Crankbait Master Class 1, Understanding Crankbaits Wiggle and Roll
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2021
- I have been receiving requests to do a video on Crankbait design and theory for a while. Be carful what you ask for. In this video I go into what makes a crankbait work and how you can incorporate the theory into designing lures and even selecting one off the shelf. #makinglures #makingcrankbaits
This channel of yours is exactly what I'm looking for for years. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge !
The lightbulb has just been illuminated. That was perfectly explained.
Very informing!! For me to just start building lures this is killer info! I hope you continue in next part to show how different lip shapes effect the lures roll and wobble.
OMG. That one 9 minute tutorial contained more usable information anything I've read or seen. Roll is no longer a mystery. And being able to adjust it is no longer a mystery. I'm feeling that by the end of the series I'll be able to design and tune a lure to do exactly what I want and leave less to hapinstance. And I haven't even seen the rest! Thank you.
I’ll attest. Listen to this guy. I started making cranks back in the golden age before even Tackle Underground was a thing. lol 90-91 to date myself. Got really lucky on some but had all sorts of misconceptions. This guy is explaining things that I invested years of trial and error into figuring out. He will save you a lot of the disappointment of experiencing the error part of that equation. Making a functional crank bait isn’t all that difficult really. Knowing what changes to make to fix one that doesn’t work or to make one better… that’s the tricky part.
Wow thanks...I hope I live up to your praise.
Would a wind tunnel with smoke demonstrate your argument? Or maybe a long water tank? Good use of physics and teaching aids. You’re a great professor, please keep the videos coming!
I think a wind tunnel would do it...I might build a small one to try.
Thanks so much for doing this. A little nerdy stuff will save years of trial and error!
Awesome video, looking forward to the next one.
Awesome stuff Franco! Love the nerdy explanation.
James from Sydney Australia
Thank you, James
Excellent video. Your content unlocks so many secrets for me
Glad to hear that!
thank you! cant wait for class 2.
Love the visual aid 😂🔥
Looking forward to this series. I'm a graduate of Greg Vinall's Crankbait Masterclass. Greg is an Aussie lure maker that dispels a lot of myths about how crankbaits work. There is a lot of misinformation out there about bib design, bib angle, what causes lures to dive deeper, tow point location etc. There is quite a science behind it as I'm sure you are well aware Franko. In particular, I hear a lot of folks say that to make a lure dive deeper, just change the bib angle. This is simply only one small part of deeper diving lures. In fact it is not the cause of a lure diving deeper, but rather it is required to prevent a deep diving lure from becoming unstable.
Anyway, as I said, I'm looking forward to this. I think you'll open up a lot of eyes and turn many light bulbs on!
You're right it is a very complex topic and will take a couple of vids to cover. And you are also right about the misconceptions out there, they all have a nugget of truth but usually miss the mark.
great content , i think it´s great what you do . most lure makers never tell you what does what . i have been making lures for a little over a year and with you´re channel and a shit ton of trial and error i have made some really nice lures , thank you for what you do
It's really satisfying to hear that your getting useful info from my content. Keep watching and share with your buddies.
Thank you, I love the "nerdy lure stuff "
Did you say nerdy🤪🤯. Live it 🤙🤙👍
Appreciate your work mate, excellent information.
Glad to help
This one class in less than ten minutes has really opened my eyes about the dynamics of bib design and body shape. Can't wait for the next class.
Intuitioneering is all I ever had to work with 😂👍👍
Thank you.
@@EngineeredAngler Just wanted to update my comment and say I've been literally amazed at the success of my crank bait lures. I still have a hard time believing I could make something so cool. Thanks again.
As a musky crankbait hobbyist I’m very excited for this series. Thanks!
I am looking forward to the future episodes already.....The big foamy crank is funny. Reminds me of the big tooth model some dentists have....lol
I think I'll have to give it a name... nice to know folks are getting something out of the video. Thanks
@@EngineeredAngler Someone in the comments (Lee Howell) called it the "styrolure", not super catchy but....
@@EngineeredAngler Crankenstein or better yet....Floatzilla
Been making lures for a couple years and with wood I seemed to get lucky and things would usually work, recently got a 3D printer and have been trying to design my own lures to print and 9/10 times the version fails or doesn't perform how I want it to. Been watching your videos for a few weeks now and I'm really looking forward to these master classes, think it'll really improve my design!
