Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5 / Z Fold5 - What We REALLY Think.. 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2023
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Yes, Samsung's Galaxy Unpacked happened on July 26th for the first time in Seoul. I was there, and the jetlagged face you see is because I already made the trip back and with the devices. I didn't really want to bore you with another typical hands-on video describing what you already knew. Instead, I decided to actually use these devices for two days and tell you what my honest first impressions are as I wrap my ideas around for our full reviews. I'm Jaime Rivera with Pocketnow and let's dive in.
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Honestly the refinement is what made me switch to the Fold this year. I feel like we're reaching the best we'll see with phones for the most part other than the annual chipset upgrades. To see a better hinge from what is already a great fold phone gives me the confidence that this will last longer than previous folds. Only time will tell!
Will last longer? Why you care about that if u will probably change ur phone next year 😂
Charlie^^*^^ 10000% correct. Fold they finally Nailed it. It will last . I had long ago Samsung fold beautiful thing. Just take good care of it and No hard floors. A hip bag or shoulder bag 📱 . Buds. Unless your sitting dawn . And enjoy life joys. Thx for this Vid. Been a pleasure. ✌️. And😊.
Impulse buyer!
I'm with you on this, first time getting a foldable and went top spec with deals for the ZF5.
However, I'm still keeping my S21 Ultra, with it's 108MP main + laser array, and 40MP selfie, cameras. I'll likely use S21 Ultra for RAW pic taking, but edit on the ZF5 via Adobe Lightroom.
Otherwise, I envisage the ZF5 as my new primary phone, just like I did with the Note series years back!
Jaime, great job on this semi-first impression/review of these devices. I was a bit skeptical about my decision to pre-order the Fold 5 since I have the Fold 4, but it seems the upgrade is justifiable, and like you, I do appreciate the small refinements on these types of products,
Great video. I appreciate the reporting on actual use of the Flip v's 2-3 short hands on videos. I have the Flip 5 on pre-order and can't wait. Will be my first Flip since the old school Razors.
You'll love it! I have the moto RAZR+ and having a folding phone is so much fun
Same here. Switching from apple
Really great video. I agree, they are refined products and I'm finally going to try the flip 5. Excited to do so. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Jaime. Loved the video. I’m glad you used them before making the video.
Thanks for a glimpse at the Fold prototypes. That one you had in your hands looked like it would answer most people's request of a wider cover screen, but somehow it looked too bulky and square, makes me appreciate how easy it is to hold the fold with one hand, even if it is bothersome to text.
Awesome video Jaime. I had the S22Ultra and traded it for the S23Ultra at launch, and it is lightyears better. I was skeptical, but couldn't believe how much of an improvement it is!
Still waiting a few generations before considering the Fold. However, I was able to trade an old iphone 6s Plus towards the z Flip 5, so I am excited to try something more pocketable as a secondary device.
Nice vid Jaime. Always an interesting watch. You might have convinced me to upgrade 4 to 5....
Great video, great points. Top notch video 🙏
I really trust and appreciate your views and takes of tech!
Ergonomically in my opinion having owned 3 previous foldables that the longer candy bar style design that Samsung utilizes just feels and fits better in the hand. I've been using the Pixel Fold which is a very intriguing phone but I believe after holding it for a while some may think it's too heavy.
Vivo's fold is really nice since it's basically a regular phone when folded
Yup, I'm upgrading from a Flip3 to the five and looking forward to the moderately big changes. Doesn't seem as urgent to upgrade from the four, and tbf if I didn't know about the Flip 5 improvements, I could have kept the three and not known the difference. Thanks Jaimie.
Even though I usually end up using my iPhone 12 Pro for the battery life and iMessage, my favorite phone is the Flip 4. And it was a no brainer to trade it in for the Flip 5. I'm getting 512 GB, a bigger cover display, a faster processor, and cheaper Samsung Care, for $50 and the trade in. On top of that I got a Watch 6 Classic for $200. Even if I really don't use the phone as often as I would like, it was worth it.
