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Graham Vfr
Добавлен 17 фев 2007
Been a passionate bike fan since I was very young, starting on the road in 1973 with a Yamaha fizzy.
Thought I would try to put a bit back to RUclips, having gained lots of help from it over the years. My aim is for the channel to be just
like a bike chat between enthusiasts, at bike meets etc.
Thought I would try to put a bit back to RUclips, having gained lots of help from it over the years. My aim is for the channel to be just
like a bike chat between enthusiasts, at bike meets etc.
Видео
Honda Vfr 1200.. Top Heavy???
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Video given my opinion on whether Vfr 12 is too heavy.
Honda Vfr 1200 4 Yr Review and Running Costs!
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see link to 3yr review ruclips.net/video/sLggviDxMGs/видео.htmlsi=zl_OhqVs2iw87b7x
Toyota Yaris Hybrid Touring Economy...see links in description!
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Review of euro trip economy.ruclips.net/video/T5K5ZnARCPg/видео.htmlsi=-7BbNhNj1kzyEyza
Top 5 Things I love about Honda Vfr 1200.
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My thoughts on this popular theme.
Motorcycles!!! What's the big deal??
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quick chat about the fascination of motorcycling.
Review of Kawasaki KZ 750 Brake light switch
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Review of Kawasaki KZ 750 Brake light switch
Toyota Yaris Hybrid, 1 year economy review. See links in description
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Toyota Yaris Hybrid, 1 year economy review. See links in description
Honda Vfr 1200 Top Box.....see link in comment.
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Honda Vfr 1200 Top Box.....see link in comment.
Honda Vfr 1200 Problem Preload Adjuster
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Honda Vfr 1200 Problem Preload Adjuster
Honda Vfr 1200 Advanced where it matters!!
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Honda Vfr 1200 Advanced where it matters!!
Honda Vfr 1200 Disc buttons. Myth???
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Honda Vfr 1200 Disc buttons. Myth???
Honda Vfr 1200, Nicest people reference!
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Honda Vfr 1200, Nicest people reference!
Honda Vfr 1200 Oil, tyres, screens, 🤔
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Honda Vfr 1200 Oil, tyres, screens, 🤔
Honda Vfr 1200, meets Kawasaki kz 750 twin.
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Honda Vfr 1200, meets Kawasaki kz 750 twin.
Honda Vfr 1200 suspension replaced!!
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Honda Vfr 1200 suspension replaced!!
Itll be a typical Honda. Itll do everything superbly but it will be void of character and soul and by God its an ugly bike...
Well you don't buy a Vfr for soul and character I've got lots of opportunities for that. You buy it for power efficiency and effectiveness. Looks are devisive but hey ho! 😊
As many other comments on this video, I can't understand why italians are selling tons of euro V cool, poweful,fast (and pricey) sport bikes whilst Honda who produced v4 engines for decades seems to be interested on cheap inline 2 bikes. I still hope in a Japan quality and reliability new Honda V4.
Oh , Eck interesting but sad story I suppose. Well at least you have the memories, that 5 valve engine was a peach. Triumph 765 not too shabby though 👍👍, Thanks for input 😊
We are living in the cost cutting era. The VFR1200F clearly is not part of this era. 10/10 for the looks.
@@dorstefan Sadly yes, and of course the consumers desire for style (fripperies) over substance 😏
Specsavers mate
Graham I'm curious, saw in one of your other vids you mentioned the tank on the 2012+ isn't actually bigger it's just the pump takes less space in the tank. Where did you get this info from? Also do you know what the difference is supposed to be in the fueling system to improve economy, is it supposed to be physical parts or just mapping?
@@REDGRIFFIN100 Hi yes I'd heard anecdotaly about it, then saw in an old mag Ride October 2012. look at 58 secs on linked video. This is backed up by a supposed insignificant increase ( half a litre) which would hardly warrant a re design. I believe the improvement was purely mapping, as the physical systems appear the same. ECU is different. ruclips.net/video/CaNk7nr6U2M/видео.htmlsi=JVWfE5eSX69MvAeO Hope that helps
@@Grahamvfr thanks that does help
Those FZ 750s were pretty actually. Comfortable and fast. My first bike was an full fairing FZ750, loved it but had an accident with it and damaged it the sold it.