Master Classes: ruclips.net/p/PLEVBv_zywucSP5GuSEwt6x2SJ0K94u6rH
Thanks for the analysis. Makes sense
I always love hearing your explanation. Most of the time it jives with my process but sometimes it doesn’t then I can tweak mine and make a better lure so if no one else gets anything know I do!
You are not alone in that boat 👍
Thanks so much for the feed back.
Thanks for this one. lol I waste a lot of time in lure building groups wondering if the people answering ever even watch the lures in the water. Especially when it’s questions about line tie and weight placement. Some of it is so counter intuitive and a lot of people say what they think should happen when it’s not at all what happens. When I first started, I was moving the line tie down trying to get less roll and a tight wiggle because that’s what I was told and what made sense intuitively. Something wasn’t right, so I made a serious of lures to experiment with and they did the exact opposite of what I wanted. 30 years later and I catch myself trying to correct people on the internet with the same misconceptions I had.
Lot's of information out there based disconnected hear-say and lack of understanding...it's best to understand the fundamentals then experiment from there. Thanks for the input.
@@EngineeredAngler I am a fan and don’t mind plugging your videos every chance I have. lol you’re welcome 😬 it’s kind of a mess out there, but at the same time, the internet and RUclips have sped up the learning curve exponentially and gotten so many interested in lure building. I wish you had been dishing out some of this info back about 1990. 😂 It is frustrating though to see guys being misled by people who are obviously just guessing. So, keep up the good work. 👍
Thank you that means a lot. Cheers.
Beautiful explanation!!🙏🏽🔥
Now it's starting to make sense, am looking forward to other instructive blogs. Now I'm starting to make sense of it I now need to go back and fellow at all your life making videos. Thank you for doing this video.
I love this series,
This was really a great video. Now I understand a lot more. Tnx. 👍🏼 Do more like this. Next time maby about swimbaits.
Thanks! Will do!
Good stuff Franko! I’m looking forward to what’s to come. And ya know what…we need more nerds like you 😉
My wife says one is enough...
@@EngineeredAngler If your wife is anything like my wife, she’s right…even when she’s wrong 😉
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! Appreciate the nerdy stuff - it's exactly what I'm looking for! Love your "visual aid" - excellent idea for show & tell 😀 Looking forward to the rest of the Master Series!
Awesome, thank you!
Great stuff as always, hope you get to enjoy the long weekend!
Thank you...
.Love this channel. Thank you, Franco.
No one mentions your editing skills that aĺlow the video to flow so easily. This is a great source of information . Much appreciated
I'm pretty confident with the engineering but I'm definitely a novice with the video editing. Thank you so much for the positive feedback it really does make a does make a difference.
Thanks for these videos.
Thanks Franco, this was very informative and I am looking forward to the rest of your series on crank bait fundamentals.
Brilliant video! Please keep this series going. Easy to understand and very informative. 10/10
This is the exact type of information I've been in search of for several years now. I always suspected there was a sort of formula for figuring out how to get the amounts of side to side wobble I was wanting out of my DIY lures.
This video goes a long way toward helping me figure this formula out. Now I can go back to my CAD models and tweak the geometry of the bills in my lure prototypes.
Thanks. I look forward to seeing your next installment.
If I had more teachers in school with your ability to explain their subjects like you do with your lure tutorials I would have done a lot better. Great class and looking forward to the next one.
Wow, thanks!
Thank you so much, exactly the video I was looking for
You are welcome!
Excellent content, had to watch it a few times kept getting interrupted. Once I was able to sit and absorb it all it made me want to make one. Can't wait for the next one
Thank you very much Franco for clearing some things up for me! As an HVAC tech, I have some understanding of physics and fluid flow but for the life of me, I could not understand how a streamlined lure, equal on all sides and being pulled in a straight line would do anything but go in a straight line, like pulling on a rope. Your engineering mind has explained it clearly to me. I really like your blend of art and science. Two questions for you. Would you consider doing video's on making metal (copper) fishing spoons? And number 2, have you ever considered using silver solder to secure the internal wiring harness together? It's pretty easy once you master the technique.
Yes...actually a got really into using silver solder a few years back...super handy. I don't like using it on the wire and hooks since the heating tends to anneal it. But I'm sure there's a technique to re-temper.
@@EngineeredAngler Thanks!
This is precisely why I appreciate your content, I always want to know how something works. Can't wait for the next installments!
