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Counterargument, Skitarii Rangers - battleline, 2 OC, scout 6, sticky, 4+ save, Assault on all weapons.

For Kriegers, I think it's possible that RAI was to give them 8, but the RAW is definitely 4. Idk why they would feel the need to make a distinction between the two groups of special weapons if they're both adding up to a max of 4 (+2 Vox) across all 20, except if they want to prevent you from taking both Plasma + Melta, which is kinda the obviously superior choice of weapons if you only get 4

If you care about height you need to go outside Ngl. Those proxy’s are fine.

Oooo that’s my question!!

Proxies are always cooler

The moment they gave them scout, everything changed.

Grenades can be thrown after an advance?

Lord Marshal Washer Dryer

I think to be fair, you would have to allow your opponent, an additional half inch of imaginary visibility on either side, where the sponson should be when they are trying to acquire a line of sight. Your safest bet would be to bring sponsons for both sides to determine visibility if it was close one way or the other.

I remember when it used to be only one SWEP

Good vid

4 or 8….. so itll be 6

I use my leman russes with internal sponsons and the turret rotate so they are good to go by tourney standards. But I see what your going f

Here here!

Big disagree, just like all overhanging bits you can go through it as long as you don’t stop on it. GE clarified this with a demons wings example

Can you list the Link to the discord?

If your chosing if you can either hit a vehicle or shoot with the vehicle based off of antennas. Your have a problem

so, mechanised but ratlings jumping on and off...

The coordinated action is pretty obviously not double the same order. L take

going back to the stuff on your own guys- I have GSC army which is scions. genestealers are just necomunda spyrers

Dreer not drier is my guess. It’s spelt Dreir not Drier

its drier like how germans pronounce 3!

I am happy that I can use my medusas as artillery teams with siege gun. Just have to put em on gigant round bases

These are really helpful. Thank you

as an imperial fist player this title is blasphemy

The Earthshaker Carriage Battery has the infantry keyword (use it before it goes to legends)

We need points costs back for weapons and wargear. 9th and 10th have me truly hating it here

TLDR: Totally agree with your philosophy, but you've stacked the deck in favour of plasmas. Nothing competes with King Multi-melta. ______________ I prefer plasmas over heavy bolters, *most* of the time. But your methodology for claiming the plasma cannon is "always" better than the heavy bolter is deeply flawed: 1) Your stats assume the target is in cover, right? E.g. at @15:05 heavy bolters are doing 2.3 wound rolls to a Rhino but only inflicting 0.8 unsaved wounds. That can only be explained by something (e.g. cover / AOC) negating the -1 Ap on the heavy bolter. To be clear, that's not a bad assumption and will apply *some* of the time, but it prejudices the results in favour of the plasma, as it loses a smaller % of its damage to the effects of cover. 2) You also maintain the effect of cover even when talking about shooting into combat with yourself, which is objectively wrong, and you should be switching off cover at that point. 3) Your stats all assume BS 3+. That's right for tank commanders, and maybe +1 tank from grand strategist, but there's plenty of Leman Russ with BS 4+ (e.g. due to quantity of Russ, effects of enemy stealth, combat damage, etc.). Better accuracy prejudices the results in favour of plasma, because the heavy bolter derives a disproportionately high amount of damage from 6's to hit (and so cares a lot less about ballistic skill). God forbid you're at BS 5+, where the plasmas become trash and the heavy bolters keep chugging along, propped up by sustained hits. 4) Your stats also assume the plasma is always supercharging, but you don't mention the chance of hazardous self-damage. C'mon mate. That's a bit mischievous, no? There are plenty of situations where doing ~1 extra damage because you've got plasma really isn't worth the *two* chances of inflicting 3 damage to your own tank. There are targets where, statistically speaking, you do more damage to yourself than you do to the enemy by "upgrading" from bolters to supercharged plasma. 5) It's not even hard to find situations where the heavy bolters are just objectively better. Against a T9, 3+ save vehicle (a common profile) outside of cover, heavy bolters do more damage than supercharged plasma, at either BS 3 or 4. Overall - Plasma *usually* better than the heavy bolter, while also carring hazardous risks that frequently outweigh the extra damage they provide. Plasma great against hordes. Heavy bolter good against light vehicles. Both terrible into heavy tanks. All new players should be recommended to take multi-meltas. Also I know this all sounds super-critical, but you make good content! Please take it in the spirit of fellow-geek-who-likes-maths.

I always tried to use HB because of the range in my chimeras. Guess I'll start using HF!

I'm not sure who says that heavy bolters are most efficient at killing light infantry-- that's absurd. They're 2 damage weapons. Half of their damage output is wasted. Unfortunately they're not very good unless you manage to increase their AP against things like marines or light vehicles, though.

Thank you for over explaining some very obvious math

What a chad! :o

I think its space marine players running psy-ops in Guard forums. How else could you explain someone suggesting Heavy Bolters?

The problem with plasma is that I take six mortals wounds to do 2 plasma shots everytime.

Could you explain why the mortar for the HWT is such a superior pick?

do you think we're going to get an update video after the codex in this style?

I've had great luck with flamers, they're great for keeping my tanks from getting bogged down by chaff units.

Fighting ignorance with math is your superpower 😂. Unrelated question: several videos back you went over the GW maps and the firing lines you added with Paint. Are those layouts anywhere to be found out in the interwebs? You showed 2 of the layouts but I’d love to be able to check them all out 🙏🏻

Do i play 40k? No. Did i stay because i enjoy number crunching and math? Absolutely.

Okay but what about the death watch heavy bolters on the indomitor kill team that are: 3 attacks, WS - 3, strength 5, ap -2 and damage 3, with both lethal, sustained 1, heavy and assault? Those heavy bolters kinda rock

This is why I dislike the loss of points for equipment. There’s a lot of equipment that had a purpose when they’re cheap but are pointless now. I really liked 7th and 8th and 9th was ok. Not a fan of 10th. (My favorite edition was 4th my second least favorite was 6th). Interesting video though. I enjoy the math so I subscribed despite my grognard whining

If they were 6 shots each at s5 ap 1 dam 1 with sustained 2 I think they be interesting as suppression weapons which are kinda what they are.

I feel like there's got to be some value in a gun that can fire from turn 1 all game long, as long as the tank lives. The multimeltas are a clear winner if optimising vehicles against tanks, and that's what the Born Soldiers is pushing you towards. Flamers are better if you are charged, plasma is better if you are left to your devices and want to kill infantry. I have to say, the fact that you can take 3 bolters and roll 9 dice all game (with rerolls and exploding dice) is very appealing