These cost breakdown videos are really good! Would be super helpful for anyone going down the rabbithole on a motor build so they have a ballpark figure to save up to!
I did pretty good then after looking at this. I picked up a MY9.5 VE SS wagon off my next door neighbour for $500. The car was on jack stands since the day I moved in. He said the starter motor died in it, then he purchased a new one, but bought the wrong type (there’s two types, clip or bolt style connectors) anyway he was going to call a scrap yard to pick it up as he had bought a new car, and I told him I would give him more than the few hundred bucks he had in mind. He helped me push it next door to my house, I ordered a new starter motor and had it running the same week. I spent the next 3 months fixing everything that needed fixing (shocks, brakes, discs, hood lining, engine mounts, A/C) and then got it registered. I’ve been daily driving it for just over 6 months now. Best Buy ever! Owes me $6500 now as it sits haha!
Awesome guide for someone like myself who needs to rebuild my ls1 aswell, I got lucky and found a good vy long motor with high flow oil pump for $2k till I can get together everything to do my rebuild! Keep up the good work mate Ps how good are Taylor ray videos but
Good to see local content mate! well done for being upfront and showing the true cost especially for people that are into cars as it is always informative. as for merch there is always a market for that stuff in my view especially for the fans! for me i would rather donate as I like supporting local content! well done mate and keep it going!
All in all, not too bad. I don't think I've seen an LS crate motor ever go for less than about 15 grand, and this is almost half that for what is hopefully a sorted engine. Granted the crate motors are LS2s and up, but no frills, stock as a rock
Great video and I appreciate the honesty on the cost of your engine. I didn’t place a comment with my guess in time, but I was thinking approx $7k. Everyone thinks LS’s are cheap, but it still costs big money for big power and reliability. I like your engine build. 👍🏻
@@MindieJ I concur mate. I’ve recently built some Holden V8’ (355 and 383) and some LS3 engines and they were all between 10-17k with me assembling them. Speed costs….how fast do you want to go… I enjoy your videos mate.
I'd actually forgotten how many components you upgraded as it's been a while, hence my woeful estimate of cost the other day! I'm pretty sure I asked you about merch about six months ago, so yeah I'll buy and keep up the good content!
I did leave a comment a while back saying you can buy summit forged cranks for under 1k (no import tax to aus). You needed pistons anyway. So then all you need are the 6.125 rods, cheap ones for around $700. Then you have a 383ci. No clearancing required like the ol 5Ls. Just some washers on the windage tray to space it out. This is a forged rotation assembly with gen 4 style rods and pistons. If you didn't have the extra $1700 fair enough. But to not mention this as a cheap reliable build is not bad but average advice. If guys have used ls crank, rods and pistons which are in good nick they can be flogged for $500 and up. Put towards the 4" forged stuff. Honestly I would have skipped a bit more on the top end. Your build your choice, but another 20 guys gonna go out and rebuild with stock rotating assembly and be missing out just by not having alternative info.
then add some heads to go with it because youd be silly not to, a bigger converter again, a more serious box to handle the power ect ect......its not just "ad a crank and youve got a stroker" as for not having alternative info, LS is literally the most common engine in the modified car world, hundreds of thousands of different videos, articles, forums ect out there
@@MindieJ Stroker budget. They happen to come in forged and gen 4 style. Not suggesting that's needed. Heads? Heads are useless on the street. Those ppl are idiots who suggest that. Same thing could be said for aftermarket cam and trunnions. High stall again not a good idea unless going further. Higher diff ratio? Yes good for the street. More serious box? Camshaft and heads will kill it before stroker. Bringing the power band up. Injectors? Cam and heads = more fuel up top and more power more likely need injectors. More revs less reliability. Increasing stroke and crank length is not going to do those things simply on their own.
YESSSSS To the Merch man! I am super keen! My merch for my channel isn't the cheapest either for the same reason and i wanted it to really stand out and be of high quality But 110% id be happy to have a shirt with your name 👌👌
I’m looking into at least a refresh my LS1 in my 2000 ws6. It has 187k miles and just headers, exhaust, and SLP air box. On a cold dense day it feels good and powerful I assume it makes stock power on those days. On a warm/hot day it feels a little weak on the power side. Looking at the total cost I’m thinking I’ll probably just convert to a blueprint LS3 for $2k more that will come with everything and make over 500hp with a warranty and guaranteed power number.