@@earlgrey8611 I usually only carry one with me at a time and just put my main SIM/phone number in whichever I'm using. I do have a second phone line that I use for work sometimes that I'll put in the other phone though.
Excellent video. My favorite channel. 😊
Cnt wait for my Z flip 5❤❤❤. Loved it at first sight
I'm hoping you're right, that these are more refined especially in ways we can't see for durability. I pre-ordered a Flip 5. it will be my 1st foldable.
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Yup. First time diving in myself. ❤
Same here❤❤
Thank you Jaime We'll said. Too many youtubers now a day's act like they want a brand new design every year like people really want a Gen 1 device everytime they get a phone. I switch to the fold this year because I feel like they nailed this design.
I agree totally with your assessment and I just preordered the fold today. Switching from a 14 pro max. The deal was incredible I got 1,270 off the 512gb version and the headphones for only 50 bucks sign me up
I got a flip 5... first Samsung and Android device since the s10e. I like it and will use as my work device. The 15 ultra/pro max will be my daily driver once released.
I purchased both the Flip3 and Flip4 unlocked models two years running. The first one, the screen started to separate in 10 months but I loved the model so much I gave it a second try, purchasing a Flip4 unlocked but the same thing happened and nearly at the same time period. After 10 months the screen started to separate at the crease, so I traded it in for a Samsung S-23 Ultra and much to Samsung's credit they gave me a full trade-in price of $600, but I was disappointed as I had hoped Samsung had worked out all of the problems with the folding screen.
It wasn't the screen protector it came with?
@@SDecepti0n_ Whatever it was on both phones, it started to separate as well as making a crackling sound as it folded and unfolded. The first time it started to happen with the Flip3, the fellow at my local AT&T store he made no mention of it being the screen protector. I gave the Flip a second chance with the 4 but same thing started after 10 months and I lost faith in the technology. When I traded in the phones Samsung made no dispute so that had me think it's not an unknown problem.
@@RaymondCallowaySounds like those *are* the built in screen protectors if you actual screen didn’t break. You can get those replaced really easy at a repair place, especially if you have Samsung care I think they’ll replace em for free. Not need to exchange them for new phones they didn’t actually break
@@RaymondCalloway my flip 4 a month ago started to separate at the crease, but it ended up just being the screen protector. If Samsung determined the phone was fine, I think it may have just been the screen protector!
I have to say they look amazing went to have a go on one yesterday. The only issue I had with the fold 5 is My nail left and indent on the screen
Will the screen protector bulge with these variants of folding phones, as my screen protector on z flip 3 developed bubbles within 4 months
With the Spen case on, will the Fold 5 lay flat without wabble when open and taking notes?
Well done Jaime
Great video! i agree with everything said. i just love what i see coming from Samsung. it's just an evolution of the foldables. Apple can keep a design for 10 yrs and no one blinks an eye. keep up the great work Samsung.
Great video! Sticking with my S23 Ultra until we get a Fold with the wider outer display.
And better cameras
I just switched from the Fold 4 to the S23Ultra because I broke the inside screen on my Fold 4. I loved the Fold, but even with trade in its expensive. The S23 Ultra is cheaper, and you be honest, the screen is almost as big as the inner Fold screen for videos (do to the aspect ratios)
Could you please let us know about any battery info/improvement for the fold 5 ?
i have flip 3 getting the flip 5 mint green what is a good case thank you sir
This is the first mexican (just guessing, latin/hespanic for sure) tech youtuber I've ever seen. Didn't think it was possible. Subscribed.
UE are the best reviewer I've seen to date, and words can't explain enough how I love your content, for a student who makes a lot of research, reading and consuming content, would you recommend a fold 5 over the tab s9ultra if money is not a problem
Well they’re two completely different products. One doesn’t replace the other, nor compliments the other. They both do similar things though, so you’d have to pick your form factor. I prefer a squared fold that can be a phone in my pocket
I’m surprised Samsung didn’t release any Bluetooth Earbuds this year as they normally do on their foldables unpacked events…
Me too I was kinda hoping that they did not that there's anything really wrong with the buds 2 pro but I wish they would stop falling out my ears.
