Just wanted to comment how much I appreciate your content. It’s nice to have structured content, that’s well edited. It makes it easy to listen and follow. The timestamps help too. ❤
I am so thankful to have a comp focused guard youtuber. Steele is great but more casual focused. Mordian is a variety youtuber in my opinion. Glad I found you.
This is exactly how I play. Sure, there's a conversation where I _pretend_ to care about opponents big stuff - "Where's that thing? Oh, worried about that" except I'm not, at all. I have a plan for each game mode, and I'm on it.
This is nice. I'm playing in a local escalation league, which has been helpful to learn about the Guard just by playing more games. Your advice about screening out the backfield using the command block is something I would never have thought of, I had just been clustering everything on my home objective. Especially since I have a good amount of artillery, I can definitely do a better job of screening the backfield. Then terrain layouts and firing lanes is another big one for me to focus on - I should focus more on positioning and less on shooting on the first turn.
Glad you found something really concrete in here! In general, if I'm going first I assume that the only things I get to shoot are the things my opponent is ok with me shooting. Sometimes they're wrong and you're ok shooting it anyway but oftentimes it just leads to us being overextended and dying on the clapback
Haven't seen the full video yet but am very grateful someone's gone ahead and done this. We should never have precise plans on what to do, as we can never predict our opponents and their own plans, but it's extremely important to have a core general plan of action.
Joushi I was thinking to myself, as a beginner I need a general/basic training video where I get tips on placing troops and planning the game. Then I opened your video history and found this new video exactly matching my needs! Thank you so much and keep on that good work! If I can, I will support this channel back as soon as possible. Tbh this current meta with 3x6 bullgryns kind of not matches my picture of the guards. But this is hopefully temporary until the next points update.
Glad that this video was helpful! Just watching and subscribing is supporting, don't feel pressured to do anything beyond that! I totally understand that, we'll see what happens when the codex releases in 2025!
@@Joushi40k for me as a beginner exist more need for that kind of Basic explanation videos. For example my deepstrike troops come in 2nd round and barely have an effect. Maybe you can bring this chapter in future videos with basic ideas on where to deepstrike to achieve what goal. Since my scions are kind of glass cannons, I keep them at the side. Also rapid ingress is interesting to me but I have no strategies about it. Thank you very much for the videos
Thanks for the video, went to my first 2k event and learned the hard way some of the fundamentals you go over in this video. I want to make lists that do good and not just copy what has been proven to work. These videos are a big help.
That's awesome! Glad you ventured into the competitive side! It's so much fun and the people I've found in the tournament scene are generally super helpful
Really enjoyed this one! I often exceed time limits because I have to make to many decisions on the spot. This helps by providing decisions made before the game. Just like you said in the outro. I know generally how trading works but struggle to memorize what the enemies units are capable of. This leads to decision paralysis and I´m wasting a lot of time on the clock. I´d like to hear your opinion on trading and acting in situations with uncertainties (e.g. when fighting vs. unknown armies or units). Thanks alot for the great content Joushi!
Glad this was helpful! The game becomes so much easier when you have information to work with. If you have the patience for it, I'd really recommend taking a look through some top level lists (like Dark Angels Gladius) and just going and reading all of their datasheets. I guarantee you're going to miss some interactions on your first read-through, but even just knowing "ok these things have anti-vehicle 4+ in their melee" will help you understand their threat way better than if you just have to hear it for the first time at the table Having a default game plan is really helpful in a lot of these situations, because even if you don't know SPECIFICALLY what an enemy unit does, you can generally get the gist of it just by looking at them, so understanding something like Bullgryn in front, tanks at least 4" back so they don't get consolidated into, can help a lot in these situations Sometimes your plan will be wrong because there's something you didn't know, but I would say don't feel too bad in these spots, because you did the best you could with the information you had available
Any chance that you have screenshots of a similar gameplan on the other GW layouts and deployments? Thanks! To be clear, I'm working on doing this exercise myself, but I'd like to compare my plan vs yours.
Great explanation. Can I clarify - you aim to be in control of the home objective + your natural at the start of turn 2 and score 2 primary? Is this because as you say you will likely just be shot/charged off middle anyway and likely hardly get onto/ will get beaten back from their natural? I’m playing on uktc terrain and can see a lot of differences. The natural on that terrain usually has a very favourable piece of covering terrain (line of sight blocking with a little space behind cover for small high oc units to shelter) but smaller pieces in the middle either side of the middle objectives. There is also no gaps such as the one near the leman Russ. I’ve found it harder to get 4+ vehicles into good positions at times.
In general yeah, but those are guidelines not rules of course. If you'd score points by being on one of those objectives, or force your opponent to commit pieces they don't want to in order to kill you, it can be worth it Against shooting armies it sounds like you'll usually want to put something on the middle objective then, maybe bullgryn against melee armies on UKTC. Unfortunately I don't have any specific advice on movement on those maps because I don't have any familiarity with them
Am I the only one who wants to see the firing lanes and staging point distances for the rest of the mission pack? I know I COULD make them... I just don't wanna
Another great tactics video!
Just wanted to comment how much I appreciate your content. It’s nice to have structured content, that’s well edited. It makes it easy to listen and follow. The timestamps help too. ❤
seconded
Is editing an AUTO INCLUDE?
Is having a concise video structure BROKEN?!
Ahem.
(Channel is great, well done.)
I am so thankful to have a comp focused guard youtuber. Steele is great but more casual focused. Mordian is a variety youtuber in my opinion. Glad I found you.
This is exactly how I play.
