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Adam Lee
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Star Trek Bridge Commander: Steamrunner vs New Orleans, both ways
Star Trek Bridge Commander: Steamrunner vs New Orleans, both ways
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The Steamrunner seems a little lighter than I thought it was. I thought it was 303m long with eight Type XII phaser arrays and four forward and two aft torpedo tubes.
This was a damn good fight. A tough as nails Galaxy class. What it always should have been, and the most accurate version of the Defiant I've seen yet. A solid showing by both ships. Adam Lee, by chance do you make Bridge Commander Mods?
Pretty good balance between the two. I just wish you'd stop calling the ship class 'Valdore'. That's NOT the name of the class, just Donatra's ship.
@@necroticavalon5176 it’s how the ship was named in bc remastered, I haven’t got round to changing it yet. Can’t decide if Norrexan or Morgai is better
@@adamlee2111 "Mogai" And either works. :)
Beautiful as usual
Whew! Down to the wire. The balancing seems on-point for both sides. Good think the Narendra's torp launchers are so tough, if they disabled those, you'd have probably lost this.
Having read some of the other comments, I suppose it makes sense. If it's a 244m variant of the Steamrunner, she's basically a frigate. VS a light cruiser that is New Orleans. Even so... this was extremely 1-sided. N O just walked all over it. And the AI seems to use it well, too. Given how paper-thin the shields are, the Steamrunner definitely needs more ablative armor. I'd give her about 50% increase in all ablative armour strength. Or (and this is a more interesting way) - make her a hull-tank, like the Galor. She already looks very compacted and stocky, like the spaceframe is very tough, so it wouldn't be that much of a leap. Not AS tough (obviously, Galor is way bigger in size), but tougher then she is now. And combined with this level of ablative armour, she could be a nice tough little cookie, without being OPd (since the firepower is limited). As she is now, I see no reason to use the Steamrunner over a Miranda. Miranda might lose out on the hull, but it's shields are better, and it arguably has more firepower (especially phaser firepower). So... catch 22. And the Steamrunner is supposed to be a pure warship. So yeah, this is too weak.
@@necroticavalon5176 agree it needs a buff, not sure why it did so poorly against the New Orleans, far worse than the stats would suggest
@@adamlee2111 think that may have to do with new orleans shields. it's just galaxy on a smaller scale. So you got a lot of chonk to em.
i will have to agree on the ablative armor. give her a little more to make her somewhat chonkier.
All the sources I checked state, that the Steamrunner has around 350m. From the Sector 001 ships the size order is: Defiant > Sabre > Norway/Steamrunner > Akira. So I would say, that it is the New Orleans, which is way too strong in this mod. Let the New Orleans battle a Nebula A.I. vs. A.I. to check the power.
@@marcusrutkowski8919 already done, the New Orleans gets wrecked. It’s strength is about 60% of a Nebula
Best tactic for the defiant in this case: Get *INSIDE* the D'deridex. they don't have guns in that giant-ass gap
New Orleans class seams overpowered. How can this old ship wreck a Steamrunner class so hard?
Its roughly the same era as a Galaxy or Nebula class, some people place it much earlier but going by the design style its a Galaxy era ship. Its also bigger than a Steamrunner hence my decision to make it more powerful. There are also discrepancies with the size of the Steamrunner, some sources giving 375m and others 244m. My model is 244m making it much smaller than a New Orleans. The smaller size makes more sense to me in the context of the First Contact ships, with the Saber the smallest, Steamrunner acting as a destroyer, Norway a light cruiser and Akira a heavy cruiser/battlecruiser
New orleans was part of the next generation(pun intended) of starship tech. New Oreans is essintaly a mini galaxy class especially in the tech department where new orleans tech was transposed into it. With new orleans being the prototype class for the TNG technology. With classes like challenger and such coming soon after. And then ending with galaxy and nebula as the final product. A very capable 5 class fleet of destroyers cruisers and heavy explorers/battleships for the TNG era. New Orleans is also i would say of similar capability to a Ambassader class while being much cheaper and easier to mass produce. P.s. had to edit a few times.
@@Loki1701e The Steamrunner is part of the Anti-Borg fleet. So like late 2360 or early 2370. The New Orleans is 2350 to 2360 tech at best. Steamrunner should be at least equal. Steamrunner has ablative hullarmor, too. In this matchup it get's wrecked. Yet for better comparison you should let the A.I. control both ships, when they fight each other.
