (except maybe PUBG, that game is just horribly unoptimized).
    And it'll pay for itself in video editing work.
    Future upgrades for the same computer:
    -PCIe X16 NVMe adapter and 1TB NVMe SSD(non bootable, but can be defaulted to for all programs to be installed on it, and having the video files being edited on that drive will make everything faster as well)
    -PCIe X4 USB 3.1 Gen2 adapter (will make getting files from the camera to the computer MUCH faster)

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Nice! I'm curious, how does your camera interface so that it benefits from USB 3.1 Gen 2? Is that a high speed SD card reader or something else?

  • @reyzafany1992
    @reyzafany1992 5 лет назад +1

    Hello Phil's this is very helpful video which coincides with my current plan to build using a 2420v2 cpu for this platform. I'd also like to ask you that since m2 nvme port is not running at full speed, is it possible to put a normal m2 sata ssd on the port instead? Thank you Phil for your video

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Hmm, there might be adaptors, but not sure!

    • @reyzafany1992
      @reyzafany1992 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab I mean there are m2 ssd with sata protocol right? Not all m2 ssd is nvme. So I'm wondering if that m2 sata ssd will be detected, I heard most motherboard with m2 nvme port will detect m2 sata ssd drives but I'm not sure and hoping you'll be willing to check since my motherboard has not yet to come.

  • @kingberango5549
    @kingberango5549 4 года назад +1

    Hi, Can I ask something? What Heatsink sockets are compatible with LGA 1356? Thanks.

  • @inaina7271
    @inaina7271 5 лет назад

    Nice Vid. Want to try it with E5 2470 anyway. How big are the VRMs exactly? I want to mount heatsink coolers to all to this board. Even if they have aircooling i think it would run much cooler.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      Don't do it! I urge you to go with LGA 2011 instead, check my 2nd last video! Spacing is 95mm I think

  • @batman9592
    @batman9592 5 лет назад +2

    TDP is what your Cooler must handle and how much airflow your case needs etc, it has nothing to do with power consumption at the wall. You CAN trust the rated TDP of a component. That's why you see those power meters for sale in stores, especially in countries with high power prices. You will also notice it's warm in their houses and the heated floor is on in the laundry.

  • @KnurdMonkey
    @KnurdMonkey 5 лет назад

    Could you please link the exact object you did buy...there is a big price mismatch from what you say in the video.

  • @SergiuC..
    @SergiuC.. 5 лет назад +2

    Would you recommend this CPU over FX 6300?

  • @hojnikb
    @hojnikb 5 лет назад

    Does the motherboard or platform in general allow overclocking? While it's really enticing as a cheap multicore setup, frequencies are really low and could use an overclock.

  • @benb5682
    @benb5682 5 лет назад +3

    Good work phil!!

  • @twmbarlwmstar
    @twmbarlwmstar 5 лет назад

    Best channel on YT for me currently, not just the subject but the depth of coverage on the subject. Answering our questions so I really feel I am going to buy with this. I do Have 4 builds to go yet, and I need to sell at least 2 or my wife will leave me, or make me leave her and sleep on a tent.
    Some limitations on I/O but this is still a good deal. One thing, about 09:32 we can see you talking about RAM and the SATA ports are labelled ATA 3. Earlier you say they are only SATA 2? Not sure with the memory issues, what to do? Do I just order the RAM and accept it will probably work but not as rated or am I better getting on eBAY and going with 2nd hand DDR3. In the UK DDR3 isn’t really cheap and ECC isn’t always cheap (and tends to be even slower than 13333 often enough.
    Really have to place an order on this though. What I really would like to see is some SFF/ITX is that available, I would probably be happy to be a guinea pig on that as the CPU will be OK and I can always order a mATX if I hit a dud. I can face losing $60 on a gamble.
    This is the best YT channel I watch at the moment, can’t praise you enough.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      The ports are usually labelled from 0 to 3, but yea, they are only SATA 2. It does have M.2 NVME slot for better performance. So with DDR3 registered ECC from China, I have bought 4 RAM kits, and in terms of function, they all perform to what was advertised. But some RAMs are modified, meaning they overclocked them, but I believe they do test them. I also found that most RAM locally is only 1333, but most should OC to 1600. But I've also bought 1866 RAM locally, you just got to keep looking. Before you rush out and buy 1136, do consider 2011 socket with a 2630V2 CPU. I'm working on a video comparing 1356 and 2011, and even at the budget end, 2011 makes more sense. The boards costs more, but are faster and way more features, and CPUs are cheaper.

