Congrats for your review 🎉🎉🎉 Finally a guy that gives a controller review based on his in game experience. Most of the creators out there are more interested about whether the controller casing feels soft or hard than giving a proper review
I have this controller and it's near a perfect fit for my use case. The only thing it lacks that I still need in a controller of this type is Gyro motion controls and Hall sticks would also be a welcomed addition. Although I've heard they are working on new hall stick modules that we can replace come early 2024.
Hey so Hall effect models have been confirmed by them coming in early 2024. The controller is really good to use, for me the 125hz is a bit of an issue, but I’ll. e doing a back to back with edge and Nacon rev5 on MW3, to really determine if using this one is a disadvantage.
Hey man I just wanted to say I love how thorough and in-depth your reviews are. I would really love it if you decided to review the Razr Wolverine ps5 controller, I'd like to see your thoughts on especially compared to all the other ps5 pro controllers you've reviewed.
My first pro controller. Was tossing between dual sense edge or this. At first, no vibrations, haptics etc. was disappointment. Sensitivity was too high. Got the software, made some adjustments and now gotten used to it. Absolutely love how it performs and feels and will only get an edge in future for sony excluisves or single player games.
controller has potential, if they could use premium materials it could be the best controller on the market. i have one and it's very comfortable and overall good controller. ill be getting another one but with rumble feature xbox version in about 2 months. good review btw
This was such a Great review plus the only one in youtube that actually shows the software in depth. Thanks. Do you know if there is a way to unmap the L3 and R3 buttons so that if you press them by accident while moving the analog sticks nothing happens?
Hey so far the elite series2 is the only one I have that had this capability. I think it’s a much needed feature specially for a 4 back button controller.
Thanks for your videos, waiting for the comparison between it and the Nacon REVOLUTION Pro 5 and Razer Wolverine v2 Pro, If you can please, I have Dualsense EDGE but I need a controller with 4 Back Paddles. Thanks, wish you a good luck ✌️😊
Hey bro I'm really interested in the Razer as well, to me it's looking like an amazing option. I started using my wolverine V2 chroma again, just to see if I can get used to the shape. I'm hoping to get the Wolverine V2 pro but the price scares me every time lol. You see every purchase decision is kinda based for potential videos as well and I'm not sure how much demand for a thorough Wolverine V2 review would be out there. Still for me personally its looking like a good option for MW3.
@@thephototechy To be honest with you, I saw many reviews about the Razer Wolverine v2 Pro but some people they love it & some not, because of the 4 Back paddles position and quality. but you can remap 6 buttons. It’s helpful really to remap 6 buttons, I play only Ranked in Call of Duty MWII/III and Apex Legends and to play Pro you must have 4 paddles. Anyway, I’m waiting for the Victrix and Nacon video. Wish you good luck 😊
Hey, thanks for your videos! I really like your reviewing style. May I ask what you are currently using as your main controller on the PS5 platform? Thanks again!
Quick question... When you do stuff like adjust trigger min dead zone on PC app do that settings get saved in controller, thus transferred over to PS5?
Yea bro yes they do and honestly a sorta must, coz the triggers can become sensitive after use. Right now I use the second shortest settings with some min deadzones as to not accidentally press them.
Hi again! Now I have a bit of experience with BFG and despite its flaws that unfortunately exist I am willing to say: "I love this controller". I did a bit of research in regards to not being able to use its app on Windows 11. Supposedly it is possible to install Windows 10 in a virtual box and then run the controller app on it. I am planning to test this for the weekend. Another alternative would be to in possession of an extra computer that is a bit older and still runs on Windows 10. Then you could simply use a controller app on that comp. Also I have added a slight modification to the controller. Whaaaaat, already!!!? 😂😂😂 It is applied in a way that allows me to keep the controller in its original shape. I know how you are mostly playing FPS, so I don't know if this info will be useful to you, but here we go. I am using the left thumbstick in PS configuration/orientation and I have mounted an attachment on top of existing thumbstick (the highest one that comes as spare part) to slightly more than double stick overall height. In a game that I play the most, eFootball, this allows me to get much finer control over the movement of the players (really small/delicate movement). As you have mentioned, BFG has a larger number of zones in comparison to Edge so my guess is that the longer lever allows me to achieve a really fine control over the amount of movement applied. I have tested this in an out and for me it really works. This controller really has some potential and I cherish it much more than I have ever cherished my ex Edge or Aim controller. That is why I no longer have them in my possession. Unfortunately the controller comes with some flaws and they can be a big minus for some people. Depending on how you like to grab the controller it is possible that sometimes by an accident you might deactivate the depth set for your adaptive triggers. Also controller configurable buttons at the back are too light in my opinion so I keep them disabled to avoid accidental activations. Triggers suffer from the same weakness. Still it is possible to adjust the dead zone for them and kinda avoid this to be an issue, if you can install the bloody app. 😝😝😝 Despite all its flaws, for what it is, I am still willing to say that I like this controller far more than Edge. It sounds like I hate Edge. Not true, I just think how Sony could do much more with their controller. What they have right now in my opinion is just a slightly improved DualSense version, kinda like tax for fools that are willing to pay extra 🤭🤭🤭 Best regards
Just tested the mentioned setup in Star Wars Battlefront (another game that I play quite frequently). Holly F!!! You have to try this and give me your opinion (you can apply the same setup for the right thumbstick too). As mentioned in mine case height equal to slightly higher than double from higher exchangeable stick provided by manufacturer works like a charm 😊
@@drq594 hey I do use the so called sniper stick as times with kontrolfreeks no slip grip on it. Kontrol let definitely has a lot of potential, specially when PDP release their own Hall effect modules for it. Im very keen to see which modules they’ll end up using and how they’ll work.
