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I once thought Tsumugi or Hifumi were my least favorite characters in this franchise, only because I completely forgot Haiji existed

Kiyo and Angie used to be my least favorite characters in the game because reasons, but fan interpretations of them have actually improved my opinion on them. To be completely honest now I can’t decide if Tsumugi or Hifumi are my least favorite character now.

Ibuki is my favorite character in Danganronpa so having _this_ be the chapter she died in was really lame for me. Love your rewrite of it!

I really do think the only problem with Chapter 3 on DR2 is that it affects the rest of the game's survivor theming. At least 1 or 2 people in the cast as a whole affected the survivors positively and had them grow as characters. Nekomaru affected Akane, Peko affected Fuyuhiko, Gundam affected Sonia and Chiaki and Nagito affected Hajime. Literally none of the victims or killers affected Kazuichi. And this would all be fixed if they had just kept Hiyoko as a survivor like the original plan was before they rushed the survivor and victim line up in development. I think if Sonia was the victim instead of Kiyoko in chapter 3, this would instantly fix everything. Hiyoko would then be affected by Mahiru and Mikan in her growth as a character and survivor, and Kazuichi and Gundam can have a dynamic for chapter 4 to then lead him being affected by Sonia and Gundam as a survivor. I wish we lived in the timeline where Hiyoko survived. I genuinely think she would have been a Fuyu level character in terms of growth but also it'd just have made the thematics of the survivors and the bond this cast had as a whole much more impactful. Still a GOATed game and best game in the trilogy though.

i LOVE the changes made, i think it would be extra harrowing if by during the whole despair spiel monokuma finds mikan's willingness not entertaining and decides to cure her without anyone knowing. Everyone would be understandably pissed at Mikan but she wouldn't know why and it would further make her feel worse, then after the execution monokuma reveals that he cured her and that they didn't even give her any sympathy when she was at her lowest point

10:01 kirigigi’s execution does kinda fit for her because she was the headmaster’s daughter so that ties in with it being a school theme Ig but idk 😭

As someone who (somehow) has tsumugi as one of my fav characters, i completely agree lmao. Honestly i think i just like the fanon her and my hc's than her actual in-game self 😭😭

I think a lot of people don't consider voice and tone when they talk about the ending. On paper, the ending is fine, not groundbreaking, but fine, however, in practice I feel the whole thing came off quite pretentious and nasty. The attitude of the developers seems to be that they are indignant of their audience and have ruined the canon as punishment. This is because they depict the audience of danganronpa on the text like the audience in the Truman show, and then extrapolate that we are the same as those fans when we know we're playing a game that doesn't hurt anyone. They also imply that we're insatiable super fans, and that everyone just cant get enough of Danganronpa, and people all over the world are obsessed with it when it's not that deep bro, its an anime VN, get over yourself. That to me, ruins the ending, the idea isn't that smart to begin with (I've always said the Truman Show exists, btw, and did it first and better, and even recently , squid game did the format much better) and if they hate the fans then they didn't have to make the game and take my money. They wanted to have their cake (upsetting the fans) and eat it too (cash in on a final game). I guess it comes down to this: do you think the fans were really that obsessed with Danganronpa that the creators felt they had to hold up a mirror to that obsession and masterfully deconstruct the genre? Or do you think the creators were a little sore that they'd peaked with Danganronpa and couldn't ever make something else as popular so they ruined it? I think your answer to that question might affect how you view the ending.

I'm very late but I want to add the note on Mikan's execution while it seems weird and out of place it matches monokuma's twisted personality it's designed specifically to mess with Mikan despite her obsession with despair

I also wanna add that the unrealistic way in which she is killed is in my opinion monokuma pulling back the curtain and tell the viewers that hes not limited to real life limitations, honestly its nice how every once in a while the big twist at the end is hinted at It could be executed better i still see it as a hey player you still think this isnt a game?

