Why do we keep allowing state and Federal governments to spend OUR money on Opera and Symphony Orchestras when they are only attended by a Very Small portion of the Tax Payers, Tennis as Well.
Good on them. I don’t buy there’s no way to save the tree. You’ve seen in Adelaide that with a bit of effort you can save trees and heritage and get great results.
Going to ruin the famous heritage waterfront. Yup it sure would be a big shame to replace an abandoned industrial site that adds so much to the ambiance.
The Goods Shed can simply just be relocated as it is portable in design, providing they can find a good spot for it. The rest of the arguments against it are either non-issues, and/or disingenuous and made in bad faith, especially regarding the concert hall and the cenotaph.
Here is an idea for a phd: 'The vibration effects of football matches, rock concerts of a closed roof stadium onto the strings of violins and harps and the brass of trumpets and trombones at a closed roof concert hall 175 metres up the road; a Hobart experiment'. 😂😂😂😂
Meanwhile in Canada, the Canadian Football League (playing a 12-man version of gridiron) would like a team in Halifax, Nova Scotia since the 1980's, but the lack of a decent stadium there makes it a dream still not come true. (You may call NS an "outcast" region just like TAS.)
This site could be better as well as this state has things that require the money so much more, this states healthcare for a start really needs support and funding
"V’landys said the bid may not proceed unless major changes are made" - dailytelegraph knowing V'landys, this is possibly another bargaining process regarding the bottom line.
@@kenoliver8913So we get to choose what our tax dollars are spent on do we? I'm not sure that's the way government works. We get to vote for whichever party we want to govern is but once elected they don't keep running back to each and every person who voted for them to see if that individual person wants their tax dollars spent on that particular project. Over the years I can think of many projects that both state and federal governments have embarked on. I don't remember being consulted each and every time whether I wanted my tax dollars paying for it. Government doesn't and couldn't run that way...... Nothing would ever get done. Well at least very little.
Lol. They are not real memberships, they were $10 sticker packs that turned in a operating loss for the club - already great financial planning lol. Conversion to real members is impossible because people signed up their dogs/cats/babies/fish etc. It's a poor indicator of support and a sad attempt to stiff arm the opposition.
The symphony orchestra complaining about 3 hours maybe 7 times a year hahah... What's next? Will the echo carry up the mounatins so we should ask people that live up there? Seriously Tasmanians grow a pair, no one wants to live there as it is so why wouldn't you take a stadium that is being paid for by the rest of us Aussies
Surely if this gets built there will be more than 7 games a year, plus there will be big bash and they will be pushing for tests, and they will be getting all the concerts they can now there is a venue. But I completely agree that the symphony orchestra arguing a monopoly on sound at all moments for short events scheduled months in advance is rich. (And plenty of people want to live in Tassie, mostly people are pushed out).
@@waziammm I think they'll have a contract to play a few games in Launceston too, big bash is what maybe 6 games? and a few concerts. Call it 20 events max a year, how often is that orchersta playing for it to affect them that bad!
This money should be spent on Tasmanians housing crisis not this Stadium for the Non for-Profit Tax-Exempt AFL. There are already 2 perfectly good stadiums in Tasmania.
@@Scott-nr9pl They will both be sold out. They are too small. Have a look at Newcastle they have pouplulaion that is less than half the size of Tasmania yet they have a 30,000 seat stadium. The AFL will then demand more taxpayers money to build another bigger stadium.
@@PjRjHj The AFL and NRL are both classifeid as non for profit this means they pay no tax. If this is not bad enough they expect the tax payer to pay for everything.
@@Nigelllllllllllllll The Stadium is just another delaying Tactic from the AFL. They love the current set up to much. They love the Taxpayer paying NTH and Hawthorn millions as it means the AFL does not need to.
Don't let a small number of campaigners who exploit every every sensitive topic in the community to get what they want before moving on to protest the next development like a common parasite speak for the majority of Tasmanians.
Just redevelop Bellerive to 40k and send North there. It’ll help get Test Matches. North can play 7 home games there and 4 at Docklands. Hawthorn can play 4 at Launceston. Tassie gets 11 home games. Job done.
Huh??? So you want scrap the Tassie Team??? Also Tasmania is freaking Cold and Windy man. No one will want to go play games in tassie unless it’s day. A roofed stadium is important
Yeah no worries cobba, let's dump a 40,000 seat stadium in suburbia with little public transport options and two main roads in and out that can't even manage 10,000 attendees. Ever wondered why Waverley Park in Melbourne's east was abandoned in favour of the docklands stadium in the CBD? And then suggest send a team that can't attract 40,000 in Melbourne to Tasmania to play in it? You can't make this stuff up 🤣🤣🤣
Get f@#$%d. Tasmanians are done with getting pitty junk Hawks and Roos "Home" matches. Those clubs both need to find new secondary "home grounds" elsewhere.