@@thephototechy Hi! Can you share more info about the mentioned sniper stick? I have kit bashed extension I am using from an old dual sense thumbstick (just a stick body that sits on top of the potentiometer housing). It would be easier if it is possible to simply buy an extension that is a bit longer since I have no spare parts left. Thanks
@@drq594 hey I meant the extra long thumbstick top that comes with the controller. It’s haven’t tried to install a totally different top m the module itself.
@@thephototechy You should try to do just that. It is like having a whole new level of accuracy, I swear I am not making this up. I am also using that extra long thumbstick but on top of it I have mounted an old dual sense thumbstick, top black part that fits onto the potentiometer body. So now I have just a little bit more twice of a thumbstick height from what you have. I don't have very long fingers but still with thumbsticks in PS layout it is comfortable to use the controller. You must try this! I have already looked for possible extensions that can be bought online, but nothing at that high is available, so I guess I will have to buy some spare parts online and build one more extension for the right thumbstick. Yesterday I tried an existing extension in Star Wars Battlefront (FPS). It was amazing! Anyhow it is up to you. Best regards
Schönes video, danke dafur. Ich bin leider mit den Triggern nicht klar gekommen. Ich habe sie nocht enstellen können und ausversehen immer ausgelöst bei CoD und in Warzone war es ein riesen nogo fur mich und meine Teammates. Alles andere hat siper gepasst, vor allem die Form des Controllers. Ich tendiere zum neuen Nacon, aber den habe ich noch nicht.
Hey so the way I'm using it is on second trigger stop with 15 minimum deadzone set in Victrix Hub. The triggers auto adjust the max deadzone and have a full register very quickly if no minimum deadzone set in app, something I mentioned as a missing feature. Once set they do work really well. Did you notice a difference with the conteollr being 125hz only?
@@thephototechy ja ich hatte alles probiert. Nein ich habe kein Unterschied im Bezug auf 125hz gemerkt. Je weniger Hz desto mehr oder stärker ist der AIM Assist bei einem Controller, so sind die analogen Algorithmen.
Thats interesting coz for some reason I didn't like linear response curve on BFG at all, Dynamic and standard worked really well. I persnally usually play on lnear and I'm able to find suitable sensitivity with every controller on linear, apart from Elite series 2 and BFG. With Series 2 I thought it was the larger deadzone needed to avoid drift that was the issue, but now I'm thinking it might be the lower polling rate. Then again my screen setup is a factor as well coz I play on a cheap portable monitor currently.@@Alt4i_
What controllers do you recommend for fps games on the xbox? I like the official one but wanna try something new. Looking for one with decent deadzones on the sticks.
Hey so this is a very interesting question. Let me answer it this way, MW3 just came out and as it’s a new game with a bit of different aim feel, one has to play with their best controller. The first controller I played MW3 on Xbox with was thrustmaster EswapS. Now in my review I mentioned the deal breaking issues that controller has, but when it works the performance is truly amazing. Saying that I stated having issues with the EswapS and I found myself playing with the ROG raikiri, again in my review I mentioned it’s downsides as well and didn’t put right recommend the controller, but it seems to have some really decent performance with reliability. If I was looking for a controller with back buttons on Xbox, personally I’d never buy the elite coz of my bad experience, but people seem to really love that controller and you get wireless as well. If wired isn’t an issue, then you need to decide 2 or 4 back buttons. For 2 back buttons I’d say victrix gambit, thrustmaster EswapS the upcoming snakebyte gamepad pro, these are really solid options. If 4 back buttons needed then the only one I can personally recommend in first place would be PowerA fusion pro3 and second place Razer wolverine V2 chroma. Sorry bro I couldn’t give you one controller option as they all have their advantages and disadvantages.
@@thephototechy I really appreciate your answer and will read up on those controllers. Like you said, all controllers have pros and cons and you need to find one that suits your needs. Btw i had one of those xbox elite controllers but it never clicked with me so i gave it to my brother. The stick felt heavy or it was something about the materials used that i didnt like, back buttons was good tho. Have a nice day!
Hi! Just bought the controller. I read about how some people had problems with getting this controller recognized by the controller app on PC. I said to myself :"I bet this will happen to me if I ever decide to buy this controller". So guess what? It happened 😁😁😁 This random shits and issues with Windows are exactly why I have decided to switch to PS5 a while ago. Someone you just want to sit, play and relax instead of spending an hour before that to figure out how to get things to work. I have updated the registry via the link suggested in the help file. Even after that controller is not getting recognized by the app. The main reason I have bought this controller is because the app allows you to set your own custom response and adjust dead zones and I am not able to do that? That sucks 100% Can you tell me if there is something I can still do on my computer or if I need to try to install the bloody app on someone else's computer and hope it will work there? Man, this controller is hours away from being returned to the sender. What a piece of junk !!! And miraculously you have forgot to mention this little, but critical thing in your controller review. Bravo maestro 👀 👀 👀
Hey bro so I tested it on Ps5 only and my laptop was able to recognise the controller with no issues. Have you tried using the dongle and wired connection with the app? Also there is no custom response curve option, only a minimum deadzone option, which can be increased from what seems like a 3% at 0. If you are looking at custom response curve for PS5, then Nacon Rev 5 pro or dual sense edge will be the only ones in my experience.
