Think about it LeBron and D-Wade mocking Dirk who had flu-like symptoms and then you proceed to lose the next 3 games. At that time you hadn’t won anything! I’m sure the fanboys will come with excuses for this as well as straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks.
One thing many of his fans don't mention is that he played mostly in the Eastern conference which just happened to be quite weak most of the time. He would very likely play in fewer finals if playing in the wild wild West
Guess I’ll be everyone’s thorn in their side here and say these few things. 1) the “strength of conference” argument is absolutely irrelevant because he dominated the conference like he was supposed to! Even in 2018 when it looked like he would fail because his team was bad HE STILL WON THE CONFERENCE! Also idc how weak a conference is winning it for 8 straight years is unheard of unless your name was Bill Russell. 2) then you use the “Wild West” argument like he didn’t WIN A TITLE the year the lakers actually built a proper roster around him! Sure you can say he missed the first year when he was injured for 27 games or the Russell Westbrook year, but outside of injuries and TERRIBLE front office decisions he’s barely minimum getting into the playoffs. 3) to directly address the “he would’ve won less if he played in the west” actually might not be true at all! So you’re telling me if he went to San Antonio he would’ve won less? Or if he would’ve been drafted by let’s say the Grizzled with Pau he would’ve won less? We don’t know that and if anything I think he’d had MUCH better help than when he was in Cleveland from 04-10 where he STILL went to the finals
@@lemonscentedgames3641but he won a title his second year and made the playoffs 3/5 times despite most of them battling injuries. Not a good measuring tape for a younger Lebron wouldn’t you say?😊
"Absolutley destroy" He dropped 26 on 42 fg percentage. Bit of an overstatment there. If Giannis or Jokic were to put up those scoring numbers in the finals, theyd get clowned
Nobody in Cleveland celebrated stipes title as the end of the title drought. The Cleveland curse was lifted when Lebron beat the warriors and fulfilled his prophecy of being the chosen one
@@chuckoblake8232 not a fact at all. The curse always referred to the 3 major sports teams, cavs, Indians and browns. Stipe could have won 15 title matches in a row and no one would have said the curse was lifted because it has nothing to do with professional fighting. Stipe doesn’t represent Cleveland when he fights he represents himself just like every other fighter. You can hate on Lebron all you want but he one hundred percent gets the credit for breaking the curse. Not a single person here in Cleveland will tell you stipe gets the credit
Not a single person gives a fuck what Clealanders think bro. Stipe won a world title in May then when the pressure was off Bron pull his shit off in June FACT. Pro fighting may hold the same weight it used to, still the first title to land in Cleveland.
@@chuckoblake8232 and nobody in Cleveland gives a fuck what your dumbass thinks. If the Cavs didn’t win the championship the drought would still exist. If you want live in your own little fantasy world because you hate Lebron so much go for it but your only making yourself look stupid
That’s exactly what I think keeps him from being the GOAT. Whenever he fails, it’s always “He needs more help!” Just ask yourself, did anyone ever say that about Jordan? Hell, Jordan didn’t even give us the opportunity to make excuses for him.
LeBron James is likely to be heavily criticized after he retires, which I eagerly anticipate. He is likely to be considered the most quickly forgotten "GOAT" (Greatest Of All Time) in history. 🤣
It's probably why he's not retiring right now. He probably thinks he can create one last superteam to get him rings 5 and 6. But the longer he stays, the more exposed his career becomes to his bullshit with how the NBA gifts the Lakers more free throws, with how they create a stupid mid season tournament with scrubs to give him a fake banner and even snubbing AD from the MVP in that stupid, meaningless tournament. Yet when his team loses, it's his teammates' fault. When his team wins, "that there made me the greatest of all time." Fuck that. I can't wait for this clown to leave.
I’ll be so glad when he shuts it down because at this point all he’s doing is padding his stats for his claim to be the greatest. His overall stats are great but he still doesn’t have the hardware. He’s a joke at this point to me. Team sucks and he’s not doing anything to fix it
They won together...i dont see where is the problem...furthermore phil jackson's first season as head coach was the 1989-1990 season, the one prior the bulls first ever nba championship
I don’t even know why we entertain and normalize the conversation of him being even in top 5. When was the moment he passed magic, Kobe etc.. the biggest propaganda known in sports
LeBron James has LOST the MOST GAMES in NBA FINALS HISTORY with 33 GAMES LOST. On the other hand, Michael Jordan has lost ONLY 11 games in the NBA Finals. LeBron James HAS THE MOST TURNOVERS in NBA HISTORY with OVER 5,100 TURNOVERS. On the other hand, Michael Jordan has only 2,974 turnovers.
Remember when the NBA was about winning? Russell's 11 rings in 13 seasons. Jordan's 6 rings in 13 seasons. Magic's 5 rings in 12 seasons. Lebron has 4 rings in 21 seasons and knew he couldn't catch these legends so he's gone the stat pad route. All his mouthpieces in the media praise his stats these days. It's all they talk about. Even his 4 rings are sus because 2 of them came in shortened seasons. Kyrie bailed him out after the NBA suspended Draymond. A ridiculous suspension that only happened to help the Cavs. No foul or tech was called on Dray but he gets suspended lmao. Ray Allen bailed him out too obviously. And the biggest fluke in sports history, the mickey mouse bubble. The Lakers haven't sniffed the finals with Lebron before or after that "championship." And no one talks about AD firing his agent, signing with Klutch Sports, then says he'll only accept a trade to the Lakers. Obvious tampering went on there. Lastly, there is the PED use. Anyone with a brain knows this guy is on something. Every athlete ever declines at age 35+ and the only ones who didn't were caught using PEDs. One of Lebron's inner circle, Tristian Thompson, gets popped for PED use and the media reports on it for 2 mins that day and never speaks about it again. KG says "He's on that Balco. He's on that new juice" and the media said nothing. Didn't even cover it. Chael Sonnen brings it up and same thing, the media ignores it. The media knows he's using PEDs but they'll never ever cover it.
