Combat Patrol Tier List of Questionable Quality
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Combat Patrol
0:00 - Intro
1:05 - Manta Sleep Sponsorship
2:39 - Tiers
29:33 - Conclusion
30:06 - Do it
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Yes your videos, and a combo of heywoah’s, and chaos painting tutorials is what I fall asleep to.
I watch your videos when I eat
Sorry as a necron player I must say this. The scarabs are in fact great cause you can self destruct them, have tons of wounds, and are pretty fast.
The scarabs are pretty good…when they die because you can explode them and deal mortal wounds to a big model and deal some fat damage besides that yeah they pretty shit
Low effort tier list RUclips slop? YOOOOOOO! That's also what we made this week too!
One flaw in the episode. We do not make good stuff nor do we know what we're talking about.
Replying to boost this! The people need to see Pancreas defend his love for Elves on the podcast!
I dream of the day impulsors are as free as rhinos
I agree after seeing you guys discuss guard content.
I love seeing my all my parasocial friends being friends
*Hits Blunt*
"But what about, and here me out on this one, Tzaangors on Jetbikes?"
now hold on, you might just be onto something here...
Mace Windu: "He's too dangerous to be left alive!"
Just make Tzaangors their own faction
World Eaters: chaff, basic troop, leader
Deathguard: chaff, basic troop, leader
Thousand Sons: YOU'RE PLAYING BIRD UP, THE WORST COMBAT PATROL IN 40K!
The next thousands sons box will be 30 tzangors and cost $160
@@rickypachucho4313 No, no, no. Bigger. They'll expand on the flesh change somehow so that we have tzangor adjacent creatures. That way they can make a holiday box that is like 80 tzangor and a handful of the new units.
Don't oversell DG by comparing it to WE. The DG combat patrol is the purest-strain dogshit that has ever been found. It's honestly probably worse than the TS combat patrol
@@josephdavis4682 The DG patrol had at least some purpose in 9th. If you had no DG and for some reason really wanted to play specifically the Typhus detachment, it got you your leader, tar pit, and some basic dudes as an ok starting point. As far as combat patrol goes, yeah it's definitely one that released way before GW had any idea what they wanted combat patrol to be. Hell, I'm still not sure they know what they want the format to be other than a way to sell models people don't really want.
@@Crimson_Fist it DESPARATELY needs an update. Nobody needs that many poxwalkers, or a Biologus Putrefier
Fun fact about the ork box:
You can’t run the leader with any of the units that come in the box. You could attach a regular warboss to boyz, but a warboss in mega armor only leads meganobz. So you get a straight up useless leader for $160.
Problem with this tier list. It’s in the middle of an edition. By the end of the edition they will all be replaced. So this is the 9th edition box where characters couldn’t join units.
Also if I remember correctly, you can't attach the Gravis Captain to anything in the Dark Angels box, might be wrong tho.
The redone Dark Angels Combat Patrol is the same, as is the new Tau Combat Patrol on the way.
At least Tau get away with it because solo Commanders are good...
Tbh tho both the gravis captain and the mega armor warboss is dummy thick.
@@Tortle-Manyou fool! Pancreas has planned this so he can remake this video in a year
If you disagree with this tier list consider that I have never known what I'm talking about so why make an issue out of it now?
why are you white
Counterpoint, you are faking your lack of knowledge as part of a grand scheme for Tzeentch that is so complex it alludes mortal comprehension. The inquisition knows your crimes...
True but people like me rely on you to break down which army is best without taking out a second Morgage
Because your opinion is wrong and mine is right, haven’t you learned that by now? I’m the warhammer community!
The deletion of my comment confirms my suspicions..
The Canoptek Scarabs are actually only available in a Necron warrior box or in the combat patrol. They're usually not even that disliked, if disliked at all, they pair well with a Canoptek Spyder imo
How can you dislike the little guys? They're the perfect action monkeys and speed bumps at 12 wounds for 40 points. the enemy is always losing value shooting at them, and theyre annoying if you ignore them.
@@laszlobalazscsaszar2178Also amazing to deny the deepstrikes. Its our version of nuglings, and they regen.
They helped me land a girl lmao
I'm curious how taht happened
I'm not even half way through the video and I've accepted that this guy knows nothing about Warhammer lmfao
How I miss start collecting and before.
Combat patrol: a mismatch of: “pointsflation”, reduced discount percentage, increased cost.
The saddest part is that if they kept Start Collecting boxes running alongside Combat Patrol boxes, it would be such a good gateway into the hobby. Buy this box set to wet your beak, then buy this slightly bigger, slightly pricier box set to complement it, and from there you have the core of your army set and can buy whatever you want. Its much harder to convince a friend to drop the cash for a Combat Patrol box set by comparison.
