How to build a RELIABLE 1,400 Horsepower LS Engine!
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Today in the MotoIQ Garage we're building a 1,400 horsepower LS based engine that will be powering Dai Yoshihara's Formula Drift BRZ but could be used for any racing format just the same. Not only does this engine make huge horsepower but it will do it reliably all season long without having to open it up for any serious maintenance!
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I think Mike Kojima and Richard Holdener have taught me more for free on youtube then $50,000 worth of college courses.
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You got scammed bruh. You get what you pay for and a $50k education isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
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Just a reminder that this content is FREE on RUclips , this is great thanks for taking the time to make these videos!
thanks mom
Imagine when RUclips starts Taxin niggas
Lol, white knight and virtue signal in one statement! Good ole Karen Casillas keepin us all in line.
Pancho showin' Ricardo some love... lol
Truly is an amazing time to be alive.
Some say Mike is still smiling underneath the mask
100%
He is smiling behind that mask............for anyone that was curious.
THIS IS HOW ALL ENGINE VIDEOS SHOLD BE MADE !
WELL DONE FORMAT, JUST AWESOME !
THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING IS THAT YOU NEVER MENTION PRICES !!!!
GREAT VID !!!
The old saying..... "if you have to ask....
50 to 60k engine easily
@bullitt454 oohh thats all!! I think i havecthat in the couch cushions!! Im gonna run out and build me a motor real qwik!! Out in the shed...
If you have to ask. You can't afford it. They have budget builds luckily for you.
He has a price breakdown video for all services and parts for different types of la builds from his shop
1400 horsepower for a season of racing is more accurate description
but it's boring!
@@motoiqAgreed but how many protouring mostly street miles would this be before a rebuild. The new LT8 sock bottom end pushed 2K hp. The boeler carbon t56 can handle 1259TQ that's the goal. This thing could too probably have you pushed it? I want a garage built used part street Protouring 69 Camero but I am in the weeds and then I see 1000hp for $1000. How would you build. I want a turbo so it's drivable most of the time pump gas E85 even propane something not race gas. I want it to last 100K miles nothing billet, nothing custom low profile. Might do a gen 4 5.3 cam heads and a single turbo and be cool with 800. What would you do to have an everyman reliable 1400hp V8 for us with our sponsor money?
We use the Bill Mitchell 9.800 deck block and push it to 1400hp for drifting builds as well we can run the exact same engine to 2200hp in drag or land speed racing which just shows what abuse a drift engine goes through
We also prefer a higher crown on diamond pistons
Yeah, something that can easily handle 2000 plus normally gets beat to shit at much lower power levels when drifting.
hey buddy, you don't need to wear the mask for a video don't worry nobody is gonna hate on you for breathing in your own shop! Also good Video Please do more
He was striping that engine all day, gotta wear a mask so he doesn't breathe in any loose bolts or valve retainers. jk.
you dont see all the people just out of camera view plus I am immunocompromised so I really don't want to get sick.
This is actually imo one of the most responsible videos I have seen recently.
Wearing a mask is about protecting ones self but ALSO about protecting others. If there are a bunch of folks around, and Mike is sniffling as you can hear, this mask is a very wise thing to wear.
Well done Mr Kojima.
WHAT AN UNBELIEVABLY GOOD PRESENTATION. Wish I had found it earlier. Thank you very much for taking the time to explain and upload. Geese I enjoyed this one.
This was an amazing video. It is not about whether it is affordable or not, it is the free knowledge he is giving away. I have learned more about LS motors in 2 videos than in my whole life lol. I also want to know who the 43 people were that gave this video a thumbs down. Weirdos.
Mike I used to work at Ground Control and I remember shipping you suspension stuff long ago for your Sentra's. Small world. I now have a 67 Camaro and I will be calling. Thanks for the knowledge
Awesome!
love the video Mike. Stay safe my friend and see you guy soon!
Love your work Mike, you have a deep understanding of engineering principals and I learn every time I watch a video of yours.
I could listen to you talk all day brother.
Love the videos, keep em comin
Thanks Mike…I can’t help but notice that your mask is causing you a bit of discomfort . I keep waiting for someone to walk into frame and hand you a box of tissue…great video, thank you!
