Power Of Chi Film Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Film review of some of the elements in the film Power Of Chi where world champion athletes and UFC fighters strength and stability is tested against the power of internal Taiji skill ! With Morgan Freeman giving us some of his famous commentary about what's happening.
I'm reviewing and discussing the segment with world strong man champion Brian Shaw who has been instructed to not let Taiji Master Adam Mizner move him and then being subsequently surprised at the power a man much smaller than him can have over his balance and stability just by using his Qi to displace him.
You can watch the full film at : thepowerofchi.com
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For Adam Mizner's online Taiji course : discovertaiji.com
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If you noticed Brian is breathing heavy!! He was using his power not to move! But still could Not stop!!
If you can over can contact Grand master wai lun chois he out of chicago in desplaines
I used to use this party trick after 1 year of Tai Chi. It's real but it doesn't make Mizner good that he knows the very basics of the art. Frankly it's sad that this is what they're showing off.
no bro, I followed you up to 9:24 and it was all right to have an interesing demo of internal taichi training. But after that, your conclusions on fighting, bro, they're complete bullshit. Mr Mizner woudnt stand a chance against a trained fighter. He'll go down broken legs after two rounds on low kicks, and maybe strangled on submission after a hook combo. It's so obvious, he would not know how to move, where to be and when to act. Stay on your ground and sell your art for what it is: meditation, healing, breathing and core strength. Differently, go in a cage with Jon Jones and prove your fantasy
Honestly mate, don’t waste your time.
There’s a reason Tai Chi isn’t used at all high level of combat sports and training, because as you rightly said, it doesn’t work. If it did, we’d see it in action.
We all know it, these tai chi guys know it deep down but they’ll live on delusion that is has credible use in a fight - even though the only evidence we have is tai chi masters getting beaten by hobbyist Muai Thai and MMA Hobbyists.
I wouldn’t recommend you waste your time as you’re just talking to a brick wall. I’ve literally had a Tai Chi practitioner tell me they can beat someone if they have more ‘sun/san/song’ or whatever it was. Completely dreamland and fallacy and honestly not worth your time. They’re literally in cult mentality land.
All the best
Loved watching strong man champion Brian enjoy feeling what internal power is all about. Imagine if he learned from Shifu Adam what he could do with gaining some internal power from standing and energy cultivating. Great video!
(He would be like the Juggernaut character from the X-man comic books.)
We do have examples of kung fu men over the last three hundred years who made real progress. Adams progress is what I aspire to, but it is not, in my opinion, the be all and end all of internal development. There are many different avenues of progress one may take. If you could be an X-man which one would you be? Many different Jin's one can develop, the important thing is the development of our mind. Kung-fu is deep.
Good luck.
Laoshr #60
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Dude LMAO, i read the 1st comment and i wanna answer he probably become Juggernaut. But u beat me to it😂
Yep that is great. My petite lady teacher can make me take off and took me about twenty steps to recover and she just very very lightly disorient me. Now her son is just as good. I am sure it was less than four ounces of pressure from my belated teacher and her son.
Presente en todos pero solo reconocida por unos pocos afortunados,simplemente relajándose en ella,se revela su disposición innata ,como claridad natural que todo lo permea ,es espontaneidad presente en todo ,es el origen que solo unos pocos ven y se revela dejando en paz lo que sea que se manifieste y no puede hallarse mediante la búsqueda deliberada . Longchenpa
Thank you. I look forward to Heaven Man Earth doing a seminar in Vienna Austria sometime this year. (Please) After 45 years of chasing Tai Chi it is about time my own skills deepen. There are really only a small handful of teachers on the planet that teach to the public. We are lucky to know of them. If you don't believe in this sort of thing too bad for you. Such skills are real, but just because you trained for ten years does not mean you made progress. Practicing "internal martial arts" and developing kung-fu are two different things. The onion of our being has many deeper levels. Don't give up. The only thing thats stopping you is your thinking. Good luck. Looking forward to you guys paying us a visit. (The worst thing that could happen to you here is you might get fat. 😆) All the best.
Laoshr #60
Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
Awesome review! Good work mate🙂
Beautiful. In Moy Yat Ving Tsun we call what the strongman suffers as uprooting.