Start Collecting used to be a good supplement army box you could buy multiples of, and still have a proper filled out army for $100 at a time. These new boxes just feel like overpriced junk, shoved in a box because it was not selling, or its from a box set that there too lazy to make into individual kits like Shadow Spear.
@@horriblypink the space marines one also just show me how bloated and bland the range is now.
Endless hordes of similar marines, fewer and fewer unique aspects of the chapters
@@horriblypink 80-100 bucks for models that all (mostly) have a use in an army were an amazing idea. That GW then progressively shot themselves in the foot isn't that surprising.
@@horriblypinkthe new space marine and Tyranid ones are a great example of “wow, I can buy this for 30$ online” because fuck us for wanting a combat patrol with full kits, and not just the easy builds. It’s also more expensive than just buying half of leviathan
Oh man, the amount of GW employees i've spoken to who have all said the exact same thing about the TS Combat patrol...
If i had a nickel
"No one likes Tzaangors, but someone in head office definitely does"
Combat Patrol: Tzaangors is my favourite Tzaangor box. It's great start to a Tzaangor army.
dude there's some marines in your tzaangor box
The reason for the scarabs is because it's connected to the warrior sprue. Also, the ability to blow themselves up to inflict mortals is quite fun and they are a decent cheap and tanky screening unit
I'am happy getting them with warrior kit. When you have enough of them for army. They are great to use as basing material and/or on climbing on larger bodies of vehicles, canopteks etc.
Remember kids, Tzaangors are free.
So are rhinos and impulsors.
Time to build a 1kS army that's all tzangors riding in rhinos. If that's not legal, Tzeentch will change the rules to make it legal.
@@kacpersulik4219at least impulsors can be converted into gladiators
The GW employees don’t want you to know this but the Tzaangors at the shops and boxes are free, you can take them home, I have 458 Tzaangors.
Make an entire unite of Typhusi for your army, then fill the rest with zombies. The true death guard experience.
call that army the men of mission row
The issues with the Guard and Admech Conbat Patrols are that there arent enough units in them. We need more
This is a problem with GWs insane pricing. 10 space marines for the same price as 10 guardsman. The combat patrols are “correctly” priced to keep the kits all at the same “value” but guard and GSC and Admech are just armies who are so grandly overcosted that their sets are never a value
@@milktenders6219A guard starter box should always include 20 infantry, 1 russ, 3 heavy weapons teams and a command squad
@@DMKA94 100% second this. The box should cover your bases, for guard thats a scary unit, some screening units and some holding units. From that core army you can then develop it into whatever style you want. I wish i had started in the days when they had boxes like the armored fist box. a guard squad and a chimera, literally a perfect box to add an entire capability to your army.
You know what I want in my Thousand Sons army? THOUSAND SONS! You know what I don't want in my Thousand Sons army? BEASTMEN!
Where the hell are the Rubric Marines, GW?!
the excuse here is that there ARE only 1000 sons of Magnus. And this is significant part of them
Not gonna lie, this comment has the exact same energy as "Where's my god damn electric car, Bruce?!"
I was gonna say this :D
Here is the thing tzaangor are pretty neat
@@theholyemu3716
no
You shouldn't just compare that space marine combat patrol against the Leviathan box. That isn't for sale anymore. Compare it against the new 40k starter set and ultimate starter sets. You can buy the 40k starter set and a separate librarian in terminator armour for less than the Space marine combat patrol! You would have the same amount of Space Marines but also you get a pile of free Tyranids with that as well!
If you go with the Ultimate you get both the patrols, rules, plus board & terrain.
Probably why that space marine combat patrol is online only.
Worst part of this combat patrol is, that all the minis inside are monopose, so they are good for a cheap starter set but should never priced full like in this box
Same for the Tyranids. You can get the box and some Barbgaunts for cheaper than the 'Nids Combat Patrol (Buy a Librarian and you're looking at about a 50p difference)
Nothing convinced me more that combat patrols are used to clear out excess stock than the new Dark Angels box having a captain in gravis armor included.
There’s the obvious issue of him literally not being able to lead any unit in the box.
But there’s the other take of, DA don’t really use a captain in gravis armor. I know the SM chapter boxes are meant to be more of a “Space Marine combat patrol but different units” except Black Templars who get their unique units for some reason. Get fucked Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Space Wolves I guess.
