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New Canberra Stadium Could Cost $3 BILLION?
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Victoria need a new team
I really like the idea of Adelaide joining the NRL. I agree also in NZ having a second team and Perth getting a team. It would make the competition national and give more opportunities to kids who want to play Rugby League.
Canberra badly need a new rectangular stadium. Watch the Raiders average crowds go up by 5-10k if they have a roofed stadium in the city.
A lot of victorians have moved to Cairns so there is interest in AFL
Do you think that all the people outside of Melbourne agree with the amount spent on the underground ,all while the country roads are falling apart.
The MCG is just another boring old "stadium", no different from hundreds of others around the world. Adelaide Oval on the other hand is unique. (check that in the Oxford Dictionary)
What a gigantic waste of money
Pour the money in there - Go Cats....
Who plays at number 3?
$3 billion is absolute rubbish. That is what NFL billionaires pay for 60K seated, state of the art stadiums. Who comes up with these lies?
Nonsense suggesting a $2 billion+ pricetag. A basic, fully enclosed stadium, with seating for 30k can easily be built for $1Billion tops.
The proposed Liberal location would be good, but I really don't think the stadium they have shown the render of fits. I think they may have scaled the size from the Allianz one and reduced it by 30% to get the size. The Commbank stadium which has the same capacity of the proposed doesnt fit. I also highly doubt the NCA would approve a stadium on the lake forefront.
Raiders have never averaged more than 15k a season. A 20k city stadium with good transport connection and full every week is so many times better than a 50k stadium in the boondooks that sits half empty all year round.
The Raiders average that because the stadium is shithouse and out in the middle of nowhere. The stadium is also below ground so its freezing whenever you go to a game. Watch them regularly average 20-25k with a roofed stadium in the middle of the city.
Andrew Barr going on about zoning and planning rules hahaha, they literally change them every single day to accommodate their big developer friends. Buy a plot of land zoned for 40 apartments, developer proposes 400, Andrew Barr compromises at 250 and they both win.
No. Give it to Brisbane. We have the Olympics coming up, we need the money. Same with your stadium Hobart. Don’t build it, we need the money
living in Canberra we all know our Government is a joke. $3b equates to $100k per seat in a 30k stadium. Sofi Stadium in LA was what $4b? and that stadium is the best in the world. This reeks of corruption. That stadium shouldn't cost more than $700m even with a roof
It's not just the bricks and mortar that you pay for building a stadium. There's a massive amount of associated expenses involved with infrastructure and paying bribes to the unions so they can use substandard materials and labour and bribes to the council to allow all manor of things to slip by unnoticed. Access infrastructure is not a cost that can be subtracted saying "well that's not the stadium". Don't count the proposed stadium in Hobart on this. Those figures are literally pie in the sky guesses to shut up people who have a Tasmanian education and do can't count or those that think about football, football and football, AFL and football.... Anyone with a slightly functional brain can easily see that there no possible way to build it for so little money. Current estimates based on actual pricing just to get the site ready are at $1.1bil. Not to mention them having to move a heritage listed building and the RSLs ANZAC memorial.
1:34 SEE THAT RED RUNNING TRACK I RAN THERE FOR SOUTH COAST RUNNING CARNIVAL
I reckon Lang Park and Parramatta stadiums look great. Simple modern sporting aesthetic with efficient construction. If the architectural brief is to build a sports cathedral, you can triple the price. Or you can do something in between. The costs obviously get baked in up front with that strategic decision. Simple elegant design can be beautiful.
How about some homes for the homeless and disadvantaged
This is what we call pie in the sky here in NZ hahaha.
Christchurch is getting a 30k roofed stadium at around $700 million
Let’s hope Canberra residents will be footing the entire bill
well it will likely be co funded, just like the Townsville stadium was for example. Most stadiums get some federal funding.
What is it with state Labor parties and their 3 billion price tags? Who does the quotes? The CFMEU?
Doesn’t even look as good as the proposed similar sized roofed Hobart AFL stadium ….. $3B? That’s a CFMEU controlled construction?
Half the size of Optus for the same price!!?? Absolutely insane.
Please just don’t build up the goal line seats no one sits there
The high cost for the Civic site has more to do with the issues with that location. It’s right between Constitution Avenue and Parkes Way which is a major arterial road. They’re talking about having to put that as a tunnel to have enough space. If it was at say the Racecourse it would be much cheaper.
Bullshit it'll cost $3B, absolute cap! The Libs idea for new stadium at Acton Waterfront looks great though
$1bn to build a mid sized stadium in Canberra 😂
This old story. Look, Bruce Stadium isn't great, but its location is abysmal. There simple needs to be a stadium either in the city, or somewhere close along the light rail line
Build it big enough to attract bigger events, like international union, league and soccer/football games. Build it big enough to host origin. Over the years Canberra has become a league city, id love to see it host origin, but a 30,000 seat stadium wouldnt do.
