ERRATA: So, I forgot about the i9-7000 series which came out the year before the 9900K. I'd blame Techpowerup, who don't list it on a search for "i9", but it's my own fault for not double checking on Ark!
@@alilokhd4638 No, that’s a conscious decision to keep consistent numbers with the rest of my CPU reviews. I plan on switching to a Radeon for my CPU tests in the future (“season 2”, if you like), but that will also come with a revamp of the benchmark roster. Incidentally, I talked about driver overhead in my previous video on Friday.
Just a note: The i9 9900K was the first i9 CPU released to mainstream desktop. The first i9 CPU released to desktop was the i9 7900X released in 2017 on the X299 platform.
@@devilzuser0050 HEDT means high end desktop technology lmao it's definitely mainstream just like amd threadripper is pretty much the hedt version of ryzen and mainstream version of epyc
Another great video! It’s nice to see how these older systems hold up even today and beyond. I just built a hp z440 with a E5-2697A and paired it with a gtx 1080. It’s a neat system for the price. Keep up the great work good sir 💪
Joekoch I did build some E2699 v4 systems, the >4 Ghz CPU's we kept, meant for gaming SIM racing system. very bad gaming system ! forget overclocking them om fancy for gaming boards, VRM and power issues, boards all failed. You need the Xeon boards for them. even bottlenecking GTX 1080 ti cards, any PC from that area is better, intel > 6700 !! OMEN gaming system now, 13th gen intel is 60% faster !
@@lucasrem I gotcha! I understand that too. They aren’t meant to be pushed to the absolute limits as they are almost at them by default. They are really good mulit-core systems for light/ assorted gaming + workloads. This is even including the gtx 1080/ and 1080ti’s in the systems. They are just good cheaper tinker platforms now.
@@lucasremThey are not bad gaming systems at all. I just paired a measly E5 2630 v4 in a Dell T5810 with a 6700 XT and it rips. For the total price of 400 bucks, there is nothing better.
This channel is so damn good, it's so fun taking a walk down memory lane and how some of these CPUs hold up. It is such a great resource for bang for buck builds
Not for gaming, but if you need cheap workstation for Autodesk etc, E2600 are still very good. They bottleneck any modern RTX card, so not meant to play games on.
Was hoping to see a vid about this generation of Xeons from you mate, top notch as always 😊 I nabbed a 22-Core E5-2699v4 some time ago for the lucky price of £150, paired it with 64GB of RAM on an Asus Rampage Extreme 10 & had it as a solid secondary PC for things like rendering and restoring data, tho admittedly I intially bought it all because I thought it was cool and justified it with the practical stuff 😂
I got myself a 13900k because "I'm going to do simulations, and I need it". Turns out they require much more knowledge than my uni provides on this level, and I really don't have the time to do it, having to work almost every single day, along with still having to attend uni.
I have a system with 2*E5 2696v3, 256gb ram and RTX A4000 (custom cooling). Using it mostly for massive calculations (I'm a scientist). System seriously lacks behind in single core calculations. But if I tried to build smth comparable in parallel calculations from new parts, it will be at least 2-3 times more expensive. And my friend needed cheap upgrade for the system. 130-140$ for motherboard, 32gb ram and e5 2680v4 is pretty good, I think) This old CPUs still have their use)
I am sucker for cores , I use now 4 core pc (i5 2500k) , and soon I will upgrate my pc , I wanted to but i7 2700k as I play only World of Warships so that is enough , but Cyberpunk 2077 is comming slowly out of Alfa version and I would like to play it , so I considered Ryzen 5 4500 very cheap , but for little bit more there is Ryzen 5 5500 , buy , I admit , I am also alfa nerd , so xeon PC would tickle my ego ...
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el yea I advice u to stay away from anything below haswell (I used to own an ivy bridge) they are simply too outdated, and the ryzen 5 5500 is pretty good cpu for gaming purposes and light production if u can find it around 100$
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el take a look at second hand ryzen combo's in your area. A 3600 + mobo + ram is around $200 were I live and might be a better deal than the 4500
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el if you can find an x99 board for a reasonable price i would consider it as well. You have many options of cpus that you can choose from. Prior to X299 i've used the X79 platform (E5-2690v2) which can actually handle cyberpunk pretty damn good, so that would also be an option, however your upgrade path is very limited on X79 👻
Finally, a Broadwell Xeon review. Those Broadwell Xeons at 14nm are now dirt cheap, especially the Xeon e5-2680v4, which I am planning to do a build with (maybe even a twin socket monstrocity with all RAM slots populated) so as to have a comically large core count for running demanding professional tasks). Most importantly, they are fully compatible with existing LGA2011-3 motherboards and upgrading from something like a Xeon e5-2620v3 or 2650v3 to a Xeon e5-2680v4 seems like a no-brainer, which would also make the power consumption less ridiculous.
@@one_step_sideways 👍 I have two X99 systems, one with the i7-6950x and the other with the E5-2680 v4 (14c, 28t), two very different systems even though they have the same motherboard Asus X99-A.
@@julianfiacconi709 So, do you think it's worth buying a Xeon e5-2680v4 for $20 (which it sells for now in China including shipping) and 64GB of RAM in quad channel for $80 with a decent motherboard? and most importantly, is it worth building a twin-socket system with two 2680v4s and 128GB RAM (because of how cheap it would be)? I don't really know if I would even be able to use all 28 cores, but I am planning to work with dual-socket systems in the datacenter as an SRE engineer in the near future.
@@one_step_sideways Dual cpu is not necessary. Most deep learning and machine learning is done on the GPU. Yes, I would still recommend an X99 system with a name brand, whether Asus, Gigabyte, AsRock or EVGA, with a 2680v4 or preferably a 2690v4, coupled with an Nvidia RTX a4000 or a4500. Spend your money on the GPU, you can take it with to the next series up. Xeon e5-26xx v4’s are so cheap right now, except the quality mb are still in the 150-200 dollar range on eBay. However, I have moved on to the X299 motherboards and the i9-10980xe, mainly for the AVX512.
In BFV I fixed the "low polygon count" by downloading "nvidia profile inspector" and changing the allowed "cache size" to unlimited. Once I did that all vehicles and character models started rendering in high quality and no longer looked like models from the early 2000s
I went for a Xeon 1231v3 over a i7 4790 years ago. Was fantastic. Performance was very close to benchmarks I compared too. However any troubleshooting any game I would get to hear "thats a server cpu, its not made for gaming".
The e5-1660v3 and e5-1680v3 has unlocked multipliers. I have the later and it runs really well. Would love to see a e5-2696v4 on your chart. It has a decent turbo multiplier and a l3 cache of 55mb Good video, thank you!