This is hilarious mate. So the bloke selling that engine you mentioned at @10:57 is the same bloke from Grimm Industries you sold your old motor to... and I'm the bloke who bought it off him, here watching your video for inspiration during the teardown XD
These motors are going with a gearbox at around 6000 in Brisbane QLD Covid prices at a Guess so still pretty good considering what you have done to it i guess
I might be interested in merch depending on the design, I’m a fat bugger so getting larger good shirts might be a stretch 😉 id be interested in a cap, large of course, my head is fat too
Not sure how many blokes are going to want to walk around wearing a T shirt with your sisters name on it? Have you asked your sister yet : ) Maybe time to change the channel's name, but hay it's your channel I'm just a dude typing on a keyboard, but will be honest I wouldn't wear one, ( No offence to your sister ) Keep up the great vids. cheers
I picked up an ls1 for cheap. Had 4 bad rod bearings and the crank was damaged. Can I use a 5.3 crank and rods and have it balanced with new pistons? Thanks
If you were working on a tight budget, totally understand, however, since you were $7k deep into this motor, did you look at the value proposition of $ vs HP gain?
@@MindieJ understood mate. I said, since you were $x deep in the build for a stock LS, did you consider the value proposition of spending $x more for x HP extra, since you were already going through a rebuild.
You shouldnt have a problem with this engine now for a long time considering you done it to the same as Taylor Rays engine and a lot of us know the abuse he puts his LS miata through
depends how good this thing has been put together haha but time will tell, hopefully it never has to come back out of the engine bay again while in my possession
These cost breakdown videos are really good!
Would be super helpful for anyone going down the rabbithole on a motor build so they have a ballpark figure to save up to!
Thanks for the idea! thanks mate
Lucky you have a mate who can assemble it for free! 👍🏼💸
a good bonus
Enjoyed all the LS videos, especially loved this cost breakdown!
Thanks Joshua appreciate it
Thanks mate, 2 years after the video was posted I’ve used it as a parts/price guide for my freshen up!
Haha good to hear man
Andrew is the man he always comes and collects all my leftover cams and whatever else I change in customers cars 💪
and i was going to throw it all in the bin
@@MindieJ one man's trash is another man's treasure
I did pretty good then after looking at this. I picked up a MY9.5 VE SS wagon off my next door neighbour for $500. The car was on jack stands since the day I moved in. He said the starter motor died in it, then he purchased a new one, but bought the wrong type (there’s two types, clip or bolt style connectors) anyway he was going to call a scrap yard to pick it up as he had bought a new car, and I told him I would give him more than the few hundred bucks he had in mind.
He helped me push it next door to my house, I ordered a new starter motor and had it running the same week. I spent the next 3 months fixing everything that needed fixing (shocks, brakes, discs, hood lining, engine mounts, A/C) and then got it registered.
I’ve been daily driving it for just over 6 months now. Best Buy ever! Owes me $6500 now as it sits haha!
Hey I wasn't to far off ,I said 6375 , and I'm clueless about LS engine's thanks for your breakdown it was very informative , great work once again!
Great guess haha
found you a few months ago because of the VN love your videos man, always excited to see a new video each week and would love to see Merch
Awesome, thank you!
can't wait for the install videos! Love your work mate, look forward to these weekly now 👍
Coming soon!
Good reality check video for people who need to tackle this and a shoutout to Taylor Ray, he da man!!
Everything always ends up more expensive than you think unfortunately
Awesome guide for someone like myself who needs to rebuild my ls1 aswell, I got lucky and found a good vy long motor with high flow oil pump for $2k till I can get together everything to do my rebuild!
Keep up the good work mate
Ps how good are Taylor ray videos but
I was less than $100 from total cost. I love your videos been watching since the day you got the vn keep it up keen to see her run
Awesome! Thank you!
Good to see local content mate! well done for being upfront and showing the true cost especially for people that are into cars as it is always informative. as for merch there is always a market for that stuff in my view especially for the fans! for me i would rather donate as I like supporting local content! well done mate and keep it going!
Much appreciated!