Thank you very much!
Excellent video, you're a natural teacher sir!
Very informative. I love to see the same videos in relation to stickbait type lures.
I love the applied engineering in all your content. This series is going to be very popular! The (why it does this) explanations I believe, really push your channel over and above other lure builders. There are a bunch of very talented lure builders here on RUclips turning out extremely nice lures. Most how ever fall short when it comes to (why it does this) answers. I have come to understand many lure properties and design elements through your channel, as I'm sure many other viewers also have. Looking forward to next installment. I am interested in recreating a lure I bought as a 11 or 12 year old so 1971 or 72. Brand/name was not of the big 4 names of the day. My Father was Game Warden in Lee Co.Ia, at that time one of his monthly duties was going to every little bait shop, gas station, store and tavern that sold fishing licenses in the whole county. He hated it, I loved it! In some dark tavern I found this magic to me lure. Have not seen any lure before or after being any where close to it's design. Profile from the side looked like 2.5/3.inch spoon with fat end forward, with a short but wide bib set at 20-30 degrees. Top down view was close to profile of a Storm Thin Fin. So Shad like. Top or back the center was convex Shad shape with a tiny lip or step around the edge facing up. confused with my description? I'm trying not too. Single molded in large hook. In short, backward plastic spoon with short wide wake bait bib. on retrieve gave a wide nose to tail wobble. Kinda walkin the dog like. stop it sank super slow with slight flutter. Could not be retrieved fast at all. Not stable at any more than a crawl. Did a real nice dying Shad or panfish imitation. Caught Bass small and large mouth, White Bass, Jumbo Crappies, Catfish and a few chunky fresh water Drum. Lure became a lasting display for asst, birds and other tree dwellers in a Oak Dad said no way he was cutting down, for my damn lure. OK (why and how did it do all that?)! One last thing, I'd like to send some really nice Stainless blades, prop ,chopper, chatter assortment to play with. Bought in bulk, way more than I can use. Drop massage to kahlconnie72@gmail.com with a P.O. box or what ever you use. I'll hook you up with cool tinkering parts. Would enjoy seeing engineering mind putting them to use! Huge Fan! Jeffrey Franta. Peace
Jeffry,
Thank you for sharing your magic lure story. Those sort of stories are really close to my heart. And thank you for your offer but my time, focus, and space is at its limit. Stay safe, stay healthy, and thanks again.
Thank you, it helped me a lot, very good explanation
Glad it helped!
Thanks for this content! Very informative
My pleasure!
One of the most interesting and difficult parts of lure design has always been the lip/bib. The engineer in me wants to have equations for dive lip behavior. Due to the complexity, I doubt one will ever come about, but it is an interesting thought. Thanks for shedding more light on the subject though. I have never given too much thought to roll.
Trying to derive an equation would be like solving for the Grand Unified Theory.🤣
Thanks so much for your insight! Just starting to work on 3D printing some cranks and your explanation is so helpful!!!!
Thanks Franco, can't wait for the next part of this series. Love your channel.
WOW! THANK YOU! You took a 1,000 page Applied Mathematics of Crankbaits book down to an easy to understand video. I found you on Facebook that someone posted. I liked and subscribed. Cant wait for part 2 and more. Thanks again.
Help me build the channel and share it everywhere you can...and thank you.
Thanks for this video. Great stuff. The thumbs down must be from big lure manufacturers that don't want people making their own lures.
Well said!
THIS IS PURE GOLD.
Thank for Sharing your immense knowledge! ❤
Intuitioneering…..? Haha.
I am so looking forward to watching this series to come! Thank you for all of your hard work, knowledge and cinematography skills!
It’s great to have even a basic understanding of how lures work so I can employ these teachings to hopefully get more out of my creations.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🎣. Have a good weekend buddy!
This is the stuff I love too... thanks for the support.
If you liked the video. Give me a thumbs up. If you didn’t like the video. Give me another thumbs up. 👍😂🎣
More knowledge is great 👍
More to come!
Thanks for giving some valuable lure information.
I hope you give some information about suspending lures. I can speak for my experience bass fishing bass predator actions to attack, kill and eating their prey is a God given to keep the healthy strong. That said, the stopping hesitation with a fluttering hurting bait creates the attack faster, more in terms multiple fish numbers. One larger fish seem to be after the weaker, it’s easy lunches, the feeders join in for easy prey. Hope I making my views clear for suspending baits, and not to wordy ! RLF
Thanks for the suggestion...we'll get to that subject soon
Thank you for the insights!… as always, great stuff!
