The one that gets me is the armchair experts saying "the air force never does that" or similar things along that line. I commented on one of the shorts that my father is a C-17 pilot, and while I'm not in myself I still live in the area around McChord and work with the Air Force. I've also spent time near Creston WA where they do low level training as well. These commentors have seemingly never experienced anything to do with these aircraft in the real world, but think so highly of themselves and what they know to make these calls. Everyone should be skeptical, but these guys' ego is out of control. This is the real deal, I've seen it myself. Great work man.
I would like to see this by seeing it in person like you did! Keechelus Lake by Snoqualmie pass, right? On the Iron Horse trail side? How do you know when the training routes will be active?
This is certainly not a fake. If it was, you would see at least 120 degrees of bank, missiles being fired and Sasquatch flying. Great video! Keep them coming. Even if .74M is pretty pedestrian.
@@trevorwert I should know this too. At 60 fpm along with overlaying frames of differing contrast… it looks “too good” lol! I have a DJI drone and absolutely should know this. I use LightCut to gain detail as well using some of the preprogrammed HDR. I’ve actually started playing around more with D-LOG and raw as well but it takes more knowledge and skill than just using jpg. I’ve learned that the higher detail and frame rate might look better on my end but could never get it to look much better once compressed by RUclips. Also, it would take hours to load at higher fps with higher pic density. Bottom line- your shit is good!!! Not easy to do! Not only takes being in the right place at right time but also understanding which setting to use in the current environment. Just huge props! Lastly, GREAT videos explaining. You don’t have to be some camera master to understand what you were explaining.👍👍👍👍
I think the video is real... but I'm doubting it a bit. So I will say that it looks so good it looks like a video game. I congratulate you on your great ability to film airplanes.
RUclips thought police removed a bunch of my comments on the original thread where I was pointing out that there's an Air Force airlift command squadron based about 30 miles away from where this was filmed and that similar flights took place in "Star Wars canyon" (aka Rainbow canyon in California) until a crash shut that route down. Vids can be found for planes flying that, though.
I always look at items in the background, like that traffic on the highway. Procedurally generated traffic still doesn't look as real as that. Also, the foliage at the end is definitely real. For a while I thought the entire background was at least partially real, but the planes could have been CGI. There are certainly moments where the underside and navigation lights look too crisp and perfect.
Have you ever seen a DCS video of a session set at MAX? It looks fantastic. I never said that the planes couldn't do it because I know they can. I have spent 100's of hours flying on DCS and it looks as real as your video. I believe you 100%, and it's not because of the quality of the video, it's because you said you took it. I'm cool with that. It's real as real can be. Props!
I’m not gonna lie… I wrote “Fake asf” on the last video… And to me it still does and it has nothing to do with the way it maneuvered… my opinion was solely based on how the video looked and which he obviously cleared up by explaining 4K HDR @60fps… I appreciate the time you took make this explanation video though lol… definitely cleared things up
Agreed anonymouse. I thought and said fake too because it just didn’t feel right. Not the aircraft action but the lack of motion blur. I think some people who are casual photographers with drones will feel like something is off in the videos. Well, I got schooled! Kind of glad I did because I learned a thing or two along the way.
@@fortyfour6626 Lol… so funny thing is, I work with videos and photo images all the time in job for investigative purposes… I understood everything he said… I was just too quick to judge… however in my/our defense lol… 90% of shorts on RUclips are either manipulated by AI or just trash videos. Additionally Im a retired military with extensive experience in C-17s both domestically and overseas in combat/contingency operations… Its a very capable aircraft… so much so, that in counterintelligence, in the SECRET realm, the C-17 is one highest priorities for technology protection (specifically against China)… again this is in the SECRET realm, there are higher priorities.
Still didn't explain how you managed to jump back to the second plan with perfectly square framing. I mean really no shaking, didn't go to far back or to short, and like I said couldn't have squared up the shot better if I had a stillshot of it.
Nice. I flown in a C17. The maneuverability wasn't what had me thinking it was a video game. It was the view as it passed overhead. It looked exactly like some game footage. Plus, the vantage point of the camera was odd. Good job explaining.
They're really impressive. I had the opportunity to fly in an AF C-17 simulator and do tactical takeoffs and landings. The descent rate with the reverse thrusters on is pretty wild.
Doesnt look natural at all. The hdr or one of your settings is ruining the quality. Even with the explanation it still looks like a flights sim video game. Got any footage from that spot without the heavy hdr and other settings? Edited for typos
It Was The Shutter That Did It To Me! 😂 I am used to a slow 6fps, and forget that there are much better "burst" rates out there! lol Your Shutter Duped Me! lol Shutter Envy & Lens Envy! lol
Yes, it is fake. Besides the MANY CGI artifacts you can see if you do a frame by frame, there is the fact that you see no jet blast on the water. The background is real, the planes are not.
