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A Chinese seller on eBay is selling Xeon E5-2687W's for 20 USD. It's the ultimate Sandy Bridge beast: 8 cores and 16 threads, 20MB of L3 cache- clocked at a respectable 3.1GHz base 3.8GHz max turbo. Got a Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 rev. 1.0 for $85 Canadian. Now that's value. Not that I need any of this because I have an AMD Ryzen PC. Still interesting to tinker with, though.
Those chips are not very good for gaming, better for graphic editing. Try a i76850k. Best lga2011-3 cpu for gaming. More core doesn't really matter when it comes to games. 4-8 core is all you need.
I'm pretty glad you took the time to bring the topic for discussion again! And I'm grateful because you also gave us some great value choices to consider for each platform. I've been pretty attached to view the Xeon ecosystem as MB+CPU combos for so long that I wasn't aware of the decent value proposition of the CPUs mentioned here. It's certainly true that a Ryzen rig is now the default to-go price/performance platform in developed countries, but as a resident of an emerging economy country I can assess that Xeons can still compete price wise with the AMD offerings under the right circumstances. Thanks a lot for all the insight provided on this channel about Xeon builds! Have an amazing time this New Year's Eve and I wish you the best for this 2022. Best regards.
Awesome video I just got the E3-1241 v3 for $37. A nice and noticeable upgrade from my i3-4170. Cinebench r23 went from 2086 multi / 881 single to 4350 multi / 948 single. I highly recommend these older xeons, they're so cheap now and the performance is still pretty good.
You have a good point on the naming 🤣 But great overview, really glad to see someone still values Xeon CPU’s when it comes to old systems or low to mid range gaming pc’s!
I bought a Xeon bundle from Ali express for 120$ back in 2021. It came with Chinese X99, E5-2640 V3, 16 GB of DDR4 2666MHz. With the help of Tech yes city, I unlocked the turbo to 3.4 GHz from 2.8 max.
Talking about old xeons, I picked up an old sever for running virtual machines. HP DL380 Gen8 2 x E5-2697v2 total 24Cores/48 Threads 384GB-RAM. Haven’t tried playing games on it but tempted to try now just to see what it does.
You're always talking about Xeons in your previous budget build videos, it's great to make some sense of the crazy names. Keep up the awesome work bud!
A year later, this is still good info. FWIW I have been running an HP Z420 with an e5-2680v2 before recently upgrading to an E5-2667 v2, which netted me about a 20% performance improvement according to geekbench 6. However, I also on a lark bought a Ryzen based Beelink SER5 5800H which, according to geekbench, is like 3x faster than my current setup. Great improvement, right? Well, when running the actual stuff I do (like handbrake) the beelinkk was really only about 10% faster than my decade old xeon rig: when running handbrake transcoding a 4K HDR video to 4K smpte601 with h264 encoding, the difference was about 8fps for the beelink compared to 7fps for my xeon setup. And of course, the beelink has very limited expansion capability, so I sold it (for a profit, as I bought the beelink on sale) and am now in the process of building myself ANOTHER z420 workstation, this time with added usb3 ports (fifty bucks for another 6 ports) and a nice rack of drives powering a zfs raid pool. Its amazing what a bargain these old machines are still today. I'm not a gamer, but hoping for more talks like this one I've subscribed. Best wishes.
Ive built one for the fun of it...with xeon 2696 v3 18-core cpu ( that one supports both ddr4/drr3) and 8 sticks of 32gb 1866 server ddr3 ram for 256gb total...Its not very powerful today but its unusual and was fun to build! Ddr3 server ram is almost free compared to ddr4 so thats why i went with ddr3 motherboard version (both are avaliable on da bay)
i think after a long while have i seen a great video and a great guy keep up the good work your channel will pick up dont worry your content is amazing and the later part of the video was exceptional !
These Xeon processors are used in other areas of the world since the import fees for pc parts are astronomical depending on where you live, the x99 community is awesome.
I use xeon cpu since 2011. My first xeon was E5472, second was W3565, third was E5-2690. Now i use xeon W-2195. Xeon is the beast. Xeon, xeon and xeon only.
Really useful info particularly the sources of info. Would love to see some comparison of the budget 4 core 8 thread xeons against the i3-10105f, and the 8 core xeons against the ryzen 1700.
Great video CG 🥰🥳 sorry hear numbers aren’t doing great but like Techtubers, that’s been 2021. Hopefully this New Year being 2022 sees a return of products and tech and in turn, viewers to to your channel. Love the content you do 🥳🎉🥰👍. I’m always watching your episodes and giving a 👍 as well. Bryan at Tech Yes City I think pioneered the Xeon rerelease for many people as they still allow a lot of manual tweaking to gain massive overclocks and tinkerers like me love ‘em 🥰❤ and that’s not something that modern day CPUs can say!
I am currently running a broadwell 6850k, I love this motherboard I have (the x99 taichi my beloved), but I don't know if upgrading the CPU makes any sense, and after looking at the 2011v3 socket cpus its totally overwhelming. Your video was awesome though, I really needed it!
@TheHandsomeLife Alright thanks, I was looking into the 2699 v3 because of some obscure uefi driver "hack" that allowed a full turbo on all cores, but I might stick with the 2687w v4. Thanks for all the info you made everything a lot more clear.
good ole xeons i wish they kept making them for newer consumer platforms but it is wat it is. Dont forget to sub, leave a like, comment and ring that bell also check out chris's video description on where to find him to talk tech ask about pc problems and anything in between hope to see u around
I have an old HP Z440 with a E51620v3, 32 GB ddr4, Quadro K2200, 500gb Samsung 850. $240 Australian. I will upgrade the GPU and PSU. You can go to the V4 range running 2400 rather than 2133 memory. The main reason I bought it is because they are bullet proof. Cool 😎 video.
I just got a Dell Precision and plan on building a budget build with a Xeon and hopefully either a 1080ti and or a Titan X Pascal thatll run some newer games but mainly i play older games
these days i score e5-2699v3's for 50 dollar each and a dual socket x99 board with 2xnvme and everything for 100dollar. also dirt cheap 16gig sticks (8 of them) for like 10-12 each. so for less than 300 i got a 36 core/72 thread with 128gb ddr4 ecc 2133mhz as my unraid server with 2x2tb nvma on the board an an extra 1tb in pcie(the machinist x99 d8 max have 4x16 lans pcie). not needed but i also put in some gtx1080ti's i had laying around and some good wd red and ironwolf disks so total 50tb and parity. great parts for low cost !!
I do have a ryzen pc. But I want a secondary pc and from where I'm from used am4 mobo and used ddr4 ram are still close to brand new prices. These chinese xeon, motherboard, ram combo is still cheaper and a good option for me for a 2nd pc.