LeBron, his minions, and his fanboys have done a great job burying the fact that he had to run and form a super team to get a ring. He stacked the deck in his favor to win. Same thing KD did. But KD gets more hate because his Super Team took rings off of LeBron.
@@TheCosmosAwaits He also had phil jackson, arguably the greatest coach? and the greatest gm? Do tell... how many rings does lebron's coaches have without him on the roster... Let alone the gm's lebron had to deal with. in fact every single ring that lebron achieved, wasn't it due to the team he put around himself? Whereas mj.... well we already have proof of his competency as a gm No I don't think lebron is the goat, and I don't care where he ranks. But I do find it funny the lengths people go to discredit the guy. Admire greatness, and just get on with your life.
The cost of Lebron James tarnishing his career $75 million dollars. The cost of running into a video that used the old unforgivable RUclips video as a reference… Priceless 🤙🏾
There's no doubt that LeBron's career will end with a HoF placement. However, his claim as the GOAT will never be realized. His body of work doesn't really transcend into the GOAT conversation and those who believe that it does either don't value winning and accolades as the prime standard or are simply too far gone in their fanboyism that they cannot be persuaded any longer.
I mean it kinda does, 4 rings, 4 MVPs, 4 finals MVP’s, 20 all stars, 20 all NBA’s, I mean that sounds like he has a goat case. Not saying he is but that certainly is an argument.
LeBron's insane fan base is all about individual stats. Going by their own standards Wilt Chambrerlain is still the GOAT. He holds the most individual records in NBA history. It's not even close.
Rookie of the Year, two steal titles, two-time dunk champion, two-time gold medals in the Olympics, 10 time scoring champ, NCAA champion, college player of the year, six championships, 2 - 3 p e a t s in 8 years and undefeated in finals appearance for the championship, six Finals MVP, three All-Star MVPs, College MVP, 14 X All-Star........ every year he played, 10x all NBA first team, all NBA second team, it gets redundant but I could go on and on........ the true goat and what LeBron inspires to be when he grows up
His legacy was dead the moment he said he was the goat. No goat says he is the goat, He lets others say that for them and give reasons why. The goat can say that they are the best of that era, that's confidence, not arrogance if you can back it up by actions.
@@StFigarlandGarling where did he say it? Because I've only heard him say it's not up to him to say that. And that it's disrespectful to greats that came before him, that he didn't have the chance to play against.
@StFigarlandGarling Lie, lie,lie. He has said on many occasions he cringes when people mention him as GOAT. Straight up lie, and you probably know it.
@@josephpetrick6269that’s just not true, LeBron literally has more everything than Larry. More rings, more finals MVP’s, more all stars, more all nbas, more MVP’s, more points, more assists, more rebounds, legit he does everything better.
I think what ultimately ruined his legacy was just not letting his career play out without having his friends doing the commentary, and constantly shoving this idea that he belongs in the goat debate down our throats. I mean honestly today it feels like the only ones that like him or people that are signed to clutch sports and his super fans the people that are Stans for him. Like I wouldn’t even have a problem with jumping from superteam to super team if after he wins a championship with basically an All-Star team behind him and then the next day, I have to get told how much better he is than Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. I’m sorry, but if you’re going to stack the deck that high And take that many shortcuts and then have the audacity to pay people to get on television and tell us that you’re better than Mike is what people have the problem with. Like 10 years ago I think a lot more people liked him than they do now but I think now, especially since all of this slander towards Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant keeps coming from clutch sports to make him look better. He’s totally made an enemy out of anyone that has respect for the legacies of people that have played this sport . Like I never thought he was the goat, but there was a time I liked him I would defend him. I was even happy when he came to the Lakers. I bought a LeBron James number 23 jersey. I even celebrated the bubble championship. But what ruined it for me was it felt like the bubble championship the disrespect to Kobe Bryant that were coming from people that were signed to clutch sports is what made me just say forget this guy. Any real Laker fan that has been a member of Laker nation for decades, and knows what’s going on as far as clutch sports goes, and LeBron James, none of us are happy with him. You can’t go around disrespecting Laker grades, and all you’ve done in a Laker uniform is a bubble championship in an in season tournament that was designed for him to win because everyone in their brother knew by the time the playoffs came around he wasn’t going to be in the finals again so they want to decorate this man up as much as possible. But I really do think he wouldn’t have these back door deals with the NBA and ESPN and Fox Sports to where we’ve constantly being forced to listen to another goat debate in favor of LeBron. I mean for crying out loud it can be the middle of August, and the only thing happening in the sports world is baseball and you can probably turn on ESPN and they’re having a goat debate for the NBA. I mean, the experiment has failed. It’s not like you’re going to change anyone’s mind in the next two seasons. The plan to make him the goat the media trying to convince people of it has failed miserably. I think even with the super teams people would’ve respected him so much more if he would’ve just let his career do the talking instead of , all of his friends who are signed to his company, constantly disrespecting legends, who worked harder and were more skilled, and had less help in tougher conferences than him.
Thank you for posting this. This is what I tell Bron fans. He couldn't win by himself. He isn't a competitor. He's a ring chaser. He's also extremely arrogant and tries to ruin the legacy of true competitors.
Not only past legends, but him and his friends in the media constantly character assasinating his team mates and formner teammates just to get make him Look good.
I don't care if he is gready or egocentric, to me the big problem is that the guy has no footwork, has poor handles, he is a poor shooter, every night he is traveling without getting calls, his teams have mysteriously way way way more free throws than the opponents and lastly the flopping and the fact that he owns an sports/media agency, with literally "media" seeds talking in his behalf... Then what about the stero*ds? I never have I ever looked at him playing and I feel like I was watching the best ever.. or the second or the third... I don't think he was better than Duncan or Nowitzky, I don't think he was better than a healthy T-Mac, I don't think he is better than Nikola Jokic and definitely he is not even in the same stratosphere as Stephen Curry, Kobe nor MJ.
