here we are 6 years later and we are still watching these "how to" videos, who would have thought, these are still the best of the many vids available on U-Tube...you are a legend Painless360 thankyou from NZ.
best video I have seen for setting duel rates as I need to do that for operating special functions on a tamiya MFU truck control unit as it dose not see digital trim switches, and your video and explanation of each step has suddenly made it clearer and I now feel less of an idiot for not understanding how to set duel rates
These are wonderful videos! I'm going through every single one. Thank you so much for making these videos and helping newbies like myself enjoy this hobby . FrSky should sponsor this as these videos are why I even went with the Taranis. Thank you!
your videos and tutorials are a godsend for someone like me who is getting back into the hobby after a very long pause. The technology can be overwhelming. thank you.
Once again these tutorial videos are so handy.. thanks again for making them. One thing I that did surprise me was that when you take a global function for the ailerons etc... and assign it to a switch for the dual rates it can be shut off completely.. I had to redo mine and set it to a two way switch just to be safe.
Total lifesaver! Been trying to do some proximity flying in a small-ish living room and the throttle curve is just WAY to aggro to have control, especially since I`m a pincher using an X-lite with a broken hand 🤪
Thanks for your help! This radio is so configurable it sometimes gets me stuck in analysis paralysis. You helped me get started again. DR and expo is set up! Now time to finish my plane and get out there.
Painless - wickedly helpful. Been wondering how to do this on my new radio, as I have it (finally) bound to my XK X100, but there is no documentation to help. Got it bound with some help of another video, and got it switching between angle mode and 3D, but had no idea how to do the rates. This is the final piece, so thanks hugely for this. K
Needed this to set dual rates to change with the flight modes on my Dart 635mm. Needing full throws in stabilized mode, and less throws in acro modes. Like many things in OpenTX, once you know where to find it, you can adjust just about anything.
I looked thru the menu's trying to find something that looked like rates and expo.. totally lost... bingo... found your series on a search.. going to do the whole series.. x3 thanks! and thanks janmb for the comment below..
Works for the same tx running edgetx. 7 years into the future 😁. I just swapped a 🦕72mhz🦖 rx for a betafpv micro elrs in an old glider. Boy have times changed from using dip switches on the back of the radio😅.
Hi there, Painless! I've just recently bought a Taranis X9D+ and I've set up an S800 wing. This video was an awesome help because I tend to like quite a bit of expo but I didn't know how to make the changes in the tx. Thanks very much!!!
You Sir, are a Superstar. I've been trying for hours to set up rates and expo on my new Taranis Plus. You explained it concisely and clearly. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for these videos. I had no idea this radio is so versatile. I will finish the set. I am looking or a radio, and this one,, for the price, is a bargain. Please keep up the good work! Thanks,, Rick
Companion is handy for showing mixing tips and tricks though ;) I can navigate through the menus far faster on the radio as that is what I am used to and I always have the menus at the field.. Happy flying!
Great article :) However I was wondering, if I wanted to reduce the sensitivity of my quad by setting up dual rates/expo, would I do that for all 4 channels or is setting it up on the throttle generally frowned upon? Just I am going either up or down, with little control sensitivity from my inexperienced hands :)
Using dual rates on my Eachine wizard x220s I set the switches up just like you did but i set up for 60 80 and 100 and it seems to be working fine I haven't stepped up to 100% but it seems to be working good if you set up for a plane of some sort well that works fine for a quad as well
Great Taranis video. Very helpful in demystifying this superb radio. I, like you am a Mac user. However, I noted that you often use a PC Netbook when interfacing with the Taranis, such as adjusting firmware. Please talk a little about the pros and cons of using a Netbook in place of Mac OS or running Windows on your Mac.
Thanks and used your guide on my X7 - works perfect! ...remark for you; I assigned it to a 3 way switch, top & middle, but when i put the switch in the low position you get no outputs at all anymore and can be tricky while flying - so i assigned low rates to the other 2 positions, dont want to get any issues while flying. Regards, Floris
+MileageMayVary you can add a setting to the switch you're using if you want to use a three position switch or use the ! mark.. see our video on that..
Newbee question. Why do you need the switch condition on line 3, the elev low rate. Surely if "SB up" is not active, the next line, low rate, automatically becomes active as does any other position of switch SB.
You may have noticed me asking a few questions on a few of your videos. Let me assure you the only reason is your videos are simply the best source of information out there. I really appreciated that you took time to answer all of my questions. Another question, is it possible to setup expo on cc3d? You did mentioned other FC but did not mention cc3d, which is why I want clarify.
Another fantastic explanation of the workings of the Taranis, I've in the past only stumbled onto getting things to work, you've shown me why and how. Keep it up. Can you show how to manually set up throttle hold please? Many Thanks.
Thanks for the great tutorial. I find them very helpful. I haven't seen this before, but I wonder if it is a good idea to set rates on the throttle as well. I am just learning how to fly quads and I think having the double rates and expo on the throttle would be helpful. Do you think that is a good idea?
I wouldn't set rates but I do usually add a little curve to the throttle to flatten out the hover-point and add 'an expo' to throttle for newer pilots. Lots easier to hold the hover like that.. Hope that helps..
I have just tried this on a Taranis OpenTX 2.3.7 via the companion and for some reason it seems to invert the input, i.e. 100% at switch position SB-, and 60% at switch position SB-back. Repeating this on the Taranis directly gives the expected result!
