Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's Wrestlemania Biography
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- From Episode 448 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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i don’t understand why Cyndi Lauper isn’t in the WWE Hall of Fame yet, is it from her own personal reasons? She’s been much more influential to the success of the company than the some of the other musical celebrities in it
They would love a female celebrity inductee who is still semi-relevant, so I’d bet money that she has yet to accept the honor for whatever reason
The bella twins going in ruins the whole thing, bunch of hokem I say
If they are gonna put Pete Rose in the WWE HOF, they damn sure should put Cyndi Lauper in
Where is the WWE Hall of Fame located, again? Y'all always arguing over who should be included in something that doesn't exist.
I saw her in an eczema commercial she should be in degeneration eczema, stupid joke I’m 44 living with my mom
If I remember correctly, Pat mentioned on Legends of Wrestling that Ali originally was going to be the actual ref. But once they met him in person to start going over things, that's when they realized he was already mentally fading and wouldn't be able to do it. So they made him the enforcer, and Pat stepped in. Which had the bonus of helping Mr. T along.
Ali was apparently so gone that he was really trying to get into it with Piper during the match.
Best time in wrestling to me. The Golden era. Saturday Night Main Event, MTV, and Hogan vs. Piper.
If you look back on Saturday night main event most matches were squash matches.
Hogan vs Paul orndorff omg me and my grandma watching!
@@pl2200 That's not what I remember. The regular weekend TV shows had mostly squash matches, but IIRC, SNME matches were more like Raw or Smackdown matches today.
Of course, SNME was only on once every six weeks or so.
Great time in wrestling for sure.
@@michaelmclaren1333 Mr. Wonderful vs. Hogan in the cage man.
MTV of the 80s and Nickelodeon of the 90s are what creativity is before the corporation gets so big it kills creativity, like wrestling
Unpopular opinion - it was never creative. It was just better than what came after
@@AmericanNope Yep, that's pretty unpopular, they were pretty creative.
Excellent example 👏🏿
I have to agree. 90's Nickelodeon was where it was at.
Wrestlemania was a risk they took and it was just the right moment in time they had Mr T and they had star appeal an hogan was massive and piper was over it crossed over to the mainstream an it just worked and after wrestlemania 3 it was solidified as a huge show
3 was the best imo…one of the Most Wrestlemania-Y wrestlemanias lol it looked like Woodstock for wrestling daytime by night it seemed like Hogan and Andre were wrestling in the cosmos in front of galaxies 🌌 🪐
@@tobiasfarragut292 yeah I mean it's big today it's like whole weekend of things to do now they have multiple shows the hall of fame indie promotions put on there biggest shows that weekend aswell in the area and everyone makes alot money every year from it. But yeah mania 3 hogan vs andre it felt larger than life. Hogan was the super hero and andre was the giant of a man he had to take down and it wasn't a good match tbh like in terms technical stuff etc but it didn't need to be they just had to hit the big spots right an get to the slam and the rest is history
@@theboxingboy7422 oh yeah it was the most hyped match that was the drizzlin shits… it was a hip toss with two count that SOUNDED like a 3 like hogan missed his cue and kicked out late bear hug, bodyslam leg drop that shit was all selling and drama 😅
@@tobiasfarragut292 Even I knew that match was drizzling crap and I was like 7.
@@lodi70005 when I was 7 Slaughter v Hogan was really part of the Gulf war lol
Corny with the WWF ice cream bar in the thumbnail is gold. Those were the best ice cream bars ever! 🍦
They need to bring those back!
@@forthedoggiesguitars2277 💯
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Just like the chocolate Graham cracker pop tarts back in the day. The 80's were awesome.
I always got jobbers lol
I’ve heard that the reason why Jimmy Snuka was in Hogan and T’s corner was in case T backed out at the minute.
Snuka was the biggest star until hulk took his spot supefly my all time favorite
Cyndi lauper did wwf and had that song in the goonies. She was a fox and super talent. Hope she's doing well.
i remember the chiptune of that song from Goonies 2 on Nes
Underratedly hot
According to Roddy Piper's book from a few years ago, Mr. T almost single-handedly derailed the first Wrestlemania. Apparently Mr. T showed up at MSG with an entourage and got pissed when they wouldn't let the entourage into the locker room and wasn't going to do the match. Hogan had to talk to him and calm him down to get Mr. T to do the match.
