I love that you’ve stuck with the single pivot design. Less bearings, less creaking.. just like a motorcycle. Have you tried it with one of those onyx vesper hubs? I imagine the ride would be even quieter
Seems like a great idea, no need to lube the chain. But this rear triangle does not allow a Carbon gates belt drive, as you need a split in the seat stay or something to get it trough. So in this case he would need to go for Veer Split Belt Pro, it's a belt that has a split in it.
I would love a belt drive (and have used them before with success, I have a gravel bike with one at home) but that adds another layer of expense and complication that I can't really justify right now. The chain is OK and is much easier to source and fit.
Thanks for getting a mic! I’m impressed how supple the fork is at the 62° HTA. I’m on a similar journey, trying to figure out what feels best on a MTB. Right now, the solution is to own different bikes for different disciplines, but there’s always an adjustment when swapping between them. A gearbox / Ti frame is a very, very enticing combo
Its actually the third mic I got, but the first one that actually works with an iphone haha! I don't think the Ti is necessary at all, I only did it to try and appease some weight weenies and because, well, my job is making these things. If I was just getting one to ride myself the steel is absolutely fine and much cheaper.
8:40 Any reason why you did not go for barrel nuts at the post mounts? I see it would not work in this particular design as there is not enough room at the front. But wouldn't this be a good idea, like Nicolai uses.
I just asked Egerie to build it for me and thats what mount I got! He uses many off the shelf frame components and I don't know if there is a barrel nut option, plus this frame is steel rear so less likely to damage threads than in a alloy frame
8:10 Which with were the tyres? 2.40 seems to be common these days. I've not tried the,, but tried 2.40 Michelin Wild Enduro, they felt really good at 23mm rims, but felt great at 30mm, in cornering, and even when doing fakies, but they seem so qear a bit quickly, but bead does not look like I took sandpaper to it like on Maxxis. So far two pairs of Michelin tyres al straight, none were warped, and thread was aligned. it was never the case on Maxxis for me. Most were warped from new and got much worse. Bead seems to be great on Michelin, but I did not ride them as much so not a fair comparison. But I will definitely keep an eye on what you think about tyres.
@@janeblogs324 I think he means narrow rim at the rear and wide at the front. Hybrid means it's a mix of things. But I am just assuming. So 30mm front and 25mm rear for example would be hybrid. Seen it on some Geometron G1 builds
Could you run this fixed gear to do pedaless-shifting? Wild setup, love to see your developments. Dunno how you get along with so much backsweep on the bars, Paul!!!
Epic build, as always!!! I just have one question: having the pinion system, so only one sprocket on the rear wheel, could it be viable, or even better, to use a single speed hub, like the paul components word, instead of converting a normal one? Like you said, the more symmetrical is the wheel, the better
Yes it would be. On this build I went for 157x12 to make it easier for me testing and changing lots of parts all the time between bikes. Pinion actually make their own hubs too,which would work well.
It's a matter of setting your suspension up correctly. My Megatower can do the same thing on both wheels at the same time as well. Any bike can do it if it's balanced right.
Obviously I'm not setting it up for a ghost rider. As I said. If your suspension is balanced, it can do it. In my opinion, an unbalanced suspension will not be a good ride feel anyway.
@@gregvarga753 Yes, but depending on what "balanced" means to a rider, and rider weight, and obviously the bike, it might or might not stick to the ground like that. So it's not necessarily a good or a bad thing. Certainly looks cool, though.
@@gregvarga753 so guess i dont know what im doing then. Would you care to enlighten me on how you go about setting it up that way? I have a Hightower V2 which only takes an air shock.
Spherical bearings help reduce transverse(any loading that is not directly on the shock axis) loading. This can result in reduced overall friction, as well as longer life for the shock. For a long time, the arms supporting the shocks on bicycles were not stiff enough for this to matter, often by design. On modern carbon fiber designs in particular, the arms are often extremely stiff, but the industry has not responded by changing the shock supports.
Exactly what he said! The friction can be quite a lot on a shock shaft considering the force that is going through it - it only needs to be a little out of line to create a lot of friction
when it comes to the chainstay length, it's more down to the goal of the bike. is it for fun or for racing? but the gearbox is amazing, no matter if you are riding for fun or racing your gonna be smashing off derailleurs, not interested in derailleur bikes anymore after watching your vids. they just suck for mtbs.
I think this might just be out of my "rockshox judys are pretty good" league. Looks like a guy built it in his shed and will be lots of fun though. Just make sure you have a jersey with enough logos on it to go really fast.