Sometimes you find that Companion has a few 'features' that get fixed in the next version - usually! Always good to check it works the same on the radio... Happy flying!
I know this is an old comment but hopefully it will help someone. If you choose the option with the exclamation point in from of it, it will be inverted. i.e. !SB↑ instead of SB↑
I have a taranis QX 7 for over 4 years, but something strange is happening, I lost the dual rate settings made by the Input, I don't know what happened, the configuration is there, the servos work normally, but the function does not work, just I managed to redo the dual rate setting through the Mixer. Any idea what might be going on. Grateful !
@@Painless360 I have a Taranis QX 7! but I lost my dual rate settings, made by Input, I don't know what happened. The configuration is there, the servos work normally, but the function does not work! I was only able to redo the dual rate setting through the Mixer. Can you tell me what might be going on with my transmitter?
Hi thanks for the awesome video, I have a question. I notice that when we insert exp for the input page it doesn't associate with the output page "curve" selection (with the reverse,subtrim functions) does it matter ?
Hello Joshua I have a question. Ive had my Taranis XD9 Plus for about a year now and have solely been flying quads so expo was always on the FCB. At this point I have setup my elevon mixes on the Mixers screen. I also have all of my weights set here as well. I have been told to only setup expo on the Inputs screen yet there are Expo settings in the Mixers as well. Since I am new to fixed wing I want to keep this as simple as possible so I would like to start out without Dual Rates. What is my best approach to setup expo that approaches all aspects of what I need. On mY Mixers screen I have as follows: CH1 Throttle, CH2 AIL/ELE, CH3 AIL/ELE. After seeing your video it almost makes me believe I can accomplish everything I did in MIXERS on the INPUTS page? Sorry if this were quads I would be rolling right along LOL, the fixed wing thing is new to me. I kind wish there was a manual on this stuff :)
Joshua? I'd always put the expo into the model in once place if I can. That way if you change it then you don't have to find the other places you've set it up to make it the same. Also, by using the inputs you can use flight modes to set up the model too..
Sorry PainLess I had too many pages open....my bad :) I appreciate your response. I did in fact go to the Inputs page and apply expo and it seems to be working. Once I get more Air time I will move into Dual Rates. I see in your video you (in this case) only applied Dual rates to the Elevator would I also apply it to Aliron? One more to eliminate my confusion. As mentioned I set up my Weights in the Mixers screen. Obviously I can forego the Weights in the Inputs screen but once I assign a switch for Dual Rates will those Weights in the Input screen override those in the Mixers screen?
Hey dude, ive watch all your videos on this radio it is very helpful, however how can you get 32 channels out of the radio as the spec says for the radio 16-32 channel, many thanks
I have just realised that I have set up dual rates on the Mixer tab rather than Input tab. I guess because this was in the Mixer set of videos. It appears to work, but are there disadvantages that will come back to bite me?
Not really. It can be handy in more complex setups to do it on the inputs then that new rate is used in all the mixers that it appears in but I usually set them up in mixer here... Happy flying
Hi, I was going through this setup (in Companion) and noticed that when assigning rates to a 3 position switch you have to use all three positions. I followed your example and found that when I accidentally moved the switch SB into the third position the simulator showed no elevator control at all. I rectified it by duplicating again and repeating the mid position values for the down position. Do you find the same or am I doing something wrong - Cheers Peter
Hello and thank you for your hard work delivering all this great information on the taranis. Im not sure Im in the right place to send you a message but if you could do a video on how to use and program a gyro for use in a fixed wing. I have a plane that is very rudder happy on the ground and taking off from a paved runway I find myself having to really fight the torque and pfactor during takeoff. I installed a gy401 gyro and tried using rate mode to aid in staying straight. I just need to make sure that I have my settings correct and if rate mode or heading hold are the best option to use. thank you again for all the info.
Lee I have a question about the expo settings in inputs, when I long press enter on the curve -> expo number I get GV1~GV9 setting. What does that mean?
Those are Global Variables and allow you to change the setups dynamically using settings that can be adjusted by allsorts and used in many different other places. We have a video on them and use them a bit in the 'Mix School' videos. Best of luck!
Very nice video. However, you should have setup switch B's forward position. If you were to move switch B to the forward position you would lose elevator function.
Curtis Adams Not only do you lose the function of the stick but when you set the switch to the unassigned position it holds the input at the value of the stick throw. If you had, say, right rudder at about 50% at the time, the rudder will get stuck at right 50%. At least it does on my Taranis + with the stock firmware. A rather surprising and potentially disastrous default if you accidentally knock the switch when flying. So you should either assign the third switch position to get triple rates which is effectively this logic... if( SA^ ) { //if switch A up high rate }else if ( SA- ) { //if switch A center medium rate }else if ( SAv ) { //If switch A down low rate } or use the NOT switch position (!) to use all the positions eg SA^ for high and !SA^ for low which is effectively this logic... if( SA^ ) { //if switch A up high rate } else if ( !SA^ ) { //if NOT switch A up low rate } or set up an input default. The "lines" for the input get tested in order, top to bottom so if you assign the first line to SA^ you can use --- for the default second line. You have to have two lines. You then have this logic... if( SA^){ //if switch A up high rate } else { // otherwise low rate } One other point is that it is not necessary to hold the stick at full throw to switch between the rates. I think it just being done in the video to show the programmed throw on the channel monitor but it's a bit misleading.