Piper also said in his book that during the build up for the match, when he smashed the record over Captain Lou Albano's head. Vince wanted him to really kick Cyndi Lauper in the head. Vince thought it would be great heat. Piper wouldn't do it because he knew that if he did, he would never get out of the arena alive not to mention that he would have either gone to jail or been sued for everything he had.
Pipers book was full of more shit than him
Always be weary of wrestlers. They do tend to tell long tales.
Piper was ROIDED and COKED UP most of the time. and made RACIST SLURS Towards Mr T.
Cyndi already seems to have been kicked in the head a few times.
@@jamespaul6315 Yeah, but they're fun to listen to, even if they're BS.
In 50 years, people will believe Vince invented wrestling
I was a Piper fan. Piper was the original rival to Hulkamania, should get just as much credit for the success of WrestleMania
Yep.
They kept repeating how much Vince spent on Wrestlemania but I really wish they would have told the actual dollar amount spent on the event, how much money they made off of the event and how much each celebrity made. What would be the big deal to disclose that kind of information? I think saying Vince would go out of business the next day if Wrestlemania failed is a massive exaggeration.
From what I have read it really isn't far fetched. He was stretched thin trying to beat everyone all at once. It wasn't WrestleMania alone that would bankrupt him, it was everything going on at that time. It was big roster, multiple spot shows per night, buying TV time slots, doing WrestleMania, getting the celebrities, plus a bunch more stuff. If Crockett was paying a million for one areas TV imagine what he was paying to get TV spots around the country and buying out the people who accepted it or matching/ beating what they were paying. The 80s were much different for wrestling than after the late 90s until now.
@@SalsBrain if they want to prove their point, they should have done their research and told us actual dollar amounts, this was a very lazy effort, this should have been the best episode but was very mediocre
@@troysmith5749 They aren't going to, likely ever. It would likely show they exaggerate it.
And Young Bucks could buy the WWE from their newspaper 💰 money 😂
@@joegreene7619 exactly, so give us the numbers, they literally just threw this thing together in a few hours and called it a day
If Vince McMahon hadn't thrown Dr. D David Schultz under the bus, it would've made a great six man tag team main event between Hogan, Mr. T, and Jimmy Snuka v Roddy Piper, Mr. Wonderful, and Dr. D David Schultz.
Were are my
JIM CORNETT ICE CREAM BARS?
Rasslemania, truly the Superbowl, Olympics, Woodstock and World Cup combined for 40 year old virgins
I was a kid. Living in nyc. I tryed to get my dad to get tickets. To this event….. he tryed but the tickets sold out……. We ended up going to the felt forum. And watching it across the street from Madison square garden……. 👋. And watching it on large screen
I mean they're always gonna embellish the truth. WWE truly does control their own narrative. However Hogan was an attraction like no other those early years. Over like crazy here in NYC. Every kid in my neighborhood talked WWF. By WrestleMania 3 his hype was truly on a league of his own. It made me rent the coliseum video tape at 4 just seeing him and Andre staring on that cover like two wild men. Savage and Steamboat blew my mind and it kept me as a fan all the way until 2002. The first 8 WrestleManias really felt magical on a level no others until 13 - 19 did again.
When I worked at a Gamestop in Woburn,Ma I had an ex wife of Brutus Beefcake come in asking for any WWE games featuring him, only 1 featured him that we had available ( as a downloadable character) as she planned to take him to court for whatever money he was residually earning from it.
That's just sad
That’s hilarious.! Beef cake looks like Jett from weird science
Joke's on her; he probably didn't get paid much, if at all.
That's so despicable. Bad part is that the ex wife probably ended up with more of his money and property than he did.
I think we need an andre the giant /Stephanie McMahon animated series.
The Giant and the Billion Dollar Princess.
I turned it off as soon as Stephanie said, "My Dad had a vision."
When Beefcake appeared on the show I said “oh Brutus, what happened?” and my ten year old son said “He’s really let himself go.” I give Brutus a pass though. He did have that accident that almost killed him, and for all practical purposes ended his career, in 1990 so I don’t think we should judge his appearance to harshly. A near death experience is bound to impact how you’re going to look as you age.
