Your point about people, even guntubers knowing nothing about shotguns is dead on. Shotguns have the most misconceptions about them and everyone seems to assume that every shotgun works like the one they shot as a kid. It doesn't help that many people fill in their gaps in knowledge about them with whatever bullshit they make up or heard from someone else
Gun lore in general has been like this for probably centuries but at least decades. In some ways it's similar to the bullshit era of martial arts I grew up in (Gen X). It wasn't until we got UFC1 and the MMA movement that we all learned that some of these MAs were ineffectual if not pure bullshit. We're just now getting good gun content in video form, and even that is hit or miss because there's plenty of chuds who's fascination with guns is boom bang smoke and death with the creepier fcks.
I've specifically had people who have never touched a browning auto-5 gunsplain to me how the speed load feed system works to contradict me, a browning auto-5 owner about how my own gun works
If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard a gun tuber say “you can’t just point a shotgun in an area and pull a trigger” I’d have at least 5 dollars. They all repeat the same tired stuff, as the last guy.
Hit the nail right on the head with "everyone seems to assume that every shotgun works like the one...". As an avid fan of the browning auto-5 shotguns, I know firsthand that different years of manufacture have differences in the way they function, let alone different models entirely or different makes. I see this exact pattern of thought happen so many times with people assuming something that's true of one shotgun applies to all, or at least to ones that "looks the same as mine, and..."
@@0000Sierra117 I grew up with a speed-feed equipped A5. I had no idea the older models lacked that feature. I'm sure it was quite entertaining to watch me attempt to load my first non-speed-feed A5. I was so baffled.
I’ve never fired Beretta A400, so I don’t know the manual of arms. I did know that I had no idea what he was trying to do and he looked completely incompetent. Ordinarily, I wouldn’t care, but he was trying to demonstrate his familiarity with the weapon. His pheasant hunting exploits are part of his legend. He reminded me of ATF director Steven Dettelbach trying to remove the slide from a Glock. Embarrassing.
Absolutely!! (And, don't forget "the little kick-off thingy that helps protect your should from getting hurt"!!!!! Does he NOT KNOW how to say " recoil-reduction pad"????.
@@michaeldaltonsr8954 Him saying "recoil kick-off thingy, to protect your shoulder" was not any worse than your "recoil-protection pad" as only clowns thinking they know guns would say that when out hunting...
The reality is that this is EXTREMELY common among hunters owning a Beretta A400 or a Beretta A300 and only hunt a few times each year. I have seen professional shooters struggle to unload their Beretta because that is something they almost never do. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the different hunters that I have needed to help unload their Beretta, so I am NOT shocked to see Tim Walz struggle with it as well. I even almost got shot in a duck blind by a hunter that was way more clueless than Tim Walz was when it came to unloading his Beretta. And that hunter had owned and hunted with that gun for over 10 years...
@@JustinSmith-mh7mi He means .223: a 22 caliber bullet. 5.56 is the metric measure of .223 caliber. That isn't to say .223 and 5.56 are interchangeable terms, but they are the same diameter. For a rifle, 5.56 is a relatively low recoil bullet.
I wish everyone had a grandpa/father figure in their life to teach them this one simple lesson: there’s far less embarrassment in admitting what you don’t know, then pretending to know and making a fool of yourself. Hence why we love people like Paul Harrel, may he rest in peace, who despite their vast knowledge and expertise, exhibit humility and patience.
Walz mentions having bought the gun to shoot skeet. Normally that seldom requires the shooter to unload the chamber and/or the mag. Normally you just shoot until the gun is empty. Hunting is a much different environment and being familiar with the unloading mechanics would be required. Perhaps that may have been the case here.
That's what I thought anybody doing a critique should have focused on the fact that he owned the gun and didn't realize how to operate it and had to be told. Calling the inertia driven system a kickoff thing was hilarious. That being said I highly doubt they even had a hunting license as this was just a photo op.
@@LethallFruit I agree. I am guilty as charged in that I enjoy shooting skeet and have never hunted. I admit that I would have to review and practice the uploading procedures (both chamber and tube mag) for my Winchester pump actions so as not to look as awkward as Walz looked.
That is not a good chamber flag. No, it cannot fire in that condition but it does not indicate an empty chamber. A shell could still fit in the chamber with this "method". By yourself, it's fine, YOU know it's empty. With other people around, nobody can actually tell if the chamber is empty.
@@IvanPrintsGunsthat's how I do it if I'm stowing one cruiser ready / cruiser safe. Cheaper than a dummy round (which like to get next and sharp chips when ejected onto things like concrete and wouldn't be the best to put back in the chamber).
To be fair to Tim walz... He didn't shoot any of the other people there in the head, something that can't necessarily be said for a certain Republican vice president.
Lol remember when the guy he shot in the face "accidentally" had to apologize to him? Honestly it's kind of baller if you think about it. Dick Cheney is now endorsing democrats by the way, there has obviously been a party realignment since those times but people who can't cope with it pretend it never happened
I was gonna say, he was probably trying to unloading the shotgun. The shell likely wasn't releasing from the tube onto the loading ramp because it hadn't cycled normally. Edit: Yeahhh, I've never handled a Beretta, but some other semi-autos do the same thing... other shotguns have different controls, the one I recall firing years ago had a release on the side.
For a lot of modern semi auto shotguns, you have to hit the shell release in order to get a shell onto the lifter, or pull the trigger. This is to prevent you having to hold down the bolt release to load shells unlike older semi autos like the SPAS-12 (I can elaborate further on why if anyone’s interested).
@@seann2769 The way the bolt hold open works on pretty much every semi-auto shotgun (dating all the way back to the Browning Auto-5) is the carrier latch. When the shotgun has ammo, the tube kicks a shell out, which pushes in the carrier latch, allowing upward travel of the lifter. When the shotgun is empty, the carrier latch stays in place, thus blocking the lifter which is connected to other parts of the FCU that locks the bolt back. Pushing the bolt release simply manually pushes in the carrier latch, giving room for the lifter to move again. This, of course, presents a problem because now you have to hold down the bolt release in order to load it. Modern semi-autos get around that problem by keeping the carrier latch pushed in normally, and only pushing out the carrier latch when relevant. However, that adds the quirk that you can't eject a round from the tube simply by racking the bolt, because the carrier latch is still pushed in and you need it pushed out to hold the round in place and function properly. That's also why the bolt doesn't lock back when you just rack the bolt either. Only when you either pull the trigger or hit the shell release button, which pushes out the carrier latch, will the bolt lock back when empty or kick a shell out if there's still ammo. Anyways, 'tism over.
@@gameragodzilla I knew about the shell release button on berettas and benellis, but that whole write up really solidifies everything for me, thank you. So on the old auto 5’s, they had to hold the bolt release to load the thing??
@@seann2769 Yup. So were some older Beretta and Mossberg semi auto shotguns, too. The SPAS-12 is the only shotgun remembered these days for that requirement largely because the other shotguns either faded into obscurity after new models were available or, in the case of the Auto-5, updated to no longer have that requirement (though the Auto-5 uses a two piece lifter rather than the method other shotguns use). The SPAS-12 being a pop culture icon means people still pay attention to it, but since it’s also out of production it was never updated. So it ends up being the only shotgun people remember that have this requirement. But that was genuinely the standard for a long time.
Good rundown on this but I have to say based on the videos I've seen, Tim portrays himself as someone that's been shooting forever and hunts often...I've seen so many guys do the same thing. Also, in the video, he talks about this specific gun like it's something he's well versed with. To have to have a guide tell you how to operate your own gun, especially on the basics of unloading, tells you a lot, that he's probably not what he's portraying himself to be.