Wow I can't believe how good the X79 1680 V2 is performing in some of these games. I used one for about a year, did amazing, but I just managed to get a cheap upgrade at the time. Very impressive for a 2013 processor
I had been running the 1680v2 from mid 2018 - 1Q2023...it was a terrific CPU for the price ($165, at the time), considering I was able to get a used bundle (ASUS P9X79 Pro + 6 pipe Air Cooler + 8x4GB of DDR3 1600 + i7-3820K) for only $220. I then sold off the i7 for $80, so the motherboard was practically free. It paired well with a GTX 1080Ti ( also bought used in 4Q2019, for $350). That used bundle deal made the overall system build cost quite palatable. Dodged the GPU price bullet by a few months, too. Upgraded earlier this year to E5-2696v3 (Turbo Unlocked with an UV), X99TF, 64GB DDR4, and RTX 2080Ti. A better machine for my use case (mostly productivity, a little gaming). Again, many used components bought locally, save for the CPU off of AliEx ($46) and a new X99TF ($50...that was a deal). Given the RTX 2080TI only cost me $220 (after selling off the Strix waterblock for $50) and the 64GB of DDR4 was $80, the upgrade was relatively inexpensive.
PhoticSneezeOne You should try old X99 board, Xeon E26xx They all have voltage and VRM issues, unable to run them any stable on gaming demands, meant for other uses. only enable 4 cores on 4.2 Gz, 1.4 volt, or it's too hot, voltage spikes, throttles.
@@lucasrem I've got an e5 2680 v2 running stable at 3.6 all cores and boosting to 4.2 all cores it rook some time to get it going smoothly but after two evenings of tuning voltages and durations and down clocking ram timings to play well with the 115 bclk over clock she is solid and don't go over 58 degrees on a heavy load of cinebench r23 for an hour I've got this same 2667 he is using haven't played with seeing how far I can push it though trying to find another Asus p9x79 ws pro board for it but since these chips got cheap the mother boards got expensive
Old Net/Sys Admin here. Getting ready to retire my used Xeon system I built back in early 2016. It runs 24/7 as my server and desktop. My specs are similar to yours. Except I used an AsRock X99 MB and a Xeon E5-2658v3 (almost dead even with the 2667 in multi-threaded performance). I picked up the 2658 for $180 at that time. It's been a great system. But now... I'm going Ryzen with triple the performance and a lower TDP.
I've recently found your channel and am loving this content. My first PC was around this era and it's a really cool way to look back and see everything else that existed alongside the mainstream desktop platforms. I look forward to seeing more from your channel.
Ha noticed my friends channel at 1:55 in your RUclips search! He’s got lots on xeons and x99 stuff! Loving your content so far cheers from Down Under mate 🍻
My Homeserver is still 2011V3 based. I use a Supermicro X10SRL-F Motherboard, a E5 2640V4 (10Core/20Thread) and a Quad Channel Ram kit with 4x8gb, 32gb in total. Absolutely overkill for what i use it for😄
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What about power consumption? I wonder if such a sweet system actually costs more when you consider a years electricity. Why supermicro instead of dell r/t or hp z workstations and servers?
I'd love to see a video on the E5-1660 v4. Give it an overclock and pair it with a decent quad channel ram kit clocked as high as the memory controller will allow and it could be a high ranker on the list!
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A Brazilian guy did this comparative and the 2667 V4 was better in every game tested ;)
I've been running one of these for about the last 14 months and I am very happy with it. I was able to build a system with this (E5-2667v4) and 64GB of DDR4-2400 in quad channel in a Dell Precision Tower case for about $200, plus one of those Chinese mobility RTX 3060m miner cards for another $175 and a PCIe-NVMe adapter board and 1TB SSD for another $75 for an all-in cost of right around $450. Considering the performance I get from that system and the absurd amount of RAM, I think you'd be hard-pressed to make an affordable system that can game perfectly at 1200p (my preferred resolution) that can beat it. I even run a dedicated server on half the cores and memory when I play one of my games with my friends and have no issues.
@@patlotpotlot6154 I'm pretty sure there have been some workstation and datacentre cards with HBM2 since then, but I don't recall any consumer GPUs with HBM2 since the Radeon VII. I might be wrong, though.
@@IcebergTech run a Radeon vii in my system. Non oc’d performance is very acceptable for 1440 applications. Obviously can’t do ray tracing but I have no complaints. Does really well in vr as well.
@@patlotpotlot6154 because it can be an upgrade path for those who took the lower tier processor of the same platform without changing the whole cpu and motherboard
I'm in the middle of throwing together an HP Z640 for light gaming and some other stuff. I opted for the E5-2690v4 because of its insane value proposition. 14 cores at 2.6ghz for about $40. Slapped 64gb ram and a 2070S in there and I'm happily playing 1440p games at a pretty constant 60fps. Sometimes it's a bit stuttery playing Warthunder at max everything, but not much, and so I had the 2667v4 in mind as a backup. Seems like this video is about to make the price go up though lol. But before I do that, I ordered a second CPU tray and another 2690v4. Currently waiting for the fan to arrive, and then I'll have 28 cores to mess around with doing I don't even know what.
i just got a mobo and cpu combo of this coming in the mail now. I got it the cpu and x99 lga 2011 mobo for $77 CAD. The cooler was $40 CAD separate. Pretty good performance for cheap.
The 5775C was a great processor too from the same processor core family, but only 4 cores 8 threads. The secret sauce? The 128MB of L4 cache If you dont want a Xeon, you could get an i7-5960x for around the same price, but be aware, this is on the older haswell architecture and an older node, yes you can overclock it, but the 2667V4 will be more efficient
Interesting I am making an "I9 desktop" at the moment just got a 11980hk on a Chinese motherboard for 200ish usd. So I found the title of the video pretty relatable, I am looking forward to this one. Edit I cant believe this cpu matches my r9 5900x in my main desktop in civ 6, I cant figure out why it performs so badly it stays sub 72c at 140 watts in cinebench r23 on 2 x 16gb ddr4 3600 cl18 ram, disabling a ccd didn't help.
It might be the ram. 3600cl18 is bad for ryzen. Get aida 64 or intel memory latency checker. Then check your memory latency, that’s ryzen’s weakness. Faster ram will lower your memory latency to ~55ns. I would try to run it at 3600cl14-14-14 and tune your subtimings. Mainly trfc and trefi
@@ilovehotdogs125790 system won't post with any subtimings changed unless I crank voltage, I have a kit of 3200 cl16 lying around but that is basically the same stuff. Cheap ram is cheap but the good stuff is significantly more expensive. Is it worth pumping 1.5 volts to hit cl14 as I would guess that's the amount I would need?
@@ilovehotdogs125790 3600 cl14 costs 430 nzd for the cheapest 2 X 16gb kit, 3600 cl18 is 130 and I got mine for 120 on sale. Edit stock timings cl18-22-22-42 Tried cl18-18-18-42 at 1.4 volts no post I don't think cl14 is happening lol Edit 2 maybe my undervolted soc is playing a factor stock it's 1v with xmp it's 1.2v and I had it at 0.93v Edit 2 Trying same timings and voltage with stock soc and core failed Edit 3 going to try 1.22v soc 1.45 ram doubt it will work Edit 4 no post going back to xmp with -60mv core and 930mv soc with my motherboards default 140 watt power limit Lol 4.9 GHz didn't do a thing except make my fans go crazy going to try 3ghz and see if I even makes a difference, in fact I got 6.99 seconds
@@ilovehotdogs125790 i don't think it's ram. I updated my bios a while ago and I think it's boosting better I think civ 6 likes clocks. 2667mhz cl20/jdec 91.7ns = 6.98 seconds 3600 cl18/xmp 78.7ns = 6.98 seconds From my other comments I don't think it's possible for me to get any lower as 1.45 volts wasn't enough to drop timings I think it's likely clockspeed related as I found turning off a cc'd in the past did nothing Edit 1 cc'd 3600 cl18 MlC failed Turn time 7.1 seconds So the extra cores are good going to try and make the CPU boost more Pbo +200 MHz gives same result trying 4.9ghz all core didn't help Dropping graphic setting did help 6.95 seconds on low dx12 Vs 6.98 max settings going to try out dx 11
⚠NOTE: The V4s have their own independent turbo clock speeds with AVX & non-AVX workloads when compared to the V3s where if even 1 core is doing AVX workload, all cores will downclock to the AVX turbo values.