Beef cake looks like Jett from weird science
He was jacked as disciple in wcw
It's crazy to see these wrestlers we knew from the 80's all old and shrunken down, isn't it?
@@scottshaffer7296 Best shape I ever saw Beefcake was as Disciple in 98
Ooooh there's a scary substitute... Cyndi Lauper for Snuka, Shania Twain is now Chris Benoit!!
The book Bian was talking about (and never mention) is probably Tim Hornbaker 's Death of the Territories: Expansion, Betrayal and the War That Changed Pro Wrestling Forever
Steph McMahon is not aging well, Iceman King Parsons used the song "We are family" Kerry Von Erich also used "Eye of the tiger", David Wolfe wanted to be a wrestling Manager Period, I had heard Snuka was there to watch Piper & Orndorff so they did not take liberties with Mr. T
It's not enough for Vince Jr. and WWE to win, it is not enough for them to be first. They have to be "only". If they make an exception it is only temporary and in fact serving that agenda long term.
Jim hits on why WWE really won the war here, and it's something I think he's downplayed or glossed over sometimes in the past. Once Vince was able to get his product/roster to be involved with mainstream pop culture outlets, it didn't matter if JCP (or anyone else) was doing comprable business among the wrestling fans, because when the broader general public thought of pro wrestling at that point, they were thinking of WWE and the WWE talent.
There was no WWE.
@@goodday2760 Spare me the semantics.
@@Tim85-y2q It's not semantics. I'm surprised you don't know that. Referring to the pre-WWE days as WWE has specific implications and shapes the way people think in certain ways.
@@goodday2760 What implications are those? It's simply referring to the same company by it's current name as opposed to the former. Most everyone does that for ease of use. Even Jim does that regularly.
@@goodday2760 100% semantics and you know it. lol
This video dropped late at night on the east coast and as much as I love listening to jim and Brian I was gonna wait till tomorrow to watch but honestly I couldn’t wait because of Travis’s artwork ! It’s just incredible how his artwork pulls you in . Why is hulk hogan in pigtails ?why is jim eating a superstar ice cream bar with him on it while wearing An mtv T-shirt ?
Snuka should have won the WWWF Title instead boring Backlund
Jimmy was having issues back then. Buddy Rogers tried to help him
The Mountains Center in Gainesville Georgia actually ran Starrcade '91 on closed circuit lol. It wasn't exactly sold out, but, there was a good many people there. They also ran Starrcade 1990 on closed circuit too, the year previous & that was slam packed. Both showings also included several live matches too from talent who weren't booked for the shows. It was interesting how they had the big screen set up lol.
The beginning of Sports Entertainmentmania.
They’re spot on about the crowds…go back and watch the powers of pain vs the road warriors bench press contest. The fans were going crazy, equivalent to a John cena pop today
Ali was supposed to be the main ref but when they found out how messed up he was that week of, Pat Patterson quickly came up with the floor referee angle.
According to Dusty in RF Shoot interview didnt think of promoting the way Vince did with cable's MTV, SNL, wirth celebrities. Yeah they were TOO BUSY spending the money on themselves rather than production and across the board promoting. OMG when they ran the Great American Bash in Philadelphia's Veteran Stadium. No radio, newspaper, tv, zero as far as I remember,. ONLY the local UH channel they broadcasted on. For god sake Dusty, did he not realize how HUGE a media market Philadelphia is/was .
"Burt Reynolds, the first time I met him, he introduced me at Madison Square Garden at Wrestlemania X" - Roddy Piper
Rocky 3 came out in 1982, Wrestlemania I was in 1985....three year difference.
I wish I could have one of those Superstar Icecream Bars again they were actually pretty damn good on a hot September day like today Jake Bret Yokozuna Undertaker IRS Beefcake Macho Man Razor they were fuckin awesome guys.
The trading cards that used to be packaged with them were pretty great.
Hence during Punk's first promo for AEW, he talked about ice cream for the crowd 😎
I think WWE should try closed circuit for the big shows again. Imagine, if you can't go live. Watching Wrestlemania, or the Royal Rumble in a movie theater. That's sounds like a really good 2nd opinion to seeing to live, because you are still with a crowd.
Hogan was on an episode or two of “The A-Team,” which at the time I thought was strange and you could tell that George Peppard hated it. Delivered all of his lines with his teeth clenched.
