Bruce Prichard on WrestleMania VII Controversy
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*forces Bruce to defend the angle
"Why are you getting so defensive?"
@Timothy Hunter Did you know a guy named Jimmy with his best friend, Big Foot once stole a UFO?
This is interesting purely because of how weirdly pissed off Conrad is about this. Of all the stuff that's happened in wrestling, Evil Sergeant Slaughter is the one that makes him snap at Bruce.
I'm 100% behind Bruce on this one.
Classic example of a person with a extremist view. No matter what Bruce says if it isn't what a person like that wants to hear they start insulting you instead of having a friendly debate on a topic. All because they are not willing to meet somebody halfway on the topic at hand.
It’s almost like Bruce would make an exciting and provocative product that would be worth watching by comparison to the current day, extraordinarily vanilla WWE of today. But boy they sure do have great sensible taste and never offend!
@@seanbarton4940 Wrestling was not always about being "provocative" or "edgy" - that's too superficial. Only during the Attitude Era. Wrestling used to be good because it was believable. That thing with Slaughter was done so great imo, because the heat he got was crazy! It's storyline wasn't as trash as many others in the WWE. But the way your framing it is wrong - as boring as WWE is nowadays, I don't miss all those trashy storylines that had absolutely nothing to do with wrestling (remember this shitty necrophilia thing with Kane? Perry Saturn and his mop? That racist angle between NOD and the Hart Foundation that was criticized by other wrestlers like Bret Hart and Dwayne Johnson??? That's not wrestling, not even enternaimtent but just pure trash, and even worse than Jerry Springer level).
DATURA I mean, I guess I can understand why you would conflate what I said about a provocative product with the 3 or 4 most often cited “infamous” storylines of the attitude era, but that isn’t the point I was making. In the confines of the argument being made in the clip, Conrad says they should have scrapped an entire headline match at mania because it involved some nationalism and a country that we were soon to be at war with, which was poor taste because people died in real life at some point. I disagree with his take. While I do agree with what you say about believability, I don’t think it’s the main concern. Today’s product has gotten rid of damn near anything that could be taken to be offensive in the pursuit of chasing a family audience, the problem is that they also have gotten rid of anything that could illicit any real feelings in the viewership by doing so. I just don’t really care for today’s product, maybe. But hell, it’s just not for me anymore, I don’t think.
@Last Drop Falls fuck, I see it now 😂😂😂I corrected it now😂
This is Entertainment Conrad come on.
I was 10-12 years old. These matches were all incredible to me
This is Conrad applying 2018 morality/consciousness to 1991. That doesn't work. I hate it when people do that. All I known is that I was 10 years old in while this angle was going on, and me and all my friends were totally consumed by it and ate it the hell up. Good, bad, or indifferent, it worked for the time.
That's 2018 SJW morality - rotten morality.
Thank you!! I can't stand when people pretend to have the moral superiority, by judging things from the past, in which they weren't remotely involved with. Things change, people evolve...it is what it is.
He talks about the saying all the time but Conrad loves to armchair quarterback
Upson Pratt
What - the Confederate statues...?
Your surname suits you well.
So you must think, say, that it’s wrong to condemn slavery, Nazism and worse.
Which is a rather odd argument.
Lmao I love how conrad referred to American Sniper as a documentary! I took my son to see the documentary about the grinch who lives above whoville this weekend haha
😂😂
It was based in fact but not a documentary per say!
@@tammyforbes2101
I think he’s referring to the number of lies the author told in his book.
Which landed him in court.
Bruce doesn't need to apologize for things that happened in the past. It was a great storyline and saved us from the Ultimate Warrior.
Wow, completely agreeing with Bruce for once.
Yes they did sell tickets to All in the Family, it was filmed a front of live audience
I never understood people's problem with the whole Sgt. Slaughter Iraqi angle. The United States and Soviet Union were seconds away from literally destroying civilization for decades and nobody had an issue with Ivan Koloff or Nikolai Volkoff playing Soviet heels the entire time.
perhaps...and only speculating...because this was an actual war rather than threat of war. by the 80s it was clear there was little real war implications between the US and USSR whereas US and Iraq were at war....but i agree it seemed like a standard wrasslin gimmick
It’s kind of tacky to trivialize war where real people are dying for a wrestling angle.