Great content..........Also I love how he's breaking everything down to the simplest format!!! How can you not love this GUY!!!!!!‼🙌 Thanks ❤❤❤✔
That engine is probably more than my car and I want it XD 5 year finance a motor lmao
It’s not so expensive. I have recently found a 6.2L ls engine for 3000$ and it wasn’t very used. It had 150000km.
@@popescumihneapaul4740 This is no used stock engine though buddy.
The RHS block alone is $6k
Probably $50k+ all in. On the other hand, you are building a motor that does 1400hp all day long, not seven or eight seconds. As he said, the only thing more demanding is offshore racing. Well, aircraft racing but then you are talking simply silly insane money.
I know he is still smilin big under that mask!😁
As an LS fanboy I have to say this incredible. I am going to be building a 373ci 5.3 to turbocharge in a Silverado and I am going to try and use some of these tricks on my build. I didn't know alot of this was possible for my NA 416ci LS3 and my LS2 is just a low stress build. But the 373 will be boosted and built for more power and more abuse in mind.
Drifting was an interesting motorsport but now you give me a greater appreciation for drifting as an engineering proving ground for bulletproof engines. Thanks Mike!
Seeing old videos from when COVID was around seem so damn absurd now. 🤣 Sad thing is there are still NPC's walking around in masks.
The old virus was a lot stronger, I have a few buddies that got it and didnt make it.
@@motoiq Seemed to be hit and miss. Had two friends that happened to catch the first version and it was just a mild annoyance for one. The other had odd taste issues for a couple of months. A coworker of mine said it felt like the flu (and probably was given that supposedly almost nobody had the flu during that time period). Don't know anyone that actually died from it tho. I ended out getting a later variant despite being vac'd and boosted and didn't even know it. Happened to pop up in a random screening at work. Could have just been a false positive too tho.
Funny to watch this 3 years later and laugh at how people were being proper in there videos with masks and 6ft of distance. 😂😂😂
Nowadays Covid is weaker and not a big deal for most people
Good example for oil getting frothy is froth on the top of a mug of 🍺. I love your videos and find myself needing to put a new LS in my sons 2013 Zl1 Camaro. It 🤮 two rods and is amazing how much shrapnel ended up in the super charger including parts of piston rings over an inch long. 🥵
Those internals are really something else. I am understanding more why going with a popular, highly developed engine platform makes so much sense for a motorsports application, 1000's of hours of iterative development and fine tuning into every component.
Yeah, every time people start digging on an LS like it's a lame swap or they're boo-hooing about how cliche it is, I'm just like "Dude there are reasons LS or K are the de-facto swaps, and while you might yawn, there's a lot you can do with a popular engine that you can't do with a volvo-headed ford motor. It really comes down to whether you're looking for novelty from the engine or reliability and ease of parts-sourcing."
Obviously some people do engine swaps for less pragmatic reasons, and I'm not hating on wacky swaps at all, but there actually are very good reasons behind these types of swaps being popular and benefits that come directly from that popularity.
"LS sucks" is always wild cause like.... then why does it win allllll kinds of shit? You don't have to like it but it doesn't suck.
@@LifeInJambles anyone saying that has zero motorsport knowledge. You guys know there an LS superstore the size of a Walmart? Nothing but LS parts on every shelf. Wild
@@easley421 No shit? That's bonkers, I love it.
@@easley421which state? I'm planning to visit the USA soon.
I have near zero interest in drifting but this dude is brilliant and this is one of my new favourite channels! 👍
You now have to look at drifting not just as a sport, but as a proving ground for bulletproof engineering 🤓
@@warboat1 Drifting and trophy trucks, for different reasons.
Man, I love this! Also the wheels on that c7 fit so perfectly, I couldn't quit looking at it.
Also, I would love to hear your thoughts on a good street build 4g63!
throw in some moderate cams. put a nice moderate zingy turbo and a good tune with flex-fuel, big pump, and injectors and leave it stock! The 4G63 is a pretty buff motor.
Titan 7 wheels!
He’s right I’m pushing 600 on a stock 6 bolt I upgraded the pistons for a higher compression ration and did all king bearing I’m on year 2 with several 9k shifts and I daily my 1g I love it but my boosted ly6 is just so much more and for serious races however I’m definitely on borrowed time with it
@@jacobhoke581 yeah 600 is pushing it. high 400's no problem!