Dudes whole narrative is a house of cards.. it can topple at any moment…incredible talent but not in my top of the top… MJ Kobe Magic Larry and Iverson
@@Quack_attack_ if he had the killer mentality he’d be in the convo for me… he’s soft and it’s obvious to anyone who has sense.. it shows in his decisions and how he plays…
@@Quack_attack_ agree with this 100%, tbh I rank curry ahead of him due to the fact that he's 3-1 against this self-proclaimed king/goat - I can also attest that curry championship in 2022 is greater than lbj's 4 rings
Ledookie technically only has one real ring and that’s the down 1-3 comeback. The Miami ones don’t count because he ruined the competitiveness by joining wade and bosh and that Mickey Mouse ring also doesn’t
Technically? What a weird argument, if you feel like the MIA rings are valued less, then cool, pandemic which no one had control over, sure, I guess, but to get so butthurt because you hate LeBron and saying "tEcHniCal1y OnE RiNg" is mad weird, dude.
nah, for me that championship he had has a big asterisk to it, that fishy suspension of green and bogut's injury did toppled that series straight up- warriors were the greater team that series and it's not even close - warriors could've won in 5 and heck even a sweep if that game 3 was officiated fairly (game 3 was rigged AF, cavs shot 21 freaking freethrows just in the 1st quarter alone and most of their starters were in foul trouble), so yeah, tell me if that's a LEGIT way of winning a championship
The nba is a business. Lebron left Cleveland the first time because they couldn’t build a team around him. He made a choice like all of us would leave for a better situation.
@@Chuck_EL o yea right right I almost forgot about Dat part bro.. see how shit works out like Dat lol 😆 yea LeBron is really jus a strate up bitch I hate the league now I miss da early 2000's
Love you channel name!!!! Thank you MJ for saying that. That's how real ballers roll! Lebron is looking for the easy way out, all the time. Yet, he wears his real hero's number 23! LOL That chart you showed comparing these stats was totally awesome! 6 rings to 4, etc. Wow. Well done, bro. I thought Dwade had more class than that. SMH
Great video and finally someone talking not only about the comparison with MJ (which is absurd in itself), but as you pointed out even just by comparing LeBron to Duncan he gets bitten up! C'mon the guy can play another 10 years and keep moving from one super team to the next and even win 2 more titles, but the point is that nobody in the history of the NBA did that, and it's not a compliment, even if Sharpe, Wright and other mental incapacitated media personalities keep saying that that's the reason why he's the Goat he's not. He's is the Goat of mercenaries and the first words of MJ are the main reason why the vast majority can't respect LeBron or see him as the Goat after what he did in 2010 as nobody would respect MJ if after 1990 being bitten again by Detroit, asked to be transfered to the Lakers to join Magic and Worthy to win titles, that's not the right way to win, there is no struggle in doing that!
1. Leaving for Miami 2. “After that i was the greatest of all time” 3. 8 pts in the 2011 NBA Finals 4. Swept in the NBA Finals Twice 5. Team Hopped 6. Flopping 7. Other Stars beat him for Titles. That’s about it for me. He’s one of the greats NO DOUBT. Tbh i didn’t mind him leaving CLE best of how bad the management was. They didn’t want to give it JJ Hickson for Stoudermire from the suns 😂 That’s would make anyone leave.
My friend. You gave perfect examples of why he is not the greatest player of all time. However I do think that James is the most complete player. He can score, handle the ball like a point guard, and he can pass and rebound. His defense has been declining as he ages. But at his best. James was a good and diverse defender. And he always keeps himself in good condition. In my opinion personally. I just don't trust him at the free throw line in critical situations. He's a complete player. But like you stated earlier. He just made some bad decisions. Also a no show in the finals really hurt.
Le-pergamous James has a history of boasting, whenever he thinks he has artificially, manufactured the clear, advantage. That's why it's hilarious whenever, his shortcuts fall flat. 😂
Tbh, I don't even count him in my Top 10 of all time. 3 superteam rings and a bubble ring don't mean much. And, he got swept a lot of times and won bronze in the olympics.
MJ had to wait several years for Scottie to develop and lose to Detroit. When Scottie was ready, the rolled of 6 of em. 1 all star, top guy, all he ever had. Ran 2nd 3peat when he cam back with a whole new team he had never played with.
this is exactly what I've been saying for years! if LeBron want to be in the goat conversation, he should first turn back the time and never leave Cleveland. it's about legacy, not records
For anyone claiming the Cavs did not surround LeBron with help in 2010 (his 7th season): Michael Jordan only had Scottie Pippen (17.8ppg) and Horace Grant (12.8ppg) averaging more than 10 points per game in his 7th season during which he won his first championship.
The fact that he left and created 3 super teams invalidates him from the Goat title. Wade and bosh in Miami. Kyrie and love in Cleveland. Davis and Westbrook in LA.
Its always fascinating for me as someone who doesnt watch nor enjoy sports to see little videos like this that highlight sport culture. Like how can this dude claim to be the greatest? Dont others have more rings than him and did so in a much quicker fashion? It makes no sense but is incredibly funny from the outside looking in. A grown man wants the world to know he can put a ball in a hoop the best.
The fact he joined because kobe was dominating and winning chips is insane. And like 2 days ago Chris Paul was joining that Miami Heat also but something happened with Chris Paul so he didn't joined them.
Garnett said something about some new shit he on 😂😂😂 And not showing up for Kobe's statue ceremony... LeGone legacy really went South beach since the decision.
What legacy?hopping from one team to another?who i think would have a hard time winning championship,without going to an already champion team or build a team of superstars😂😂😂
Lebron and Heat were expected to win it all. It is so funny because there are some arguments that says that 2011 Mavs was also a superteam that's why they won (LOL). KD did the same thing but they hated him for it. Most will say what he did was different but it is the same thing. Both of them joined forces with another superstar to win a championship. They hated KD because it worked for him from year one. That GSW team is almost unbeatable until the injuries.
I was watching the Lakers vs the Warriors the other day. I didn't even realize there was a super star in the game. The NBA is so boring anymore. I really wish someone would be somewhat as exciting to watch as Michael Jordan.
