09:44 Hell of a cliff-hanger. You are posting New Bike Day so often now that you must keep Egerie Velo very busy. It's like watching the bike industry getting reinvented weekly! (grabbing pop-corn) Version 3 will be amazing. Better get a good fender, with the rear shock exposed to so much dirt. Get creative with an Ass-saver and some zip-ties.
The steel bike definitely had a rat rod vibe, but this ti frame is straight up HOT 🥵 I like how you’re experimenting with bb heights above the axles. I think it makes a ton of sense with how slack your HTA’s are and how long the chainstays are. I’m imagining raising the bb as these factors get longer, you maintain the same angle from bb to contact patches which may prevent some of the negative handling that’s typically associated with long and slack bikes
You can understand why the majority of frame builders will say no to “the customer is always right” approach as it’s their name on it. In your case you understand what you want, many wouldn’t!
I think you're right in saying you don't need a massive team to make good bikes but I don't think one guy in his shed scales very well. One dude can't weld up 10s or 100s of frames a day so the price is going to be too high for most people. Also the high volume production of consumer grade stuff is good for the dude in his shed because it means standardised components are readily available to slap onto the custom one of a kind frames they are knocking up.
Hi Paul, thanks for the informative video, great to find out about some small scale frame builders willing to do what you ask of them. Was that €3800 price you mentioned including the Pinion gearbox ? Cheers, Craig
I would guess more travel combined with more low speed damping than the any Starling, plus the Kitsuma has the best climb mode and full lockout of any shock on the market for some extra help.
I thought one of the main advantages to Atherton's "additive manufacturing" approach was the ability to make cutom Geo. Otherwise might as well produce cast lugs to join the carbon tubes ??
09:44 Hell of a cliff-hanger. You are posting New Bike Day so often now that you must keep Egerie Velo very busy. It's like watching the bike industry getting reinvented weekly! (grabbing pop-corn) Version 3 will be amazing. Better get a good fender, with the rear shock exposed to so much dirt. Get creative with an Ass-saver and some zip-ties.
Love my Egerie hardtail! Light, fun and durable. Really increadible value for money as well!
The price for that is unreal. The only Problem is that most ppl dont have the experience to Tell the builder all the numbers like you did
This mk2 is gonna be epic!
Can't believe you went ti up front 😳. So cool.😎
No crashing aloud 🫣 this frame is too nice 👌 😍
The steel bike definitely had a rat rod vibe, but this ti frame is straight up HOT 🥵 I like how you’re experimenting with bb heights above the axles. I think it makes a ton of sense with how slack your HTA’s are and how long the chainstays are. I’m imagining raising the bb as these factors get longer, you maintain the same angle from bb to contact patches which may prevent some of the negative handling that’s typically associated with long and slack bikes
You can understand why the majority of frame builders will say no to “the customer is always right” approach as it’s their name on it. In your case you understand what you want, many wouldn’t!
Yep, that's fair. But sometimes we need people who can consider something outside the box.
I think you're right in saying you don't need a massive team to make good bikes but I don't think one guy in his shed scales very well.
One dude can't weld up 10s or 100s of frames a day so the price is going to be too high for most people.
Also the high volume production of consumer grade stuff is good for the dude in his shed because it means standardised components are readily available to slap onto the custom one of a kind frames they are knocking up.
Hi Paul, thanks for the informative video, great to find out about some small scale frame builders willing to do what you ask of them. Was that €3800 price you mentioned including the Pinion gearbox ?
Cheers,
Craig
Have you tried to get in touch with Terra Bikes? I'd love to hear about from you
What are geometry numbers for the titanium frame? You mentioned the rear center, how about wheelbase/stack/reach/angles?
How thick is titanium tubes?
how much was the full steel beast?
€1800 for the frame without paint and some other small parts I already had.
Starling inspired, much? :) Starling does not get good reviews for climbing. Often lots of pedal bob. Is your bike different in that sense?
I would guess more travel combined with more low speed damping than the any Starling, plus the Kitsuma has the best climb mode and full lockout of any shock on the market for some extra help.
I've got a Starling Murmur and it's actually pretty nice to climb with.
I thought one of the main advantages to Atherton's "additive manufacturing" approach was the ability to make cutom Geo. Otherwise might as well produce cast lugs to join the carbon tubes ??