I am using a T12 Pro. Sometimes when I am setting exponential values (maybe rates as well), the number changes to G1, G2, G3 etc instead of 1, 2 ... 99. I am now thinking that this occurs when I press and hold Enter on the value field instead of giving just a quick press of Enter. But maybe not. It is always difficult to get back to 0. Do you know what is going on here? I Googled OpenTX G1 G2 G3 without success. I wondered whether these are Global values that can be set somewhere, so that for example standard rate values and exponential values can be set and applied either across the whole model or maybe even all models - although the latter is a scary thought!
I'm guessing that it is short for GV1 etc. Global variable are a way to change the value of something dynamically in the radio. See my Opentx mix school for how it works. I don't have a T12 here but I expect that you can press the enter key to change from a descreete variable to a GV and back again... Best of luck
Hello your video's are awesome and help a great deal. I have just recently purchased a taranis 9dplus and its takes a little bit getting use to. So my question is my thr kicks when my stick is at 50% i cant seem to find the sub trim if that is where it needs to be adjusted. I love this tx and hope i catch on. Thank you very much and you really give great instructional videos
What do you do if, at no matter what weight you set, the graph, the monitor, a meter I built like yours and the elevator, and other controls, all travel the maximum distance. Thank you, for the great tutorials. The best.
One small thing that I had a problem with was I tried multiple times to set up rates using companion it never took until I selected Read/Write Then clicked on ( Write Modes and Settings to Radio) Then it will save changes to the XD9. One more thing if by some chance your used to DR/Expo on one switch, Ail and Ele with DR/Expo can all be put on one switch. Here is a great link on the Taranis opentx.gitbooks.io/opentx-taranis-manual/content/companion-introduction.html
Hi, I've been informed that with Taranis you should setup Rates and Expo on the Input page and not the mixes page. I understand what Rates and mixes do, but I don't understand why you cannot set them up on the mixes page as the option is there to do so. A friend said that if you do set rates up on the mixes it can cause problems with trim settings when in flight but I don't see how, any chance you can either explain or point me to a relevant video many thanks
With the Taranis and OpenTX there are lots of ways to do everything and there are better and worse ways depending on what you want to do. As the best practice has developed for OpenTX I'd put Expo and Rates on the inputs and then use the mixer or output screens to adjust travel, sub-trim and reversing. See my OpenTX plane setup videos for a full run-through..
I assume there is a pitfall to be avoided here: In this setup, the third switch position will disable the input altogether, will it not? If so, I would never leave the third position undefined. Either setup a third rate, have the middle rate active two positions, or use a two position switch.
I love it how you keep it simple when explaining.Thanks for the video. I learned a lot again as a beginner. I have one question. When i hit the switch to the edited expo and dual rate of my aileron it doesn´t work. The aileron doesn´t move.
Then something isn't right. If you get into these kinds of situations then add each piece of the mix, one at a time, until you find the one that breaks it. Easy to miss one little piece that causes it to misbehave! Best of luck!
Lee In Open TX on X9D, I have been trying to have a switch tell me what the value of the Elevon mix is set to. I.E. When I move SF I want it to say Expo On (I have this part set up) followed by saying Dual Rate 60% (or what ever value it is set to). I sure would appreciate your help with this.
Great video tutorial. I am new to the QX7 and used this video to setup dual rates. One thing I noticed during testing is that if dual rates is setup on a 3 position switch, SB in this case, and the switch is put in the fully forward position, SB↓, there is no output to the servo's i.e no control ! This could happen accidentally. Is this correct or have I missed something ? I have copied the dual settings from SB- to a third position set as SB↓. This will eliminate the problem. Again thanks for your tutorials.
I've tried to use the SA & SD 3 position switches for Triple Rate can you confirm this is possible Also the simulation screen action of pushing up or back of the switches corresponds to down or forward switch direction on the Taranis can this be changed...joe
You are perfect as always. I have one question. Can we assign only one switch for all the surfaces such as ail,ele,rud or only 2 surfaces like ail,ele.? Rather than having different switches for different surfaces. U know as there are several models on my taranis so sometimes its confusing to find which switches i have assigned. I hope u understand whT i meant. Thanks.
Yes you can. One switch can control many hangs at the same time. See the other videos in the OpenTX Mix School for a series designed to teach from the very beginning..
Painless360 Thanks a million sir. I just tested it and yes i can use one switch. And Thank you for the awesome work u do for us. And Thank you for the in depth detailed videos.
Hi I just picked up my Taranis and was trying to set up the expo to be less on up elevator and more on down elevator. Is there any way to do this? On the 9xr it was pretty simple butI can't seem to figure it out here.
If you have a short wing that is kind of quick they tend to be a little pitch sensitive especially with down elevator (gravity helping). A little more expo on down smooths out a high speed pass and less up expo allows easy maneuverability. Also my thumb seems to have more control dexterity at the bottom of the stick so softening the top helps. I did figure it out though, I added a mix and used the Side function x< or >, with different expo values. This seems to work but was hoping there was an easier way. Thanks for the response and great tutorials!
Been watching your videos, I am a subscriber and I think they are great. I would like to know, I am setting up two Taranis radios, one as a instructor, one as a student.Channels one through four are no problems as they are already dialed into the instructors radio. I am trying to find out how to configure channels five through eight or five through 16 to get them to work on the student radio if you have any information on this I would greatly appreciate it. thank you
I have latest Companion 2.3.14 - when I try to Simulate new model Inputs get error message ....Simulator for this FW is not yet available !!?? why ...joe
Hi Painless 360, I have set up my Taranis to allow me to use expo and dual rates at 75% at medium rates and also 50% at low rates, at 40% expo and even though Open Tx Companion shows this on the eeprom when I save the settings to my tx these changes do not register.I have the latest firmware (2.0.17). In the Input tap I have the source as Ail, weight at 75, curve at expo, gv at 40 and the switch set as SA-. What could I be doing wrong. I have compared these settings to my other models but cannot notice any difference. Can you please help.