Canberra is too far down the pecking order to be poaching high profile international fixtures that'd demand a larger stadium than 30000. Then again maybe I'd be a good place for the Wallabies the way they're going
Wow that is 1.5 billion sterling, Man Utd are potentially going to build a stadium for 2.0 billion that will be state of the art with a capacity of 100,000. No roof as they are still tough up North not like the average modern Aussie!!!
There's nowhere near as much $$$$ floating about down under as there is in the UK.
These costings seem to be from someone keen to kill it
Got to be a near on a 50,000 seater. Or what’s the point.
400% doesn’t surprise me at all. Remember prices were through the roof post covid as a consequence of supply and demand. Now the supply is there the prices never dropped accordingly.
They’re currently spending $577M to build 1.7km of light rail in the same area. It’s absurd, why the hell are construction costs so high? I think we need to sort out the ridiculous prices before we do any more major projects. Don’t get me wrong, I want the light rail but for the price we’re paying we should be getting a significant amount more.
Most of that would be getting London Circuit to level grade with Commonwealth right? They’ve been working on that forever!
@@FastFoodFeast Perhaps, but I’m not sure if you recall but they were planning to lower several kms of Parkes Way as part of the city to the lake project and that was only meant to cost ~$160M (from memory, I couldn’t actually find the figures). Although that was probably a massive understatement.
@@lamsmiley1944 And that was 10 years ago right? You’d think at least $500m now, probably closer to $1b.
@@FastFoodFeast Yes, but that project requires a huge amount of earth works
As someone in the Constrution industry, everyone knows that if it is a Government job you can jack up your fees by 50% for no reason other then it being Government. If the stadium was privately funded it would cost half the price
Whatever they do, having a roof is a must!
Raiders pull strong crowds considering the annoyance of getting to the ground/ parking
Brumbies?
@@mikespearwood3914nah, nothing
Here’s a wild idea. Convert Bruce Stadium into an AFL ground as it’s already in that shape and move the Giants there. They are pulling bigger crowds than the Brumbies Then turn Manuka oval into a roofed rectangular stadium with a proper underground car park and a public transport hub plus training facilities for the Brumbies and A League team. Raiders already have that HQ so can’t see them moving
Actually not a horrible idea It’s too late though
Bruce isn’t that big. To turn into an AFL ground would cost big money.
Bruce Stadium is obsolete and the location sucks. Converting it into an Australian Football ground will cost as much as a new ground. May as well spend that money on Manuka Oval. It's likely heritage listed as an Oval. Just build a new rectangular stadium in Civic or Acton
@@PjRjHj getting permission would be a nightmare to build in civic, I would love for that to happen but it’s federal land
I'm not sure it would be easy to return Bruce to an oval or cost effective. Manuka could be improved though.
What attendees? $3 billion for the undersized crowds in Canberra is criminal. Make it a Trillion and due to the usual genius planning make it as remote from public transport as possible, just like the Bruce Stadium that went over budget x11.
Reopening The Private Bin is surely more of a priority
Whoa, just had flashbacks and my feet feel sticky. IFKYK!!
My calve grew an inch everttime i was there from having to unstuck my feet from the floor hahah
Any new Stadium in Canberra must be 100% rectangular!! none of this Multi-use crap that never gets used at Marvel stadium or what has handicapped Stadium Australia at the Ends. AFL can wait in line.
Bingo! The Raiders have been committed to the city for decades and the AFL only flirt with the city part time. Raiders deserve a purpose built stadium.
We have no fulltime cricket or AFL team, so unless like Tassie, we were told we could have an AFL team and/or bigbash team, why waste money on an oval? I do think Manuka needs some better seating etc.
@@titoelcomombiano 100% agree The Raiders should be rewarded for committing to the city for decades. The AFL should have to earn a new stadium by committing to the city and playing a new Canberra team at Manuka for a while.
It's a proposal from the ACT Liberals they have no chance of taking power, so it won't happen
NRL needs new modern stadiums. They cannot play in 3rd tier stadiums anymore. Out of 17 teams, they only have 4 modern stadiums. Compare that with the AFL!
The NRL chooses to play in suburban stadiums. And then they've scammed taxpayer money to upgrade some of those.
Well to be fair alot more people show up to AFL games (ik majority of the stadiums can fit more people). NRL is more of a tv sport and you can see when the stadium isnt full it doesn't look good
The AFL only has four modern stadiums don't they? Gold Coast, Western Sydney, Optus and Adelaide Oval. The MCG, Marvel, SCG and Gabba are a bit gnarly..