The EPYC has much better naming. There are a lot of 1st and 2nd gen EPYC coming out from corporate refresh, with decent performance. Just make sure you don't get the ones vendor locked.
I’ve been looking at some 3ghz 32 core ones for around 400. Can you over clock those? They seem like a really good value but are they actually worth it?
Most x58 era xeons were not unlocked, except for the W3680 and W3690, but that wasn't as big a deal due to the ability to BCLK overclock in those days.
@@CoalitionGaming Yea, just looked up some info. The core ratio/multiplier was not completely locked. The highest value you could set it to was 23 on some of the motherboards and then you would have to increase BCLK.
Right. On the locked ones, you could bring the multiplier down below the locked maximum or up to said locked max, but the actual unlocked ones would understandably let you go above that. It was just nice to have BCLK as an option back in those days. Intel got greedy.
The Xeon W-2400 series is the only other option than non-pro Threadripper for HEDT. I think for the price, getting all P cores with good clocks reminds me of the Core-X days. If only we had more W790 motherboards!
My server runs 2x x5675 and if you use the power performance mode in bios they'll boost clock to over 4.5ghz. Its loud af tho.(Fan speeds) Connected to a SSD raid0. It'll open a dedicated Ark server with crap build everywhere in less than 20secs
running possibly one of those unicorn xeons, coffee lake e-2244g. After looking at ebay to see how much a 2246 (6 core) upgrade would cost, I did the fastest 180 you ever saw.
I love these xeon workstations. I've had a Dell dual quad T5400 running 32gb ddr ecc. Looking to upgrade to Hp dual e5 quads with nvme pcie. Comes with 64gb ddr4. Here in Australia they sell for $500au.
@@CoalitionGaming YUP, you actually said "Haswell"! On screen it was "Nehalem" for v3. You know, I usually use 1,75 speed, so I reported what I've read 😅
I literally just built a xeon build as a workstation. 18 cores, 36 threads 64gb of ram. Under 400 bucks. Lol. (Not including case an such. However it's insane how cheap these chips are. An even crazier how powerful they are.
I got the funky 10 core E5 2689 V4 (3.1 GHZ base, 3.8 boost, however it comfortably sits at 3.7 GHZ at 100% load) , basically a nicer version of the i7 6950x (at stock speeds). Haven't regretted it! I do wonder if I would have been better served by the 2699 V4 though, considering I do AI work, video editing, and 3d Rendering in addition to gaming, but I consider this a stopgap upgrade. I bought the cpu so I could more comfortably support a 3090 I got on sale without needing to upgrade my motherboard, cpu, AND RAM.
@@CoalitionGaming 100% I will be giving that and my asrock x99 mobo to my friend when I upgrade. Will be such a massive one from his 4 cores. X99 is a GOAT platform imo.
Hey! I know the video is 1 year old at this point, but i was wondering if you can help me with something. I just recently bought HP Z420 thats going to be my cheap second backup PC (i need it for work) but i also want to game on it from time to time. I have a spare 1660ti to put in it, but i was wondering, what Xeon from V2 series would be best for it? (Z420 i bought already has E5-1650v2 in it, with HP water cooling, and 16gb of RAM) OR, i read some comparisons, do you think a CPU upgrade is needed at all? I seen on different benchmarks, that 1650 v2 is bottlenecking the GPU quite a lot, but im just not sure at this point what should i upgrade it to
That CPU isn't really holding back that GPU, I wouldn't worry about that. I think I said in this video that for V2 my favorite CPU was the e5-2667v2. But if the e5-1650v2 has the clock speed advantage over the e5-2667v2 then that means the e5-2667v2 would hold the GPU back a little more than the e5-1650v2 in gaming.
Hello! I found your video doing research and I have a build I'm working on that maybe you could give some input on. I'm building a SFF server from an HP Elite Desk G5 that currently has a i7-9700KF socket FCLGA1151 (TDP 95w) and would like to upgrade it to the Xeon E-2288G (TDP 95W) for hyper threading and using ECC memory. It uses the same socket. This build is not meant for gaming but rather for media. Does my choice of Xeon make sense? Is there another of that generation you think would be better? Thank you for your time.
I am not entirely sure that CPU will work on that socket since intel changed the way their xeons work on consumer chipsets around that time. I would research to check if anyone else has done that successfully with minimal issues
You can get a i7 6850k that runs on an lga2011-3 socket and will run 4 channels with ecc memory, but will not be able to use the ecc feature. It has 6 cores 12 threads and can run at 4ghz
I just got a free Dell Precision 5810 with a stock e5-1650 v3. I plan on upgrading with an AMX 6600 for some budget gaming. Is it worth upgrading the CPU to a 1660 v4 for 80 bucks or should a just get a higher end v3 like a 2667 or 2687. Like you said, its very overwhelming ahaha.
The e5-2667v4 is probably the best value choice if the motherboard can support it. If you need a little extra frequency for gaming, the 1650 is fine though but the 2667 is a really good all arounder. Also v4 supports ram speed of ddr4 2400, so that could help a little too
@@CoalitionGaming Wow, thanks for such a quick response. I believe I would need to update the bios for this. Is this a complicated process for various machines?
Know the consumer side decently well but server side nothing. Am trying to build a firewall like PFsense with Xenon. The new Intel® Xeon® E-2314 cost around $220. Not sure if I should go for this or the ones you recommend (They all seem to be very old and used) Any help would be great
That's a core2quad Intel isn't it? Might want to look into more modern budget Xeon systems if you can find any cheap secondhand. HP Z440 if possible, if not HP Z420 would be huge upgrades with an E5-2667v4 or E5-1650v4 (z440) or e5-2667v2 (z420).
@@CoalitionGaming i see, as for coolers and graphic cards any idea? I was researching and the 2667 is the best for me, tho i would rather get the 2690 v4, those are good for 3d game dev, streaming and recording/gaming, right? There's a specific motherboard i was looking forward to test with em too, the machinist x99 rs9
Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, ASRock are my usual go-tos. Machinist is fine, but it's more of a Chinese special than a mainstream brand. Have used some like that without issues too though.
I wanted to ask a few questions regarding the new workstation laptop i am testing and soon buying Precision 7730, It has a (Xeon E-217M-2.7ghz), 32gb ram , NVIDIA Quadro P3200 6gb, Is that worth it in 2023? For heavy gaming and editing etc? How old is that technology ?you think i should get some other processor instead ? If yes then which one will support all heavy games and processes around the same price as 217m. And both inside precision line up and outside this lineup. And what performance does this processor lies in? Bcz it has an M in the end. The website says it lies in Mobile category? What is mobile? Whats the difference between a Mobile and workstation? Is a mobile weaker than station? Also in display settings it says its a SDR display which is bad compared to HDR displays
Unless you have examples, links, videos, or benchmarks of other people putting a Xeon in that board, im not sure that generation is compatible. Once socket 1151 came around, things got far more restricted with Xeons in the mainstream socket. The board would need to be a C232 or C236 chipset.