Yeah they’re a great pair of earbuds, i guess they want to do it the Sony & Apple way of releasing their premium earbuds in 2-3yrs time interval, so we might probably see it next year, I’m hoping they upgrade cus the AirPods Pro 2 and the newly released Sony XM5 are a much better alternatives at the moment and i know Samsung will make a tough competition when when they release the Buds 3 Pro…
Last time I bought a regular phone (S22 Ultra) because foldables were too new, there were too many reports of screens going caput after a short period of use. I plan to get a new phone in about 6 months and am seriously considering one of the Samsung foldables.
I pre-ordered the Watch 6 Classic with a trade in of my Watch4 because I miss my bezel. My watch is getting beat up without that protection. I also don't think much of the touch bezel for navigation.
The wider display protype looked so good please Samsung go torwards that direction
Give me that 19.5:9 concept with integrated S Pen. It's literally perfect. Happily trade in my Z Fold 5 that's en route for that.
I skipped the Fold 4 and 5 this year and pre-ordered the Tab S9 WiFi. Will trade in my Tab S8. I'm still not convinced by the Samsung Flip. I actually think the OPPO Flip looks prettier, especially the purple. And I like the matte texture.
I do like that mint green flip 5! Unfortunately my finances won't allow for switching to it yet. So sad!
What's the screen on time of z flip 5?
I was thinking about upgrading my tablet to the basic S9 ultra I don't know yet maybe around Black Friday time but the prices go down
Funny that you said that almost everyone abandoned Android tablets.... I'd never thought I would buy an iPad, and yet here we are. I have an iPad and I do not regret my purchase at all. Although, I've been fighting on moving to iPhone for a while, but my S23 Ultra makes it so difficult that I abandon the idea pretty soon.
Is the faster memory noticeable? They gave us 512gb for $999 on preorder so it should feel quickz
I'm going flip 5.
I’m lowkey thinking of getting that galaxy watch, I have never had one and I currently still use the Apple Watch 3.
The sheer convenience of the Flip just out-ways any other issues.
Used to upgrade Android devices twice a year till the Note 9 got the 20U and now the s23U . With Apple I had the 4 got the 5s " best design " held on up to the x and now the 13 pro max.
That flip 5 is impressive
I agree that the Fold 5 is making the right decisions, at least the improvements are all positive. I may prefer a slightly wider outer display as the device got thinner, and get rid of the under-display camera with a corner punch hole. But that's the only gripes. Water-resistant, spen, dex; I would only switch if other companies can offer these 3 features too. I don't think the upgrade worth $630 though, I will wait for later deals.
Had my fold 4 but I decided to sell it and bought iPhone 14 pro max and I feel more secured. The problem with samsung is the aftersales and repair process here in the Philippines even with just a simple inner screen protection replacement I still need to travel for 2 hours have it replaced and pay 19usd equivalent to php
I think the comparison to the s23 ultra is kind of what I had in my mind coming into this year, knowing that they probably will redesign it next year and it will be more like the competition, but I think this is a sweet spot and I'm going to try and roll with it. Preordered. Hoping the 8 Gen 2. Will be as solid for this phone as it was for the 23 ultra.
So did you trade in your s23 ultra and if so what did you trade it in for
@@YankeesGiantsactually I opted for the pixel 7 pro instead of the s23 ultra. I'm a little bit of a Google fan boy but absolutely love the note series. I preordered the s23 ultra but canceled before it arrived in. Kind of regretted it but really have enjoyed my seven pro. I got a teacher discount, the $50 off, and the free upgrade on storage and all together seemed reasonable too. Too finance it over 2 years through Samsung with the $7 per month insurance. I'll probably cancel because I've never broken a phone. My plan will be to sell my first generation Microsoft duo, the slim pen too, the charging thing, my 7 pro and put some of the costs.