Insensitive stereotyping was always done before, but it doesn't mean it was ever right.
By 1991, this was old and people acknowledged the racial problem with it.
@@JLvatron People's problem with Sgt. Slaughter had nothing to do with stereotyping. It was them profiting off of the Gulf War.
@@nnelson54 Both are insensitive. They were always done in wrestling and Hollywood films, but people are realizing they were wrong.
Conrad is high that was classic WWF. Good on Bruce.
I was a kid when this was going on and I was lagit scared sarge was going to take over America lol even said prayers for Hogan to win haha such a mark.
Lol That's too cute 😊
You must have actually had a childhood. My mom was hardcore against wrestling so I never got to watch unless I was at a friends house. But I grew up in the 80’s so they scared us with Russian take over talk. Lol they still trying that one apparently! 😂
I will never understand why people like Conrad...although I do enjoy it when he's put in his place so positives out o the negatives and all that :)
I am a United States Marine Gulf War era veteran and Conrad sounds foolish saying this event should be canceled.
Honestly. Thank you for your service.
Who cares??
He said the match, Joe. Not the event.
He sounds like a God damn pussy to me.
@@mmarchetti7997 You would know how to sound like a pussy, guy
Defo with Bruce on this one - media/tv/entertainment always has and will reflect society and current affairs.....placing today's lense (where everyone is offended by everything) on an event 30 years ago is meaningless
What needs to be said is this: Sergeant Slaughter was propped up to be a bad guy. A BAD GUY. He wasn’t applauded for being an Iraqi sympathizer. He was illuminated as everything that was wrong with that side of the conflict. He was displayed as an evil man, and Hulk as the man who represented everything right about America, it’s freedoms, and what it stood for. So when Hulk defeated Slaughter, this was the WWF saying that good triumphs over evil, even in real life. You mimic the real world and then you teach kids that good defeats evil in that real life. That’s what they did.
I like when conrad challenges bruce. But in this particular case hes pushing it. It was a great angle for the time.
I agree! WWE needs to push the envelope a lot more nowadays.
It was so great no one watched it
Yeah, and as a matter of fact, I dont remember ANY controversy at all, and trust me on this......I experienced all this in REAL LIFE, Conrad.
@Philip Bolin I'm seriously starting to Re-think my stance on Conrad.....I've seen more & MORE of these weird Conrad Segments of him acting like some big Leftist Pussy.
@Philip Bolin Yeah, that's why they couldn't even get 15,000 people to attend the event. It was garbage and profiting off of a very real situation and very real deaths. Its slimy as fuck.
Were Captain America comics in bad taste then when they came out about WW2?
Richard Cawtheray
Not living in the 1940s...
No, Conrad is just a Neckbearded moron. I think all that Fat in his gut and around his tits has made its way up to his brain.
I always thought anti-American Sarge was a really fun and subversive idea
This was one of the most impressive matches I've ever seen. I was a little kid and I wanted my hero to beat the bad guy. Especially when the bad guy was on the side of people who we were about to go to war with. I wanted the good guy to beat the bad guy. As a child that's what I wanted. Saddam Hussein was the biggest bad guy of that day and Sergeant Slaughter was on the side of the bad guy and as a child I wanted to see my hero Hulk Hogan beat the bad guy.
It was a great match to us little kids who was scared of War. Hulk Hogan became a Beacon of Hope for us and just like the United States won the first Gulf War, Hulk Hogan defeated the bad guy
Conrad sounds like almost everyone today. People don't understand entertainment, everything is offensive, and they get their panties in a bunch. I grew up watching The Jeffersons, Archie Bunker, & Sanford and Son. I agree with Bruce 100% on this one, it's entertainment. Loved then love it now.