Your dog is very song
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Yeah good video As a martial artist Tai Chi has it's place in the modern day martial arts world as a practice for health and recovery and maybe augmentation. ✌🏿
as a practitioner of internal arts, i can tell you there are a few misconceptions about chi that create this sort of dichotomy amongst observers. one side believes in magical chi, the other thinks its BS. but chi is neither magical nor BS, just miscommunicated and lost in translation. i wont sit here and explain it all but suffice it to say if most westerners truly understood what the chinese word chi is meant to convey, they would know chi is real but not magical. one side note about abilities that may seem to be magical, they are simply internal skills trained to mastery, as an example Brian shaw would be considered a master at what he does, and if we werent accustomed to strong men, some may not be able to comprehend his power, and thus label it magical or extraordinary. Theres so much more involved here but ill let anyone ask the questions they may have
Yes well said.
I wonder: what is your definition of magic? Everyone is so keen on claiming that none of it is "magic", but nobody every says what that magic would mean and how it is different from "normal". If magic means "outside the mechanical paradigm", then much of modern physics is plain magic.
@@brucefree8 magic is simply the placeholder word for the force we have yet to discover, behind the phenomena we are observing. like most words it can be context specific, but its general use is a placeholder. from that perspective nothing is truly magical, yet everything is. I didnt use the word "normal" but that would be a force we have discovered and understand already behind the phenomena we are observing. though physics the way you put it could be percieved as magic, the main difference for me, is the physical practice that goes into attaining forces like chi versus the accumulation of information on the subject of attaining forces like chi.
On the 4min 25 mark. Mate, you can draw many lines on the ground. The one I would draw would be between Brian's legs and towards the third invisible bar stool....you know the direction Adam is vectoring to. It's a parlour trick, mate, and you drawing those lines is, in my view, designed to deceive and mislead. I don't know why this BS anger annoys me so much. Scratch that, I know precisely why. It is because it has lies and deception at its base and all in the pursuit of MONEY and FAME.
Haha
This is a great video the true essence of chi its very real . I started my training in 1973 in chicago chinatown under wai lun chois of the liu ho ba fa lineage six harmonies eight methods .plus he was a bare knuckle champion of south east asia in 1971 in sinapore.
Wai Lun Choi is very well respected within the traditional Chinese martial arts community....good person to study under. Respect to all
Any of his students able to do that ?
You’re an instructor can you do that ?
It depends on who I touch. I can do it to a lot of normal people. But then my seniors in this school that have more song and more fullness I can't do it to. It's all relative to your level and the level of who you are touching.
Sifu Adam is worlds above anyone else I know, but relatively, yes.
These demos work because opponents don't have push hands skills. Here Mizner is struggling to push someone near his skill level.
ruclips.net/video/4eqJUy2usgM/видео.html
This is 15 years ago. They were both good Taiji players And his level has evolved and deepened soooo much since this.
Maybe but I'm talking about athletes in the movie like Brian Shaw. He was moved around because he has no push hand skills. Mizner doesn't have magic chi powers he is just better at the game of push hands.
So you have pushed hands with him recently then?
I don't practice push hands anymore. But I do freestyle grappling using principles from push hands and other internal martial arts.
Authentic
Singapore. Master wai lun chois is one of Guru danny inosanto Internal teachers . I have seen Wai lun chois back in chinatown punched and kick and not feel anything
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Thanks for the good vibes
Pleasure. Thanks for the great film. 👌
Nicely done Julius!
You suggested he used no technique other than mobilizing Chi. I noticed he used many techniques like you would find in Wing Chun that have not too much to do with chi. It's noticing movement, angles and force. I am sure he is using Chi practises though I do not agree that he used no techniques other than mobilizing chi.
Yes you are right. He was definitely following the subtleties of the angles of force etc. I meant he wasn't using fighting techniques as such. Or a lot of the push hands techniques that are used to gain advantage, like taking their back, etc.
imho. He was 'in control' of Brian ..from before they touched hands ;)
Then, a lot of defeating force using angles just off that line of force.
Adam's structure was in that classic 'relaxed, but tense' state (often descibed as 'relaxed', when in reality there is subtle tension). So he was connected to the floor, in a way Brian was not. And could therefore push/pull Brian at will.
