Women get offended when guys below their looksmatch approach them. Hell, nowadays most of them think theyre 9s and 10s even if theyre a 4. They get upset at the guy for having the audacity to think that he has a shot with her. She sees it as insulting. It's brutal out here.
Agreed man! It's brutal out here in these streets. Guys hear "Women love confidence" but in reality they like confident guys they find attractive lol it's easier to sell the "just be confident" dream to men as there's a lot of money to be made.
the problem nowadays is that their worth is overinflated, a mid tier becky has infinite value while a mtn has to scrap the bottom of the barrel or get lucky
"Have confidence" is the most irritating piece of dating advice. 1) If you're hot, you're already confident because people treat you well and assume the best intentions from you. 2) If you're hot and somehow have zero confidence, people still find you endearing and humble. 3) If you receive frequent, emphatic rejections, you are receiving direct empirical feedback that undermines the development of confidence. Being unconfident if you're normie or below is normal because you consistently achieve the lowest tier of outcomes. How would that possibly breed confidence?
Thanks man! I appreciate that. I try to be very realistic about the blackpill from my experiences but also discuss ways to improve. I've found that most people can improve their appearance 1-1.5 points and give themselves a better chance. Some creators will say any guy can be a 7 or an 8 but it's simply not true and they are selling a pipe dream. I try to be more realistic and this is also just a hobby for me so I can tell like it is more than the guys who do this for a living.
@@ascended266 Thanks for your honesty, and I commend you for ascending, and I congratulate you on your success with vvomen. In your case, it sounds like you were previously on the less extreme on the i.ncel spectrum (when i use the word spectrum, I'm not referring to Aspergers), and with some self work you have transformed yourself into a (no homo here), a physically attractive man, that vvoman desire and more power to you. Unfortunately, some men are so physically repulsive (like me for example), no amount of self work (regardless of good their personalities may be), will make them attractive to vvomen, but that's life, and life isn't fair
Confidence certainly helps if you’re kinda mid in looks, I’m shy as hell but still every girl I’ve ever spoken to hasn’t had a problem with it cos they found me good looking anyways so they just made it work by leading the conversation and I eventually came out of my shell
@@GuyFierisShirt Girl says - I need a guy that is 6-0 +, I tell her bullshiat you will BENdover for a guy that is dead and 5 inches long; and put a Franklin on the table.
The answer is none. I could be shy and weird and still attracted my first gf because she thought I was good looking. If I was overly confident and charismatic with other girls I'm super into it wouldn't do anything. You hit the nail on the head here man. I'm short and unattractive, and it didn't matter how confident I was (which I was) I didn't get any girls I was attracted to. Most men just settle for whoever comes along. Here is a video idea for you, maybe you can answer this question. Do you think that most men just settle for whatever chick comes along (if you're ugly or unattractive)? This is the case for me for sure. Do you think those men could escape it without having money? Do you also think that men that settle are never really satisfied because they really want other hotter women? I've seen scenarios in my personal life where men don't really want to be with their gf and constantly look at other chicks because they can't get any better. Most men I think just get whatever girl, and wish they could be with others.
Women wouldn't even bother taking the time to admire how brave you are if you approach to her because the very first thing that will go through her head is that you're stalking on her... by getting into her personal space without her authorization and to be honest that's very invasive. just keep in mind that women need to give the first step by giving you subtle signs of attraction toward you, sometimes these signs might not be that subtle but blatant if she finds you irresistible attractive otherwise it won't work.
I think it's very nuanced. There are definitely women that respect it when a guy approaches them but most don't because they are used to tons of guys approaching them especially if they live in a big city. I don't necessarily think approaching a woman is invasive. It's only invasive if the girl obviously is showing signs she doesn't want to be approached. I agree that it's much more ideal to approach a girl that is already showing you signs of interest than a girl that has seen you but hasn't given any signals to you.