On your Elder on elevator you made one switch to set at 60% and the other one at 100%I set up three switches at 60 80 100%because I'm so new I don't want to tear my first drone up and the switches seem to be working just like you showed in the video
+Billy Collins I wouldn't use dual rates on a quadcopter, use the different modes like angle, Horizon etc if you're getting to grips with flying the model. Happy flying exclamation mark
All of the videos are in the playlist. It ended up being one of the most viewed on the channel, and one of the largest! Search for what you want with Painless360 in the search and you'll find it. I used 'taranis curves painless360' to find the video.. Best of luck!
My Devo 7 radio has a setting called Fixed ID. Its a safety so If I forget to change model in in the radio It won't link up. Say I'm flying 600 raptor nitro heli. and after that fly my 51 AJ slick. and forgot to change models in my radio it won't link up.
here we are 6 years later and we are still watching these "how to" videos, who would have thought, these are still the best of the many vids available on U-Tube...you are a legend Painless360 thankyou from NZ.
2014, and applying this to EdgeTX. Just all made sense. Thank you.
Since I never remember how to set my taranis...never, I am always watching your videos my vote for president.
best video I have seen for setting duel rates as I need to do that for operating special functions on a tamiya MFU truck control unit as it dose not see digital trim switches, and your video and explanation of each step has suddenly made it clearer and I now feel less of an idiot for not understanding how to set duel rates
The light bulb came on for me after seeing this. I was up half the night battling this radio and this morning boom fixed. Very nicely done!
These are wonderful videos! I'm going through every single one. Thank you so much for making these videos and helping newbies like myself enjoy this hobby . FrSky should sponsor this as these videos are why I even went with the Taranis.
Thank you!
+zippyzip03 Thank you for the feedback, so glad they are helping. Happy flying!
your videos and tutorials are a godsend for someone like me who is getting back into the hobby after a very long pause. The technology can be overwhelming. thank you.
Once again these tutorial videos are so handy.. thanks again for making them.
One thing I that did surprise me was that when you take a global function for the ailerons etc... and assign it to a switch for the dual rates it can be shut off completely..
I had to redo mine and set it to a two way switch just to be safe.
Excellent video. Very clear and informative.
Total lifesaver! Been trying to do some proximity flying in a small-ish living room and the throttle curve is just WAY to aggro to have control, especially since I`m a pincher using an X-lite with a broken hand 🤪
Thanks for your help! This radio is so configurable it sometimes gets me stuck in analysis paralysis. You helped me get started again. DR and expo is set up! Now time to finish my plane and get out there.
Check out my Simple plane setup video for Opentx, lots of tips.. Happy flying
THANKS you made that painless!!!
Once again another very helpful video! Much appreciated!
Excellent video as ever, thank you!
Thank you Thank you Thank you. Just getting into planes after flying quads for years. This stuff is so new to me. Appreciate your video.
If you are new then this may be useful - ruclips.net/p/PLYsWjANuAm4roNirna4D0BBnT2szXvvvG best of luck!
Painless - wickedly helpful. Been wondering how to do this on my new radio, as I have it (finally) bound to my XK X100, but there is no documentation to help. Got it bound with some help of another video, and got it switching between angle mode and 3D, but had no idea how to do the rates. This is the final piece, so thanks hugely for this. K
Many thanks again. Just so well described and demonstrated
Needed this to set dual rates to change with the flight modes on my Dart 635mm. Needing full throws in stabilized mode, and less throws in acro modes. Like many things in OpenTX, once you know where to find it, you can adjust just about anything.
Wonderful. Another great, very clear video. Thanks again.
I looked thru the menu's trying to find something that looked like rates and expo.. totally lost... bingo... found your series on a search.. going to do the whole series.. x3 thanks! and thanks janmb for the comment below..
Works for the same tx running edgetx. 7 years into the future 😁. I just swapped a 🦕72mhz🦖 rx for a betafpv micro elrs in an old glider. Boy have times changed from using dip switches on the back of the radio😅.
Fantastic again, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😊
I'm going to build a FT Tiny Trainer soon, so I'm going to need it. 😃
As always, OpenTx 101. OTX is becoming pretty easy the more I watch these.
Another mystery solved and explained very well - Thanks as usual :)
Thanks a million for your Videos .Brilliant teaching aid ...!
Hi there, Painless! I've just recently bought a Taranis X9D+ and I've set up an S800 wing. This video was an awesome help because I tend to like quite a bit of expo but I didn't know how to make the changes in the tx. Thanks very much!!!
You Sir, are a Superstar. I've been trying for hours to set up rates and expo on my new Taranis Plus. You explained it concisely and clearly. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
+TrevorThePilot You're welcome. Glad it worked. Happy flying!
A huge thank you for your videos! You are very generous with you deep well of knowledge.
+WingmanGVT thanks for the comment, let me know if there's videos on a subject that we don't have have. Happy flying
Thanks so much for these videos. I had no idea this radio is so versatile. I will finish the set. I am looking or a radio, and this one,, for the price, is a bargain. Please keep up the good work! Thanks,, Rick
Painless360 you rock the world of TARANIS If not for you I would have smashed this radio/controller along time ago.