It just screams “we have too many captain’s in gravis armor in the warehouse. Quick, throw them in the DA box”
Thing is though, you can get the Dark Angels box and Blood Angels box together and have a solid starting force for Space marines.
@@Kingofdragons117 ^This is the only reason why the DA CP kind of works. If it's combined with a different CP. Although it means you're getting at least one set of chaptered upgrade sprues you can't use.
Inner circle companions for guarding hq as a special guard unit lately launched for dark angels? No, get blade guards. Oh ok
Oh, don't forget that the Space Wolves have a unique unit! They have the Hounds of Morkai, which are totally not just some rievers dressed up with a funny name haha trust me bro they're definitely special and unique and not just regular units with a new name.
I mean, the store page literally says: "Hounds of Morkai are a deadly and highly manoeuvrable unit of Reivers", so I don't know what else we were supposed to expect, lol@@jamesashcroft8170
I feel so sorry for Tzaangor.
In every GW game they are just SOOOOOOO bad.
Yet they end up in every vaguely Tzeentch box.
They so DESPERATELY want you to buy them, but... like... no...
It’s beautiful the best birds in every box as tzeentch intended
baffles me as to why they just, dont make them good?
like YOU MAKE THE RULES MAKE THEM GOOD DAMN YOU
Thousand Sons:
-5 Scarab Occult Terminators...which are great
-10 Tzaangor...which aren't great
-1 Infernal Master, which is great...except that it can't join either the Scarab Occult Terminators OR the Tzaangor.
Genius move, GW
Well to be fair, in Combat Patrol games, any such leaders are usually given enhancements to give them more power and survivability (such as the Gravis Captain in the new DA box), so they are designed to be played as solo units (and you can keep them near others anyway). Afterwards, you are likely to buy something they can join up with, so I do not see it as a massive problem in the long run.
@@chromasus9983 Totally fair. I guess as someone who doesn't play combat patrol I had no idea how internally balanced it was in that context. Note to self, play more combat patrol.
I will spread cope and tzaangor propaganda so here is why it’s a great combat patrol
Combat patrol tsons
Cheap due to low demand
You get to run 20 birds can you complain about that
1 sorcerer very cool sculpt and a tsons sculpt easier to paint (terminator lord is not a proper tson sculpt so the only option that would join is tzaangor shaman)
20 tzaangor Cunning bird men, fun to paint, good objective holders, birds (it’s worth repeating again)
Terminators good unit and a core to a tsons force easier than rubrics to paint and very tough cool models
I mean, it's a genius move if you're GW, and you want to induce your customers to buy additional kits to make their initial purchase actually usable.
Bro, what? There are so many things you could criticise the TSons box for, and your biggest complaint is that a box that came out halfway through 9th edition isn't compatible with 10th edition's rules?
My favorite kind of videos, the ones that are basically those “Top 10 Worst and Best Factions” but now shown in a Hierarchal form
Note for the necron combat patrol: the swarms are just part of the sprues that the warriors are on, you get one you get the other
Look at this fool, unable to handle the sheer majesty that is the Tzaangor, the perfect being, the holy horned bird-goat-man, blessed child of the changer of ways. Reject the hollow, unchanging rubric. Embrace Tzaangor.
tzaangor forever
I'm sure you will get this comment a billion times, but the scarabs are permanently attached to the warriors sprue, which is why they are in every box that includes warriors.
What you don’t like combat patrol Tzaangors? Come on, who plays one of the Chaos Space Marine factions to use Chaos Space Marines. I really hope the Orks get an updated one that’s 60% gretchin
Because you play a CSM faction for CSMs. If you wanted to play demons, you'd play a demon army
It wouldn’t be so bad if they were word bearers who are known to utilise mortal fodder, throw in master of possession, dark apostle and unit of possessed and it’s at least lore accurate. Hell the death guard one would be if you replaced typhus with a lord.
Tbh I wouldn’t even complain if I was fighting an all grot army. Had someone bring all grots and Gretchen to a game with me once. Was the most fun I’ve ever had.
@@knightsljxI think OP was being _incredibly_ sarcastic.
I mean a 60% gretchin box would be pretty fun to run
As someone who's sworn off GW products to escape the endless grind of FOMO, it's always fascinating to watch videos talking about how to affordably purchase GW sets. There's some kind of feeling I get when I see people justifying how paying $160 for 20 infantry and a tank or two is a really good deal--sort of a "There but for the grace of God go I." Like, I'm not judging or anything, I get it, they had me in their clutches for years. I'm just lucky enough to have escaped their vicious cycle, and now I get to look back into the maelstrom and thank my lucky stars that BattleTech lets me enjoy endless hours of fun with a single $5 Mad Cat I bought off a dude on Etsy.
