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950se for the win

bought my 06 690 adventure for 3500 canadian. needed some work, bigger rear sprocket smaller front. barkbusters and skidplate. with over 75000 km on it. 28 liter fuel i believe. i ride it hard enduro with my buddies on their 250 2 strokes. toughest street bike bar none. it is a street bike with knobbies.

Planing to trade my gen 1 s1000xr for the v2s to do some touring on it. Does this bike have enough low and mid torque ?

I'm sure I'll ruffle a few Beemer feather by saying this; it's laughable that the K-bikes were to compete with the Hayabusa. The K-bikes were called flying bricks for a reason. And when the K-11 and K-12 came out; they were sport-tourers. Great bikes on their own, but certainly nowhere near the Hayabusa.

Sounds like what the fans want just a ktm 640 Adventure but with the cp2 engine in it. Couldn’t be that hard to make.

It's not all about tolerances but they are important, Many times the problem is being poorly engineered

I am happy to finally see HPN mentioned. I ride a HPN Rallyesport myself and love the bike. If you ever need any info about them or need help with translations from German to English, just hit me up!

Great story telling, really well put together, keep them coming, brilliant ❤

nice bike. it kills camshafts every 10k km tho.

The bike without two laughable, outdated tumors on the side won an offroad race... How surprising. Dumbest project ever by BMW. :D

What’s your favorite 125cc bike?

The 950 was such a monster, I got one as my daily rider when my back was hurt at work and couldn’t use my old sport bike anymore. I loved that bike so much, it was everything I ever wanted in a bike! Unfortunately I lost mine to a fire, and now I’m moving onto a more modern ADV bike. I’ll miss that bike forever, it was an icon and a half, and such a journey!

Because Europe,North America and California keep bringing out new ridiculous emissions standards

Excellent review, could almost do with 20hp if the bike was super reliable. Need more dual sport alternatives 😢 I guess theres the CRF300L

This bike has a lot of nostalgia for all of us either riding it or desiring it or both. Sold mine a few years ago after purchasing it, riding it across BC, getting it stuck somewhere near Squamish (had to get a towtruck to pull me out with a couple hundred feet of cable), riding it in single track where I shouldn't have, breaking my leg and ankle in foot deep mud doing stupid stuff, transporting and registering down in the US, futzing with the carbs, finally getting it put together and on the maiden tuned voyage promptly getting a speeding ticket. Just because. Finally sold mine to a local dude that took it to Yellowstone to rally. The smooth fueling is sublime, way better than any FI bike I've ridden. The fuel consumption is amazingly hungry, putting a safari tank on it turns it into a trailer, so you don't and just deal with short distance bursts of glory. The sound, god, that beautiful sound; earplugs are a travesty to this beast. Aerating massive amounts of dirt with the flick of a wrist, this moto could create wheat furrows to feed a small town. Good memories to me to be a small part of moto history.

"If I asked you to pay 200$ to not be [in a hospital bed], would you?" After being hospitalized from a severe car crash, I can tell you that I would've given a lot to not be in that situation. Luckily I only got some bones broken and I am almost back to where I was before but it was some hard years to get that back. Before I got back on my motorcycle I decided to get one of those airbag vests. The sales lady was genuinely surprised and said that it was the first unit they sold because everyone said that they are still too expensive (700€ at the time). I replied with: "If buying that guarantees that I never get into a situation where I need it, it is money I gladly spend." So far I didn't need it 👍 I love your content. Well researched and presented. I hope to see more in the future

Спасибо, из России. Думаю купить такой, как первый мотоцикл.

BMW has a strong marketing arm. Their bikes however.......think about it, how silly it is to take the boxer engine off the road? It is catastrophic 😢.

Great stuff, as usual!

I've had both bikes, each for about a year. The HP2E is not even comparable in my opinion. 2 different bikes built for 2 different things. The HP2E worked best on fast soft ground. Sand, or something approximating sand (what we call sand is actually mostly bauxite or similar in a lot of cases). The 950 worked best on fast twin track and twisting dirt roads. The HP2E air shock was brilliant. I got hold of a brand new one and replaced the 80,000kms old one. I couldn't understand why in the world you'd want a conventional shock, right up until I hit my first square edge. Damn...that actually really really hurt. On the HP2E I could hold off a equally competent friend on his 1190 ADV R, at around 140ish KPH on dirt. But he wasn't that far behind. To give some clarity, on my VFR1200X, both of us with electronics turned off (I pulled the ABS pump fuse) and running the same brand and type of tyres (in slightly different sizes) I was pulling 140kph power slides and vanished into the distance. He said he couldn't even see my dust after about 5 mins. On the 950, I was doing the same at 160 or more. I felt much more comfortable on the 950. A couple of points of order...I weighed the HP2E. It had the Touratech tank, and a little rear rack. It was 225kg with fuel. So...even if I removed the tank completely, it still weighed just on 200kg. So the weight numbers I call bullshit on. The KTM was similar, with the standard tanks it was in the mid 220kg mark full of fuel. It didn't have crashbars or pannier racks. With the Safari twin tanks that hold 40 ish litres, it was pretty heavy. Felt much worse than my F800GS, which had an auxiliary Touratech tank (20 litres, which gave me about 36 total - or 950km range...which is just silly). The F800 with extra fuel and a full fuel load with tank bag holding the toolkit etc was 255kg. The HP2E felt far more top heavy than my Honda VFR. The VFR weighs in at 265kg. The HP2E engine centre line was about camshaft height on the VFR. Horsepower wise, the "seat of my pants dyno" on bush tracks says the KTM wins hands down. I honestly thought the BMW was about 95hp tops. I figured the KTM was about 100 even. My Honda makes 112 at the rear wheel. My old F800 made 85. I base my "seat of the pants dyno" results on acceleration against known quantities. The BMW forks, while WP, are cheap 43mm from memory, versus like 49mm on the KTM. They were no where near the same when I stripped them. Different animals. I did several days of riding against 1190 Adv R, just playing. If the terrain is open and flowing, the BMW is my pick. If it's forest and gnarly, I would go the KTM every time. The missing counter shaft in the BMW doesn't so much introduce vibration as it does torque steer. Having grown up with torque steer, and then lived without it for a long while, it took me about 800m and 2 roundabouts to get back in the groove. On and off the throttle to flick through tight roundabouts. Off, On, Off, driving on the left. You don't actually steer at all, just throttle inputs. It counter steers really well. But I have a couple of bikes with desert racer rake and trail. So I'm kind of used to it. Not at all like, say, the F800 which used to push the front wheel everywhere on me. The HP2E was built to win desert races. It does that one thing really well. Anywhere else it was a bit "Meh". The KTM was a hooligan bike. I mean...if I rode it for 8 hours I worked on it for 16...but it flew like shit off a shovel.

