@@justincarlmonroy1787 Well, his comment was 4 years ago. Just the same any expensive tech of today is bound to be much cheaper 4 years into the future.
This processor was released in Q3 quarter of 2014, the price $1445.00-$1449.00. Low frequency, the number of cores is equivalent to the latest I9 10900K
Now that you've got a branded motherboard, if you ever get your hands on a 1660v3 I'd love to see a comparison of a good overclock to other options. I had a ryzen 7 2700x to compare it to briefly, and in the benchmarks I ran, the overclocked 1660 came out ahead. I don't have anything else I can directly compare it to. If you're curious about the 2699v3, I briefly had a couple of those. 2x 2650v3 perform almost identical to a single 2699v3 on cpu-z, blender, cinebench r15 and r20 without turbo unlock, so the cores do seem to scale pretty linearly, with the 200mhz lower all core turbo showing itself on the 2650s. 2x 2699v3 was about 80% higher. Unfortunately I can't compare 2x 2678v3 directly, because I had switched that system over to linux before I upgraded to those, but I can compare the blender bmw and classroom render: 2x 2678v3 linux bmw 91s, classroom 280s. 2x 2650v3 windows bmw 170s, classroom 500s. Much bigger difference than I was expecting, not sure how much is due to linux performance over windows.
Thank you for the interesting info. I am aiming to get myself an E5-1660 V3 for testing, but from what I have heard, when overclocked, it beats R7 2700X. I have not tested myself, but others report that Blender performance between Windows & Linux is significantly different, thus I would not directly compare such results.
great video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have 1 important question... If I buy this cpu for my server usage (Install PROXMOX)... will I still able to enable the Turbo Boost? meaning that can I enable turbo boost in the bios ?
So far there is no way to "enable" turbo boost unlock in the BIOS, you have to install an EFI driver which loads into the system at boot time, but I am investigating the Proxmox subject.
@@Miyconst Good to know that you are looking into Proxmox. I am also planning if I should invest in a similar setup for setting up a Proxmox virtualisation test bed. However, I read from somewhere that these Chinese X99 motherboard with the E5 26xx V3 CPU has some stability issue in running Proxmox. It is what may me sitting at the fence. It would be great if you would share your investigation result on using this x99/XEON combo for running Proxmox.
@@Miyconst BIG THANK YOU ! for looking into PROXMOX !!!! if it is possible to enable turbo boost for my PROXMOX setup, then these GPU is definitely a go for me !
@@Miyconst I saw a post on your blog where a user was able to convert the .efi driver to .ffs and then add it to the bios instead of having to add it to the efi shell. As long as the bios flash has enough storage, this could be done to every x99 motherboard in theory
Hey dude, I have a question, please answer this :(, Do used a CPU cooler with the socket LGA 2011 -3? Or the CPU cooler is a socket LGA 2011? My problem is that I can put a CPU cooler LGA 2011 in a motherboard and CPU with the socket LGA 2011-3? Thanks
Mister, sorry for this, but I have another question, the thing is I was looking for a motherboard x79, but I heard that the motherboards x79 have problems with the Sleep Mode and the Smart Fan. However, I found a Huananzhi x79 deluxe and is a motherboard x79 with a orange and black colors. My question is this motherboard (Huananzhi x79 Deluxe) have all the problems (Sleep Mode and Smart Fan) resolved? I know you have a couple motherboards of Huananzhi, that is why I come here again, Thanks first of all
Hi Ignacio. As far as I know, that orange Huananzhi X79 Deluxe has working sleep mode and smart fan. You can use Google Translate and read about it here: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011/motherboards/huanan-x79-deluxe-gaming-series/
Could you please show the metatrader test methodology? I have an 2630v2 and would like to perform the same test here and compare with your results. Thank you in advance for your awesome channel!
@@Miyconst Ok! Thank you for the answer. I understand that is private information! I'm thinking of ordering an 2678v3+x99-TF for better performance and I have been watching your channel because of the very detailed analysis and good comparison between CPUs and motherboards. Your work is great!
@@Miyconst Thanks. What do you recommend between X99 + 4 channels DDR3 and X99 + 2 channels DDR4 ? Which brand of each type can be bought in confidence ?
Hi @Miycont, have you measured the idle power usage of the E5-2660? I was planning to get one for a server that might run 24/7 to for several things, i hoped if the single core performance is good enough, i can virtualize Windows 10 and passthrough my GPU and replace my i5-4750. But since this server runs 24/7, i am looking for results of he idle power usage, otherwise i would get low power E5-2630L and dedicate the server for Proxmox and just leave my gaming server seperated (i leave it off/suspended while inactive, and wake remotely with a Magic Packet via LAN). Like, problem is that almost everyone compares the theoretical TDP or max usage and just gives guesses, i have not been able to find any actual tests... Idle = boot Windows (without internet so updates don't mess up stuff) and log off (no user tasks that get in the way), turn off monitor and leave system for about a minute, check power meter and see average Watt. Do this for multiple CPU's with differing amount of cores, maybe do this multiple times and you got it. Power consumption measure device costs nearly nothing, just plug PC's power in it works, be sure to get a reliable one though (both cheap and expensive can be reliable or unreliable), some bad ones can give bad results. I wonder if i should seperated my gaming server anyway though, since RTX GPU's use 10-20 Watt idle... based on what a energy supplier said in my country in Europe, every 40 Watt increase on a server that runs 24/7 may a additional €0.25 per day/€91,25 per year.
@@Miyconst Hello, thank you for your reply, i have attempted to find your test results on your website or RUclips channel, or by simply searching for power usage, consumption, E5-2660 V3, but i was unable to find them, just benchmarks and unlocking Turbo boost when used with X99 boards (i'm using a 2011-3 board). Could you give me link to the video or webpage, were you might have posted the measurements on? Btw, still wondering if i should have just got a Asrock Rack X470D4U and a Ryzen 5 3600, non-reg ECC is quite a bit more expensive though, also wondering if Asrock Rack's are even as reliable as Supermicro's boards, i read they apperently have bad documentation for the ECC support and updates come late, but i read some people using them for their FreeNAS systems and they work fine? Though, i suppose a 3600 would probably give way better gaming performance in a virtualized Windows 10 and passthrough 2080 Super, the mATX Asrock Rack board would also allow smaller cases, like the Fractal Node 804, but i am a little more focused on reliability in case of sudden failures that might cause corruption (since foremost it's for RAIDZ2) i would think Supermicro boards combined with certified Registered 16GB DDR4 RAM and a Xeon are safer? Maybe combining a gaming rig (that probably benefits more from single core performance) together with FreeNAS/Proxmox and pfSense server (which benefit more from multi-core and low idle power) might be a bad idea?
@@funnyarc As I said in the previous comment, I did not measure the power consumption of E5-2660 V3, sorry. My rule of thumb is very simple: go for Ryzen if you can afford it.
@@Miyconst In your previous comment, you wrote 'i did measure' instead of 'i did not measure' so i thought you did test the idle consumption... For this comment, yes, i did decide to go for Ryzen, since everything it appears to be better for me. Btw, i did find another website that has tested this motherboard with a 16c32t E5-2698 V3 and 2 SSD's, apparently idle power usage hovered a little under 50 Watt with (not sure, he said ESXI with Ubuntu and Server 2012). www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x10srh-cln4f-review-sas3-hba-4x-lan/ Is already quite good, Ryzen would probably be better, but E5 2000 V3 series Xeon does not give bad results at all.
@@funnyarc sorry, it was my bad, the previous comment was written with a cell phone, and these devices tend to "auto correct" a bit too much. I have tested power consumption with E5-1660 V3 overclocked to 4.3 GHz, 32 GB RAM, a couple of SSDs, and a GPU, the idle power consumption was less than 50 Watt, so it's pretty much in line with the servethehome.com results.
you think that Machinist x99 RS9 can be used with xeon e5 2660v3 or he is very strong for this motherboard? i mean use with unlock but to be safe i know that work but i don't want explode my vrm lol what you think?
@@Miyconst nice im with e5 2640v3 at moment and was thinking and get 2660v3 maybe next year but after see your vid i think that not worth because they have little diference for playing my pc had a good airflow with 8 cooler my e5 2640v3 in full load stay around 50 °C max and below of 50 playing
E5 2673 v3 over e5 2678 v3? I am thinking about going for it for gaming. My reasoning is higher turbo frequency and single threading is better even if by a little. I plan to use the matx killisre x99 mobo with it. Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Thankyou.
@@Miyconst Thanks for the input. I'm still in the process of researching xeons for something where I can game and also do something else on another monitor. For around $90 or less on aliexpress but who knows.
hi dude, nice video! i have a xeon 2660v3 with a huananzhi x99 f8 motherboard, i dont know how i can overclock my cpu.. can you help me with some tips?