@@marcusrutkowski8919 i doubt that. Steamrunner is a cabale ship yes and is newer tech but is much smaller and with less power overall. A New Oreans can easily overpower a steamrunner simply by better power via the warp core. And thats not even counting a refit.
@@Loki1701e I disagree. I checked more sources. They state the New Orleans class was launched in 2347 before the Galaxy and it got replaced by all the Battle of Sector 001 ships. For dimensions it should have nearly the same mass as a Steamrunner. So around 350m in length. Check the canon battle. There you can see a lot of Steamrunners. They are around 70% of the Akira Size, which has 464m length.
How hard are you going to abuse the A.I.? Adam Lee: "Yes!"
Adam Lee abused the AI for grins n giggles.
Always forget how much of a tough cookie the nolans class is. Makes me wonder what its war refit would be like
Nice battle 🥃🖖🏻 the norway really looks beautiful..
@@TheHighlanderX it’s a great ship, shame we only got one appearance
Too much of the same! We want new ship models! Where is my Scimitar vs. Dominion Battleship?
Let the man cook. This is the most banger mod ive ever seen for this game. The lore accuracy and quality of it is worth the waiting.
Working full time and renovating my house, new ships/features are on the way but my time is limited at the moment
Go watch Retro-Badger. He puts on some crazy matchups (at the expense of balance and lore-accuracy). I prefer Adam's more grounded and sensible approach to modding this game.
@@necroticavalon5176 I don't like the Bridge Commander Remastered Mod. It sucks!
WHERE did that sona cruiser and a high quality marauder COME from?
They're both included in BC Remastered 👍
I could see the defiant winning if the cloak was used correctly and they had quantum torpedos vs the galaxy photons. Much weaker shields but also more maneuverable, just keep at a distance and hammer it with quantum’s, if it gets too close cloak, get distance and repeat
A tough fight for the War Nebula but an easier one for the Sovereign. Though it still had to work to earn it.
So the new Excelsior has no torpedoe bays?
The refit has two foward torpedo tubes and one aft and can fire quantum torpedoes and has four additional phaser banks that are type ten or higher plus stronger shielding according to the sto manual
The excelsior fired several fierce volleys in the second battle
That was a pretty close fight. I expect the Valdore will need some shipyard time after this one.
I always knew the Norexan/Mogai/Valdore would win... though I may be biased.
As I recently found out on Retro-Badger's page, the Nova actually is a tough, little ship. Which explains why they survived for so long in the Delta Quadrant.
Vs 2????
@@Morninglightwga no chance 😂 the defiant has been nerfed since this video was posted
And here I thought someone said they'd nerfed the Steamrunner Class. It just went toe-toe with an Intrepid, and won the first battle, while taking a heck of a lot of firepower, in the second.
@@Renserin I didn’t see a need to nerf it? The Intrepid is only a light cruiser so a Steamrunner or a Norway should be a match for it given they are from the same time
@@adamlee2111 That's what someone said, commenting on one of Retro-Badger's videos. With the exception of the Akira, the ships from First Contact were downgraded at one point in Bridge Commander, making them far less powerful that they were.
@@Renserin Oh I see, I think thats the case in BC Remastered
You people need to try this with two human players, or at least turn the AI to hard.
@@Butteredstuff the AI is set to hard, it’s just rubbish regardless 😂 A player controlled Ambassador would have wrecked the Intrepid in this battle
Nicely Done
Great battle 🥃🖖🏻
I do not remember the particle effects being so smooth, is this running some newer mod?
@@amhour42 it’s my own mod, I reworked the weapon effects
I love videos that show off the Miranda's might. It makes me nostalgic for the first imaginary starship I created, the Miranda Class, USS Lady Bright.
It was a powerhouse in the 23rd century, a solid light cruiser during the border wars and was not the cannon fodder during the dominion war that most believe it to be. One of the most successful Starfleet designs of all time, beaten only by the Excelsior 👍
What launch is this game?
Its my own version, currently a WIP 👍
Why does it seem so impossible to simply update this simple-yet-visceral experience without all the fluff of STO?
Fluff of STO??
I feel that this will always be a toss up. The galaxy has more powerful shields and more weapons but the ability of the defiant to get in ship blind spots and hammer damage could go either way
"Really old ship destroyed and all hands aboard are dead." (Happy music plays)
There is no world where a warbird would lose to a defiant.