Tasmania never has and never will adopt an existing AFL club. End of story. It's not happenning for you. The Hawks and Roos were always nothing more than temporary substitutes while we waited for our own club. The Hawks will still have plenty of members left once their Tasmanian members jumpship, and crowd sizes for Roos "home" matches in Hobart are piddly enough as they are already so it's not like they're going to lose that much anyway. We get it. You don't want us in the comp. But you lost. Too bad. Please drop it and move on with life.
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lmfao, it's like an episode of Utopia - can't make this up.
Why do we keep allowing state and Federal governments to spend OUR money on Opera and Symphony Orchestras when they are only attended by a Very Small portion of the Tax Payers, Tennis as Well.
Maybe the TV networks and gambling companies which profit from AFL should be the ones who pay for the stadium.
We’ve been removing natives since we colonialised- this is an exotic tree so it seems hypocritical to think this one should be retained 🤷♂️
Good on them. I don’t buy there’s no way to save the tree. You’ve seen in Adelaide that with a bit of effort you can save trees and heritage and get great results.
True, also seen in Adelaide what happens when you trust developers to build a development around a tree and keep it alive.
Going to ruin the famous heritage waterfront. Yup it sure would be a big shame to replace an abandoned industrial site that adds so much to the ambiance.
It should be noted that the arborist who assessed that tree for the Launceston City Council is the husband of a Tasmanian Greens member of parliament.
And?
It wouldn't be a conflict of interests would it?@@carlbarron3087
Ok, now hold the Liberals to the standard you're implying. Get a bucket before you throw up.
They’re just trying anything to stop this from happening. Pathetic.
The Goods Shed can simply just be relocated as it is portable in design, providing they can find a good spot for it. The rest of the arguments against it are either non-issues, and/or disingenuous and made in bad faith, especially regarding the concert hall and the cenotaph.
Happy with the proposed upgrades to UTAS Stadium but building a new stadium in Hobart along with a HPC is absolutely ridiculous.
What is going on in Tasmania man 😂 Elm trees, War memorials, Symphony Orchestras. Give me a spell!
Oh c’mon. It’s either unique or it’s not. Binary. Yes or no. Never mind.
Thanks for the video.
Here is an idea for a phd: 'The vibration effects of football matches, rock concerts of a closed roof stadium onto the strings of violins and harps and the brass of trumpets and trombones at a closed roof concert hall 175 metres up the road; a Hobart experiment'. 😂😂😂😂
Elm trees aren’t native to Australia so no big deal imo. But the other reasons are pretty weak
Meanwhile in Canada, the Canadian Football League (playing a 12-man version of gridiron) would like a team in Halifax, Nova Scotia since the 1980's, but the lack of a decent stadium there makes it a dream still not come true. (You may call NS an "outcast" region just like TAS.)
Welcome to over regulated nanny state Australia
Lol Tasmania a nanny state well done, who the hell here listens pollys or cops here?
This site could be better as well as this state has things that require the money so much more, this states healthcare for a start really needs support and funding
It doesn't matter whereabouts they build it, no one in that city will show up, they never have and never will.
200,000 foundation members
Did you see the news about the Western Bears collapsing?
"V’landys said the bid may not proceed unless major changes are made" - dailytelegraph
knowing V'landys, this is possibly another bargaining process regarding the bottom line.
The Tasmanian Devils currently have over 200,000 members. Just a hint for those of you saying “they don’t want it “ 😼😼😼
for free memberships? Let's see how many they get when they have to pay for a full blown membership
@@kovaci0000007 not free but discounted. I think they started at like $10 or $20. Obviously when they full priced membership will drop a fair bit.
Then if 200,000 people want it those 200,000 people should pay for it - not my tax money.
@@kenoliver8913So we get to choose what our tax dollars are spent on do we?
I'm not sure that's the way government works. We get to vote for whichever party we want to govern is but once elected they don't keep running back to each and every person who voted for them to see if that individual person wants their tax dollars spent on that particular project.
Over the years I can think of many projects that both state and federal governments have embarked on.
I don't remember being consulted each and every time whether I wanted my tax dollars paying for it.
Government doesn't and couldn't run that way...... Nothing would ever get done. Well at least very little.
Lol. They are not real memberships, they were $10 sticker packs that turned in a operating loss for the club - already great financial planning lol. Conversion to real members is impossible because people signed up their dogs/cats/babies/fish etc. It's a poor indicator of support and a sad attempt to stiff arm the opposition.
Australia will never have an American style stadium
Why don’t you do a video on the Panthers dynasty?
No-one cares about Rugby League
@@kovaci0000007 spoken like a true AFL supporter flog. Why not respect both codes.