You are forgetting that Rugby League is/was played at some of the venues now used by Australian Rules. The SCG and Sydney Showground for a start. The only problem is, it is too difficult to watch a game on a rectangular pitch in a round arena, which is why venues such as the Sydney Football Stadium, Parramatta Stadium, Graham Park (Gosford), Lang Park (Brisbane) and Stadium Australia. Penrith Park is about to be knocked down and rebuilt. To be honest, I'd rather hark back to the old days of greying out on the hill with a pie, chips and coke. I don't go to the footy to eat smoked salmon.
@LaurensKop Have you been to marvel and the g? They're pretty modern to me
Stadiums apparently need roofs now, because the modern generations are so soft these days! 😂
Yes I love leaving work and going to sit in cold freezing Canberra rain to watch my team lose by 24+ or win by 2
People just don't want to be cold? Like it can get very cold in Canberra, especially on winter nights
@@masondemanuele1516 Dress appropriately and you won't feel the cold! Layer up and wear a weatherproof jacket over the top and you're good to go! 👍 You don't hear the Poms and the Scots complain when they attend their sporting events in the freezing cold. Aussies were once known as a tough breed, now we've gone soft.
@@wilwick756 It's colder in the north of England and Scotland, they don't whinge and moan like modern Aussies do. All the past Australians of generations ago would be rolling in their graves over how soft modern Australians are!
Do you really want to get drenched watching a game?
The AFL needs a team in Canberra, would be so much more valuable to the league than several of the Melbourne teams.
They have a proxy in GWS; who play a few games there. Could see GWS shift there permanently.
@@mikespearwood3914Nup give Canberra it’s own team
@@mikespearwood3914 GWS get better crowds in Canberra, which is impressive given they max out the capacity in Canberra.
Instead of creating a new team for Canberra they should relocate GWS and change their name to the Canberra Giants or something because they usually sell out manuka oval and they have a fair few fans there. Sydney don't need 2 teams esp becayse GWS struggle there
@@falchooncause Western Sydney don’t give a fuck about AFL
Just build a 40k stadium that’s multi use
No, multi use is shit for Rugby League
NO The Raiders have committed to the city for decades. They deserve their own rectangular stadium.
The Taxpayers money that is being wasted on Stadiums in Australia is an absolute disgrace. We are in the middle of a Huge Housing Crisis. Both the NRL and AFL are Tax Exempt and Pay no Tax. Why are they being treated as Charities.
Stadiums are public assets that generate income. The money is hardly wasted. You think teams don't pay huge rent to play at these venues?
Public assets with limited usage. AFL revenues were over 1bn in 2023 AFL and NRL should be forking money out of their own pockets. They can afford it
@@_peepyopeeDo do you expect Taylor Swift to pay for her own stadiums? As stated elsewhere the AFL and NRL pay millions in rent.
@@scottwilliam6141 you couldn't have used a worse example
@@_peepyopee Really ? Do explain. I think the point is clear.
I hate mixed use venues but if it’s gonna cost 3 billion dollars then surely they could use it for AFL too to try to get their own team there
AFL has no place in Canberra
@@strikerbowls791 hahah yes it does! Crowds on par with Raiders and that's not even for a Canberra team! AFL has been around longer in Canberra then then Rugby League has
@@strikerbowls791 AFL was the most pupular sport followed by Union back in the early 80's. the Raiders came in and converted the town, but there are a lot of AFL fans in Canberra.
NO! The Raiders shouldn't be fucked over so the AFL can play a couple games there. The Raiders have committed to the city for decades and deserve a rectangular stadium. Let the AFL play at Manuka and show their commitment to the city before they spend money on them.
@@B-tr9kz raiders should go back to qbn
If you can find 3 billion for a rectangular stadium in Canberra there's surely enough between the couch cushions for a Gabba rebuild/ permanent athletics venue
100% like I want a new stadium but how do we get one but Brisbane doesn't get the Gabba rebuilt for the Olympics
The Commonwealth isn't responsible for building stadiums. They didn't put a cent into Sydney's Olympic Stadium and it shows - 110,000 seats for $655m all private money, so the job was done properly for a bargain basement price by comparison with the ridiculous sums being charged for the Gabba and the new Canberra Bubble Stadium. To prove consistency with pricing in NSW, the Sydney Football Stadium and Parramatta Stadium were both rebuilt for a combined cost of $1.2bn and across the two arenas there are 75,000 seats. What is the ACT and QLD getting that we here in NSW aren't?
The Gabba is owned by the QLD government. Canberra Stadium is owned by the Federal government….it is up to the QLD to allocate funding for the rebuild of the Gabba….Learn the difference……
Because AFL and cricket aren’t the major sports in QLD. Why would they build a $3b stadium for them?
@@joshy6820 Olympics.