@@thephototechy Hi there! I have to find a way to make the app to work. I have tried both wired and dongle connection and both of them do not work. Supposingly there might be something else installed one the comp causing this app not to work. I have Lenovo Legion 5. I have read that some people had this issue too. They claim how they weren't able to run the app on their gaming setup, but were able to run it on some shitty, old laptop they had for ages. I mean, who knows, it is the Windows way after all. When it works it works, and when it creates a problem it does it to the max. I bet Bill Gates is the same type of person too. 😁😁😁 Other than that... Main reason I have bought this controller is shitty, little game known as eFootball, made by KONAMI. Till now I have tested controller in practice mode, Superstar level and first impressions are that controller feels amazing!!! But it is way too early to rush with conclusions because this game is well known for feeling completely different once you start to play against AI in Legend mode (not available during practice, go and figure out the reason why, I mean that is so stupid) or against other players. Difference is so drastic that in Practice mode game feels like completely different game. Still based on my previous experience in Practice mode I can tell that the controller feels smoooooth. If you want I can inform you how it feels in other two scenarios once I test it out. Ciao, ciao!!!
@@drq594 hey bro when you say smooth, which other one are you comparing it to? It’s very interesting that you described it as that, coz the controller has ridiculously high resolution of what potentially is 1200 different points from centre to out in one direction. I wonder if in your game you can actually feel this difference coz response wise this is just on or with a standard Xbox series controller.
Oh yes! One more important reason why I have bought this controller... I have noticed that players are more responsive when you control their movement direction via d-Pad. Unfortunately this feels a bit clunky for me when it comes to smoothness of overall movement. Then I saw how this controller has that octagonal shaped ring that physically limits thumbstick max movement. That somehow resembles 8-way directional d-Pad behavior and I can say I was right. It also gives you a much better sense of direction when you are trying to pass or shoot the ball. As a thumbstick falls into one of those corners and you are getting a much better idea of direction in which pass/shot will be performed in.
@@thephototechy I am comparing it to : DualSense, DualSense Edge, Aim "Pro" controller. Avoid the last one at all costs. They take regular DualSense, add some stuff to it, like four extra pedals at the back, known as Spider Arms, which are totally useless the way they build them (totally not ergonomic), they also throw in a life long warranty as a sales pitch and sell the bloody thing at cost of €300 and than an idiot like me comes and throws money away buying that thing, whatever it is, but it ain't controller if you ask me. Basically you will be playing with fancy DualSense that you spent €300 on 😁😁😁 I have tried DualSense Edge too. Did play with available software settings to try to get something known as "edge" (did you get that?), but nothing helped. Basically eFootball is suffering from what I would call a lack of response in a tight situation, it is like your player is getting frozen. Legendary players which you can purchase in game have a bit better responsiveness (smells like a sales pitch to me). It is difficult to explain. The ones who play the game know what I am talking about. With PRO BFG things feel more smooth. For now I only have problems with back buttons that came pre-mapped. To me they feel quite light so I do end up pressing them by mistake from time to time. Would be nice if there is a way to disable them (I still have to check and see if that is possible without the app). Otherwise the placement of these buttons seems to be perfect, definitely not useless like the ones on "Aim" controllers 😜😜😜
do you prefer this over dual sense edge for games like cod or warzone? Hows the durability of triggers/bumpers and rear buttons? I heard that the edge has issue with the rear buttons/paddles if you play FPS all the time.
Hey so I have a decent amount of play time on edge and personally I used the half domed back buttons, it’s actually stood the test of time very well in my case. I have more game time on victrix gambit on Xbox then my edge and the only thing was triggers becoming a bit more sensitive and I had to use minimum deadzones like I showed in this video. I know the shortest setting is a quick trigger press but you get false actuations, so using the second stage with minimum deadzones is the best solution I’ve found. I’ll be doing a head to head after I have some time playing MW3, as playing the beta I realised that game will ask more from our controllers, I felt I had to be a bit more aggressive with the sticks and of course back buttons will get used a lot as well. To me as it stands without back to back tests, if you don’t need 4 back buttons and you are ok with not very good trigger stops on edge, then edge might be the one. I use edge with bumpers for aim and shoot and I have a feeling they’ll give up on me at some point, when we’ll see. If 4 back buttons a must for you then yes this one is a very decent option as I’ve used the Gambit for atleast over 100 hours with no issues, it I’ve seen others having issues with that controller. I’m hoping there’ll be some discounts on the wolverine V2 pro as that one seems like a good option as well, but the price is a bit scary. Still I’m thinking of doing a video comparing all the 4 back buttons options on PS5.
Thanks for your reply. Keep up the good work. I'm always interested in peripheral design and new novel controllers with unique features. Maybe you can start reviewing darkwalker. I hope Lenovo will produce a standalone FPS controller. The joycon and vertical mouse seems like a good option. The problem with PS5 and Xbox more recently is the move at limiting 3rd party peripherals. Subscribed.