Can you maybe explain the lga 2011 v3 editions? I mean i bought today a weird china board and i dont understand wat it can run it has lga 2011 x99H (as in speccy shown) so dont understand it? Its compaired with an intel xeon E5 2669 V3 bought this for 80 euro thought lets get into it but its so not understandable
Not sure what there is to explain. You can check wiki, CPU world, and Intel ARK for the different xeon V3 CPUs. V3 are haswell-EP CPUs, closely related to what people call 4th Gen Intel core-i series. I'd say the best gaming CPU on that platform is the e5-1650v3 or the e5-1650v4 if you do a bios update to support v4 broadwell CPUs. Mixed use I'd say the e5-2667 v3 or v4 are winners. After that the cores do go up, but the speeds go down dramatically so it depends on what you're doing.
Well so far I had PC's with x5675 and W3680, 1650V2 and now I have and Intel 1680V3 on my X99 platform. They are good and can still be used for gaming but man you need a decent cooling solution for them. Also the price is not worth it, it's worth it only if you can find them cheaper than the Ryzen equivalent, you'll lose quad channel support but hey it's cheaper.
A quick way to get them up and running would be finding a cheap secondhand HP Z840 workstation that has no CPUs. As far mainstream consumer boards, not really familiar with dual socket options.
A Xeon enthusiast claimed that the E5 2697V3 is the best gaming chip on a locked platform like the Z440. 3.6GHz on all 14 cores. 35MB cache. Turn off hyperthreading. Do you believe there is a better option?
@@CoalitionGaming RUclipsrs are widely using the chip at 3.6Ghz all core, but I've just discovered that they are using a microcode mod to to this. Without using such mods, which chip would you say is the best on the platform?
The microcode mod doesnt always work and it isnt for everyone. You're using a fraction of a fraction of the enthusiast PC space as an example which isn't really accurate to real world usage, and that microcode mod also doesn't generally work on locked systems like HP or Lenovo workstations. The E5-1650v4 or E5-2667v4 are my favorite choices for generations you are inquiring about.
You may be able to upgrade if the board has the X99 chipset on it. I purchased a Dell Poweredge 7910 and it came with a 6-core E5-26xx-v3 chip (x 2) but you can upgrade the setup to a E5-26xx-v4 chip. I am currently running a E5-2697-v4 dual chips on the 7910 and the computer screams!! 18 cores x 2 chips and 128 gb of ram. I didn't want to pay the $$$ to get those scalable CPUs and the hardware is much more expensive. I get a Cine Bench score of 27,482 now as opposed to a 8848 with the E5-2620-v3 chips.
Im not seeing amd boards for less than 80 bucks anymore unless ali express . But x99 will come with ram and an ok xeon cpu for that price. Which sucks as I have a spare ryzen cpu and planned on a 50$ board but prices have almost doubled since last year
Interesting. I built numerous Xeon systems using desktop motherboards with only the socket type as my guide; thus, CPU naming schemes has not mattered much to me.
Hi. Can you detailed on which Xeon and their Mobo chipset or series? I want a Xeon, and I want ECC more since it's abundantly cheap and it's safety, but I've never found any desktop Mobo can equipped with it. Also, the drawback of Xeon is it's TDP. Currently, my homelab is 2390T with the famous H61 Mobo, with only 2 slot of dimms DDR3.
There's no reason to chase the "unicorn" Xeon E5 1680 v3. The E5 1660 v3 has the exact same specs (except lower stock clockspeed) and is much cheaper. In the v2 generation, the 1650 and 1660 had six cores (with the 1660 having more L3 cache) while the 1680 had eight cores. In the v3 generation, the 1650 has six cores while the 1660 and 1680 have eight cores and the same amount of L3 cache. As a collector of Intel's HEDT platforms, I still run several rigs with Xeons, including the W3690, E5 1680 v2, and the E5 1660 v3. I love them all!
The parts are old at this point. I would say yes to get the RX 570, but try to get a 1st gen Ryzen system instead if available if not like an i7 4770, i7-3770, or i7-2700/2600 system instead (in that order). Any of those will stomp the i7-930 in performance.
There are low power variants of Xeons, laptop specific variants of Xeons, etc. For pretty much any consumer intel CPU in a laptop, there are Xeon variants out there. Its nothing crazy.
Its good to see you selecting xeon e5-2667 series for computation. Although, i want to make high end workstation with better clock speed & better benchmark. Afters days, i came to select e5-2667 v4. If you are conscious about clock speed & don't want extra cores, thats the right choice.....
I didn't talk to much on v4 CPUs in this video because I hadn't really played with them but if you'd kept up with my content, even just my xeon or HP Z workstation content, you'd know that I finally did play with a v4 platform and was torn between e5-1650v4 and e5-2667v4 on the HP z440 I modded into a gaming PC. Eventually I selected the e5-1650v4 due to it's clock speed advantage for strictly gaming use.
So out of the bunch of info given in here going over the different architecture generations, sockets, naming schemes, and personal favorites....that was your take away? Some people just see what they want to see I guess. Good luck out there, sounds like you'll need it.
Question.?. I ended Buying the Old Dell T7810 16 Core 32 thread Server-- Aka the Beast... for $390 +tax. 🤣😂 Dual (x2) 3.2Ghz 8 Core 16 Thread E5 2667 V4 w/ oem 3.6Ghz max Turbo 32gb RAM DDR4 (2x16gb) 500GB SSD 3TB SATA HD 685w power supply 1GB graphics card Upgrades once I get it.. xD 64gb of 3200mhz DDR4 2TB MVNe/pcie 2TB ssd Drive 8GB EVGA GTX 1070 TI WTF (2x8pin version) But, I like to know What kind of Next Gen X2 Xeon-- I would be able to build, in the Future... with 12 Core or 16+ Cores @ 3.0+ghz.. Even, if they are Way Over Priced-- at the moment. Thanks.
Pretty much any V4 Xeon should work as long as numbered part of the naming begins with a 2, like the E5-2699v4 which is a 22 core. Probably the highest you can go I think. 2.3ghz base frequency, 3.6ghz boost. Not bad all.