These are still great CPUs, mainly thanks to cheap Chinese motherboards to put them in. Would be interested to see how the E5-2643 v3 holds up in comparison
almost decided to buy this cpu. but can't remember why i decided not to. probably because of the pricing at my country at that time and also because of 3.5GHz only and can't be OCed. but i think after that i decided to get 2600x and now i have 5700x. with same mobo as my 2600x. edit : i just checked my local pricing. and yup i think it was the pricing. even now they are still trying to sell this cpu with quite a high price.
Upgraded from the 6800k to the 6950x. With a solid overclock to 4.4GHz it can keep up in all games pretty much. And it can be had for really cheap nowadays. X99 was a good investment back in 2016 ^^
I chose the HuananZhi X99TF (Ver 1 with C612 chipset) and have been quite pleased with its performance. Originally bought it from the a non official site on AliEx and the order was not filled...eventually got a full refund with the AliEx process. I re-ordered through the official HZ site for $100 and received the motherboard in a few weeks. Then...3 months later...the initial "failed" order surprisingly arrived at the door. This was all during 2020 (covid), so I suspect the initial seller had supply chain issues and even failed to communicate/message. In any event, 2 x X99TF for only $100...a nice bargain. Both boards have performed very well...my office system is paired with the E5-2696v3 while the family/home PC is paired to the E5-2678v3.
I had bought a used HP Z440 with an intel xeon E5-2670v3 which has similar (actually slightly weaker) performance compared to 2667v4, even though it was 12 cores 24 threads
I love the old Xeon 26__ series - but have been burnt badly with defective aftermarket motherboards. Which X79 and X99 motherboards have been good for you folks ?
Last year bought e5 2696v3(2699v3 variant which supports both ddr3 and ddr4) 18 core 36 threads 3.8ghz, wtih turbo boost mod all cores will hit 3.8ghz. Paid 100eur used it as backup pc with rtx 3080 and it was rock solid. Also turbo boost mod works only on x99 v3 xeons, not v4
@@IcebergTech definitely do Turboboost bios mod, though i am not familiar with branded board bios mod, Miyconst did tons of reviews and tutorial about all xeons with all chinese motherboards and he even had too, where you pick motherboard(chinese only) and tool would generate bios which was tested with applied mod and undervolt values. I used huanan x99 bd4
Yes, but quad channel memory in the Xeon makes them so different. Overclocked i9 may come close. Still think the versatility of the Xeon and the pcie lane advantage is what convinced me and perhaps others to go Xeon. However, I’m not a gamer. Price performance metric at least I’ll go used Xeon.
Most of the wattage on xeons is on the memory controller not the compute part, e5 2643 v4 is better for games high bandwidth to memory on fours sticks ,with any xeons you use Load reduced dimms otherwise it clock down, use a 2689v4 higher base clock but not all boards support it, and cooler has to be good the max Cpu temp is 72oc. And 52oc on tcase or ihs
Even being older and having much less multi-threaded performance per core, it still beats the single-threaded performance of my i5-7400. That's impressive.
Just bought one of these mate, unfortunately the mobo I ordered was broken (lga 2011 v4) how ever I noticed the pin layout is different from the cpu? Are their unused contacts in the bottom of this cpu?
It would have been interesting to see the i9 9900k tested against the Xeon ES 2667 V4. BTW what memory speed did you use on the Xeon? i9 9900KS is a great CPU, I loved the KS variant but what is quite amazing is in testing a 13900k with ecores turned off and DDR5 7200 Mts is up to 58% faster than the 9900K with DDR 4000 MT/s. I measured this in both low and high core utilization. Very impressive the Intel leap 9th Gen to 13th Gen.
There is a bios hack or something for e5-2699v3, which allows it to turbo to 3.6 ghz on all 18 cores, and this cpu is 30 USD on ebay. I think I might pick it up later for my x99 render machine I'm building.
@@pepingsclips7977 still procrastinating that build because I'm running a 1080 ti with a 14700k, but I imagine it would be pretty power hungry, but considering it wouldn't be rendering 24/7 it probably wouldn't be too bad for me.
@@slerpn I did a tedious research server cpu should consume less power since it is built to run 24/7 in contrast with the concept built to run faster with high power for performance optimization, but I believe it really does consume less power.
Pro tip: Dont install valorant or anything from riot games as their "anticheat" has litteral spyware and has admin level access to you system (if you install) also the game is shit just play cs
@@waldfruchttee I'm afraid corporate mandates you remove the rootkit cheat prevention systems before you are allowed to use your computer. Under section 4, article 16, page 460, line 10, you can, and are, terminated. Good day.
Wait.... You ran the V4 chip with non ECC ddr4?! I was told u need Ddr4 ecc to run V4 chips. Sitting on the 2660V3 with turbo unlock was thinking about the 2667v4 but didnt want to downgrade my ram to 2133mhz ddr4 ecc.
Some of the engineering & qualifying samples on AliExpress say they only work with ECC RAM, and I guess it's possible some of the 2011 v3 Huanazhi etc. boards might not support non-ECC. Probably worth checking before you invest, but yeah... this was regular non-ECC DDR4. Also, v4s don't have a turbo unlock option. Not a big deal with chips like this one as it's only a 100MHz difference, but if you were hoping to run a 22-core 2699 v4 at 3.6GHz, I don't think it's possible.
@@dexsters5643 I don't want to sound like an authority on this, I have zero experience with Machinist, but every source I've checked suggests that MB should be fine with dekstop RAM.
just 2 weeks ago snagged another good old 1231v3 Xeon (the budget i7 4770) for just 10$ on the local used market and gifted it to my friend to replace his i5 4460
didn't fx 8000 get the most votes on your poll of "which cpus would you like to see me cover next"? i guess you just had this video in the works before that and that's why you put it in the poll? 🤷
Yes, and it lost! Convincingly! My videos take a fair amount of planning and prep, so it's going to be a while, but an FX video is coming eventually...
7:19 "I was one frame short of a diabolical coincidence" HAHAHA This man's jokes are severely underrated. He might be a dad, but these definitely aren't dad jokes.
I still remember the i9-9900K because it was the only good chip from that lineup. 9th gen Core has the 9700K which is the worst i7 of all time (no hyperthreading).