    • @twmbarlwmstar
      @twmbarlwmstar 5 лет назад +1

      @@philscomputerlab Yes I am going to wait, like I say I have 4 builds to do yet and I'm being quite slow about them. Just great that you do such in depth videos because I don't have the nervousness that I would have about the China thing normally. I heard about it but you explain it.

    • @twmbarlwmstar
      @twmbarlwmstar 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab Yes, idiot that I am, I'm just looking at SATA port number 3!

  • @jacobwhittaker6241
    @jacobwhittaker6241 5 лет назад +2

    Crazy to think you can get something almost as fast as my computer now for so cheap. My e5-1650-v2, ga-x79-ud3, 16gb ram(4x4), and 980 ti hybrid aren't to much ahead of this computer.

  • @MrSamadolfo
    @MrSamadolfo 5 лет назад +1

    ✌️😏 775 & 1156 FTW! ✌️😏

  • @szymonh.4133
    @szymonh.4133 5 лет назад +1

    Hello, would you be able to test this platform with the rx470D graphics card. I would like to know how the performance looks like.
    because I want to put together such a set.

  • @ngocthienta5299
    @ngocthienta5299 5 лет назад

    What do you think of the Xeon 2430L? I found it quite cheap on Taobao and its TDP is only 60W, should i really go for it? ( i only play LoL)

  • @mr.vvilson1243
    @mr.vvilson1243 5 лет назад

    Just found your channel. I've always been interested in not-bleeding-edge tech for the budget minded person. Hell, I'm still gaming on a 10 year old Phenom II, hahaha. Thank you for your efforts!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      That's awesome! I was actually working on a FX-6300 video when I heard about these parts. And yea, they perform surprisingly well, much better than the FX!

  • @dabombinablemi6188
    @dabombinablemi6188 5 лет назад

    On motherboards this small, it's good that they didn't offer triple channel memory. The extra length that the motherboard would have needed wouldn't have reached the next set of screw holes - and one of my motherboards which has that manufacturing choice flexes and creaks alarmingly when I install RAM.

  • @garyhope6577
    @garyhope6577 5 лет назад +1

    Phil. Do you ever feel like we have it too good these days with all these awesome cheap and powerful hardware components ? Thanks for sharing the love.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      In a way yes, the used PC parts market is really healthy, if you can dial down expectations a little bit, than it's amazing value.

    • @garyhope6577
      @garyhope6577 5 лет назад +1

      @@philscomputerlab I've very much lowered my expectations. I actually sold my newest PC in favour of building a butt kicking system from used parts. I have no regrets.
      My i7 6700k rig went to a good home, I was originally going to put the money towards a Ryzen 7 3800 on release, I ended up with a Xeon E5-2687W for my older x79 system. That was the highest performance CPU officially supported on my Gigabyte GA-x79 UD3 so I pulled the trigger. It's in the mail right now. I can't wait!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      @@garyhope6577 Yea it's nice to be able to sit back, let the Ryzen 3000 reviews come around. B550 boards won't be out until next year either, so I think it will be a while until the market is healthy and prices settled. Oh and never rule out Intel, they will for sure respond! More and more games are super optimized and you can put most money into a graphics card these days.