@@CoalitionGaming is there any Xeon Silver or Gold 12 or 16 Cores that run at 3.0ghz or more.?. Compatible with a Dual CPU motherboard. (Buying Newer MB/system is ok) I'm assuming it's the Gen w/DDR4 ram compatible.. Or will I most likely have to build a Single Ryzen 24+Core high preference PC to get 3.0ghz or faster.?. Any insight would be help.. spent alot of time trying to figure it out -- from scratch. XEON Chip model ID's can be quite confusing.. :/
@@CoalitionGaming Yes.. that's ok. Just, needed another computer, right now.. I'm was not sure what kind of (brand) New PC I can Build-- in this Over Priced market & The Launch of the New series Hardware.. when, I discovered this Dual CPU Beast. 😎 there's only the V3 10 Core 3.1ghz (only ddr3) that's bigger but, I choose V4 8 Core for the ddr4 capability.. (for future new build) But, I'm beginning to think a Dual 3.0ghz+ CPU server Build-- like this, is Not going to be possible-- in the Future.. Because, there's No Main Stream Xeon 12+ Core 3.0ghz+ CPU being Sold-- in single or Dual CPU systems.. Currently. Anyways, It's a cheap enough to get Me by until I can figure-out what I really want to Spend my money on.. but, seems it's going to be Hard to beat the Performance of this Beast.. 🤣😂 16 Cores of Pure PoWer!!
there are still dual servers for 1700 dollars and less with 2 CPUs caster a board adapter is available for everything and more built with it with 12 ram connections 2060 rtx new ^^ server google kit with the best stuff to disassemble everything and locked with luck at the driver find software there is also beta bios Rade xmp oc and dual, the strongest up to 4899mhz can be coupled to headpips ^^ only has to pay attention to the selection also who server ram can not be tacked everything without uefi can blow everything up locked if you want you can find everything , or not that's the truth even if they don't have an avx bench doesn't bring much to bandwidth dual lan 10 g 1 a with the right selection or with tripple boards if you can still find something that is all x newer higher what is history of fun I say that too just like I have enough replacement I don't run out
Didn't forget, just wasn't relevant to the video. I only intended to talk about the Xeons from westmere/nehalem/gulftown to broadwell-ep because they are the only ones relevant to buying secondhand for budget gaming rigs. It's what got me into xeons in the first place. Nobody uses Xeon scalable for gaming or content creation 😂
I will not buy a Xeon CPU ever again.... Total waste of Money.... In Dubai they sold to my company a double xeon (48 cores) 192 GB of memory ram and Quadro GPU... Well... It is in the store... Never used... The clock speed is so slow that an i5 intel is much faster... Really a total waste of money... Buy ryzen 5950x...intel 13900k...anything....but not xeon...
The type of Xeon you are talking about are completely different, and completely different use case, than the xeons this video is about. That said, whoever was responsible for spec'ing and procuring the proper equipment needed for the function your company needed doesn't know how to do their job if what you got was not able to do what your company needed.
@@CoalitionGaming Surely you are right but I got such a bad experience that Xeon in my brain sound bad...They promised me extraordinary performance for AutoCAD and Cinema 4D but even though I had 92 Threads the machine was not performing at all because the clock speed was terrible... :(
Yeah thats an unreasonable reason to not like them lol. But they aren't commonly used for gaming/streaming rigs anyways so they aren't something you or anyone will really seek out for general consumer usage anyways so its all good.
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What's wrong with Broadwell, I just bought one? 😟
What do you think about the 2680 V4? 14c/28t
A Chinese seller on eBay is selling Xeon E5-2687W's for 20 USD. It's the ultimate Sandy Bridge beast: 8 cores and 16 threads, 20MB of L3 cache- clocked at a respectable 3.1GHz base 3.8GHz max turbo. Got a Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 rev. 1.0 for $85 Canadian. Now that's value. Not that I need any of this because I have an AMD Ryzen PC. Still interesting to tinker with, though.
Those chips are not very good for gaming, better for graphic editing. Try a i76850k. Best lga2011-3 cpu for gaming. More core doesn't really matter when it comes to games. 4-8 core is all you need.
If I wasn't poor I also would have done it :(
@@manhandler is there any skylake lga1151 cpu that has more than 4 cores ??
I just started looking into it because I saw Ali express selling kits with a mother the couple and 1 stick of ram for cheap
@@manhandlermy brother in christ aint nobody spending 20 times the price of a xeon for a little bit better performance
I'm pretty glad you took the time to bring the topic for discussion again! And I'm grateful because you also gave us some great value choices to consider for each platform. I've been pretty attached to view the Xeon ecosystem as MB+CPU combos for so long that I wasn't aware of the decent value proposition of the CPUs mentioned here. It's certainly true that a Ryzen rig is now the default to-go price/performance platform in developed countries, but as a resident of an emerging economy country I can assess that Xeons can still compete price wise with the AMD offerings under the right circumstances. Thanks a lot for all the insight provided on this channel about Xeon builds! Have an amazing time this New Year's Eve and I wish you the best for this 2022. Best regards.
Great video!
thank you!
Probably the easiest to understand breakdown I have seen on Xeons. Thanks Chris!
Awesome video
I just got the E3-1241 v3 for $37. A nice and noticeable upgrade from my i3-4170. Cinebench r23 went from 2086 multi / 881 single to 4350 multi / 948 single.
I highly recommend these older xeons, they're so cheap now and the performance is still pretty good.
I am running a E3-1246 V3 for about the same price, nice cpu
I just bought a e3 1245 v3 for 30 buck, had a i5 4570 so a significant upgrade
You have a good point on the naming 🤣
But great overview, really glad to see someone still values Xeon CPU’s when it comes to old systems or low to mid range gaming pc’s!
Old systems low to mid? Xeons outperform other cpu's still zith ease.
They just lack the wanted clock speeds of modern cpu's let's say
I bought a Xeon bundle from Ali express for 120$ back in 2021.
It came with Chinese X99, E5-2640 V3, 16 GB of DDR4 2666MHz.
With the help of Tech yes city, I unlocked the turbo to 3.4 GHz from 2.8 max.
Damn that was a lot of information, great video
Thank you!
Talking about old xeons, I picked up an old sever for running virtual machines.
HP DL380 Gen8 2 x E5-2697v2 total 24Cores/48 Threads 384GB-RAM.
Haven’t tried playing games on it but tempted to try now just to see what it does.
Very very helpful in getting me to know my CPU better. I have an Intel Xeon E5-2697 v3
You're always talking about Xeons in your previous budget build videos, it's great to make some sense of the crazy names. Keep up the awesome work bud!
1:50 I am using broadwell. Xeon E3-1285l v4
A year later, this is still good info. FWIW I have been running an HP Z420 with an e5-2680v2 before recently upgrading to an E5-2667 v2, which netted me about a 20% performance improvement according to geekbench 6. However, I also on a lark bought a Ryzen based Beelink SER5 5800H which, according to geekbench, is like 3x faster than my current setup. Great improvement, right? Well, when running the actual stuff I do (like handbrake) the beelinkk was really only about 10% faster than my decade old xeon rig: when running handbrake transcoding a 4K HDR video to 4K smpte601 with h264 encoding, the difference was about 8fps for the beelink compared to 7fps for my xeon setup. And of course, the beelink has very limited expansion capability, so I sold it (for a profit, as I bought the beelink on sale) and am now in the process of building myself ANOTHER z420 workstation, this time with added usb3 ports (fifty bucks for another 6 ports) and a nice rack of drives powering a zfs raid pool. Its amazing what a bargain these old machines are still today. I'm not a gamer, but hoping for more talks like this one I've subscribed. Best wishes.