At no time (really) was Adam in a bad position. Rather, it was Brian that was always in a weaker position. But, Brian never knew :)
@@Moodymongul it bothers me. Not because I’m against what’s being shown, but because what’s being implied is dishonest (whether intentional or not).
It’s a demo trick.
-tell them what you want them to do and to avoid
-appear to do one thing and use whatever is necessary to accomplish the end results.
This is charlatan setup 101. Control as much as possible.
I would like to pay the guy a couple compliments still, or at least acknowledge his high level of skill: in both 1)his feel and understanding of the planes of balance, and for 2) his use of manipulation/suggestion/influence.
Very art of war. That’s what he should be teaching.
When Adam is pushing on this mountain look closely at his hands he is not just pushing the guy he is setting him up with a drawing/ leading motion then confusing his system by reversing the direction with a push, Mark Rasmus explains the technique here. ruclips.net/video/oSKlxpyynkU/видео.html&ab_channel=SifuMarkRasmus
Yeah it’s not what’s being sold. There are important principles at play here that are legit. And by the way: the square stance is stronger, but not balanced for the lateral plane; which the pusher does not need worry about with the implied parameters.
I’ve never seen a boxer use a jump rope demo to demonstrate his boxing.
Exactly. He is leading him, and therefore he is one step behind. And therefore he is not really focused on moving or not being moved by Adam, but rather he is focused on keeping up with his movement. He says it himself, “When YOU’RE doing it, I’m thinking… how is this happening.” Against the second guy, he is focused because there is no leading just force against force.
It’s a sort of a skill, but not to be confused with something you can actually used against a trained grappler - or if The Mountain simply was angry and steamrolling forward, ignoring his feedback.
In Chinese or Mongolian Wrestling, you see guys beat other guys triple their weight often. And this sort of leading is used often, you lead in order to get his mass moving and then you redirect at the last moment. The claim is that he is demonstrating Chi, in reality he is demonstrating Timing.
Another example is Tui Shou Chen vs Marcelo Garcia. That video demonstrates that Tai Chi has great stand up skill to be learned. However, once Marcelo starts pressuring forward and reaping the legs, it’s a different story. And that is against one of the most winning Tai Chi World Champions in Push Hands. To the point they literally renamed him “Tui Shou” (Push Hands) Chen lol
Context is always the problem with Traditional Martial Arts demos. It’s not the technique, it’s the context in which the person is giving it. It’s like saying, pulling the other hand to your hip generates more power or a scorpion tail kick is for stopping a rear attack. Both are for grappling. Outside of that context it becomes ridiculous.
I will have to come visit you guys. Im in Perth.
There's an inconsistency here.
3:51 - "Brian wasn't asked to push on Adam. He was asked to not let Adam push him."
7:07 - Against someone else, Brian starts pushing - even leaning forward. His fists jolted forward once he lost contact - indicating that he was pushing back hard.
So... those are two completely different experiments. There's no Control Group at all.
Okay I'll say it another way. Brian's job in that partner exercise was to hold his ground, which he couldn't do. Then the contrast is very easily seen when he is able to hold his ground very easily against the fencer.
@@heavenmanearthperth325 Do you accept the premise that Brian was pushing back hard at 7:07? If you do, would you not also agree that goes beyond than just holding his ground but also trying to make his partner lose ground as well? His opponent staggered back after all.
@@ShadowParalyzer You clearly have no idea about confounding variables in science and are engaging sophist semantics with the words used to describe the situation.
@@symbolsarenotreality4595 I can't tell if you're joking or serious. If you were serious, I suggest attacking the argument, not the person.
Arguments aside, I've also touched hands with a teacher who learned from Adam as well as Adam's teacher. That teacher couldn't do anything to me; his stuff didn't work. Conversely, I could do lots of stuff to him. I also train in Taijiquan - but a more serious kind.
@@ShadowParalyzer Again more nonsensical sophist rhetoric. You can continue reacting with the strawman I was attacking you personally.
Very good
Ave du
Nice documentary
I believe chi is real and all but im not sure 100% about adam. Hes gotta have real skill but I just dont know, I find hes so vague in his explanations, I find if he explained his training and how its done more directly and clearly, id trust his stuff more.