MotoIQ spare aluminum rod engine on stand by at the moment for when I turn it up to kill
Does the LS have fucking covid I'm sure you know engines but godamn
The dry sump system costs more than my whole engine.
Or the crank. Or heads. Or...
Now that is a Awesome LS build 💪🇦🇺
I see what your talking about with the reluctor wheel it looked a little fatigued. All super good info and really easy to relate to awesome job.
As always, Mike is whispering dirty engineering into my sweet ears.
Switch sweet and dirty around....
How to build reliable ls
Step 1: replace ls
Lmao
So refreshing to hear someone talk about something when they REALLY know what they are talking about. Gets tiring hearing confidently incorrect people all day.
This was an excellent presentation of a superior powerful LS build. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HIS SECRETS !
I can still see him smiling through the mask...
Sounds nice but expensive. I would love to buy a performance engine from you either a 5.3 or 6.0. but I'm sure expensive.
*What separates the men from the boys is a good head*
- MotoIQ Guy
mike is the automotive /engineering vesrion of stephen hawking the man knows everything about every micro detail about racing and he seems like the kindest most humble person as well if anyone deserves a phd in auto racing engineering its him great video i dont think people realize how informative this video is
I can walk though!
I'd love to have this in my C6 Grand Sport. Running 15 psi Procharged, but want more and convert to twin turbo. Good luck to my 6L80E transmission. Poor thing. Normally people go with a built to hell 4 speed but I'd like to do something goofy, and use a 10 speed out of a Mustang GT. In my GT, shifts are super fast but it would need to be build. No idea if that combo would work, but it would be interesting.
TY for sharing ... curious about the sequence of treatments ... do you cryo before or after WPC ? Cheers
This guys videos are absolutely excellent.
The Bob Ross of Engines, bro
I AM FROM THE OFFSHORE RACING WORLD AND PARTS WERE MY THING !
ALL ENGINES OF OURS HAD CROWER CRANKS AND CARILLO RODS !
THOSE ARE SIMPLY THE BEST ON THE MARKET !
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Step 1: Buy Grandmas Buick Roadmaster
Step 2: Buy Roadmaster Wagon
Step 3: Sleeper
Great videos, love watching and reading pretty much everything you guys put out. Just one question on the block, are the liners supposed to have that offset where it is notched at the bottom of the bore? (5:20)
Yes
Yes it's for the stroker clearance. ...you'd hit your connecting rods there if it wasn't notched
Im no expert but you may have been misunderstood and nobody has answered in 2y so i will.
Notch: yes
Offset: my guess is no. Looks like sleeve shifted during pressfit or maybe a heat cycle or boring or something and the corner of the cylinder wall sticking into the notch was then cut back to partially correct the accidental offset. Just a guess based on appearance. I bet the notches are all oversized and that small imperfection is negligible.
OUTSTANDING BIULDER. THANK YOU FOR. SHARING YOUR. TEACHING,. I'LL BE. USING YOUR MOTOR IN THE FUTURE
I love the videos thank you for sharing your knowledge and for helping me develop my knowledge amazing work 🙏🙏
I bet he has more money invested in WPC treatments on this motor than my entire car is worth.
"really long rod" giggity.
Dose anyone know or have an idea how how much this would cost
$30k my guess
Thanks for the information... maybe next time we can talk about building an engine... On our build which is complete, I am looking at the dry sump and the shaft rockers in the future...maybe. I have an automatic due to being DAV and this 6l90 is breaking every chance it gets. The 456 input shaft snapped this time... And the cam advice for boosted i.e.. LCA is what every boosted application needs to hear... Too many times I hear "but I want chop, chop"... Me I just want it running great as this is just for me... BTW why does anyone give a ... why you wear a mask or not... the jo's who complain can GFT.
This is one of the best engine videos I have ever seen. THis channel is amazing for breaking down highly scientific data into means the average person can easily understand. Bravo!
Thank you for the content. Made the mistake of reading some of these comments. I’m flabbergasted that anyone would even bring up the fact that you’re wearing a mask. Literally the least important part of this video.
should definitely do a re-shoot of this now that covid is over. Almost unbearable to listen to you talk through the mask.
