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The M16's "Powder Change" - Misunderstandings and Myths.
I made this video to help people better understand "the Powder Change" - a misunderstood even in the AR-15's early development.
For more AR-15-related history, I broke down why "sabotage" isn't really a part of the AR-15's story here: ruclips.net/video/A8Y46d5IGSo/видео.html
Links to sources:
The Black Rifle: odysee.com/THE_BLACK_RIFLE_M16_RETROSPECTIVE:c
Report of M16 RRP: thecoltar15resource.com/report-of-the-m16-rifle-review-panel-1-jun-1968/
Daniel Watter's Excellent Timeline: web.archive.org/web/20230204110350/looserounds.com/556timeline/
A chart I made that covers the key events: odysee.com/M16PowderChange:c
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For more AR-15-related history, I broke down why "sabotage" isn't really a part of the AR-15's story here: ruclips.net/video/A8Y46d5IGSo/видео.html
Links to sources:
The Black Rifle: odysee.com/THE_BLACK_RIFLE_M16_RETROSPECTIVE:c
Report of M16 RRP: thecoltar15resource.com/report-of-the-m16-rifle-review-panel-1-jun-1968/
Daniel Watter's Excellent Timeline: web.archive.org/web/20230204110350/looserounds.com/556timeline/
A chart I made that covers the key events: odysee.com/M16PowderChange:c
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The Remington Model 11-48 - (Almost) the Perfect Shotgun
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The Remington 11-48 represented a pivotal moment for Remington - with this revised long recoil shotgun design, they catapulted themselves into the next half-century of autoloading shotgun dominance. It would take a vaguely antigun investment hedge fund to stop them, but that's a story for another time. With a suite of improvements, including quick disassembly, easy loading, 5 gauge options, and...
The Winchester Model 40 - Lightning Flops Twice
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Winchester tried again. It was a valiant effort, undermined by schedule crunch and poor testing. The end result was another, yet greater failure for Winchester - one that acted as the cement for the Auto 5. It was here to stay, and Winchester was done trying to dethrone it for awhile. While the Model 40's legacy ended up being extremely important to the future of shotgun development, this is mo...
The Hitchhiker - Most Fun A 22LR Can Get? [Un-Wrongthinked Edition]
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After make great reeducation and see many error in ways, I humble make glorious apology to great leader You Tube and offer video but with all wrong thinkings remove. Take a shot for each time I say fun. I can't stop saying it. This gun makes me smile. It's just such a pleasure to shoot. Did I mention that it's fun? I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical ba...
The Winchester 1911 - Questionable Execution of a Questionable Idea
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Finally, we get to the true start of the Naughto-5s - the Winchester 1911 Self Loading Shotgun. With Remington's Model 11 dominating the market, Winchester needed to respond - and had to evade Browning's patents to do so. While often maligned, the Winchester 1911 did offer several novel features - but did also fell short in many important ways. For a spreadsheet comparing details of the various...
The Remington Model 11 - Birth of the Not-Auto-5s.
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This is the Remington Autoloading Shotgun - later known as the Remington Model 11. The Model 11 may "just" be an Auto 5 clone, but it played a very important role in the popularization of autoloading shotguns in general. For a spreadsheet comparing details of the various shotguns covered in this series: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA-tUvvLu2nCZ89qfEqkCCvP8THGt7tyAAg7oxKdF7I/ I'm Ivan - a fe...
The Auto 5 - Browning's Best Design
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Welcome to the first installment in my series on the long recoil shotguns inspired by the Browning Auto 5. In this video, we'll touch on what this series of videos will entail, cover the basics of the Auto 5 itself, and bust some clays with a Superlightweight 12 gauge. For a spreadsheet comparing details of the various shotguns covered in this series: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA-tUvvLu2n...
Let's Talk About Tim Walz's Shotgun Debacle...
Просмотров 33 тыс.3 месяца назад
Tim had some trouble with his shotgun - but what exactly was the issue? It might be not be what you think... I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms. You can support me directly on Patreon - www.patreon.com/IvanPrintsGuns You can support me directly on Playeur - playeur.com/c/ivanthetroll You may know me fr...
Shotgun Chokes - Discussion and Demonstration
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Before I dive into more shotgun videos, I wanted to make a few touching on some basic terminology. In this video, we'll go over shotgun chokes. There are lots videos discussing how shotguns chokes work - but few of them give a technical demonstration (which I think is important). So, with much yapping, let's look at how shotgun chokes work, using a polychoked Auto 5 as our guinea pig. As discus...