@Kickenwing13 I have the s23 ultra and took a 2 year plan with Affirm to pay it off traded my s22 plus for it I have the watch 5 and buds pro 2 so all Samsung. I was thinking of the Pixel but there always seems to be something not right with them people having different issues so I stayed with what I know.
@@YankeesGiants I think especially for this iteration. You probably chose right. I think the s23 ultra is one of those phones, like the Note 20 ultra that people seem to hang on to. I'm trading my pixel buds in as well. Going to sell them on the private market and hope I get something out of them. They included them for 50 bucks so I figure if they sell my pixel buds for 50 bucks I upgraded or at least got something that was more compatible. We'll see how long I stay Samsung. Love them but people like me get tired of it compared to Google.
Tensor two just runs hot and isn't that efficient. I really haven't had a ton of issues with this phone. It's been smooth and I like it
@@Kickenwing13 you are right people loved the 20 ultra and Samsung did right with the s23 ultra
Thanks for sharing your insights from the trip to Seoul, Jaime. Call me crazy but I’m one of those who took advantage of the (over) trade deals with my iPhone 14PM to get the Fold 5. As a long time iPhone user I have long been intrigued by the foldables and I figured, hey ZF5 might be the best reiteration now esp with the new flat folding mechanism. I look forward to the world of multitasking and media. I do need to go through a process of transition first though. Loads to learn. In the meantime, back to waiting for the delivery.
I switchs to fold 5 from xiaomi mi 8
Is it worthed?
Can you compare fold 5 vs honor magic v2, flip 5 vs razr 40 ultra?🙃🙃🙂🙂
I am having a hard time finding a reason to trade in my watch 5 pro for the 6 classic, the 6 has inferior materials, a smaller battery and only a small bump in performance.
As much as I loved the physical bezel, I am NOT giving up my 5 Pro. Still the best watch they have.
I pre-ordered both through my carrier. I have a Fold 4 that I've only had since the end of March. It was an insurance replacement for my Fold 3 that stress cracks started appearing along the crease after having it since launch.
I won't get the Flip 5 as I don't see a need for it. The Fold 5 on the other hand: get new warranty on a new device, new insurance and Samsung Care+ on it...but pay basically the same through my carrier for a the Fold 5 that I have been paying for my 3 and 4. I dunno. Tough decision.
Please make a comparison of watch 6 classic and watch 4 classic.
The Fold 5 looks great and is very aplealing to me. The conundrum thiugh is whether to trade the exceptional S23 Ultra for it. 🤔
I would keep the s23 for one more year get the fold 6.
My mobile phone journey:
2006/7 - Motorola Razr
2008-2023 - Some generation of iPhone
2023 - Fold5
I was sold on the Fold4 six months after it released, so I forced myself to wait for the Fold5.
Your review has been reassuring with all the anti-Fold5 Pixel Fold Kool Aid.
I can’t believe that people are recommending that phone over the Fold5 when bending the Pixel in the wrong direction a tiny bit fully ruins the thing. Imagine what people would be saying about the Fold5 if it could be destroyed so easily.
If the Fold5 is just another step forward for a now well-refined product that’s exactly the kind of phone I seem to have liked for the last 15 years.
I have had z fold 3 and z fold 4 and the physical improvements are the real improvements. Including z fold 5. The 3 was too narrow~ so the 4 increased the width. The 4 was too thick ~so the 5 reduced the hinge thickness
I ordered the 5. Why? In my case, the 4 had dust In the hinge now that i couldn't fully open to the completely flat position. That itself calls for upgrade instead repairing it.
I physically tested the holding feelings of the 5. I could do one hand typing perfectly, really nice grip. So i don't want too wide.
Financially, i have $1000 trade-in, two promote codes ($50 each), and the significant discount during the ordering process that Samsung bundle and price deduction (eg. 25w power plug is just $15,not mention $200 price deduction of the class watch 47mm)
I am hoping the chip power gives better life, the UI feature improvement justified this upgrade
Here's an interesting question, If the fold 5 has Same camera setup as the s23 ultra and removed either the inner or outer display selfi camera while being 250 doller more expensive , Well it be a reasonable choice , IMO I would pay extra money to have the same setup as the s23 ulra camera and Have a longer inner display .