I had a 9700k it was a beast but you are right in the end. If I had got a 9900k instead, I wouldn't have had to upgrade to a 13700k because of exactly your point... hyper threading. By the time I realized my mistake, the 9900k prices were out the roof. Then it only made sense to upgrade the platform entire instead paying a fortune to get a 9900k and stay on a quickly aging generation.
@@saricubra2867 I wouldn't go as far irrelevant. If you have a Zed motherboard for socket 1151 or 1200 the older i9's are excellent choices still. What good is that 5900x without a motherboard? With that logic the 12700k and 12900k are all irrelevant because of the 13700k. Even as a 13700k owner , I don't agree with that logic.
@@saricubra2867 The 12700k is irrelevant from your argument and so is the AMD platform. Watt performance? That's your argument on leading edge CPU's? Come on man... I expected better than that. You think 100 watts here or there makes a negative performance difference on the top end? Hope I don't trip my breakers with this 12900k 2.0. That big 300 watt CPU draw!! As people sit next to their 1500 watt office space heater! LOL
From a gaming stand point the 2667v2 x79 variant was is better. X99 gaming you want the 1650v4 or 1680v4. May even be good to get the 2699v4. Even with the 22 core it still turbo high and maintains solid single core performance.
"Drinks like a fish" is a pretty common expression, though it usually refers to alcohol. On reflection I should maybe have changed it to an electric eel...
sadly as budget oriented gamer with power consumption in mind, this is likely a psss for me, but for use in a office/work PC it might be somethignt to consider, sinec office work type tasks don't usually super stress a CPU. pair it with some ddr4 ecc in quad channel and a rtx 2000 series or rx 5000 series GPU for display needs should make for a souped up office/work use PC. Heck if just needing display out gtx 900 series can still handle that
Wait, the best CPU for X99 (2011v3) isn't the i7-5960X but the i7 6950X. Its even a 10 Core. I was running mine at 4.5ghz all core for the last few years, up till the end of december.
im still going hard with my 3930k :D only 4ghz oc but it works for more than 10 years now, i changed 3 gpus, could do one more gpu change :D still can play everything that i desire, only issue is h265 playback
Brian from Yes Tech City tested the Xeon X 5675 OCd to 4.5 GHz and the 1680 V2 OCd to 4.5 GHz paired with an 3090. I Lookd Up the FPS difference between them at 1440p at it seems, that they have approx. 15 to 20 FPS difference. So when i Look at your Benchmarks, the X 5675 at 4.5 GHz should be nearly at the Same Level as the 1680 V2 or am im wrong.
So in conclusion, is it safe to say that that E5 v4 Xeons with quad channel ram perform at about the same level as 9th gen intel CPU's? And at about the same level as Ryzen 5 gen ...?
Hey Iceberg, You should add Cities:Skylines as a game for CPU testing. Because that game likes really powerful CPU's. I don't see many PC hardware youtubers use that game. So I would really like to see Cities:Skylines :D
The fact you compare it with i9 9900k and didn't even put any stats for it seems out of place, why there's no i9 9900 in the list?
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What are the reasons for using Chinese motherboards instead of buying a cheap, well built, Dell or HP workstation with these parts? As I understand it, the later Xeons can't be overclocked significantly, which would be a reason for buying a Chinese board. When you get from aliexpress these things can be broken or unreliable.
ERRATA:
So, I forgot about the i9-7000 series which came out the year before the 9900K. I'd blame Techpowerup, who don't list it on a search for "i9", but it's my own fault for not double checking on Ark!
Don’t worry, it happens to the best of us
I still use an i9 7900x. But these X299 cpus consume a lot of power, especially when overclocked 👻
Another fault or maybe you didn't know about it is nvidia gpu drivers overhead which affects older CPU's
@@alilokhd4638 No, that’s a conscious decision to keep consistent numbers with the rest of my CPU reviews. I plan on switching to a Radeon for my CPU tests in the future (“season 2”, if you like), but that will also come with a revamp of the benchmark roster.
Incidentally, I talked about driver overhead in my previous video on Friday.
@@IcebergTech i'm new sub on your channel and being watching your content for last 4 days not by upload date but watched a whole lot of them.
Just a note: The i9 9900K was the first i9 CPU released to mainstream desktop. The first i9 CPU released to desktop was the i9 7900X released in 2017 on the X299 platform.
Yeah, my bad. Thanks!
@ZaHandleryzen 9*
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Not winning. i9-7900X isn't mainstream desktop, it's HEDT.
@@devilzuser0050 HEDT means high end desktop technology lmao it's definitely mainstream just like amd threadripper is pretty much the hedt version of ryzen and mainstream version of epyc
NVidia RTX 4060 Ti Drops: I sleep
New Iceberg video on older tech: Wide awake
Same.
Another great video! It’s nice to see how these older systems hold up even today and beyond.
I just built a hp z440 with a E5-2697A and paired it with a gtx 1080. It’s a neat system for the price. Keep up the great work good sir 💪
Joekoch
I did build some E2699 v4 systems, the >4 Ghz CPU's we kept, meant for gaming SIM racing system.
very bad gaming system ! forget overclocking them om fancy for gaming boards, VRM and power issues, boards all failed. You need the Xeon boards for them.
even bottlenecking GTX 1080 ti cards, any PC from that area is better, intel > 6700 !!
OMEN gaming system now, 13th gen intel is 60% faster !
@@lucasrem I gotcha! I understand that too.
They aren’t meant to be pushed to the absolute limits as they are almost at them by default. They are really good mulit-core systems for light/ assorted gaming + workloads. This is even including the gtx 1080/ and 1080ti’s in the systems. They are just good cheaper tinker platforms now.
@@lucasremThey are not bad gaming systems at all. I just paired a measly E5 2630 v4 in a Dell T5810 with a 6700 XT and it rips. For the total price of 400 bucks, there is nothing better.
This channel is so damn good, it's so fun taking a walk down memory lane and how some of these CPUs hold up. It is such a great resource for bang for buck builds
Not for gaming, but if you need cheap workstation for Autodesk etc, E2600 are still very good.
They bottleneck any modern RTX card, so not meant to play games on.
Was hoping to see a vid about this generation of Xeons from you mate, top notch as always 😊
I nabbed a 22-Core E5-2699v4 some time ago for the lucky price of £150, paired it with 64GB of RAM on an Asus Rampage Extreme 10 & had it as a solid secondary PC for things like rendering and restoring data, tho admittedly I intially bought it all because I thought it was cool and justified it with the practical stuff 😂
I got myself a 13900k because "I'm going to do simulations, and I need it". Turns out they require much more knowledge than my uni provides on this level, and I really don't have the time to do it, having to work almost every single day, along with still having to attend uni.
@@nikola12nis Done that, hurt me a lot in my grades. Good luck.
@@Trusteft Thanks. I appreciate it.
I got mine for 25 dollars on Mercari 😅
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Dont forget to take your medication Daniel
the lobotomy starts tomorrow
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I have a system with 2*E5 2696v3, 256gb ram and RTX A4000 (custom cooling). Using it mostly for massive calculations (I'm a scientist). System seriously lacks behind in single core calculations. But if I tried to build smth comparable in parallel calculations from new parts, it will be at least 2-3 times more expensive.