Well, if you want some "cheap" solutions or just genuinely curious to how cheap you can get your 40k armies at the *worst* possible case scenario, look at PoorHammers "Building a army for 500" and they'll tell you that with the current information there's 3 armies you can do easily for under 500, more like under 400 if you don't go the route of the worst possible pricing you can find.
I mean, battletech is dirt cheap compared to GW, even if you go on the premise of "I am definitely getting the plastic miniatures even though I don't have to" route.
$55 for a box of 4 (min you need for a game) and if you want to build a max point army, you are looking at roughly 250 instead of over 1k.
For 1 combat patrol box you could get the battletech mercenaries kickstarter box that includes 2 extra forcepacks, a museum scale madcat, and extra swag slapped on top.
Edit: that actually leaves $10 left over so you could also get a nice coffee and a scone, and probably leave a nice tip to the barista and help them have a good day; because you're having a good day because you didn't give GW any money
Well done friend, it’s refreshing to see the releases keep coming and not feel the need to splash out constantly. I just stick with 9th and play guard with my friends, using warlord games ww2 minis as my infantry/tanks and a kitbashed 1/32 churchill as my banehammer. Never been richer;)
I should add, i have a 2000 point 9th ed guard list that cost me £40 via ebay😂
I think an AMAZING thing about the drukhari combat patrol is that it’s even better than the box says! You get extra models that go on the raider that you can easily put a base under and call an archon or kabalite!
I mean, three of those boxes give you a nice, thematic start to a DEldar army (and over 1200 points, even if you only play a single Archon). Add three Venoms and maybe Drazhar, and you've got yourself a 1500 point army which feels very Dark Eldar.
@@Sammy9262You could convert one of the Archons into 'Drazhar' using bits from the Incubi leader. Maybe you could convert some of the spare models from the Raider into Wyches or something.
In the early 2000s, I got this thing called the Elder Battleforce. It was 20 guardians, a falcon, a vyper and like three jetbikes. I guess that these are all useful in the context of a bigger army with a leader, but when it was all I had, I lost every game I played. All my opponent had to do was kill the falcon, and then I had nothing that could hurt their stuff.
One time I went to the games workshop with my newly assembled battleforce and took part in the Armageddon battle they had. I put down all my stuff in a little corner because it was the only place where there was room. It was the other team's turn when I put the models down. Before I could do literally anything, this guy on the other team charges at me with these crazy chaos melee units. There was no points limit, so he got to say that they had all the upgrades. One of them just slaps my falcon, he rolls a couple dice. The falcon explodes and kills all my models. I am no longer in the game.
sounds like warhammer players alright
You played as a dying race, and you died. I would call that a success!
7th was wild tbh
@@Guo1234bobThis would have been 3rd- even worse time to play against CSM xD
I don't know man, 24 jet bikes would be kind of funny.
God help the opponent that didn't bring anti air.
Tyranid Combat Patrol could go from a B to an A+ (IMO) if they just swapped the Psychophage with a more iconic tyranid monster like the Exocrine-Haruspex kit.
Or just a carnifex or the screamer killer. But that might over balance the box.
Tbh tho the old combat patrol nids was really good imo as well
It's probably D tier because you can just buy the starter set, but looking at it in a vacuum it could use something cooler than a psycophage
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Little addendum to the Sororitas box: This looks like the content of the starter box back then, which was fine, but also had VERY limited special weapon choices. I believe the seraphim had only their bolt pistols (which sucks, because they are not going to be around for long, so you want them to carry as many special weapons for that one alpha strike as possible) and the 10 sisters had like... One flamer between them?
Will add re: the Thousand Sons box that if you're one of the weird people who also play Tzeentch in Age of Sigmar, Tzaangor in AoS are fairly elite infantry unlike the cultist-tier chaff they are in 40k. So you get a significant chunk of points on the table with 20 of them. But for that to be a consideration, it's banking on you wanting to play both Thousand Sons and AoS Tzeentch, so -- yeah, niche.
oh god the realization that you also know of poorhammer is terrifying...we must have a colab
It's mutual, too. Pancreas was mentioned in their "40K content creators we like" episode.
@@StarkMaximumwe need them to fight about ELVES
I have seen them post around on some of his videos actually iirc. I just hope they don't make him hate guard infantry like Poorhammer does. I despise their takes on the Imperial Guard cause it seems like they haven't played Guard at all this edition.
You know what is really funny to me?
The Orks box is more Dark Angels than the Dark Angels box.