100%. Not to mention he's wear all brand new gear. I have the same shotgun. I will admit I struggled the first time I tried to unload it. But once you know what you're doing it's not an issue.
Lol, you mean Colion Noir doesn't know about shotguns. SHOCKER. Seriously, the amount of comments I read made me realize that all the people complaining about fuds are themselves larpers
colion is the token blacque dude that every "conservative" fudd insists on being part of the 2a movement as a shield against rayschism accusations. the right needs to just embrace rayschisms, because at the end of the day acknowledging that raysce is real IS rayschisms. who cares if the rest of humanity lives in denial. we just need maybe 10% of humans being enlightened enough to admit being raschist
As a fellow long sufferer under the Illinois government, I really appreciate the shotgun videos lately. I shot trap with my uncles and grandpa growing up, but Illinois constantly denied my FOID card for years and I was never allowed to own firearms until I dipped state and moved to Missouri. I've been printing and slowly building up my collection, and moving my firearms knowledge from sheerly academic to practical, hands on experience. But, shotguns are something I've always been lacking on. Thanks for providing great, easily digestible information and keep up the great work man!
@@jason200912 Turkish delight is a super mid dessert and I think that applies to Turkish shotguns that are the super cheap shotguns you see at every gun shop.
@@jason200912 "Turkish Delight" is a candy (or confection? Don't know the difference, a sweet treat is my point), and so the term gets used to refer to other things of Turkish origin, like shotguns in this case.
Thanks for clearing this up. I suspected that he was not trying to load the gun. MOST of the commenters made claims that he did not know how to load a gun. One thing about RUclips is that plenty of people are not hesitant to claim they are experts and are quick to criticize people.
It still isn't a good look. The way he was fumbling with it, especially taking into account your analysis, implies very strongly that he is not familiar with the manual of arms for the Beretta a400. Now, while there's nothing wrong with being unfamiliar with a particular manual of arms - there are an awful lot of them, after all - Not being familiar with the manual of arms for a shotgun that he bought back when he was "shooting a lot of trap" seems peculiar.
I think what people should have pointed out is if Tim walz decided to go "pheasant" hunting in Massachusetts with that "reasonable" shotgun our new "common sense gun safety laws" would make him a felon for using an "assualt shotgun".
We have all had issues with a semi-auto shotgun through the years. What is apparent is that he lied about shooting a lot of Trap because he's not very smooth with it. Unloading any shotgun with a tube mag can be awkward no doubt. The shotgun I competed with is like an extension of my body because I shot it so much, even after 20 years not shooting competitions with it I'm still as smooth as silk with it.
Ohio used to have a regulation that your shotgun could only hold 3 shells during migratory bird season. No matter what you were actually hunting. I think that its different now. Someone else can correct me.
@@randymagnum143 the 2024-2025 hunt and trap regulations doc says "10 gauge or smaller shotgun using nontoxic shot, includes muzzle -loading shotguns. In order to hunt migratory game birds, your shotgun cannot be capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a onepiece filler incapable of removal without disassembling the gun. Only nontoxic shot may be used to take waterfowl, rail, snipe, and common gallinule. Dove and woodcock may be taken with lead shot."
Perhaps, but I remember how my firearms work, once I have used them more than one time in my life. If I were to tout myself publicly as a gun owner, I'd be especially sure. But if it was only my first or second time with a brand new shotgun, and I was lying about the whole situation, I would probably fumble too.
@@rob6850 Dude... If I was being filmed and had an audience I'd have trouble unlocking my car. Don't assume the worst about somebody because you don't like them.
I've used a berretta before it was one of their light 2 pound guns that my grandpa let me use and it even confused me with the action when trying to unload because i was used to pump actions and break action shotguns which just have very basic shell operations. Its just one of those things thats good to practice and understand before you go out and hunt with it because I didn't use it for anything besides hunting which i only did in the fall.
Its a holdover from 100 years ago when small groups of hunters were massacring birds by the hundreds (if not thousands) per day. Often not even for meat, but for feathers. Punt guns were banned too.
i dont hunt but i always find it fascinating how many insane and arbitrary hunting laws there are and that i don't hear hunters complaining about them more often. It feels like a completely overlooked aspect of gun law that pro 2A people tend to ignore
@@mccad00 Hunting laws came about because of hunters. There is no wild game hunting if hunters 100 or so years ago didn't decide to ban market hunting, tax themselves via licenses and stamps, and add seasons and regulations.
I was looking at people reviewing the TS-12 a few years ago. I realized even reviewers were blaming the gun for their own issues running a new design. Blaming a gun for issues you have as a shooter is far too common. There is diligence required when working with any new machine.
As someone who likes Beretta shotguns this pleases my brain. Especially because the 391 Eureka was the first Beretta shot gun I had the pleasure of shooting.
Agree totally, during 3 gun events I've unloaded through the gate to avoid chambering a round but out in the field I'm just running the bolt specially with only a couple shells vs 13
I do find it funny how the best benefit of the doubt people can give to Tim Walz is that he was fumbling unloading the shotgun instead of fumbling loading the shotgun. Walz probably should’ve watched Paul Harrell’s video (rest in peace, good man) where he demonstrates how to unload a shotgun without looking like an idiot. And he had to do it while looking at the camera and explaining what he was doing.
I dunno, as someone who only owns a Mossberg 590 as far as shotguns go, I could tell from the clip being spread that he certainly wasn't trying to load the shotgun - but I couldn't say with certainty he was trying to unload it, not knowing berettas myself. What WAS clear to me was that he didn't understand the manual of arms for his own shotgun, one which he has allegedly owned for quite a while. So either his ownership was a lie or he bought a $2000+ shotgun that he used so little he forgot or never knew how to fully operate.
I'm sure you've handled every gun you've ever touched as if you were guarding the tomb of the unknown soldier. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. He kept his finger off the trigger, kept if pointed down range or safely away and didn't leave the gun in an unsafe position and got it figured out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@d-rot He wasn’t good, though. He clearly looked like he was fumbling. Now whether he was loading, unloading, locking the bolt back, etc., he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Hell, the fact that people are debating what he was even trying to do is proof of that. lol Either way, he’s way out of practice with his shotgun.
@@Idontevenwanachannel From what people are saying, it seems like he was trying to unload the shotgun from the bottom and catching the shells to put in his pocket. That’s fine, and how you’re supposed to unload the shotgun rather than repeatedly cycling the bolt. However, evidently he had no idea how to get the shells out and ended up awkwardly fumbling his gun as a result. As an aside, it’d also be easier to unload if he held the gun upside down, both so gravity doesn’t cause the shells to fall down and also so he could see the lifter. That is what I do when I unload my SPAS-12.
@@gameragodzilla Nothing fell to the ground, no one had the barrel swept over them. His finger was clear of the trigger. Everything else? Politics and bullshit. Holy shit, Tim Walz isn't perfect? No shit, you've added nothing. You're not perfect either. You mean to say being out of practice because you're a busy man doing your job as governor, VP candidate is a bad thing? Go touch grass man.