And my friend needed cheap upgrade for the system. 130-140$ for motherboard, 32gb ram and e5 2680v4 is pretty good, I think)
This old CPUs still have their use)
Reckon an AMD phenom will crush it.
turbo unlocked? because those should be fast in those applications
@@nothingiamjustsomekindofdu5744 No, I didn't bother with unlocking turbo. They are too power hungry as for me)
@@РустемСиразов-м9м You want more power, but can't afford to pay for more power?
These xeons are always great when found for cheap prices
I am sucker for cores , I use now 4 core pc (i5 2500k) , and soon I will upgrate my pc , I wanted to but i7 2700k as I play only World of Warships so that is enough , but Cyberpunk 2077 is comming slowly out of Alfa version and I would like to play it , so I considered Ryzen 5 4500 very cheap , but for little bit more there is Ryzen 5 5500 , buy , I admit , I am also alfa nerd , so xeon PC would tickle my ego ...
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el yea I advice u to stay away from anything below haswell (I used to own an ivy bridge) they are simply too outdated, and the ryzen 5 5500 is pretty good cpu for gaming purposes and light production if u can find it around 100$
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el take a look at second hand ryzen combo's in your area. A 3600 + mobo + ram is around $200 were I live and might be a better deal than the 4500
@@adammarcinkowski-ko3el if you can find an x99 board for a reasonable price i would consider it as well. You have many options of cpus that you can choose from. Prior to X299 i've used the X79 platform (E5-2690v2) which can actually handle cyberpunk pretty damn good, so that would also be an option, however your upgrade path is very limited on X79 👻
@@djduckofficial the two chips I've used in x79 were a i7-4930K and e5-2667v2
Finally, a Broadwell Xeon review. Those Broadwell Xeons at 14nm are now dirt cheap, especially the Xeon e5-2680v4, which I am planning to do a build with (maybe even a twin socket monstrocity with all RAM slots populated) so as to have a comically large core count for running demanding professional tasks). Most importantly, they are fully compatible with existing LGA2011-3 motherboards and upgrading from something like a Xeon e5-2620v3 or 2650v3 to a Xeon e5-2680v4 seems like a no-brainer, which would also make the power consumption less ridiculous.
The Broadwell E (as in i7-6950x) is overclockable the Xeons, not.
@@julianfiacconi709 I know. And as alluded to in the video, the Turbo Boost cannot be unlocked on v4 chips because the microcode was patched.
@@one_step_sideways 👍 I have two X99 systems, one with the i7-6950x and the other with the E5-2680 v4 (14c, 28t), two very different systems even though they have the same motherboard Asus X99-A.
@@julianfiacconi709 So, do you think it's worth buying a Xeon e5-2680v4 for $20 (which it sells for now in China including shipping) and 64GB of RAM in quad channel for $80 with a decent motherboard? and most importantly, is it worth building a twin-socket system with two 2680v4s and 128GB RAM (because of how cheap it would be)? I don't really know if I would even be able to use all 28 cores, but I am planning to work with dual-socket systems in the datacenter as an SRE engineer in the near future.
@@one_step_sideways Dual cpu is not necessary. Most deep learning and machine learning is done on the GPU. Yes, I would still recommend an X99 system with a name brand, whether Asus, Gigabyte, AsRock or EVGA, with a 2680v4 or preferably a 2690v4, coupled with an Nvidia RTX a4000 or a4500. Spend your money on the GPU, you can take it with to the next series up. Xeon e5-26xx v4’s are so cheap right now, except the quality mb are still in the 150-200 dollar range on eBay. However, I have moved on to the X299 motherboards and the i9-10980xe, mainly for the AVX512.
In BFV I fixed the "low polygon count" by downloading "nvidia profile inspector" and changing the allowed "cache size" to unlimited.
Once I did that all vehicles and character models started rendering in high quality and no longer looked like models from the early 2000s
Amazing review as always! I have one myself and it's superb ^^
I went for a Xeon 1231v3 over a i7 4790 years ago. Was fantastic. Performance was very close to benchmarks I compared too. However any troubleshooting any game I would get to hear "thats a server cpu, its not made for gaming".
Hopefully people will see the prices of these Xeons and change that attitude. There is genuinely a very good incentive to go Xeon over i7 nowadays.
Just a few days ago I have retired my trusty Xeon e3-1231v3 in favor of a 22C/44T e5-2696v4 that I got of off ebay for about 120 bucks.
hey, we uses same xeon lol
The e5-1660v3 and e5-1680v3 has unlocked multipliers. I have the later and it runs really well.
Would love to see a e5-2696v4 on your chart. It has a decent turbo multiplier and a l3 cache of 55mb
Good video, thank you!
when do you thin intel will come out with the core I11?🤣🤣🤣
Wow I can't believe how good the X79 1680 V2 is performing in some of these games. I used one for about a year, did amazing, but I just managed to get a cheap upgrade at the time. Very impressive for a 2013 processor
I had been running the 1680v2 from mid 2018 - 1Q2023...it was a terrific CPU for the price ($165, at the time), considering I was able to get a used bundle (ASUS P9X79 Pro + 6 pipe Air Cooler + 8x4GB of DDR3 1600 + i7-3820K) for only $220. I then sold off the i7 for $80, so the motherboard was practically free. It paired well with a GTX 1080Ti ( also bought used in 4Q2019, for $350). That used bundle deal made the overall system build cost quite palatable. Dodged the GPU price bullet by a few months, too.
Upgraded earlier this year to E5-2696v3 (Turbo Unlocked with an UV), X99TF, 64GB DDR4, and RTX 2080Ti. A better machine for my use case (mostly productivity, a little gaming). Again, many used components bought locally, save for the CPU off of AliEx ($46) and a new X99TF ($50...that was a deal). Given the RTX 2080TI only cost me $220 (after selling off the Strix waterblock for $50) and the 64GB of DDR4 was $80, the upgrade was relatively inexpensive.
Would be very interesting to see how well these xeons can be undervolted.
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You should try old X99 board, Xeon E26xx
They all have voltage and VRM issues, unable to run them any stable on gaming demands, meant for other uses.
only enable 4 cores on 4.2 Gz, 1.4 volt, or it's too hot, voltage spikes, throttles.
@@lucasrem I've got an e5 2680 v2 running stable at 3.6 all cores and boosting to 4.2 all cores it rook some time to get it going smoothly but after two evenings of tuning voltages and durations and down clocking ram timings to play well with the 115 bclk over clock she is solid and don't go over 58 degrees on a heavy load of cinebench r23 for an hour I've got this same 2667 he is using haven't played with seeing how far I can push it though trying to find another Asus p9x79 ws pro board for it but since these chips got cheap the mother boards got expensive
@@lucasremSeems like either you have faulty boards or don't know what you're doing. I suspect the latter, sadly.
nice, entertaining yet again. need more of them xeons. i only have 1 cpu for my x99 classified but im hoping to try out some xeons ib the future.
i have the older brother to this one, the xeon e5-2667v2 (only $20). It served me quite well but it was eventually time to upgrade to a new platform
Old Net/Sys Admin here. Getting ready to retire my used Xeon system I built back in early 2016. It runs 24/7 as my server and desktop. My specs are similar to yours. Except I used an AsRock X99 MB and a Xeon E5-2658v3 (almost dead even with the 2667 in multi-threaded performance). I picked up the 2658 for $180 at that time. It's been a great system. But now... I'm going Ryzen with triple the performance and a lower TDP.