You cannot overclock Xeon E5-2600 CPUs, but with Xeon E5-2600 V3 you can perform a thing called "Turbo Boost Frequency unlock", watch my other video for more information: ruclips.net/video/YymioiX9SFg/видео.html
How will it perform without turbo boost and would you recommend doing turbo boost 2660 v3 on machinist x99 z. If yes then how should I do it? I have watched many of your videos but can't decide plz guide
I would definitely apply Turbo Boost unlock with E5-2660 V3 and X99Z, but I would also make sure to have some good airflow over the VRM zone. How - watch this video: ruclips.net/video/AvVceGyyvm4/видео.html
I just received my Kllisre X99 D8 today, testing with a 1620 cpu. for some reason I can't get over 100W and the PS2 mouse port doesn't seem to function. Have you had any similar problems? also bios has ton of options for cpu pch etc... I left all to default for now.
E5-1620 V3 has locked multiplier, it's not possible to overclock this chip, thus the maximum speed is 3.6 GHz, but TDP is 140 W. How do you know that it doesn't go above 100 W? Regarding the PS/2 port - unfortunately, I didn't test it, I don't have what to test with. The stock Kllisre X99 D8 BIOS has shit lots of useless options, but does not have the RAM Timings configuration, that's why I always flash Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on these boards.
@@Miyconst I used Intel Xtreme Tuning application to visualize the power consumption, highest it has gotten till now is only 93W, no thermal or other downclocking is happening according to the intel app. it leaves me confused and wondering about what to try next... oh yeah, gonna try other mouse, though the one I already tried works on other board so... not hopeful.
@@Miyconst it says clock frequency 3.6GHz, for software prime95, and old 3Dmark Vantage benchmark for now. intel xtreme app also says it has stress test but that only makes cpu go to ~60W, so odd.
@@Jim_Bo It's not odd. If the CPU works at 3.6 GHz - all good, it does not have to consume more than 100W. 140W is a theoretical maximum to maintain 3.6 GHz boost frequency as long as possible. ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/82763/intel-xeon-processor-e5-1620-v3-10m-cache-3-50-ghz.html
What about the temperatures between the 2640v3 and the 2660v3? I was decided to go with the 2640v3 but I guess Ill now get the 2660v3, which is only 15€ more...
Do you think there's a combo of Xeon + motherboard from Aliexpress that can reach the performance of Ryzen 7 3700x and Ryzen 9 3900x? I am interested in such a combo if it comes cheaper than used Ryzen + B450 motherboard. I want it mainly for compiling software and secondary for rendering and light gaming. Thanks!
Are these Chinese motherboard compatible with E5 V4 too? I've seen lots of comparisons on the V3 but not on the V4. I remember seeing some mobo vendors declaring compatibility with V4 as well.
did you also undervolt a bit? maybe try -50 , since its a value i have never seen to fail on any xeon i tried and can be used as baselin; it will help 2660 a lot as it is limited by the 105w tdp
Yes, I did undervolt all CPUs, in most workloads all three CPUs were running at their maximum turbo frequency, only Metatrader 5 loads CPUs so hard that even with reducing voltage frequency is dropping a few hundreds MHz.
@@Miyconst how much undervolt on average do you get on v3? Mine are all around -60 / -70 , very very few outsiders. I use Intel xtu Memory stress test for 1 hour to validate the undervolt
@@gabrielecarbone8235 I have tested about 7 different Xeons with reduced voltage, on average, the same as your -65mv, but some unique chips handle -120mv. It also depends on the motherboard used, some Chinese X99 motherboards by default supply excessive voltage, thus higher voltage reduction is possible. On MSI X99A, with BCLK ~105 MHz & x31 memory controller multiplier, only -10mv was stable with my E5-2660 V3.
@@gabrielecarbone8235 Two of my Xeon E5-2650 V2 worked well on JingSha X99 Dual with -120mv offset, probably the board itself supplies excessive voltage, that's why such reduction works. Unfortunately, DDR3 memory is only supported by a few Xeon E5 V3 CPUs.
Xeon E5-2690 V3 is a very interesting option, I was expecting mine to arrive a few weeks ago, but due to the human malware all my parcels are heavily delayed.
@@hornetIIkite3 This is called AliExpress "stupidity", the sellers are simply rising the prices for popular items until no one buys them, after that the prices slowly go down.
Hi again! A pleasure to watch your videos! Do you know if it is possible to unlock the full turbo to all cores with an Asus ROG Strix Gaming X99? I had the chance to buy one for a very low price although I’ve already bought a Huananzhi X99-TF. And I suppose I can do some overclock too! Thanks and regards!
I can't say for sure about the Asus motherboard, but I was able to do the Turbo Unlock with my MSI X99A, instead of the FPT tool I have used MSI BIOS build in feature to flush desired BIOS.
Great video!! Thanks for you time and knowledge. Could you tell me what's the best Xeon 2011 for games (price is not a problem!) in your opinion? Greetings from Brasil!
Today, my E5 2660 v3 step 2 (cpuz) came, tried your turbohack optimized option and got blue screen, also my ssd m.2 doesnt work for some reason. Im sad :(
Great video as a always I just have few questions. Does 2640 v3 supports ram faster than 1886Mhz at all? Does unlocking the turbo reduces the memory overclock options? And would you be willing to do a comprehensive gaming only video with say 20 - 30 games with 1650 v3 4.2Ghz, 1660 v3 overclocked if you have it and Zen CPU's? 😅😅 I could lend you my steam, origin and uPlay if you need it 😊
Hi Adrian. Unfortunately E5-2640 V3 is limited to DDR4-1866 and there is no way to overcome this limitation. Even my MSI X99A SLI Plust cannot overclock RAM beyond the official Intel specification on these locked CPUs. Unlocking Turbo Boost does not affect RAM speed at all. Regarding the gaming benchmark - I would gladly do that, but I own very few games, and can't afford buying RTX 2080 / SUPER / Ti to make the benchmarks more informative. Still, I am working towards increasing my games collection and getting a dedicated GPU for testing.
@@Miyconst I have almost 200 games on steam I will gladly lend you if you want it? I also have most BF games and Far Cry's or both Division add me on steam and I will gladly help out with the games 😊
@@Miyconst Is this compatible with the 2660v3 boost? it's a Huananzhi. Link: pt.aliexpress.com/item/4000481722920.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.7fa33c00TLeWsK&mp=1
Feel free to check out my latest videos where I compared E5-2678 V3 with Ryzen 5 5600X and you will get the idea. In games, E5-2660 V3 will be almost the same as E5-2678 V3.
@@Miyconst imean for your future review of xeon include cheapest bundle mobo & ram . im gonna wait for 10th gen of intel i3 to compare , also cant wait to see future xeons like v4 v5 then maybe that time im gonna build xeon ! more power to keep it btw im from philippines !
@@Miyconst do you think multi cores will benefit in future ? aslo e5 e5-2678 v3 ht off will performe better than 2640v3 ? im kinda dont want ryzen 3 bcoz of multi core for future
@@Miyconst just such tests on the Internet is not so much, and it is interesting to find out what kind of processors without overclocking, for those who do not want to mess with overclocking(like me for example) put and play, there are still people who do not want to overclock, and want to buy-put-use! and for sure, these processors are also good in the stock! and it is a pity that there are no such tests of all the main Xeon E5 v3 processors in stock
Brother, I have seen that the i7 9700k with that rtx 2070S gets less fps than these E5 Xeons, is that possible? Or what factor could have acted on it? I've been watching comparisons and in several games this happens, I'm amazed.
There are many different factors which affect FPS in games. Most likely the i7-9700k tests you watched were conducted with 1440p resolution, while I was testing at 1080p.
@@sebastiancartagena6069 These Xeon CPUs were designed by Intel to be rock solid, work 24/7 and don't experience any crashes, thus you shall not worry about it, unless you get a broken CPU or you apply too high CPU voltage and destroy it overtime. Chinese X99 motherboards may cause stability issues, still Huananzhi / Kllisre / JingSha boards are quite decent, no name (PlexHD) and Machinist X99Z are problematic boards.
@@Miyconst Oh bro, thanks a lot for the information, do you have a contact number? I'm thinking of building a Chinese computer, maybe x79 or x99 and I would like you to help me a little if it's not too much trouble, greetings! what a great job you do!
Go for Ryzen 1600 if you are talking about the AF variant and Xeon E5-2660 V3 if you are willing to implement the Turbo Boost Unlock. The first Ryzen CPUs are really bad in games. I would say: R5 2600 > E5-2660 V3 > R5 1600.
So i bought 2660 v3 turbo unlock to 3.3ghz with atermiter x99... i have rx570 4gb but everytime i play any game it just use like 2-10% of the cpu while gpu at 100% even OCed... that means gpu bottleneck yeah? so my question what the best gpu my cpu can carry? thank you
Non of the Chinese X99 motherboards support BCLK overclocking, thus you can only overclock Core i7 and Xeon E5-1650 V3 / E5-1660 V3. You can watch my reviews for Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-F8 and Kllisre X99 D8 motherboards.