I have this controller too and I love it. I have had a couple of problems with it though. I have stick drift, my leg stick drifts from downwards to upwards and vice versa. I only play apex and it’s really annoying. I didn’t know that you can change the dead zone on the software, could you show me how? I haven’t found that option. The other problem I had was that it disconnected the first time I bought this controller (I sent that one back and got a new one) but now it works perfectly. I also play street fighter and the dpad and buttons are like PERFECTION. I was also about to buy the Nacon just because of the Hall effect sticks but would you say it’s worth it? That stick drift from the Victrix is driving me nuts
Hey so in Victrix Hub software, the configure tab has the stick section, its here you can select individual sicks and once highlighted you can press up and down on Dpad to change the deadzones. I'd say definitely do a calibration as well coz wat you are describing shouldn't be happening at all, minor drift is ok but you should be able to nudge the stick back to centre.
@@thephototechy of i push it upwards it goes back to centre when I release it but then it drifts downwards. If I push it downwards and release it it goest to centere again and drifts upwards… it’s weird, whish ik could show it to you
I’m so hyped for the future of 3rd party controllers for Xbox, Xbox is now lifting the wireless lock so 3rd party users can now start licensing “Xbox Protocol” = we will soon see Wireless 3rd party Xbox controllers, give me. Wireless G7 SE 🥳
Hey yes it seems like that’s going to be the big plus for 3rd party wireless controllers on Xbox. Definitely something that’s been missing for some time, let’s see what sort of latency they’ll have.
I have been using the purple version for 4 months have really bad stick drift in right joy stick. Customer service has been pain in the ass to deal with.
Have you managed your get the Xbox version? Would like to hear your thoughts on it! It looks so good but again latency seems to be too high, which is a bummer as I want it for wireless use.
Hey not sure on the Xbox one as it’s also locked to 125hz, honestly feels like a downgrade in performance compared to Gambit, which definitely has one of the quickest aiming responses even with that built in deadzone. I have to purchase all the controllers and decide to get the ones I’d actually feel like I’d use, Xbox BFG just doesn’t feel like one.
@@thephototechyYeah it’s locked to 125 same as the elite 2 I believe? Which is what I use, I’ve tried the gambit, scuff, stealth pro, wolverine v2, all of them basically, but I just can’t get used to any rear buttons, the elite 2 for me is just the best. So using the BFG would mean getting the same response time as the elite 2, do you think pdp can update the response time/wireless dongle to improve this? I’m so tempted to buy it due to the triggers/ rear buttons.
Hey have you tried calibrating the sticks? Also do you feel the stick kinda stay out of centre and need to be nudged a bit to recenter properly? What you describe is not a normal behaviour.
@@thephototechy the stick are in the centre, is the angle of the controller that is weird that make the sticks seems strange. I tried to calibrate the sticks but sometimes it drift and a few moments later it stops. I've opened a ticket on PDP but they answered "we have a lot of requests we will respond asap" it was in August 😂
@@scarredprofessor woah that’s a long time bro, I’d say definitely chase it as it does sound like an issue. I haven’t encountered anything like that, my right stick after use kinda don’t come back to full centre, but still only registers 1-2% so nothing major at all. The controller does have a 2 year warranty and I think you should definitely chase it. Honestly controllers are not being very reliable at the moment.
Yeah man Xbox version is 250 out of box and on pc it can actually be overclocked to 500hz, something very few Xbox controllers can do. I think the 125hz makes a difference as I didn’t like linear response curve at all in COD. I’m going to do some back to back tests to really check if the polling rate is a big disadvantage.
@@cudderlover1216 yes as standard they are. The Razer wolverine V2 pro is 500hz though, and I think PS5 can support that hence Razer used that. I’m thinking of getting that one for a review, but the price hesitates me.
Hey so the third party controllers don’t have a built in mic, I reviewed the Nacon revolution 5 and that comes with a separate mic that can be attached.
I know bro, it’s like every PS5 version is way more premium and Xbox is getting a budget version, same with the Nacon revolution pro x, feel nothing like the revolution 5 pro. I’m also excited for MWiii, just hoping multiplayer is finished and has no connection issues like the beta.
Hey so you might be right. I love the Gambit on Xbox, but for some reason on PS5 in mw3 this controller isn’t performing that well when it domes to aiming, atleast that’s how I’m feeling. I don’t know if the lower polling rate is the cause or something else. I’m going to get MW3 on Xbox and check the gambit to see if what’s going on. I really love the feeling of the favorunion modules in the gambit and BFG, the only other controller with similar feel is the thrustmaster EswapS, but that one uses C&K modules and has a bit different response curve. I’m thinking of getting the Razer wolverine V2 pro for my PS5 and see if that one is a better option, the price of that makes it a very difficult decision.
You always have the most thorough reviews, answers every question I had 🙌
Thanks for the comment bro, helps me a lot.
Congrats for your review 🎉🎉🎉
Finally a guy that gives a controller review based on his in game experience.
Most of the creators out there are more interested about whether the controller casing feels soft or hard than giving a proper review
Hey bro thanks for your support!
I have this controller and it's near a perfect fit for my use case. The only thing it lacks that I still need in a controller of this type is Gyro motion controls and Hall sticks would also be a welcomed addition. Although I've heard they are working on new hall stick modules that we can replace come early 2024.
Hey so Hall effect models have been confirmed by them coming in early 2024. The controller is really good to use, for me the 125hz is a bit of an issue, but I’ll. e doing a back to back with edge and Nacon rev5 on MW3, to really determine if using this one is a disadvantage.