7:46 yeah the awkward controls and goofy magazine design of modern semiauto shotguns is what has kept me using my rusty $200 Auto 5 😅 that thing is beautifully simple and intuitive
Ivan, his Beretta shotgun is equipped with a pro lifter, it’s on the later model shotguns like he has including the 1301 Tactical and 1301 Pro. The pro lifter has a button right in front of the trigger guard that drops the gate down so you can load, a round into the chamber. I think that’s what he was having a problem with. The shotgun that you were doing the demonstration with does not have that feature, the pro lifter is very awesome. Once you load around and you drop the bolt the lifter will drop in, all the way to the top of the magazine tube, making reloading very easy. Once the tube is loaded, you press the button towards the backside of the lift gate near the trigger guard, and that will drop the liftgate back down, so the next round will automatically get in loading position.
My first impression was that he didn't know how to run his own gun, my second thought was maybe he was left handed, but overall it doesn't matter because this was an obvious political ploy, a "How do you do fellow gun-owners" moment if you will.
The major thing I saw wrong about Tim Walz's hunting exhibition was that he impersonated "plain folks." Fumbling with the shotgun seemed to be unloading at the end of the hunt--I didn't see much else, but it appeared that he was unloading. The easy way to unload a shotgun is shoot the ammo in the gun until the gun is empty. At least Timmy didn't point it at the camera as a certain actor did in New Mexico...
I hadnt actually seen the clips until this vid, necer really cared much what Mr. Walz was up too. But i definitely agree, he was unloading or at least attenpting to. At least he kept it pointed in the right direction and his finger off the trigger the whole time.
remember no matter what your personal beliefs are knowing how to fully use your gun if you have one should always be important. even if you have to watch a video or practice with empty rounds or shells.
Allegedly, he bought it when he was shooting a lot of trap. He asks "how do you get it back?" as he was attempting to lock the bolt open. Not sure if everyone was saying that he didn't know how to load it or he didn't know generally how to use his shotgun which he would have had a lot of reps on for all that trap shooting.
I posted the same thing on various other videos. I know this issue intimately. I remember very clearly switching from a pump to my semi auto benelli. If it was his gun, it's been a long time since he has used it
Al Franken went to a kind of ritzy hunting resort that my friends were working at (c. 2007). He didn't know anything about guns and actually tried to load a 12 gague shotgun shell backwards.
Vey good video and I totally agree with all you said. I have been thinking the same when I have seen multiple gun "experts" being totally wrong about the Tim Walz clip/video. And the extreme NRA guys have been the worst, proving how extremely clueless they are about shotguns. I have seen plenty of Beretta owners struggling with their shotguns, and that even after owning them for 20 years. And unloading them has always been what they have struggled with the most as that is something they never do when shooting clays. Tim Walz looked like a typical rather new Beretta owner or someone that only hunt with it a few times each year.
I actually said to my partner "I bet he got a shell on the lifter that was kinda cattiwampus. He said 'never seems to fit quite right' which sounds to me like that particular shotgun just has its quirks. Which some guns do. He still looks like the gun's winning though, which is funny. But he didn't do anything wrong per se." She said to me "People are still gonna roast him though." Which ... It's the internet. Of you're gonna get flamed.
Several states use migratory limit as a standard for simplicity since upland and waterfowl can be taken at same time with legal ammo types. When ive guided ive seen many many people have same issue Walz have and it either lack of using shotgun or new or borrowed.
Great video and a better perspective on both Waltz (whose familiarity with that shotgun is very suspect anmd also look like we was cosplaying a hunter) and guntubers who don't handle shotguns.
Dude, you got it ALL RIGHT, no political puns. You are a GREAT asset and i compare you to legends like JM and the likes as far as where i see your aim to be. Thanks brother, from Canada with love!
Agree he needed to push the carrier-stop button. But he kept looking at the left side of the receiver. I think he was also confused by the “cut-off” button on that model of A400. Just an overall lack of familiarity with his firearm.
Oh pheasant do migrate, sort of. They're not native, they're farm raised and released, and they never stick around, and if they do, they stick to the woods or heavy cover. And they move to find the best cover and food.
@1020donny The low end for those things is like 2 grand dude... Fumbling with a tool that costs more than most of your constituents make in a week is way out of touch. The function he forgot about is featured in most of the marketing for the A400. It's also in the manual that comes in the case for the gun. He did the stupid boomer thing where he buys an expensive toy for clout and doesn't know how to use half of its features. It's equivalent to people who buy luxury campers but can't back up a trailer.
@@1020donny A field tek is a couple hundred dollars and does the exact same thing without insulting the taxpayer. $1500 is still more than most of his constituents make in a week before taxes. I also fail to see where a New York Democrat fits in this conversation. Spending tons of money on a watch is just as stupid as spending over a grand on a shotgun that you don't know the basic functions of or a trailer that you don't know how to back.
I am happy to see a fellow hunter and gun owner like myself who can't stand those who put stupid opinions out there even though they don't understand the full situation and don't care to and don't listen, and is responding to that to set the record straight.
My first shotgun was a break action. Single shot. By the time I was ten my dad couldn't really boonie stomp any more so I got to start using his Browning "Light-Twelve" - a variation on the A-5 and he wound up just saying it was mine. UNLOADING that or any semi-auto or pump action shotgun posed the same issue. Does one just eject the shells onto the ground (and therefore have to make sure they don't pick up any dirt or mud) or go through the more awkward process of trying to catch ejected shells in the hand so they don't hit the ground? Walz was clearly taught (or learned) to not allow shells to hit the ground. But yes, it's awkward and more so with some shotguns than others. I don't have field or even range experience with Beretta shotguns btw. So it seemed to me even in the "Walz is a klutz" framing of the situation (leaving out footage that indicated the hunt was over and he was UN-loading Walz was using a technique of his to have the ejected shells fall into his hand and not on the ground. He even seemed to slip them into a pocket on his vest. I'd be willing to bet if he'd just ejected the shells onto the ground and then picked them up someone out there would have made a video jumping in his sh*t for THAT. Focusing on him putting the shells in his vest and claiming next time he'd load dirty/muddy shells into his shotgun that would cause it to jam! Some people simply want to find fault. I see a guy making sure his weapon was ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction. As he unloaded his shotgun.
@@immikeurnotShotguns are notorious for their recoil, mainly because felt recoil is a matter of momentum. A slow and heavy projectile is going to have more felt recoil than a faster and lighter projectile with the same muzzle energy. Momentum is P = mass x velocity, where kinetic energy is F = mass x acceleration, where acceleration = velocity squared. There is a great reason why so many recoil-induced gun fail moments on the internet involve new or cocky shooters with pistol-grip only shotguns smacking themselves in the face in at least a dozen different ways. Now autoloaders have much less recoil, but it is still quite a bit.
@@IvanPrintsGuns yeah a full 100 clays on a double barrel, even with lighter loads, can still suck. Especially for someone who doesn't shoot a lot, or doesn't have a well-fitting gun. People forget that normal 223 has less than 30% of the recoil of the lightest range loads in 12G. Heavier bird hunting loads (36gram, 1300-1450fps) has 5 times the recoil of 223. More people talking without thinking, even down here in the comments!
Wow ivan, i cant believe youre using this video to tell us all to vote for the democratic party 😂 or at least thats what the other comments seem to think
Colorado has 3 round limits on shotguns for all small game animals. You can hunt upland game on federal waterfowl management land, which he was supposedly on, but you have to use steel shot and 3 round shotguns, which are the rules for hunting migratory birds
I only have an 870. What should i get to fill the autoloader shotty hole in my collection? I'm leaning toward an old auto 5 pattern, but i'm undecided.
Saw a different creator demonstrate how to unload a similar berretta, and he kinda fumbled it, and he said he is familiar with it and always has problem remembering how to do it.