I've recently found your channel and am loving this content. My first PC was around this era and it's a really cool way to look back and see everything else that existed alongside the mainstream desktop platforms. I look forward to seeing more from your channel.
Ha noticed my friends channel at 1:55 in your RUclips search! He’s got lots on xeons and x99 stuff! Loving your content so far cheers from Down Under mate 🍻
My Homeserver is still 2011V3 based.
I use a Supermicro X10SRL-F Motherboard, a E5 2640V4 (10Core/20Thread) and a Quad Channel Ram kit with 4x8gb, 32gb in total. Absolutely overkill for what i use it for😄
What about power consumption? I wonder if such a sweet system actually costs more when you consider a years electricity. Why supermicro instead of dell r/t or hp z workstations and servers?
Love waking up to a new Iceberg video. Makes my morning!
I'd love to see a video on the E5-1660 v4. Give it an overclock and pair it with a decent quad channel ram kit clocked as high as the memory controller will allow and it could be a high ranker on the list!
A Brazilian guy did this comparative and the 2667 V4 was better in every game tested ;)
I've been running one of these for about the last 14 months and I am very happy with it. I was able to build a system with this (E5-2667v4) and 64GB of DDR4-2400 in quad channel in a Dell Precision Tower case for about $200, plus one of those Chinese mobility RTX 3060m miner cards for another $175 and a PCIe-NVMe adapter board and 1TB SSD for another $75 for an all-in cost of right around $450. Considering the performance I get from that system and the absurd amount of RAM, I think you'd be hard-pressed to make an affordable system that can game perfectly at 1200p (my preferred resolution) that can beat it. I even run a dedicated server on half the cores and memory when I play one of my games with my friends and have no issues.
Hi iceberg, could you please try and make a video on the Radeon VII gpu? Since it has 16 gigs of vram it would be very interesting.
Would love to! No promises, but I'm keeping an eye out for a good deal on one
@@IcebergTech absolutely awesome!
Is it the last hbm vram gpu?
@@patlotpotlot6154 I'm pretty sure there have been some workstation and datacentre cards with HBM2 since then, but I don't recall any consumer GPUs with HBM2 since the Radeon VII. I might be wrong, though.
@@IcebergTech run a Radeon vii in my system. Non oc’d performance is very acceptable for 1440 applications. Obviously can’t do ray tracing but I have no complaints. Does really well in vr as well.
I had 9900K. Amazing CPU and yes it did feel overpowered for anything I did. Then again got Core i5 13600KF and it wipes the floor with 9900K
I don’t understand why intel’s old flagship is still expensive even though it was released years ago
Intel is the Apple of the windows world, overpriced and holding value because... Yeah Idk fanboys maybe?
@@thetaxikab604ikr, ryzen 3700x is like 5% slower than a 9900K while being way cheaper and u have an upgrade path to 5800X3D or 5950X
@someguywithmtndew5691 yeah no lmao
Way more than 5% performance difference there.
@@patlotpotlot6154 because it can be an upgrade path for those who took the lower tier processor of the same platform without changing the whole cpu and motherboard
I think you should cover the Xeon E3-1270 V5. It has a decent boost clock and can be paired with cheap workstation boards.
The E5-2667 V2 is still a beast as well in 2023!
I’m a i9 9900K happy owner🥳
I'm in the middle of throwing together an HP Z640 for light gaming and some other stuff. I opted for the E5-2690v4 because of its insane value proposition. 14 cores at 2.6ghz for about $40. Slapped 64gb ram and a 2070S in there and I'm happily playing 1440p games at a pretty constant 60fps. Sometimes it's a bit stuttery playing Warthunder at max everything, but not much, and so I had the 2667v4 in mind as a backup. Seems like this video is about to make the price go up though lol.
But before I do that, I ordered a second CPU tray and another 2690v4. Currently waiting for the fan to arrive, and then I'll have 28 cores to mess around with doing I don't even know what.
Props for the detailed benchs and the killer dark synthwave soundtracl (sounds like Dance with the dead)
I love your videos, and how they cater for the budget spectrum of things, unlike LTT and others, thank you.
This is still an awesome CPU 😊
i just got a mobo and cpu combo of this coming in the mail now. I got it the cpu and x99 lga 2011 mobo for $77 CAD. The cooler was $40 CAD separate. Pretty good performance for cheap.
The 5775C was a great processor too from the same processor core family, but only 4 cores 8 threads.
The secret sauce?
The 128MB of L4 cache
If you dont want a Xeon, you could get an i7-5960x for around the same price, but be aware, this is on the older haswell architecture and an older node, yes you can overclock it, but the 2667V4 will be more efficient
Interesting I am making an "I9 desktop" at the moment just got a 11980hk on a Chinese motherboard for 200ish usd. So I found the title of the video pretty relatable, I am looking forward to this one.
Edit I cant believe this cpu matches my r9 5900x in my main desktop in civ 6, I cant figure out why it performs so badly it stays sub 72c at 140 watts in cinebench r23 on 2 x 16gb ddr4 3600 cl18 ram, disabling a ccd didn't help.
It might be the ram. 3600cl18 is bad for ryzen. Get aida 64 or intel memory latency checker. Then check your memory latency, that’s ryzen’s weakness. Faster ram will lower your memory latency to ~55ns. I would try to run it at 3600cl14-14-14 and tune your subtimings. Mainly trfc and trefi
@@ilovehotdogs125790 system won't post with any subtimings changed unless I crank voltage, I have a kit of 3200 cl16 lying around but that is basically the same stuff. Cheap ram is cheap but the good stuff is significantly more expensive. Is it worth pumping 1.5 volts to hit cl14 as I would guess that's the amount I would need?
@@ilovehotdogs125790 3600 cl14 costs 430 nzd for the cheapest 2 X 16gb kit, 3600 cl18 is 130 and I got mine for 120 on sale.
Edit stock timings cl18-22-22-42
Tried cl18-18-18-42 at 1.4 volts no post I don't think cl14 is happening lol
Edit 2 maybe my undervolted soc is playing a factor stock it's 1v with xmp it's 1.2v and I had it at 0.93v
Edit 2
Trying same timings and voltage with stock soc and core failed
Edit 3 going to try 1.22v soc 1.45 ram doubt it will work
Edit 4 no post going back to xmp with -60mv core and 930mv soc with my motherboards default 140 watt power limit
Lol 4.9 GHz didn't do a thing except make my fans go crazy going to try 3ghz and see if I even makes a difference, in fact I got 6.99 seconds
@@ilovehotdogs125790 i don't think it's ram.
I updated my bios a while ago and I think it's boosting better I think civ 6 likes clocks.