Actually on Prichard's side for once. Totally disagree with Conrad. It's acting, it's a drama, it's WRESTLING! It was edgy. It was meant to get a reaction and thousands of fans to attend to see Sarge get beat. They succeeded.
"It's a documentary." Wow, way to make up stuff. Slaughter, as an Iraqi sympathizer, was meant to be a huge "F-you" to Saddam Hussein and his dictatorship. "American Sniper" bastardized the real-life account of Chris Kyle, making him out to be a traumatized veteran. The real man openly bragged about killing people, said it was fun, lied about shooting Katrina looters, and wrote that he "couldn’t give a flying fuck about the Iraqis." That's different, right Conrad? Oh, but a professional wrestling angle is in bad taste. SMH.
you can't retroactively judge something that was done a quarter century ago with notions of today. that doesn't work. it's not productive. At the time it wasn't known to the public what people in Iraq were going through, or what was really happening in operation "desert shield" (that strong anti-war social consciousness did not manifest in the public sphere until years after 9/11, when the "millenial" generation came of age sometime in the mid-2000s). As far as the public was concerned, Wrestlemania 7 was pro-wrestling's answer to "Rocky 4" and nothing more.
Slaughter joins Cobra!
Conrad Making It Seems Like Bruce Was The Head Of The Wwe Like Come On Dude He Played A Huge Role In The Company But Not The Head
Since this Treason angle we've had incest , necrophilia, attempted murder a few times....
WWE classed up their stories. LoL!!!
Conrad is reaching on this one. There's no controversy here.
I'm on Brother Love's side in this argument, but I laughed way too damn hard when Conrad asked if "everyone was fucking brainwashed and drinking the kool-aid like you"
I wonder if Conrad watched Inglorious Bastards? Did he boo all the Russian wrestling heels in the 80's? This pearl clutching over Wrestlemania 7 is just ridiculous sounding, I would love to challenge these peoples logic.
This wasn't one of my favorite angles, the sort of heat I had with Sarge over this was more disappointment than money-heat. However, I agree with Bruce here. I don't think it was any different than the guys playing Russian or German.
The Sgt. Slaughter angle was only the same as what they were doing during the Cold War with Russian heels challenging the American heroes. I thought it was a great angle I hated Sgt slaughter when he was playing that character and just wanted to see him get his arse kicked.
Tugboat helping The Hulk was strictly for the kids. It obviously figured into the ratings in a bigger way to be given that importance. Bruce usually protects the former Titan Sports, but consistently gives candid recollections from that era. That's why I love the show.
Art imitates life. People are too sensitive. Dude is being an armchair quarterback
I love this shit... Bruce was the fucking man. I love that Conrad has given this outlet to him. Soooo many story’s however trivial are so cool to listen to after all these years.
Remember the vignettes when Slaughter “wanted his county back.”
Conrad is totally Gaslighting Bruce on this 1
One of the few times I absolutely couldn’t handle Conrad. He annoyed me so much I had to shut it off a few times. What an idiot he made of himself here
Heaven forbid pro wrestling taps into people's emotions. Today if that happens, it is by sheer accident, and everyone quickly apologizes and reminds everyone 100 times that wrestling is fake.. Good grief!
Need to do one on hulk vs taker at survivor series 91
That was awesome I remember. watching it Ric Flair slides the chair and Undertaker tombstones Hogan on to it I was 9 at the time and rember being so mad I can appreciate the angle today but back then man I was bummed out lol good. times
Not me I was never a hulk fan even heel taker I was a fan of In my very young days I liked heels then when I got older I leaned more towards the babyfaces
People who weren't around back then are acting like if current WWE did a black vs. white story right now or an anti-police angle. That shit would be huge controversy, the 1991 Sarge/Hulk parlaying off the Iraqi conflict was not a big controversy.
I don't think it was a bad angle I just think it was difficult to top 6 in all honesty. It doesn't get better than Warrior and Hogan at their peaks. Nothing that they could have done at 7 would have been better but as I say, any other event that's a great angle.