@@KrisTomich LMAO talking about the ruling class when you are pro maga is funny. Trump's family is ruling class. Have you seen their marble columns and gold toilets? He gets paid monthy by Elon Musk whose family owned Emerald mines. You worship the ruling class. You love them and want them to have all the power. You would use your 2A rights against your own family if Trump asked you. Aa a true centrist who hates dem gun laws. Atleast for the most part i can talk dem voters into being pro gun. Cant talk Trumpers into not worshipping a dude who has not 1 but 3 close aquaintences who trafficked children. If a dem did a fraction of what Trump did they would be on deathrow.
@@KrisTomichthe hypocrisy of the gub grabbing ruling class is the point. They advocate for and pass more gun laws, while violating existing gun law by accident, because there is already too many.
A400 you push up on the stock lifter and pull up on the bolt release and it ejects shells out of the mag. Sounds like he was running the bolt so he didn't know that about it. At least on my 1301. And it's 3 rounds capacity in a waterfowl area.
Good old Benny (facts don't care about your feelings) Shapiro said he owns a mossberg 500 and has never loaded it like what Tim Walz did. Therefore, Ben is correct because he owns a mossberg.
In the state of Minnesota there is no capacity restriction for shotguns for phrasants, but in South Dakota there is, its a state-by-state thing but even if there was more than three, thats perfectly legal
Shotguns that require you to fumble fuck around with pressing a button in order to get the magazine to feed and or get the bolt to lock open are genuinely annoying. Racking the charging handle should feed a round and that should be all there is to it. Remington 1100 for the win.
I'll be honest, I would probably need to fiddle about a bit with a Beretta a400 to figure it out since I've never used one before. Shotgun manufacturers seem to love to re-invent the wheel when it comes to controls
Thanks for the video. I saw him fumbling around with his hands in the general vicinity of the ejection port and bottom of the receiver along with the “can’t load his shotgun” captions and just assumed that was going on so you learned me something. I should’ve known better than to take it at face value especially when it was alongside the obvious bullshit about his gun potentially holding too many shells just like almost every other semi auto shotgun as if plugs don’t exist.
Hey, I bought a Tristar Raptor 20 gauge and I had the same issue. Not everyone is going to read the manual and not everyone has had the luxury of using a wide range of firearms and some people are just getting into guns and shooting and hunting. It's ok, we were all there once, but too many people forget that or let their politics get in the way. My gun club was pretty opinionated and they joked around, but they were very welcoming and helpful to all, no matter what. I didn't have the luxury of being around my dad who was into guns and hunting my whole life and I'm the youngest, so I had to rely on my wife and my gun club and my dad, who I let back into my life to teach me about guns and shooting and hunting.
There was a lot of misinformation, but it does show Walz was not entirely familiar with his shotgun. Perhaps he doesn't use it often and so not an avid hunter/gun owner.
"I bought it when I was shooting a lot of trap and skeet" I'm wondering how much time he'd actually had behind the gun prior to this, if any. I have a 1301, which is the same manual of arms, and coming from a bunch of rifles, it did take me a little bit of messing around with it to figure out how the mechanism was different than a rifle.
Recoil pad and beretta kick off are totally different. The “kick off” has hydraulic pistons to reduce recoil. Great for us old guys shooting magnum loads.
My stance is quite simple. I do not care if you are completely ignorant about guns, or the most competent shooter in the world; if you are trying to infringe on my Right to keep and bear arms, I have zero respect for you. This applies to Timmy.
I hate to see fudd on fudd violence
that's right there why I just have me a double barrel, they can't never jam like those jammo matics!
@@IvanPrintsGuns the ol' joe biden special
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Cough, cough Dick Cheney, pellets logged forever in his friends heart, cough.
Black eye gang got nothin on the bird shot shot gang
@@Sanch0000put both barrels in the air and then not have anything to shoot 😂😂😂
Your point about people, even guntubers knowing nothing about shotguns is dead on. Shotguns have the most misconceptions about them and everyone seems to assume that every shotgun works like the one they shot as a kid. It doesn't help that many people fill in their gaps in knowledge about them with whatever bullshit they make up or heard from someone else
Gun lore in general has been like this for probably centuries but at least decades. In some ways it's similar to the bullshit era of martial arts I grew up in (Gen X). It wasn't until we got UFC1 and the MMA movement that we all learned that some of these MAs were ineffectual if not pure bullshit. We're just now getting good gun content in video form, and even that is hit or miss because there's plenty of chuds who's fascination with guns is boom bang smoke and death with the creepier fcks.
I've specifically had people who have never touched a browning auto-5 gunsplain to me how the speed load feed system works to contradict me, a browning auto-5 owner about how my own gun works
If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard a gun tuber say “you can’t just point a shotgun in an area and pull a trigger” I’d have at least 5 dollars. They all repeat the same tired stuff, as the last guy.
Hit the nail right on the head with "everyone seems to assume that every shotgun works like the one...". As an avid fan of the browning auto-5 shotguns, I know firsthand that different years of manufacture have differences in the way they function, let alone different models entirely or different makes. I see this exact pattern of thought happen so many times with people assuming something that's true of one shotgun applies to all, or at least to ones that "looks the same as mine, and..."
@@0000Sierra117 I grew up with a speed-feed equipped A5. I had no idea the older models lacked that feature.
I'm sure it was quite entertaining to watch me attempt to load my first non-speed-feed A5. I was so baffled.
I’ve never fired Beretta A400, so I don’t know the manual of arms.
I did know that I had no idea what he was trying to do and he looked completely incompetent.
Ordinarily, I wouldn’t care, but he was trying to demonstrate his familiarity with the weapon. His pheasant hunting exploits are part of his legend.
He reminded me of ATF director Steven Dettelbach trying to remove the slide from a Glock. Embarrassing.
Absolutely!! (And, don't forget "the little kick-off thingy that helps protect your should from getting hurt"!!!!! Does he NOT KNOW how to say " recoil-reduction pad"????.
@@michaeldaltonsr8954nobody would say “recoil reduction pad” either lol
@@mrzuccy3010 If you listen, Walz did say "recoil kick-off thingy, to protect your shoulder", so even though it went over your head, I'll allow it.
@@michaeldaltonsr8954
Him saying "recoil kick-off thingy, to protect your shoulder" was not any worse than your "recoil-protection pad" as only clowns thinking they know guns would say that when out hunting...
The reality is that this is EXTREMELY common among hunters owning a Beretta A400 or a Beretta A300 and only hunt a few times each year.
I have seen professional shooters struggle to unload their Beretta because that is something they almost never do.
I don't have enough fingers and toes to count all the different hunters that I have needed to help unload their Beretta, so I am NOT shocked to see Tim Walz struggle with it as well.
I even almost got shot in a duck blind by a hunter that was way more clueless than Tim Walz was when it came to unloading his Beretta.
And that hunter had owned and hunted with that gun for over 10 years...
Ivan shotgun video 🥤
I'm still rolling over that picture of the navy officer with his sight on backwards and his stock over his shoulder
The stock thing is a stupid new tactics some people do now. They do it because it's 22 recoil is nonexistent
@@jason200912 Never heard of an M4 chambered in .22
@@JustinSmith-mh7mi old military naming. they only call it by the first 2 numbers of the cal and ignore the rest
@@JustinSmith-mh7mi He means .223: a 22 caliber bullet. 5.56 is the metric measure of .223 caliber. That isn't to say .223 and 5.56 are interchangeable terms, but they are the same diameter.