You explained everything except the thing that tripped me up-how did you track so precisely “like a SAM site” onto the second C-17? Or was it using the tracking tool in post?
Good call! It was motion tracking in post, but I did lock onto it pretty quickly. I briefly mentioned that's why I shoot it horizontally, but didn't go into detail.
am more confused that why you didn't mention where this was filmed at. location is important. I know a place that resembles this area in the video. camera location, Washington State, c17 flying over Keechelus Lake. Drive on I-90 1hour east of Seattle. approximate Latitude 47°22'28.27"N Longitude 121°23'13.95"W . I know my area, me thinks;)
The comments are hilarious, my favorite is “it’s fake because you can hear cannon fire in the background”. That’s the CAMERA SHUTTER lmao
They all crack me up!
The one that gets me is the armchair experts saying "the air force never does that" or similar things along that line. I commented on one of the shorts that my father is a C-17 pilot, and while I'm not in myself I still live in the area around McChord and work with the Air Force. I've also spent time near Creston WA where they do low level training as well. These commentors have seemingly never experienced anything to do with these aircraft in the real world, but think so highly of themselves and what they know to make these calls. Everyone should be skeptical, but these guys' ego is out of control. This is the real deal, I've seen it myself. Great work man.
Couldn’t agree more! Thank you!
It's fake, it's a cloudy day. The shadow is sharp. A cloudy day does not produce sharp shadows.
Your patient rebuttal to the fake-mongers was so detailed that I subscribed :)
Haha thank you!
I would like to see this by seeing it in person like you did! Keechelus Lake by Snoqualmie pass, right? On the Iron Horse trail side? How do you know when the training routes will be active?
Most of the time it's luck. They typically fly during the week when the weather is nice.
@@trevorwert I'll have to give it a try sooner or later, thanks for responding!
This is certainly not a fake. If it was, you would see at least 120 degrees of bank, missiles being fired and Sasquatch flying. Great video! Keep them coming. Even if .74M is pretty pedestrian.
The Airforce is always flying through the Cascade Mountain Range along with the Columbia River, It's where they train.
Yep! So does the Navy and occasionally the Marines. I actually catch a lot of Navy EA-18G Growlers.
You should give this lesson to the folks who post Bigfoot videos. They always tend to use a potato for their vids.
That's a great idea!
I used to fly those, at that base, on that low level route. That video takes me back. What a beautiful place and beautiful, graceful aircraft.
Very cool!
I never doubted it, I've seen them in action. We had one do a flyby at an airshow and it was amazing what it did.
I appreciate that!
The lack of motion blur got me. Wow. I was for sure it was talented animation of some sort.
It's just the higher frame rate.
@@trevorwert I should know this too. At 60 fpm along with overlaying frames of differing contrast… it looks “too good” lol! I have a DJI drone and absolutely should know this. I use LightCut to gain detail as well using some of the preprogrammed HDR. I’ve actually started playing around more with D-LOG and raw as well but it takes more knowledge and skill than just using jpg. I’ve learned that the higher detail and frame rate might look better on my end but could never get it to look much better once compressed by RUclips. Also, it would take hours to load at higher fps with higher pic density. Bottom line- your shit is good!!! Not easy to do! Not only takes being in the right place at right time but also understanding which setting to use in the current environment. Just huge props! Lastly, GREAT videos explaining. You don’t have to be some camera master to understand what you were explaining.👍👍👍👍
I think the video is real... but I'm doubting it a bit. So I will say that it looks so good it looks like a video game. I congratulate you on your great ability to film airplanes.
Fair enough! Thank you!
RUclips thought police removed a bunch of my comments on the original thread where I was pointing out that there's an Air Force airlift command squadron based about 30 miles away from where this was filmed and that similar flights took place in "Star Wars canyon" (aka Rainbow canyon in California) until a crash shut that route down. Vids can be found for planes flying that, though.
Interestingly enough the C-17s can still do VFR through there because they’re below 250 knots instead of the 300+ on the VR-routes.
I always look at items in the background, like that traffic on the highway. Procedurally generated traffic still doesn't look as real as that. Also, the foliage at the end is definitely real. For a while I thought the entire background was at least partially real, but the planes could have been CGI. There are certainly moments where the underside and navigation lights look too crisp and perfect.
This isn't fake I've seen this couple times with my own eyes
Thanks!