Sounds like the dog ate your homework, too. How is it difficult to top a PPV that Bruce says didn’t draw? Weak house of cards you’ve got built there.
@@Redhotshawntexas Are you saying Wrestlemania 6 didn't draw? or have I misunderstood you?
Man it was such a great run. I got to see Hogan and Sarge in person at the Spectrum in Philly. I was outside when Sarge rolled up in his limo. I was in the 2nd or 3rd row for the whole show and stayed after to meet everyone coming out up the ramp.
Bruce payed the smack down on Conrad
Bruce was 100% right
My dad was in the war and saw WrestleMania 7 on the armed forces station so 7 has a special place for me
I like this Storyline ..They needed a Big Nasty Heel for Hogan to beat .....Cos Warrior didn't do to good as the main guy
One of the best angles of all time!! I was like 9 and loved every minute of it!!
Conrad needs to remember that WWE wasn't a publicly traded company back then, and everybody ignored oversensitive snowflakes since we didn't have the internet which forces us to listen to them 24/7 in current day.
I'm usually with Conrad, but he is being way too sensitive here.... Bruce is genuinely confused by Conrad's shade.
I'd like to see Conrad ask Ric Flair or interview Ric Flair in this manner.
I remember this. I got heat like it was supposed to. If it got heat like it was supposed to, it worked .
I was only 10 years old at the time and was really into the fued.I wanted to see Hogan beat Slaughter and regain the belt and thats what i got.
I heard that, if Slaughter didnt come back, that turncoat was booked for Tugboat, imagine Tugboat as World Champ
It would have "shocked" the world
@@hulknolongerrules24 Yep and trip getting into the ring
Omg the ratings would have went downhill
Sheik Tugboat would have been terrific.
Sheik Tugboat would have been better than Sgt. Slaughter because Sgt. Slaughter was too old at that time.
Although, Sgt. Slaughter would have been the perfect guy to have in Hogan's corner at ringside to help counter General Ad-None and Iron Sheik.
....and later he could have been Sheik Shockmaster! What could have been 🤣
@@Millwall77 noooo 😅😅😅💀
Oooo this got a bit heated
Good to see, ppl not siding with conrad.. American sniper getting dismissed as documentary,slow claps for Conrad!!!
P.s: I m an Indian and I find it more as a patriotic thing for the country,rather than being in poor taste.. don't understand, this stupid view
Come on Conrad, don’t be a ❄️
Caveat...
Wrestlemania 5 wasn't great.
The main event was great... the Mega Powers exploding. But seriously... almost every other match was terrible and rushed, or had a weird gimmick, including not 1, but 2 different cases of wrestlers vs managers
Did Conrad say “how bad it was” referring to Warrior and Hogan? It’s a classic!
He's a meltzer fan...what did you expect?
I think Sgt Slaughter was one of the best ever! He could do almost any move, hold, or strike in the wrestling biz!
He was gassed five minutes into that dreary match!
Omg i forgot all about those bracelets. I was 10 at the time , i really thought hogan was hurt...lol.
No Holds Barred dont feel bad bro i marked out for it to lol i sent countless letters
No Holds Barred all the while hogan was shooting one of the worst movies in theatrical history lol
I actually wrote to the address when Hulk got hurt.
me too lol
WRESTLING WAS REAL GOD DAMMIT!
LOL
Conrad totally thinks he’s a better person than Bruce, The way he try’s to make Bruce feel stupid for having a different opinion. Almost seems angry Bruce won’t agree with him
He should work for cnn
My father was in the military and he knew what was on WWF because he'd check to see what I was watching. And he didn't care one bit about the Iraqi sympathizer angle. In fact, his only thought was that Slaughter looked goofy.
What you talkin about that Sergeant slaughter Iraqi uniforms look nice lol
I AGREE WITH BRUCE ON THIS IT WAS NO DIFFERENT THAN A MOVIE. IT WAS ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE TIME . A WHOLE DIFFERENT WORLD THAT I WISH WOULD COME BACK!!👍👍💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I like Conrad but get em Bruce!