2667mhz cl20/jdec 91.7ns = 6.98 seconds
3600 cl18/xmp 78.7ns = 6.98 seconds
From my other comments I don't think it's possible for me to get any lower as 1.45 volts wasn't enough to drop timings
I think it's likely clockspeed related as I found turning off a cc'd in the past did nothing
Edit 1 cc'd 3600 cl18
MlC failed
Turn time 7.1 seconds
So the extra cores are good going to try and make the CPU boost more
Pbo +200 MHz gives same result trying 4.9ghz all core didn't help
Dropping graphic setting did help 6.95 seconds on low dx12 Vs 6.98 max settings going to try out dx 11
Now do the 1650v4!
I'll send one across the pond if needed...
can you review the 2696V4, it's 22c/44T is quite interesting
All hail the old Xeons 🙌🙌
⚠NOTE: The V4s have their own independent turbo clock speeds with AVX & non-AVX workloads when compared to the V3s where if even 1 core is doing AVX workload, all cores will downclock to the AVX turbo values.
Really would like to see more power consumption figures, especially with current energy pricing.
These are still great CPUs, mainly thanks to cheap Chinese motherboards to put them in. Would be interested to see how the E5-2643 v3 holds up in comparison
A tuned 9900k 5ghz paired with ddr4 4400mhz still competes neck and neck with ryzen 5000 cpus. Cpu from 2018
almost decided to buy this cpu. but can't remember why i decided not to. probably because of the pricing at my country at that time and also because of 3.5GHz only and can't be OCed. but i think after that i decided to get 2600x and now i have 5700x. with same mobo as my 2600x.
edit :
i just checked my local pricing. and yup i think it was the pricing. even now they are still trying to sell this cpu with quite a high price.
How about a video comparison of the xeon 2643V4 vs xeon 2667V4?
The quality on this channel deserves more subs. I love the approach of less mainstream topic that more normal people will probably encounter.
Upgraded from the 6800k to the 6950x. With a solid overclock to 4.4GHz it can keep up in all games pretty much. And it can be had for really cheap nowadays. X99 was a good investment back in 2016 ^^
I chose the HuananZhi X99TF (Ver 1 with C612 chipset) and have been quite pleased with its performance. Originally bought it from the a non official site on AliEx and the order was not filled...eventually got a full refund with the AliEx process. I re-ordered through the official HZ site for $100 and received the motherboard in a few weeks. Then...3 months later...the initial "failed" order surprisingly arrived at the door. This was all during 2020 (covid), so I suspect the initial seller had supply chain issues and even failed to communicate/message. In any event, 2 x X99TF for only $100...a nice bargain. Both boards have performed very well...my office system is paired with the E5-2696v3 while the family/home PC is paired to the E5-2678v3.
Lmao I love this title (and the channel as a whole)
I like your videos but please reduce the music volume ( mostly the rock). I almost jumped lol
I had bought a used HP Z440 with an intel xeon E5-2670v3 which has similar (actually slightly weaker) performance compared to 2667v4, even though it was 12 cores 24 threads
I love the old Xeon 26__ series - but have been burnt badly with defective aftermarket motherboards. Which X79 and X99 motherboards have been good for you folks ?
Try purchasing retired enterprise grade motherboards instead. They are better quality than the no name boards being made now.
This content is really up my alley. Loving the X99 content!!!
I've been waiting for this...my 2660v3 still holds up and I've thought about upgrading to the 2667v4 but idk
upgrade to overclockable xeon or i7
Last year bought e5 2696v3(2699v3 variant which supports both ddr3 and ddr4) 18 core 36 threads 3.8ghz, wtih turbo boost mod all cores will hit 3.8ghz. Paid 100eur used it as backup pc with rtx 3080 and it was rock solid. Also turbo boost mod works only on x99 v3 xeons, not v4
I'm thinking about picking that one up to review, too 😊
@@IcebergTech definitely do Turboboost bios mod, though i am not familiar with branded board bios mod, Miyconst did tons of reviews and tutorial about all xeons with all chinese motherboards and he even had too, where you pick motherboard(chinese only) and tool would generate bios which was tested with applied mod and undervolt values. I used huanan x99 bd4
Ngl the transition from ms flight simulator to spiderman was pretty cool
If you used i9 in benchmarks too , it would be the best comparison .🤩
Can't afford the real thing 😢
@@IcebergTech me too 🤕😥
Yes, but quad channel memory in the Xeon makes them so different. Overclocked i9 may come close. Still think the versatility of the Xeon and the pcie lane advantage is what convinced me and perhaps others to go Xeon. However, I’m not a gamer. Price performance metric at least I’ll go used Xeon.
"Drinks power like a fish" is great I'm going to be using that
Underrated channel 📣
Love cheap Xeon content! Thank you!
OC this for more performace is a good idea?
And should you test again with 4ghz oc?
wow, this is the earliest I have been watching a recently uploaded video
Most of the wattage on xeons is on the memory controller not the compute part, e5 2643 v4 is better for games high bandwidth to memory on fours sticks ,with any xeons you use Load reduced dimms otherwise it clock down, use a 2689v4 higher base clock but not all boards support it, and cooler has to be good the max Cpu temp is 72oc. And 52oc on tcase or ihs
Used Xeons are lit af and I want to run a server/NAS off of one, it's tough finding IPMI though on the Chinese boards
Even being older and having much less multi-threaded performance per core, it still beats the single-threaded performance of my i5-7400. That's impressive.
Just bought one of these mate, unfortunately the mobo I ordered was broken (lga 2011 v4) how ever I noticed the pin layout is different from the cpu? Are their unused contacts in the bottom of this cpu?
It would have been interesting to see the i9 9900k tested against the Xeon ES 2667 V4. BTW what memory speed did you use on the Xeon?
i9 9900KS is a great CPU, I loved the KS variant but what is quite amazing is in testing a 13900k with ecores turned off and DDR5 7200 Mts is up to 58% faster than the 9900K with DDR 4000 MT/s. I measured this in both low and high core utilization. Very impressive the Intel leap 9th Gen to 13th Gen.
Building a e5 2680 v4 based system really soon, super excited !! 14 bucks for 14 cores :D
There is a bios hack or something for e5-2699v3, which allows it to turbo to 3.6 ghz on all 18 cores, and this cpu is 30 USD on ebay. I think I might pick it up later for my x99 render machine I'm building.
would that consume a lot of power? how's the electric bills?
@@pepingsclips7977 still procrastinating that build because I'm running a 1080 ti with a 14700k, but I imagine it would be pretty power hungry, but considering it wouldn't be rendering 24/7 it probably wouldn't be too bad for me.
@@slerpn I did a tedious research server cpu should consume less power since it is built to run 24/7 in contrast with the concept built to run faster with high power for performance optimization, but I believe it really does consume less power.
First i9 …. im still running the 7980 thats 7 years old by now still holds up
My daily is an i7-6950X, still an absolute beast.
Pro tip: Dont install valorant or anything from riot games as their "anticheat" has litteral spyware and has admin level access to you system (if you install) also the game is shit just play cs
Found the cheater
@@robinpage2730 huh?
@@waldfruchttee I'm afraid corporate mandates you remove the rootkit cheat prevention systems before you are allowed to use your computer.