For a rifle, 5.56 is a relatively low recoil bullet.
@@duffelpuffelmcduff1181 Ah, word thank you. I learned something today 😌
I wish everyone had a grandpa/father figure in their life to teach them this one simple lesson: there’s far less embarrassment in admitting what you don’t know, then pretending to know and making a fool of yourself. Hence why we love people like Paul Harrel, may he rest in peace, who despite their vast knowledge and expertise, exhibit humility and patience.
That is why I like Max Miller of Tasting History. He readily admits when things don’t work out.
The NRA not knowing how a shotgun works is all you need to know about the modern NRA.
GOA actually does something to protect the 2nd. The NRA..............Not so much.
The NRA should be renamed the Wayne retirement company.
Walz mentions having bought the gun to shoot skeet. Normally that seldom requires the shooter to unload the chamber and/or the mag. Normally you just shoot until the gun is empty. Hunting is a much different environment and being familiar with the unloading mechanics would be required. Perhaps that may have been the case here.
Good point. 🤔
That's what I thought anybody doing a critique should have focused on the fact that he owned the gun and didn't realize how to operate it and had to be told. Calling the inertia driven system a kickoff thing was hilarious.
That being said I highly doubt they even had a hunting license as this was just a photo op.
Regardless someone should know how to use a gun before they load it . Just saying it’s common sense being a gun owner
@@LethallFruit He very likely did, when he bought it, but hasn’t needed to actually _perform_ the skill for years. 🤷♂️
@@LethallFruit I agree. I am guilty as charged in that I enjoy shooting skeet and have never hunted. I admit that I would have to review and practice the uploading procedures (both chamber and tube mag) for my Winchester pump actions so as not to look as awkward as Walz looked.
Yo, using a shotgun shell as a cleared chamber flag was genius. I'll be using that, thank you.
Some range officers will cry about it if you use a live round, but fired shells work great for it too.
@@IvanPrintsGuns probably true. 🫡
@@IvanPrintsGunssome people’s existence revolves around making Fudd RSOs cry.
That is not a good chamber flag. No, it cannot fire in that condition but it does not indicate an empty chamber. A shell could still fit in the chamber with this "method". By yourself, it's fine, YOU know it's empty. With other people around, nobody can actually tell if the chamber is empty.
@@IvanPrintsGunsthat's how I do it if I'm stowing one cruiser ready / cruiser safe. Cheaper than a dummy round (which like to get next and sharp chips when ejected onto things like concrete and wouldn't be the best to put back in the chamber).
To be fair to Tim walz... He didn't shoot any of the other people there in the head, something that can't necessarily be said for a certain Republican vice president.
Yeah this might be one of the least incompetent displays I've seen from a politician.
He obviously doesn't use it much, but the bar is pretty low.
Holy shit. It’s real
"sorry I thought you were a deer" - Cheney, family guy sketch.
As much as he's a Dick, the guy who got shot walked out in front of the other hunters. It was his fault.
Lol remember when the guy he shot in the face "accidentally" had to apologize to him? Honestly it's kind of baller if you think about it. Dick Cheney is now endorsing democrats by the way, there has obviously been a party realignment since those times but people who can't cope with it pretend it never happened
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I was gonna say, he was probably trying to unloading the shotgun. The shell likely wasn't releasing from the tube onto the loading ramp because it hadn't cycled normally.
Edit: Yeahhh, I've never handled a Beretta, but some other semi-autos do the same thing... other shotguns have different controls, the one I recall firing years ago had a release on the side.
For a lot of modern semi auto shotguns, you have to hit the shell release in order to get a shell onto the lifter, or pull the trigger. This is to prevent you having to hold down the bolt release to load shells unlike older semi autos like the SPAS-12 (I can elaborate further on why if anyone’s interested).
@@gameragodzillago ahead and elaborate
@@seann2769 The way the bolt hold open works on pretty much every semi-auto shotgun (dating all the way back to the Browning Auto-5) is the carrier latch. When the shotgun has ammo, the tube kicks a shell out, which pushes in the carrier latch, allowing upward travel of the lifter. When the shotgun is empty, the carrier latch stays in place, thus blocking the lifter which is connected to other parts of the FCU that locks the bolt back. Pushing the bolt release simply manually pushes in the carrier latch, giving room for the lifter to move again.
This, of course, presents a problem because now you have to hold down the bolt release in order to load it. Modern semi-autos get around that problem by keeping the carrier latch pushed in normally, and only pushing out the carrier latch when relevant. However, that adds the quirk that you can't eject a round from the tube simply by racking the bolt, because the carrier latch is still pushed in and you need it pushed out to hold the round in place and function properly. That's also why the bolt doesn't lock back when you just rack the bolt either. Only when you either pull the trigger or hit the shell release button, which pushes out the carrier latch, will the bolt lock back when empty or kick a shell out if there's still ammo.
Anyways, 'tism over.
@@gameragodzilla I knew about the shell release button on berettas and benellis, but that whole write up really solidifies everything for me, thank you. So on the old auto 5’s, they had to hold the bolt release to load the thing??
@@seann2769 Yup. So were some older Beretta and Mossberg semi auto shotguns, too. The SPAS-12 is the only shotgun remembered these days for that requirement largely because the other shotguns either faded into obscurity after new models were available or, in the case of the Auto-5, updated to no longer have that requirement (though the Auto-5 uses a two piece lifter rather than the method other shotguns use). The SPAS-12 being a pop culture icon means people still pay attention to it, but since it’s also out of production it was never updated. So it ends up being the only shotgun people remember that have this requirement. But that was genuinely the standard for a long time.
Good rundown on this but I have to say based on the videos I've seen, Tim portrays himself as someone that's been shooting forever and hunts often...I've seen so many guys do the same thing. Also, in the video, he talks about this specific gun like it's something he's well versed with. To have to have a guide tell you how to operate your own gun, especially on the basics of unloading, tells you a lot, that he's probably not what he's portraying himself to be.
100%. Not to mention he's wear all brand new gear. I have the same shotgun. I will admit I struggled the first time I tried to unload it. But once you know what you're doing it's not an issue.
Bull $hit
Lol, you mean Colion Noir doesn't know about shotguns. SHOCKER. Seriously, the amount of comments I read made me realize that all the people complaining about fuds are themselves larpers
colion is the token blacque dude that every "conservative" fudd insists on being part of the 2a movement as a shield against rayschism accusations. the right needs to just embrace rayschisms, because at the end of the day acknowledging that raysce is real IS rayschisms. who cares if the rest of humanity lives in denial. we just need maybe 10% of humans being enlightened enough to admit being raschist
Colion is… a lot. Is a fact.
That guy is a moron. No offense to morons.
As a fellow long sufferer under the Illinois government, I really appreciate the shotgun videos lately. I shot trap with my uncles and grandpa growing up, but Illinois constantly denied my FOID card for years and I was never allowed to own firearms until I dipped state and moved to Missouri. I've been printing and slowly building up my collection, and moving my firearms knowledge from sheerly academic to practical, hands on experience. But, shotguns are something I've always been lacking on. Thanks for providing great, easily digestible information and keep up the great work man!
I'm a poor so I never held a Beretta. I only know Turkish Delights.
Why do people call it that
same lol
@@jason200912 Turkish delight is a super mid dessert and I think that applies to Turkish shotguns that are the super cheap shotguns you see at every gun shop.
@@jason200912 "Turkish Delight" is a candy (or confection? Don't know the difference, a sweet treat is my point), and so the term gets used to refer to other things of Turkish origin, like shotguns in this case.