Confidence is only attractive to vvomen, IF, and only IF said vvoman finds you PHYSICALLY attractive to begin with, and you can only be as confident with a vvoman as she allows you to be. Here's my definition of the word confidence and how to relates to attracting vvomen. Confidence is a SELF ASSURED FEELING (free of self doubt), that one will achieve a positive or favourable outcome based on previous success, or previous performance accomplishment. Look at the three critical words that define confidence (SELF ASSURED FEELING). This means that when you're interacting with a vvoman (that you have a romantic/intimate interest in), and she is giving you, negative, hostile,combative body language ie.dirty looks, the silent treatment, back turns, one word answers etc, your confidence (ie. that SELF ASSURED FEELING), will plummet, because you know you're being rejected. On the other hand, if vvoman you're interacting with is giving you positive, warm inviting body language ie. she moves in your personal space, or allows you to move in on her personal space, she constantly touches and smiles at you, she enthusiastically engages in conversation with you, your confidence or that SELF ASSURED feeling, will increase, because you know there's good chance you're going to get lucky. When vvomen say they are attracted to confidence, what they are really saying is, "us vvomen are attracted to tall, good looking men, who have the confidence to approach us, after we have them the green light to do so". So telling an below average to ugly looking man to just have "confidence", is akin to pouring syrup on sh*.it, and calling it pancakes. Confidence is the byproduct of success, it's not the cause of it.
Would be interested in a video or videos about your successes with women after the glow up. In the middle of one myself and it would be cool to hear about the light at the end of the tunnel from a guy who has been on both ends of this
I dubbed this saying myself. "What some call confidence can either be disillusion or the confirmation of what someone predetermined about you." And those out comes are based on looks.
If you're handsome, you're confident and intelligent, a go-getter. If you're ugly, you're arrogant and a know-it-all, pushy. Doesn't matter how subtle you are, anytime you put yourself in a good light, even if its just a little, it will be perceived as arrogance not just by girls. The Blackpill steals another soul once again.
when you lost alot of weight did those female friends change the way the treat. Like you have a female friend thats just platonic but now she wants to get with you.
Jane Birkin said that she found Serge Gainsbourgh physically repulsive the first time he approached her, and I believe she is telling the truth. I think what you are saying is ~generally~ true, but not always
Majority of black pill content is created by people who never closely interacted with men who get laid a lot and easily. They just observe chads from a far distance and dont know the underlying dynamic. There is a whole phenomenon of so called ugly sexy men, which is totally overlooked, because it doesn't fit into black pill orthodoxy. Of course those ugly sexy men do not appear like sub-five males, even though their face might be similar, because the demeanour, presences, body language, etc. would be completely different.
One detail to remember is that women have considerable variety in their preferences, turn-ons, and turnoffs. A woman can be a 7, and can be repulsed by a suave, confident guy who is a 4 just because his appearance is so lacking. However, another woman might also be a 7, and yet she might be delighted by the same guy's humor, personality, etc. The amount of weight a women will put on a man's confidence (or lack thereof) is quite variable--and it usually can be determined only by interacting with them. At least we can say that neither good looks nor confidence will hurt you.
Haha I actually think they would agree with almost all of these points. They know that you need to be somewhat attractive to a girl for your confidence to work.
Definitely back when I was like a 4/10 mostly just due to my weight. I remember I asked this girl to hangout she lied and told me she would be in the gym for 4 hours 😂😂 back then I didn’t think it was because of looks I just thought she may have thought I was weird.
Good video. This is like trying to purchase a vehicle that has good features and performance but, you cant get over how ugly it looks. Its such a downer that you cant overlook it.
Agreed! They're great for casual stuff but I never understood why most guys in this space go to bars if they're mainly looking for a pure, sweet girl for a relationship
@@TheRadFire yep you’ll just find a gold digger or a wh*re at a club..I know a girl who often went clubbing and she was both of those things, no thank you
Yep! To be honest, I always thought Chadlite was kind of a cringy name and had a very narcissistic vibe to it which doesn't match who I am. I personally like Ascended much better because it describes the journey I went through of losing the weight, restoring my hairline, working on myself, etc. without the negative connotation that the name Chadlite has.
Here's the 💯 Honest Truth. It helps out "Big Time" but only if you are either naturally a 5.5 or above, or you Looks-Max to become at least above a 5. It's like "Crack" if you at least meet the bare minimum of her Looks Threshold.