All in all, not too bad. I don't think I've seen an LS crate motor ever go for less than about 15 grand, and this is almost half that for what is hopefully a sorted engine. Granted the crate motors are LS2s and up, but no frills, stock as a rock
"hopefull" :)
I've always said to myself that your retro channels logo would killer on a shirt or jumper... love the content mate 🚙💨💨💨💨💨👍👌
thanks Lyndon
Great video and I appreciate the honesty on the cost of your engine. I didn’t place a comment with my guess in time, but I was thinking approx $7k. Everyone thinks LS’s are cheap, but it still costs big money for big power and reliability. I like your engine build. 👍🏻
no matter what engine it is its very expensive unless you can do every single thing yourself :(
@@MindieJ I concur mate. I’ve recently built some Holden V8’ (355 and 383) and some LS3 engines and they were all between 10-17k with me assembling them.
Speed costs….how fast do you want to go…
I enjoy your videos mate.
@@bigal878 yeh definitely not cheap! Once this runs an 11sec pass I’ll be happy
so excited to see it all together again. and I would 100% buy merch,,, I watch every video lol
thanks for the support mate
I got my ls1, all bolt ons ecu an 4l60e box for 1400 was 5 years ago crazy the price influx
Yep they’ve gone crazy
look foward to seeing it run again and seeing the difference on the dyno. from a tired engine to fresh engine
You and me both man
Heyyy! I’m happy with my guess on the pic post ! Pretty close at $7200 before you take away the sold items from the $7K. 👍🏼
Close!
Really glad you did that. Thanks 🙏
My pleasure!
What does "MindieJ" mean? I've been here since the Cefiro days and I still dont know lol.
And yes i would buy merch 😁
This was his sisters channel pretty sure hence the name.
correct a play on my sisters name, was my sisters channel when we were kids with no uploads, i just took it over and now its stuck
@@MindieJ Ah thats awesome.
@@MindieJ not gonna lie, i originally thought it may have been some japanese word or something but never looked it up to find out lol
I'd actually forgotten how many components you upgraded as it's been a while, hence my woeful estimate of cost the other day! I'm pretty sure I asked you about merch about six months ago, so yeah I'll buy and keep up the good content!
thanks Brendan
I like the 90's vibe (Dennis Denuto) of your logo! Looking forward to wearing what I want to wear!
watch every vid, love the content man
thanks mate appreciate it
Hopefully when I get my first vy v8 , I know what I'm in for 🙏 thanks heaps mate. Great vids 💯
Best of luck!
I did leave a comment a while back saying you can buy summit forged cranks for under 1k (no import tax to aus). You needed pistons anyway. So then all you need are the 6.125 rods, cheap ones for around $700. Then you have a 383ci. No clearancing required like the ol 5Ls. Just some washers on the windage tray to space it out. This is a forged rotation assembly with gen 4 style rods and pistons. If you didn't have the extra $1700 fair enough. But to not mention this as a cheap reliable build is not bad but average advice. If guys have used ls crank, rods and pistons which are in good nick they can be flogged for $500 and up. Put towards the 4" forged stuff. Honestly I would have skipped a bit more on the top end. Your build your choice, but another 20 guys gonna go out and rebuild with stock rotating assembly and be missing out just by not having alternative info.
then add some heads to go with it because youd be silly not to, a bigger converter again, a more serious box to handle the power ect ect......its not just "ad a crank and youve got a stroker"
as for not having alternative info, LS is literally the most common engine in the modified car world, hundreds of thousands of different videos, articles, forums ect out there
@@MindieJ Stroker budget. They happen to come in forged and gen 4 style. Not suggesting that's needed. Heads? Heads are useless on the street. Those ppl are idiots who suggest that. Same thing could be said for aftermarket cam and trunnions. High stall again not a good idea unless going further. Higher diff ratio? Yes good for the street. More serious box? Camshaft and heads will kill it before stroker. Bringing the power band up. Injectors? Cam and heads = more fuel up top and more power more likely need injectors. More revs less reliability. Increasing stroke and crank length is not going to do those things simply on their own.
Keep up the awesome vids mate…I really enjoy the variety
Glad you like them!
YESSSSS To the Merch man! I am super keen! My merch for my channel isn't the cheapest either for the same reason and i wanted it to really stand out and be of high quality
But 110% id be happy to have a shirt with your name 👌👌
thanks Bro appreciate it :)
Primo break down bro cheers for the knowledge !!
thanks Jay appreciate it
Great stuff champ...
Really enjoyed your episodes as I do with all of them...
Keep up the fantastic work into the future coming...
From Bill 😎👍...