We have a bunch of green all-purpose troopers, we have the tough 2+ save elite stuff (it would be even funnier if it was meganobz instead of a deff dread, but I'll just assume that DA Dreadnaughts would be Death Wing too), and we have our fast maneuverable fire support.
It's almost as though the boyz were mocking the recently forgiven, showing them how to wear green, black and white properly...
The segment where you shit on the thousand suns army with intense music in the background is hilarious. Just the barely contained laughter in your voice as you talk about them and Gws idea for them cracks me up
Pancreas: * makes slop and throws it at my front door*
Me: *runs out to gobble it up like the little fucking pig I am*
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The Start Collecting boxes have been the only thing worth their weight in gold. Some of these Combat patrols are trash. Looking at you Thousand Sons.
I will never forgive the Guard combat patrol. Felt so swindled as a new player I almost said, "Fuck it, I'm just gonna stick to RPGs."
If you want to play Guard you could checkout the new Solar Auxilia models. You could use them either as normal guardsmen or Scions. Btw there are retailers who sell the the models sometimes with a 25% discount, atleast in Europe
You have to do some research if you really want to do Guard as a new player. The Guard Combat patrol is actually pretty decent for a second purchase since Bombards aren't that bad tbh. And you basically will have all the infantry you would need to do 1k point games. If you can get the Cadian defense force, the pair of Rogal Dorns slap. 2 CPs and the Cadian defense force box gets you pretty close to 1500 points, then you get 2 Russes and fill what else you want for the remainder.
If you wanted to start Guard, you're better off spending $95 on a 3-box set of any Death Fields infantry kit from Wargames Atlantic. Sure, you're getting the same 72 infantry (90 if it's Male Cannon Fodder), but that's a good chunk of the infantry you'll want for a mixed Guard list. Spend the remaining $65 on a Leman Russ and lunch from Taco Bell.
How did gw go “we want to make combat patrols balanced” and then proceed to make the admech one worse. Imagine you and your friend buying a combat patrol and you have to play against custodes as admech.
They have their own rules so they are balanced in the "Combat Patrol" game mode.
While the primaris crusader squad in the Black Templar combat patrol are BT models before the upgrade sprue, it takes very little work to make them work as non-BT models. Basically you just need to shave down the black Templar crosses on the shoulder pads and you’re basically done (but also know doing so is annoying.) The space marine neophytes can be fancy looking intercessors, or even a stern guard squad with a flamer and if you’ve got some extra weapons you can make them look like they have a stern guard arsenal. Though with a pyreblaster/flamer you can kind of do that already. The initiates can just be fancy looking scouts, though the crusade squad only has 4 so technically under strength, and you lack the parts to model them the special guns they can have as a scout squad (not like it matters most of the time though). Still, a crusade squad can be seen as 5-6 cool looking space marines, and 4 cool looking scouts.
The sword brother is the best part though, so blinged out and with an (optional) cape, it takes very little effort to make the sword brother be a lieutenant or even captain stand in. Even has the 40mm base. The crusader squad also comes with a couple power fists, so you can model a power fist captain. Using some spare parts in the intercessor sprue from the patrol box, you can have the sword brother wield a bolter and melee weapon like a proper captain. But even if you don’t do that, just shaving down some of the BT symbols is enough to make the model a nice looking commander unit. If you get multiple of the patrol boxes, you can use the sword brothers to make a bladeguard squad, or even sternguard if you kitbash some guns to them. The kit comes with the parts to make at least two sword brethren as well (two capes, two power fists, two power swords, etc) so it has a lot of potential for creativity.
While many of the legion specific models are tough to make non-specific, I think the crusader squad is one that is more the opposite and it can and should be used to give your regular old space marine army some extra flavor
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I think the Demons Box is also a solid pick for World Eaters players. If you want a chunk of blood letters to run alongside your berserkers its a great pickup
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also I’m surprised you didn’t remember to add in my “L for Lacking a Leman Russ” joke that you laughed at during the stream
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I put this video on to fall asleep, I feel personally called out
He complains about the Grey Knights Dreadknights as if we aren't all playing 4+ of them at the moment.
Playing them doesn't mean it's a good model
Goofy ass model, I love him
@@calebbarnhouse496
But he literally said he liked the model. I don’t get his criticism. He says the box is good. He says he likes the dread knight model. He even says buying multiple of the boxes is good. But lowers the ranking because you’d get multiple dread knights?
I think he just wanted to make the “dread knight looks like baby carrier” joke that’s been said 1,000 times. But couldn’t think of a proper setup for it.