+samuel lubricant glad to hear we have made it a little easier! Happy flying!
Thank you. Newcomer to these radios sot his was really helpful.
Thanks for the comment, check out the rest of the series. It starts simply and builds on the basics...
Great,thanks.
I never bother with companion,prefer to do everything on the radio.
Companion is handy for showing mixing tips and tricks though ;) I can navigate through the menus far faster on the radio as that is what I am used to and I always have the menus at the field.. Happy flying!
brilliant haven't gone on to using the computer yet but, but love the instruction on the buttons
your video's are so helpful. Thank you so much!
Video helped me today, thanks.
Great article :)
However I was wondering, if I wanted to reduce the sensitivity of my quad by setting up dual rates/expo, would I do that for all 4 channels or is setting it up on the throttle generally frowned upon?
Just I am going either up or down, with little control sensitivity from my inexperienced hands :)
For a new pilot 25-35% on aileron and elevator, 15-20% on rudder and nothing on throttle. Best of luck!
thanks for the great videos they have been very helpful for me and my taranis!
Glad they have helped! Spread the word! Happy flying..
Using dual rates on my Eachine wizard x220s I set the switches up just like you did but i set up for 60 80 and 100 and it seems to be working fine I haven't stepped up to 100% but it seems to be working good if you set up for a plane of some sort well that works fine for a quad as well
Thankful for you channel. Great information mate.
Exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you !!!!
Thank you! Very helpful!
Great Taranis video. Very helpful in demystifying this superb radio. I, like you am a Mac user. However, I noted that you often use a PC Netbook when interfacing with the Taranis, such as adjusting firmware. Please talk a little about the pros and cons of using a Netbook in place of Mac OS or running Windows on your Mac.
+Escape Velocity I don't use any Mac products so don't have the experiences, sorry. Happy flying!
Thanks and used your guide on my X7 - works perfect! ...remark for you; I assigned it to a 3 way switch, top & middle, but when i put the switch in the low position you get no outputs at all anymore and can be tricky while flying - so i assigned low rates to the other 2 positions, dont want to get any issues while flying. Regards, Floris
+MileageMayVary you can add a setting to the switch you're using if you want to use a three position switch or use the ! mark.. see our video on that..
Yes will look for that, thank you... was wondering about the !mark. For now i have 3 rates high, mid & low.
Newbee question. Why do you need the switch condition on line 3, the elev low rate. Surely if "SB up" is not active, the next line, low rate, automatically becomes active as does any other position of switch SB.
You may have noticed me asking a few questions on a few of your videos. Let me assure you the only reason is your videos are simply the best source of information out there. I really appreciated that you took time to answer all of my questions. Another question, is it possible to setup expo on cc3d? You did mentioned other FC but did not mention cc3d, which is why I want clarify.
+Jack Truong yes it is. Don't forget Patreon is there ;)
Another fantastic explanation of the workings of the Taranis, I've in the past only stumbled onto getting things to work, you've shown me why and how. Keep it up.
Can you show how to manually set up throttle hold please?
Many Thanks.
Loads of extra videos on the playlist . This one might be of interest ;) ruclips.net/video/0ZsZHWOvvuo/видео.html
Happy flying!
Thanks for the great tutorial. I find them very helpful. I haven't seen this before, but I wonder if it is a good idea to set rates on the throttle as well. I am just learning how to fly quads and I think having the double rates and expo on the throttle would be helpful. Do you think that is a good idea?
I wouldn't set rates but I do usually add a little curve to the throttle to flatten out the hover-point and add 'an expo' to throttle for newer pilots. Lots easier to hold the hover like that.. Hope that helps..
thank you very much for your videos
I have just tried this on a Taranis OpenTX 2.3.7 via the companion and for some reason it seems to invert the input, i.e. 100% at switch position SB-, and 60% at switch position SB-back. Repeating this on the Taranis directly gives the expected result!
Sometimes you find that Companion has a few 'features' that get fixed in the next version - usually! Always good to check it works the same on the radio... Happy flying!
I know this is an old comment but hopefully it will help someone. If you choose the option with the exclamation point in from of it, it will be inverted. i.e. !SB↑ instead of SB↑
I have a taranis QX 7 for over 4 years, but something strange is happening, I lost the dual rate settings made by the Input, I don't know what happened, the configuration is there, the servos work normally, but the function does not work, just I managed to redo the dual rate setting through the Mixer. Any idea what might be going on. Grateful !
Not sure what you mean. Can you please explain a little more?
@@Painless360 I have a Taranis QX 7! but I lost my dual rate settings, made by Input, I don't know what happened. The configuration is there, the servos work normally, but the function does not work! I was only able to redo the dual rate setting through the Mixer. Can you tell me what might be going on with my transmitter?
Still unsure what you are asking. I'd look at the older setups where you did what is no longer available to find where the issue is... best of luck
What is the difference using the same techniques in the mixer or output pages vs input page? If none, why three different editing pages?
+stephen st.clair you can do things in the Inputs you can't easily in other places. Have a look and you'll see..
Hi thanks for the awesome video, I have a question. I notice that when we insert exp for the input page it doesn't associate with the output page "curve" selection (with the reverse,subtrim functions) does it matter ?