FRIEND CAN I USE THE XEON E5 2660 V3 IN STOCK ON THE KLLISRE X99 V0102 MOTHERBOARD OR I WILL HAVE PROBLEMS IS JUST TO PLAY AND PERFORM FROM SINCE THANK YOU SO MUCH!
a lot of work, too much time for this video of 15 min or less , i appreciate your job and the care with the information correct for make we own decision
@@SkyChurch11 E5-2666 V3 is a ten core CPU with turbo up to 3.2 GHz or 3.5 GHz, different pages provide different specification, currently it costs $130. With this price I see no point in it, E5-2678 V3 with 12 Cores and 3.3 GHz turbo for just $110 is a way better investment.
@@Miyconst E5-2678 V3 cost $130 here in the US, im hesitant about getting it at Ali because of the shipping time and the potential problem if its DOA. But $110 is a good price though. I have Dell T5810 barebone and still not sure if the processor will run on turbo mode.
@@SkyChurch11 I have bought a few dozens of CPUs from AliExpress and didn't get a single dead. X79/X99 motherboards from Ali have way more issues than the CPUs. If you can write modified BIOS onto the Dell motherboard - Turbo Frequency unlock will work.
I would pick E5-2640 V3, but if your work needs the extra CPU cores, then E5-2678 V3 is a better option. I have assembled two workstations with E5-2678 V3 + 32 GB DDR3, both owners are very happy.
for me personally E5-2620 V3 is the best value for the money. but for now I'm stuck with the old X3450 because X99 motherboard is expensive, even though the processor like E5-2620 V3 is cheap.
i see a lot recommend the E5-2660v3 if you also want to game though i would say there is an other variant there that can be interesting to look at and that is the E5-2666v3 it's a bit more rarer but also much more unknown and less people search for it so prices aren't that bad, base clock is 300MHz higher (2.9 vs 2.6) and it turbo's higher (3.5 vs 3.2), but you will need a bit more cooling since it's a 135W chip and not a 105W so might be a problem on chinaboards. want anything faster and your in E5-2687Wv3 land with price and TDP to match (friggin 160W) E5-2663 v3 is also something that can be looked after, it's "in the middle" between 2660 and 2666 on everything though it also lack HyperThreading so "only" 10 cores and threads
As far as I can see, current prices for E5-2666 V3 & E5-2663 V3 are completely unreasonable. If/when the prices go down to something bearable, I will try to get these CPUs for a review.
@@Miyconst I am not sure, how to check post code. But onboard display shows nothing. While Rams i have istalled according to the manual positions for boths cpus. Not sure if updating BIOS can solve the problem. Though Z10pe 16D suppose to support dual cpus anyway. Seperatly both cpus are working fine.
@@kenanshaikh3497 There shall be a small LED indicator with two sections indicating post codes. When the system hangs or fails to boot, there shall be some numbers/letters lighting up. Do you see such? Did you connect both CPU power cables?
Also, what is the CPU reading for both of the CPUs? Since you say that each CPU works separately, can you take a CPU-Z screenshot for each CPU and share it?
@@Miyconst yes i know there is a small analog display, but nothing display there. And yes i have powered both n even interchanged the power cables. Now updating bios and trying again.
6 Cores, 12 Threads, up to 3.2 GHz turbo frequency, what is the point of this CPU if E5-2620 V3 has the same specs with significantly cheaper price tag?
why Cities Skylines dnt have vulkan or dx12 support, like come on there is so many stuff that cpu have to render and we all know dx11 limitation and it is heavy on cpu like so many cpu could get fps boost around 20-30% with proper vulkan or dx12 implementation, i guess their engine is not ready for low level api, im glad ubisoft finally adapting vulkan implementation in their games and both game gain fps boost from vulkan siege and breakpoint
Hopefully the game developers will gather their shit and start to utilize multi-core CPUs properly, it's not just this one game, there are other games which also lag behind.
@@Miyconst yeah brother wish every game optimize as good as re3 and doom eternal. i can play over 150 fps high setting with max texture detail with my 1600 3.9ghz like 90% time and always stay at least above 120 fps, this kind of optimization shows that you dnt need a cpu upgrade very soon, i recently upgrade to a 2060 super under 300$ from a 1050ti even tho my dad didn't want to spend that much lol but i was quite frustrated because i couldn't get 60 fps most of the AAA titles that i always play even low setting like during heavy combat dipping down bellow 50 and sometimes even less was quite annoying for me even tho i have an old 768p monitor lol but dnt feel like want to upgrade my monitor soon because some games im quite cpu bound such as ac odyssey, borderlands 3 even using dx12 cant keep up always 70+ fps even playing lowest setting, idk big game dev like ubisoft, ea why dnt use their brand new aaa title vulkan or dx12 like i was a regular bf5 player and dice dnt even care to give us vulkan support and their dx12 long broken since battlefront 2, i hope upcoming ac and far cry games use vulkan for fuck sake i tasted few games with my new gpu and honestly in far cry 5 and new dawn i cant get solid 60 fps even low setting just fucking amazing, i hate dunia engine so much wish it use vulkan instead of shitty dx11 and as well ac oyddsey but ubisoft dnt care old sp games at all which is sad players like me who prefer sp over mp any day
At 1080p - use anything up to RTX 2070 / RX 5700 XT, at 1440p - up to RTX 2080 Super. Of course, in some games the CPU will struggle to keep up with the GPU, especially in disabled games which use 1.5 CPU Cores, for example Far Cry.
Ryzen 5 3600 is the best for gaming :), but among the Xeon options, E5-2640 V3 & E5-2660 V3 are very decent. I used MSI X99A SLI PLUS to overclock my E5-2660 V3.
used x99 workstation motherboards are going to be better for the price, even after the extra cost of adapters for proprietary connections. HPs are standard form factor, and almost any brand will fit in a normal case with minimal modding. Not to mention that they'll all support quad channel 8 slot memory, ecc ram, dual GPU configs, and PCIE boot drives.
@@kasi7777 According to AliExpress sellers these chips do not work on the Chinese X99 boards. Maybe the sellers were wrong, but I was looking to buy one of these chips, and asked if it would work on Huananzhi / Kllisre motherboard - they said no.
@@Miyconst My Mainboard is MSI Gaming Pro Carbon without any problems, but the UEFI-boot time before Windows is starting takes some time (around 15 seconds). I've done a bunch of tests, maybe it's interesting for you: Base clock = 100 MHz, SVID communication = on CPU-Z (single/multicore): 415/7427 (3,6GHz/3,2GHz) Cinebench (R15/R20): 2424/5212 (3,2GHz/3,0GHz) Base clock = 103 MHz, SVID communication = on CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7540 (3,7GHz/3,4GHz) Cinebench (R15/R20): 2416/5269 (3,2GHz/3,0GHz) Base clock = 100 MHz, SVID communication = off (displaying 1W power consumption in Windows) CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7532 (3,6GHz/3,4GHz) Cinebench (R15/R20): 2616/5451 (3,4GHz/3,1GHz) Base clock = 103 MHz, SVID communication = off CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7464 (3,7GHz/3,4GHz) Cinebench (R15/R20): 2614/5436 (3,4GHz/3,1GHz) Maybe you also have SVID option, the difference between OC BLCK is hardly noticeable then, and NVME is possible at full speed. Cores are undervolted 60mV by the EFI. You can watch my system on userbenchmark, run number 26132072. Please note that most ES (Engineering Sample) CPUs cannot be operated with all-core turbo. Stepping C1/2 is important and can be checked on CPU World com. The Xeon ES-QGN2 has the same stepping as SR1XE (retail). ES-QGEN isn't good enough, at least for the "all-core turbo".
@@tuttocrafting Sorry, I am confused here. x8 cards are backwards compatible with x16 PCI-E slots. If motherboard has three PCI-E x16 slots it's possible to install three devices, the devices can be PCI-E x1, x4, x8, x16.
I landed up with two ebay E5-2687W v3 CPU's which are significantly quicker than the similar 10-Core E5-2650 v3 here. Waiting on my HUANANZHI X99 T8D X99 Motherboard to put those two to work!
@@Miyconst it depends on the chipset of the MB. They make one that does DDR4 and one that does 3. I chose the DDR3 only because I have 8x 16Gb ECC sticks already
@@Miyconst you may in fact be right...which would be a bummer...but why I assumed it would work is because on their specs page under notes they state: "6：X99-T8D, "T" stands for "THREE", which means the motherboard USES DDR3 memory and only supports E5 2629V3/2649V3/2669V3/2696V3/2673V3/2676V3/2678V3" On closer inspection it turns out these specific chips were made for specific customers like Amazon who wanted DDR3 support. What is even more interesting is that most of the chips they mention will support BOTH DDR3 and DD4 apparently...so I am wondering is this is one of those cases where INtel "certifies" the chip to work with X but that it may in fact work with Y. I have found this many times over the years where they claim memory support for say 8Gb but I get it working with 16GB. But you are probably right on this one
@@Miyconst take a look at section 3.3 of this Intel article - even they screwed up it seems: software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/articles/intel-xeon-processor-e5-2600-v3-product-family-technical-overview.html "The ® Xeon® processor E5-2600 V3 product family supports both DDR3 and DDR4 memory"
Depends on your resolution and games. In Far Cry it will bottleneck GTX 1070, in Red Dead Redemption or Battlefield 5 - it will not. I assume you ask about E5-2620 V3 with Turbo Boost Frequency unlocked on all CPU cores.