Under section 4, article 16, page 460, line 10, you can, and are, terminated. Good day.
@ICCUWANSIUT Context?
Wait....
You ran the V4 chip with non ECC ddr4?!
I was told u need Ddr4 ecc to run V4 chips.
Sitting on the 2660V3 with turbo unlock was thinking about the 2667v4 but didnt want to downgrade my ram to 2133mhz ddr4 ecc.
Some of the engineering & qualifying samples on AliExpress say they only work with ECC RAM, and I guess it's possible some of the 2011 v3 Huanazhi etc. boards might not support non-ECC. Probably worth checking before you invest, but yeah... this was regular non-ECC DDR4.
Also, v4s don't have a turbo unlock option. Not a big deal with chips like this one as it's only a 100MHz difference, but if you were hoping to run a 22-core 2699 v4 at 3.6GHz, I don't think it's possible.
@@IcebergTech my plan was to use a X99-RS9 with the 2667v4 non eng. Sample. Soo whats the chance i will be okay with normal DDR4?
@@dexsters5643 I don't want to sound like an authority on this, I have zero experience with Machinist, but every source I've checked suggests that MB should be fine with dekstop RAM.
just 2 weeks ago snagged another good old 1231v3 Xeon (the budget i7 4770) for just 10$ on the local used market and gifted it to my friend to replace his i5 4460
didn't fx 8000 get the most votes on your poll of "which cpus would you like to see me cover next"? i guess you just had this video in the works before that and that's why you put it in the poll? 🤷
Yes, and it lost! Convincingly!
My videos take a fair amount of planning and prep, so it's going to be a while, but an FX video is coming eventually...
7:19 "I was one frame short of a diabolical coincidence" HAHAHA
This man's jokes are severely underrated. He might be a dad, but these definitely aren't dad jokes.
I still remember the i9-9900K because it was the only good chip from that lineup. 9th gen Core has the 9700K which is the worst i7 of all time (no hyperthreading).
I had a 9700k it was a beast but you are right in the end. If I had got a 9900k instead, I wouldn't have had to upgrade to a 13700k because of exactly your point... hyper threading. By the time I realized my mistake, the 9900k prices were out the roof. Then it only made sense to upgrade the platform entire instead paying a fortune to get a 9900k and stay on a quickly aging generation.
@@auntiepha8343 Also, both i9s from 9th gen and 10th gen are irrelevant because the Ryzen 9 5900X and i7-12700K exist as well.
@@saricubra2867 I wouldn't go as far irrelevant. If you have a Zed motherboard for socket 1151 or 1200 the older i9's are excellent choices still. What good is that 5900x without a motherboard? With that logic the 12700k and 12900k are all irrelevant because of the 13700k. Even as a 13700k owner , I don't agree with that logic.
@@auntiepha8343 13700K's perf/watt is a huge downgrade vs the 5900X/12700K that did massive IPC gains when both came out. 13700K is just a 12900K 2.0.
@@saricubra2867 The 12700k is irrelevant from your argument and so is the AMD platform. Watt performance? That's your argument on leading edge CPU's? Come on man... I expected better than that. You think 100 watts here or there makes a negative performance difference on the top end? Hope I don't trip my breakers with this 12900k 2.0. That big 300 watt CPU draw!! As people sit next to their 1500 watt office space heater! LOL
I just grabbed a Xeon E5-2680V4 (14c28t Broadwell, 2.4GHz with boosts to 3.3GHz) for $20USD.
From a gaming stand point the 2667v2 x79 variant was is better. X99 gaming you want the 1650v4 or 1680v4. May even be good to get the 2699v4. Even with the 22 core it still turbo high and maintains solid single core performance.
The quad channel ram makes up for a LOT of clock speed.
WTF its a missed chance, as a budget builder im jealous
This CPU should achieve 66.6 and 69 FPS on cyberpunk instead of 1 frame short
I'm running a 2699V3 with a few bios mods to run 3.2ghz on all cores and runs great though I want to try Starfield I have yet to purchase it
7:51 Wait.. wait.. WTF does "Drinks power like a fish mean?"
I have never heard that expression ever before Iceberg Tech!!😃
"Drinks like a fish" is a pretty common expression, though it usually refers to alcohol. On reflection I should maybe have changed it to an electric eel...
@@IcebergTech It sounded good it just caught me off guard! I thought to myself, did he just say that to see if anyone will even notice?? LOL
Yeah i got the same CPU as shown in the video, for only 10$ and its in a bundle (25 xeon)
sadly as budget oriented gamer with power consumption in mind, this is likely a psss for me, but for use in a office/work PC it might be somethignt to consider, sinec office work type tasks don't usually super stress a CPU. pair it with some ddr4 ecc in quad channel and a rtx 2000 series or rx 5000 series GPU for display needs should make for a souped up office/work use PC. Heck if just needing display out gtx 900 series can still handle that
This is an intel i9, that’s right, we got one!
Wait, the best CPU for X99 (2011v3) isn't the i7-5960X but the i7 6950X. Its even a 10 Core. I was running mine at 4.5ghz all core for the last few years, up till the end of december.
You highlighted the wrong CPU at 7:43. You highlighted the 1680 v2 instead of the 2667 v4
im still going hard with my 3930k :D
only 4ghz oc but it works for more than 10 years now, i changed 3 gpus, could do one more gpu change :D still can play everything that i desire, only issue is h265 playback
How. That CPU would literally bottleneck any GPU more powerful than a 1660
im on 970gtx
@@mit4c Why
@@Grayest_Fox budget baller :))))
The true Iceberg of good old Hardware.
Brian from Yes Tech City tested the Xeon X 5675 OCd to 4.5 GHz and the 1680 V2 OCd to 4.5 GHz paired with an 3090. I Lookd Up the FPS difference between them at 1440p at it seems, that they have approx. 15 to 20 FPS difference. So when i Look at your Benchmarks, the X 5675 at 4.5 GHz should be nearly at the Same Level as the 1680 V2 or am im wrong.
So in conclusion, is it safe to say that that E5 v4 Xeons with quad channel ram perform at about the same level as 9th gen intel CPU's? And at about the same level as Ryzen 5 gen ...?
Hey Iceberg, You should add Cities:Skylines as a game for CPU testing. Because that game likes really powerful CPU's. I don't see many PC hardware youtubers use that game. So I would really like to see Cities:Skylines :D
can you test the E5 2697 V3? a friend of mine that is a X99 enthusiast says is the best Xeon in the lineup because of its TDP
The fact you compare it with i9 9900k and didn't even put any stats for it seems out of place, why there's no i9 9900 in the list?
What are the reasons for using Chinese motherboards instead of buying a cheap, well built, Dell or HP workstation with these parts? As I understand it, the later Xeons can't be overclocked significantly, which would be a reason for buying a Chinese board. When you get from aliexpress these things can be broken or unreliable.
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@@kendoty2463 lol
Socket 3647 has the best bang for buck cpus and still has growth room. I dont know what will take its place eventually.
lol are you high?
i saw like 5 pc's with Xeons in it for the price tag of 90$-150$ which is insanely cheap in my country