Hello Joshua I have a question. Ive had my Taranis XD9 Plus for about a year now and have solely been flying quads so expo was always on the FCB. At this point I have setup my elevon mixes on the Mixers screen. I also have all of my weights set here as well. I have been told to only setup expo on the Inputs screen yet there are Expo settings in the Mixers as well. Since I am new to fixed wing I want to keep this as simple as possible so I would like to start out without Dual Rates. What is my best approach to setup expo that approaches all aspects of what I need. On mY Mixers screen I have as follows: CH1 Throttle, CH2 AIL/ELE, CH3 AIL/ELE.
After seeing your video it almost makes me believe I can accomplish everything I did in MIXERS on the INPUTS page?
Sorry if this were quads I would be rolling right along LOL, the fixed wing thing is new to me. I kind wish there was a manual on this stuff :)
Joshua? I'd always put the expo into the model in once place if I can. That way if you change it then you don't have to find the other places you've set it up to make it the same. Also, by using the inputs you can use flight modes to set up the model too..
Sorry PainLess I had too many pages open....my bad :)
I appreciate your response. I did in fact go to the Inputs page and apply expo and it seems to be working. Once I get more Air time I will move into Dual Rates. I see in your video you (in this case) only applied Dual rates to the Elevator would I also apply it to Aliron? One more to eliminate my confusion. As mentioned I set up my Weights in the Mixers screen. Obviously I can forego the Weights in the Inputs screen but once I assign a switch for Dual Rates will those Weights in the Input screen override those in the Mixers screen?
If you're setting up for a multirotors then I'd add it to both. Usually something like 25% on Aile and Elev and 15% on Rudd.. Best of luck!
Awesome video. Thanks!
Very helpful in setting up my qx7
Hey dude, ive watch all your videos on this radio it is very helpful, however how can you get 32 channels out of the radio as the spec says for the radio 16-32 channel, many thanks
Thx you helped me a lot in 10mn.
I added dual rates and expo to a switch and Amber tells me that I'm in low or high rates.
Thanks for the help Lee
I blame these thumbs of mine.. You make it look easy.
TheRogerx3 You don't know how long I practiced before turning on the camera! ;)
Happy flying Sir!
I have just realised that I have set up dual rates on the Mixer tab rather than Input tab. I guess because this was in the Mixer set of videos. It appears to work, but are there disadvantages that will come back to bite me?
Not really. It can be handy in more complex setups to do it on the inputs then that new rate is used in all the mixers that it appears in but I usually set them up in mixer here... Happy flying
@@Painless360 Thank you for your prompt reply.
Hi, I was going through this setup (in Companion) and noticed that when assigning rates to a 3 position switch you have to use all three positions. I followed your example and found that when I accidentally moved the switch SB into the third position the simulator showed no elevator control at all. I rectified it by duplicating again and repeating the mid position values for the down position. Do you find the same or am I doing something wrong - Cheers Peter
No, that is right. Watch the video on 'Explaining the Exclamation ' to see why and how it works like that..
Painless360 Thanks for that, So much information I missed that one. Got it clear now. Great work thanks
Hello and thank you for your hard work delivering all this great information on the taranis. Im not sure Im in the right place to send you a message but if you could do a video on how to use and program a gyro for use in a fixed wing. I have a plane that is very rudder happy on the ground and taking off from a paved runway I find myself having to really fight the torque and pfactor during takeoff. I installed a gy401 gyro and tried using rate mode to aid in staying straight. I just need to make sure that I have my settings correct and if rate mode or heading hold are the best option to use. thank you again for all the info.
Very helpful thanks
Got it. works great. Thanks.!
Nice videoserie you have started, lots of info to share.
WIsh !! video about both positive and negative differential
Jens Hoffmann ruclips.net/video/eiL57ZNNbps/видео.html ;)
Happy flying!
Like your videos, I would like to know how to do dual rates and expo on elevons. Can't seem to get it. Do you set the rates on inputs or mix page?
+TheDuncandan setup on the inputs. Best of luck!
+Painless360 Worked like a charm, Thank you Dan
Lee I have a question about the expo settings in inputs, when I long press enter on the curve -> expo number I get GV1~GV9 setting. What does that mean?
Those are Global Variables and allow you to change the setups dynamically using settings that can be adjusted by allsorts and used in many different other places. We have a video on them and use them a bit in the 'Mix School' videos. Best of luck!
Very nice video. However, you should have setup switch B's forward position. If you were to move switch B to the forward position you would lose elevator function.
Curtis Adams Not only do you lose the function of the stick but when you set the switch to the unassigned position it holds the input at the value of the stick throw. If you had, say, right rudder at about 50% at the time, the rudder will get stuck at right 50%. At least it does on my Taranis + with the stock firmware. A rather surprising and potentially disastrous default if you accidentally knock the switch when flying.
So you should either assign the third switch position to get triple rates which is effectively this logic...
if( SA^ ) { //if switch A up
high rate
}else if ( SA- ) { //if switch A center
medium rate
}else if ( SAv ) { //If switch A down
low rate
}
or use the NOT switch position (!) to use all the positions eg SA^ for high and !SA^ for low which is effectively this logic...
if( SA^ ) { //if switch A up
high rate
} else if ( !SA^ ) { //if NOT switch A up
low rate
}
or set up an input default. The "lines" for the input get tested in order, top to bottom so if you assign the first line to SA^ you can use --- for the default second line. You have to have two lines. You then have this logic...
if( SA^){ //if switch A up
high rate
} else { // otherwise
low rate
}
One other point is that it is not necessary to hold the stick at full throw to switch between the rates. I think it just being done in the video to show the programmed throw on the channel monitor but it's a bit misleading.