@@Miyconst I'm noob, so I won't even bother to unlock , because in one of your video you said it's risky. Btw thanks for the reply and the resolution i would be using is 1920x1080. And i want to ask one more thing from you most of the people who watch your review expect CSGO to be in benchmark, so please include them too.
I have plans for 11-11 buy a kit xeon 2660v3 + Machinist K9 + 32gb + M.2 500gb + gtx 1060 6gb for $489 dollars ( in brazil ). in the distant future... a upgrade to an rtx 2070s 🙏🙌
Great vídeo and great tests, but see this site comparing the two cpus (e5-2640v3 and e5-2660v3) that you tested now and shows a good performance difference between several games and please tell me if you really have this difference in fps? pc-builds.com/compare/cpu/0C3/0C9/
In the first test of aida64, my I9 9900K is more than 40,000 points lower than this E5 2660 V3 10C20T server processor. My 9900K just beat E5 2670 8C16T .E5 2670 $1552.00-$1556.00 On sale in Q1 quarter of 2012, discontinued in 2015 32nm 8C16T main frequency 2.6 turbo frequency 3.3 20M cache TDP115W sandy bridge EP architecture
I’m so glad I bit the bullet and gotten myself a 2640v3, motherboard, and 32GB RAM when they were $215. All thanks to your videos!
which motherboard is that
good ones are 97$ cpu is 67$ and 32 gb ddr4 ram is 100$
I bought 2678 v3 and kllisre d8 board with 16 gb ddr4 ram
Dhruva Drhu X99-8M. They took down the listing but this is the store where I got them from:
RE Store
a.aliexpress.com/_d8E9SAE
I bought yesterday, 2660 v3 x99z , 16gb for 160
yo nah were prices this bad💀💀 im abt to buy it for like 60-70$
@@justincarlmonroy1787 Well, his comment was 4 years ago. Just the same any expensive tech of today is bound to be much cheaper 4 years into the future.
This video was VERY well organized. Awesome job.
Love that last graph, make decision so much easier!
Hey youtube algorithm, this guy deserves much more subscribers :)
Thanks Saad!
@@Miyconst No thank you, I almost went with the e5-2650 v3 but then I saw your video and decided to pay a bit more for the e5-2660 v3.
True
Thanks for this benchmark, you got a sub!
Always thanks for ur hard WORK !!!!!!!!!
Very nice work as always ! 👍🏻👍🏻🔥🔥
This processor was released in Q3 quarter of 2014, the price
$1445.00-$1449.00. Low frequency, the number of cores is equivalent to the latest I9 10900K
looking foward to 2660v3 vs 2678v3 (ddr3 if possible)
still waiting for my 2620v3 arrive to compare against r5 1600(AE).
Yeah, if the post would work normally, this comparison would have E5-2678 V3 included.
2678 winner
Your channel is amazing 😍
Top work in the current climate. All the best
Now that you've got a branded motherboard, if you ever get your hands on a 1660v3 I'd love to see a comparison of a good overclock to other options. I had a ryzen 7 2700x to compare it to briefly, and in the benchmarks I ran, the overclocked 1660 came out ahead. I don't have anything else I can directly compare it to. If you're curious about the 2699v3, I briefly had a couple of those. 2x 2650v3 perform almost identical to a single 2699v3 on cpu-z, blender, cinebench r15 and r20 without turbo unlock, so the cores do seem to scale pretty linearly, with the 200mhz lower all core turbo showing itself on the 2650s. 2x 2699v3 was about 80% higher.
Unfortunately I can't compare 2x 2678v3 directly, because I had switched that system over to linux before I upgraded to those, but I can compare the blender bmw and classroom render: 2x 2678v3 linux bmw 91s, classroom 280s. 2x 2650v3 windows bmw 170s, classroom 500s. Much bigger difference than I was expecting, not sure how much is due to linux performance over windows.
Thank you for the interesting info. I am aiming to get myself an E5-1660 V3 for testing, but from what I have heard, when overclocked, it beats R7 2700X. I have not tested myself, but others report that Blender performance between Windows & Linux is significantly different, thus I would not directly compare such results.
I have picked up 2680 V4 - the best price/performance ratio!
great video !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have 1 important question... If I buy this cpu for my server usage (Install PROXMOX)... will I still able to enable the Turbo Boost? meaning that can I enable turbo boost in the bios ?
So far there is no way to "enable" turbo boost unlock in the BIOS, you have to install an EFI driver which loads into the system at boot time, but I am investigating the Proxmox subject.
@@Miyconst Good to know that you are looking into Proxmox. I am also planning if I should invest in a similar setup for setting up a Proxmox virtualisation test bed. However, I read from somewhere that these Chinese X99 motherboard with the E5 26xx V3 CPU has some stability issue in running Proxmox. It is what may me sitting at the fence. It would be great if you would share your investigation result on using this x99/XEON combo for running Proxmox.
@@zoltm I will definitely create a video about Proxmox if there will be enough information to share.
@@Miyconst BIG THANK YOU ! for looking into PROXMOX !!!! if it is possible to enable turbo boost for my PROXMOX setup, then these GPU is definitely a go for me !
@@Miyconst I saw a post on your blog where a user was able to convert the .efi driver to .ffs and then add it to the bios instead of having to add it to the efi shell. As long as the bios flash has enough storage, this could be done to every x99 motherboard in theory
Good job man 👏
have you done a video on the E5 4669 V3?
No, the CPU is ridiculously overpriced at the moment.
Hey dude, I have a question, please answer this :(, Do used a CPU cooler with the socket LGA 2011 -3? Or the CPU cooler is a socket LGA 2011? My problem is that I can put a CPU cooler LGA 2011 in a motherboard and CPU with the socket LGA 2011-3? Thanks
CPU Cooler mounting mechanism is the same for LGA 2011 and LGA 2011-3. If a cooler fits LGA 2011 it will also work with LGA 2011-3.
@@Miyconst thanks dude, I appreciate that, have a good day comrade❤️
Mister, sorry for this, but I have another question, the thing is I was looking for a motherboard x79, but I heard that the motherboards x79 have problems with the Sleep Mode and the Smart Fan. However, I found a Huananzhi x79 deluxe and is a motherboard x79 with a orange and black colors. My question is this motherboard (Huananzhi x79 Deluxe) have all the problems (Sleep Mode and Smart Fan) resolved? I know you have a couple motherboards of Huananzhi, that is why I come here again, Thanks first of all
Hi Ignacio. As far as I know, that orange Huananzhi X79 Deluxe has working sleep mode and smart fan. You can use Google Translate and read about it here: xeon-e5450.ru/socket-2011/motherboards/huanan-x79-deluxe-gaming-series/
Would you do a video on the 2697 xeon cpu along with how well it performs when compared to others
Are you asking about E5-2697 V3 or the vanilla one for the X79 / LGA 2011 platform?
Wowww, Very good!
Could you please show the metatrader test methodology? I have an 2630v2 and would like to perform the same test here and compare with your results. Thank you in advance for your awesome channel!
Sorry, I cannot share the Metatrader test setup, as it was a private test provided by a friend who is a real trader.
@@Miyconst Ok! Thank you for the answer. I understand that is private information! I'm thinking of ordering an 2678v3+x99-TF for better performance and I have been watching your channel because of the very detailed analysis and good comparison between CPUs and motherboards. Your work is great!
Hi,
Great job. Please cvan you tell me if you used unlock turbo for the tests ?
Yes, I did, for all CPUs where it's applicable.
@@Miyconst Thanks. What do you recommend between X99 + 4 channels DDR3 and X99 + 2 channels DDR4 ? Which brand of each type can be bought in confidence ?
@@christophejournoud2773 I would go with quad channel DDR3, but forget about confidence whenever you are buying anything from AliExpress.
@@Miyconst Thanks ;-) i think you are right !
Hi @Miycont, have you measured the idle power usage of the E5-2660? I was planning to get one for a server that might run 24/7 to for several things, i hoped if the single core performance is good enough, i can virtualize Windows 10 and passthrough my GPU and replace my i5-4750.
But since this server runs 24/7, i am looking for results of he idle power usage, otherwise i would get low power E5-2630L and dedicate the server for Proxmox and just leave my gaming server seperated (i leave it off/suspended while inactive, and wake remotely with a Magic Packet via LAN).