Have you ever seen a DCS video of a session set at MAX? It looks fantastic. I never said that the planes couldn't do it because I know they can. I have spent 100's of hours flying on DCS and it looks as real as your video. I believe you 100%, and it's not because of the quality of the video, it's because you said you took it. I'm cool with that. It's real as real can be. Props!
Thank you! I've actually never played DCS. I have too many other hobbies that cost too much lol.
I’m not gonna lie… I wrote “Fake asf” on the last video… And to me it still does and it has nothing to do with the way it maneuvered… my opinion was solely based on how the video looked and which he obviously cleared up by explaining 4K HDR @60fps…
I appreciate the time you took make this explanation video though lol… definitely cleared things up
Thanks for watching! You weren't the only one who thought it was fake lol.
Agreed anonymouse. I thought and said fake too because it just didn’t feel right. Not the aircraft action but the lack of motion blur. I think some people who are casual photographers with drones will feel like something is off in the videos. Well, I got schooled! Kind of glad I did because I learned a thing or two along the way.
@@fortyfour6626 Lol… so funny thing is, I work with videos and photo images all the time in job for investigative purposes… I understood everything he said… I was just too quick to judge… however in my/our defense lol… 90% of shorts on RUclips are either manipulated by AI or just trash videos.
Additionally Im a retired military with extensive experience in C-17s both domestically and overseas in combat/contingency operations… Its a very capable aircraft… so much so, that in counterintelligence, in the SECRET realm, the C-17 is one highest priorities for technology protection (specifically against China)… again this is in the SECRET realm, there are higher priorities.
I have worked for this huge take back
Still didn't explain how you managed to jump back to the second plan with perfectly square framing. I mean really no shaking, didn't go to far back or to short, and like I said couldn't have squared up the shot better if I had a stillshot of it.
I never was questioning the capability of the aircraft or pilots but just the video in general
That's a good call. Part of it was that I knew right where it was the whole time, and the other part was motion tracking in post production.
Practice! Have to have a lot of experience/practice with your equipment.
Nice. I flown in a C17. The maneuverability wasn't what had me thinking it was a video game. It was the view as it passed overhead. It looked exactly like some game footage. Plus, the vantage point of the camera was odd. Good job explaining.
Thanks! Much appreciated
This is real like me as a Rome soldier.
Fair enough… I digress and defer 👏🏽 Well done…
Lookup “C-17 corkscrew landing”… Its how we landed often in both Iraq and Afghanistan
They're really impressive. I had the opportunity to fly in an AF C-17 simulator and do tactical takeoffs and landings. The descent rate with the reverse thrusters on is pretty wild.
Great footage no matter how or if technology is used in capturing the clips ! 👌
Thank you!
100% real seen this first hand myself.
Nice! Pretty dang impressive
Doesnt look natural at all. The hdr or one of your settings is ruining the quality. Even with the explanation it still looks like a flights sim video game. Got any footage from that spot without the heavy hdr and other settings?
Edited for typos
I probably have some videos that don’t have HDR, I’ll have to look.
@@trevorwert cool, thanks!
@@Josh-ew1lethe trees/shadows definitely look odd at the end, thats what threw me off
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I can believe that.
Sweet!
It Was The Shutter That Did It To Me! 😂 I am used to a slow 6fps, and forget that there are much better "burst" rates out there! lol
Your Shutter Duped Me! lol
Shutter Envy & Lens Envy! lol
My new one is even faster, and it's silent. It's pretty nuts! I was at Nellis and took 2,000 photos in an hour without even realizing it😅
Yes, it is fake. Besides the MANY CGI artifacts you can see if you do a frame by frame, there is the fact that you see no jet blast on the water. The background is real, the planes are not.
I did go through it frame by frame... The planes aren't close enough to the water to disturb the water. They would need to be much lower.
And any disturbance would be far behind the aircraft as it sinks alowly.
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This is so fake
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Nope its real. They fly very low east of Moses Lake
Yep!
You explained everything except the thing that tripped me up-how did you track so precisely “like a SAM site” onto the second C-17?
Or was it using the tracking tool in post?
Good call! It was motion tracking in post, but I did lock onto it pretty quickly. I briefly mentioned that's why I shoot it horizontally, but didn't go into detail.
Experience
Tarter sauce
Fake AF!!
Totally
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Yes, 100%.
am more confused that why you didn't mention where this was filmed at. location is important. I know a place that resembles this area in the video. camera location, Washington State, c17 flying over Keechelus Lake. Drive on I-90 1hour east of Seattle. approximate Latitude 47°22'28.27"N Longitude 121°23'13.95"W . I know my area, me thinks;)
I don't give out specific locations of where I go.