Ive built one for the fun of it...with xeon 2696 v3 18-core cpu ( that one supports both ddr4/drr3) and 8 sticks of 32gb 1866 server ddr3 ram for 256gb total...Its not very powerful today but its unusual and was fun to build! Ddr3 server ram is almost free compared to ddr4 so thats why i went with ddr3 motherboard version (both are avaliable on da bay)
i think after a long while have i seen a great video and a great guy keep up the good work
your channel will pick up dont worry
your content is amazing and the later part of the video was exceptional !
Thanks!
These Xeon processors are used in other areas of the world since the import fees for pc parts are astronomical depending on where you live, the x99 community is awesome.
great information
I use xeon cpu since 2011. My first xeon was E5472, second was W3565, third was E5-2690. Now i use xeon W-2195. Xeon is the beast. Xeon, xeon and xeon only.
Really useful info particularly the sources of info.
Would love to see some comparison of the budget 4 core 8 thread xeons against the i3-10105f, and the 8 core xeons against the ryzen 1700.
Great video CG 🥰🥳 sorry hear numbers aren’t doing great but like Techtubers, that’s been 2021. Hopefully this New Year being 2022 sees a return of products and tech and in turn, viewers to to your channel. Love the content you do 🥳🎉🥰👍. I’m always watching your episodes and giving a 👍 as well. Bryan at Tech Yes City I think pioneered the Xeon rerelease for many people as they still allow a lot of manual tweaking to gain massive overclocks and tinkerers like me love ‘em 🥰❤ and that’s not something that modern day CPUs can say!
Keep it up you'll get the views you deserve
Great video thank you.
I am currently running a broadwell 6850k, I love this motherboard I have (the x99 taichi my beloved), but I don't know if upgrading the CPU makes any sense, and after looking at the 2011v3 socket cpus its totally overwhelming. Your video was awesome though, I really needed it!
@TheHandsomeLife what about the E5 2699v3 / v4? Would it be worth it for video editing? Or should I get something more modern?
@TheHandsomeLife yeah but the V3 can turbo 3.6 on all cores
@TheHandsomeLife Alright thanks, I was looking into the 2699 v3 because of some obscure uefi driver "hack" that allowed a full turbo on all cores, but I might stick with the 2687w v4. Thanks for all the info you made everything a lot more clear.
good ole xeons i wish they kept making them for newer consumer platforms but it is wat it is. Dont forget to sub, leave a like, comment and ring that bell also check out chris's video description on where to find him to talk tech ask about pc problems and anything in between hope to see u around
Thanks 👍
I have an old HP Z440 with a E51620v3, 32 GB ddr4, Quadro K2200, 500gb Samsung 850. $240 Australian. I will upgrade the GPU and PSU. You can go to the V4 range running 2400 rather than 2133 memory. The main reason I bought it is because they are bullet proof. Cool 😎 video.
I have a p710 With two E5-2697V4 Xeons, 256gb of RAM and a 3060 ti. It cost me Like 800-900€.
I ran a Xeon X5670 tower as my gaming rig for about 7yrs.
nice!
I just got a Dell Precision and plan on building a budget build with a Xeon and hopefully either a 1080ti and or a Titan X Pascal thatll run some newer games but mainly i play older games
@@anthonyk nice!
these days i score e5-2699v3's for 50 dollar each and a dual socket x99 board with 2xnvme and everything for 100dollar. also dirt cheap 16gig sticks (8 of them) for like 10-12 each. so for less than 300 i got a 36 core/72 thread with 128gb ddr4 ecc 2133mhz as my unraid server with 2x2tb nvma on the board an an extra 1tb in pcie(the machinist x99 d8 max have 4x16 lans pcie). not needed but i also put in some gtx1080ti's i had laying around and some good wd red and ironwolf disks so total 50tb and parity. great parts for low cost !!
thanks for the effort
Omg xeons are so intriguing! It's like the other side slightly more unknown side of computers.
I’m about to use a E5 2648L V2 for a low power NAS, thoughts? Ten cores at 2GHZ might be able to get the job done
I think that should be fine. Many NAS CPUs have lower clock that that still
I do have a ryzen pc. But I want a secondary pc and from where I'm from used am4 mobo and used ddr4 ram are still close to brand new prices. These chinese xeon, motherboard, ram combo is still cheaper and a good option for me for a 2nd pc.
Not a video i need. But a video i appreciate.
The EPYC has much better naming. There are a lot of 1st and 2nd gen EPYC coming out from corporate refresh, with decent performance. Just make sure you don't get the ones vendor locked.
I’ve been looking at some 3ghz 32 core ones for around 400. Can you over clock those? They seem like a really good value but are they actually worth it?
2:52 what? I remember them having unlocked core clock multipliers?
Most x58 era xeons were not unlocked, except for the W3680 and W3690, but that wasn't as big a deal due to the ability to BCLK overclock in those days.
@@CoalitionGaming Yea, just looked up some info. The core ratio/multiplier was not completely locked. The highest value you could set it to was 23 on some of the motherboards and then you would have to increase BCLK.
Right. On the locked ones, you could bring the multiplier down below the locked maximum or up to said locked max, but the actual unlocked ones would understandably let you go above that. It was just nice to have BCLK as an option back in those days. Intel got greedy.
Patiently waiting for the X99 Xeon unicorns to surface. 10-14 cores with OC capability goodness
Nice, which ones?
@@CoalitionGaming 1681 and 1696v3.
@@lmaoitsmee18121681 v3 have locked multiplayer
The Xeon W-2400 series is the only other option than non-pro Threadripper for HEDT. I think for the price, getting all P cores with good clocks reminds me of the Core-X days. If only we had more W790 motherboards!
My server runs 2x x5675 and if you use the power performance mode in bios they'll boost clock to over 4.5ghz. Its loud af tho.(Fan speeds)
Connected to a SSD raid0. It'll open a dedicated Ark server with crap build everywhere in less than 20secs
running possibly one of those unicorn xeons, coffee lake e-2244g. After looking at ebay to see how much a 2246 (6 core) upgrade would cost, I did the fastest 180 you ever saw.
whoa nice!
I love these xeon workstations. I've had a Dell dual quad T5400 running 32gb ddr ecc. Looking to upgrade to Hp dual e5 quads with nvme pcie. Comes with 64gb ddr4. Here in Australia they sell for $500au.