Tbh Ive been working at a night club for a year and a half, ive seen plenty of average guys do pretty decent with women from to time. But yes there is some that get rejected too. Ive also seen plenty of normie looking dudes with cute/hot girlfriends in life too due to other factors. But yer confidence isnt always a solution, in some cases other things such as looks and phenotype, and sometimes money. (But keep an eye out for gold diggers though) The kind of cases where you are truly in trouble is if.. you are like a 3 and below..
Yeah, there are definitely other factors that come into play other than your looks especially in a nightclub like money, status, how well socially connected you are in that nightclub, etc.
Just don’t be neurodivergent bro!! Literally, just be neurotypical. A little bit of shyness is okay, but if you can’t even make eye contact or have a speech impediment. That will make a woman drier than the Sahara desert.
In some cultures eye contact is seen as rude (Persian/Armenian culture for example). I hate American culture that forces you to do this, I still refuse, if I'm speaking to someone i do not need to be staring at them like a freak. This is an example of Western bastardization of behavior.
As an Armenian guy, I disagree. Walking down the street, I frequently have women trying to make eye contact with me, sometimes even giving me a flirtatious/friendly smile
Women get offended when guys below their looksmatch approach them. Hell, nowadays most of them think theyre 9s and 10s even if theyre a 4. They get upset at the guy for having the audacity to think that he has a shot with her. She sees it as insulting. It's brutal out here.
Agreed man! It's brutal out here in these streets. Guys hear "Women love confidence" but in reality they like confident guys they find attractive lol it's easier to sell the "just be confident" dream to men as there's a lot of money to be made.
That’s tru I heard many vvomen say that… leggo 🚀
@@ascended266 Yup. Just be confident and an 8 out of 10, bro.
@@handsomeX Preach lol
the problem nowadays is that their worth is overinflated, a mid tier becky has infinite value while a mtn has to scrap the bottom of the barrel or get lucky
"Have confidence" is the most irritating piece of dating advice.
1) If you're hot, you're already confident because people treat you well and assume the best intentions from you.
2) If you're hot and somehow have zero confidence, people still find you endearing and humble.
3) If you receive frequent, emphatic rejections, you are receiving direct empirical feedback that undermines the development of confidence. Being unconfident if you're normie or below is normal because you consistently achieve the lowest tier of outcomes. How would that possibly breed confidence?
I like this channel because the creator is able to combine the reality of the blackpill with some sense of hope
Thanks man! I appreciate that. I try to be very realistic about the blackpill from my experiences but also discuss ways to improve. I've found that most people can improve their appearance 1-1.5 points and give themselves a better chance. Some creators will say any guy can be a 7 or an 8 but it's simply not true and they are selling a pipe dream. I try to be more realistic and this is also just a hobby for me so I can tell like it is more than the guys who do this for a living.
@@ascended266
Thanks for your honesty, and I commend you for ascending, and I congratulate you on your success with vvomen.
In your case, it sounds like you were previously on the less extreme on the i.ncel spectrum (when i use the word spectrum, I'm not referring to Aspergers), and with some self work you have transformed yourself into a (no homo here), a physically attractive man, that vvoman desire and more power to you.
Unfortunately, some men are so physically repulsive (like me for example), no amount of self work (regardless of good their personalities may be), will make them attractive to vvomen, but that's life, and life isn't fair
Confidence certainly helps if you’re kinda mid in looks, I’m shy as hell but still every girl I’ve ever spoken to hasn’t had a problem with it cos they found me good looking anyways so they just made it work by leading the conversation and I eventually came out of my shell
Agreed! I think confidence helps when you're at least slightly above average looking.
Just be *CONFIDENT* but also be tall, rich, fit, famous, powerful and a bit of a thug - but mostly *TALL*
FACTS haha
I'm tall, I wish the heightpill was true.................
@@GuyFierisShirt Girl says - I need a guy that is 6-0 +, I tell her bullshiat you will BENdover for a guy that is dead and 5 inches long; and put a Franklin on the table.