Like, problem is that almost everyone compares the theoretical TDP or max usage and just gives guesses, i have not been able to find any actual tests...
Idle = boot Windows (without internet so updates don't mess up stuff) and log off (no user tasks that get in the way), turn off monitor and leave system for about a minute, check power meter and see average Watt.
Do this for multiple CPU's with differing amount of cores, maybe do this multiple times and you got it.
Power consumption measure device costs nearly nothing, just plug PC's power in it works, be sure to get a reliable one though (both cheap and expensive can be reliable or unreliable), some bad ones can give bad results.
I wonder if i should seperated my gaming server anyway though, since RTX GPU's use 10-20 Watt idle...
based on what a energy supplier said in my country in Europe, every 40 Watt increase on a server that runs 24/7 may a additional €0.25 per day/€91,25 per year.
I am sorry to say, but I did measure idle power consumption with E5-2660 V3.
@@Miyconst Hello, thank you for your reply, i have attempted to find your test results on your website or RUclips channel, or by simply searching for power usage, consumption, E5-2660 V3, but i was unable to find them, just benchmarks and unlocking Turbo boost when used with X99 boards (i'm using a 2011-3 board).
Could you give me link to the video or webpage, were you might have posted the measurements on?
Btw, still wondering if i should have just got a Asrock Rack X470D4U and a Ryzen 5 3600, non-reg ECC is quite a bit more expensive though, also wondering if Asrock Rack's are even as reliable as Supermicro's boards, i read they apperently have bad documentation for the ECC support and updates come late, but i read some people using them for their FreeNAS systems and they work fine?
Though, i suppose a 3600 would probably give way better gaming performance in a virtualized Windows 10 and passthrough 2080 Super, the mATX Asrock Rack board would also allow smaller cases, like the Fractal Node 804, but i am a little more focused on reliability in case of sudden failures that might cause corruption (since foremost it's for RAIDZ2) i would think Supermicro boards combined with certified Registered 16GB DDR4 RAM and a Xeon are safer?
Maybe combining a gaming rig (that probably benefits more from single core performance) together with FreeNAS/Proxmox and pfSense server (which benefit more from multi-core and low idle power) might be a bad idea?
@@funnyarc As I said in the previous comment, I did not measure the power consumption of E5-2660 V3, sorry. My rule of thumb is very simple: go for Ryzen if you can afford it.
@@Miyconst In your previous comment, you wrote 'i did measure' instead of 'i did not measure' so i thought you did test the idle consumption...
For this comment, yes, i did decide to go for Ryzen, since everything it appears to be better for me.
Btw, i did find another website that has tested this motherboard with a 16c32t E5-2698 V3 and 2 SSD's, apparently idle power usage hovered a little under 50 Watt with (not sure, he said ESXI with Ubuntu and Server 2012).
www.servethehome.com/supermicro-x10srh-cln4f-review-sas3-hba-4x-lan/
Is already quite good, Ryzen would probably be better, but E5 2000 V3 series Xeon does not give bad results at all.
@@funnyarc sorry, it was my bad, the previous comment was written with a cell phone, and these devices tend to "auto correct" a bit too much. I have tested power consumption with E5-1660 V3 overclocked to 4.3 GHz, 32 GB RAM, a couple of SSDs, and a GPU, the idle power consumption was less than 50 Watt, so it's pretty much in line with the servethehome.com results.
you think that Machinist x99 RS9 can be used with xeon e5 2660v3 or he is very strong for this motherboard? i mean use with unlock but to be safe i know that work but i don't want explode my vrm lol what you think?
I would not recommend it if you do some heavy rendering or mining, but for casual gaming with good airflow in the chassis it will be fine.
@@Miyconst nice im with e5 2640v3 at moment and was thinking and get 2660v3 maybe next year but after see your vid i think that not worth because they have little diference for playing my pc had a good airflow with 8 cooler my e5 2640v3 in full load stay around 50 °C max and below of 50 playing
can you make a benchmark with e5-2650 v3 and e5-2650L v3 both with turbo boost ? thanks.
Unfortunately, I don't have these CPUs on hands, but if I manage to get them - I will do the tests.
E5 2673 v3 over e5 2678 v3? I am thinking about going for it for gaming. My reasoning is higher turbo frequency and single threading is better even if by a little. I plan to use the matx killisre x99 mobo with it. Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Thankyou.
E5-2678 V3 is definitely better.
@@Miyconst Thanks for the input. I'm still in the process of researching xeons for something where I can game and also do something else on another monitor. For around $90 or less on aliexpress but who knows.
Hi, i have a question, the e5-2660 v3 can use ddr3? The mobo is the x99 right. i ask because I saw the mobo with ddr4 and another with ddr3.
No. Xeon E5-2660 V3 does not support DDR3 memory.
hi dude, nice video! i have a xeon 2660v3 with a huananzhi x99 f8 motherboard, i dont know how i can overclock my cpu.. can you help me with some tips?
You cannot overclock Xeon E5-2600 CPUs, but with Xeon E5-2600 V3 you can perform a thing called "Turbo Boost Frequency unlock", watch my other video for more information: ruclips.net/video/YymioiX9SFg/видео.html
Yes i did watch that video 5min ago! I do all steps and it works! Thanks bro, u are amazing!
tu a essayer e5 2699 v3 ?
How will it perform without turbo boost and would you recommend doing turbo boost 2660 v3 on machinist x99 z. If yes then how should I do it? I have watched many of your videos but can't decide plz guide
I would definitely apply Turbo Boost unlock with E5-2660 V3 and X99Z, but I would also make sure to have some good airflow over the VRM zone. How - watch this video: ruclips.net/video/AvVceGyyvm4/видео.html
I just received my Kllisre X99 D8 today, testing with a 1620 cpu. for some reason I can't get over 100W and the PS2 mouse port doesn't seem to function. Have you had any similar problems? also bios has ton of options for cpu pch etc... I left all to default for now.
E5-1620 V3 has locked multiplier, it's not possible to overclock this chip, thus the maximum speed is 3.6 GHz, but TDP is 140 W. How do you know that it doesn't go above 100 W? Regarding the PS/2 port - unfortunately, I didn't test it, I don't have what to test with. The stock Kllisre X99 D8 BIOS has shit lots of useless options, but does not have the RAM Timings configuration, that's why I always flash Huananzhi X99-F8 BIOS on these boards.
@@Miyconst I used Intel Xtreme Tuning application to visualize the power consumption, highest it has gotten till now is only 93W, no thermal or other downclocking is happening according to the intel app. it leaves me confused and wondering about what to try next... oh yeah, gonna try other mouse, though the one I already tried works on other board so... not hopeful.
@@Jim_Bo What is the CPU frequency and what you use to apply load on the CPU?
@@Miyconst it says clock frequency 3.6GHz, for software prime95, and old 3Dmark Vantage benchmark for now. intel xtreme app also says it has stress test but that only makes cpu go to ~60W, so odd.
@@Jim_Bo It's not odd. If the CPU works at 3.6 GHz - all good, it does not have to consume more than 100W. 140W is a theoretical maximum to maintain 3.6 GHz boost frequency as long as possible. ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/82763/intel-xeon-processor-e5-1620-v3-10m-cache-3-50-ghz.html
What about the temperatures between the 2640v3 and the 2660v3? I was decided to go with the 2640v3 but I guess Ill now get the 2660v3, which is only 15€ more...
The temperatures are very similar. Something like Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo will be enough.
Do you think there's a combo of Xeon + motherboard from Aliexpress that can reach the performance of Ryzen 7 3700x and Ryzen 9 3900x? I am interested in such a combo if it comes cheaper than used Ryzen + B450 motherboard. I want it mainly for compiling software and secondary for rendering and light gaming. Thanks!
If you have healthy second hand market then B450 + second hand Ryzen is a better option.
Thanks!
Are these Chinese motherboard compatible with E5 V4 too? I've seen lots of comparisons on the V3 but not on the V4. I remember seeing some mobo vendors declaring compatibility with V4 as well.
Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-F8 / X99-8M & Kllisre X99 D8 / X99 D4 are compatible, JingSha X99 D4 is not compatible.
@@Miyconst Thanks a lot!
So with all the cpu out in the market for a z440, wich cpu you recommend?
It really depends on your budget and what you plan to use the PC for.
@@Miyconst Well cpu xeon are old so i dont have plans on spending to much money, but i just need one to 3d modeling, unreal and some gaming.
@@stormk-1130 then just go for a E5-2678 V3 and implement the turbo boost unlock.
did you also undervolt a bit? maybe try -50 , since its a value i have never seen to fail on any xeon i tried and can be used as baselin; it will help 2660 a lot as it is limited by the 105w tdp
Yes, I did undervolt all CPUs, in most workloads all three CPUs were running at their maximum turbo frequency, only Metatrader 5 loads CPUs so hard that even with reducing voltage frequency is dropping a few hundreds MHz.