Great in-depth review
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Hey man I just wanted to say I love how thorough and in-depth your reviews are. I would really love it if you decided to review the Razr Wolverine ps5 controller, I'd like to see your thoughts on especially compared to all the other ps5 pro controllers you've reviewed.
My first pro controller. Was tossing between dual sense edge or this. At first, no vibrations, haptics etc. was disappointment. Sensitivity was too high. Got the software, made some adjustments and now gotten used to it. Absolutely love how it performs and feels and will only get an edge in future for sony excluisves or single player games.
controller has potential, if they could use premium materials it could be the best controller on the market. i have one and it's very comfortable and overall good controller. ill be getting another one but with rumble feature xbox version in about 2 months. good review btw
This was such a Great review plus the only one in youtube that actually shows the software in depth. Thanks. Do you know if there is a way to unmap the L3 and R3 buttons so that if you press them by accident while moving the analog sticks nothing happens?
Hey so far the elite series2 is the only one I have that had this capability. I think it’s a much needed feature specially for a 4 back button controller.
Thanks for your videos, waiting for the comparison between it and the Nacon REVOLUTION Pro 5 and Razer Wolverine v2 Pro, If you can please, I have Dualsense EDGE but I need a controller with 4 Back Paddles. Thanks, wish you a good luck ✌️😊
Hey bro I'm really interested in the Razer as well, to me it's looking like an amazing option. I started using my wolverine V2 chroma again, just to see if I can get used to the shape. I'm hoping to get the Wolverine V2 pro but the price scares me every time lol. You see every purchase decision is kinda based for potential videos as well and I'm not sure how much demand for a thorough Wolverine V2 review would be out there. Still for me personally its looking like a good option for MW3.
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To be honest with you, I saw many reviews about the Razer Wolverine v2 Pro but some people they love it & some not, because of the 4 Back paddles position and quality. but you can remap 6 buttons. It’s helpful really to remap 6 buttons, I play only Ranked in Call of Duty MWII/III and Apex Legends and to play Pro you must have 4 paddles.
Anyway, I’m waiting for the Victrix and Nacon video. Wish you good luck 😊
Hey, thanks for your videos! I really like your reviewing style. May I ask what you are currently using as your main controller on the PS5 platform? Thanks again!
Quick question...
When you do stuff like adjust trigger min dead zone on PC app do that settings get saved in controller, thus transferred over to PS5?
Yea bro yes they do and honestly a sorta must, coz the triggers can become sensitive after use. Right now I use the second shortest settings with some min deadzones as to not accidentally press them.
Hi again!
Now I have a bit of experience with BFG and despite its flaws that unfortunately exist I am willing to say: "I love this controller".
I did a bit of research in regards to not being able to use its app on Windows 11. Supposedly it is possible to install Windows 10 in a virtual box and then run the controller app on it. I am planning to test this for the weekend.
Another alternative would be to in possession of an extra computer that is a bit older and still runs on Windows 10. Then you could simply use a controller app on that comp. Also I have added a slight modification to the controller.
Whaaaaat, already!!!?
😂😂😂
It is applied in a way that allows me to keep the controller in its original shape.
I know how you are mostly playing FPS, so I don't know if this info will be useful to you, but here we go. I am using the left thumbstick in PS
configuration/orientation and I have mounted an attachment on top of existing thumbstick (the highest one that comes as spare part) to slightly more than double stick overall height. In a game that I play the most, eFootball, this allows me to get much finer control over the movement of the players (really small/delicate movement).
As you have mentioned, BFG has a larger number of zones in comparison to Edge so my guess is that the longer lever allows me to achieve a really fine control over the amount of movement applied. I have tested this in an out and for me it really works.
This controller really has some potential and I cherish it much more than I have ever cherished my ex Edge or Aim controller. That is why I no longer have them in my possession.
Unfortunately the controller comes with some flaws and they can be a big minus for some people. Depending on how you like to grab the controller it is possible that sometimes by an accident you might deactivate the depth set for your adaptive triggers. Also controller configurable buttons at the back are too light in my opinion so I keep them disabled to avoid accidental activations. Triggers suffer from the same weakness. Still it is possible to adjust the dead zone for them and kinda avoid this to be an issue, if you can install the bloody app. 😝😝😝
Despite all its flaws, for what it is, I am still willing to say that I like this controller far more than Edge. It sounds like I hate Edge.
Not true, I just think how Sony could do much more with their controller.
What they have right now in my opinion is just a slightly improved DualSense version, kinda like tax for fools that are willing to pay extra
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Best regards
Just tested the mentioned setup in Star Wars Battlefront (another game that I play quite frequently).
Holly F!!!
You have to try this and give me your opinion (you can apply the same setup for the right thumbstick too).
As mentioned in mine case height equal to slightly higher than double from higher exchangeable stick provided by manufacturer works like a charm 😊
@@drq594 hey I do use the so called sniper stick as times with kontrolfreeks no slip grip on it. Kontrol let definitely has a lot of potential, specially when PDP release their own Hall effect modules for it. Im very keen to see which modules they’ll end up using and how they’ll work.
@@thephototechy
Hi!
Can you share more info about the mentioned sniper stick?
I have kit bashed extension I am using from an old dual sense thumbstick (just a stick body that sits on top of the potentiometer housing). It would be easier if it is possible to simply buy an extension that is a bit longer since I have no spare parts left.