Hey, no hate. I love my Girsan Regard MC. It shoots true and works like a dream.
Turkish firearms have a bad rap, but they aren't all bad.
Thanks for clearing this up. I suspected that he was not trying to load the gun.
MOST of the commenters made claims that he did not know how to load a gun. One thing about RUclips is that plenty of people are not hesitant to claim they are experts and are quick to criticize people.
It still isn't a good look. The way he was fumbling with it, especially taking into account your analysis, implies very strongly that he is not familiar with the manual of arms for the Beretta a400.
Now, while there's nothing wrong with being unfamiliar with a particular manual of arms - there are an awful lot of them, after all - Not being familiar with the manual of arms for a shotgun that he bought back when he was "shooting a lot of trap" seems peculiar.
Yeah this guy’s breakdown didn’t do Walz any favors and just reinforces that fact
I think what people should have pointed out is if Tim walz decided to go "pheasant" hunting in Massachusetts with that "reasonable" shotgun our new "common sense gun safety laws" would make him a felon for using an "assualt shotgun".
We have all had issues with a semi-auto shotgun through the years. What is apparent is that he lied about shooting a lot of Trap because he's not very smooth with it. Unloading any shotgun with a tube mag can be awkward no doubt. The shotgun I competed with is like an extension of my body because I shot it so much, even after 20 years not shooting competitions with it I'm still as smooth as silk with it.
The worst thing Walz did was claim he had been using the shotgun for years.
Ohio used to have a regulation that your shotgun could only hold 3 shells during migratory bird season. No matter what you were actually hunting. I think that its different now. Someone else can correct me.
I believe, but am not sure, you don't have to plug it, but you still can only have 2+1
@@randymagnum143 the 2024-2025 hunt and trap regulations doc says "10 gauge or smaller shotgun using nontoxic shot, includes muzzle
-loading shotguns. In order to hunt migratory game birds, your shotgun cannot
be capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a onepiece filler incapable of removal without disassembling the gun.
Only nontoxic shot may be used to take waterfowl, rail, snipe, and common
gallinule. Dove and woodcock may be taken with lead shot."
@@j25-games96 I saw a gallinule once. Very awkward bird.
who among us hasn't fumbled things were used to doing when there's a crowd and cameras around?
Perhaps, but I remember how my firearms work, once I have used them more than one time in my life. If I were to tout myself publicly as a gun owner, I'd be especially sure.
But if it was only my first or second time with a brand new shotgun, and I was lying about the whole situation, I would probably fumble too.
@@rob6850 Dude... If I was being filmed and had an audience I'd have trouble unlocking my car. Don't assume the worst about somebody because you don't like them.
@@duffelpuffelmcduff1181funny. Good reason not to do that for a publicity stunt.
@@rob6850 You mean besides it being the most mundane thing to possibly film?
@@rob6850 in fairness, 90% of gun owners would have fumbled. We forget we're in the 10% of "power users".
I've used a berretta before it was one of their light 2 pound guns that my grandpa let me use and it even confused me with the action when trying to unload because i was used to pump actions and break action shotguns which just have very basic shell operations. Its just one of those things thats good to practice and understand before you go out and hunt with it because I didn't use it for anything besides hunting which i only did in the fall.
Kind of deranged how federal law only allows 3 rounds in a shotgun for bird hunting even though bag limits exist, what's the point
Its a holdover from 100 years ago when small groups of hunters were massacring birds by the hundreds (if not thousands) per day. Often not even for meat, but for feathers. Punt guns were banned too.
@@slimjim2584 no 2 gauge punt gun the size of a man )':
i dont hunt but i always find it fascinating how many insane and arbitrary hunting laws there are and that i don't hear hunters complaining about them more often. It feels like a completely overlooked aspect of gun law that pro 2A people tend to ignore
@@mccad00 Hunting laws came about because of hunters. There is no wild game hunting if hunters 100 or so years ago didn't decide to ban market hunting, tax themselves via licenses and stamps, and add seasons and regulations.
@@d-rotconservation used to be a conservative value. I wish I could vote Bull Moose.
I was looking at people reviewing the TS-12 a few years ago. I realized even reviewers were blaming the gun for their own issues running a new design. Blaming a gun for issues you have as a shooter is far too common. There is diligence required when working with any new machine.
As someone who likes Beretta shotguns this pleases my brain. Especially because the 391 Eureka was the first Beretta shot gun I had the pleasure of shooting.
I’d wager the amount of people making wrong assumptions who don’t own or have never used an autoloading shotgun is very high.
Agree totally, during 3 gun events I've unloaded through the gate to avoid chambering a round but out in the field I'm just running the bolt specially with only a couple shells vs 13
Never heard about this controversy. Thank you for explaining things and teaching me something new.
Well we know he hasn’t carried a weapon of war in combat and evidence shows his abilities with a semi auto shotgun are similar. Translation Putz!
I heard walz first loaded his shotgun with tampons.
Tampon Tim is a joke
I've been loving all these informative videos lately. Especially on shotguns. More shotgun content!!
I do find it funny how the best benefit of the doubt people can give to Tim Walz is that he was fumbling unloading the shotgun instead of fumbling loading the shotgun.
Walz probably should’ve watched Paul Harrell’s video (rest in peace, good man) where he demonstrates how to unload a shotgun without looking like an idiot. And he had to do it while looking at the camera and explaining what he was doing.
I dunno, as someone who only owns a Mossberg 590 as far as shotguns go, I could tell from the clip being spread that he certainly wasn't trying to load the shotgun - but I couldn't say with certainty he was trying to unload it, not knowing berettas myself.
What WAS clear to me was that he didn't understand the manual of arms for his own shotgun, one which he has allegedly owned for quite a while. So either his ownership was a lie or he bought a $2000+ shotgun that he used so little he forgot or never knew how to fully operate.
I'm sure you've handled every gun you've ever touched as if you were guarding the tomb of the unknown soldier. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. He kept his finger off the trigger, kept if pointed down range or safely away and didn't leave the gun in an unsafe position and got it figured out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@d-rot He wasn’t good, though. He clearly looked like he was fumbling. Now whether he was loading, unloading, locking the bolt back, etc., he clearly had no idea what he was doing. Hell, the fact that people are debating what he was even trying to do is proof of that. lol
Either way, he’s way out of practice with his shotgun.
@@Idontevenwanachannel From what people are saying, it seems like he was trying to unload the shotgun from the bottom and catching the shells to put in his pocket. That’s fine, and how you’re supposed to unload the shotgun rather than repeatedly cycling the bolt. However, evidently he had no idea how to get the shells out and ended up awkwardly fumbling his gun as a result.
As an aside, it’d also be easier to unload if he held the gun upside down, both so gravity doesn’t cause the shells to fall down and also so he could see the lifter. That is what I do when I unload my SPAS-12.
@@gameragodzilla Nothing fell to the ground, no one had the barrel swept over them. His finger was clear of the trigger. Everything else? Politics and bullshit. Holy shit, Tim Walz isn't perfect? No shit, you've added nothing. You're not perfect either. You mean to say being out of practice because you're a busy man doing your job as governor, VP candidate is a bad thing? Go touch grass man.
