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anyone else here after playing War Within? and seeing how they made Anduin a bitch?

I remember those priogues. They took all day, but they were totally worth it! Remember we made people tear up at Thanksgiving because they hadn't had any in ages?

There is a charm to running past people, while you are forced to run everywhere. Flying has make it so empty and soulless. It should be rare. WoW has a problem with optimization. It's an expectation. Day 1, you better have the right addons and you have to have watched guides prior. Where the hell is the fun in that?! But hey, it's not for me then. I just go somewhere else.

I don't get the deal with getting mad over sexualization in media. In the most simple sense it's media that has elements that try to evoke more base/basic emotions. Like, you know... horror for example (or romance). And like horror (or romance), relaying on sexualization can often mean you have schlock on your hands, but no one is out there boycotting ridiculous and silly gore p0rn horror stuff. I think this has everything to do with North American prudishness and nothing else. The strangest thing about the video is that lady likes Oblivion. Oblivion is in my top 3 most hated games of all time. And she somehow likes Heroes V more than II and III. I call bullshit on her old games cred!

There is only one thing that men can do to combat this anti-male bias. Ignore it and do their own thing. Make content, write books, create games, vote with their wallets for the products that cater to their desires. Walk away from women who demonise male desires and marry the ones who understand them. Have children, build homes, defend their families. Basicallt, men just need to do what, en large, they've always done.

Clicked for the topic, stayed for the SMN gameplay.

Glad you made the video. You make excellent points all around. I had just a few minor comments along the way: 4:05 Saying women prefer textual and men pornography is not quite right. Men tend to be more visually oriented than women, hence why men tend to gravitate towards visual media. Which is also why men tend to like genres with more visual spectacle (action) than women (interpersonal romance/drama). There is something lost when trying to convey action through the written word which is not the case for romance/drama. I would even say the written word enhances romance/drama. 8:00 Most people think men that like sports/dumb Hollywood blockbuster action flicks/superhero comics and movies/shounen anime and manga/hentai and eroge as less intellectual/stupid/worse. I don't think this is a gendered phenomenon necessarily, it's just that men are criticized, shamed and ostracized more heavily for their interests than women are. 32:50 Wow, this notion of art having meaning only as propaganda is so wrong I'm surprised anyone outside of crazy modern empty headed activists actually believe it. Art (and philosophy) are diametrically opposed and opposite to propaganda (and political/ideological commentary or ambition). A piece of media being propaganda means its impossible for it to be art. Its a literal either or binary. It's crazy how much damage these "everything is political" ideologues have done and continue to do to our modern society, but to me its even crazier how little push back they actually receive, both in the past and now. 42:25 What I'm worried about is that this infection is spreading to other places in the world. For example the company I work at (I'm an East Yuropoor) has been bought by a larger western one, and the large company is of course pushing identity politics heavily. And like you mention many people don't know about any of this, so they might be buying it (hard to say if they are genuinely doing so or just going along and trying not to rock the boat). It's the same on the political front - the EU pushes all sorts of garbage, and I don't think most of our politicians can even recognize it, and the ones that know something is fishy are usually very bad at articulating why, which oftentimes has the opposite effect and makes them look like backwards lunatics or conspiracy idiots. When GamerGate hit I thought that in 10 years time this identity politics BS would be as neutered as creationism was at that point... Well it's been more than 10 years now and it doesn't seem like it's budged much. In many ways things are even worse now. And who knows how much worse it's going to get before things start getting better. I think there is a real danger of there being a lost generation of men and women that are going to get fucked over by this and essentially live their whole lives alone (no friends and no partners ever), isolated, childless and miserable. And considering how the economy works around couples and families, and how many countries have it bad in terms of population replacement and ethnically dying out, and the whole automation/AI stuff on the horizon, who knows how all of that is going to go down in terms of social fabric, jobs, state wealth (social security for retirees), general individual fulfillment and everything else. Anyway, great job overall on the video.

Yes to this! I do think there's a difference between porn and written word porn in that no physical people are being objectified in the book. Now, of course, this can happen in book cover models. BUT, in general... Like you said, for women it is more of a whole package, BUT women will totally put things onto men they just meet. Why? Who knows! Biology is weird. Having said that, it's important for women to recognize they are building castles in the air. Their thoughts are not real about thar barista...

Heh Boobies

So glad I was recommended your channel. I would be curious to hear what your take is on socially acceptable male sexuality. Double standard aside, it seems as though feminism reacted to a valid issue of some men going too far in how they objectified women they were attracted to. But no matter the new restrictions there were still bad actors so the next form of shaming and covering up was implemented.