@@Miyconst how much undervolt on average do you get on v3? Mine are all around -60 / -70 , very very few outsiders. I use Intel xtu Memory stress test for 1 hour to validate the undervolt
@@gabrielecarbone8235 I have tested about 7 different Xeons with reduced voltage, on average, the same as your -65mv, but some unique chips handle -120mv. It also depends on the motherboard used, some Chinese X99 motherboards by default supply excessive voltage, thus higher voltage reduction is possible. On MSI X99A, with BCLK ~105 MHz & x31 memory controller multiplier, only -10mv was stable with my E5-2660 V3.
@@Miyconst had 100 on v4 Xeons never in v3 , but also vrm quality can be issue here , i almost always use x99 DDR3 motherboards
@@gabrielecarbone8235 Two of my Xeon E5-2650 V2 worked well on JingSha X99 Dual with -120mv offset, probably the board itself supplies excessive voltage, that's why such reduction works. Unfortunately, DDR3 memory is only supported by a few Xeon E5 V3 CPUs.
And what do you think about e5 2690 v3? I want to make a dual , greetings from Mexico!
Xeon E5-2690 V3 is a very interesting option, I was expecting mine to arrive a few weeks ago, but due to the human malware all my parcels are heavily delayed.
2678 is better choice bcause of 2690 thermal package
@@cultofsogga5863 E5-2678 V3 is a better choice due to its price.
@@Miyconst i find on AliExpress the 2650 is priced higher than the 2690. How is this possible?
@@hornetIIkite3 This is called AliExpress "stupidity", the sellers are simply rising the prices for popular items until no one buys them, after that the prices slowly go down.
Hi again! A pleasure to watch your videos! Do you know if it is possible to unlock the full turbo to all cores with an Asus ROG Strix Gaming X99? I had the chance to buy one for a very low price although I’ve already bought a Huananzhi X99-TF. And I suppose I can do some overclock too!
Thanks and regards!
I can't say for sure about the Asus motherboard, but I was able to do the Turbo Unlock with my MSI X99A, instead of the FPT tool I have used MSI BIOS build in feature to flush desired BIOS.
Thank you anyway...I’ll search for some info!
Привет, хорошее видео ;)
what's the highest graphics card that the 2650 v3 could benefit from before bottle necking and how does the 2650 compare to a i7 9700?
Probably GTX 1660 / RX 590. E5-2650 V3 is significantly slower than the i7.
Great video!! Thanks for you time and knowledge. Could you tell me what's the best Xeon 2011 for games (price is not a problem!) in your opinion? Greetings from Brasil!
If price is not a problem, then it's E5-1660 V3.
@@Miyconst Ok, Thanks! Can be overclocked like the 1650?
@@DoutorTurbo Yes, but you also need a good branded motherboard for that.
Today, my E5 2660 v3 step 2 (cpuz) came, tried your turbohack optimized option and got blue screen, also my ssd m.2 doesnt work for some reason. Im sad :(
I am sad as well. 😭
@@Miyconst can you please help me? Dont know what to do since i get blue screen :(
@@zKode sure, bring the PC to me and I will try to diagnose it.
2620 v3 is the best nishebrod choice and 2678 v3 for a rich nishebrod)
Well said :D.
по поводу тпд, какая частота при длительных нагрузках устанавливается?
Все залежить від навантаження. Davinci Resolve: 3.3 GHz, Handbrake: 3.3 GHz, Metatrader 5: 3.1 - 3.2 GHz.
I've seen some good prices for Xeon E5-2698 V4 (ES) on ebay and Aliexpress. But I think ES CPUs might not permit turbo unlocking.
All Xeon E5 V4 do not support turbo boost unlock ES/QS/Retail - does not matter, Turbo Boost unlock only works with V3 series.
E5 26xx v3 has turbo boost unlock because of russian hackers
@@cultofsogga5863 If you read the Anandtech forum carefully, you will figure out, that Russians took only part in this "hack".
Could you recommend me a cheap motherboard for e5 2650 v3, preferably from alliexpress
Please watch the LGA 2011-3 section of this video: AliExpress offers Q2-3 2024, LGA2011-3, LGA1700, AM4, AM5, LGA3647, Radeon, GeForce, Ryzen, Core
ruclips.net/video/q5e2d_6w3Qg/видео.html
Great video as a always I just have few questions. Does 2640 v3 supports ram faster than 1886Mhz at all? Does unlocking the turbo reduces the memory overclock options? And would you be willing to do a comprehensive gaming only video with say 20 - 30 games with 1650 v3 4.2Ghz, 1660 v3 overclocked if you have it and Zen CPU's? 😅😅 I could lend you my steam, origin and uPlay if you need it 😊
Hi Adrian. Unfortunately E5-2640 V3 is limited to DDR4-1866 and there is no way to overcome this limitation. Even my MSI X99A SLI Plust cannot overclock RAM beyond the official Intel specification on these locked CPUs. Unlocking Turbo Boost does not affect RAM speed at all. Regarding the gaming benchmark - I would gladly do that, but I own very few games, and can't afford buying RTX 2080 / SUPER / Ti to make the benchmarks more informative. Still, I am working towards increasing my games collection and getting a dedicated GPU for testing.
@@Miyconst I have almost 200 games on steam I will gladly lend you if you want it? I also have most BF games and Far Cry's or both Division add me on steam and I will gladly help out with the games 😊
@@adi6293 that's so nice of you! What is your steam username? Mine: miyconst.
@@Miyconst I've sent you an ivite
@@adi6293 Accepted.
Unlock boost?
Hello, is overclocking or turbo boost(2660 v3) possible on atermiter x99?
Nice video!!!!
It's not possible to overclock Xeon E5-2600 CPUs using CPU clock multiplier. Slight BCLK overclock is only available on the branded motherboards.
@@Miyconst then atermiter is possible?
@@PedroVinicius-fw9fo No. Atermiter is a Chinese no-name motherboard. It's also one of the worst Chinese motherboards.
@@Miyconst Is this compatible with the 2660v3 boost? it's a Huananzhi. Link: pt.aliexpress.com/item/4000481722920.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.7fa33c00TLeWsK&mp=1
How do they stack against modern cpus? Great content, thanks.
Feel free to check out my latest videos where I compared E5-2678 V3 with Ryzen 5 5600X and you will get the idea. In games, E5-2660 V3 will be almost the same as E5-2678 V3.
@@Miyconst thanks a lot! Gonna check for sure.
i wish iknow it earlier , what do you think about ryzen 3 3300x vs e5 v3 ?
also i subscribed
Ryzen 3 3300X is an incredible CPU, if you can afford it - go for it.
please link what mobo you recommend
@@drickph3066 For Ryzen 3 3300X?
@@Miyconst imean for your future review of xeon include cheapest bundle mobo & ram .
im gonna wait for 10th gen of intel i3 to compare , also cant wait to see future xeons like v4 v5 then maybe that time im gonna build xeon ! more power to keep it btw im from philippines !
@@Miyconst do you think multi cores will benefit in future ? aslo e5 e5-2678 v3 ht off will performe better than 2640v3 ? im kinda dont want ryzen 3 bcoz of multi core for future
please could you compare v3 2620, 2640, 2650, 2660, 2670, 2673,.. and others in STOCK
Maybe I could do that, but what is the point of comparing these CPUs in Stock?
@@Miyconst just such tests on the Internet is not so much, and it is interesting to find out what kind of processors without overclocking, for those who do not want to mess with overclocking(like me for example) put and play, there are still people who do not want to overclock, and want to buy-put-use! and for sure, these processors are also good in the stock! and it is a pity that there are no such tests of all the main Xeon E5 v3 processors in stock
@@Acrobat1994 okay, if I run out of subjects for my videos, I will do such comparison.
@@Miyconst ok! thanks!
Brother, I have seen that the i7 9700k with that rtx 2070S gets less fps than these E5 Xeons, is that possible? Or what factor could have acted on it? I've been watching comparisons and in several games this happens, I'm amazed.
There are many different factors which affect FPS in games. Most likely the i7-9700k tests you watched were conducted with 1440p resolution, while I was testing at 1080p.
@@Miyconst Ohhh okay bro, thaks you for this answer
@@sebastiancartagena6069 These Xeon CPUs were designed by Intel to be rock solid, work 24/7 and don't experience any crashes, thus you shall not worry about it, unless you get a broken CPU or you apply too high CPU voltage and destroy it overtime. Chinese X99 motherboards may cause stability issues, still Huananzhi / Kllisre / JingSha boards are quite decent, no name (PlexHD) and Machinist X99Z are problematic boards.
@@Miyconst Oh bro, thanks a lot for the information, do you have a contact number? I'm thinking of building a Chinese computer, maybe x79 or x99 and I would like you to help me a little if it's not too much trouble, greetings! what a great job you do!