Cool video! Actually, in 4:28 you would mean Haswell for Xeon v3, as Nehalem was pre- Sandy Bridge. Cheers, M
That's what I said? Edit: oh oops I wrote it wrong in the image. At least I said it correctly lol
@@CoalitionGaming YUP, you actually said "Haswell"! On screen it was "Nehalem" for v3. You know, I usually use 1,75 speed, so I reported what I've read 😅
@@mark12358 🙏
I literally just built a xeon build as a workstation. 18 cores, 36 threads 64gb of ram. Under 400 bucks. Lol. (Not including case an such. However it's insane how cheap these chips are. An even crazier how powerful they are.
May I know the details of the parts pls
GOD bless you ❤️ you explain so beautifully
I never heard from anyone
I play Starfield on a Xeon from 2010 with constant good frames
I got the funky 10 core E5 2689 V4 (3.1 GHZ base, 3.8 boost, however it comfortably sits at 3.7 GHZ at 100% load) , basically a nicer version of the i7 6950x (at stock speeds). Haven't regretted it! I do wonder if I would have been better served by the 2699 V4 though, considering I do AI work, video editing, and 3d Rendering in addition to gaming, but I consider this a stopgap upgrade. I bought the cpu so I could more comfortably support a 3090 I got on sale without needing to upgrade my motherboard, cpu, AND RAM.
That's a great CPU!
@@CoalitionGaming 100% I will be giving that and my asrock x99 mobo to my friend when I upgrade. Will be such a massive one from his 4 cores. X99 is a GOAT platform imo.
Hey! I know the video is 1 year old at this point, but i was wondering if you can help me with something. I just recently bought HP Z420 thats going to be my cheap second backup PC (i need it for work) but i also want to game on it from time to time. I have a spare 1660ti to put in it, but i was wondering, what Xeon from V2 series would be best for it? (Z420 i bought already has E5-1650v2 in it, with HP water cooling, and 16gb of RAM) OR, i read some comparisons, do you think a CPU upgrade is needed at all? I seen on different benchmarks, that 1650 v2 is bottlenecking the GPU quite a lot, but im just not sure at this point what should i upgrade it to
That CPU isn't really holding back that GPU, I wouldn't worry about that. I think I said in this video that for V2 my favorite CPU was the e5-2667v2. But if the e5-1650v2 has the clock speed advantage over the e5-2667v2 then that means the e5-2667v2 would hold the GPU back a little more than the e5-1650v2 in gaming.
@@CoalitionGaming Thanks for the answer!
Hello! I found your video doing research and I have a build I'm working on that maybe you could give some input on.
I'm building a SFF server from an HP Elite Desk G5 that currently has a i7-9700KF socket FCLGA1151 (TDP 95w) and would like to upgrade it to the Xeon E-2288G (TDP 95W) for hyper threading and using ECC memory. It uses the same socket. This build is not meant for gaming but rather for media.
Does my choice of Xeon make sense? Is there another of that generation you think would be better?
Thank you for your time.
I am not entirely sure that CPU will work on that socket since intel changed the way their xeons work on consumer chipsets around that time. I would research to check if anyone else has done that successfully with minimal issues
You can get a i7 6850k that runs on an lga2011-3 socket and will run 4 channels with ecc memory, but will not be able to use the ecc feature. It has 6 cores 12 threads and can run at 4ghz
there are a few v3 xeons that support waaay cheaper ddr3 ram (E5 2696 v3 being one of them) However most v3 cpus want ddr4.
My favourite for the x99 is the E5 2650 V4 if you allocate more power to the CPU it'll automatically race it's base clock
I just got a free Dell Precision 5810 with a stock e5-1650 v3. I plan on upgrading with an AMX 6600 for some budget gaming. Is it worth upgrading the CPU to a 1660 v4 for 80 bucks or should a just get a higher end v3 like a 2667 or 2687. Like you said, its very overwhelming ahaha.
The e5-2667v4 is probably the best value choice if the motherboard can support it. If you need a little extra frequency for gaming, the 1650 is fine though but the 2667 is a really good all arounder. Also v4 supports ram speed of ddr4 2400, so that could help a little too
@@CoalitionGaming Wow, thanks for such a quick response. I believe I would need to update the bios for this. Is this a complicated process for various machines?
Not usually too complicated
Love my dual e5 v2 2667. Cost me 140 euros mb plus 16 gb ram and cpus included 😁😁
Just what I needed to know - my E5 1620 perhaps is worth gaming on.
Know the consumer side decently well but server side nothing. Am trying to build a firewall like PFsense with Xenon. The new Intel® Xeon® E-2314 cost around $220. Not sure if I should go for this or the ones you recommend (They all seem to be very old and used) Any help would be great
You don't need anything crazy for a pfsense system. People run pfsense systems on old hardware all the time.
I wonder which version is the best, i'm between a xeon and a intel q9450
That's a core2quad Intel isn't it? Might want to look into more modern budget Xeon systems if you can find any cheap secondhand. HP Z440 if possible, if not HP Z420 would be huge upgrades with an E5-2667v4 or E5-1650v4 (z440) or e5-2667v2 (z420).
@@CoalitionGaming i see, as for coolers and graphic cards any idea?
I was researching and the 2667 is the best for me, tho i would rather get the 2690 v4, those are good for 3d game dev, streaming and recording/gaming, right?
There's a specific motherboard i was looking forward to test with em too, the machinist x99 rs9
Any chance you could add chapters to this video?
what motherboard brands do you recommend?
is machinist a good brand?
Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, ASRock are my usual go-tos. Machinist is fine, but it's more of a Chinese special than a mainstream brand. Have used some like that without issues too though.
I know this video is old, but how do higher cache xeons ie e5 2000 series compare to lower cache zeons 1000 series?
Higher cache always better especially if clock speeds are similar or better for the higher cache ones
I wanted to ask a few questions regarding the new workstation laptop i am testing and soon buying
Precision 7730,
It has a (Xeon E-217M-2.7ghz), 32gb ram , NVIDIA Quadro P3200 6gb,
Is that worth it in 2023? For heavy gaming and editing etc? How old is that technology ?you think i should get some other processor instead ? If yes then which one will support all heavy games and processes around the same price as 217m. And both inside precision line up and outside this lineup.
And what performance does this processor lies in? Bcz it has an M in the end.
The website says it lies in Mobile category? What is mobile? Whats the difference between a Mobile and workstation? Is a mobile weaker than station?
Also in display settings it says its a SDR display which is bad compared to HDR displays
pure gaming? you need the highest frequency CPU you can get. That E-217M 2.7ghz Xeon won't cut it.
Hi Great review, could you suggest a Xeon processor to run on a Dell intel Q270 mother board. Cheers
What's the chipset? What's the socket?