You're the coolest. I wonder if because they follow that axiom of: "words have weight and make reality and not the other way around," they want to change men's behaviour so we start talking differently and that somehow will change reality for the better. I wonder if there's people who actually think that. And I want to wish them good luck.

catering to a majority ostracizes those that dont fit in eventually leading to violent results and/or nihilism

Yeah...I heard Eric Weinstein's opinion on teachers in his Chris Williamson vid, and I about blew a gasket. What he was talking about was essentially individual tutors, not realism for 20+ kids in a class that all will be tested at the end of the year... He said nothing about parents needing to take responsibility for their own kids learning, etc. The guy is brilliant, but if you haven't tried to teach a room full of children, please be quiet.

Thank God that the recorder was you and not me. I had art, but I would have lost my mind on that one.

Modern liberal writers across Hollywood and gaming are garbage. That's fact. Good writing cannot be hindered by who you might offend... And that's the current cage liberal artists are in

We all know what the problem is

Tolkien struggled with what the nature of the Orcs was - why would Eru/Ilúvatar/God condemn souls to such a vile, degraded, nearly irredeemable existence? So he considered making them fleshly automata driven by an external will. But scenes in LOTR clearly show Orcs, while “made” to be cannon fodder, as having motivations of their own: to be free from Big Bosses (whom Tolkien said they feared and hated) and to govern their own affairs (plundering, eating, whatever). Whether descended from Men or Elves, they would have been reproducing in “the manner of the children of Ilúvatar”. So of course there were female Orcs and Orc children. And I assume their dark overlords kept them away from the roaming warbands in awful underground breeding pits or whatever. But here we have Orcs led by Adar, their literal once-Elven progenitor who has retained some measure of empathy for them. I doubt Orcs had happy families. They were probably miserable and brutal and many of those half-feral children probably never made it to adulthood (although I’m sure they grew up fast). But they can’t have let all their children die either. Goblins were what hobbits called Orcs (Bilbo just happened to encounter less imposing specimen in the Misty Mountains). Goblins = Orcs. The Uruk-Hai (Orc-folk, in the Black Speech) were a stronger, taller, more man-like breed, but they were still distinct from half-Orcs that could live among humans (Bill Ferny?). Tolkien didn’t really bother classifying them the way an RPG or video game would… I dunno. There’s a lot wrong with TRoP but I’ve always wanted to see more of Orc society and I guess felt some sympathy for them being given such horrible lives. It’s not that they are unjustly maligned noble savages… more like innately traumatised attack dogs. Like, it’s not their fault Morgoth, Sauron and Saruman made them into these vile creatures, and it must suck to be them. But they’re still bad guys.

An excellent video. I'll admit I didn't see all of it but that's mostly because everything you were saying, is what I already thought myself. For me it's simple, Warcraft is an IP inspired by Warhammer - with Starcraft inspired by Warhammer 40k - and had a very specific tone and setting. It was rather grim, serious and pulled no punches but wasn't afraid of some levity and wit here and there. It had decent enough writers to tell the story and build the characters. All that set the tone for WoW and then, over 20 long years, it shifted, gradually turning into something completely different. Modern Wow is not Warcraft, it's some sort of poorly written Saturday morning cartoon trying to emulate Warcraft but completely failing because the writers don't know what Warcraft was all about, don't know how to write mature stories and well... even what IS there is amateur work at best so I actually do think these people are not qualified writers. I have read lines of dialogue that were completely unacceptable in their grammar and sentence construction. Sadly, with the release of TWW, the trend continues. The quests are decidedly off-tone yet again - one asked my friend's Orc Warrior to play with orphans for god's sake - the tone is still friendship is magic and the actual dialogue is terrible. Characters are spouting exposition and speaking directly at the audience about their thoughts and feelings, which is how a teenager might write. Right now, everybody is high on Copium and in the honeymoon phase now that daddy Metzen is back but inevitably, they'll turn around, inhale the clean air and admit we never left the Shadowlands.

Uh it’s new blood emerging from warped perspective of society etc .. these people don’t know how humans function. Feminized for sure .. it’s all three and then some. Just look at what they doing with a recycled Windrunner plot new war within expansion. It’s all feminized rage

When I think of a typical area in the game that oozes Warcraft, I immediately think of Frostfire Ridge. And lo and behold, it's the most masculine area in the game. Not just the geology of glaciers and volcanic instability, but also the hunting, the ogres, the enormous creatures wandering around. Now, Warcraft has feminine aspects as well and the game wouldn't be the same without them. But all I'm saying is that we've never had something like Frostfire Ridge since five expansions now.

The most frustrating part of the DIE propaganda is that its another form of American Exceptionalism and Imperialism, which in theory the people that push it should be opposed to.

Remember, these same people, who complain about diversity, are the ones who praised Black Panther because ALL BLACK PEOPLE are brothers. #facepalm #grewupinWafrica

Hello China winter!

I don't get to watch all the way through these, but I'm enjoying occassionally spying on this game.