@@DisFan1996 You can't even sell out a grand final! What's to respect if NRL fans dont even care about it
@@kovaci0000007 Why are AFL fans so obsessed with crowd numbers?
@@winna121 it’s all they’ve got
Scale it back. Do you really need a glass roof, media pens?
Scale it back to the DEC
Yep sounds like the launie council
The symphony orchestra complaining about 3 hours maybe 7 times a year hahah... What's next? Will the echo carry up the mounatins so we should ask people that live up there? Seriously Tasmanians grow a pair, no one wants to live there as it is so why wouldn't you take a stadium that is being paid for by the rest of us Aussies
Surely if this gets built there will be more than 7 games a year, plus there will be big bash and they will be pushing for tests, and they will be getting all the concerts they can now there is a venue. But I completely agree that the symphony orchestra arguing a monopoly on sound at all moments for short events scheduled months in advance is rich. (And plenty of people want to live in Tassie, mostly people are pushed out).
@@waziammm I think they'll have a contract to play a few games in Launceston too, big bash is what maybe 6 games? and a few concerts. Call it 20 events max a year, how often is that orchersta playing for it to affect them that bad!
Should be built in Oatlands
Tree lovers versus footy lovers.
Holy click bait
23k feels small for a footy mad state and 40min flight from Melbourne
It will never get built and if it does it'll never be more than a quarter full
Please build more cricket stadium
Why we had one of the best grounds in the world at bellrive, the reason why we lost the cricket because not enough people where turning up
This money should be spent on Tasmanians housing crisis not this Stadium for the Non for-Profit Tax-Exempt AFL. There are already 2 perfectly good stadiums in Tasmania.
@@Scott-nr9pl They will both be sold out. They are too small. Have a look at Newcastle they have pouplulaion that is less than half the size of Tasmania yet they have a 30,000 seat stadium. The AFL will then demand more taxpayers money to build another bigger stadium.
@@Scott-nr9pl This wont bring anyone in. They want to build it in the city with no parking or public transport
The Taxpayer is being shafted. No other State has been forced to build a Roofed Stadium so why on Earth does Tasmania?
The AFL is fleecing Tasmania, just like the NRL is fleecing WA and all Australians with the PNG team
@@PjRjHj The AFL and NRL are both classifeid as non for profit this means they pay no tax. If this is not bad enough they expect the tax payer to pay for everything.
tasmania has about three days a year when an uncovered stadium could be used
@@Nigelllllllllllllll The Stadium is just another delaying Tactic from the AFL. They love the current set up to much. They love the Taxpayer paying NTH and Hawthorn millions as it means the AFL does not need to.
@@PjRjHj Yes and ALL AFL teams are fleecing the Taxpayer with women in sports grants.
I really hope this new franchise gets taken away from Tasmania. They don’t want it nor deserve it.
Don't let a small number of campaigners who exploit every every sensitive topic in the community to get what they want before moving on to protest the next development like a common parasite speak for the majority of Tasmanians.
@@M362j I am pro-cable car, pro-train, Mac-point 2.0... basically pro-everything except this abortion
Agreed, we don't want it. Only a small selfish percentage are attempting to push on with it.
Just redevelop Bellerive to 40k and send North there. It’ll help get Test Matches. North can play 7 home games there and 4 at Docklands. Hawthorn can play 4 at Launceston. Tassie gets 11 home games. Job done.
Bellerive isn't worth upgrading and horribly located, even Cricket Tas wants out. Tasmania wants it's own team, not a rented one.
Huh???
So you want scrap the Tassie Team???
Also Tasmania is freaking Cold and Windy man.
No one will want to go play games in tassie unless it’s day.
A roofed stadium is important
Yeah no worries cobba, let's dump a 40,000 seat stadium in suburbia with little public transport options and two main roads in and out that can't even manage 10,000 attendees. Ever wondered why Waverley Park in Melbourne's east was abandoned in favour of the docklands stadium in the CBD? And then suggest send a team that can't attract 40,000 in Melbourne to Tasmania to play in it? You can't make this stuff up 🤣🤣🤣
Get f@#$%d. Tasmanians are done with getting pitty junk Hawks and Roos "Home" matches. Those clubs both need to find new secondary "home grounds" elsewhere.
Tasmania never has and never will adopt an existing AFL club. End of story. It's not happenning for you. The Hawks and Roos were always nothing more than temporary substitutes while we waited for our own club. The Hawks will still have plenty of members left once their Tasmanian members jumpship, and crowd sizes for Roos "home" matches in Hobart are piddly enough as they are already so it's not like they're going to lose that much anyway.
We get it. You don't want us in the comp. But you lost. Too bad. Please drop it and move on with life.