I think this is the best breakdown I've seen of the double haul. I love to watch these videos to help me and to help instruct my friends that are converting lol. They were tired of seeing me pull in fish! Great series, too!
I can watch Simons videos and read his books over and over and I always pick up some nuances that I missed previously. My suggestion to those who think they need to spend lots of money, join a local fly fishing club. Soon you will acquire more fly fishing gear than you will ever use. Most clubs have free tables that seem to get continuously refilled as families donate their father or grandfather stuff when they pass on. And regular meetings with raffles and flea markets where people practically give stuff away to grateful friends. Plus you will get exposed to all kinds of fishing. And a good club will have regular speakers that will also help you along your path. And if you still want to learn on the cheap, buy a cheap $20 dollar line. Cut the head off and use Berkley mono for running line. I think the point that everyone is missing is that it’s important to feel the loading as to introduce good muscle memory. Makes casting the other lines easier because you have the basics down.
Thank you so much! I could not figure out why I was struggling to shoot line on the back cast sometimes and your advanced technique solved that for me.
Poor Teagan in the background. "But Simon, I've been casting for 10 hours! Can I have some water?" Simon: "NO Teagan. We have to shoot chapter 5 one more time" Love the instructions, Simon. Going out tomorrow to try it!
I‘ve learned so much from your incredible teaching over the last 2 month. Learning fly fishing in Germany is not the easiest task, I managed my first rather controlled double haul casts last week and am so grateful for the tips. Owning 2 Wrangler rods (5&7) now and will be out for the hunt on sea trout by thursday 🙌🏻
Thanks for this video. You explained everything very clearly I spend most of my fishing time with spinning gear but I use to fly fish back in the seventies. I could cast pretty good and would single haul when needed. I always enjoyed the dynamics of loading and timing and was surprised by the number of people who could not get even the most basics. My son and his friends want to get into fly fishing so I guess I’ll be getting back into it. I’ll start practicing the double haul so they think I’m a god
@farbank I tried your shooting head + running line suggestion. It does make the double haul very easy, but I couldn’t find a recommendation for how to attach a running line to a welded loop. I made a loop in the running line and did a loop to loop, but the knot I used is getting caught in the guides. What would you suggest?
The loop connection is the best option as you can change heads. The secret is to have enough overhang outside the rod so that when you haul, you don't pull the knot into the rod rings. If you still don't like the loop connection going through your rod rings the smoothest connection would be to attach the shooting line to the head with an improved clinch knot. Hope that helps. Glad the tips worked for you in the video and thanks for commenting.🙂
Your double haul video of two years ago was excellent, this one is even better. You are a truly outstanding teacher. I have been working on improving my basic stroke and loop formation daily for about 6 months and am going to start your double haul practice program tomorrow. I have already obtained the shooting head and running line. I am not especially well physically coordinated, so wish me luck. Also, I am curious. With daily practice sessions of approximately 1/2 hour, what is the typical range of weeks of practice before an average student achieves the competency to consistantly cast a 5 weight Rio Gold 75 feet?
Glad to hear the videos have helped inspire you to get in to the double haul, and hope it goes well for you. It sounds like you have the right foundation, at least. We asked Simon with regard to your question. He said that it is a little tough to answer as people learn at different rates. With a good foundation and practice as you suggest he said it shouldn't take more than a few weeks to get there. You have to go beyond the basics, though, and learn to lengthen your casting stroke, add "drift" into the back cast, and get used to smooth, but faster acceleration of the rod and the haul. With those skills he said you should be able to achieve that.
hi simon do you connect the slick shooter line directly to the reel or do you put some back on first and then connect also does it matter wether you use a floating shooting head or an intermediate shooting head to practice the double haul
We checked with Simon, who says you put on your normal backing first, say ,100 yards of 20lb braid, and then attach the SlickShooter. This would be to fill the reel up and have less tight turns and memory in the SlickShooter. As for the density of the shooting head, if you are on grass it won't matter, but if you are on water you will certainly want a floating head
You can indeed, and it is a very good line for fishing. It is particularly designed for easy distance and casting big flies, so if you are dry fly fishing, it isn't a great line. Simon just advocates the progression of using more and more difficult lines to double haul with just to get better. 🙂
I tried for days to get the haul right. After long time trying I have landed the motion and got it into two moves. The only part i am still struggling with is tge release at the end my line still falls flat
That will come with practice. Simply, though, the best time to release the line is the instant the rod stops the casting stroke - not a milli second earlier
If you fish the flats or lots of lakes OK learn the double haul, otherwise you just don't need it. I learned it because I was supposed to to be a real fly fishermen. Never used it.
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I think this is the best breakdown I've seen of the double haul. I love to watch these videos to help me and to help instruct my friends that are converting lol. They were tired of seeing me pull in fish! Great series, too!
Excellent, thanks for commenting - glad you enjoyed the episode and series. Nice to read that you are passing it on!
Absolutely fascinating... Its going to be a while before I can master the double haul. Something the aspire to.
You'll get it if you want it - and have the time to practice. It is an incredible skill to have in your armory, that's for sure.
That was a fantastic explanation and demonstration.
Can't unlearn that now!
Thanks.
Great, hope you master the double haul going forward...