7:46 yeah the awkward controls and goofy magazine design of modern semiauto shotguns is what has kept me using my rusty $200 Auto 5 😅
that thing is beautifully simple and intuitive
Ivan, his Beretta shotgun is equipped with a pro lifter, it’s on the later model shotguns like he has including the 1301 Tactical and 1301 Pro. The pro lifter has a button right in front of the trigger guard that drops the gate down so you can load, a round into the chamber. I think that’s what he was having a problem with. The shotgun that you were doing the demonstration with does not have that feature, the pro lifter is very awesome. Once you load around and you drop the bolt the lifter will drop in, all the way to the top of the magazine tube, making reloading very easy. Once the tube is loaded, you press the button towards the backside of the lift gate near the trigger guard, and that will drop the liftgate back down, so the next round will automatically get in loading position.
His shotgun was made in 2018 and does not have this feature, as you can see in the video.
My first impression was that he didn't know how to run his own gun, my second thought was maybe he was left handed, but overall it doesn't matter because this was an obvious political ploy, a "How do you do fellow gun-owners" moment if you will.
The major thing I saw wrong about Tim Walz's hunting exhibition was that he impersonated "plain folks." Fumbling with the shotgun seemed to be unloading at the end of the hunt--I didn't see much else, but it appeared that he was unloading. The easy way to unload a shotgun is shoot the ammo in the gun until the gun is empty. At least Timmy didn't point it at the camera as a certain actor did in New Mexico...
I wasn't entirely sure what was going on until you explained it, I've only ever used mossberg and remington pump guns. I appreciate the explanation!
Elmer Fudd's outfit brand new.
Bugs Bunny has nothing to worry about.
thanks - I have never owned a semi auto shotgun or a Beretta and didn't know the particulars you demonstrated.
I hadnt actually seen the clips until this vid, necer really cared much what Mr. Walz was up too. But i definitely agree, he was unloading or at least attenpting to. At least he kept it pointed in the right direction and his finger off the trigger the whole time.
I don’t think he shoots or ever shot a lot of trap
remember no matter what your personal beliefs are knowing how to fully use your gun if you have one should always be important. even if you have to watch a video or practice with empty rounds or shells.
Allegedly, he bought it when he was shooting a lot of trap. He asks "how do you get it back?" as he was attempting to lock the bolt open. Not sure if everyone was saying that he didn't know how to load it or he didn't know generally how to use his shotgun which he would have had a lot of reps on for all that trap shooting.
Excellent points you're making there. I always enjoy your videos and your humor.
Tim Wallz shows better trigger discipline than about 30% of guntubers.
I posted the same thing on various other videos. I know this issue intimately. I remember very clearly switching from a pump to my semi auto benelli. If it was his gun, it's been a long time since he has used it
I usually check out the shotgun that I am going to use the next day prior to going out and making sure everything is okay before using it!❤
What happened to my normally scheduled lawn mower reviews :( Election year ™ comes for us all
Al Franken went to a kind of ritzy hunting resort that my friends were working at (c. 2007). He didn't know anything about guns and actually tried to load a 12 gague shotgun shell backwards.
Vey good video and I totally agree with all you said.
I have been thinking the same when I have seen multiple gun "experts" being totally wrong about the Tim Walz clip/video.
And the extreme NRA guys have been the worst, proving how extremely clueless they are about shotguns.
I have seen plenty of Beretta owners struggling with their shotguns, and that even after owning them for 20 years.
And unloading them has always been what they have struggled with the most as that is something they never do when shooting clays.
Tim Walz looked like a typical rather new Beretta owner or someone that only hunt with it a few times each year.
I actually said to my partner "I bet he got a shell on the lifter that was kinda cattiwampus. He said 'never seems to fit quite right' which sounds to me like that particular shotgun just has its quirks. Which some guns do. He still looks like the gun's winning though, which is funny. But he didn't do anything wrong per se." She said to me "People are still gonna roast him though." Which ... It's the internet. Of you're gonna get flamed.
Your explanation @8:50 cleared things up.
Several states use migratory limit as a standard for simplicity since upland and waterfowl can be taken at same time with legal ammo types. When ive guided ive seen many many people have same issue Walz have and it either lack of using shotgun or new or borrowed.
Great video and a better perspective on both Waltz (whose familiarity with that shotgun is very suspect anmd also look like we was cosplaying a hunter) and guntubers who don't handle shotguns.
Thank you for clarifying this. I personally have never used a Beretta shotgun. Still not voting for him.😉
I can't imagine that this display of shotgun prowess here would have convinced anyone to vote for him
@@IvanPrintsGuns No, but it was nice for you to give context on the video.
Dude, you got it ALL RIGHT, no political puns. You are a GREAT asset and i compare you to legends like JM and the likes as far as where i see your aim to be. Thanks brother, from Canada with love!
Ivan that was absolutely educational and very well explained!!
Agree he needed to push the carrier-stop button. But he kept looking at the left side of the receiver. I think he was also confused by the “cut-off” button on that model of A400. Just an overall lack of familiarity with his firearm.
Oh pheasant do migrate, sort of. They're not native, they're farm raised and released, and they never stick around, and if they do, they stick to the woods or heavy cover. And they move to find the best cover and food.
But could they carry a coconut? What is the average velocity of an unladen pheasant?
Has he been asked if he had a hunting license even because I highly suspect this was all just a photo op and they weren't even hunting anything.
My complaint has been "how do you own something so expensive without knowing how it works?" If you want to be ignorant, own cheap shit.
@1020donny The low end for those things is like 2 grand dude... Fumbling with a tool that costs more than most of your constituents make in a week is way out of touch. The function he forgot about is featured in most of the marketing for the A400. It's also in the manual that comes in the case for the gun. He did the stupid boomer thing where he buys an expensive toy for clout and doesn't know how to use half of its features. It's equivalent to people who buy luxury campers but can't back up a trailer.
@@1020donny A field tek is a couple hundred dollars and does the exact same thing without insulting the taxpayer. $1500 is still more than most of his constituents make in a week before taxes. I also fail to see where a New York Democrat fits in this conversation. Spending tons of money on a watch is just as stupid as spending over a grand on a shotgun that you don't know the basic functions of or a trailer that you don't know how to back.
It is cheap to him.
Just like rich folks who own big yachts and don't know how to operate them.
I am happy to see a fellow hunter and gun owner like myself who can't stand those who put stupid opinions out there even though they don't understand the full situation and don't care to and don't listen, and is responding to that to set the record straight.
My first shotgun was a break action. Single shot. By the time I was ten my dad couldn't really boonie stomp any more so I got to start using his Browning "Light-Twelve" - a variation on the A-5 and he wound up just saying it was mine. UNLOADING that or any semi-auto or pump action shotgun posed the same issue. Does one just eject the shells onto the ground (and therefore have to make sure they don't pick up any dirt or mud) or go through the more awkward process of trying to catch ejected shells in the hand so they don't hit the ground? Walz was clearly taught (or learned) to not allow shells to hit the ground. But yes, it's awkward and more so with some shotguns than others. I don't have field or even range experience with Beretta shotguns btw.
So it seemed to me even in the "Walz is a klutz" framing of the situation (leaving out footage that indicated the hunt was over and he was UN-loading Walz was using a technique of his to have the ejected shells fall into his hand and not on the ground. He even seemed to slip them into a pocket on his vest. I'd be willing to bet if he'd just ejected the shells onto the ground and then picked them up someone out there would have made a video jumping in his sh*t for THAT. Focusing on him putting the shells in his vest and claiming next time he'd load dirty/muddy shells into his shotgun that would cause it to jam!
Some people simply want to find fault. I see a guy making sure his weapon was ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction. As he unloaded his shotgun.