I find WOW to be interesting as a topic because while people are focused on the feminine nature of retail wow's story, I find that most of its problems start far sooner in Cataclysm. Cata revamps the world with plenty of military conflicts between the Alliance and Horde, which you think would be a return to form, but the main story is based around uniting against a world ending dragon, a cult, and a revived boss from Vanilla. It has a very neutral energy to it, like it lacks soul. Later on in WOD, when they tried to play up the masculine energy, and got big sub numbers for it, but dropped off hard due to a content drought, lack of social element and an awful end story brought about because players got "Orc fatigue" despite orcs being the main enemy and one of the draws to people coming back. BFA, though having multiple issues, on its surface has a military aspect to it and it's arguably the worst subcount of Retail WOW. Blizzard for over a decade has cultivated a core audience that doesn't care about narrative and prefers novelty instead, and every time Blizzard has narratively tried to spin things in a masculine direction with the sole exception of Legion post-WOTLK, it blows up in their faces. You can't really have an "Us" against "Them" story and have 3 raids with 3 different enemy types in 3 different locations in the expansion world. Especially when the other "Them" (opposite faction) is also working with the "Us" and whose leaders hang out but are still mortal enemies of each other. My TLDR though is that Blizzard players ask for this style of writing indirectly. They say they want an Alpha energy story but complain when the setting is an actual setting and not different enough for them. Half of what I've heard about War Within is how people are excited for the gameplay/cosmetics, and the other half about how hot Xalanath is or lack thererof. They don't care about the story really.

The reaction you had to the gate being connected to Solution IX was similar to mine, and I actually died the first time on the last boss so great job there! This was my favorite part of the expansion, the intrigue and the hype in such a visual way. I just wish YoshiP had kept Solution IX a secret so we weren't all waiting for it! Enjoy the rest of your Dawntrail journey Chieko

People are too afraid to die, and too intolerant of death in this game. That's what 2 years of Endwalker battle content does.

Missed the WoW stream Pepehands

Missed it. I was sleeping.

I think he's not wrong about the perverted comment, its just that what it means to be "perverted" is a bit more nuanced than just what your fetishes are (most common definition). In reality everyone is a degenerate to one extent or another, because society as a whole can't operate if it starts openly condoning a lot of sexual behavior so historically it tends to delineate relatively stricter lines about such behaviour, while individuals can't live their private lives without going a bit over these safe lines to have normal fulfilling lives. So everyone is a degenerate by society's objective standard in one way or another. The difference between a pervert/degenerate and a person who is not is really only whether they keep it private. And again I think this is a major part of the problem. Women's perverseness with the example of these kinds of books is accepted in society, they can have a whole shelf with a spotlight on in in a book store openly and this should just be regarded as business as usual, but a male equivalent is forbidden to exist or even acknowledged. Women's degeneracy is accepted and even encouraged (dressing extremely provocatively and going to clubs and getting in all kinds of sexual situations) and the response is "go girl", but a guy saying he wants to have sex with beautiful women and tries to go for it is a disgusting misogynist (let's say pick up artists, I don't know if these are even around anymore). While men aren't even allowed to indulge in escapism about this, whether with fiction or p*rn. If you like eroge for example you are considered the absolute worst kind of societal loser. But somehow the hoe that gets drunk/dr*gg3d out of her mind every weekend and gets into g*ng b*ngs is living life to the max and a role mode for other young women... Women are allowed to be degenerates/perverts in public, while men stating their most basic, natural, harmless and benign desires is a big problem. As for your second point regarding conservatives/religious circles - can't comment on that. I'm an East Yuropoor, here we don't have an equivalent to your conservatives/right wing/religious fundamentalists. The commies completely wiped out any semblance of ideas similar to those, at least in my country (I think we are 40% atheist or something atm), maybe one of the very very few good things they did. To me North American Christians/conservatives seems like cartoon characters from a bad book, it's difficult to even grasp people so dumb exist.

I had a ton of time when i started playing mmos, but my skill was low as i was a kid, but growing up, my skill increased and my time decreased proportionally so im not high skill low time on the chart 😭

I played for hours and hours in Inquisition. Did I get better? Absolutely! But was I the one that just couldn't wait to go and kill every dragon and hard-level creatire? Nope! I put those off as long as I could until I couldn't advance the plot without doing so.😅 And even then I waited...

I agree with his first statement that Casual is a mindset. That is me as a gamer.