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Because the crowd was focused on the matches and the event itself, not checking their IPhones for what color lip gloss Kim Kardashian is wearing today.
That's because smartphones hadn't been around at that time
Vince miss on Don Muraco as world champion. I think it was better Jr took over. If Jr was in charge Superstar Billy Graham turning baby face and would be Hogan
Evil Knevel also had some of his stunts on closed circuit.
So Jimmy Snuka is Cyndi Lauper? Same way Chris Benoit is Stevie Richards?
I missed the episode of Biography but did they mention that they had to refund the money for all the satellite locations that the closed circuit broadcast failed and people rioted? They ended up broadcast it for free the following weekend in those cities.
They did not mention it at all. If they did, I missed it. Still, I don't think biography made any mention of where they had closed circuit failures. Kind of like how Jim & Brian said at the beginning of the episode, they didn't talk about issues that went wrong.
@@crash777burn because its a fairy tale version of the story
*"ya think AnE is gonna milk Bio episodes for every WM?"*(BobbytheBrainHeenanVoice)
When you finally figure out what in the world that thumbnail is, it’s hilarious. Kudos, Travis!
The Rock n Wrestling Connection is a huge reason of how and why I got into wrestling in my youth, and I'm sure it's a huge reason why and how I love female rock singers still to this day. Cyndi is supposed to come out with a biographical documentary called, "Let The Canary Sing" and I wonder how much of it will feature wrestling footage.
Also, I wonder if that's how Rick Derringer, who performed Hogan's theme, became Cyndi's guitarist for True Colors...
Stephanie was so phoney on that show
I LOVE that Cornette’s review is just as long as the actual program.
Jim is right. The main event was the seller in mania 1. The tag title match and IC title were certainly card worthy but the times were short for all the matches.
Vince Sr.'s Showdown at Shea card was a much better card in terms of more main event worthy matches on 1 card
And of course Andre on the card at mania 1 time was a main event level match and add the drama of the body slam and money
Just a random thought I had while watching and thinking about older days who else hopes triple h brings back ice cream bars lmfao 😂
Rocky 3 was HUGE for Hogan’s career. Myself and several of my friends started watching wrestling after that movie because we wanted to see Thunderlips wrestle. I have no clue why he downplays it because it’s obvious. That movie brought Hogan to mainstream and the WWF ran with it.
Yes. At the he went over to the AWA and as soon as he appeared after Rocky 3 came out, he got cheers. Rocky3 made him a fan fav and he became Hulkster &Hulkamania & his career really took off then and then Vince brought him back and marketed the hell out of Hulkamania
Cyndi and Mr. T need big praises for the success of maina
typo?
Bruno was so over with the generation before mine.
alot of the ideas wwe/vince claims to have invented, it was done before but they took it to another level. they had access and money to polish and reinvent.
The way my eyes rolled at Hogan saying he had to keep his eyes on Mr. T… 😂
Also, I was wondering why Snuka was in a dress when I saw the thumbnail and now I know lol.
Why do they call it Madison Square Garden when it's round?
Pretty sure the original MSG from the late 1800s and the next 2 were square-ish and built on Madison Square in NY before the current round one....they just kept the name for history
It was built on Madison Square. The name has nothing to do with the shape of the building.
I thought this was an awesome episode. I hope we get a Rivals episode with Piper and Hogan. Heck a 2 part episode of that would be awesome
I believe the opening match of this wrestlemania. Was tito santana. Vs. the masked executioner. 🤼♀️. 🎫
The MSG show before WrestleMania, like a week before, was a much superior show in terms of in ring action.
(About Brutus Beefcake being a fat beefcake) Jim Cornette: “You don’t get that fat snorting and if he had been cutting then he should’ve been cutting carbs!” 😂❤😂😂😂 loved that comment
Kerry used 'Call me' by Blondie before ' Tom Sawyer'
He really said Beonce!!!!! I'm dead!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They can have a episode of for every 3 Wrestlemania and then do the same for every other PPV like Summerslam and Judgement Day and have 2 or 3 seasons like that and have interviews for each.
"a episode of for every 3"
Edit this.
@@stacyhamilton2619 nah I’m good sis.😎
@@reginaldshort8486 You're terrible, Reggie.
Who's your editor - Eugene?