Eh, you can unload your shotgun without dropping the shells and without looking awkward if you know how to operate it. Ivan just did do.
Over and unders are my preference, I fired a few semi auto shot guns i don t like the shells going every where.
Didn't realize skeet shooting was so hard on the shoulder. 🤣
It can be if you do enough of it, especially if you're old or otherwise physically situated to be more sensitive to recoil
Not when you think how frail old people are, it would leave his should black and blue.
@@user-ue6iv2rd1n Walz is only 60. He looks bad for his age, but 12 gauge really doesn't kick that hard, especially in an auto.
@@immikeurnotShotguns are notorious for their recoil, mainly because felt recoil is a matter of momentum. A slow and heavy projectile is going to have more felt recoil than a faster and lighter projectile with the same muzzle energy. Momentum is P = mass x velocity, where kinetic energy is F = mass x acceleration, where acceleration = velocity squared. There is a great reason why so many recoil-induced gun fail moments on the internet involve new or cocky shooters with pistol-grip only shotguns smacking themselves in the face in at least a dozen different ways.
Now autoloaders have much less recoil, but it is still quite a bit.
@@IvanPrintsGuns yeah a full 100 clays on a double barrel, even with lighter loads, can still suck. Especially for someone who doesn't shoot a lot, or doesn't have a well-fitting gun. People forget that normal 223 has less than 30% of the recoil of the lightest range loads in 12G. Heavier bird hunting loads (36gram, 1300-1450fps) has 5 times the recoil of 223.
More people talking without thinking, even down here in the comments!
Wow ivan, i cant believe youre using this video to tell us all to vote for the democratic party 😂 or at least thats what the other comments seem to think
The sort of people who needed this video most are quick to reveal themselves
Colorado has 3 round limits on shotguns for all small game animals. You can hunt upland game on federal waterfowl management land, which he was supposedly on, but you have to use steel shot and 3 round shotguns, which are the rules for hunting migratory birds
"Trapp". a nice tight choke, guaranteed to turn a pheasant into dust. Gonna, shoot a ground bird with an aerial gun?
Specifically calling out "right wing" channels, totally not biased at all
Did many left wing channels incorrectly state that he was trying to load the gun?
I only have an 870. What should i get to fill the autoloader shotty hole in my collection? I'm leaning toward an old auto 5 pattern, but i'm undecided.
If you only have an 870 is it really a collection? lol. Getting ahead of yourself there bud.
Auto 5 is best shotgun, stay tuned as I'll eventually get to a series of shotgun videos that'll look at a lot of Auto 5 patterns.
Saw a different creator demonstrate how to unload a similar berretta, and he kinda fumbled it, and he said he is familiar with it and always has problem remembering how to do it.
I did have a good time Ivan, thanks!
Colorado bans any shotgun from holding 3 rounds while hunting, for both migratory and non migratory birds.
People keep posting that like it matters for the ruling class.
@@KrisTomich LMAO talking about the ruling class when you are pro maga is funny. Trump's family is ruling class. Have you seen their marble columns and gold toilets? He gets paid monthy by Elon Musk whose family owned Emerald mines. You worship the ruling class. You love them and want them to have all the power. You would use your 2A rights against your own family if Trump asked you.
Aa a true centrist who hates dem gun laws. Atleast for the most part i can talk dem voters into being pro gun. Cant talk Trumpers into not worshipping a dude who has not 1 but 3 close aquaintences who trafficked children. If a dem did a fraction of what Trump did they would be on deathrow.
@@KrisTomichis this even enforced for the ‘non-ruling class’?
@@KrisTomichthe hypocrisy of the gub grabbing ruling class is the point. They advocate for and pass more gun laws, while violating existing gun law by accident, because there is already too many.
@@KrisTomich it does with cameras rolling
A400 you push up on the stock lifter and pull up on the bolt release and it ejects shells out of the mag. Sounds like he was running the bolt so he didn't know that about it. At least on my 1301. And it's 3 rounds capacity in a waterfowl area.
I wish my Remington 1100 had that design, it's very innovative and the Auto 5 even has something like that as well.
Good old Benny (facts don't care about your feelings) Shapiro said he owns a mossberg 500 and has never loaded it like what Tim Walz did. Therefore, Ben is correct because he owns a mossberg.
Did this actually happen? Hilarious if true.
In the state of Minnesota there is no capacity restriction for shotguns for phrasants, but in South Dakota there is, its a state-by-state thing but even if there was more than three, thats perfectly legal
As always, vastly appreciated.
Everyone wants guns, but nobody seems to go for the bear arms that Constitution mentions.
I didnt realize how complicated semiauto shotguns are (maybe just berettas). Pumps and Rifles are so much simpler.
Shotguns that require you to fumble fuck around with pressing a button in order to get the magazine to feed and or get the bolt to lock open are genuinely annoying. Racking the charging handle should feed a round and that should be all there is to it. Remington 1100 for the win.
I'll be honest, I would probably need to fiddle about a bit with a Beretta a400 to figure it out since I've never used one before. Shotgun manufacturers seem to love to re-invent the wheel when it comes to controls
Knew it had to have something to do with the shell release as soon as I saw it was a beretta A400
Simple being nervous not dangerous.....my God place yourself in the role Tim is now in 💙
Screw that commie.
Yea, unloading shotguns can be awkward. Ive got 3 different models and they all unload differently just to keep things interesting.
Thanks for the video. I saw him fumbling around with his hands in the general vicinity of the ejection port and bottom of the receiver along with the “can’t load his shotgun” captions and just assumed that was going on so you learned me something. I should’ve known better than to take it at face value especially when it was alongside the obvious bullshit about his gun potentially holding too many shells just like almost every other semi auto shotgun as if plugs don’t exist.
It is funny, but I'm gonna say that operating a shotgun isn't real high on my list of things that a president can do.
Hey, I bought a Tristar Raptor 20 gauge and I had the same issue. Not everyone is going to read the manual and not everyone has had the luxury of using a wide range of firearms and some people are just getting into guns and shooting and hunting. It's ok, we were all there once, but too many people forget that or let their politics get in the way. My gun club was pretty opinionated and they joked around, but they were very welcoming and helpful to all, no matter what. I didn't have the luxury of being around my dad who was into guns and hunting my whole life and I'm the youngest, so I had to rely on my wife and my gun club and my dad, who I let back into my life to teach me about guns and shooting and hunting.
There was a lot of misinformation, but it does show Walz was not entirely familiar with his shotgun. Perhaps he doesn't use it often and so not an avid hunter/gun owner.
This was very insightful , very different gotchas to a mossberg . RUclips must hate this video though
These make a Remington 1100 look intuitive
Do blue shot guns have the patented kick off thing or can you you replace a recoil pad on a black shot gun?
"I bought it when I was shooting a lot of trap and skeet"
I'm wondering how much time he'd actually had behind the gun prior to this, if any. I have a 1301, which is the same manual of arms, and coming from a bunch of rifles, it did take me a little bit of messing around with it to figure out how the mechanism was different than a rifle.
Didn't realize a recoil pad was a "kick off thing"
Recoil pad and beretta kick off are totally different. The “kick off” has hydraulic pistons to reduce recoil. Great for us old guys shooting magnum loads.
He was a decorated war hero he definitely knows how to handle a gun.😂😂😂
My stance is quite simple.
I do not care if you are completely ignorant about guns, or the most competent shooter in the world; if you are trying to infringe on my Right to keep and bear arms, I have zero respect for you.
This applies to Timmy.
You inspired me to take my KS-7 out for a little spin today.