@@FarBank A work-in-progress! :)
I can watch Simons videos and read his books over and over and I always pick up some nuances that I missed previously. My suggestion to those who think they need to spend lots of money, join a local fly fishing club. Soon you will acquire more fly fishing gear than you will ever use. Most clubs have free tables that seem to get continuously refilled as families donate their father or grandfather stuff when they pass on. And regular meetings with raffles and flea markets where people practically give stuff away to grateful friends. Plus you will get exposed to all kinds of fishing. And a good club will have regular speakers that will also help you along your path. And if you still want to learn on the cheap, buy a cheap $20 dollar line. Cut the head off and use Berkley mono for running line. I think the point that everyone is missing is that it’s important to feel the loading as to introduce good muscle memory. Makes casting the other lines easier because you have the basics down.
Very good advice indeed!
Thank you so much! I could not figure out why I was struggling to shoot line on the back cast sometimes and your advanced technique solved that for me.
That's great to read, thanks for commenting - glad the video helped.
This is great instruction and care. Awesome series, thank you for sharing !
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it :)
I’ve been practicing but your video gave me even more tips than what I’ve seen in others. Thank you
Glad to hear it helped :)
Poor Teagan in the background.
"But Simon, I've been casting for 10 hours! Can I have some water?"
Simon: "NO Teagan. We have to shoot chapter 5 one more time"
Love the instructions, Simon. Going out tomorrow to try it!
Ha ha, love the comments about Teagan!! Glad you enjoyed it anyway :)
I‘ve learned so much from your incredible teaching over the last 2 month. Learning fly fishing in Germany is not the easiest task, I managed my first rather controlled double haul casts last week and am so grateful for the tips.
Owning 2 Wrangler rods (5&7) now and will be out for the hunt on sea trout by thursday 🙌🏻
Thanks for commenting, We're stoked you enjoyed the video and learned from it. Hope it continues to go well...
Thanks for this video. You explained everything very clearly I spend most of my fishing time with spinning gear but I use to fly fish back in the seventies. I could cast pretty good and would single haul when needed. I always enjoyed the dynamics of loading and timing and was surprised by the number of people who could not get even the most basics. My son and his friends want to get into fly fishing so I guess I’ll be getting back into it. I’ll start practicing the double haul so they think I’m a god
Good luck with that, and hopefully you son and friends find this to be a lifelong passion.
Rotating the top three sections is a great tip! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed that one...
@farbank I tried your shooting head + running line suggestion. It does make the double haul very easy, but I couldn’t find a recommendation for how to attach a running line to a welded loop. I made a loop in the running line and did a loop to loop, but the knot I used is getting caught in the guides. What would you suggest?
The loop connection is the best option as you can change heads. The secret is to have enough overhang outside the rod so that when you haul, you don't pull the knot into the rod rings. If you still don't like the loop connection going through your rod rings the smoothest connection would be to attach the shooting line to the head with an improved clinch knot. Hope that helps. Glad the tips worked for you in the video and thanks for commenting.🙂
Your double haul video of two years ago was excellent, this one is even better. You are a truly outstanding teacher. I have been working on improving my basic stroke and loop formation daily for about 6 months and am going to start your double haul practice program tomorrow. I have already obtained the shooting head and running line. I am not especially well physically coordinated, so wish me luck.
Also, I am curious. With daily practice sessions of approximately 1/2 hour, what is the typical range of weeks of practice before an average student achieves the competency to consistantly cast a 5 weight Rio Gold 75 feet?
Glad to hear the videos have helped inspire you to get in to the double haul, and hope it goes well for you. It sounds like you have the right foundation, at least.
We asked Simon with regard to your question. He said that it is a little tough to answer as people learn at different rates. With a good foundation and practice as you suggest he said it shouldn't take more than a few weeks to get there. You have to go beyond the basics, though, and learn to lengthen your casting stroke, add "drift" into the back cast, and get used to smooth, but faster acceleration of the rod and the haul. With those skills he said you should be able to achieve that.
@@FarBank Thanks! I am determined to make it even if it takes several months and some one on one coaching.
@@jayludvigh6958 great attitude!
Great teaching video. Very well done. However, will not be spending $1000 on different lines to progress.. will just start with my existing fly line 😂
We\\Glad you liked the video - thanks for commenting. Totally understand about the lines 😂
hi simon
do you connect the slick shooter line directly to the reel or do you put some back on first and then connect
also does it matter wether you use a floating shooting head or an intermediate shooting head to practice the double haul
We checked with Simon, who says you put on your normal backing first, say ,100 yards of 20lb braid, and then attach the SlickShooter. This would be to fill the reel up and have less tight turns and memory in the SlickShooter. As for the density of the shooting head, if you are on grass it won't matter, but if you are on water you will certainly want a floating head
Great video! I found that learning to double haul is similar to learning how to pat your belly and rub your head at the same time when I was young.
Ha ha, so true!! Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for commenting.
why wouldn't I want to fish with an outbound short or a sink 25?
You can indeed, and it is a very good line for fishing. It is particularly designed for easy distance and casting big flies, so if you are dry fly fishing, it isn't a great line. Simon just advocates the progression of using more and more difficult lines to double haul with just to get better. 🙂
the best video
Great, so glad you enjoyed it...
I tried for days to get the haul right. After long time trying I have landed the motion and got it into two moves. The only part i am still struggling with is tge release at the end my line still falls flat
That will come with practice. Simply, though, the best time to release the line is the instant the rod stops the casting stroke - not a milli second earlier
So in order to properly double haul i need to spend 5 Thousand dollars in Rio products.
Not at all. You can learn with your regular WF line and have zero extra expense.
If you fish the flats or lots of lakes OK learn the double haul, otherwise you just don't need it. I learned it because I was supposed to to be a real fly fishermen. Never used it.
It's actually a great skill t o have even for short, 30ft casts as you use so much less effort than without.🙂