@@CoalitionGamingHi LGA 1151 with the 200 chipset series runs DDR4, Cheers
Unless you have examples, links, videos, or benchmarks of other people putting a Xeon in that board, im not sure that generation is compatible. Once socket 1151 came around, things got far more restricted with Xeons in the mainstream socket. The board would need to be a C232 or C236 chipset.
Can you maybe explain the lga 2011 v3 editions? I mean i bought today a weird china board and i dont understand wat it can run it has lga 2011 x99H (as in speccy shown) so dont understand it? Its compaired with an intel xeon E5 2669 V3 bought this for 80 euro thought lets get into it but its so not understandable
Not sure what there is to explain. You can check wiki, CPU world, and Intel ARK for the different xeon V3 CPUs. V3 are haswell-EP CPUs, closely related to what people call 4th Gen Intel core-i series. I'd say the best gaming CPU on that platform is the e5-1650v3 or the e5-1650v4 if you do a bios update to support v4 broadwell CPUs. Mixed use I'd say the e5-2667 v3 or v4 are winners. After that the cores do go up, but the speeds go down dramatically so it depends on what you're doing.
Well so far I had PC's with x5675 and W3680, 1650V2 and now I have and Intel 1680V3 on my X99 platform. They are good and can still be used for gaming but man you need a decent cooling solution for them.
Also the price is not worth it, it's worth it only if you can find them cheaper than the Ryzen equivalent, you'll lose quad channel support but hey it's cheaper.
You can buy a Xeon 5650 for less that 15 Dollars.
And it's possible to overclock it at 5Ghz
Thanks for the content.. ive got 2 x e5-2620 v4 cpu's ..what board would u recommend...ddr4 ..
A quick way to get them up and running would be finding a cheap secondhand HP Z840 workstation that has no CPUs. As far mainstream consumer boards, not really familiar with dual socket options.
What do yall think is better(for EDA tools):
Xeon E2176M
Vs
i7 8850H
Slight edge to the xeon
How do you rate the E51620v2 - 3.70 GHz v 4770 i7 ? I also have a 2690 8 core 16 thread , Which would be the better gaming machine ?
@@pagey007 the 4770 is the better gaming chip out of those choices.
@@CoalitionGaming Cheers , subbed ,,Thanks for the fast reply 🙂
A Xeon enthusiast claimed that the E5 2697V3 is the best gaming chip on a locked platform like the Z440. 3.6GHz on all 14 cores. 35MB cache. Turn off hyperthreading.
Do you believe there is a better option?
E5-2697v3 only has a 3.1ghz all-core turbo so no I wouldn't call it the best gaming chip on a locked platform
@@CoalitionGaming RUclipsrs are widely using the chip at 3.6Ghz all core, but I've just discovered that they are using a microcode mod to to this.
Without using such mods, which chip would you say is the best on the platform?
The microcode mod doesnt always work and it isnt for everyone. You're using a fraction of a fraction of the enthusiast PC space as an example which isn't really accurate to real world usage, and that microcode mod also doesn't generally work on locked systems like HP or Lenovo workstations. The E5-1650v4 or E5-2667v4 are my favorite choices for generations you are inquiring about.
that chat in battlefield one.... LOL
im gaming on a Dell Precision 5810 with a gtx 1650 and a Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2637 v3 . i dont have no idea what i have or even if its upgradable.
what would be an upgrade option for me?
8:01
You may be able to upgrade if the board has the X99 chipset on it. I purchased a Dell Poweredge 7910 and it came with a 6-core E5-26xx-v3 chip (x 2) but you can upgrade the setup to a E5-26xx-v4 chip. I am currently running a E5-2697-v4 dual chips on the 7910 and the computer screams!! 18 cores x 2 chips and 128 gb of ram. I didn't want to pay the $$$ to get those scalable CPUs and the hardware is much more expensive. I get a Cine Bench score of 27,482 now as opposed to a 8848 with the E5-2620-v3 chips.
Intel Confidential and Intel Xeon models with the same part numbers are different beasts as well and brand boards does not like the Confidential ones.
Im not seeing amd boards for less than 80 bucks anymore unless ali express . But x99 will come with ram and an ok xeon cpu for that price.
Which sucks as I have a spare ryzen cpu and planned on a 50$ board but prices have almost doubled since last year
If you're looking at x99 equivalent platform, Z440 boards might be low enough on ebay especially if you use Best Offer
Came here after Nerd on a Budgets video 😂👍
is Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3565 @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz better or GTX 660?
Not sure what you're asking. You are asking if a CPU is better than a GPU. huh?
What about 2699v3?
Good CPU for $45 on eBay right now. Alot of cores with decent clocks.
Interesting. I built numerous Xeon systems using desktop motherboards with only the socket type as my guide; thus, CPU naming schemes has not mattered much to me.
Hi. Can you detailed on which Xeon and their Mobo chipset or series? I want a Xeon, and I want ECC more since it's abundantly cheap and it's safety, but I've never found any desktop Mobo can equipped with it. Also, the drawback of Xeon is it's TDP.
Currently, my homelab is 2390T with the famous H61 Mobo, with only 2 slot of dimms DDR3.
There's no reason to chase the "unicorn" Xeon E5 1680 v3. The E5 1660 v3 has the exact same specs (except lower stock clockspeed) and is much cheaper. In the v2 generation, the 1650 and 1660 had six cores (with the 1660 having more L3 cache) while the 1680 had eight cores. In the v3 generation, the 1650 has six cores while the 1660 and 1680 have eight cores and the same amount of L3 cache.
As a collector of Intel's HEDT platforms, I still run several rigs with Xeons, including the W3690, E5 1680 v2, and the E5 1660 v3. I love them all!
They're great! I have a video coming soon with more!
Is e3 1245 good for gaming
As good as any i7-2600
A+
thanks!
bro do you think this pc worth $250?
asus p6t
i7 930
gtx 760
psu 400w 80+ bronze
hdd 500gb
ram 8gb
im new into pc so i need little bit help 😌
If you're asking but you haven't bought it yet, no.
If you're asking after you've already bought it, yes.
The used PC market is weird right now.
@@CoalitionGaming i can buy the pc without the gpu tho and get a rx 570 4gb,fyi gtx 760 2gb(used) is worth about $125 in my country lmao.
@@CoalitionGaming so what do u think?still a meh or it is a good price?sorry for my bad English
The parts are old at this point. I would say yes to get the RX 570, but try to get a 1st gen Ryzen system instead if available if not like an i7 4770, i7-3770, or i7-2700/2600 system instead (in that order). Any of those will stomp the i7-930 in performance.
So in theory a laptop can use an Intel Xeon CPU given IF the laptop comes with a socketed CPU?