Adam got most of his training from Mark Ramsus. According to one of Mark's students on RumSoakedFist (a forum), Adam got kicked out of Mark's school. You're not the first to bring up Adam's lack of transparency of his background. After all... he does not name a single one of his teachers on his website. You would think he would at least give them a little credit.
On his website it says he learned from 7 Yang style teachers and names the 2 that a lot of the teachings came from.
Was that werdum in their
Yeah, Werdum, Machida and Thanasis Michaloudis.
Thanks for sharing
For the love of God, where can I watch this documentary? :(
Nice explanation!
In the neutral stands in wc is way more powerful than a long stands useing the spine
I laugh at Adam fist bumping his top knuckle 😂
This is so awesome! When I did a live training with Sifu Adam there was this big, 6’6” guy who was pushing everyone around (with subtle ego) and I didn’t get the chance to see Sifu work with him. And so I always wondered… Not anymore! And love the final fist bump the two of them do and the massive size difference between them! Can’t wait to see this film. Sounds like
Morgan Freeman narrates too!
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No disrespect to Tai Chi and its practitioners, but, there's nothing special or mystical or anything to what the Tai Chi practitioner did. He just disrupted Brian Shaw's balance who seemed to have a straight, stiff lower body form. I'd to like to see that be tried against a wrestler, boxer, Muay Thai or a MMArtist who's more keen on practical physical balancing. Or, actually, just let Brian Shaw slightly bend his knees to be able to really balance.😅
He does it on lyoto machida and fabricio werdum
@@thelostadventurer3872 Well, I don't really like speculating. I don't know what the agreements were between them, but, just one look at those presentations, an objective eye would see it for what it was.😅 Their moves weren't as natural as if they were fighting inside the octagon. I'm pretty sure you've seen them grapple and pummel their ooponents, right?
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Agreed. Good comment.Tai Chi is good for health and recovery and maybe augmentation. But it shouldn't be advertised as generating super human powers or as a modern day fighting art. Basically if Tai Chi looks like a fighting art then it's no longer Tai Chi lol ✌🏿
The link to the movie doesn't seem to work
very good,the problem is when punch come whithout contact
I like it, very different perception of power!
"Not use martial arts techniques but just use the chi" is a meaningless statement. It doesn't translate to anything at all.
that is like saying dont use martial arts but do use martial arts?
It makes sense. It means to not use leverage and technique but to use the internal energy from a position of disadvantage in terms of leverage.
@@therealchristophernomiddle376 not how physics works. I do internal martial arts. You still need to have good form, otherwise you’re just stronger than the other guy. This is utter bull shit dude
@@therealchristophernomiddle376 if your technique is bad and you’re not strong, you cannot fight. I don’t care how well the chi flows, that’s for health. Maybe that chi will help you survive when you get the absolute shit kicked out of you.
@@therealchristophernomiddle376 you ever see a tai chi master with poor external form?
Very cool. Enjoyable
Do you know what happened to the film? Can't find it anywhere.
Unfortunately the film maker has removed it.
Ty
Very inspiring.
would you suggest mark rasmus online class instead as he was adam's teacher?
I only have direct experience with Adam's online course and can tell you it is excellent, I haven't learned from Mark.
strangely enough the documentary is not to be found anywhere anymore
Yes it's weird for the producer to spend so much money on it then it disappears.
i've been looking to find a copy of that documentary for a week now, no chance. also i read some comments where people bought some tai chi course that was offered alongside with it and complained about not receiving any download link or the quality of the course was not up to par what was advertised or sth like that. i am just sad there is no way for me to watch it @@heavenmanearthperth325
Any idea when the release date of the film?
Hi John, unfortunately the film seems to have been removed. Seems strange after going to all that effort and expense to produce what I thought was a decent doco.
very nice i love it. About fighting in these exercises and/or skills...it doesn't matter, that's not what this is about. I have been practicing martial art Karate-Aikido-Tai Chi for 44 years and I get the most pleasure from similar exercises with much heavier people. The true art is feeling your partner as Adam explains.
Lovely.
Can you train this on your own or do you need a partner? I can't always guarantee a training partner but i personally can train everyday and would love to do Adam Mizners training course! Basically I'd struggle with push hands and don't know all about it, but I'm obsessed with Adam Mizner and other's alike in the tai chi world but want to train properly instead of just clips i want full guidance in training and some understanding if i can train fully alone if that's possible or not I'd love to know before i sign up. Cheers and thanks for the video, so amazing!