@@sebastiancartagena6069 You can mail me to miyconst@gmail.com and there you will get my phone number, not publishing it here.
please have doubts to buy, 2660 v3 vs ryzen 1600 games
Go for Ryzen 1600 if you are talking about the AF variant and Xeon E5-2660 V3 if you are willing to implement the Turbo Boost Unlock. The first Ryzen CPUs are really bad in games. I would say: R5 2600 > E5-2660 V3 > R5 1600.
@@Miyconst thank you, hugs from Brazil.
So i bought 2660 v3 turbo unlock to 3.3ghz with atermiter x99... i have rx570 4gb but everytime i play any game it just use like 2-10% of the cpu while gpu at 100% even OCed... that means gpu bottleneck yeah? so my question what the best gpu my cpu can carry? thank you
I would recommend RTX 2060 Super as the maximum GPU to pair with E5-2660 V3.
@@Miyconst Thank you so much... and your blog is really helpful
Oh and also I wanted to ask you for a link to some motherboard where you can do stable overclocking in x99 and that is economical! Please!
Non of the Chinese X99 motherboards support BCLK overclocking, thus you can only overclock Core i7 and Xeon E5-1650 V3 / E5-1660 V3. You can watch my reviews for Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-F8 and Kllisre X99 D8 motherboards.
@@Miyconst You are the best bro
how did you overclocked Xeon 2660v3?
I didn't overclock it, I applied so called Turbo Boost Unlock hack.
Google says you can't oc the e5 2660 v3 only the v4 so I'm confused bro😂
Don't trust Google.
@Miyconst can you do a tutorial on how to overclock it plz...cause I don't understand these other youtubers😂
турбобуст часто слетает? а то жалуются многие на это
Ні, не часто. Декілька разів трапилося, коли Windows встановила глобальні оновлення, також було декілька разів після синього екрану смерті.
kllisre x99 can run Xeon 2650V3 10c 20t ?
Kllisre is a shop name, it's not a motherboard name, thus I can't answer the questions, but most of the X99 boards would work with E5-2650 V3.
Please can you make a video with these cpus mining cryptocurrency like monero on xmrig ?
FRIEND CAN I USE THE XEON E5 2660 V3 IN STOCK ON THE KLLISRE X99 V0102 MOTHERBOARD OR I WILL HAVE PROBLEMS IS JUST TO PLAY AND PERFORM FROM SINCE THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Yes, you can 🙂.
@@Miyconst thanks my friend Very good !💪💪💪💪
What is last music song title?
This is an old Ukrainian song called "Їхав козак за Дунай", you can find lots of different versions on RUclips.
a lot of work, too much time for this video of 15 min or less , i appreciate your job and the care with the information correct for make we own decision
Thank you for the nice words!
Does Xeon 2660v3 support memory frequency above 2133MHz?
No, it doesn't.
How about E5-2666 V3? It has a higher frequency.
Could you please share a link where it's available at adequate prices?
Miyconst it is on EBay for $130. It’s a custom processor for Amazon servers.
@@SkyChurch11 E5-2666 V3 is a ten core CPU with turbo up to 3.2 GHz or 3.5 GHz, different pages provide different specification, currently it costs $130. With this price I see no point in it, E5-2678 V3 with 12 Cores and 3.3 GHz turbo for just $110 is a way better investment.
@@Miyconst E5-2678 V3 cost $130 here in the US, im hesitant about getting it at Ali because of the shipping time and the potential problem if its DOA. But $110 is a good price though. I have Dell T5810 barebone and still not sure if the processor will run on turbo mode.
@@SkyChurch11 I have bought a few dozens of CPUs from AliExpress and didn't get a single dead. X79/X99 motherboards from Ali have way more issues than the CPUs. If you can write modified BIOS onto the Dell motherboard - Turbo Frequency unlock will work.
Awesome work Miyconst! Would you recommend the 2640 with 32gb ddr4, or the 2678 with 32gb ddr3 quad channel? Thanks 🙏
I would pick E5-2640 V3, but if your work needs the extra CPU cores, then E5-2678 V3 is a better option. I have assembled two workstations with E5-2678 V3 + 32 GB DDR3, both owners are very happy.
for me personally E5-2620 V3 is the best value for the money.
but for now I'm stuck with the old X3450 because X99 motherboard is expensive, even though the processor like E5-2620 V3 is cheap.
Xeon E5-2620 V3 is undoubtedly the best CPU for its money.
Xeon 2640 v3 vs xeon 2660 v3 qual para jogos
Of course E5-2660 V3 is better.
i see a lot recommend the E5-2660v3 if you also want to game though i would say there is an other variant there that can be interesting to look at and that is the E5-2666v3
it's a bit more rarer but also much more unknown and less people search for it so prices aren't that bad, base clock is 300MHz higher (2.9 vs 2.6) and it turbo's higher (3.5 vs 3.2), but you will need a bit more cooling since it's a 135W chip and not a 105W so might be a problem on chinaboards.
want anything faster and your in E5-2687Wv3 land with price and TDP to match (friggin 160W)
E5-2663 v3 is also something that can be looked after, it's "in the middle" between 2660 and 2666 on everything though it also lack HyperThreading so "only" 10 cores and threads
As far as I can see, current prices for E5-2666 V3 & E5-2663 V3 are completely unreasonable. If/when the prices go down to something bearable, I will try to get these CPUs for a review.
Hi, I install dual e5 2620 v3 on Asus pe10. But Not Booting at all.🙉🙈 Any help. On single cpu it was working fine.
What is the post code? Do you have memory installed for both of the CPUs?
@@Miyconst I am not sure, how to check post code. But onboard display shows nothing. While Rams i have istalled according to the manual positions for boths cpus. Not sure if updating BIOS can solve the problem. Though Z10pe 16D suppose to support dual cpus anyway. Seperatly both cpus are working fine.
@@kenanshaikh3497 There shall be a small LED indicator with two sections indicating post codes. When the system hangs or fails to boot, there shall be some numbers/letters lighting up. Do you see such? Did you connect both CPU power cables?
Also, what is the CPU reading for both of the CPUs? Since you say that each CPU works separately, can you take a CPU-Z screenshot for each CPU and share it?
@@Miyconst yes i know there is a small analog display, but nothing display there. And yes i have powered both n even interchanged the power cables. Now updating bios and trying again.
Opinion on E5 4655 V3 ???
6 Cores, 12 Threads, up to 3.2 GHz turbo frequency, what is the point of this CPU if E5-2620 V3 has the same specs with significantly cheaper price tag?
why Cities Skylines dnt have vulkan or dx12 support, like come on there is so many stuff that cpu have to render and we all know dx11 limitation and it is heavy on cpu like so many cpu could get fps boost around 20-30% with proper vulkan or dx12 implementation, i guess their engine is not ready for low level api, im glad ubisoft finally adapting vulkan implementation in their games and both game gain fps boost from vulkan siege and breakpoint
Hopefully the game developers will gather their shit and start to utilize multi-core CPUs properly, it's not just this one game, there are other games which also lag behind.
@@Miyconst yeah brother wish every game optimize as good as re3 and doom eternal. i can play over 150 fps high setting with max texture detail with my 1600 3.9ghz like 90% time and always stay at least above 120 fps, this kind of optimization shows that you dnt need a cpu upgrade very soon, i recently upgrade to a 2060 super under 300$ from a 1050ti even tho my dad didn't want to spend that much lol but i was quite frustrated because i couldn't get 60 fps most of the AAA titles that i always play even low setting like during heavy combat dipping down bellow 50 and sometimes even less was quite annoying for me even tho i have an old 768p monitor lol but dnt feel like want to upgrade my monitor soon because some games im quite cpu bound such as ac odyssey, borderlands 3 even using dx12 cant keep up always 70+ fps even playing lowest setting, idk big game dev like ubisoft, ea why dnt use their brand new aaa title vulkan or dx12 like i was a regular bf5 player and dice dnt even care to give us vulkan support and their dx12 long broken since battlefront 2, i hope upcoming ac and far cry games use vulkan for fuck sake i tasted few games with my new gpu and honestly in far cry 5 and new dawn i cant get solid 60 fps even low setting just fucking amazing, i hate dunia engine so much wish it use vulkan instead of shitty dx11 and as well ac oyddsey but ubisoft dnt care old sp games at all which is sad players like me who prefer sp over mp any day
Which is the graphic card to this PCUs
At 1080p - use anything up to RTX 2070 / RX 5700 XT, at 1440p - up to RTX 2080 Super. Of course, in some games the CPU will struggle to keep up with the GPU, especially in disabled games which use 1.5 CPU Cores, for example Far Cry.
Miyconst thanks a lot
Hi, is E5 2660 v3 the best for gaming?
Ryzen 5 3600 is the best for gaming :), but among the Xeon options, E5-2640 V3 & E5-2660 V3 are very decent. I used MSI X99A SLI PLUS to overclock my E5-2660 V3.