I don't think Asmon's point was about those books specifically only, or female oriented romance media in general even. The point is the double standard of how women/society view men's hobbies and their expectations of them in general, vs. women's. The reality is that both men and women are immature roughly equally as a population, and even when matured can enjoy immature hobbies. This isn't strange, bad or surprising, or at least it shouldn't be. But the problem is that men's immaturity in society is condemned beyond a reasonable level, while women get to both demand men to "grow up" (which rarely means for men to mature as individuals, but rather for them to become more subservient to the immature demands of women), while women get a free pass on their immaturity. Oftentimes its even worse - female immaturity is held up as their best standard to aim for. So men constantly get sh@t on, while women act just as bad while getting away scot-free if not outright encouraged. That's the issue Asmon is pointing out. Regardless of nicheness, there is a reason this shelf (and many like it) exist is many bookstores, while a mirrored shelf for men with lets say Gor books and similar never happens, and the reaction if it did would be vastly different.

i hate to say this but if they ever add housing i think you should give it one more go.

I'm 2 hours 38 mins in and not sure if it gets mentioned later, but I'm commenting now before I forget: Have you considered table-top roleplaying games? It is still a male-dominated hobby and men use it to tell tons of fictional stories. Also, these stories tend to be male-brain oriented, meaning, they have a lot of lore, worldbuilding, magic systems, etc., and emphasise emergent storylines over pre-defined plot and character drama. Incidentally, the most female-dominated parts of the hobby (for example, such games as Vampire the Masquerade) do the opposite - they emphasise character drama and relationships. Also, vampires. Because naturally. What I'm trying to say is, men do buy fiction books and tell fiction stories, but in an interactive format of TTRPGs. Maybe this gets pointed out later in the stream, though.

Nice general overview. Like you said, fantasy is escapism and shouldn't be confused with what people believe or want IRL. It is like the vigilante, we can like and can cheer for it in a movie, but IRL someone trying to act like Batman or the Equalizer is unacceptable. People tend to forget that there is a difference between 'mainstream' and 'niche' genres and that the sudden rise in a sub-genres popularity doesn't always mean it is surpassing or even coming close to doing the same business or having the same impact as the 'mainstream,' but that is typical and 'boring.' But niches are niche for a reason, and when some of these ideas bleed into popular 'mainstream' properties cause they are trendy or the writes likes them and they are surprised when their typical 'mainstream' audience rejects them and/or is puzzled/disgusted by them, this is why!

I like ur channel

It is TOLKIEN woman!!! It is not material to create basic braindead fantasy! It is like using Mona Lisa as toilet paper.

Could you do a more in-depth anysis of LitRPGs, please? Personally, I despise this subgenre, but it gained a lot of popularity, wich means it does at least something right. Might be worth dissectig.

On a more serious note, it feels like Fantasy has been completely upended by a subgenre in which Fantasy is mostly incidental, and the main appeal is basically "Pornography for Women." I wonder what the numbers would look like if you controlled for women who are purely into smut -- going back to that quote, men look at pornography while women read pornography. After all, you'd have to control for pornography traffic if you were trying to make a study about "legitimate" internet traffic. An obvious solution would be to treat Romantasy as its own completely independent genre, untethered from Fantasy entirely. But it feels wrong to do that, because I'm sure there are tons of women (my wife included) who simply enjoy a fantasy story with a focus on romance, and the smut is just a take-it-or-leave-it bonus. Those would be the female readers who also enjoy regular old fantasy novels. I wonder what's the proportion of Eclectic Fantasy Fans vs. Smut Horndogs. It would seem the latter vastly outnumber the former.

That's great, but you haven't dispelled what he said: How come it's alright for media to cater to women's tastes, even calling it empowering, while things that guys are attracted to are being demonized? It's somehow degenerate to want a beautiful woman in a videogame, but it's totally okay for women to read smut in public. If a guy was reading a playboy on his commute, even covered up, you'd say he's got a porn addiction. So much for Equality of the sexes.

*Weeping bitter Urban Fantasy tears*

As a lifelong Warcraft fan, I'll try to keep my comments short. Even from a feminine lens, the story is weak, as the relationships are shallow and often have to be stated. There is more than story consistency--the lore itself has become really broken and heavily retconned in a harmful way, taking its first hits around Warlords of Draenor and reaching a nadir in Shadowlands. It's getting better: Dragonflight was a step up from Shadowlands, but still bad, and the War Within is looking to be a step up from DF. Lastly, while I care a lot about the worldbuilding, a lot of the fanbase approaches it more like a football game, more interesting in their favorite "teams" scoring wins than whether the writing is good. You can imagine how some of the new features you've mentioned and the anti-faction war storyline they are driving have made these sub-communities extra incensed. A good portion cares more about customization and getting the options they want, regardless of the lore. So I can't say fixing the writing itself is going to save anything compared to what the larger community of fans want.

hopefully you make enough money to afford a better mic

I agree that men and women are different. Still, I think we all can agree on what is perverse and depraved.

The writing of the text you showed us is pretty cringe. I felt my face turning inward as if eating a lemon.

Really enjoyed your analysis, made me realize some things about myself.

Asmongold was good for something? Was an interesting journey. Thanks for your insights and intellect.