Thanks
@@drq594 hey I meant the extra long thumbstick top that comes with the controller. It’s haven’t tried to install a totally different top m the module itself.
@@thephototechy
You should try to do just that. It is like having a whole new level of accuracy, I swear I am not making this up. I am also using that extra long thumbstick but on top of it I have mounted an old dual sense thumbstick, top black part that fits onto the potentiometer body. So now I have just a little bit more twice of a thumbstick height from what you have. I don't have very long fingers but still with thumbsticks in PS layout it is comfortable to use the controller. You must try this!
I have already looked for possible extensions that can be bought online, but nothing at that high is available, so I guess I will have to buy some spare parts online and build one more extension for the right thumbstick. Yesterday I tried an existing extension in Star Wars Battlefront (FPS). It was amazing!
Anyhow it is up to you.
Best regards
Schönes video, danke dafur. Ich bin leider mit den Triggern nicht klar gekommen. Ich habe sie nocht enstellen können und ausversehen immer ausgelöst bei CoD und in Warzone war es ein riesen nogo fur mich und meine Teammates. Alles andere hat siper gepasst, vor allem die Form des Controllers. Ich tendiere zum neuen Nacon, aber den habe ich noch nicht.
Hey so the way I'm using it is on second trigger stop with 15 minimum deadzone set in Victrix Hub. The triggers auto adjust the max deadzone and have a full register very quickly if no minimum deadzone set in app, something I mentioned as a missing feature. Once set they do work really well. Did you notice a difference with the conteollr being 125hz only?
@@thephototechy ja ich hatte alles probiert. Nein ich habe kein Unterschied im Bezug auf 125hz gemerkt. Je weniger Hz desto mehr oder stärker ist der AIM Assist bei einem Controller, so sind die analogen Algorithmen.
Thats interesting coz for some reason I didn't like linear response curve on BFG at all, Dynamic and standard worked really well. I persnally usually play on lnear and I'm able to find suitable sensitivity with every controller on linear, apart from Elite series 2 and BFG. With Series 2 I thought it was the larger deadzone needed to avoid drift that was the issue, but now I'm thinking it might be the lower polling rate. Then again my screen setup is a factor as well coz I play on a cheap portable monitor currently.@@Alt4i_
@@thephototechy yes i feel the same and i anderstand what you mean
Do you know when the gamepad pro x will come out on Amazon? They said November 3rd but it still isn't out.
Hey so these are now showing as shipping end of November on their website.
Ok thanks, I'm assuming that's like from nov 20-25 ish
What controllers do you recommend for fps games on the xbox? I like the official one but wanna try something new. Looking for one with decent deadzones on the sticks.
Hey so this is a very interesting question. Let me answer it this way, MW3 just came out and as it’s a new game with a bit of different aim feel, one has to play with their best controller. The first controller I played MW3 on Xbox with was thrustmaster EswapS. Now in my review I mentioned the deal breaking issues that controller has, but when it works the performance is truly amazing. Saying that I stated having issues with the EswapS and I found myself playing with the ROG raikiri, again in my review I mentioned it’s downsides as well and didn’t put right recommend the controller, but it seems to have some really decent performance with reliability.
If I was looking for a controller with back buttons on Xbox, personally I’d never buy the elite coz of my bad experience, but people seem to really love that controller and you get wireless as well. If wired isn’t an issue, then you need to decide 2 or 4 back buttons. For 2 back buttons I’d say victrix gambit, thrustmaster EswapS the upcoming snakebyte gamepad pro, these are really solid options. If 4 back buttons needed then the only one I can personally recommend in first place would be PowerA fusion pro3 and second place Razer wolverine V2 chroma. Sorry bro I couldn’t give you one controller option as they all have their advantages and disadvantages.
@@thephototechy I really appreciate your answer and will read up on those controllers. Like you said, all controllers have pros and cons and you need to find one that suits your needs. Btw i had one of those xbox elite controllers but it never clicked with me so i gave it to my brother. The stick felt heavy or it was something about the materials used that i didnt like, back buttons was good tho. Have a nice day!
I love the feel of this controller but my triggers are too sensitive. I have them set to 0 on the app but it doesn’t help.
Hey have you tried calibrating the triggers? I’d say use the second trigger stop position and add a bit minimum deadzone, this worked for me
Hi!
Just bought the controller. I read about how some people had problems with getting this controller recognized by the controller app on PC.
I said to myself :"I bet this will happen to me if I ever decide to buy this controller". So guess what? It happened 😁😁😁
This random shits and issues with Windows are exactly why I have decided to switch to PS5 a while ago. Someone you just want to sit, play and relax instead of spending an hour before that to figure out how to get things to work. I have updated the registry via the link suggested in the help file. Even after that controller is not getting recognized by the app. The main reason I have bought this controller is because the app allows you to set your own custom response and adjust dead zones and I am not able to do that? That sucks 100%
Can you tell me if there is something I can still do on my computer or if I need to try to install the bloody app on someone else's computer and hope it will work there?
Man, this controller is hours away from being returned to the sender.
What a piece of junk !!!
And miraculously you have forgot to mention this little, but critical thing in your controller review.