Tall, rich, famous, powerful and GOOD LOOKING but mostly GOOD LOOKING. Fixed it for you
The answer is none. I could be shy and weird and still attracted my first gf because she thought I was good looking. If I was overly confident and charismatic with other girls I'm super into it wouldn't do anything. You hit the nail on the head here man. I'm short and unattractive, and it didn't matter how confident I was (which I was) I didn't get any girls I was attracted to. Most men just settle for whoever comes along. Here is a video idea for you, maybe you can answer this question. Do you think that most men just settle for whatever chick comes along (if you're ugly or unattractive)? This is the case for me for sure. Do you think those men could escape it without having money? Do you also think that men that settle are never really satisfied because they really want other hotter women? I've seen scenarios in my personal life where men don't really want to be with their gf and constantly look at other chicks because they can't get any better. Most men I think just get whatever girl, and wish they could be with others.
That’s so depressing
@@dw4525 truth hurts
In my experience I’ve noticed that as a 5 dude, I have to be super smooth or have a bunch of social proof just to pull girls that are my looksmatch.
Women wouldn't even bother taking the time to admire how brave you are if you approach to her because the very first thing that will go through her head is that you're stalking on her... by getting into her personal space without her authorization and to be honest that's very invasive. just keep in mind that women need to give the first step by giving you subtle signs of attraction toward you, sometimes these signs might not be that subtle but blatant if she finds you irresistible attractive otherwise it won't work.
I think it's very nuanced. There are definitely women that respect it when a guy approaches them but most don't because they are used to tons of guys approaching them especially if they live in a big city. I don't necessarily think approaching a woman is invasive. It's only invasive if the girl obviously is showing signs she doesn't want to be approached. I agree that it's much more ideal to approach a girl that is already showing you signs of interest than a girl that has seen you but hasn't given any signals to you.
Confidence is only attractive to vvomen, IF, and only IF said vvoman finds you PHYSICALLY attractive to begin with, and you can only be as confident with a vvoman as she allows you to be.
Here's my definition of the word confidence and how to relates to attracting vvomen.
Confidence is a SELF ASSURED FEELING (free of self doubt), that one will achieve a positive or favourable outcome based on previous success, or previous performance accomplishment.
Look at the three critical words that define confidence (SELF ASSURED FEELING). This means that when you're interacting with a vvoman (that you have a romantic/intimate interest in), and she is giving you, negative, hostile,combative body language ie.dirty looks, the silent treatment, back turns, one word answers etc, your confidence (ie. that SELF ASSURED FEELING), will plummet, because you know you're being rejected.
On the other hand, if vvoman you're interacting with is giving you positive, warm inviting body language ie. she moves in your personal space, or allows you to move in on her personal space, she constantly touches and smiles at you, she enthusiastically engages in conversation with you, your confidence or that SELF ASSURED feeling, will increase, because you know there's good chance you're going to get lucky.
When vvomen say they are attracted to confidence, what they are really saying is, "us vvomen are attracted to tall, good looking men, who have the confidence to approach us, after we have them the green light to do so".
So telling an below average to ugly looking man to just have "confidence", is akin to pouring syrup on sh*.it, and calling it pancakes.
Confidence is the byproduct of success, it's not the cause of it.
Would be interested in a video or videos about your successes with women after the glow up. In the middle of one myself and it would be cool to hear about the light at the end of the tunnel from a guy who has been on both ends of this
Yes! This is a great video. I plan on making two videos in regards to this. Thanks for the suggestion!
TLDR, it's over and never began.
“I know it’s over” - The Smiths
I dubbed this saying myself. "What some call confidence can either be disillusion or the confirmation of what someone predetermined about you." And those out comes are based on looks.
Agreed!
If you're handsome, you're confident and intelligent, a go-getter. If you're ugly, you're arrogant and a know-it-all, pushy. Doesn't matter how subtle you are, anytime you put yourself in a good light, even if its just a little, it will be perceived as arrogance not just by girls. The Blackpill steals another soul once again.
when you lost alot of weight did those female friends change the way the treat. Like you have a female friend thats just platonic but now she wants to get with you.
Yes, they did actually. Their demeanor definitely changed a lot.
@ascended266 you should make a video on that
Jane Birkin said that she found Serge Gainsbourgh physically repulsive the first time he approached her, and I believe she is telling the truth.
I think what you are saying is ~generally~ true, but not always
Yeah, there are definitely exceptions to the rule for sure. I think in his case, it didn’t hurt that he was a famous musician.