Brilliant bikes, they used to mention a hard seat, but I found it ok. See my old vhs video of it, if you haven't already.ruclips.net/video/IY0vAu_6G20/видео.htmlsi=WpA4htEXWXyO2sAC
Its front end feel i miss with upright adventure bikes
@@toma9246 I was talking to a lad at squires last week who'd part exed his vfr 800 for the Suzuki gsxs1000gt. Said he'd tried the gx Suzuki but found the feel from the front a touch remote compared to GT. It's a great point 👍
Remember having a fj1200 and a Kawasaki 1000 gtr, and now my 2010 vfr1200f can't beat it.
@@tangm6833 Great to hear, fjrs are great bikes, never ridden the gtr 1000, but had a brief pillion ride on a gtr 1400, very nice .
Sport tourers are coming back. (Eg Suzuki gsxs1000gt and Guzzi Mandello). The difference is this: Manufacturers will NOT invest in single use engines that require a lot of R&D. They are building one engine and frame that can be dispensed in multiple platforms. R&D is getting more expensive and motorcycling can not support a diverse range of power plants. Honda has chosen to go with the 1100 parallel twin.
@@luko560 They are supposed to be bringing out a 4 cylinder CB1000 Hornet. If we are lucky we might see a faired sport touring version. Give me an IL4 over a parallel twin every time.
@@jeremyr62 That would be great if it happens.
@@luko560 Yes I think the single use platform issue is a valid point. Unusual that Honda developed the crosstourer and cross runner from sports touring models, yet with the nt it's the other way round. Love the mandello 👍
I think Gary as you quite rightly pointed out, the mystery (to us maybe not Honda) is how the Italian manufacturers can churn out big v4s ,although obviously Ducati are predominantly a racing based organisation (perhaps thats not the most accurate term) and may find having a V4 road bike is more important to them.🤔. Either way i guess tine will tell, but I'll think wishfully in meantime.. Cheers 👍
Before I got my VFR I had FJRs. A lot of the riders of those seem to have migrated onto bikes like the Tracer 9. I too much prefer old school bikes like VFR/FJR/ST types but I fear their day is done. Just glad I lived through that era.
@@jeremyr62 Yea you maybe right Jeremy, fjrs also my type of bike, I have to admit Riding my mates tracer 9 is fun, but getting back on Vfr, is always "ah that's more like it" . Thanks again 👍
I love the torque and the pulling power of the VFR, two up, fully loaded will out drag 90% of the rest. Love that you can have fun on the twisties and sit on it for hours munching motorway miles. Love the style and love the V4. But best of all is DCT.
I must agree with everything you've said there... with the added interest of dct 👍.
@@TheSudsy Agree with all except comfort. My bum gets really sore after about 2 hours in the saddle 😂
@@garyt.8745 I bought cycling shorts thyat were padded that had gel inerts from Aldi (£5 ) i think in prep for long journeys. But I have over 50,000 miles now and minimum 60 miles per day, maximum 3 hours trips to Lincolnshire. didnt need them after all but handy if you can pick some up. I also am looking at a custom seat.
Unfortunately Graham and as much as I would like Honda to make another VFR, I don't think they will. Too expensive to develop a V4 engine. In the meantime I will just enjoy my VFR750!
Yes you're probably right, but hey ho!, keep enjoying your 750 😊😊
Interesting subject. I don't know enough on the technicalities to give any sort of objective opinion. I understand that Honda stopped production of their V4, citing emmisions as being the decisive factor (I presume 2016 Euro IV or maybe the, then upcoming, 2020 Euro V). Its weird how Italian manufacturers _can_ produce liquid cooled, V4, large bore, high power Euro V compliant powerplants, yet Honda seem incapable 🤷. The Panigale V4, for example, is crazy powerful and Euro V/V+ compliant. I don't imagine Honda can't do the same/similar, but more that they don't want to right now. Must be a strategic, or commercial, move, but only they know. I remember when Triumph phased out the Daytona 955i, never producing a 1050 version, or later 1200 version, although maintaining the Speed Triple with those engines. Low sales, one assumes, due to (and I launch into pure speculation) high insurance costs(?), or lack of interest in the sports segment, or rider demographics. Again, no idea.
@@garyt.8745 Don't know why my reply to you went on as a comment not direct reply 🤔, Hope you picked it up.
Great video Graham, I always at least put the wheel under the car when it's jacked up, maybe you have an axle stand under there? never rely only on a hydraulic jack. Never thought that this could be causing the noise, happens my Mrs's car sometimes. have to check it out, thanks.
@@roadwarrior8560 Thanks,Well I hope it is the same issue and easily solved. You are quite right to point out the belt and braces approach, foolishly I was distracted by filming and forgot my chocks at that point 👍👍.