Hi Steve, the solo elements of the training are the most important aspect. That is what creates the transformation and where the real benefits are. The partner training serves as a feedback to further correct and improve your solo training. Then of course for martial skill partner training is important. But for the most valuable rewards of what this art brings it is all in the solo training so go for it.
@@heavenmanearthperth325 I'm probably one of the most happiest people on planet earth now, thank you so much for commenting back much appreciated! Thank you
@@stevehulbert4690 great to hear! Discover Taiji is such a thorough course. I would also recommend getting along to touch one of the teachers if you ever get the opportunity. As in person learning is also invaluable for getting specific personal corrections. Or attend a workshop. Might even meet you at one some time. If so come and say hi. From Julius.
@@heavenmanearthperth325 sifu Julius thanks for information. It's alot to take on, I'm still looking into it. The thing is i wanted to start using my gym i just bought and i lift alot of weights at work in everyday life but yet Adam tells us we can't go home and do press ups because it will ruin the training, so I'm very confused. I've been looking at sifu Mark Rasmus also and he's talking about doing exercises with weights so yes I'm very confused at this point. If I'm going to do this i want to be the best! Thanks sifu Julius 👊
@@stevehulbert4690 It just comes down to what is important to you. Lifting weights will counter the Taiji training to the degree that you do it. You could compromise by doing less of it. Lifting weights creates contraction which will shorten the muscles and tissue whereas in Taiji we want to open the joints and open and lengthen the tissue to then be able to conduct Qi through the fascia. But that can't happen when the muscles are seized or contracted. So yes lifting will go against that process of transforming the body that is a requirement for internal Taiji skill. But in the end you have to do what you like to do. It just depends on what you want from it. Lifting will give you isolated hard force in different parts of your body and make you look good in summer. Over time Taiji will give you full body internal power, martial skill, great health and spiritual development. Neither are right or wrong, life is just about priorities and choice. Then we become the result of those choices.
Morgan Freebone!
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Is the film going to ever be available again? @@heavenmanearthperth325
Two totally different examples. First guy is pushing the big guy and he's in turn pushing back no way he can push the big guy back head on. I guarantee you if the tai chi guy did the same he would also fail. The difference is the tai chi guy pulls and pushes the big guy in opposite direction putting him off balance by using his weight against him as the big guy tries to steady himself doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what he is doing lol
That made no sense
@@paulpolpiboon9535 that's because you have none 🤭
@@paulpolpiboon9535 he’s chaining the pushing and pulling motions to disturb the opponents center of gravity
Exactly. And then packaging it as "chi power"
@@tsaxondale2499 no loser lol its throwing your opponent off balance. I must be a tai chi master if by going off your comment lol
Grand master wai lu. Chois studied shing yee pakua ,tai ch and liu ho ba fa under master chan yick yan . He 83 now but totally amazing hes great to talk to very openminded very combative amazing chi power.He had a book done on him real gold does not fear the fire .
Chan Yick Yan is a great master whom Bruce Lee has visited in 60's for his creation of JKD.
But that has not been documented.
X?????????????? The muscle guy didn't seem to exert hisself. Where if he dug down, put his mind into it like he does lifting the barbell, he'd probably be a bulldozer, seem like anyway. Then how can one tell if this is real???
That's what this documentary is all about: showing that this is real. If certified multiple MMA champions and a strongest man in the world champion tell you it's real, but you still don't believe it... You need to go try for yourself.
The big guy was out of breath after that!!
power of cheese. knowing a physics trick that a strongman or mma guys is unfamiliar with.
Insulting something doesn't change its results
@@symbolsarenotreality4595 it also doesn’t make it chi 😂
@@McDojoLife how would you know? lol
@@symbolsarenotreality4595 because chi is nonsense and made up. 🤷🏻♂️
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@@McDojoLife Right so because you say its made up it is? lol
All you do mate is cash in on saying everything is made up without even experiencing it for yourself which is just arrogant profiteering nonsense.
Now that Adam has some big names in this video you must be salivating to cash in.
If you got so much cash mate why dont you go find out for yourself and train with him? lol
Bet you got some nice rhetoric to come back with, some more sales pitches?
Sooo like rocking a fridge?