Well let's forget the fact that sgt Slaughters life was threatened by anonymous ppl during that time he's even gone far as to say that restaurant owners wouldn't serve him food not only did people threaten his life and his families but also threatened to WWE for the poor taste that they exploited so is it important taste at first no it wasn't but later on during the angle it became very poor tasted so you can't really say that it wasn't in poor taste when after all that happened yeah it became very poor taste was it a good match between him and Hogan yeah it was a really good match but wasn't risky to do an angle like that absolutely it was.
Adnon was from the AWA
Conrad is a perfect example of why Wrestling will never be great again.... heels can't be heels, angles can't be "offensive" & fans are too soft.
This was definitely a racist angle in poor taste. But Bruce has a point, if they can make movies about it, why can't wrestling?
WrestleMania 1, 1985
Hulk Hogan & Mr. T vs Rowdy Piper & Mr. Wonderful, Cowboy Bob Orton)
Wrestlemania 2, 1986
Hulk Hogan vs King Kong Bundy)
Wrestlemania 3, 1987
Andre The Giant Vs Hulk Hogan )
Wrestlemania 4,1988
Macho Man vs Greg Valentine, One Man Gang, the Million Dollar man Ted Dibiase)
Wrestlemania 5, 1989
Macho Man Vs Hulk Hogan)
Wrestlemania 6, 1990
Ultimate Warrior vs Hulk Hogan)
Wrestlemania 7, 1991
Sgt. Slaughter vs Hulk Hogan)
Wrestlemania 8, 1992
Hulk Hogan vs Sid Vicious
Wrestlemania 9, 1993
Bret Hart vs Yokozuna vs Hulk Hogan)
Wrestlemania 10, 1994
Bret Hart Vs Yokozuma
Wrestlemania 11, 1995
Diesel/Kevin Nash vs Shawn Micheals)
Wrestlemania 12, 1996
Bret Hart Vs Shawn Micheals)
Wrestlemania 13, 1997
Undertaker vs Sid Vicious)
Wrestlemania 14, 1998
Stone Cold Steve Austin Vs Shawn Micheals)
Wrestlemania 15, 1999
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs The Rock)
Wrestlemania 16, 2000
Triple H vs The Rock vs Mick Foley vs The Big Show)
Wrestlemania 17, 2001
Stone Cold Steve Austin Vs The Rock II)
Wrestlemania 18, 2002
Triple H vs Chris Jericho)
Wrestlemania 19, 2003
Brock Lesner vs Kurt Angle)
Wrestlemania 20, 2004
Triple H vs Shawn Micheals vs Chris Benoit)
Wrestlemania 21, 2005
Batista vs Triple H)
Wrestlemania 22, 2006
Triple H vs John Cena)
Wrestlemania 23 2007
Batista Vs Undertaker)
WrestleMania 24, 2008
Edge Vs Undertaker)
Wrestlemania 25, 2009
John Cena vs Edge vs The Big Show)
Wrestlemania 26, 2010
John Cena vs Batista)
Wrestlemania 27, 2011
The Miz vs John Cena)
Wrestlemania 28, 2012
John Cena vs The Rock)
Wrestlemania 29, 2013
The Rock vs John Cena II)
Wrestlemania 30, 2014
Randy Orton vs Batista vs Daniel Bryan)
Wrestlemania 31, 2015
Roman Reigns vs Triple H )
Wrestlemania 32, 2016
Brock Lesner vs Undertaker)
Wrestlemania 33, 2017
Roman Reigns vs Undertaker)
Wrestlemania 34, 2018
Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesner II)
Wrestlemania 35, 2019
The first ever women maineventing
🌟Rhonda Rousey vs Charlotte🌟 vs Becky Lynch. 🌟
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Honestly if we believe Bruce is shilling a bit for Vince and WWE the truth is there are very few ppl that were inside the inner workings of WWF like Bruce and he has wealth of info to share when he tells truth!