@@Grahamvfr I have axle stands now but before I'd have used a block of wood or just put he removed wheel under the 'chassis' if there is such a thing on modern cars.
@@roadwarrior8560 My axle stands have been seconded to my bike bench hahaha 😊
Aww, thanks for this, brings back memories. I had a 1991 Bike, same colours. I had to sell it when insurance wen mad in the 90s. Ended up getting ripped off and losing the bike through fraud.... All I have now are a few photos and the memories. That engine sound, and the valves, just how I remember it! I did buy another one years later, not sure what happened though, cant remember, other than the last 90s bike I had was a CBR400RR Just recently bought an almost new Triumph Street Triple 765RS
Informative video Graham and not bad mileage out of those discs. Mind you, if you had those fitted to your VFR1200F, you'd have a few sleepless nights! I noted in your video that you referred to 'driving instruction'. Were you an ADI? If so, great to hear, as I was too (for over 16 years). Our defensive driving techniques and love of the open road, have done us well over the years, both on 2 wheels and 4. Take care for now.
@@davidlutton4560 Oh there's a coincidence, yes I've had a varied working life, finished it last yr after 13 yrs as an Adi. My nerves are just settling down now haha. Yea great for defensive riding/driving 👍👍
Great to hear Graham. Thankfully all that is behind us both, and we can now enjoy a 'relatively' risk-free and more fun-filled life on the open road. Take care.
Note: 1st set of discs changed at 56,000 , present mileage 97,000.
Спасибо бро!
@@user-rx6he2zr8b You're welcome 👍
Don't fix the old one buy a new after market shock, costs from 300€ upwards and is 10 times better than original
@@firebladeflow Yes Thank you, but if you scroll my videos you'll see I replaced it with a barely used oe shock (I'm a restorer not modifier) and it seems fine. I also did a video stripping the old pre load adjuster. I know many owners have replaced shock with quality aftermarket one and been impressed. Thanks for watching 👍
@@Grahamvfr i didn't watch i y commented for all the poor souls sharing the same fate. Mine was stuck too and I fitted a yss, which is SOOOOOO much better! I should have fitted it first thing when I got the bike.
@@Grahamvfr by the way i put a preload to wrench adapter 3d print model on thingiverse for anyone who wants to try his luck with the stuck adjuster.
@@firebladeflow Yes I've heard the yss is a good replacement.👍
The blackbird was an amazing bike but that was top heavy!! the vfr1200f carrys it's weight low and thanks to engine layout has a very narrow waist. Keep up the videos Graham 👍
@@davidedwards8868 Cheers David, yes the Blackbird is a great bike. Thanks for input 😊
@@Grahamvfr sorry I should has said the blackbird is an amazing bike not was, unfortunately I had to trade mine in to get the Vfr1200f. Ideally I'd keep both!! 😃
@@davidedwards8868 Don't worry I was thinking 'is', When I first rode one in 2000 I felt it was the best bike I'd ever ridden... might still be 🤔
Checked the bike and the 2010 owners manual. No mention of display brightness. 👎
Yea, I managed to find it online, with no mention. So have you noticed whether your digital clock stays on for quite a while after you've turned ignition off??
@@Grahamvfr Yes, I'm not sure but I think it stays on for the same time the HISS indicator is flashing, 12h maybe?
@@garyt.8745 Thanks im going to time it, see if it does match hss indicator.
Mine is 2010,I'll try.
@@CESARESENECI did you see Gary comment below, his didn't work on his 2010!
Hallo Graham,this solution is possibile on every model year Vfr1200f?
@@CESARESENECI oh good question..not sure, mine is a 2012 as you may know . I'll ask on community post.🤔
Hold on.... I'll go check my 2010....
Nope. Doesn't work. That procedure is just for setting the clock. ⏰️ I imagine the whole ECU firmware is different on the 2012 version, probably because of the TCS.
@@garyt.8745 ooh well there you go something else I've Found out About the vfr12...cheers Gary.
Hi Graham. Just overhauled my claipers on my VFR1200, however I have been unable to bleed my brakes. No matter how much i bleed, using the right order, I have no brake pressure at all. Its like the fluid is bypassing the pistons! I get fluid and air the lines, but no pressure at all at the lever. Been at it 4 hours and nothing. Any ideas what I could be doing wrong? Any advice gratefully received 🙈
@@becomingback can I just ask have you overhauled all the calipers or just the front??
@@Grahamvfr Just the front. Pads were dragging.