The thing I hate , is lebron fans have to tear down other greats , or their eras to prop up Lebrons legacy . And how dare you not put lebron number 1 n your top 10… they think it’s disrespectful .
Athletic top 10 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic Johnson 6. Wilt Chamberlain 7. Larry Bird 8. Shaquille O'Neal 9. Tim Duncan 10. Kobe Bryant Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 39,898✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,367✔️ (8th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,249✔️ (8th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,102✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 80.05✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all tim Y'all worship a accused rapist Kobe it's laughable
@@malcolmhodnett8874 So how is Michael Jordan doing lately? His teammates hate him, his rival Larry Bird changed his tune on LeBron in the GOAT debate, and he had to sell the Charlotte Hornets because he isn't as good at managing teams as he is at one-on-one basketball lol.
Think about it LeBron and D-Wade mocking Dirk who had flu-like symptoms and then you proceed to lose the next 3 games. At that time you hadn’t won anything! I’m sure the fanboys will come with excuses for this as well as straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks.
You might be biased
Everybody is.
Therefore: a null statement of yours.
@@JaKingScomez I’m factual and you might be proving my last point. 🥱
@@JaKingScomezEVERYTHING he said was facts and you're kinda proving his last point. Facts aren't biased.
@@randyjsing
LeBron is his own biggest fan!
LeNarcissist.
Biggest narcissist in sports history
Considering the vast pool of narcissism in professional sports - that is an astounding truth.
Exactly. In that he truly is king.
A delusional self-promoter.
Get back under your rock,son of Bayless!
@@baliksupper6043 Most people here don't watch ESPN.
The 🐐 scored 8 points in a finals game his team lost by 3 in a series his team lost that they were favored to win. And only averaged 17 on the series.
I miss it when athletes on different teams hated each other. Now, we're in this jersey swap, bro culture era. Thanks for getting us there, LeBron.
One thing many of his fans don't mention is that he played mostly in the Eastern conference which just happened to be quite weak most of the time. He would very likely play in fewer finals if playing in the wild wild West
I mean look at his lakers tenure. As soon as he moves out west its much harder to get in the playoffs. He is much older tho.
And he did that while teaming up with the 2nd best player there in D-Wade the man lacks the competitive drive to win the right way.
Crazy how Kobe and Duncan got out of the west so many times, on top of killing each other at the same time.
Guess I’ll be everyone’s thorn in their side here and say these few things. 1) the “strength of conference” argument is absolutely irrelevant because he dominated the conference like he was supposed to! Even in 2018 when it looked like he would fail because his team was bad HE STILL WON THE CONFERENCE! Also idc how weak a conference is winning it for 8 straight years is unheard of unless your name was Bill Russell. 2) then you use the “Wild West” argument like he didn’t WIN A TITLE the year the lakers actually built a proper roster around him! Sure you can say he missed the first year when he was injured for 27 games or the Russell Westbrook year, but outside of injuries and TERRIBLE front office decisions he’s barely minimum getting into the playoffs. 3) to directly address the “he would’ve won less if he played in the west” actually might not be true at all! So you’re telling me if he went to San Antonio he would’ve won less? Or if he would’ve been drafted by let’s say the Grizzled with Pau he would’ve won less? We don’t know that and if anything I think he’d had MUCH better help than when he was in Cleveland from 04-10 where he STILL went to the finals
@@lemonscentedgames3641but he won a title his second year and made the playoffs 3/5 times despite most of them battling injuries. Not a good measuring tape for a younger Lebron wouldn’t you say?😊
He did it to himself and MICHAEL JORDAN will always be the goat.
The clip of Michael Jordan in the beginning is why EVERYONE calls him the goat
Hopefully not always, I‘d love to see someone be better, in my lifetime.
But yeah, Lebron is not it, and it‘s not even close.
@@Zett76true
@@Zett76unless the world ends in the next 50 years or so, Micheal Jordan will definitely not be the goat forever
There's a big difference between a competitor and a whiner.
Watching dirk absolutely destroy the heat that year is still one of the best sports moments ever!
And the uncrowned MVP JJ Barea 😂
"Absolutley destroy" He dropped 26 on 42 fg percentage. Bit of an overstatment there. If Giannis or Jokic were to put up those scoring numbers in the finals, theyd get clowned
THAT'S WHY I RESPECT DIRKS 1 CHIP, TO LECHOKE'S "4"👈😅.
Lelance Armstrong Jamse didn't even bring the first title back to Cleveland. Former UFC champ Stipe Miocic did that while working as a fire fighter.
Nobody in Cleveland celebrated stipes title as the end of the title drought. The Cleveland curse was lifted when Lebron beat the warriors and fulfilled his prophecy of being the chosen one
Fact a fact though, Bron can claim the first team title sure. However, Stipe beat him to a world title.
@@chuckoblake8232 not a fact at all. The curse always referred to the 3 major sports teams, cavs, Indians and browns. Stipe could have won 15 title matches in a row and no one would have said the curse was lifted because it has nothing to do with professional fighting. Stipe doesn’t represent Cleveland when he fights he represents himself just like every other fighter. You can hate on Lebron all you want but he one hundred percent gets the credit for breaking the curse. Not a single person here in Cleveland will tell you stipe gets the credit
Not a single person gives a fuck what Clealanders think bro. Stipe won a world title in May then when the pressure was off Bron pull his shit off in June FACT. Pro fighting may hold the same weight it used to, still the first title to land in Cleveland.
@@chuckoblake8232 and nobody in Cleveland gives a fuck what your dumbass thinks. If the Cavs didn’t win the championship the drought would still exist. If you want live in your own little fantasy world because you hate Lebron so much go for it but your only making yourself look stupid
Heavy must be the head that wears that imaginary crown
The GOAT in flopping, losing, crying and "need more help" player.
Stat padding too
Going......on...... another......team 😂
LeBalco 😏
That’s exactly what I think keeps him from being the GOAT. Whenever he fails, it’s always “He needs more help!” Just ask yourself, did anyone ever say that about Jordan? Hell, Jordan didn’t even give us the opportunity to make excuses for him.