I'm glad you don't take sleeping to your videos to be insulting I love watching your videos wide awake when they first drop but nothing like a great video I've already watched to get me settled in, Need to check out the Manta sound!
Last I checked, at max the Ad Mech combat patrol is 270 points. Which is a huge downgrade from (I believe) 370 from the older Ad Mech combat patrol.
Also, not trying to start a RUclipsr beef, but this video was much better than Eons of Battle's combat patrol tier list imo
I'm gonna @ him right now.
eons of battle doesnt play the game he paints minitures
@@jamesygamesy5124 Yeah, and he wonders why he struggles to win games
@@wholesomecomment45 its alright he has fun with his side of the hobby and thats all that matters
@jamesygamesy5124 100% agree with you, I still love EOB and love his painting style/schemes on his black templars, death guards, etc.
However, he CP video was kinda misleading cause (for example) he didn't mention the Grey Knights having 3 units that are all multiunits like Terminators being able to become paladins or the strike squad having 3 different unit options.
Plus I'm salty he gave the Votann an F but the Mechanicus a B
What is even worse about the Deathguard box is that it is *part* of the Deathguard selection from Dark Imperium + Typhus. For the same price that Dark Imperium was... Necrons, Space Marines, and Tyranids also have this problem, but at least the Combat Patrols are cheaper than the box set they came from.
it does have the multipart plague marine kit and a biologus putrifier, the only kits really from dark imperium are the zombies
@@liam24040 Huh, you are correct there, there is some egg on my face there. I'd still peg it as one of the worst Combat Patrols outside of the Nids and Marines ones (of which nearly all of the contents of both are in the starter set that is cheaper).
@@fyetor haha, I only noticed because it's my army and yeah no, it's still garbage, poxwalkers are easy to pick up and you can only take 60 so more than two boxes is pointless
about the guard box
1.guard get a cb stratagem called send in the next wave for 1 cp and its just take a guardsmen unit that was just unit killed and bring it back next turn.
2. i think for the smaller size of cb the sentinel works good sense 25 guys, a leman russ, and a artillery unit would not be that well balance wise
3. i think the old box is trash for a leman russ you get half the men, a commissar instead of a command squad which is a trash trade sense you need them orders and the only ones the commissar give are +1 to oc and +1 to weapon skill and ok buff while the a command squad gives more men bteer buffs like 5+ feel no pains 24 inch order range and all regimental orders ,and instead of the field Ordnance battery you get 1 heavy weapon guy when they suposed to come in boxes and squads of 3's and the commissar cant even give them a +1 to hit
If I would do a CP for guard, it would be 20 cadians, a Chimera, Heavy Weapon teams, Castellan, and a Kasirkin squad. If that is too much, drop a cadian squad. It would be a perfect box for Guard.
If I remember correctly the scarab swarms come with the necron warriors. Also both the space marine and tyranid wombat patrols are literally just their half of the ultimate starter set, which you can get for considerably less than buying both, plus some terrain and a board to play on.
Glad someone remembers the Start Collecting boxes, I wish they would still be around. An HQ, chaff units and a big miniature for at times 60 Bucks was beautiful, I got 2 of the Admech ones which built the backbone of my army. And then with the PRIOR BETTER Combat Patrol: changed the HQ in the Box from a Dominus to an Enginseer (smaller dude), put a unit of Kataphron in there and almost double the price.
I like the fact that CP allow for their own gamemode, but they Overall dont feel as great value wise than the Start Collecting ones. And people rather Start a Hobby when the entry Fee is around 60- later 80 € instead of ~120€
If you do the maths on the Thousand sons combat patrol here in the UK it’s just get one tzaangor free. But I don’t even want my free Tzaangor. I want some damn rubric marines.
Patrol =£95
Sold separately = £25 (infernal master) + £37.50 (scarab occult terminators) + 2x £32.50 (Tzaangors) = £95 + £32.50 = 1 free Tzaangor.
I think there’s an upgrade frame for the Tzaangors too, but I’m just gonna count the units.
The upgrade frame contains arguably worse weapons for the bird goat men. And keeps them from being used in AoS. The real tragedy of the bird goat men is that they are near useless in 40k because Rubic Marines exist and they are near useless in AoS because Kairic Acolytes exist.
@@dongold9605 It also stings that rubric marines are almost the same price only £5 difference. So replacing one of the Tzaangors with rubric marines would significantly improve the combat patrol for a small change in total price before discount. I’d happily take one lot of free Tzaangors, (they might not be great, but they’d fill out my starter army as a new Tsons player) but only if I got the bits I actually wanted. I’d be tempted to buy the box twice if they swapped a unit of Tzaangors for rubric marines
I think Tzeentch would argue against and agree with your opinion on the thousand sons combat patrol while subtly influencing gw to replace all thousand sons models with Tzaangors.