The AR-15's Forward Assist isn't Pointless.
Просмотров 33 тыс.4 месяца назад
The forward assist on the AR15 has good reasons for existing, and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms. You can support me directly on Patreon - www.patreon.com/IvanPrintsGuns You can support me directly on Playeur - playeur.com/c/ivanthetroll You may know me from my w...
Gunsmithing, SDI, and other Thoughts
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Since people are talking about Sonoran Desert Institute (SDI) again, I went and put all my thoughts on SDI, getting into gunsmithing, etc in once place. I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms. You can support me directly on Patreon - www.patreon.com/IvanPrintsGuns You can support me directly on Playeur - p...
AR15-Obsessed Dork Debunks Wendigoon's AR15 Video
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I put together my response to Wendigoon's AR15 history video, which I believe gets a lot wrong - including it's central thesis. TLDW, the Army did stall and obstruct the AR15's adoption, but they had good reasons to do so. DOD rushed the adoption of the rifle, and the had good reasons to do so. The rifle did have problems early on as all rifles do. However, these happenings do not support a nar...
Meet the CM-1 3D Printable Fire Control Group
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Airsoft Airsoft Airsoft Airsoft Paintball Trigger In beta testing as of the release of this video! I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms. You can support me directly on Utreon - utreon.com/c/ivanthetroll/ You may know me from my work with ARES Research to help author reports about this topic - this channe...
Plastikov V4 Release Video
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You can go do the thing. I'm Ivan - a fella who works to document and record the history and technical background of the development of homemade firearms. You can support me directly on Utreon - utreon.com/c/ivanthetroll/ You may know me from my work with ARES Research to help author reports about this topic - this channel shows the "behind the scenes" testing that goes into building the body o...
7.62x39 Colt on a 3D Printed Lower
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7.62x39 Colt on a 3D Printed Lower
Nylon SF5 - 3D printed MP5 - with DIY Suppressor
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Nylon SF5 - 3D printed MP5 - with DIY Suppressor
Testing my CZAR Vz61 22lr's Bolt Hold Open
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Testing my CZAR Vz61 22lr's Bolt Hold Open
3D Printed MP5 10mm with a DIY Suppressor
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3D Printed MP5 10mm with a DIY Suppressor
Ten Minutes of Cool 3D Printed Guns - SuperReel Part 4
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Ten Minutes of Cool 3D Printed Guns - SuperReel Part 4
Hi, can you help me? I would like to know if you know where I can get the file to print the frame of the Browning Hi Power 9mm
Q: What's the easiest way to learn about the AR-15? A: Say something technically wrong about it. Hundreds of autists will come to correct you within minutes and will still somehow not be entirely correct, sparking an endless chain reaction.
Bạn có thể chia xẻ cho tôi file in 3d của khẩu súng này không tôi rất thích nó
What type of filament is this?
Nope ur wrong about the Garand. Best battle implement ever devised.. not like that mattel made junk.. never had any problems Honestly surprising how people will still say ar15s are unreliable, even after what 60 years after their teething issues? No mention of Garand development, because thats the boomer's holy grail.
As a fellow autistic gun nut, who knows and loves the history of the M-16 / AR15 platform (have trained heavily, mostly all my basic combat training, with the M16A2, first military rifle I qualified with and never shot below expert ;) , and deployed and carried the M16A4 with ACOG for one deployment in Afghanistan... which I liked much better than the M4, at least, it fit the terrain I was in VERY WELL) I appreciate the almost anal attention to detail, both in your explained history, and as well as pointing out all the small details on how the weapon series evolved and PERFECTED.
can I buy it from you?
@forgottenweapons
If you slog your way thru the congressional investigation you will see the Ord. Dept. And Olin were totally at fault for this rifle failure.
@@uselogicplease2380 if you take the ravings of congressmen as facts and ignore all the actual facts, sure. In reality, Eugene Stoner had more fault than either Ord Dept (which had legitimate reasons at the time to not want the rifle) or Olin (how can you possibly see Olin being at fault? Because their powder was suggested *by their competitor, Remington*?). Which isn't to say that the rifle's failures were all Stoner's fault - but the underweight, crummy buffer design and lack of chrome chambers were his decisions - and paired with the overall immaturity of the rifle, these were what caused rifle failures. Could Stoner have fixed this? Yep. Could Colt have? Yep. Could USAF have? Yep. Could Army? Army is the one trying to hold things up and fix it more often than not.