Sure, there's a conversation where I _pretend_ to care about opponents big stuff - "Where's that thing? Oh, worried about that" except I'm not, at all. I have a plan for each game mode, and I'm on it.
Hahaha high praise, gotta get in their head from the beginning
This is nice. I'm playing in a local escalation league, which has been helpful to learn about the Guard just by playing more games. Your advice about screening out the backfield using the command block is something I would never have thought of, I had just been clustering everything on my home objective. Especially since I have a good amount of artillery, I can definitely do a better job of screening the backfield. Then terrain layouts and firing lanes is another big one for me to focus on - I should focus more on positioning and less on shooting on the first turn.
Glad you found something really concrete in here!
In general, if I'm going first I assume that the only things I get to shoot are the things my opponent is ok with me shooting. Sometimes they're wrong and you're ok shooting it anyway but oftentimes it just leads to us being overextended and dying on the clapback
@@Joushi40k that last sentence describes my last game against Necrons pretty accurately haha. Thanks!
Haven't seen the full video yet but am very grateful someone's gone ahead and done this. We should never have precise plans on what to do, as we can never predict our opponents and their own plans, but it's extremely important to have a core general plan of action.
Yeah it's so much more important to have a plan than to follow it, even if it's just to get back on track
I loved this one. I always enjoy strategy discussion. I can watch a lot more content similar to this :D
Joushi I was thinking to myself, as a beginner I need a general/basic training video where I get tips on placing troops and planning the game.
Then I opened your video history and found this new video exactly matching my needs!
Thank you so much and keep on that good work!
If I can, I will support this channel back as soon as possible.
Tbh this current meta with 3x6 bullgryns kind of not matches my picture of the guards. But this is hopefully temporary until the next points update.
Glad that this video was helpful! Just watching and subscribing is supporting, don't feel pressured to do anything beyond that!
I totally understand that, we'll see what happens when the codex releases in 2025!
@@Joushi40k for me as a beginner exist more need for that kind of Basic explanation videos.
For example my deepstrike troops come in 2nd round and barely have an effect.
Maybe you can bring this chapter in future videos with basic ideas on where to deepstrike to achieve what goal.
Since my scions are kind of glass cannons, I keep them at the side.
Also rapid ingress is interesting to me but I have no strategies about it.
Thank you very much for the videos
I prefer this style of video
Awesome! Compared to which?
@@Joushi40k the interviews with the "professionals"
@@Joushi40k the troop and vehicle videos are great , but how to use the varies styles Guard plays even better
Thanks for the video, went to my first 2k event and learned the hard way some of the fundamentals you go over in this video. I want to make lists that do good and not just copy what has been proven to work. These videos are a big help.
That's awesome! Glad you ventured into the competitive side! It's so much fun and the people I've found in the tournament scene are generally super helpful
Really enjoyed this one! I often exceed time limits because I have to make to many decisions on the spot. This helps by providing decisions made before the game. Just like you said in the outro.
I know generally how trading works but struggle to memorize what the enemies units are capable of. This leads to decision paralysis and I´m wasting a lot of time on the clock.
I´d like to hear your opinion on trading and acting in situations with uncertainties (e.g. when fighting vs. unknown armies or units).
Thanks alot for the great content Joushi!
Glad this was helpful! The game becomes so much easier when you have information to work with. If you have the patience for it, I'd really recommend taking a look through some top level lists (like Dark Angels Gladius) and just going and reading all of their datasheets. I guarantee you're going to miss some interactions on your first read-through, but even just knowing "ok these things have anti-vehicle 4+ in their melee" will help you understand their threat way better than if you just have to hear it for the first time at the table
Having a default game plan is really helpful in a lot of these situations, because even if you don't know SPECIFICALLY what an enemy unit does, you can generally get the gist of it just by looking at them, so understanding something like Bullgryn in front, tanks at least 4" back so they don't get consolidated into, can help a lot in these situations
Sometimes your plan will be wrong because there's something you didn't know, but I would say don't feel too bad in these spots, because you did the best you could with the information you had available
Any chance that you have screenshots of a similar gameplan on the other GW layouts and deployments? Thanks!
To be clear, I'm working on doing this exercise myself, but I'd like to compare my plan vs yours.
I don't have anything saved, I've normally done it by myself but I might put something together for my next GT?
Great explanation. Can I clarify - you aim to be in control of the home objective + your natural at the start of turn 2 and score 2 primary? Is this because as you say you will likely just be shot/charged off middle anyway and likely hardly get onto/ will get beaten back from their natural?
I’m playing on uktc terrain and can see a lot of differences. The natural on that terrain usually has a very favourable piece of covering terrain (line of sight blocking with a little space behind cover for small high oc units to shelter) but smaller pieces in the middle either side of the middle objectives. There is also no gaps such as the one near the leman Russ. I’ve found it harder to get 4+ vehicles into good positions at times.
In general yeah, but those are guidelines not rules of course. If you'd score points by being on one of those objectives, or force your opponent to commit pieces they don't want to in order to kill you, it can be worth it
Against shooting armies it sounds like you'll usually want to put something on the middle objective then, maybe bullgryn against melee armies on UKTC. Unfortunately I don't have any specific advice on movement on those maps because I don't have any familiarity with them
let you tell me about this thing called blue horrors
Am I the only one who wants to see the firing lanes and staging point distances for the rest of the mission pack?
I know I COULD make them... I just don't wanna
Real
Love the video, but the constant kofi jumpascares with no resolution for us poors is annoying.
Do you not have access to it without paying? I don't think I have anything up on there that costs money