You've gotta admit that gripshift is shithouse. Having to twist your wrist around the bar every time you change gears would be absolutely shocking in the middle of a race. As soon as pinion comes out with a regular shifter it'll be sweet as
The gripshift isn't ideal, but I don't mind it too much: I have some experience riding Moto's so am used to the wrist movement. After a few months riding a Pinion system you learn that there are lots of benefits to be had when being able to shift at nearly anytime: you''ll find yourself changing gear on descents when braking and can see the next climb coming up, for example.
I'm not hating or anything, I'm happy for you and i believe in functionality of this bike 200% but in my opinion this is the ugliest bike ever, visually
Definitely the mtb holy grail as far as I'm concerned. Awesome build Paul.
you should call it Myo-Pinion
Absolute genius 😂
Been waiting for this for what seems like forever. Best MTB channel on the toob.
I want something like this as an ebike, so I can bang out more DH runs everyday where I live
Bike looks very interesting
What a beast. Definitely a great bike.
Holy sh!t, audio isn't trash for once
Stunning 🤩 🤞🏼I win the frame comp!
I love that you’ve stuck with the single pivot design. Less bearings, less creaking.. just like a motorcycle. Have you tried it with one of those onyx vesper hubs? I imagine the ride would be even quieter
Nice gloves
The only thing to change now is to convert it to belt drive 😊 What do you think Paul?
Seems like a great idea, no need to lube the chain. But this rear triangle does not allow a Carbon gates belt drive, as you need a split in the seat stay or something to get it trough.
So in this case he would need to go for Veer Split Belt Pro, it's a belt that has a split in it.
I would love a belt drive (and have used them before with success, I have a gravel bike with one at home) but that adds another layer of expense and complication that I can't really justify right now. The chain is OK and is much easier to source and fit.
That looks epic!
What a beast of a bike 💪
Thanks for getting a mic!
I’m impressed how supple the fork is at the 62° HTA.
I’m on a similar journey, trying to figure out what feels best on a MTB. Right now, the solution is to own different bikes for different disciplines, but there’s always an adjustment when swapping between them. A gearbox / Ti frame is a very, very enticing combo
Its actually the third mic I got, but the first one that actually works with an iphone haha!
I don't think the Ti is necessary at all, I only did it to try and appease some weight weenies and because, well, my job is making these things. If I was just getting one to ride myself the steel is absolutely fine and much cheaper.
8:40 Any reason why you did not go for barrel nuts at the post mounts? I see it would not work in this particular design as there is not enough room at the front. But wouldn't this be a good idea, like Nicolai uses.
I just asked Egerie to build it for me and thats what mount I got! He uses many off the shelf frame components and I don't know if there is a barrel nut option, plus this frame is steel rear so less likely to damage threads than in a alloy frame
8:10 Which with were the tyres? 2.40 seems to be common these days. I've not tried the,, but tried 2.40 Michelin Wild Enduro, they felt really good at 23mm rims, but felt great at 30mm, in cornering, and even when doing fakies, but they seem so qear a bit quickly, but bead does not look like I took sandpaper to it like on Maxxis. So far two pairs of Michelin tyres al straight, none were warped, and thread was aligned. it was never the case on Maxxis for me. Most were warped from new and got much worse. Bead seems to be great on Michelin, but I did not ride them as much so not a fair comparison.
But I will definitely keep an eye on what you think about tyres.
I could, but I'm fully convinced by hybrid setup at the moment.
@@astonmtb2428 🤔 Hybrid? Do you mean narrower rim at the rear?
What is this hybrid you speak of?
@@janeblogs324 I think he means narrow rim at the rear and wide at the front. Hybrid means it's a mix of things. But I am just assuming. So 30mm front and 25mm rear for example would be hybrid. Seen it on some Geometron G1 builds
Looks amazing. Love this channel. Was just wondering have you tried the Effigear Mimic gearbox?, Also are you running any tyre inserts?
He had a starling with the effigear mimic and had a bunch of reliability issues with the gearbox.
@@alanbonk3542 It was the original Effigear box on the Starling, not the Mimic
Could you run this fixed gear to do pedaless-shifting? Wild setup, love to see your developments. Dunno how you get along with so much backsweep on the bars, Paul!!!