But aside from that, great vid as always tho mike! love yalls stuff.
44:05 does the tig weld on the reluctor wheels cause any balance issues?
Most crank's are balanced from the manufacturer, so it should not be an issue. We get the rotating assemblies of all our builds balanced before engine assembly, so not an issue at all with our builds.
@@motoiq thank you for your reply! I submitted a request for quote form this morning as instructed in the video for a quote on a setup similar to this for my vehicle the blue car in the bubble next to this message (street/strip application, not drift). Looking forward to hearing back from you or your team on this. Have a great day!
I always like watching this guy because it looks like he is trying to look at every camera the whole time lol.
That 1400bhp engine is adequate. The 650hp barely got out of its own way, when I go to the store to get groceries.
Listening to gus's guy could put you to sleep
You’re a legend in knowledge mike thanks so much
So - entirely ignorant question here, I understand why the insanely expensive parts and things that are necessarily hugely labor intensive can't be included, but with the other things, I wonder, why aren't stock sports car engines designed in this manner? Almost everything you pointed out for your drift racing motors seems like it would have a big impact on making a reliable high performance thrashable street engine as well. Why wouldn't the parts that are mass-producable, be mass produced in this manner? Is there some other tradeoff besides a small price increase that I'm not seeing? Some heavier parts might reduce fuel economy a bit, but the WPC treatment and things like that seem like they'd make things more efficient and add longevity, so why the hell not?
I hope my rambling, disjointed question is somewhat comprehensible, cheers to anyone who answers.
Mostly its because production cars are designed to be as cheap as possible to be as reliable as possible during their warranty period. No more, no less. There is no wiggle room for extra as it increases costs. This engine makes 3x more power to the wheels than an LS7 for instance. That's THREE TIMES more power. The parts and their materials are much more expensive at this power level.
@@motoiq Thank you for your answer - I suppose that makes sense, but things like WPC (Or a close facsimile thereof) coating seem like they could be scaled to production capacities without a large increase in cost, and a very beneficial increase in power/efficiency/reliability.
I *DO* understand why they don't make 1400hp, there's almost no street application where those power levels even make sense, from a production standpoint. Still, I'm sure this has been brought up with every engineer/bean-counter conversation for 40 years and there's a reason it's not a thing on any production vehicle, thanks again for taking the time out to answer, love you guys' content, cheers :)
Damn straight mike, tell them dyno queens. I laugh when people say my stock short block made x amount of power but their cars aren’t ran hard.
Sitting here drooling over the exotic parts and my girl just asked why I never look at her like that🤣
During our conditions, very well said , Thank You Very Much....😎✌ an its about time we got these quality parts available to us thank you again....🙂✌
I wish you guys had packages you could pick from and build from there ..unless I’m missing it ...
OK… these,guys are fantastic! You have a new sub with me, THANK YOU for this content!
Great video, wow! “That I’m willing to talk about”, not sure how you could’ve left anything out of this video.
Why you wearing a mask ? 😂
why do you care?
That block costs nearly $6,000.... the average joe isn't putting one of these together.
Right!I am getting my block from pick n pull ffs.What these fux do for money?
If you contribute more to society more will come back to you.
This isn't for street driving they are making over a 1000hp reliably that is meant to be used for an entire season getting the shit beat out of it. You can make 1000hp on a stock ls block but not for an entire season. Those cars costs hundreds of thousands of dollars so this is a good deal considering but not for the average Joe. Realistically short of drag racing there isn't much need for this much hp even in drifting unless you are doing formula D then it's not needed. Drag racing is just a wallet game really. Not for sure what average Joe uses a 1000+ hp motor other than to just say they have it. Most people can't build a car to handle that kind of power let alone drive it.
Great knowledge and university engineering professor-like presentation. Way to go Mike. Doing the ingenious engineering savvy Japanese people proud. Ganbatte kudasai. It would be nice if some day you can do the presentation without the mask.
I really enjoy your Patience and a very simple way and understanding Thank you Sir ~!
Mike, great video! I really liked the last one about the LS3 as well. Hey, I just talked to one of the techs at Fluidampr on Thursday and asked them to build a damper for the long snout crank for the drysump LS7 & drysump LS3. Do you think there is a market for that product? I will buy one if they build it! From an engineering and physics standpoint, the Fluidampr is a superior product and the reason why the Corvette racing team chose them. Can you ask them to build a damper for the long-snout LS7 and LS3? Please! I don’t know if my single request will convince them but maybe you have an idea how to get them to build it.