Bravo maestro 👀 👀 👀
Hey bro so I tested it on Ps5 only and my laptop was able to recognise the controller with no issues. Have you tried using the dongle and wired connection with the app? Also there is no custom response curve option, only a minimum deadzone option, which can be increased from what seems like a 3% at 0. If you are looking at custom response curve for PS5, then Nacon Rev 5 pro or dual sense edge will be the only ones in my experience.
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Hi there!
I have to find a way to make the app to work.
I have tried both wired and dongle connection and both of them do not work. Supposingly there might be something else installed one the comp causing this app not to work. I have Lenovo Legion 5.
I have read that some people had this issue too. They claim how they weren't able to run the app on their gaming setup, but were able to run it on some shitty, old laptop they had for ages. I mean, who knows, it is the Windows way after all. When it works it works, and when it creates a problem it does it to the max. I bet Bill Gates is the same type of person too. 😁😁😁
Other than that...
Main reason I have bought this controller is shitty, little game known as eFootball, made by KONAMI.
Till now I have tested controller in practice mode, Superstar level and first impressions are that controller feels amazing!!!
But it is way too early to rush with conclusions because this game is well known for feeling completely different once you start to play against AI in Legend mode (not available during practice, go and figure out the reason why, I mean that is so stupid) or against other players. Difference is so drastic that in Practice mode game feels like completely different game. Still based on my previous experience in Practice mode I can tell that the controller feels smoooooth.
If you want I can inform you how it feels in other two scenarios once I test it out.
Ciao, ciao!!!
@@drq594 hey bro when you say smooth, which other one are you comparing it to? It’s very interesting that you described it as that, coz the controller has ridiculously high resolution of what potentially is 1200 different points from centre to out in one direction. I wonder if in your game you can actually feel this difference coz response wise this is just on or with a standard Xbox series controller.
Oh yes!
One more important reason why I have bought this controller...
I have noticed that players are more responsive when you control their movement direction via d-Pad. Unfortunately this feels a bit clunky for me when it comes to smoothness of overall movement. Then I saw how this controller has that octagonal shaped ring that physically limits thumbstick max movement. That somehow resembles 8-way directional d-Pad behavior and I can say I was right. It also gives you a much better sense of direction when you are trying to pass or shoot the ball. As a thumbstick falls into one of those corners and you are getting a much better idea of direction in which pass/shot will be performed in.
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I am comparing it to :
DualSense, DualSense Edge, Aim "Pro" controller. Avoid the last one at all costs.
They take regular DualSense, add some stuff to it, like four extra pedals at the back, known as Spider Arms, which are totally useless the way they build them (totally not ergonomic), they also throw in a life long warranty as a sales pitch and sell the bloody thing at cost of €300 and than an idiot like me comes and throws money away buying that thing, whatever it is, but it ain't controller if you ask me. Basically you will be playing with fancy DualSense that you spent €300 on
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I have tried DualSense Edge too. Did play with available software settings to try to get something known as "edge" (did you get that?), but nothing helped.
Basically eFootball is suffering from what I would call a lack of response in a tight situation, it is like your player is getting frozen. Legendary players which you can purchase in game have a bit better responsiveness (smells like a sales pitch to me). It is difficult to explain. The ones who play the game know what I am talking about. With PRO BFG things feel more smooth. For now I only have problems with back buttons that came pre-mapped. To me they feel quite light so I do end up pressing them by mistake from time to time. Would be nice if there is a way to disable them (I still have to check and see if that is possible without the app). Otherwise the placement of these buttons seems to be perfect, definitely not useless like the ones on "Aim" controllers 😜😜😜
do you prefer this over dual sense edge for games like cod or warzone? Hows the durability of triggers/bumpers and rear buttons? I heard that the edge has issue with the rear buttons/paddles if you play FPS all the time.
Hey so I have a decent amount of play time on edge and personally I used the half domed back buttons, it’s actually stood the test of time very well in my case. I have more game time on victrix gambit on Xbox then my edge and the only thing was triggers becoming a bit more sensitive and I had to use minimum deadzones like I showed in this video. I know the shortest setting is a quick trigger press but you get false actuations, so using the second stage with minimum deadzones is the best solution I’ve found. I’ll be doing a head to head after I have some time playing MW3, as playing the beta I realised that game will ask more from our controllers, I felt I had to be a bit more aggressive with the sticks and of course back buttons will get used a lot as well.
To me as it stands without back to back tests, if you don’t need 4 back buttons and you are ok with not very good trigger stops on edge, then edge might be the one. I use edge with bumpers for aim and shoot and I have a feeling they’ll give up on me at some point, when we’ll see. If 4 back buttons a must for you then yes this one is a very decent option as I’ve used the Gambit for atleast over 100 hours with no issues, it I’ve seen others having issues with that controller.
I’m hoping there’ll be some discounts on the wolverine V2 pro as that one seems like a good option as well, but the price is a bit scary. Still I’m thinking of doing a video comparing all the 4 back buttons options on PS5.
Thanks for your reply. Keep up the good work. I'm always interested in peripheral design and new novel controllers with unique features. Maybe you can start reviewing darkwalker. I hope Lenovo will produce a standalone FPS controller. The joycon and vertical mouse seems like a good option. The problem with PS5 and Xbox more recently is the move at limiting 3rd party peripherals. Subscribed.
The dual sense is no good only 2 paddle and eveyyime i shoot on wz i accident press the paddle and gets me kill. Paddle is too sensitive. Not for me
I have this controller too and I love it. I have had a couple of problems with it though. I have stick drift, my leg stick drifts from downwards to upwards and vice versa. I only play apex and it’s really annoying. I didn’t know that you can change the dead zone on the software, could you show me how? I haven’t found that option.