Thanks I'm considering a msi x99s gaming 7
what do you think about 2673? is it better than 2660?
to game.
Can it turbo boost from 2.4 to 4.0? is it possible?
There is no way either of these CPUs will Turbo Boost to 4.0 GHz. In general, E5-2660 V3 is a better option for gaming.
overclocked = unlocked TB?
No. All CPUs were tested with Turbo Boost Unlock, but E5-2660 V3 was also tested on an MSI X99 motherboard with BCLK = 105 MHz.
And Hi from Kazakhstan)
Hi back to Kazakhstan.
used x99 workstation motherboards are going to be better for the price, even after the extra cost of adapters for proprietary connections. HPs are standard form factor, and almost any brand will fit in a normal case with minimal modding. Not to mention that they'll all support quad channel 8 slot memory, ecc ram, dual GPU configs, and PCIE boot drives.
It would be nice if you could define the "better" meaning. Better in quality? Definitely. Better in performance? Unlikely.
nice video!!! but it was good if you compared the 3 cpu's VS one ryzen 3700x or i9 9900k just to see the diference against a "new" cpu's
I am working on it. Having an i9-9900k + expensive GPU lying around for the sake of testing is not that cheap.
@@Miyconst buy it now. U got the £😁
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З ума-розуму звела!
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Thanks
Another CPU for comparison in this family: Haswell Xeon E5-2698 V3, CPU-Z: 403 Single-Core, 7183 Multi-Core, BCLK=100 MHz.
You forgot to mention that it costs €430 😂.
@@Miyconst It cost me € 180 on eBay, but it's an ES QGN2. It already has stepping C1, so All-Core-Turbo is possible.
@@kasi7777 According to AliExpress sellers these chips do not work on the Chinese X99 boards. Maybe the sellers were wrong, but I was looking to buy one of these chips, and asked if it would work on Huananzhi / Kllisre motherboard - they said no.
@@Miyconst My Mainboard is MSI Gaming Pro Carbon without any problems, but the UEFI-boot time before Windows is starting takes some time (around 15 seconds). I've done a bunch of tests, maybe it's interesting for you:
Base clock = 100 MHz, SVID communication = on
CPU-Z (single/multicore): 415/7427 (3,6GHz/3,2GHz)
Cinebench (R15/R20): 2424/5212 (3,2GHz/3,0GHz)
Base clock = 103 MHz, SVID communication = on
CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7540 (3,7GHz/3,4GHz)
Cinebench (R15/R20): 2416/5269 (3,2GHz/3,0GHz)
Base clock = 100 MHz, SVID communication = off (displaying 1W power consumption in Windows)
CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7532 (3,6GHz/3,4GHz)
Cinebench (R15/R20): 2616/5451 (3,4GHz/3,1GHz)
Base clock = 103 MHz, SVID communication = off
CPU-Z (single/multicore): 417/7464 (3,7GHz/3,4GHz)
Cinebench (R15/R20): 2614/5436 (3,4GHz/3,1GHz)
Maybe you also have SVID option, the difference between OC BLCK is hardly noticeable then, and NVME is possible at full speed. Cores are undervolted 60mV by the EFI. You can watch my system on userbenchmark, run number 26132072.
Please note that most ES (Engineering Sample) CPUs cannot be operated with all-core turbo. Stepping C1/2 is important and can be checked on CPU World com. The Xeon ES-QGN2 has the same stepping as SR1XE (retail). ES-QGEN isn't good enough, at least for the "all-core turbo".
I have a new test for the Chinese mainboards: pcie bifurcation with passive rizers!
Mining with GPUs has lone gone, thus it's more like a scientific test, but I will keep it in mind.
@@Miyconst I don't care about mining. My idea is for HBAs. Most of the Chinese MB have a single x16 pcie slot.
@@tuttocrafting Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-F8 and Kllisre / JingSha X99 D8 all have 3 PCI-E x16 slots.
@@Miyconst yes you're right. But HBAs are x8. So you loose half on the lanes.
@@tuttocrafting Sorry, I am confused here. x8 cards are backwards compatible with x16 PCI-E slots. If motherboard has three PCI-E x16 slots it's possible to install three devices, the devices can be PCI-E x1, x4, x8, x16.
Can you test Battlefield 3?
This is a quite old game, I could imagine testing BF4, but BF3 is rather pointless at this moment.
Miyconst A lot of people play it still same with BF4. Test BF4 then.
@@SiqFix Okay, I will try to add BF4 into my list of tested games.
Miyconst thank you 🙏
good jop i will order 2660 v3 you give me what i want i thank you bro
i got an 2690v3 for arround 200 bucks, my best decision so far ^^
E5-2690 V3 is an awesome CPU, but $200 is a bit too much for it.
I landed up with two ebay E5-2687W v3 CPU's which are significantly quicker than the similar 10-Core E5-2650 v3 here. Waiting on my HUANANZHI X99 T8D X99 Motherboard to put those two to work!
Are you sure that E5-2687W works with DDR3 memory? As far as I know it supports only DDR4.
@@Miyconst it depends on the chipset of the MB. They make one that does DDR4 and one that does 3. I chose the DDR3 only because I have 8x 16Gb ECC sticks already
@@TheDesertsweeper As far as I know, Xeon E5-2687W V3 does not support DDR3 memory, it only works with DDR4, I might be wrong though.
@@Miyconst you may in fact be right...which would be a bummer...but why I assumed it would work is because on their specs page under notes they state: "6：X99-T8D, "T" stands for "THREE", which means the motherboard USES DDR3 memory and only supports E5 2629V3/2649V3/2669V3/2696V3/2673V3/2676V3/2678V3" On closer inspection it turns out these specific chips were made for specific customers like Amazon who wanted DDR3 support. What is even more interesting is that most of the chips they mention will support BOTH DDR3 and DD4 apparently...so I am wondering is this is one of those cases where INtel "certifies" the chip to work with X but that it may in fact work with Y. I have found this many times over the years where they claim memory support for say 8Gb but I get it working with 16GB. But you are probably right on this one
@@Miyconst take a look at section 3.3 of this Intel article - even they screwed up it seems: software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/articles/intel-xeon-processor-e5-2600-v3-product-family-technical-overview.html
"The ® Xeon® processor E5-2600 V3 product family supports both DDR3 and DDR4 memory"
Will a e5 2620 v3 bottleneck gtx 1070 ?.
Please tell me.
Depends on your resolution and games. In Far Cry it will bottleneck GTX 1070, in Red Dead Redemption or Battlefield 5 - it will not. I assume you ask about E5-2620 V3 with Turbo Boost Frequency unlocked on all CPU cores.
@@Miyconst I'm noob, so I won't even bother to unlock , because in one of your video you said it's risky.
Btw thanks for the reply and the resolution i would be using is 1920x1080.
And i want to ask one more thing from you most of the people who watch your review expect CSGO to be in benchmark, so please include them too.
@@mkhan8167 CS:GO is a free to play game, I will add it to the benchmarks list.
@@Miyconst thanks to lot means a lot to me. 😖
Nice
2021 49e for a 2660v3
thanks i was thinking to buy an e5-2650 for gaming, but you chaned my mind and i bought an e5-2640 instead/
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With Turbo Boost Unlock, E5-2640 V3 beats E5-2650 V3 in almost everything.
i could only find the e5 2660 v3 for 92€ on aliexpress
I can find multiple for €80, for example this one: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000265309844.html
intel core i7-6950x + it has the same socket as xeons
I have plans for 11-11 buy a kit xeon 2660v3 + Machinist K9 + 32gb + M.2 500gb + gtx 1060 6gb for $489 dollars ( in brazil ).
in the distant future... a upgrade to an rtx 2070s 🙏🙌
спасибо,
e5 2640 v3 esse sim e bom para jogos ;) tdp mais baixo e bom desempenho
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2620v3 best price-performance ratio
Its between that and the 2678v3 imo
Great vídeo and great tests, but see this site comparing the two cpus (e5-2640v3 and e5-2660v3) that you tested now and shows a good performance difference between several games and please tell me if you really have this difference in fps? pc-builds.com/compare/cpu/0C3/0C9/
This website shows performance without Turbo Boost Unlock, I have tested all CPUs with Turbo Boost unlocked, that is why the results are not the same.
@@Miyconst Yes my friend, but i want your opinion which of these two cpus is really better for games the e5-2640v3 or the e5-2660v3? please
@@ykoeko1064 E5-2640 V3 is a better value for its money.
In the first test of aida64, my I9 9900K is more than 40,000 points lower than this E5 2660 V3 10C20T server processor. My 9900K just beat E5 2670 8C16T .E5 2670
$1552.00-$1556.00
On sale in Q1 quarter of 2012, discontinued in 2015
32nm 8C16T main frequency 2.6 turbo frequency 3.3 20M cache TDP115W
sandy bridge EP architecture