@@stacyhamilton2619 couldn’t afford him. Do you remember the short, fat, stripper guy who was covered in baby oil? He’s doing excellent in my opinion.
It's almost baffling to watch WrestleMania 1 again now and see what it really was, compared to the hype - and especially compared to what it has become in WWE "lore" and in some WWE fans' minds. My favourite match from the whole thing is Richter vs. Kai these days, believe it or not. I'm talking about watching the actual show, not clips, RUclips videos about it, or commented/edited versions that were made years after the fact.
"RAW", "Nitro", and even "Dynamite" (I can't believe I'm writing this) had better quality in several regular episodes than WrestleMania 1. Not to mention almost every Wrestlemania after the first, at least the post-Hulkamania ones.
In a way it's like remembering your first time. Life-changing at the time - but when you look back at it with a lot more experience? It was bad, awkward, and kind of embarrassing. Yet such an important moment in life.
(Yes, I said "moment". Don't try to pretend it lasted any longer than that.)
It was more what it represented and crossing over into the mainstream. Its impact cannot be denied.
I'd like to hear more Hogan (lies) stories! Jim make up some so we can all laugh more. Haha
Id like to be able to watch WrestleMania and UFC at the movie theater now.
Those great foreign heel gimmicks of yesteryear = can't really get away with that now, unfortunately.
I've recently been really ill with gastro and ever since I've been improving, the only form of entertainment I can consume is listening to Corney rant 🤣. Thanks for being here with me in these trying times Jim, I wouldn't wish this sickness on anyone.
Is Muhammad Ali in the WWF Hof? No but freaking drew Carey and trump is and that's why I take a Hugh dump on WWE and have not watched it in 17years
Even Kid Rock is in the hall of fame
Why would the wwe have anything to do with a show that bashed them. involving the most successful event the company ever produced.
Ditto jc with mates doing mtv recordings.lol. oh the days.
I missed this artstyle.
Wwc aniversary 198? Closed circuit in p.r
Brian's Andre impression is 🔥
Made me laugh out loud at the gym
Also, why isn't Cindy in the HOF???
Who could induct her? Hogan is semi disgraced, even if he got in the hall of Fame again cause of nwo.
Piper and Orndorrf are gone.
Only Mr T, Vince or Wendi Richter can do it and it should happen at the next wm
Piper said he don’t take dives in regards to Mr t they wanted me t to knoock out hot rod then piper body slams T hahaha t had no business in the ring with Piper that was wm 2
Meltzer actually confirmed that Mr T was scared that Piper and/or Orndorff would beat him up, because he knew they could. So in this instance, Hogan is actually telling the truth.
I think he kept holding up WWF for a bigger payday on the day of the show. If that confrontation on SNL wasn’t legit it’s the most Memphis the WWF ever got as far as angles.
If anything Meltzer corroborating something is evidence that it's false.
Bee-yonce 😂😂😂
More hogan jealousy
Wrestlemania 1: Last time we see Public at a Wrestling event.
Wrestlemania X-7: Last time we saw Real Wrestling fans at a Wrestling event.
Boy do we live in a weird time
Too much beef and cake
MTV was awesome in the 90s and 2000s and now it's total trash I'm shocked they get any ratings at all
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@@PaulieD1984 can you say the name? Can you say the name for me?
@@tonyxu3878 pervert
Hee-haw will return after these special arguments...
you have to think about wrestlemania in two diffrent ways.. as yes for the wwf at the time when it began it was a huge deal and very exciting , but at same time was also the beginning of the end of kay fabe altogether, when u mix celebritys with wrestlers its just not as believable.. and sidenote( having taker have a streak after kay fabe was gone was absolutely meaningless. as everyone know it wasnt a competetion) then it just got out of hand with the silly ideas,.. midgets, motorcycles, el gigante outdoors lol it turn away from the core of wrestling and was just a production..! then when wrestling got worse and worse the show was still the biggest part of the company, but held no meaning as was never the same build up to like in past! ironicly the triple threat womens match with rhonda flair and becky was one of the best thins the wwe has done in longtime.. it was actually done in way that was interesting and not silly.. the women actually took over the top billing!