“Sabotage is intentionally making it fail…” So that’s the Elbonian Powder Theory then.
Your voice sound like Karl from inrangeTV
Forgotten Weapons and Small Arms Solutions could not be reached for comment.
I wonder what opinions Chris Bartocci would have on this
I love this tech so much and am a proponent of liberal gun laws, but you guys need to stop making them look like fucking toys
I like Wendigoon but he's far too willing to believe negative things about people in authority without the evidence to back it up.
awesome... a question only please, the impression has metal parts, like nerves that improve the support of the efforts? ... thanks for sharing, greetings from Ecuador !!
I have 2 mod. 11s. Love them. I personally really like the old safety. My father was a lefty so he didn't have to reach around the trigger guerd to take off safety.,and can ride the safety until thump it off. He was a quail hunter
Never knew the bolt rebounded thank you ! Always wondered why the buffer tube?
Very nice and well done!
Caaaaaaaacete😮😊
Someboy could please share me the files? I would make money selling this in my 3rd world country
I heard the powder change from a recording of Eugene Stoner, that's enough for me.
@@ai5dd Stoner clearly wasn't privy to the facts of the powder change. He had nothing to do with the rifle at the time the powder had to be changed.
Bad and wrong,it is badong! 😂😂
Fantastic M16-quad laser with what appears to be an impeccable decimal design! Happy 2025🎉 to you. May it be a memorable year for you at the lab.
Bump
Theres this dude name scootet hes a legend at it
have you tried the Hoffman super safety? On these since they use the same ar lpk lmk if it would work im try it
What lower is that
U bolt?
what was the original length of the barrel in the early model?
20 inches
First I've ever heard of imr 4475. Learn something new everyday. Lot like 3031 I read.
WOW...." 223 " WAS CREATED FOR THE DESIGN OF THE RIFLE. MILITARY POWDER AT THAT TIME WAS DIRTY. I WISH I HELD ON TO THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE MAKING OF THE AMMUNITION. ONE NCO, THE PAPERWORK OF WHAT POWDER TO USE FOR THE 5.56 ROUND. THE SPECIFIED POWDER BURNED CLEANER. THAT POWDER WAS NOT...NOT IN THE MILITARY LIST OF WEAPON POWDER. THE NCO " CHECKED " WHICH POWDER WOULD BE USED. THE SPECIFIED POWDER WOULD HAVE T9 BE BOUGHT, MANUFACTURED....TALKING ABOUT QUITE ALOT OF RIFLES BEING USED BY THE MILITARY. THE " COSTS " WAS THE REASON. THE POWDER USED " GUMMED" UP THE GAS SYSTEM. THE BOLT WOULD GET VERY DIRTY. GO FIND GUYS WHO HELD THR EARLY M16s IN COMBAT. HEAR THE PROBLEMS ENCOUNTED. PONDER....WWII....GARAND, CARBINE...GAS OPERATED....BUT NO TUBE DELIVERY TO THE BOLT. NO ISSUE WITH POWDER. THE TUBE....GAS REACHED THE BOLT VIA THE TUBE. GAS PRESSURE ENTERS THE CARRIER AGAINST THE TAIL OF THE BOLT . THE PRESSURE CAUSES THE CARRIER TO THE REAR. THE CAM, AS THE CARRIER MOVES REARWARD CAMS THE BOLT TO UNLOCK. THE WRONG POWDER WAD NOT A MYTH. ALL OF THE " BS" CHANGES WERE TO COVER SOME BEHINDS. MILITARY POWDET AND THE RIFLE DESIGN TURNED OUT TO BE A FIASCO. GO FIND THE " COMIC" BOOK THAT CAME WITH THE M16s. Given to troops about the issues of the rifle. Final ljne?....Clean the rifle as often as possible. The WRONG POWDER
I think your caps lock key may be stuck on. The wrong powder is a myth, the powder used today is the same as the "wrong" powder, and there's no magic gumming and clogging to be found. You should read the sources linked in the description, they'll correct some of the things I think you're confused on. Also, as discussed in the video, the "specified" powder you point to was also a military powder, and absolutely doesn't burn magically clean.