You don't need to pedal to shift a Pinion 'box
Epic build, as always!!! I just have one question: having the pinion system, so only one sprocket on the rear wheel, could it be viable, or even better, to use a single speed hub, like the paul components word, instead of converting a normal one? Like you said, the more symmetrical is the wheel, the better
Yes it would be. On this build I went for 157x12 to make it easier for me testing and changing lots of parts all the time between bikes. Pinion actually make their own hubs too,which would work well.
14:30 I would love to have a gearbox, but I need oval chainring or my knees will be in agony.
Sounds like you need shorter cranks.
It still runs a chainring, so just use an oval
Is there a particular reason for not goin full 29 ? Or just personal preference regarding the kind of trails you usually ride?
What advantage does the spherical bushings have over regular bushings?
Less bending forces on the shock eyelets = less friction
What is the brand of the spherical bushings?
www.DHsign.it
zero affiliation but seem like a good product.
its pretty amazing how you can slam that back wheel down and it just sticks there lol
It's a matter of setting your suspension up correctly. My Megatower can do the same thing on both wheels at the same time as well. Any bike can do it if it's balanced right.
@@gregvarga753 But it doesn't really mean anything, you can't set your bike up based on how it reacts with a ghost rider on it.
Obviously I'm not setting it up for a ghost rider. As I said. If your suspension is balanced, it can do it. In my opinion, an unbalanced suspension will not be a good ride feel anyway.
@@gregvarga753 Yes, but depending on what "balanced" means to a rider, and rider weight, and obviously the bike, it might or might not stick to the ground like that. So it's not necessarily a good or a bad thing. Certainly looks cool, though.
@@gregvarga753 so guess i dont know what im doing then. Would you care to enlighten me on how you go about setting it up that way? I have a Hightower V2 which only takes an air shock.
Do the shock bearings keep stress off the shock then? Allowing it to move freely?
Spherical bearings help reduce transverse(any loading that is not directly on the shock axis) loading. This can result in reduced overall friction, as well as longer life for the shock. For a long time, the arms supporting the shocks on bicycles were not stiff enough for this to matter, often by design. On modern carbon fiber designs in particular, the arms are often extremely stiff, but the industry has not responded by changing the shock supports.
Exactly what he said!
The friction can be quite a lot on a shock shaft considering the force that is going through it - it only needs to be a little out of line to create a lot of friction
Can you fit a 29er rear wheel into the frame?
There's more than enough space with the 490mm chainstays
Hi Paul, nice bike. Will you try obsys fork?
Sounds like it doesn't it?
@@lastgentleman8099 BOS make more then one fork
@@poloyx1 I am well aware of that. Just hoping it's their best upside down one!
how did you fit spherical bearings in the shock?
I just bought them from www.dhsign.it!
when it comes to the chainstay length, it's more down to the goal of the bike. is it for fun or for racing? but the gearbox is amazing, no matter if you are riding for fun or racing your gonna be smashing off derailleurs, not interested in derailleur bikes anymore after watching your vids. they just suck for mtbs.
Check out Zerode bikes. They have a new DH bike, G3. Belt drive, High pivot, Pinion gearbox, By far the best looking bike I have seen.
Yes, I have seen that puppy and am on the pre-order list since before it was launched ;-)
I have a G2 in the garage too!
I think this might just be out of my "rockshox judys are pretty good" league. Looks like a guy built it in his shed and will be lots of fun though. Just make sure you have a jersey with enough logos on it to go really fast.
Hi, Is the + 10 mm BB "rise" from rear hub? So BB height around 365mm?
Yes I believe that's how its measured
From the average of front and rear axle
Now it's time to find a way to harness a motor and a battery to this horse and go for an electrified ride !
You've gotta admit that gripshift is shithouse. Having to twist your wrist around the bar every time you change gears would be absolutely shocking in the middle of a race. As soon as pinion comes out with a regular shifter it'll be sweet as
take a look at effigear mimic box, 468% range and has regular shifters
The gripshift isn't ideal, but I don't mind it too much: I have some experience riding Moto's so am used to the wrist movement. After a few months riding a Pinion system you learn that there are lots of benefits to be had when being able to shift at nearly anytime: you''ll find yourself changing gear on descents when braking and can see the next climb coming up, for example.
Alllll that thought that went into building the frame and 50cent hillbilly tape steering stops....facepalm...
They are the standard Manitou fork bumpers?
Hubble is just not you bro 😊
I always knew I wasn't a massive telescope!
@@astonmtb2428 Fark!! lol true dat
I'm not hating or anything, I'm happy for you and i believe in functionality of this bike 200% but in my opinion this is the ugliest bike ever, visually