"That choking right there, made me the weakest player of all time"- LeBron James
LeBron James is likely to be heavily criticized after he retires, which I eagerly anticipate. He is likely to be considered the most quickly forgotten "GOAT" (Greatest Of All Time) in history. 🤣
Forgotten? Never!
Hater for fun
It's probably why he's not retiring right now. He probably thinks he can create one last superteam to get him rings 5 and 6. But the longer he stays, the more exposed his career becomes to his bullshit with how the NBA gifts the Lakers more free throws, with how they create a stupid mid season tournament with scrubs to give him a fake banner and even snubbing AD from the MVP in that stupid, meaningless tournament. Yet when his team loses, it's his teammates' fault. When his team wins, "that there made me the greatest of all time." Fuck that. I can't wait for this clown to leave.
@@lauraleelewis6526 who?
I’ll be so glad when he shuts it down because at this point all he’s doing is padding his stats for his claim to be the greatest. His overall stats are great but he still doesn’t have the hardware. He’s a joke at this point to me. Team sucks and he’s not doing anything to fix it
I hate when they say Jordon had Phil. How many champio ships did phil have before Jordon as a coach? I'll wait.....
They won together...i dont see where is the problem...furthermore phil jackson's first season as head coach was the 1989-1990 season, the one prior the bulls first ever nba championship
He did have 2 as a player. Not that im trying to defend this dude. But Phil was that guy.
It's like LeBron never grew up. He never learned what It really takes to be a great player. He is just doing an imitation of a great player.
What?
I don’t even know why we entertain and normalize the conversation of him being even in top 5. When was the moment he passed magic, Kobe etc.. the biggest propaganda known in sports
He'll be remembered as LaBomb James.
LeBron James has LOST the MOST GAMES in NBA FINALS HISTORY with 33 GAMES LOST. On the other hand, Michael Jordan has lost ONLY 11 games in the NBA Finals. LeBron James HAS THE MOST TURNOVERS in NBA HISTORY with OVER 5,100 TURNOVERS. On the other hand, Michael Jordan has only 2,974 turnovers.
the man played in 10 finals..9 in a row. Greatness now matter how you spin it.
Using random stats without context to fit your narrative😂
Lebron has been to more finals than Michael jordan with 10
@@PER578 True, but he has a losing record in the finals.
@@hoki0624 that's not the point. This guy brought up numbers without adding context, so I'm going to do the same thing
Remember when the NBA was about winning? Russell's 11 rings in 13 seasons. Jordan's 6 rings in 13 seasons. Magic's 5 rings in 12 seasons. Lebron has 4 rings in 21 seasons and knew he couldn't catch these legends so he's gone the stat pad route. All his mouthpieces in the media praise his stats these days. It's all they talk about.
Even his 4 rings are sus because 2 of them came in shortened seasons. Kyrie bailed him out after the NBA suspended Draymond. A ridiculous suspension that only happened to help the Cavs. No foul or tech was called on Dray but he gets suspended lmao. Ray Allen bailed him out too obviously. And the biggest fluke in sports history, the mickey mouse bubble. The Lakers haven't sniffed the finals with Lebron before or after that "championship." And no one talks about AD firing his agent, signing with Klutch Sports, then says he'll only accept a trade to the Lakers. Obvious tampering went on there.
Lastly, there is the PED use. Anyone with a brain knows this guy is on something. Every athlete ever declines at age 35+ and the only ones who didn't were caught using PEDs. One of Lebron's inner circle, Tristian Thompson, gets popped for PED use and the media reports on it for 2 mins that day and never speaks about it again. KG says "He's on that Balco. He's on that new juice" and the media said nothing. Didn't even cover it. Chael Sonnen brings it up and same thing, the media ignores it. The media knows he's using PEDs but they'll never ever cover it.
Jordan played every game for blood and took tremendous pride in his craft offensively and defensively.
LeBron is nowhere near him
LeBron, his minions, and his fanboys have done a great job burying the fact that he had to run and form a super team to get a ring. He stacked the deck in his favor to win. Same thing KD did. But KD gets more hate because his Super Team took rings off of LeBron.
You sound slow
You do realize jordan didnt make the finals until pippen got into the league
@@robertmiles1132you do realize Jordan is 6-0 in the finals and every single time he won FMVP?
@@TheCosmosAwaits He also had phil jackson, arguably the greatest coach? and the greatest gm? Do tell... how many rings does lebron's coaches have without him on the roster... Let alone the gm's lebron had to deal with. in fact every single ring that lebron achieved, wasn't it due to the team he put around himself? Whereas mj.... well we already have proof of his competency as a gm
No I don't think lebron is the goat, and I don't care where he ranks. But I do find it funny the lengths people go to discredit the guy. Admire greatness, and just get on with your life.
@@robertmiles1132 keep crying LeBron jock riding boy
The cost of Lebron James tarnishing his career $75 million dollars. The cost of running into a video that used the old unforgivable RUclips video as a reference… Priceless 🤙🏾
There's no doubt that LeBron's career will end with a HoF placement. However, his claim as the GOAT will never be realized. His body of work doesn't really transcend into the GOAT conversation and those who believe that it does either don't value winning and accolades as the prime standard or are simply too far gone in their fanboyism that they cannot be persuaded any longer.
Who is in the GOAT conversation?
@@nonamed56 MJ and Kareem are always certainly in there, that's for sure.
I mean it kinda does, 4 rings, 4 MVPs, 4 finals MVP’s, 20 all stars, 20 all NBA’s, I mean that sounds like he has a goat case. Not saying he is but that certainly is an argument.
@@StFigarlandGarling lmao, 6 finals losses and missing the playoffs after heading to a better conference, sure buddy.
LeBron's insane fan base is all about individual stats. Going by their own standards Wilt Chambrerlain is still the GOAT. He holds the most individual records in NBA history. It's not even close.