@IvanPrintsGuns Sorry the caps. A habit I try to limit. The powder that was " picked ". Was done by an NCO. His job was to " pick" which powder for the 5.56. Design specs for the 5.56 called for a specific powder. There was no powder of that spec. He " checked" the box for the usual rifle powder. When I read that and how the performance of the rifle in combat. I was shocked. What is a chuckle is how the AR15 was called a " sporting rifle" . Think the designer had any thought of it being used in combat. I do remember an article in one of my father's popular mechanics magazine. It was about this sporting rifle destroying a wall of cinder blocks and how a 22 could do such damage. I was in grade school at that time.
@robertspeicher5047 the power wasn't picked by an NCO. Stoner picked the original powder (IMR 4475), it couldn't safety meet velocity specs, so it had to be replaced. Remington recommended the new powder (WC846), Army tested it and others, and the powder Remington recommend turned out to be the best option. While Yount had signed off on this, it's not like it was somehow his idea, or that he unilaterally changed the powder, or that his job was picking powders.
@IvanPrintsGuns Stoner designated a powder. The story about the adopting the M16 was written to inform the procedure taken by the government. The STORY told of the paper work crossed the desk of an E9, an NCO. Weapon adopting required a procedure about any all about the new weapon. The POWDER to be used to MAKE GOVERNMRNT PRODUCED AMMUNITION. The specified powder by the designer wanted a powder that did not leave residue. Just help you a little MORE. Find out WHY THE FORWARD ASSIST WAS PUT ON M16s. The wrong powder ended up with the cycling of the bolt group would cause failure to chamber. WHY? The gas pressure exiting the tube to the gas key. The forward assist enabled the rifle man to chamber the round. ANOTHER ISSUE OF THE DEPENDABILITY.
@@robertspeicher5047 The IMR 4475 would not meet velocity/chamber pressure requirements, period. It was the ammunition manufacturers who refused to manufacture the large lots of ammunition using the IMR4475 powder, knowing they would be rejected at a great loss. Dupont didn't even have the production capability to produce IMR 4475 in the quantities needed if it did pass specs. IvanPrintsGuns is correct with his assessment and did an excellent job with this video. The gumming up problem was blamed on some lots of ball powder having too much calcium carbonate used for neutralizing the acids in the powder. There was actually zero evidence of this causing any fouling malfunctions, but they did limit its use to .25 percent with further manufactured powders. The M16 was not a fully developed rifle system as mentioned with the failed Edgewater buffer and non chrome chamber the DOD refused the military adopting (because of Stoner's statement) the chamber needed no further development.
should the timing notches be aligned? After disassembling my model 11 today they were loose and misaligned?
@@cbrando190 you mean the openings in the friction rings? I always align them, but I don't think it makes a big difference in how the rings perform. If your rings are loose on the mag tube, it wouldn't hurt to get a new friction piece and tensioning band (and a new recoil spring while you're at it!). However, if the gun runs smooth as it is, don't mess with it. But if it cycles light loads when set for heavy loads, you may want to refresh those friction parts!
Kalashnikov was an AK guy. He seemed to like the gun.
PLEASE make more of these.
my whole unit deployed to the DMZ in July '66 from Carson. I heard hey all got brandy new 16s. Never heard from them again. Here's to my 80th and 84th. of the 5th Mech wading across Nam to get a road built to the Ho Chi Minh trail
Holy CRAP 😮 I thought I had the "tism" when it came to the AR-15, dude your a friggin encyclopedia of all thing AR! Awesome upload! 🤙🏻
I mean I’m sure it’s a lot easier with the hammer already back. How would you do that on a striker fired gun like a Glock?
At the front , where it counts. Older dude. The m16 was issued to me in Vietnam. Trained with a M14 in the States. Got One morning of range time in Nam with the 16 before we got on the trucks and off to the bunnies. ( Indian Country) The 16 did jam, quit a bit. Traded it for a14 in a few days to a Remington Raider. No.jams. Not a myth , they did jam. Thinking on it, my 16 did not have a forward assist.
Really really good video. Thank you for making it.
Awesome video man, thanks. I thought I knew almost everything about the early AR15 days but this was all new to me.
This is so fucking cool
Wait, I can't just trust Fudd Lore on gun forum posts?!... NO WAY! 🤭
What i really want to see is the AR-15 in its original configuration (edgewater buffer and all) vs the M16A1 (if that is the allegedly worse version by the Stoner belivers vice the M16 prime) also vs the M16A2 in every test imagineable on film as an ongoing series. Use the 4475 as well as the more modern powders in all of them. This is one thing that infuriates me about academics is the reluctance to practically test the hypothesis beyond digging through research. It needs to be falsifiable to be a true theory or argument. Don't just trust all of the data as given, but attempt to duplicate the results.