    • @batman9592
      @batman9592 5 лет назад

      No good deals on decent GPUs due to Mining. Specifically SLI capable components as a flow on effect.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      RX 570 and 580 are good value, but I will wait for July to see what the new AMD cards, and GeForce Super is like.

  • @Sevanon
    @Sevanon 5 лет назад +3

    Yay! I finally got the motherboard from customs today. Have the exact same processor. Got 2x8gb 1866 sticks (funnily enough with PLEX HD stickers on them) so will see how the memory works on my motherboard as I had different accessories in the box. Also bought one of those SSD but I wanted a black SSD for the case so was limited to 360gb but that should be enough for windows and a few games. I also have a 580 and 570 I want to test so good to see what results are possible.
    As a fan do you happen to have a discord server for people to go to? Share pictures and different things they have found with these chinese motherboards? Again great video and look forward to seeing more from you in the future!

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      Hmm, I remember signing up for something, but not sure if it was an account or server. I'm mostly on twitter these days, and a few facebook groups.

    • @Sevanon
      @Sevanon 5 лет назад +2

      @@philscomputerlab Well if you ever do get a discord account and create your own server I think it would be pretty good too see how many people share similar things within the community you have grown here on youtube. Servers are free to setup and a great way to share things. TechYesCity and ScienceStudio seem to co-run one together and the community share different parts of builds there too. Just thought I would mention it in case it is something you are interested in.

    • @Sevanon
      @Sevanon 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab Out of interest, what do you use to record gameplay / benchmark results? Thinking of getting some comparisons with the hardware I have to see how things compare with different platforms. CPUs in current builds I have and want to test are, Xeon E3-1245, X5660, x5670, x5675, g4560, i5 4440, i7 4960x. + different GPUs, 980ti, 1060 6gb, 570 4gb, 580 8gb. Thanks.

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      @@Sevanon MSI Afterburner, it's a free download, but takes a while to configure.

    • @Sevanon
      @Sevanon 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab Will have to have a play with it later. I have used it before but not too much in depth. What do you use for screen capture?

  • @promammoth7397
    @promammoth7397 5 лет назад

    I'm thinking about getting this to replace my x3470. Because I only get 40ish fps in Minecraft modded and my CPU is holding me back not my gpu (rx 560 4gb). After seeing this video I know what to do. But do you know if a lga 1156 CPU cooler would fit on a 1356 socket or would I have to get a new cooler?

  • @greypatch8855
    @greypatch8855 5 лет назад +1

    I went down the opteron rabbit hole recently. Dual opteron 6328 actually pretty happy with it

  • @yukiseekyo
    @yukiseekyo 5 лет назад

    Good Video But theres something that i was wondering, is there a way to limit the power consumption of the Sandy Bridge CPU in the bios because i had a few motherboards that have that feature, i know it might hurt boost clocks but i wonder if that is an option thanks.

  • @HD7970
    @HD7970 5 лет назад +2

    i think its better to go with a 2011 socket and thats because you can get boards for around 80 dollars and you can get a 8 core e5 2650 v2 for around 50 dollars

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад

      The 2650V2 is my favourite recommendation, but prices have crept up to over USD 70...

    • @HD7970
      @HD7970 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab never mind i think it was the c2 not the v2

    • @HD7970
      @HD7970 5 лет назад

      @@philscomputerlab it was on ebay you can get them for 55 usd

  • @modernandretrogaming
    @modernandretrogaming 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for that series, I thinking for months for buying something like that, will you make also some retro more movies someday with older parts ?

    • @philscomputerlab
      @philscomputerlab  5 лет назад +1

      Yea for sure, it's just that I'm really enjoying working with these parts at the moment!

    • @modernandretrogaming
      @modernandretrogaming 5 лет назад +1

      And I`m enyoing watching your movies about them :) For me you can make even every day new movie, I watch everything you make :)

  • @binkthepidgeon7
    @binkthepidgeon7 5 лет назад +1

    To access windows app files you need to change the setting which hides the folders then the edit and view permissions to your account.