Yeah, there are definitely exceptions to the rule for sure. I think in his case, it didn’t hurt that he was a famous musician.
Majority of black pill content is created by people who never closely interacted with men who get laid a lot and easily. They just observe chads from a far distance and dont know the underlying dynamic. There is a whole phenomenon of so called ugly sexy men, which is totally overlooked, because it doesn't fit into black pill orthodoxy. Of course those ugly sexy men do not appear like sub-five males, even though their face might be similar, because the demeanour, presences, body language, etc. would be completely different.
One detail to remember is that women have considerable variety in their preferences, turn-ons, and turnoffs. A woman can be a 7, and can be repulsed by a suave, confident guy who is a 4 just because his appearance is so lacking. However, another woman might also be a 7, and yet she might be delighted by the same guy's humor, personality, etc. The amount of weight a women will put on a man's confidence (or lack thereof) is quite variable--and it usually can be determined only by interacting with them. At least we can say that neither good looks nor confidence will hurt you.
Saint meeks please bless me
U better hope the red pill avengers don’t see this 😂😂
Haha I actually think they would agree with almost all of these points. They know that you need to be somewhat attractive to a girl for your confidence to work.
Definitely back when I was like a 4/10 mostly just due to my weight. I remember I asked this girl to hangout she lied and told me she would be in the gym for 4 hours 😂😂 back then I didn’t think it was because of looks I just thought she may have thought I was weird.
Good video.
This is like trying to purchase a vehicle that has good features and performance but, you cant get over how ugly it looks. Its such a downer that you cant overlook it.
The just change your name theory
Bars are the worst places to pick a girl up for a relationship, just saying
Agreed! They're great for casual stuff but I never understood why most guys in this space go to bars if they're mainly looking for a pure, sweet girl for a relationship
@@TheRadFire yep you’ll just find a gold digger or a wh*re at a club..I know a girl who often went clubbing and she was both of those things, no thank you
@@ThisTagIsStupid I said the worst place
Agreed! If you're looking for a relationship, they are probably the worst place outside of maybe a club or a festival.
Im average but 5'7 so never began
Confidence overrides looks
😅😂🤣
Haha a lot of people believe this
💯💯💯
100%!
You changed your name!
Yep! To be honest, I always thought Chadlite was kind of a cringy name and had a very narcissistic vibe to it which doesn't match who I am. I personally like Ascended much better because it describes the journey I went through of losing the weight, restoring my hairline, working on myself, etc. without the negative connotation that the name Chadlite has.
Confidence - Attraction = Creepy
Here's the 💯 Honest Truth. It helps out "Big Time" but only if you are either naturally a 5.5 or above, or you Looks-Max to become at least above a 5. It's like "Crack" if you at least meet the bare minimum of her Looks Threshold.
Tbh Ive been working at a night club for a year and a half, ive seen plenty of average guys do pretty decent with women from to time. But yes there is some that get rejected too.
Ive also seen plenty of normie looking dudes with cute/hot girlfriends in life too due to other factors.
But yer confidence isnt always a solution, in some cases other things such as looks and phenotype, and sometimes money. (But keep an eye out for gold diggers though)
The kind of cases where you are truly in trouble is if.. you are like a 3 and below..
Yeah, there are definitely other factors that come into play other than your looks especially in a nightclub like money, status, how well socially connected you are in that nightclub, etc.
Just don’t be neurodivergent bro!! Literally, just be neurotypical. A little bit of shyness is okay, but if you can’t even make eye contact or have a speech impediment. That will make a woman drier than the Sahara desert.
In some cultures eye contact is seen as rude (Persian/Armenian culture for example). I hate American culture that forces you to do this, I still refuse, if I'm speaking to someone i do not need to be staring at them like a freak. This is an example of Western bastardization of behavior.
As an Armenian guy, I disagree. Walking down the street, I frequently have women trying to make eye contact with me, sometimes even giving me a flirtatious/friendly smile
@@tyomkaramyan7966 Ok Ashot.
Just be Handsome bro that’s all it takes!!!!
Confidence only works with attraction, otherwise it comes across annoying