I am using a T12 Pro. Sometimes when I am setting exponential values (maybe rates as well), the number changes to G1, G2, G3 etc instead of 1, 2 ... 99. I am now thinking that this occurs when I press and hold Enter on the value field instead of giving just a quick press of Enter. But maybe not. It is always difficult to get back to 0. Do you know what is going on here? I Googled OpenTX G1 G2 G3 without success. I wondered whether these are Global values that can be set somewhere, so that for example standard rate values and exponential values can be set and applied either across the whole model or maybe even all models - although the latter is a scary thought!
I'm guessing that it is short for GV1 etc. Global variable are a way to change the value of something dynamically in the radio. See my Opentx mix school for how it works. I don't have a T12 here but I expect that you can press the enter key to change from a descreete variable to a GV and back again... Best of luck
Awesome. Thank you thank you thank you!
Great vid.....as ever
Hello your video's are awesome and help a great deal.
I have just recently purchased a taranis 9dplus and its takes a little bit getting use to.
So my question is my thr kicks when my stick is at 50% i cant seem to find the sub trim if that is where it needs to be adjusted.
I love this tx and hope i catch on.
Thank you very much and you really give great instructional videos
+Erich Ristau if you mean that the throttle only starts moving when above 50%, then I check the stick calibration. Best of luck
Painless360 thank you i will check that thank you for the quick reply
Merry Christmas
What do you do if, at no matter what weight you set, the graph, the monitor, a meter I built like yours and the elevator, and other controls, all travel the maximum distance. Thank you, for the great tutorials. The best.
Check you've not missed a step in the video ;D Best of luck!
I am sorry, I guess my question got confusing. Simply, no reduction in weight causes a reduction in the servo throws. Why?
Something in the mixing you're doing is making that happen. Equal weights = equals throws.. I'd start again with a clean model. Best of luck!
Thanks, That did it.
Glad you sorted it. It's so frustrating to follow a video and get to the end with a different result!
One small thing that I had a problem with was I tried multiple times to set up rates using companion it never took until I selected Read/Write Then clicked on ( Write Modes and Settings to Radio) Then it will save changes to the XD9. One more thing if by some chance your used to DR/Expo on one switch, Ail and Ele with DR/Expo can all be put on one switch. Here is a great link on the Taranis opentx.gitbooks.io/opentx-taranis-manual/content/companion-introduction.html
NIce tutorial. Would this work if using it as teacher to the student radio DX5e? or does it depend on the student radio?
Thanks
Alex
Should work.. Best of luck
@@Painless360 so if i set teacher radio with 30 % expo, when fli switch to give control to student radio....the student will have also 30% expo?
tkd
Hi, I've been informed that with Taranis you should setup Rates and Expo on the Input page and not the mixes page. I understand what Rates and mixes do, but I don't understand why you cannot set them up on the mixes page as the option is there to do so.
A friend said that if you do set rates up on the mixes it can cause problems with trim settings when in flight but I don't see how,
any chance you can either explain or point me to a relevant video
many thanks
With the Taranis and OpenTX there are lots of ways to do everything and there are better and worse ways depending on what you want to do. As the best practice has developed for OpenTX I'd put Expo and Rates on the inputs and then use the mixer or output screens to adjust travel, sub-trim and reversing. See my OpenTX plane setup videos for a full run-through..
@@Painless360 many thanks
I assume there is a pitfall to be avoided here: In this setup, the third switch position will disable the input altogether, will it not? If so, I would never leave the third position undefined. Either setup a third rate, have the middle rate active two positions, or use a two position switch.
Or you can use the !SWITCH version too. Happy flying!
+Painless360 precisely. The point was just to establish the inherent danger of leaving a switch position undefined for such a function :-)
I love it how you keep it simple when explaining.Thanks for the video. I learned a lot again as a beginner. I have one question. When i hit the switch to the edited expo and dual rate of my aileron it doesn´t work. The aileron doesn´t move.
Then something isn't right. If you get into these kinds of situations then add each piece of the mix, one at a time, until you find the one that breaks it. Easy to miss one little piece that causes it to misbehave! Best of luck!
Thanks a lot. It works. like you said i missed one little piece.
Hey! Glad you sorted it. It's so easy to do. We do it here lots and have to refer back to the videos for things we've not done for a while! ;D
Lee In Open TX on X9D, I have been trying to have a switch tell me what the value of the Elevon mix is set to. I.E. When I move SF I want it to say Expo On (I have this part set up) followed by saying Dual Rate 60% (or what ever value it is set to). I sure would appreciate your help with this.
Do you mean you need it to speak a set number?
Yes - So if I have a 3 position switch set for Dual Rate (100% 75% and 60%) the radio will say the value I have it set to. I am loving my X9D.
Great video tutorial. I am new to the QX7 and used this video to setup dual rates. One thing I noticed during testing is that if dual rates is setup on a 3 position switch, SB in this case, and the switch is put in the fully forward position, SB↓, there is no output to the servo's i.e no control ! This could happen accidentally. Is this correct or have I missed something ? I have copied the dual settings from SB- to a third position set as SB↓. This will eliminate the problem. Again thanks for your tutorials.
Use the ! Setting, see the video on it in the OpenTX mix school playlist.. best of luck!
Great that’s it, knew I was missing something. Using the !SB is the safer option, thanks again.
I've tried to use the SA & SD 3 position switches for Triple Rate can you confirm this is possible
Also the simulation screen action of pushing up or back of the switches corresponds to down or forward switch direction on the Taranis can this be changed...joe
It is. Best of luck!