I know Jamie won't let me down he'll talk about the Matte Finish on the Z Flip5! RIGHT?!
What matte finish?
which color in flip Z5 was best in real?
I would want a zfold5 but im too scared that the inner screen will break from the hinge area on its own like my zfold2 did and make the phone an expensive paperweight pretty much
get insurance
I had the zfold4 and traded it in for a S23Ultra. THe zfold is too thick and heavy and the screen is sub par compared to the S23Ultra.
Add to that a mediocre upgrade to the Zfold5 and it's a NO for me. The Zflip5 is much more interesting and is the one I preordered.
What do you mean that watch is quarter of a mile behind? Does it under record distance run? 0.25 mile less per how many miles run???
5 miles. 0.25 behind ever since Galaxy Watches track runs. Doesn't mattet which varían.
bro what was that on 0.39 ?
Can you make a video on what you mean by doing something extra to add apps on flip5 screen?
Anyone have a timing issue ?
I just went to the Verizon store last night to lock in my pre order/trade in. Going from my current iPhone 12 Pro to a flip 5 for free (bc they’re giving $1000 trade in)
No trifold yet 😢
I would use the ultra as a dedicated drawing tablet that’s pretty much it😊
AGREED!!
Jaime take a nap you look so sleepy my boy😂
I am so sleepy 🤣
Hey Jaime, which foldable do you prefer between the Z Fold 5 and the Pixel Fold?
wit the galax tablets i just hate that they dont have the ultra with LTE
I think the biggest draw back on folds and flips are the camera's you paying a lot for them but getting low grade camera's.
They’re not low grade cameras, but I can see how the ultra makes them look that way
I have no issues with the camera on my z flip 4 look good to me.
@@taedavis1464 did you do a trade in if so what did you trade in for it
@@Pocketnowthey're low grade I get better night time and scenic photos from my OG fold and Note 9
@Pocketnow guess you would never trade in a ultra for one
The Fold is not totally refined yet. Looking from the side, the screen seems protruding out, looking like screen protector. smart samsung using that extra thick screen for protection from scratches and also to close the gap when folded. It doesnt fold fully tho. Crease is still visible. Camera still underperform.
upgrading from fold 2 to fold 5 so all good to me
Hahah. Are u referring to the first gen pixel fold as undercooked Jamie? Lol
Y la pregunta del millon…..
Si uno es usuario de apple y quiere comprar uno de estos nuevos dispositivos..
Y hace el trade in
Como le hace uno para pasar toda la información del iphone al nuevo dispositivo samsung ????? O viceversa ???
Alguien me ayuda? 😅😅😅 cheers
En el caso del Galaxy, Samsung tiene una aplicación que se llama Smart Switch que lo hace súper práctico. La inversa si es más complicada.
@@Pocketnow si si entiendo el metodo que me explicas lo acabo de revisar como funciona hehehe pero la pregunta q tengo es esta otra q mencione en el anterior mensaje que mande...
yo hago trade in con un dispositivo de apple a samsung o de samsung a apple...
si envio el dispositivo cualquiera q sea apple o samsung..
y luego me llega el nuevo sea samsung o apple
como hago para transferir los datos de uno al otro si no tengo el dspositivo anterior.. ya que lo e enviado 😅 ese es mi pequeno problema :S
Trading in my S22 Ultra for the Fold 5. I dont take many zoomed photos so i wont miss the extra cameras much. Cant wait.
It’s exactly the way I feel
@@Pocketnow Plus the $1,000 trade in credit is too good of a deal to pass up.
Refine make the front screen bigger and bigger battery
I'm considering the $1000 trade in value for my s21 ultra through t- mobile for the z fold 5 since my s21 is now approaching 3 years old and battery life has slip a little.
Yeah saw that. It’s a good deal
Skip the z fold 5 ..not enough changes to upgrade . I still have the z fold 3 and yes the screen is a bit narrower but I'm cool with that .