Great vid! Can i ask how you changed your ship folders for 22nd/23rd century etc? my mods are all over the place. thanks
Awesome fight! When you destroyed the Marauders Warp Core in the first match and it DIDN'T blow up, my first thought was "is there a Q captaining that ship?".
@@Sam1056 thank you! yeah not sure what happened there, it’s set to critical?!
@@adamlee2111 gotta love bridge commander sometimes lol
A Ferengi Maurader won one clean, fair fight and did some serious damage in the other? That is impressive.
@@Renserin they’re certainly not pushovers 👍
The Ambassador is a great Large Cruiser/Panzerschiff (and I mean that in the actual naval term of a heavy cruiser sized ship with heavier armor and intermediate sized guns between battleships (14-18 inch) and heavy cruisers (8 inch), traditionally in the 11-13 inch group). The Intrepid is an outstanding ship for its size. Hard to classify it within the framework of traditional naval classes. Whereas its size and speed might classify it as a Heavy Destroyer like the Mogador or Fantastique Class, or even a fast cruiser like the German Schnellkreuzer, its Type X phasers carry too much punch. It is more of a "pocket" heavy cruiser because its phaser power is on par with a Nebula or Ambassador Class (though not in the game specs) thanks to its oversized warp core. However, despite having as much phaser power as the Nebula or Ambassador, it doesn't have the shields or armor of the larger ships.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 good summary, though the rubbish AI saved me here, the Ambassador was definitely the more powerful ship in this fight 👍
Voyager's more advanced weaponry & shields with greater agility against greater firepower & stronger shields of the Ambassador class, with more torpedoes than Voyager would have.
Gotta say, that Ambassador was TOUGH
@@lovipoekimo176 they’re sturdy old ships 👍
Odd question but i remember excelsior at one point getting strips. Am i just tripping?
@@Loki1701e I think you’re tripping 😁
Intrepid only won due to human factor the AI is super dumb other way around or having both ships AI controlled and the Ambassidor smokes the Intrepid every time
Balanced battlecruiser is a tricky thing. It was said to readily outlast an Ambassador heavy cruiser, punch through to the nacelle and trigger a core breach. Two could match the Enterprise-E. Heavier forward poleron cannons paired with an assault torpedo wouldn't guarantee victory over a Valdore, but it would be a tough match for both.
What did you balance the Galor 1 to in your mod?
@@Euripides_Panz roughly equal to a Miranda class. Type 2 is matched to a Centaur and Type 3 a tng Excelsior 👍
An amazing battle. Excellent tactic with disabling their shield generators and then letting the auto-phasers to fend the others off
@@lovipoekimo176 thank you! I think the tactics I went for were about the only way of pulling this off. The type I Galor isn’t very powerful but 3 of them wear a ship down surprisingly fast!
God, the Norexan/Valdore/Mogai wouldve been awesome to see in the Romulan armada during DS9.
I think they were, lore-wise, near the end. You don't see them in the show since obviously the model didn't exist yet. Romulans came up with the Mogai to replace all the D'Deridex losses during the war. And come up with something more cost-effective to mass-produce.
I actually added Nano FX to my Remastered install and it runs very smoothly
@@steveperuski5547 it makes a huge difference! I’ve had no issues so far 👍
Doesn’t make sense the D’Deridex has the stronger plasma torpedoes but the Valdore doesn’t.
I wonder how similar the Romulan Valdore and the Klingon K'Vort are to one another. My assumption is that whoever gets the first shots off first would win, although I believe the Valdore is slightly more advanced? I'm sure it would be a quick battle either way, but I wonder which is the better choice if they actually faced one another. I really enjoy your videos, thank you for posting as often as you do.
Thank you! I think this would be a short fight in favour of the Valdore, its larger and much more modern.
Valdore should absolutely stomp the K'vort. I would even bet it would down the Vor'cha. Not because it's so much larger, but because it seems to be faster and more agile. Vor'cha is renown for its firepower and Defenses, but suffers when opponents can linger beyond the Vor'cha forward firing arc.
The long lance looks awesome!
The Rommies for the win.
I bet the other way around, the Ambassador would have finished the Intrepid quicker
Without a doubt!
@@adamlee2111 Can we see it?
@@aaronatwood9298 no problem I’ll record it tomorrow
How would a D’deridex warbird vs battlecruiser go
I think I have that video up