Honestly it was your lore videos AND the jetbikes in this box that made me want to collect aeldari. I just wanna do zoomies with a bunch of bikes and tanks, if the bike autarch was back I unironically would run 20+ windriders and as many shining spears fire prisms and night spinners as I could fit in my list~
Congrats on 200k subscribers and thanks for further affirmation to 3D print models.
I'm glad you made it a video after streaming it
I'm very happily watching it a second time.
This time with less clicky noises and white noise, and more (bad?) jokes!
hey PancreasNoWork i have an idea for star wars video that in a way can be consider to be warhammer 40k related the Pius Dea Crusades aka that one time the old Republic become the imperium of man
I agree 100% with your thousand sons assessment that box is ass and the main reason why I was hesitant to even start the army. 1 box of Rubric Marines and a box of Terminators and a lord Terminator Armour is about a combat patrol in points.
It drops to 80$ at times in my experience meaning you could throw in a unit of rubrics (or glorious tzaangor) for the price of a normal combat patrol
Feels weird seconding a sponsor but I got a Manta mask six years ago and it is truly a game-changer. That and a white noise machine and you'll sleep like the dead. Sure beats draping a dirty sock over the LED display of a clock.
5:31 nope, they just come on the necron warrior sprue, you cant have the 10 warriors without them
I loved ending 9th with 3k worth of AdMech, absolutely loving the army looks lore and gameplay wise. Then 10th dropped and now, with slightly more models, I barely have 2k points, has hot dog water rules, but damn it still looks so cool.
15:55 What's great about the Fure Warriors is that you can either build the as Strike Team or Breacher Squad.
Just to add to the compliments I always fall asleep to your videos. Something about interesting lore/shitposting is perfect to fall asleep to. You could basically make any Warhammer vid and I'll pass out to it. (I'll wake up and finish the video as well)
Regarding the Canoptek Swarms in the Necron box: The Canopteks are on the Warriors' sprue out of the factory, so any time you buy warriors you are also buying the swarms, whether you want them or not. However, they are good for filling out that little bit of extra space you have in your point costs and can make for good interference units. You just don't ever need more than a few.
The Remembrancer gave you a shoutout, Congratulations on 200k subscriptions you glorious madlad.
i love how watching happy souls yearly is a universal experience
What about the Dark Angles combat patrol that’s 3 Inceptors, a Chaplain, a Redemptor Dreadnaught, and 5 Intercessors?
I don’t think I saw that one anywhere in the list and from what everyone was recommending it was a good buy. I also feel like it was a pretty good buy too.
That was the old DA combat patrol. Every one of those models can be made into any chapter with no problem. I think people said it was good.
Thousand Sons combat patrol summons within me a bottomless pit of despair. If GW thinks it’s good, then I can only imagine the amount of Tzaangors we’ll get with our codex reveals.
Just you wait, we'll get a dedicated Tzaangor detachment like the T'au got with the Kroot. Only it will somehow be several times worse.
Don't talk to me or my Tzaangors ever again.
One thing I'd want is like customisable patrols, like you can choose what to remove and what to add, like don't like those dinky bikes remove them and replace them with another elf, idk if this explains it well but close enough
Whelp, you've inspired me to go out and get the Khorne Combat Patrol. They should slot very nicely into my growing Crimson Slaughter army, and my Friendly Local Gaming Store is having an end-of-lease sale too...
That end joke reminder is extremely useful
I haven't yet broken a keyboard because a single mod was listed for the wrong version of Skyrim without telling me causing me to have to individually test every mod I had installed for over 10 hours
Fell asleep, woke up forgetting to liked the video, fell asleep again after finishing the video.
Thank you as always pancreas, cant wait to rewatch it with an actual working brain tomorow
No Skaven video after the Skaven finally did something in AoS and GHR plugwalking into Chaos and saying "I'm your brother now, deal with it."? Must be the power of Nagash.
Can't wait for Do or Don't Ogor Mawtribes and / or a tier list for the AOS Vanguard Box sets
Bro I sleep to your video all the time, nice calm voice makes it easy
I’d be interested to see you giving your own alternative combat patrol lists for various factions
6:13 The Invictor Warsuit is great, it just is in the wrong faction.
It's like those walkers from Avatar (with the blue aliens) and that's why it would perfectly fit in with the Guard like a more beefed up Scout Sentinel.
But maybe I just like walkers.