Rookie of the Year, two steal titles, two-time dunk champion, two-time gold medals in the Olympics, 10 time scoring champ, NCAA champion, college player of the year, six championships, 2 - 3 p e a t s in 8 years and undefeated in finals appearance for the championship, six Finals MVP, three All-Star MVPs, College MVP, 14 X All-Star........ every year he played, 10x all NBA first team, all NBA second team, it gets redundant but I could go on and on........ the true goat and what LeBron inspires to be when he grows up
Not 2,not 3,not 4 ... Losses in Finals 😂
I'm a competitor myself when I play we didn't join forces. The NBA suck today all these super teams
Clippers are the only one lol, and even then Harden and WB lost a couple steps. Unless Duos are superteams now.
His legacy was dead the moment he said he was the goat. No goat says he is the goat, He lets others say that for them and give reasons why.
The goat can say that they are the best of that era, that's confidence, not arrogance if you can back it up by actions.
It died the day he took the easy way out to Miami instead of get better and elevate the Cavs. LeBron is a ringchaser in his prime. It's pathetic.
He is the billy goaty who scapegoats Team Mates!!!
MJ has said he is the goat on multiple occasions.
@@StFigarlandGarling where did he say it?
Because I've only heard him say it's not up to him to say that. And that it's disrespectful to greats that came before him, that he didn't have the chance to play against.
@StFigarlandGarling Lie, lie,lie. He has said on many occasions he cringes when people mention him as GOAT.
Straight up lie, and you probably know it.
Kareem, MJ, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, and Magic ALL have better resumes. The disrespect to call yourself the GOAT knowing this is off the charts!
Larry Legend too
@@josephpetrick6269that’s just not true, LeBron literally has more everything than Larry. More rings, more finals MVP’s, more all stars, more all nbas, more MVP’s, more points, more assists, more rebounds, legit he does everything better.
@@StFigarlandGarlingBy PED'ed longevity. Bird came in and instantly made Celtics contender, then champion and 3 straight MVPs.
@@ImportAl PED’s? Seriously bro? Where’s your proof?
nah, that guy is utter trash@@josephpetrick6269
He ruined his legacy in high-school when he declared himself "KING" with that "chosen" tatoo.
I think what ultimately ruined his legacy was just not letting his career play out without having his friends doing the commentary, and constantly shoving this idea that he belongs in the goat debate down our throats.
I mean honestly today it feels like the only ones that like him or people that are signed to clutch sports and his super fans the people that are Stans for him.
Like I wouldn’t even have a problem with jumping from superteam to super team if after he wins a championship with basically an All-Star team behind him and then the next day, I have to get told how much better he is than Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. I’m sorry, but if you’re going to stack the deck that high And take that many shortcuts and then have the audacity to pay people to get on television and tell us that you’re better than Mike is what people have the problem with.
Like 10 years ago I think a lot more people liked him than they do now but I think now, especially since all of this slander towards Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant keeps coming from clutch sports to make him look better. He’s totally made an enemy out of anyone that has respect for the legacies of people that have played this sport .
Like I never thought he was the goat, but there was a time I liked him I would defend him. I was even happy when he came to the Lakers. I bought a LeBron James number 23 jersey. I even celebrated the bubble championship. But what ruined it for me was it felt like the bubble championship the disrespect to Kobe Bryant that were coming from people that were signed to clutch sports is what made me just say forget this guy. Any real Laker fan that has been a member of Laker nation for decades, and knows what’s going on as far as clutch sports goes, and LeBron James, none of us are happy with him. You can’t go around disrespecting Laker grades, and all you’ve done in a Laker uniform is a bubble championship in an in season tournament that was designed for him to win because everyone in their brother knew by the time the playoffs came around he wasn’t going to be in the finals again so they want to decorate this man up as much as possible.
But I really do think he wouldn’t have these back door deals with the NBA and ESPN and Fox Sports to where we’ve constantly being forced to listen to another goat debate in favor of LeBron. I mean for crying out loud it can be the middle of August, and the only thing happening in the sports world is baseball and you can probably turn on ESPN and they’re having a goat debate for the NBA.
I mean, the experiment has failed. It’s not like you’re going to change anyone’s mind in the next two seasons. The plan to make him the goat the media trying to convince people of it has failed miserably. I think even with the super teams people would’ve respected him so much more if he would’ve just let his career do the talking instead of , all of his friends who are signed to his company, constantly disrespecting legends, who worked harder and were more skilled, and had less help in tougher conferences than him.
Thank you for posting this. This is what I tell Bron fans. He couldn't win by himself. He isn't a competitor. He's a ring chaser.
He's also extremely arrogant and tries to ruin the legacy of true competitors.
💯💯
Also the constant whining and flopping and excuses don't help him either lol
I think there are plenty of normal who just like or celebrate LeBron, not sure why it always seems like liking him makes you stan.
Not only past legends, but him and his friends in the media constantly character assasinating his team mates and formner teammates just to get make him
Look good.
I don't care if he is gready or egocentric, to me the big problem is that the guy has no footwork, has poor handles, he is a poor shooter, every night he is traveling without getting calls, his teams have mysteriously way way way more free throws than the opponents and lastly the flopping and the fact that he owns an sports/media agency, with literally "media" seeds talking in his behalf... Then what about the stero*ds?
I never have I ever looked at him playing and I feel like I was watching the best ever.. or the second or the third... I don't think he was better than Duncan or Nowitzky, I don't think he was better than a healthy T-Mac, I don't think he is better than Nikola Jokic and definitely he is not even in the same stratosphere as Stephen Curry, Kobe nor MJ.
Props to you for throwing in the "Unforgivable" clip... truly goated. Also agree with the video lol
What legacy? He had way too much hype coming out of high school and never lived up to it. He proved he is soft .
Dudes whole narrative is a house of cards.. it can topple at any moment…incredible talent but not in my top of the top… MJ Kobe Magic Larry and Iverson
Top 20 is the best he gon get from me lol
@@Quack_attack_ if he had the killer mentality he’d be in the convo for me… he’s soft and it’s obvious to anyone who has sense.. it shows in his decisions and how he plays…
@@Quack_attack_ agree with this 100%, tbh I rank curry ahead of him due to the fact that he's 3-1 against this self-proclaimed king/goat - I can also attest that curry championship in 2022 is greater than lbj's 4 rings
Kobe?, Larry?, ALLEN IVERSON? Bro you gotta be trolling.