Thank u..glad i found u...👍👍👍
Welcome! If you have suggestions...let me know.
Cheers Franko, looking forward the next one..
Thanks
This should be a paid 3 part class! 🤙
I have a feeling I’ll be coming back to this series frequently.
Hi Franco,
I started designing and building my own lures about 12 month's ago and I want to thank you for all of your helpful information which has helped me along the way,
I was wondering if you have any video's on lure bib's, their design, and what properties of bib's make lures do what they do on Crankbait's,
Thank's mate,
Dean Hanckel
Sydney, Australia
That's a big topic that would take so much underwater filming that I haven't tackled it yet.
Awesome video! Being a Mechanical Engineer myself this made a lot of sense. I do wish you would have gone into bib angle and the effects of that as well. Saw your styrolure had the ability to change bib angle too! Clever and very nice visual aid!
We'll hit each element separately...bib angle and depth of dive is a big one. Thanks for the positive feedback
Really need a tank like the big lurer makers have they go underground an watch the action of the lurer it really amazing i watched that video of there huge tank
Excellent video! The crankbaits that I find most fascinating are baits that hunt for center. I am primarily a musky fisherman and trolling baits that hunt for center are crucial to triggering these finicky creatures. Headlocks and matlocks by supernatural big baits, the Phantom hex, and the storm hot-n-tot are phenomenal at hunting. I believe this characteristic is due to the line tie being able to move freely in the aluminum diving lip. If you could possibly elaborate on what causes "hunting" in certain baits. I think would be helpful for people who are trying to understand what is happening with these types of lures. Thanks, love your videos!
Definitely a good topic.. 👍
This is the content I've been waiting for from you. Give me the science so I don't have to make 12 configurations of the same lure body to figure out what action I can get. And maybe sometime you can explain "porpoising" where it just moves up and down and no wiggle/roll. I suspect it is from too fat a diving plane but what do I know.
I assume you saw this video where I solved the purpoising problem on my lure...?
ruclips.net/video/7f087ccsu4M/видео.html
@@EngineeredAngler ah yes I forgot you mentioned the fix. It would be interesting if you have a video summary of design fails eventually.
I like to see a design the line tie on lure but dives very deep while lure stay straight not a down motion the fish in water is always straght in water
Hi, Franco. Would love to hear your thoughts about the Von Karman vortex shedding street effect, and how it may influence bait motion. How might the effect vary with bib angle and shape, tow point location and tow angle, and body shape.
Yes...really interesting and when seen using computer graphic or wind tunnels is really beautiful. The the fundamental dynamics are the same for lures but with lures the solid body causing the vortices is also moving... much more complex phenomenon.
Great video can enother video of masterclass of crawler lure ?
I saw Marling Baits have a bit of an problem with that beautiful carved bird lure...there are definitely some methods to ensure a good crawl.
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Loved it ! How can you get the "Hunting" action that some default produced crank baits have ? This action is when the crankbait hits an obstacle it just has an unpredictable action ?
Most hunting crankbaits are round and stubby with a wide square lip so when the corners of the lip hit something it is really knocked in to turning.
That's true...but there's a bit more to it
I always struggle to get my baits perfect and not from this vid I can
I'm sure you have covered this in a video somewhere.... but what material or materials do you or can make lure lips from and where exactly do buy it? From the brief searching I've done there doesn't seem to be a product specifically designed for this application...
There are products...but I have not done a video. I will soon.
There is a limit on length of lip when it comes to lip width where the cranks action fails and it stalls on one side or the other correct?
What I have seen is instability with excessively long lips....good question, though.
Hi Franco!
Love your videos, but i just have one question. If one would want to make a lure that both rolls and wiggles, so that it looks a bit ”crazy” and is just wiggling like a madman, how would that work? Is it mostly weight placement or can a lip be made to serve this purpose? Thanks in advance!
A wide and short bib will add roll and placing the tie eye close to the bib will Exaggerate the wiggle. Good luck.
@@EngineeredAngler Huge thank you! Earned a subscriber.
I seem to have blow out with some of my baits….
Stay tuned, you might get a bit of help in coming videos.
Sooo... when is Class #2?
Planned for next week...