Man. I'm gonna forever regret not grabbing the Start Collecting Chaos Space Marines box I saw at one of my local GW stores when I was first getting into the hobby side of 40k a couple years back.
I didn't know they were on their way out.
yeah i got mine. But ive gotta say while it was a good deal its not the end of the world 2 obliterators a venom and master of possesion are not impossible to find on ebay or they show up alot in battleforce boxes. Like their is a new Battleforce box coming out soon for csm thats argueably better value then the Start collecting.
@@Jack-wy4cgThat's true and all, but my dumb ass just grabbed a box of regular-ass Chaos Space Marines. I could've gotten that, *and more*, if I'd gotten the Start Collecting instead.
they're great to start army painting as well, with a varied amount of scuplts for an ok price. I liked buying them to collect armies as well as trying out different paint schemes and styles.
So just a quick thing as a necron player, the 3 scarabs are in the combat patrol because they are actually on the same spru as the warriors. but the little guys are actuallly really useful as action monkeys, and screens as they are low cost for a good amount of wounds.
That Game was funny as hell, those bikes were just chilling all game😂
Man i REALLY want go get into Thousand Sons, and although i like a lot the Tzaangors, i feel like after that, i will never be able to to buy any box that includes Tzaangors without feeling like a idiot for having more that 20 Tzaangors.
Good video pancreas.
15:28 As someone who actually likes Space Marines, the God-awful haircuts was the biggest reason why I didn't choose the Black Templars when I was picking my chapter.
The khorne box is amazing if you want to just have an all game systems khorne army. 2 of them + a blood throne is 2k points in AoS, add a Bloodthirster for fun/summons too and you really won’t need to buy anything else. If mono chaos ever gets balanced in 40k it’ll also work really nice there.
Biggest advantage though is that khorne is so easy to paint. You could paint 2 of those boxes in a day if you really wanted to do so.
Was super not ready for that OG Bunjie's "7" reference, well done.
I would bring the Imperial Guard box up to a C tier. That combat patrol is designed for Artillery Specifically. If the sentinel is built as a Scout model, it buffs the bombast field guns. You’re definitely correct about not having an anchor though. This box sucks as a base for your army but it’s a really good complement to an already built guard army
Thnx I now know I should get a chaos space marines box and a couple of other big pieces
Also nice Ed, Edd & Eddie reference at the end
I find the Grey Knights review incredibly funny because the current best (and only competitively viable) build of Grey Knights consists of FIVE Nemesis Dreadknights. If you want to play Grey Knights right now, you absolutely want the baby carrier. Even just 3 of these boxes is basically a pretty solid budger 2k army, given you get half the NDKs you need for the full competitive build.
I feel the guard one. I recently got the cadia stands box from ebay, which is the same thing as the combat patrol, just with a now out of date book, so I figured, eh, 30 bucks cheaper than the patrol why not, cool book.
The lack of tank is quite sad. My current plan is to find just a leman rus gun bit, and smack it onto a british male mark 1 tank model kit I have that's of a similar scale. I just need to find out how big a leman rus is to accuratley measure it, because annoyingly tanks don't have bases in 40k.
about scarabs, they are in the same sprue as warriors, just like ripper swarms are in same sprue than gaunts. this is why you always get them.
necrom box would be okay if 9th edition recruit and elite boxes and Imperium magazine never existed, but nowadays is pretty easy to find warriors Skorpekh destroyers + 1 leadbelcher pot for 10€ from Imperium and warriors + royal warden was the contents of 9th recrui box which was sold for like 30€ and also had lieutenant + intercessors in it, which again was very cheap if splitting. and you can always find a Marine player to split if you want the xenos part, just walk into a store and ask if someone wants to split and by the 3rd time you do that you'll have people come to ask you to split when you enter your store 😂
The scarabs come on the necron warrior sprues, theyre essentially free
I have started collecting drukhari last month and have bought 3 combat patrols. Its wild how much value is in them
I'd personally rank the default space marines box lower than the individual chapters
worth pointing out that they are the monopose easy to build sculpts that you can find in all the starter sets and leviathan, where at least with the chapters you get an upgrade sprue and you get the actual sprue for the unit
Ok, I think I've heard from enough RUclipsrs that I should buy two Ork Combat Patrol boxes.
Oh did I type two? How silly of me, I meant three.
3:51 the scarab swarm models are part of the necron warrior sprue. Gw would have to redesign the warrior sprue. So pretty much think of them as extra 3 free model
I started 40k last year and was so, so close to buying a TS combat patrol until I watched a video (I think it was Auspex Tactics) talking about it.
I ended up going Votann because hell yeah space dwarves
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