@@StFigarlandGarlinglmao let em troll
Ledookie technically only has one real ring and that’s the down 1-3 comeback. The Miami ones don’t count because he ruined the competitiveness by joining wade and bosh and that Mickey Mouse ring also doesn’t
😂🤣 he technically has 4 real rings
Technically? What a weird argument, if you feel like the MIA rings are valued less, then cool, pandemic which no one had control over, sure, I guess, but to get so butthurt because you hate LeBron and saying "tEcHniCal1y OnE RiNg" is mad weird, dude.
@@StillAwesome21 facts
nah, for me that championship he had has a big asterisk to it, that fishy suspension of green and bogut's injury did toppled that series straight up- warriors were the greater team that series and it's not even close - warriors could've won in 5 and heck even a sweep if that game 3 was officiated fairly (game 3 was rigged AF, cavs shot 21 freaking freethrows just in the 1st quarter alone and most of their starters were in foul trouble), so yeah, tell me if that's a LEGIT way of winning a championship
@@jericaspillaga1904 hater! Keep that same energy for every other championship!
As a raptor fan I eat up the Lebron slander
This isn't slander lol fully agree but these are just the facts laid out with his opinion on why the facts destroy his legacy
The nba is a business. Lebron left Cleveland the first time because they couldn’t build a team around him. He made a choice like all of us would leave for a better situation.
This is going to stir up the hornet's nest😂
when wade n lebron was mocking dirk nowitzki on being sick dat was cringey asf and not funny at all 💀😑🤨
Especially when in that same finals LeBron had to be carried off the court cause the AC was "broken"😂😂😂
@@Chuck_EL o yea right right I almost forgot about Dat part bro.. see how shit works out like Dat lol 😆 yea LeBron is really jus a strate up bitch I hate the league now I miss da early 2000's
@@Chuck_EL That was vs the Spurs
The problem with lebum is that he can't see past his own bullshit 😒
Once he left Cleveland for Miami and said I’m taking my talents to south beach
Imagine BIRD, MAGIC or JORDAN on Steroids????
Playing with one organization your entire career is such a flex imagine if lebron would’ve stayed in Cleveland
You don‘t have to imagine. Just look at all the respect Steph gets. :)
@@Zett76and kobe
Well when the best help your organization can give you for the first 7 years of your career is Mo Williams then it makes sense to leave.
@@StFigarlandGarling when nobody good wants to play with you... sure. :)
@@Zett76 what? Ok you gotta be trolling.
Love you channel name!!!! Thank you MJ for saying that. That's how real ballers roll! Lebron is looking for the easy way out, all the time. Yet, he wears his real hero's number 23! LOL That chart you showed comparing these stats was totally awesome! 6 rings to 4, etc. Wow. Well done, bro. I thought Dwade had more class than that. SMH
Every time he talks he blow My high
😂
Great video and finally someone talking not only about the comparison with MJ (which is absurd in itself), but as you pointed out even just by comparing LeBron to Duncan he gets bitten up!
C'mon the guy can play another 10 years and keep moving from one super team to the next and even win 2 more titles, but the point is that nobody in the history of the NBA did that, and it's not a compliment, even if Sharpe, Wright and other mental incapacitated media personalities keep saying that that's the reason why he's the Goat he's not.
He's is the Goat of mercenaries and the first words of MJ are the main reason why the vast majority can't respect LeBron or see him as the Goat after what he did in 2010 as nobody would respect MJ if after 1990 being bitten again by Detroit, asked to be transfered to the Lakers to join Magic and Worthy to win titles, that's not the right way to win, there is no struggle in doing that!
1. Leaving for Miami
2. “After that i was the greatest of all time”
3. 8 pts in the 2011 NBA Finals
4. Swept in the NBA Finals Twice
5. Team Hopped
6. Flopping
7. Other Stars beat him for Titles.
That’s about it for me. He’s one of the greats NO DOUBT. Tbh i didn’t mind him leaving CLE best of how bad the management was. They didn’t want to give it JJ Hickson for Stoudermire from the suns 😂 That’s would make anyone leave.
My friend. You gave perfect examples of why he is not the greatest player of all time.
However I do think that James is the most complete player. He can score, handle the ball like a point guard, and he can pass and rebound. His defense has been declining as he ages. But at his best. James was a good and diverse defender. And he always keeps himself in good condition.
In my opinion personally. I just don't trust him at the free throw line in critical situations. He's a complete player.
But like you stated earlier. He just made some bad decisions. Also a no show in the finals really hurt.
Le-pergamous James has a history of boasting, whenever he thinks he has artificially, manufactured the clear, advantage. That's why it's hilarious whenever, his shortcuts fall flat. 😂
The decision is the grossest thing ever. I am fine with the super team thing but the whole show was just a joke. What a clown
James is no Tommie Smith, John Carlos or Muhammad Ali. They were champions of social justice.
Tbh, I don't even count him in my Top 10 of all time. 3 superteam rings and a bubble ring don't mean much. And, he got swept a lot of times and won bronze in the olympics.
MJ had to wait several years for Scottie to develop and lose to Detroit. When Scottie was ready, the rolled of 6 of em. 1 all star, top guy, all he ever had. Ran 2nd 3peat when he cam back with a whole new team he had never played with.
His wears number is 23 😂 come on now we all know who's number 23 really is
this is exactly what I've been saying for years! if LeBron want to be in the goat conversation, he should first turn back the time and never leave Cleveland. it's about legacy, not records
That “cough” in the 2011 finals lives rent free in LeGM and Wade’s nightmares. I promise you!
For anyone claiming the Cavs did not surround LeBron with help in 2010 (his 7th season): Michael Jordan only had Scottie Pippen (17.8ppg) and Horace Grant (12.8ppg) averaging more than 10 points per game in his 7th season during which he won his first championship.