I will keep my xr650R. It rips! Very cool vid. You have a cool style.

TLDR it was an over engineered, impossible to work on POS just like every vehicle with a BMW logo on it

Brilliant video presentation of an insane era of off-road motorcycles...just like the era of Group C rally cars; built for the most fearless and extremely talented among us to put on a show of brilliant engineering without corporate handbrakes. Bravo! i have subscribed to watch more of your excellent presentations.

Great video, I generally don't comment but just wanted to say well done and it kept my attention till the end.

As a long time HP2 rider, I really enjoyed this video - thanks for taking the time! And yep, totally agree - we the riders won!

Eeeeepic video man! 🎉🎉 keep it up!!

Epic dude! Thanks a lot!

EXCELLENT Video my friend. You're a natural! Keep it up!

thank you for the beautiful Lil tribute to Paulo. I still cry. rip hero

GREAT!!!! thanks

Please keep it up man, you’re doing great!! The subs will come, this amount you have appreciate you more than you know!! You’re awesome

Great video!! I've wanted an hp2 since the first pictures came out. Beautiful bikes.

Great video as always! Love watching your channel and content! Keep going! 👍🏻 Maybe you could do a video about the History of the Six Days Enduro in the future?

i dont understand where you are saying all this hype came from i never saw any ?? i & anyone even casually paying attn knew it was a ktm890 with a few changes from the jump , fix the standard models disappointing suspension or buy the Expedition model and go put some miles and smiles on it ??!! ive been financially irresponsible enough to have had a few well farkled and well set up adventure bikes but this 901 blows them all away by every measure hands down , after the suspension was fixed and the rest of my normal mods its magic

What a fantastic video! As a 950SE owner/rider/racer, it is without a doubt the most insane and least practical bike I own. It's also the bike I'll never, ever sell because it's just so outrageous. More efficiently than any bike I've ever owned, it converts octane to horsepower, noise, erections lasting over 4 hours, and ear-to-ear grins. I'll die with that bike....and probably because of that bike. Also, I could never get it down to below 420lbs/190.9kg in race trim with a SSO exhaust, lithium battery, passenger pegs removed, airbox ripped out, headlight off, etc. I guess if I wanted to spend a fortune on titanium, I could shave another few lbs, but there isn't much more to remove at that point. In the end, you nailed it. The mad science project, engineers-gone-wild aspect is the coolest part of the story.

the kiss principle is cringe.

I miss my SE big time, big mistake selling it.

I love your videos with the historical insights into the offroad motorcycle industry. Always great storytelling and sublime humour. Thanks a lot and keep going! See you at Dynaric!

The Super Enduro video with Chris Birch riding through the Australian bush was previously owned by me. I had that bike for 3 years and regret selling it. My mate has a HP2 which I have ridden quite hard. They are both very desirable but also very different bikes to ride. My take is the HP2 is definitely more exotic but when push comes to shove the 950SE is a superior ride. It just feels like a bloated 500EXC, where to feel comfortable at speed on the HP2 required much more familiarity with the bike. The HP2 required serious suspension upgrades at both ends to compete with the relatively standard 950SE. I would also take the KTM on the reliability side. My mates HP2 has left him stranded numerous times. I would like to own both though.

i have owned 2 of each - very different - SE is scary, HP2 more mellow, needs differing suspension,

The Ministry of Truth in China is hiring a lot of native English speakers to push products on RUclips and TikTok, both of which are banned in China, btw.

I’ve got a 2003 Suzuki drz400 same as a 2023 one lol.

I’d straight swap my 1200gs for a HP2 in a heartbeat. lol 😂

I love this channel!! I've owned both 2 times each. I still have my second HP2 and will never sell this one. I will have another 950SE one of these days. The HP2 is like riding a crazy sofa. The 950SE is just crazy electric chair. Both have tons of character and are not for the faint of heart.

Why not a video about Moto Morini and how they won the Iron Road prologue on a standard Scrambler 1200 back in 2009.👌

Great video of two bikes that i really admire.

I currently own an HP2 in Taiwan. It is really a great car. However, in the time and space of 2006, you had to own an R1200GS to buy HP2. Therefore, there are only 4 units left in Taiwan.

KTM won the war, but as an owner of several LC8 bikes and a 690 Enduro R, I’d love to find a good HP2 Enduro

The subjects this channel covers are literally everything I'm always thinking and talking about 😄 What a treasure, finally someone covering this niche. Keep it up man, staying for the ride!!!

I'm really really hoping the 2025 BMW R12gs will be a spiritual successor to the HP2. Unlike the rninet gs, which is a piece of cafe aesthetic garbage.