Thanks as always Bill 😀
I’m looking into at least a refresh my LS1 in my 2000 ws6. It has 187k miles and just headers, exhaust, and SLP air box. On a cold dense day it feels good and powerful I assume it makes stock power on those days. On a warm/hot day it feels a little weak on the power side. Looking at the total cost I’m thinking I’ll probably just convert to a blueprint LS3 for $2k more that will come with everything and make over 500hp with a warranty and guaranteed power number.
This is hilarious mate.
So the bloke selling that engine you mentioned at @10:57 is the same bloke from Grimm Industries you sold your old motor to... and I'm the bloke who bought it off him, here watching your video for inspiration during the teardown XD
that is corret thats how i saw it haha, what you putting it into?
@@MindieJ it's going in an FJ60 LandCruiser. The old girl needs some help getting up a hill on the freeway 😅
Been enjoying your videos for ages man, keep it up! Most people hide the cost of their build... it always costs more than people realise - Jon
Thanks Jon appreciate it mate
Very honest man, good on you 👍
I appreciate that!
Love your videos on the VN, mate, especially the engine re-build. Great work. Definitely keen also to see a mock up of your proposed merchandise. 👍
Coming soon! thanks for the support appreciate it
Thats a pretty neat “rocket” tattoo your oil drain bucket has!!! LOL!
These motors are going with a gearbox at around 6000 in Brisbane QLD
Covid prices at a Guess so still pretty good considering what you have done to it i guess
yeh LS prices have sky rocketed recently its insane
If you thrash the engine rev limiter bashing it wont last long. Just cruise and enjoy the car and take care of it and put a clubsport bodykit on it ;)
Thanks mate really enjoy that 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
I’m all for the merch man!! Love what your doing
thanks Cameron
Great Vid on break down costs. I guessed $7500
good guess, gold star for you! :)
Can’t break that down any clearer 👍🇦🇺
try to be as transparent as possible
Thanks mate. very helpful
glad you enjoyed!
Adds up pretty quick doesn't it.
$15k I spent on my ls3.
Head and cam plus all the supporting mods.
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
it certainly gets out of hand very quickly
id be interested in a shirt depending on design and price. some people go way overboard with designs.
So no rainbows and unicorns?
@@MindieJ if you do it right they could look mad :P
The c#m bucket @5.50 😂
been a while since someone has spotted that haha
1:04
Just subscribed mate, great channel
thanks mate appreciate it
I'm fairly sure Hughes do trade in for built boxes, man.
Probably a fair few places would I suppose.
yeh most trans places have these box's on the shelf
Awesome video man!!
Thanks Jared, enjoy!
Merch would be good, I'm not too big into channel branded shirts myself but would love a few stickers if you make those as well
Noted!
I’d be on the merch band wagon !!
good to hear thanks bloke :)
@@MindieJ even a couple cheekie stickers to get your name out there ! 🤙🏼
Yes mate
Yes mate
would be keen on merch if you add a big cartoon design of the vn on the back
haha will keep it in mind thanks man
I might be interested in merch depending on the design, I’m a fat bugger so getting larger good shirts might be a stretch 😉 id be interested in a cap, large of course, my head is fat too
haha ill keep you in mind
i would
Great to know 😀
Not sure how many blokes are going to want to walk around wearing a T shirt with your sisters name on it? Have you asked your sister yet : ) Maybe time to change the channel's name, but hay it's your channel I'm just a dude typing on a keyboard, but will be honest I wouldn't wear one, ( No offence to your sister ) Keep up the great vids. cheers
name will never change
I picked up an ls1 for cheap. Had 4 bad rod bearings and the crank was damaged. Can I use a 5.3 crank and rods and have it balanced with new pistons? Thanks
No idea ask your engine builder
Merch would be sick👌
thanks Jake
Great video 👍
I said 5500 I’ll go 7500 now
Thanks mate, enjoy!
Been telling you to do merch for awhile now. Just do it.
Not if it’s not worth it haha
Yeah I'd buy merch if it was proper quality stuff 🤙🏼
good to hear thanks bloke :)
Not to expensive mate👍 I was expecting close to 10k
yeh i came out of it not bad
hey man where did you buy the ls7 lifters, headgasket and bolts from for $430?? I could only find that kit for much more expensive
revhigh automotive
Bought my cluby ls1 complete with add ons and ecu for 1500
👌🏼👌🏼
If you were working on a tight budget, totally understand, however, since you were $7k deep into this motor, did you look at the value proposition of $ vs HP gain?
there wont be any HP gains, i didnt add anything that would increase power from before
@@MindieJ understood mate. I said, since you were $x deep in the build for a stock LS, did you consider the value proposition of spending $x more for x HP extra, since you were already going through a rebuild.