I can't wait for my z fold 5 on contract to arrive upgrade anytime for free every year 🙌 , from z fold 4
Keeping my Fold 3 because there are no major differences yet.
The Watch 5 Pro has BETTER battery. I want the 6 Classic for the rotating bezel, but I love the big 5Pro battery!
I can only imagine my tias taking pictures with the big tablets
Fold 5 - the narrower size works for me, because, as a girl, the grip works better for me.
Man if they threw a bigger sensor higher mp camera It'd be perfect. Telephotos are too slow anyway
The next time you meet with Samsung design team tell them we want a flat screen ultra
I was looking forward to the Galaxy Fold 5 and a new updated design with a wider front display, but it became apparent a few months ago that Samsung has decided to keep costs down and forsake a major upgrade. That is understandable with Samsung smartphone sales having a torrid time. Save the good stuff when people have money to spend.
So no upgrade from the Fold 4 to 5 and instead went for the Pixel Fold and that has been a revelation in usability coming from the Galaxy Fold. I can see why not one other OEM has copied Samsung's take with that narrow display and people that upgrade every 3-5 years would be better wait for the Galaxy Fold 6 and giving the 5 a miss. Not that the Fold 5 is bad, the opposite, but having a usable front display is a game-changer and where the market will be in a year or so.
As for the Flip 5, despite the larger front display and slightly better battery life, upgrading from the Flip 4 outside the US would be a poor value (higher price Flip 5 and lower trade-ins versus the US).
Don't say that out loud. They get touchy if you call out Samsung's BS on this channel.
@TheHardknok what Samsung BS? Its either you buy/upgrade or you don't. No one here is forcing you to do squat. Oh I see, you're just here to bithch for no apparent reason. 😂
I have a Fold 4, and have mixed feelings. Mine broke already and was (with very good service from Samsung) repaired under warranty.
The phone is extremely good, the software experience is perfect, but the battery is poor, and I really am scared about durability. For the high price (in Europe there is really not much of trade ins and the likes - my one year old Fold 4 as worth €380 when trading in for a Fold 5(!)) I want to/ have to enjoy this phone for a few years at least, and I'm really worried if it will last that long...
But only time will tell.
The outer display on the Fold is a deal breaker for me!
It's great actually.
Flip 5 may finally be my first foldable. That Moto Razr us giving some good competition though.
Not at all
I'm ordering mine today
The problem with the pen being part of the case and not built in means it's not Bluetooth compatible.
The Tab S9 series is able to charge the pen by outer induction. No need to tuck it in. The fold is just too compact and too complex for there to be enough space in the current state of tech
Me urge ese Z flip 5.
👀
I haven't abandoned Android tablets.
First battery drain test have been released, looks like a 30 minute increase from last year's Z Fold 4's overall time (9 hours 18 minutes versus 9 hours 48 minutes, keep in mind this is a controlled, wifi connection test, so expect about 3-4 hours off with real world usage). Not really seeing the point to get the Z Fold 5 over the Fold 4, even if you're coming from a previous model, unless you want to spend more and get a new hinge.
You're talking about the hinge like it's not a big deal. 😂
@@SinclairMoon it's not? Like what's the difference between that and the Google Fold and other Chinese phones that's had it?
@@superiortoall22 the zfold5 is a better phone.
For this year: Pixel Fold and Razr 40 Ultra. Better choice
As soon as the Fold fits a S Pen inside, I'm pulling the trigger.
I will not be getting the fold. I've had all the rest of them. The front screen is just too narrow for me.
Try opening it. 😉😂
What exactly do you mean lagging a 1/4 mile behind?
Literally at 4.75 at the 5 mile point. Galaxy watches are always behind. This is not in comparison to another watch.. I run in a marked road. We know where each mile point is.
@@Pocketnow thats pretty insane. was thinking about leaving apple watch/iphone for fold 5 and watch 6 classic but i still feel like smartwatches still arent anywhere near apple as far as tracking is concerned this just makes my feelings justified i suppose