I feel like the issue might be at the master cylinder end. Gary
@@becomingback So just to confirm there's no air lurking elsewhere in the system, have you pressed the rear brake and felt for pressure on the lever and on the front left upper pad ie is it grabbing tight on left disc. Person needed to hold down rear end , to check this.
@@Grahamvfr When I press the rear pedal I hear a hissing type noise from the front right hand side of the bike. As I am on my own I can't tell if the front pads are engaging. I've used a vacuum tool to bleed. The rear caliper seems ok.
When I test rode the DCT Africa Twin I though something was holding the bike it was so heavy to get off the side stand. The VFR1200 is no problem to get upright even from lying on its side.
@@StayAtHomeBiker That's it Brian, and it's a good 25 kgs lighter than vfr. I watched your weightlifting video... excellent 👍👍, cheers
Important note: I see a few comments that appear to link weight to Top - Heaviness. Top heaviness is high C of G irrespective of how light or how heavy a bike is. The Vfr has a relatively low C if G. 😊
Nothing to do with this topic, but I have seen quite a few reports of 6th gear failing on manuals. Maybe an idea for a video?
@@jeremyr62 Thank you for the idea Jeremy, if any of my subscribers mention that it's happened to them, it would be worth looking at. Presently I only have confidence talking about issues I personally experience. Thanks again though 👍
It's a beautiful bike, one that I would desperately love to own (and that blue has always been one of my most favourite paint jobs on any motorcycle ever! lust lust) but to me, the whole "top heavy" argument isn't about slow speed riding, or lifting it off the sidestand, or wobbling it back and forth a few inches whilst sitting on it. Where the top heavy part rears it's ugly head, is when you put your foot down in an unexpected divot, get off balance, and are at that tipping point of blowing your back out trying desperately to keep the bike from falling onto it's side. It's only *THEN* you discover what top heavy truly means, lol. For example, an NC700/750X is not top heavy. A VFR1200? Erm, ya I think it's pretty top heavy really, based on my subjective measure of what it means.
@@LS-uv9gg Well firstly I really appreciate your kind comments its very encouraging. It beyond my production capability to remove subjectivity from the video (I wish I was Ryan f9 haha ) but your examples merely add value to my video. Id ask you to ride any other motorcycle weighing 267 kgs and stop in a divot or on a camber and you will find a lot more instability than the vfr12 (Which has a low 'actual' C of G not 'subjective' low C if G. The weight of the Vfr is much greater overall than the bike you gave in example and it is the weight you feel not where the weight is distributed. If a bike is difficult to raise off it's side stand (any GS, Kawasaki gtr, BMW k1300, early V2 tounos etc etc) then physics dictate that if you stop on a camber or uneven ground, then the effort to keep bike upright is relevant to pushing it up from leaned over. The added benefit also if the managibilty of the Vfr 12 is also the low seat which allows feet flat down easily. Hope that makes sense 😊
The term "top heavy" is arguably used subjectively within this context. Having ridden a VFR1200F I did not find it "top heavy"....however at 267kg wet it can take some effort during manual handling.
@@AW8UK Well although I wanted to remove subjectivity, I didn't want to get too technical. The thrust of the video was to accept that 267kg is heavy, but the C of G is low. If you man handle an adventure bike ( but not just adventure bikes) of similar weight or even ones with lighter weight, you'll feel the top heaviness, particularly stopping at say junctions with cambers etc . Thanks again for your keen interest 😊
It's a rumour put about by BMW boxer twin owners 😂
@@trevorphillips3055 hahaha yea, you really know you're pushing one of those of the side stand !!!
Greetings from Norway. I have my first VFR ever, the1200F this year. So this is my first summer riding it. What I thought of is that, at first the VFR 1200 felt top heavy compared to my earlier bikes. But that's because they all were R or RR superbikes. 😅 So there you have it. Once I got familiar with the bike, it suddenly werent top heavy at all. It's a fantastic piece of engineering. So this bike will be with me for years to come. 🙂
@@KjetilHaavan Really appreciate your input from Norway 😊, and hope you get as much enjoyment from Vfr as I do 👍👍
Top heavy 🤣, I agree with you Graham, the VFR is not top heavy. Perhaps he did mean that there is quite some weight on the front wheel? The VFR is so stable and balanced…
@@hbor77 yea good point, it's generally a heavy steerer at low speeds....my old Avon storms helped that a little bit, but fronts were finished at 4k .