I wish you guys had video portions of the show would make me feel like alot less of a loser sitting in my living room going thru my phone listening to a podcast
Wrestlemania was garbage always has been and always will be Starcade was 10 times better
The very first music video that was on MTv I remember as a toddler was Whip It! That was back when they actually played music and not the horsesh!t they have now.
Video Killed The Radio Star was the first clip they ever showed.
Snuka went to prison for murder
Shit bro you just unlocked a CORE MEMORY,, the REASON I got into wrestling the REASON I even knew what it was was because JYD came out to ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!! Wow… definitely, the music was a BIG part of it for me as a kid obviously.. the LOD coming out to IRON MAN was another
We don't use the work BRO on this channel. 🤣 You understand what I'm talking about right?
Sting coming out to Seek n Destroy by metallica was awesome;]
The Dog had a great entrance, for sure buddy... MID SOUTH FOREVER BABY!
Anyway, I sometimes say bro as well... Hell sometimes I say brother... one time I even tore my shirt and then said brother... But then, I grew up in the 80s... D
Is it *really* a "core memory" if you fucking forgot about it for years....?
Corny with the WWF ice cream bar in the thumbnail is gold. Those were the best ice cream bars ever! 🍦
Very cool to hear Jim acknowledge that Kerry Von Erich used "Tom Sawyer." RUSH's masterpiece. The modern day warrior. 👊
Whenever I hear that Song, I think about The Modern Day Warrior!
Me 2 that was my first exposure to the classic track as a brother growing up in North St.Louis, in the early 80s.
Gross. Rush is one of the most overrated acts ever.
@@thejoshpresle That's your opinion.
2112 is another one, not that it would work for wrestling
Yes…I went just about every month to MSG in 81-84…and it did change so much after 84…which Hulkamania was a huge game changer. The hype for this Wrestlemania was unforgettable. Wrestlers were not all over the media like this until this time
Vince is the George Lucas of wrestling = his stuff is better when he doesn't have full control.
Maybe Vince will go back and start changing things too? Wrestlemania 3 - Special Edition (Andre beats Hogan). Wrestlemania 17 - Special edition (Austin doesn't turn heel).
Brian's point about the blue collar fan being pushed out of attending shows is a good one. But it's policies of New York that has routinely done that.
Instead of seeing big events as entertainment for the masses, they see them as an opportunity to pillage tax money.
Also, Mr. T had been getting harassed by Dr. D David Schultz (which is the real reason ge was fired) and Piper because they were jealous of his pay. A tale as old as time.
yep!
So many memories. I personally think that underestimate the impact that Rocky 3 had on Hogan’s impact. For example I was living in PR and I knew of Flair, Dusty, the Road Warriors etc but once I saw “Thunderlips” I really wanted to know who this guy was. I was always a NWA fan but really look into WWF because of him.
Nice comment, exactly the same here!!
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yep...spot on comment...I saw rocky 3 in the theaters as a kid...hulk was awesome in it
You must be in your 60s already, correct sir?
@@jamirimaj6880 if it helps...im not sure about the gentleman who made the main comment...I was 8 when I saw rocky 2 ...I had just been getting into Georgia wrestling because where I lived in New york , cable TV had just came to long island....Georgia wrestling was coming up to us kids living in New york on the "New" cable tv....at about the same time I saw rocky 3 and soon hogan was in the wwf...I started really getting into wwf in 84.....im 48 now.....hope that helps
It’s crazy how much wrestling exploded after Mania to where they drew 33 million viewers for Andre vs Hogan on Saturday Night’s Main Event just four years later.
I was there! Nosebleeds in msa, 8 years old;]
Andre vs. Hogan was on The Main Event, not SNME. The show aired on a Friday night on NBC.
And it was three years later, not four. WrestleMania I was 1985; The Main Event was 1988.
"Whenever Hulk Hogan says something, you have to immediately fact check it!" Priceless! 🤣😂🤣😂
Hulk Hogan should be blown. Hulk Hogan MADE the entire wrestling business. NOBODY mattered but Hulk Hogan.
Brian Last is only 42, he has good wrestling history knowledge. Im impressed
Not to mention he’s also traveled to see a lot of wrestling. He was a teen and already going to East Tennessee and Philly to see SMW and ECW shows. That’s pretty cool as well
You made that up
As someone who is 42 and thought I knew a lot about wrestling, Last runs laps around me. Even if I don't always agree with him, he knows his stuff.