This is the last podcast I ever listen to with Conrad..
I had to read the comments to understand what Conrad was taking issue with. So silly
I thought that having Slaughter as an Iraqi sympathizer was a great idea. He got to piss people off with real emotions, get paid, build up a great payoff with Hogan winning.
And the best was Slaughter's redemption.
@gary hall i think a real american patriotwho sgt slaughter was to be in iraqi sympetizernwas a bad i dea they should use iron sheik or adnan but sgt slaughter mr gi joe to iraqi sympetizer and vince almost had him burn the american flag it was a stupit
So, if they would've gone with Sheik Tugboat, would he have beaten Warrior for the strap at Rumble '91 still?🤔
Love this argument, lol. Yes, it was wrong to trivialize a war for entertainment, but the entirety of our media then and now our morally bankrupt and if you want to compete, that's what you do.
Yes its entertainment but at the time people taught that wrestling was real. People saw this as real so yeah it was poor taste. I mean do people forget Sergent Slaughter gor real threats on his life and had to wear a security vest just to go to the ring.
Slaughter's monologues were some of the best ever
Sometimes Conrad has the logic of a woman and that makes him argue like a woman.
He gets extra nasally and argues from emotion rather than logic or reason.
Weird that he gets hot over his fem feelings...
love ya Bruce!!!
"Do you see people rioting over WWE TV now?" No...and that's why nobody gets over anymore, and why the wrestling business could make a lot more money that it does.
…?
Question: Would Sheik Tugboat have taken the title from Warrior before WrestleMania?
Damn this guy interviewing Bruce is a mark. Wtf is he talking about? Poor taste...its entertainment..
Awesome interview one of the best ones to challenge everyone who watched WWF at the time to rethink what they saw and to really read into it.
Conrad, you are completely wrong, 100% behind Bruce. The ignorance here is you not following timelines. Its fckn entertainment. Stop with the match should have been cancelled...that's fckn dumb. You are not right on this one, trying way too hard
I think Conrad is begging the question in the way a lot of fans have begged the question after the fact.
Exactly 💯
Things way more offensive than the Sgt. Slaughter heel turn would be the actual Iraq conflict, which much like the current one, was based in lies. Hulk Hogan called Yokozuna a "Jap", a completely racist term for Japanese people at WWIX, and while he was a face. Vince McMahon dropped the N bomb on tv because he thought it was cute. Mohammed Hassan angle as being an "actual terrorist", that was going to "behead" the Undertaker. All of those are way more offensive than WWVII.
They did sell tickets to Archie Bunker. Where do you think the live audience came from?
Selective memory????? Conrad you are going to seriously tell me the Retribution angle is not influenced by Antifa…..c’mon dude
Hulk Hogan was playing a John Wayne role here. Typical propaganda and I don't have a problem with it even though I wish we stayed out of the middle east.
Conrad, dude you guys are just reminiscing about the past. Its already done, no changing it. Period. Quit getting so testical about it, so , what do the kids say nowadays, SJW? Let the man speak Conrad, let him fill us with his knowledge of actually being there and shut up.
Conrad is playing that part.
I frankly don't think it's a bit deal now. There was quite a bit of regret back in 1991.
Honestly, I think Hogan vs Sheik Tugboat would have been as good as or better than Hogan/Slaughter. They could have put Hogan and Tugboat in the middle of the card and put Warrior/Savage at the end. Really though, I think Hogan vs. Rick Rude would have been a great feud for that show and so would Hogan/Warrior 2. Put Slaughter and Tugboat as a team against Jim Duggan and Nikolai Volkoff or something. Slaughter and Tugjob didn't belong in the main event of a WM.
Chumlee aka conrad is a goof sometimes
Come now, Conrad...It is all theatrics--plus it was a different time. Please don't go woke.
Really, really love Bruce getting indignant with Conner here, Convoy is a heel through and through and should be embarrassed by his faux ignorant line of questioning all of the time.
I'm more offended that Hogan refused to put Bret over in 93 than this make believe angle.