The VFR is a well balanced bike, however I'm in Italy at the moment, and having temporarily parked on a fairly steep camber, I did have to put a bit of effort in to get it on the level.
Oh well hopefully your weather is better than ours😢....I imagine thought that's the 267 kgs, not it's top heaviness. Thanks for input again 👍
That is one fine motorbike. It deserves to be on the wish list for many. Thanks for uploading this.
@@dezmondwhitney1208 Thank you they are great bikes 👍😊
That blue is beautiful
@@indiamelia639 Thanks, it was only for 2012 I believe, certainly in UK.
Hi Graham dont matter how it cost to run as long as you enjoy riding it which you do and i am the same with mine in the sports tourer market for me at the moment there is nothing that comes close to the vfr its a great piece of kit yes fuel range cold be better and clutch is heavy as we have said before but rest of the bike is great .
@@andyrawlings5369 I think what amazes me so much, is the fun per £1 that these things offer ... incredible 👍👍👍👍
Myself being from the northeast of England! I can’t get away with your posh scouse accent.
@@deanwelsh5702 Wow I heard the word posh there, my old school teacher nuns will be rejoicing haha. Not sure of the Scouse though 🤔🤔. However as an ex south bank (slaggy island) lad anything will do 👍
@@Grahamvfr I was taking the piss mate . I work in Stockton.
@@deanwelsh5702 nice one ...I'll still take the posh though hahaha 😊😊
@@Grahamvfr nice bike tho my mate at work has just bought a pearl red one very nice I do like the blue of yours tho. My mate picked his up last Saturday he said it’s a scary thing when you open the taps. I myself have a cb500x would love another bike to go with it . But as a 1 bike man (at the moment) the 500x does it all very well. It does lack power on the motorway but in every other way it’s perfectly adequate. Not a bike I will ever get rid of. I was thinking of maybe getting a cb100f or a vfr as a touring toy . As they both seem good value for money.
@@deanwelsh5702 Thanks for the input...yea if only we could have a bike for every occasion, although my Vfr makes a decent fist of most things apart from city/town work, were heavy clutch irks!
The VFR looks very clean and smart. Good idea doing a yearly review. I may do an ownership one on my Triumph Explorer. It's now about to hit 60k miles and the dilemma is do I service it, or trade it. Your running costs are amazing. Triumph servicing is expensive and I'm envious of your insurance costs for 4 years. Half mine.
@@mikeroberts Cheers Mike, regular watcher of your excellent channel. Tried to stress to all that these are personal running costs and I have a natural frugal nature haha . I think age of me and bike have helped insurance costs . Thank you for input.
Agree graham . Personally don't think you have lost any money when you look at the market. I looked at another the other week private sale , 35 thousand mile £3500 . It was horrible everything had been wrapped in carbon wrap and was generally a untidy bike . And you look at the ones at dealers and they want 6 grand.
@@JIMWSMITH Cheers Jim yes , sometimes if you buy at the right time and age, running these lovely things can be quite cheap. Makes up for all the money we lose on cars over the years 😏
Lovely looking bike, you are doing a great job looking after it 👍
@@PAUL-yv2kk That's very kind, thank you 😊
Thanks for this! Just got a Yaris y20
@@memmaxx1 Oh that's great, thanks for your comment 👍
Enjoyed your Video. Not sure if it’s fair to deduct the cost of your old bike though as if you had for example got 10 k for the old bike your running costs would show a plus figure. 😊
@@chrisbarnes9260 yes indeed but I didn't include it in the overall running costs just the servicing ,ins, tax and fuel ..it was just for additional info 👍. Thanks for watching.
After 6 years of ownership iv sold mine for a new kawasaki 1000sx ninja only 60 miles on it so far first impressions so far compared to the vfr pros feels much lighter, lighter feel to clutch, fueling a lot better, wider higher bars feel better at lower speeds. cons build quality not up to the vfr standard, chain drive, granted I'm running it in and only taking to 4thou revs but doesn't seem to have the vfr touque low down really liked my vfr but the front end feel of this kawasaki in the corners is addictive love it.
@@kjrutter17 Fantastic package the Kawasaki, I tour with a few of them and I agree with your early impressions. I've ridden them often and only the busy motor ( often look for 7th haha) irks a bit. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Love the howl over 5k also. 👍
I also bought my 2010 Vfr 4 years ago, i have run in this period 50.000km . Its my 13th bike, but my favorite one, still love it too much.
Oh so you've done some decent mileage, that's really good to hear. However still can't decide if its better than my old fizzy hahaha. Thanks again 😊