What lower is on that rifle? A prototype?
If you can, do a mythbuster on M855A1! For years I thought it was going to blow up my gun, but turns out it's basically harder M855 now
We saw broken bolt lugs for years after switching to M855A1. Big increase in pressure. We also saw lots of pinning of the barrel extension face from those sharp hardened steel tips. A change to the tan mags fixed that, having both a different follower angle and different feed lips. As of 2020 we were still seeing broken bolt lugs, and the mil-techs at Ft. Jackson’s main post weapon’s pool had not heard of a fix.
@@CSMSteel7 I believe recently they switched to M855 level of velocities, but I don't know if pressures have dropped since the initial batches. Thank you for your insight from the weapons pool shop. I saw one guy's M4 BCG in 2015 look like it was fully chromed from overzealous cleaning. Hilariously enough it didn't pass the gas ring stand test yet was still overgassed.
@@JohnLin39395 See if there is a recent update to FM 3-22.9. It may cover it.
I learn more fron your AR-15 gun videos than any other youtuber. I was a believer in several of tgose myths, so thank you for correcting the record.
The first lots of ammo shipped to Vietnam had a lot of calcium in the powder. This caused the gas tube to clog up -along with the lack of cleaning caused a lot of rifles to jamb. This was quickly corrected. It’s been a while I don’t recall my source on this.
High calcium content was an issue with WC846 powder, but this issue wasn't identified or addressed until much later on (towards the end of Vietnam). While the calcium deposits from this powder could form in the gas tube, this wasn't a major or widespread issue (thus why it took so long to even discover). Everything including the Panama Tests was done prior to this discovery - so by the time everyone accepted the rifles were fixed and ammo was figured out (68-70 timespan) the calcium stuff wasn't in the picture.
Originally Remington named the 223 cartridge the 222 magnum and it didn't sell very well commercially then tweaked it a little bit called it the 223 and it sold well then the army accepted it as there new cartridge called it 5.56x45 , the 222 magnum cartridge was about 100 thousands longer had more case capacity and shot around 100 fps faster than the slightly shorter 223 not a lot of people have even heard of the 222 magnum cartridge i have a older Sierra loading manual that has hand loading listings for it , a older friend of mine has a old rifle chambered in it don't know if you can get ammo for it anymore
@@lawerncemiller6557 222 magnum and 223 are different cartridges. Please feel free to read the link I've left to The Black Rifle, it covers this topic. 222RemMag came from Springfield's SCHV program, and while very similar to 223, they aren't the same. 223 was designed by Eugene Stoner. Stoner started from 222 Remington (not 222 RemMag), moved the case shoulder forward, designed a new bullet for it, and specced a primer and powder. You have the story extremely distorted, and really should go read The Black Rifle. 5.56x45 didn't come about until the 80s...
I watched a video of a interview with Eugene Stoner talking about these issues with the M16 early failures and i remember him stating the army not using his recommended powder caused some of the failures the rifle had also he stated he recommended crome lined chamber barrel and the inside of the bolt carrier that wasn't adopted in early production , so what Stoner stated in that interview both the army and colt dropped the ball in my opinion
@@lawerncemiller6557 Stoner very specifically recommended *against* chrome chambers/bores, though he was in favor of a chrome plated carrier. He wasn't privy to the testing of different powders during the time of the interview (much of the testing was still classified then). It wasn't really the Army that changed the powder, either, despite how he thinks that it was. At the time of the interview, he may not have even known/remembered that IMR 4475 couldn't get the spec velocity without overpressure risk. While Colt could have picked a different powder in 1959, so too could have Stoner (either in the first place or after they had primers getting ejected in the Armalite days). By the time it was everyone's problem, everyone worked to fix it.
@@IvanPrintsGuns the interview I was speaking of was probably done in the 1990s after Stoner was retired
He wasn't privy to this information in 1990, either. It wasn't until the 2000s that most of the testing data was widely circulated.
The 223 cartridge was developed by Remington not Winchester or Eugene Stoner
@lawerncemiller6557 Stoner designed it and wrote the initial specifications. He had Remington load it (with bullets from Sierra, as memory serves), but it simply wasn't something Remington just came up with. Stoner specced the powder, case dimensions, bullet dimensions, and primers. I hope I didn't say that Winchester developed it. They were involved in it by the end, but that was past the inception point.