Loving the content on ls. Rather keen to get one myself too.
Off topic question, you still own the cefiro ?
I get asked this very regularly lately haha, yes I do still own it
@@MindieJ mint !!!! just checking :) . Keep up the videos. Excellent content.
Thanks Peter
Where’s the cefiro🤔 also yeah bra get some nice cut tshirts I’ll support u brother
In storage 😀
Keen on Lil Chris kites or tees with Gerald’s face on them
Kites!!!!!! now thats an idea
Hell yea love merch
Nice video! Andrew (grimm industries) and I are moving into a new shop together in Aug. Pop down say G'day!
i would love to, what are you going to be doing out of there?
@@MindieJ all Street Car Culture operations will be based out of the new shop.
where are the genuine holden parts sourced from now that there are no holden dealers anywhere?
Holden parts department is still around for 7 years
Yeaaaa boi
:)
Spent just on $12k for my forged LS1 so about half that would be my guess
Wasn’t far off 😃
very good guess
When’s the auto getting done? Want to see it running
not for a while still
Did you do timing chain ?
Has a roll master double row timing kit already
What country are you in? This seems like some pretty high prices to me
Uganda
M93. I got within 0.0075% to your total ? Not bad estimate of 6600 vs 6649.32 ! V.
thats a damn good percentage
@@MindieJ M93. I'm not into distance ! We're into accuracy Kimo-Savy ? Movie quote from the "Working Class Man". V
@@vincentpoole7588 😂😂😂🤙🏼
7k on a motor just to get smoked by a stock XR6T :P jokes aside, love the content. love the transparency
I didn’t build an engine to make more power, it’ll make the same it did before, did it for reliability
@@MindieJ I'm just yanking your chain, cost me 6k to build the same with a 351 clevo to make 350hp but all day
@@DeejayManii yeh my Cleveland cost a lot more than this for not much more power haha
I’d buy some merch 👍🏻
good to hear thanks bloke :)
Let’s go
Where we going?
@@MindieJ the drags when she’s ready
wheres the cefiro today?
The exact same it’s been sitting in for the past 18 months 😂
LOL come talk to me about leaky rear mains when you have a 5L leaving stains on your driveway.
9k
Sorta close but not
im guessing $10,000 before hand
sort of close
7546.64 dollars
Geez it’s like you watched the video and then wrote your guess
Cost me just under 10k including cam package and highstall
its gets out of hand very quickly ey haha
But in saying that you wont have to replace arp bolts again now that you have bought quality products its all just fun n games hey 🤣🤣
I can only hope so 😀
Fuck it, I’m buying crocs
Edit: MindieJ crocs as a footwear option for merch, you wouldn’t do it. You’re scared.
That’s a bloody good idea
@@MindieJ just a little somethin somethin to consider. I’ll take a size 11 thanks 🤙🏻
Bout 10k if your not mechanically minded and pay everyone to fit all the parts and remove and refit engine and then probably dyno costs ontop
6500 guess
i’d pay $80 for a shirt with the vn
geez youre more keen than me
You shouldnt have a problem with this engine now for a long time considering you done it to the same as Taylor Rays engine and a lot of us know the abuse he puts his LS miata through
depends how good this thing has been put together haha but time will tell, hopefully it never has to come back out of the engine bay again while in my possession
Haven’t watched it yet I say 6-8k
spot on :)
Tree Fiddy
I’m guessing $5500.
sorta close.....
My guess is ~1500-2500$ if you're reusing the block and some other parts etc
Edit brooooo i was wayyyyy off wtf
Lol a cam kit costs more than that where you getting your prices from 😂
@@MindieJ hahaha I am still learning 😅😅😅😅
10gss....
sorta kinda almost close
Your doing it all wrong bro,you’re supposed to keep chucking money at it till you give up and buy a Camry 😂😂😂
Who knows what may happen in the future
Cost 3800. Don’t know about what he got for the shit he sold.
more than that just in parts
My guess is $100, you would be dumb To spend more on an LS.
Injected Windsor guy trying to talk about wasting money 🥴❤️❤️
Haha. Good Video Chris, I'd buy merch if you offer it 👌