The other problem I had was that it disconnected the first time I bought this controller (I sent that one back and got a new one) but now it works perfectly.
I also play street fighter and the dpad and buttons are like PERFECTION.
I was also about to buy the Nacon just because of the Hall effect sticks but would you say it’s worth it? That stick drift from the Victrix is driving me nuts
Hey so in Victrix Hub software, the configure tab has the stick section, its here you can select individual sicks and once highlighted you can press up and down on Dpad to change the deadzones. I'd say definitely do a calibration as well coz wat you are describing shouldn't be happening at all, minor drift is ok but you should be able to nudge the stick back to centre.
@@thephototechy of i push it upwards it goes back to centre when I release it but then it drifts downwards. If I push it downwards and release it it goest to centere again and drifts upwards… it’s weird, whish ik could show it to you
I’m so hyped for the future of 3rd party controllers for Xbox, Xbox is now lifting the wireless lock so 3rd party users can now start licensing “Xbox Protocol” = we will soon see Wireless 3rd party Xbox controllers, give me. Wireless G7 SE 🥳
Hey yes it seems like that’s going to be the big plus for 3rd party wireless controllers on Xbox. Definitely something that’s been missing for some time, let’s see what sort of latency they’ll have.
I have been using the purple version for 4 months have really bad stick drift in right joy stick. Customer service has been pain in the ass to deal with.
Have you managed your get the Xbox version? Would like to hear your thoughts on it! It looks so good but again latency seems to be too high, which is a bummer as I want it for wireless use.
Hey not sure on the Xbox one as it’s also locked to 125hz, honestly feels like a downgrade in performance compared to Gambit, which definitely has one of the quickest aiming responses even with that built in deadzone. I have to purchase all the controllers and decide to get the ones I’d actually feel like I’d use, Xbox BFG just doesn’t feel like one.
@@thephototechyYeah it’s locked to 125 same as the elite 2 I believe? Which is what I use, I’ve tried the gambit, scuff, stealth pro, wolverine v2, all of them basically, but I just can’t get used to any rear buttons, the elite 2 for me is just the best. So using the BFG would mean getting the same response time as the elite 2, do you think pdp can update the response time/wireless dongle to improve this? I’m so tempted to buy it due to the triggers/ rear buttons.
Sometimes even with the deadzone setted in the app it still drift but only for some seconds and than start to work properly. It's a bit weird
Hey have you tried calibrating the sticks? Also do you feel the stick kinda stay out of centre and need to be nudged a bit to recenter properly? What you describe is not a normal behaviour.
@@thephototechy the stick are in the centre, is the angle of the controller that is weird that make the sticks seems strange. I tried to calibrate the sticks but sometimes it drift and a few moments later it stops. I've opened a ticket on PDP but they answered "we have a lot of requests we will respond asap" it was in August 😂
@@scarredprofessor woah that’s a long time bro, I’d say definitely chase it as it does sound like an issue. I haven’t encountered anything like that, my right stick after use kinda don’t come back to full centre, but still only registers 1-2% so nothing major at all. The controller does have a 2 year warranty and I think you should definitely chase it. Honestly controllers are not being very reliable at the moment.
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How is the polling rates worse than the Xbox version?!? That's wild to me
Yeah man Xbox version is 250 out of box and on pc it can actually be overclocked to 500hz, something very few Xbox controllers can do. I think the 125hz makes a difference as I didn’t like linear response curve at all in COD. I’m going to do some back to back tests to really check if the polling rate is a big disadvantage.
@@thephototechy yeah it's crazy cuz PS4 controllers are 250 aren't they?
@@cudderlover1216 yes as standard they are. The Razer wolverine V2 pro is 500hz though, and I think PS5 can support that hence Razer used that. I’m thinking of getting that one for a review, but the price hesitates me.
Is there still no way to increase the 125hz for the PS5?
is there a mic here when i plug in my headset?
Hey so the third party controllers don’t have a built in mic, I reviewed the Nacon revolution 5 and that comes with a separate mic that can be attached.
If you could swap between the PS5 and Xbox versions it might be worth but I doubt it but I'm going to save up enough to buy 5 to see if I can
No bluetooth!!! I had to pass on this controller. I wanted it so bad for my steam deck.
Better than the xbox version, i wish they relase this on the xbox
Mwiii is almost here, i can't wait
I know bro, it’s like every PS5 version is way more premium and Xbox is getting a budget version, same with the Nacon revolution pro x, feel nothing like the revolution 5 pro.
I’m also excited for MWiii, just hoping multiplayer is finished and has no connection issues like the beta.
W review, L controller
Hey so you might be right. I love the Gambit on Xbox, but for some reason on PS5 in mw3 this controller isn’t performing that well when it domes to aiming, atleast that’s how I’m feeling. I don’t know if the lower polling rate is the cause or something else. I’m going to get MW3 on Xbox and check the gambit to see if what’s going on. I really love the feeling of the favorunion modules in the gambit and BFG, the only other controller with similar feel is the thrustmaster EswapS, but that one uses C&K modules and has a bit different response curve. I’m thinking of getting the Razer wolverine V2 pro for my PS5 and see if that one is a better option, the price of that makes it a very difficult decision.