@@mayuravirus6134 theoretically yes. And there are laptops out there with Xeons already too.
@@CoalitionGaming Laptops with Xeons CPU?! How do you even cool those!?
There are low power variants of Xeons, laptop specific variants of Xeons, etc. For pretty much any consumer intel CPU in a laptop, there are Xeon variants out there. Its nothing crazy.
w-3135 Is my favourite.
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I’m upgrading from e5 1620v3 to e5 2697v3
Chris is venom
Its good to see you selecting xeon e5-2667 series for computation. Although, i want to make high end workstation with better clock speed & better benchmark. Afters days, i came to select e5-2667 v4. If you are conscious about clock speed & don't want extra cores, thats the right choice.....
I didn't talk to much on v4 CPUs in this video because I hadn't really played with them but if you'd kept up with my content, even just my xeon or HP Z workstation content, you'd know that I finally did play with a v4 platform and was torn between e5-1650v4 and e5-2667v4 on the HP z440 I modded into a gaming PC. Eventually I selected the e5-1650v4 due to it's clock speed advantage for strictly gaming use.
my 2696 v4 is a BEAST
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xeon x5675 supramacy
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Oh wow, comparing CPU only by clock speed and cores. Quality content.
So out of the bunch of info given in here going over the different architecture generations, sockets, naming schemes, and personal favorites....that was your take away? Some people just see what they want to see I guess. Good luck out there, sounds like you'll need it.
Question.?. I ended Buying the Old Dell T7810 16 Core 32 thread Server-- Aka the Beast... for $390 +tax. 🤣😂
Dual (x2) 3.2Ghz 8 Core 16 Thread
E5 2667 V4 w/ oem 3.6Ghz max Turbo
32gb RAM DDR4 (2x16gb)
500GB SSD
3TB SATA HD
685w power supply
1GB graphics card
Upgrades once I get it.. xD
64gb of 3200mhz DDR4
2TB MVNe/pcie
2TB ssd Drive
8GB EVGA GTX 1070 TI WTF (2x8pin version)
But, I like to know What kind of Next Gen X2 Xeon-- I would be able to build, in the Future... with 12 Core or 16+ Cores @ 3.0+ghz..
Even, if they are Way Over Priced-- at the moment. Thanks.
Pretty much any V4 Xeon should work as long as numbered part of the naming begins with a 2, like the E5-2699v4 which is a 22 core. Probably the highest you can go I think. 2.3ghz base frequency, 3.6ghz boost. Not bad all.
@@CoalitionGaming is there any Xeon Silver or Gold 12 or 16 Cores that run at 3.0ghz or more.?. Compatible with a Dual CPU motherboard. (Buying Newer MB/system is ok)
I'm assuming it's the Gen w/DDR4 ram compatible..
Or will I most likely have to build a Single Ryzen 24+Core high preference PC to get 3.0ghz or faster.?.
Any insight would be help.. spent alot of time trying to figure it out -- from scratch.
XEON Chip model ID's can be quite confusing.. :/
For your platform, I would venture to guess that only v3 and v4 xeons are compatible and that's it
@@CoalitionGaming Yes.. that's ok.
Just, needed another computer, right now..
I'm was not sure what kind of (brand) New PC I can Build-- in this Over Priced market & The Launch of the New series Hardware..
when, I discovered this Dual CPU Beast. 😎
there's only the V3 10 Core 3.1ghz (only ddr3) that's bigger but, I choose V4 8 Core for the ddr4 capability.. (for future new build)
But, I'm beginning to think a Dual 3.0ghz+ CPU server Build-- like this, is Not going to be possible-- in the Future..
Because, there's No Main Stream Xeon 12+ Core 3.0ghz+ CPU being Sold-- in single or Dual CPU systems.. Currently.
Anyways, It's a cheap enough to get Me by until I can figure-out what I really want to Spend my money on..
but, seems it's going to be Hard to beat the Performance of this Beast.. 🤣😂
16 Cores of Pure PoWer!!
oh right my mistake i forgot that broadwell went DDR4 on that platform. So yeah, just V4 Xeons. They are still pretty good all things considered!
there are still dual servers for 1700 dollars and less with 2 CPUs caster a board adapter is available for everything and more built with it with 12 ram connections 2060 rtx new ^^ server google kit with the best stuff to disassemble everything and locked with luck at the driver find software there is also beta bios Rade xmp oc and dual, the strongest up to 4899mhz can be coupled to headpips ^^ only has to pay attention to the selection also who server ram can not be tacked everything without uefi can blow everything up locked if you want you can find everything , or not that's the truth even if they don't have an avx bench doesn't bring much to bandwidth dual lan 10 g 1 a with the right selection or with tripple boards if you can still find something that is all x newer higher what is history of fun I say that too just like I have enough replacement I don't run out
There was even 4x Cpus boards no idea how to go for the stuff overpriced and not findable only with lucky blobs that work for the overview
I use v4 Xeon CPUs
What type of mb do you use? I ordered a generic brand micro atx board from ebay.
@@imran356 I'm using the MACHINIST RS9
The best XEON is the E5 2686 v4 it has 2.4 gigs Hertz per core and it has 16 cores. I found one for 35 dollars
That's a bit slow for gaming but it's a good CPU still
@@CoalitionGaming ok
@@CoalitionGaming found out that games don't use all cores so XEON e5 2667 v4
Games aren't all that well multi-threaded yes but games do very much really like higher frequencies too
@@CoalitionGaming ok
he forgor xeon scalable series 💀
Didn't forget, just wasn't relevant to the video. I only intended to talk about the Xeons from westmere/nehalem/gulftown to broadwell-ep because they are the only ones relevant to buying secondhand for budget gaming rigs. It's what got me into xeons in the first place. Nobody uses Xeon scalable for gaming or content creation 😂
I will not buy a Xeon CPU ever again.... Total waste of Money.... In Dubai they sold to my company a double xeon (48 cores) 192 GB of memory ram and Quadro GPU... Well... It is in the store... Never used... The clock speed is so slow that an i5 intel is much faster... Really a total waste of money... Buy ryzen 5950x...intel 13900k...anything....but not xeon...
The type of Xeon you are talking about are completely different, and completely different use case, than the xeons this video is about. That said, whoever was responsible for spec'ing and procuring the proper equipment needed for the function your company needed doesn't know how to do their job if what you got was not able to do what your company needed.
@@CoalitionGaming Surely you are right but I got such a bad experience that Xeon in my brain sound bad...They promised me extraordinary performance for AutoCAD and Cinema 4D but even though I had 92 Threads the machine was not performing at all because the clock speed was terrible... :(
Yeah thats an unreasonable reason to not like them lol. But they aren't commonly used for gaming/streaming rigs anyways so they aren't something you or anyone will really seek out for general consumer usage anyways so its all good.