The creator of the buddy buddy basketball era ladies and gentlemen!
10:15 this man really put “unforgivable” in the vid. Goat.
The fact that he left and created 3 super teams invalidates him from the Goat title. Wade and bosh in Miami. Kyrie and love in Cleveland. Davis and Westbrook in LA.
The guy has 4 Championships and 4 MVPs and people still try and say he’s not the Goat. Like WTf does he have to do ?
There is no team ever going to match what the 90s Bulls accomplished in that whole decade......... two 3 Pete's, in 8 years....... never be done again
Awesome video. Well articulated.
He ruined his reputation when he joined wade hence superteam every season
Charlmers said it better " No one feared LeBron".😂😂😂
There's only 3 times a team has won a 3 peat.. Lakers and the bulls 2 times. MFS now in the league can't even win back to back championships lmao
LeBron sees Dirk coughing in his nightmares.
Its always fascinating for me as someone who doesnt watch nor enjoy sports to see little videos like this that highlight sport culture. Like how can this dude claim to be the greatest? Dont others have more rings than him and did so in a much quicker fashion?
It makes no sense but is incredibly funny from the outside looking in. A grown man wants the world to know he can put a ball in a hoop the best.
Thanks for the excellent video!
The fact he joined because kobe was dominating and winning chips is insane. And like 2 days ago Chris Paul was joining that Miami Heat also but something happened with Chris Paul so he didn't joined them.
You earned a subscription from me with this one!
This is the most complete and concise documentation of Lebron's rise to shame that I've seen 👍
While you posted this video, LeBron was slapping the clippers😂😂😂
The "GOAT" had a good game for once? Cool
@@hakancarlsson2881 calm down bud i was just stating facts
@@Mf_Cooldawg Dude! Settle down, no need for that. I'll back off
It used to be the exact opposite Kobe Ranch shack out of town so he could get recognized for being as great as he was as an individual.
Garnett said something about some new shit he on 😂😂😂 And not showing up for Kobe's statue ceremony... LeGone legacy really went South beach since the decision.
What legacy?hopping from one team to another?who i think would have a hard time winning championship,without going to an already champion team or build a team of superstars😂😂😂
This video was posted in 2008 and was accidentally put on private until 2024
Also stealing AD was even grosser bullying a franchise into selling off their star for Pennie’s on the dollar
very good argument! subscribed!
2:09 -skip like I told u playa😂
The opening is just pure wisdom.
who's here after the clippers game lmao
Why?
Great players win games for their teams, more often than not.
That alone is not a goat argument. Ir‘s a precondition.
I don't get it.. Is the clippers game supposed to prove something?
I'm waiting for the PED thing to catch fire.
A lot of people will feel very empty when LeBron retires.
Lebron and Heat were expected to win it all. It is so funny because there are some arguments that says that 2011 Mavs was also a superteam that's why they won (LOL). KD did the same thing but they hated him for it. Most will say what he did was different but it is the same thing. Both of them joined forces with another superstar to win a championship. They hated KD because it worked for him from year one. That GSW team is almost unbeatable until the injuries.
That wasn't the sound of them fake coughing.
That was the sound of them choking. 😂😂😂
9:41 Why's LeBron blinking so damn much?
Lmao
Probably flashing cameras
It's a sign of lying
He’s trying to see if he can miss his impact on the game
He stayed long enough to become the villain.
The Decision…lol the name says it all, my decision is the most important thing in the world!
I was watching the Lakers vs the Warriors the other day. I didn't even realize there was a super star in the game. The NBA is so boring anymore. I really wish someone would be somewhat as exciting to watch as Michael Jordan.
King, Chosen One? You play basketball. King of fake reading books, and chosen one to open a school where no one passes
The thing I hate , is lebron fans have to tear down other greats , or their eras to prop up Lebrons legacy . And how dare you not put lebron number 1 n your top 10… they think it’s disrespectful .
the crazy part about that Cleveland championship is as a Cleveland Indians/browns/cavs fan that was kyries ring
Facts! 💯
Athletic top 10 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Bill Russell
5. Magic Johnson
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Larry Bird
8. Shaquille O'Neal
9. Tim Duncan
10. Kobe Bryant
Athletic has Kobe Bryant #10 all time
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3pt%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
WS/48: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Field goal%
LeBron 50.5%✔️
Kobe 44.7%
Points scored career
LeBron 39,898✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 33,643
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Total 3pointers made
LeBron 2,367✔️ (8th all time)
Kobe 1,827
Total Steals career
LeBron 2,249✔️ (8th all time)
Kobe 1,944
Total Blocks career
LeBron 1,102✔️
Kobe 640
Defensive win shares
LeBron 80.05✔️
Kobe 50.66
Assists Leader
LeBron 1✔️
Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
Career highs
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters
LeBron 5✔️
Kobe 1
2010 NBA finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2011 NBA playoffs
Mavericks 4 Lakers 0
Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series
LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all tim
Y'all worship a accused rapist Kobe it's laughable
For the next week count the number of people you see wearing Jordan's vs LeBrons.
Years later, bron s statement is going to say he predicted everything that after
Bro had to drop this immediately after he heard even Larry Bird is calling LeBron James one of the best if not the best ever LOL. Copium much?🤣
Very great argument against the facts laid out here. LeDad would be proud of you
@@malcolmhodnett8874 So how is Michael Jordan doing lately? His teammates hate him, his rival Larry Bird changed his tune on LeBron in the GOAT debate, and he had to sell the Charlotte Hornets because he isn't as good at managing teams as he is at one-on-one basketball lol.
@@chestercastaneda4920those are your serious arguments? 🤡
When did Larry bird said that?
He is the greatest of all time. The greatest choke artist to sell out of all time
A very clickable title tbh
You must be an 8 year old Bronsexual. The title perfectly represents what the video is talking about. Learn the definition of the word "clickbait"🤡😂
Start the good riddance tour already
Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird.
Lebron isn't in their league