So you didnt really talk us through the execution? Im assuming cause of death is heart attack from stressing over hallucinations. Which is still kinda lame im not gonna lie Im not gonna say that mikan being shot into space is better but i still feel like theres a better way to kill mikan I do see the point to making fake Mikan go through the exe instead of remnant Mikan But i will make the argument that watching someone you thought was your friend happily accepts their death especially someone like mikan would spread despair and possibly mistrust through the group because if the timid girl was actually insane whats that mean for the rest of us.

quick everybody start playing headlock by imogen heap at exactly the same time

I tend to be very, very wary of sexual assault in media. It is very easy for it to either be used as torture porn, or just plain porn. Lingering on the event, fetishising it, describing the character who experienced it (often a woman, and/or a child) somehow "dirtied" or "robbed of their purity", or whatever else. Mouthwashing was remarkably tactful with its depiction of the victim, the abuser, the bystanders (be they unaware or willfully ignorant), and the aftermath. What gets me is that James ("Jimmy" is what you call a friend, and James Mouthwashing is no friend of mine.) isn't "obviously" evil. He's mean, he looks a little unkempt and pathetic, he struggles to really talk like a normal person to anyone but his friend. He is a human being. And that's what gets me. My abusers were also human beings, no matter how much I hate them. In a way, they are just people. Someone who knows them might never even suspect they're capable of hurting someone. Might even try to defend them. James is _tormented_ by what he got Daisuke to do, what Swansea told him, and what he did to Curly and the ship. But then Anya, in his mind, shows up either only as a womb, a source of the monster that torments him (the burden of responsibility for the child), or Polle, a representation of the cold corporate space crushing them. And also a horse. All she is to him, is either a burden, a fleshy hole, or an animal, and boy, if that doesn't demonstrate how he - and unfortunately, a lot more people than I wish - views her, if not just women as a whole. And yet, the monsters chasing you in his mind, his fear of responsibility, the way he twists and mars Curly into some frightening _thing,_ rather than a person, show his hideous humanity. You _wish_ Mouthwashing had an alien monster on the ship, just so it would murk the bastard.

I am so late but Tinyleaf is back omg, love your content As someone that kinda despises mouthwash, this game hit a particularly niche spot of horror in my brain

I love how you actually have a bottle of mouthwash in the background of the intro.

Take responsibility for your bad reaction speed.

It's nice to see you again! Have you seen the new cbapter of Project Edens Garden? It's so good!

It's great to hear about this game from you! Great analysis, as always! I especially liked the idea that not acknowledging our worst moments makes us monsters. The characters in this game all feel real and believeable, and it's clear WHY each person does what they do, even if their actions are misguided. There's certainly a lot to discuss, but I think you did a very good job :)

honestly mouthwashing is a mental breakdown

One theme that I find really compelling in Mouthwashing is capitalism and how it has adverse effects on those who partake in it, whether forced to or not. In the story, Pony Express is almost its own character and we can surmise a lot about them through the in-game environment. One detail that sticks out is the posters found about the ship. PE doesn’t let them sleep for more than 5 hours, docks their pay at any chance, and places all their blame on the employees instead of on the company. It’s a cold and callous entity, treating their employees as mindless working robots, which is ironic considering they’re the only company left with human workers. The height of PE’s ruthlessness is seen when the entire crew gets laid off mid-journey. They offer no safety nets and wash their hands clean of their ex-employees. Curly is affected by capitalism through his unfulfilling job. Logistically, he should be happy. He pretty much won at capitalism. He has a good job, a high position, and presumable high pay. However, none of that makes him happy. The reason why he can’t bring himself to quit or switch jobs is because he can’t bring himself to leave behind the safety of his work. Jimmy is on the bottom. There are lines that suggest he hasn’t had the best life. He’s clawing his way up through the corporate ladder, just as society tells him is the right thing to do. Well, at least that’s what he thinks. Curly most likely helped him. That help has probably left Jimmy feeling even more emasculated and envious, growing his resentment and leading to him lashing out at Curly once he’s vulnerable. I have more to add but this is getting a little long😭😭 Oh and btw great vid as always ^w^

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I think theres an issue with the daily-infection thing. If it infected mikan later than the disease and rule was established, then people would notice if it skipped a day, immediately putting more suspicion on her as a nurse with immunity. I suggest that Mikan got sick FIRST, but due to being so used to hiding her hurt from abuse and her changed state of mind it was unnoticed to the others. Monokuma thinks this shit is funny so he doesn't say anything. The day AFTER is when Komaeda contracts it (Perhaps the night before there was a small conversation in the group where he couldve contracted it from her). Due to his already bad health state he immediately collapses from it, and then everyone learns about it. Monokuma leaves out that 2 people are already infected to make things more interesting, so the order of disease could be another point of argument in the class trial, especially if mikans meek nature is used as an argument on why it cant be her even with the scalpel knowledge Also, this may be an unpopular take but I think Mikan being uncomfortably sexual can be written and done well if the authors had respect for her.... Hypersexuality as a trauma response from the peer abuse and it being something she deliberately tries to appeal to to get Some type of validation and affection by others makes sense i think. It's just not handled well but the idea itself isn't inappropriate imo

Kaito is the main girl!