You are perfect as always. I have one question. Can we assign only one switch for all the surfaces such as ail,ele,rud or only 2 surfaces like ail,ele.? Rather than having different switches for different surfaces. U know as there are several models on my taranis so sometimes its confusing to find which switches i have assigned. I hope u understand whT i meant. Thanks.
Yes you can. One switch can control many hangs at the same time. See the other videos in the OpenTX Mix School for a series designed to teach from the very beginning..
Painless360 Thanks a million sir. I just tested it and yes i can use one switch. And Thank you for the awesome work u do for us. And Thank you for the in depth detailed videos.
Hi I just picked up my Taranis and was trying to set up the expo to be less on up elevator and more on down elevator. Is there any way to do this? On the 9xr it was pretty simple butI can't seem to figure it out here.
Not sure, why would you want that?
If you have a short wing that is kind of quick they tend to be a little pitch sensitive especially with down elevator (gravity helping). A little more expo on down smooths out a high speed pass and less up expo allows easy maneuverability. Also my thumb seems to have more control dexterity at the bottom of the stick so softening the top helps. I did figure it out though, I added a mix and used the Side function x< or >, with different expo values. This seems to work but was hoping there was an easier way. Thanks for the response and great tutorials!
I see, look at differential on the radio for another way to do what you're after...(?)
Been watching your videos, I am a subscriber and I think they are great. I would like to know, I am setting up two Taranis radios, one as a instructor, one as a student.Channels one through four are no problems as they are already dialed into the instructors radio. I am trying to find out how to configure channels five through eight or five through 16 to get them to work on the student radio if you have any information on this I would greatly appreciate it. thank you
Please see my video on setting up the OpenTX trainer function. That’s the only detail I’ve figured out. Hope it helps..
I have latest Companion 2.3.14 - when I try to Simulate new model Inputs get error message ....Simulator for this FW is not yet available !!?? why ...joe
I've never seen that but the few times I can find that on a Google search seem to be version related - github.com/opentx/opentx/issues/8308
Painless, can you set the dual rates for ailerons, rudder an elevator, to be activated by the same switch in the Taranis x9d?
Yep. :D
Would the same rules apply when setting up a flying wing?
Yep, should do! See later in the series for more details..
why hast made them to be input? you can be made to the mixer? and what is the difference, if there is a difference! thank you.
+Giovanni Acanfora lots of extra things you can do when you use the Input, look down at the options when you create an input.. Happy flying!
I'm guessing this would be the same for the throttle on an fpv drone?
Yes. You can do it in Betaflight or on the radio - ruclips.net/video/wZksCpdAlcQ/видео.html
Is there a way that rates can be added to one of the pots so that you can increase or decrease rates in tiny amounts?
+MACUMLAD it can, see the later video fixed wing maiden flight tips.. it's in the OpenTX mix school and the fixed wing playlists.. hope that helps!
Hi Painless 360, I have set up my Taranis to allow me to use expo and dual rates at 75% at medium rates and also 50% at low rates, at 40% expo and even though Open Tx Companion shows this on the eeprom when I save the settings to my tx these changes do not register.I have the latest firmware (2.0.17). In the Input tap I have the source as Ail, weight at 75, curve at expo, gv at 40 and the switch set as SA-. What could I be doing wrong. I have compared these settings to my other models but cannot notice any difference. Can you please help.
Not sure with that level of detail. Check the switch you are using is working and not assigned to anything else. Best of luck!
Thanks, I managed to get it to work by creating a new model set up. For some reason when I use a copy model it does this.
AT THE END OF THE PARAMETERS EDITED THERE IS '' TRIM'' WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THIS?? THANK YOU
At what point in the video?
hi is it plus or minus to soften the sticks on the taranis.thx mark.
Plus. Check out my Opentx mix school series.. Happy flying
how to set dual rates and expo when we are using evelons? i cant set it up please some one could help me?
On your Elder on elevator you made one switch to set at 60% and the other one at 100%I set up three switches at 60 80 100%because I'm so new I don't want to tear my first drone up and the switches seem to be working just like you showed in the video
+Billy Collins I wouldn't use dual rates on a quadcopter, use the different modes like angle, Horizon etc if you're getting to grips with flying the model. Happy flying exclamation mark
Hey - you say that the 4th video does curves etc - I don't see it
All of the videos are in the playlist. It ended up being one of the most viewed on the channel, and one of the largest! Search for what you want with Painless360 in the search and you'll find it. I used 'taranis curves painless360' to find the video.. Best of luck!
Hi, so you need to copy in order to add expo? can I just go to the channel lets say elevator and change it there? thanks
+LiGhT SPiRiT There is always at least two ways to do just about everything on this radio - give it a try! Best of luck!
But would it work ? thank you for the respond.
Try it and see ;)
Thank you so much
how do i set up dead band on taranis.. am i using the logical switches?
Not sure what you're asking for - why would you want that for a switch?
so i need to do this step on the rest of my channels and i guess i put all of them on the same switch right?
You can. Best of luck!
My Devo 7 radio has a setting called Fixed ID. Its a safety so If I forget to change model in in the radio It won't link up. Say I'm flying 600 raptor nitro heli. and after that fly my 51 AJ slick. and forgot to change models in my radio it won't link up.
Most modern radios have some form of 'model match' technology now, it's a great safety feature..
How do I set it up on the Taranis ?