They make a drysump balancer for the long snout. We actually have one on this engine. It has a long LS7 style snout. I didn't talk about that in the video.
Mike Kojima - thanks for letting me know. Do you have the part number?
@@natez0690 It came with the Daily drysump system so maybe he gets it done for him?
I love watching you go over these builds... Your smile is infectious..
It's kinda heartbreaking listening to you struggle to breathe in that damn muzzle.
This is an old video when covid first hit and we though we were all going to die.
I had a lifter fail in my built LS2, I need to get the replacement cam and new morel link bar lifters wpc treated for sure.
Good stuff thanks but you sound like your coming down with something take care buddy
WPC and cyro treatment is $$$ but yea this motor is probably 50k at the end of the day....no cut corners here
Though all the processes do cost money, this engine not as expensive as you think. From scratch you’re looking at about $30k.
@@motoiq this exact motor is 30k, that’s not considering a full race motor. What’s the life expectancy of this before needing a rebuild?
Another Awesome Video,,,, Rod÷stroke ratio of 1.49
Yeah pretty low
A personal thanks for the meticulous explanation of what you do an why. I’m sold
Watch this makes me want to get a new Ford Coyote 5.0.
Can you show us how to build the transmission to go behind a LS?
bro get an n95 mask while making this video I dont want the airaids
Ohh They Meant "Race Car Reliable".
I thought it meant street car reliable (like 250,000 miles at 1400HP = Reliable)
Would probably last this long in a street car. Street use and race use is an order of magnitude different.
I really want Mike to build my engine.
Should reshoot this video with any updates or corrections added, and no dumb mask worn. Love these vids.
The info doesn't need to be updated.
Guy sounds a bit like Text-to-Speech
The mask has aged to comedy at this point
That block is 5500 dollars alone. You're building a 14 thousand dollar engine to go with the 1400 horsepower.
Closer to 30k actually
@@motoiq omg
Like Mike has said drift is brutal on the eng,so all that extra greenbacks are nessary to make the motor bulletproof for the application ,better to build a expensive motor that won't blow than a cheeper one that blows up
This man is my engineering spirit animal. Badass information.
What is the average price for that build?
And still have a smile under the 😷 mask!
I'm curious. On the cryo treating. Does it help with any residual untempered martinsite.
On the piston skirt shape. Technically it's called Cam Drop-off. Ideally yo only want a narrow band on the skirt to be touching the cylinder wall at a right angle to the crankshaft. Pistons have been made that way from the auotmtive manufacturers for years. We had Giddings & Lewis cam lathes that were programmed to cut a very specific profile into the piston skirt. G & L actually had special program they used for demonstrating just how good their control of the cutting tool was. Tey could run a machineycle and the G&L log would be machined into the skirt. The cutting tool was actually controlled with an amplifier
On the cryo process, we use there is a tempering stage at the end. We were just noting that JE and a few others have gotten really good at developing cam shapes over the past 5 years or so to where 2618 is now pretty quiet.
@@mikekojima9761
Thanks
That crank is sick.
Thank for this beautiful video
Jesus how much does 1 assembled engine cost? It would prolly be cheaper to buy from you guys than to source and process all the parts on your own.
This engine is about $35k but 7 of that is in the dry sump.
Anyone have an idea how much ballpark this engine he’s outlining costs in just parts to put together?
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Beautiful Crank.
6 min in and I already feel dumber
Keep watching and be smarter....
Start from youtube for kids
I’m thinking of 900+ whp on a L92 twin turbo or procharcher
that is around when you need a 5-6 bolt block
Thank you for all the advice
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As usual a really informative video. Thank you for taking the time! Also setting a good example wearing the mask through the entire thing.
Yea but he is in there by himself. ....no need for a mask, he is only making it hard on himself.....do you wear a mask in your home?? Didn't think so
@@trentdawg2832
I am immune-compromised I have an autoimmune disease called Sjogren's Syndrome so I have to be careful. There are a few people in front of me behind the camera.
Them nhra nitro cars are hard on engines too