I don't get the hate for this chapter. Chapter 2 was far, FAR worse. The only good thing to come out of Chapter 2 was Fuyuhiko's character arc. As for your changes, tbh I don't like them. 1. Adding a record function gets rid of Mikan's alibi. Literally the first thing I said when I first saw the body announcement was, "Well, I know it's not Mikan." It made for a fun twist when it's revealed the footage was fake and recorded elsewhere. 2. Hinting at a scalpel makes the killer makes the killer too obvious. I'll overlook that she's not a surgeon because they're pretty broad with what they mean when they call her a nurse. 3. Hiyoko is literally the perfect person for Mikan to kill. I do agree it's kind of lackluster though. Maybe she should have been a bit more brutal with Hiyoko. Show her to have multiple stab wounds or something. 4. Mikan can't be "cured." Her disease was remembering herself to be a Remnant of Despair. Sure, Nagito can stop lying, Akane can stop crying and Ibuki could have stopped being guillible. But how is Mikan to forget? It wouldn't make sense for her to lose her memory again. The Future Foundation could wipe their memories when putting them inside the Neo World Program, but Monokuma isn't able to just make people forget things. I can agree with you that I am not a fan of her execution, but I think all of the other suggested changes take away from the case.

I LOVE Mikan SO MUTCH. That's also why I hate her execution this mutch, so I'm glad the rest of the fandom agrees. Our girl deserves better.

If not fanservice scenes and *that* minigame with Komaru, Kotoko's potrayal would be so good, honestly. As a traumatized child, she had to grow up mentally faster, same as the others, especially Nagisa and Monaca; breaks down from trigger word; is bitter nobody saved her; and what I find the most interesting - expresses hypersехuаl behaviour. In media, most of C/SA victims express repulsed behaviour and bc of it hуреrsехual behaviour is stigmatized and seen as abnormal, when it's normal for a victim of C/SA, as well as repulsion *and* as well as a person having periods of being hyper and repulsed. Kotoko could've been an amazing potrayal of hуреrsехuаl SA'd kid and she is, especially after Ch.3, but if course writers had to ruin it

Im was honestly so happy that the gofer project storyline never actually happened because that story line was so dumb if you think about it for a bit

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When Tsumugi talks about Maki falling for Kaito, she's bluffing. She isn't ultimate despair. She has to lie to create despair.

Korekiyo is my all time comfort character because of let's just say similar experiences with abuse with an older sibling It hurts me so so bad that they wrote him in such a disrespectful way.. jesus christ Glad to hear at least someone actually has a soft spot for him it feels like every other dr youtuber only just hates him and likes him for meme purposes which gets kind of annoying.. love ur vids

Honestly, the only thing I’ve felt confident in about NDRV3 is the idea that it is divisive at all get-out. Some people seem to think it’s the coolest thing since sliced bread, some seem to think it’s the worst game they’ve ever played. And there’s about a hundred million opinions in between.

Well if Mikan has the despair disease it would make her less clumsy since the disease kinda inverts your personality. Also , despair is the whole point so she wouldn’t mind being sick she would just do all that stuff just for the thrill the same way junko used to do stuff

dude i thought i was the only one who hated tsumugi for how utterly empty as her "plain persona" was. i dont even know how to properly articulate the feeling because the obvious answer is 'shes supposed to be that way'.

Hiyoko is my favorite character I love ibuki And then there’s mikan Good old mikan MIKAN WHY WOULD YOU AHHHHH

finally. a list that has kazuichi in S.

I would love to hear your opinion of both the case of the golden idol and the rise of the golden idol

for sonia getting killed, what if she was going to get the mirror for hiyoko and, akane dying insted of ibuki. also, i feel like they just killed them off for no reason, like they just killed them so they would be gone.

20:37 made it look like he has nothing on 😭

You should do a rewrite of chapter 3 of trigger happy havoc I'm interested to see how you would change things

this is actually good what

I just wish they kept Kaede alive, her being killed off so early really hurt this game…..

Kaede and Shuichi should have both been the main protagonist. There isn’t a need to kill of either one and I don’t see the problem with them both living.

Angie should never have died in my opinion, I really wish we could have seen her continue into later chapters, and have her atua belief become shattered. Like I was so genunuinely disappointed when she died 😭

23:12 it's funny you mention this, because uh, coincidentally at one point if you interact with the girls' bathroom door shuichi says something along the lines of "maybe after a sex change."

Hell yeah, Portal and celeste!