If only you could accidentally show up on my families doorstep. I've prayed for the opportunity to share these truths with them. Unfortunately as the only exmormon, I'm sort of the black sheep who they would never listen too. A stranger stands a better chance than me.
Love you brother. I pray that more people will be emboldened and supported by their local Church Elders to go out and preach at their local LDS Ward meeting houses. When that happens they might just show up at your families local Ward building brother. Praying for you and your family.
@@apologiautah Thank you for listening to Gods call. Apologia is an inspiration to me. I'm working with a small church plant in Idaho. I'm praying to find some willing and able brothers to go to with me and reach out to my Mormon neighbors and friends. I know personally how much LDS community lives inside it's own bubble. They will never wander outside that bubble. Someone must go to them. Thank you so much and may God bless you brothers with the support and resources you need. I'll continue praying for you and appreciate your prayers as well.
such a curious family dynamic when advice from a stranger would be looked at objectively when that same advice from a direct family member (mother, father, son, daughter) would not be evaluated
I'm right there with you being the only ex-Mormon in my family. Some of them are in Orem, so I hope they run into Apologia sometime. And same here, I'm the black sheep that no one will listen to as well.😅 I'm happy you found the truth too.
Joseph Smith was a genius. He got people to believe that contending for the truth "takes the spirit away" to prevent them from ever questioning LDS doctrine. Joseph was a con, but you gotta admit, he was brilliant, lol. Now that I am a bible-believing Christian, I understand the danger of that teaching - Jude 1:3,"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" . Of course, telling people they can't trust the bible is the most dangerous thing that Joseph taught, but to even go as far as to say that contending "takes the spirit away" is a way of keeping them trapped in there.
and this is why when talking with them I will answer their objections before they have a chance to bring them up. My purpose is to lovingly remove the blinders that the enemy has put over their eyes. 2 Cor. 4:4.
The Apostle John prophesied and said... " And I saw an angel flying in the midst of Heaven BRINGING THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL TO PREACH TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH before the great and terrible day of the coming of the Lord." Perhaps you can explain to me WHY God Almighty would find it necessary to send an Angel to bring the Everlasting Gospel to preach to the inhabitants of the earth IF the Bible ALREADY contains the Everlasting Gospel. Clearly the Bible doesn't contain the Everlasting Gospel... And you say Moroni was a fallen angel? How and why do you draw that conclusion? And if I were to concede to your subjective opinion and evidence and concede Moroni a fallen angel? Then you would have to by default!!!??? Have to agree the whole of Christianity is STILL waiting for the angel prophesied of, by John! To yet be fulfilled! Unless of course John's prophecy was a false prophecy. Yes!!!??? The whole of Christianity declares the Bible is All God ever Intended for us to have. The Bible is the complete and inerrant Word of God. The whole of so called Christianity fails and falls on this false satanic Doctrine. The angel flying in the midst of Heaven BRINGING THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL TO PREACH was indeed the angel Moroni who delivered that ancient scriptural record we have today as the Book of Mormon translated by the prophet Joseph Smith and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints IS the Kingdom of God here on earth today. God Bless 😊😊😊
Thank you for the new work you are starting in UT! I once was just like that man, using Joseph Smith’s blurred lenses to attempt to understand the Bible. The LDS indoctrination is very deep. But God’s power and grace to reach His people, incomparable.
Please keep these encouraging outreach videos coming. They are an outreach to more than just the gentleman in the video to whom the truth is being shared. So encouraging also in equipping me to lovingly share truth with LDS neighbours. God bless.
Galatians 1:9 (KJV) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Yes, it can be difficult to reference Bible verses on the spot, even for Mormons! Apologia Utah will be exhausted trying to convert Mormons in the heartland and headquarters of Mormons!
Yeah, they got their work cut out for them! lol (most christian churches just don't have any more relevant info other than how they interpret the bible) While the LDS faith have living prophets, additional scriptures, temples, the pre-mortal life knowledge, they know the nature of God (the father). So again, it'd be a "tough sell"
" how do you know there is no new revelation"?... That's when you say we have the whole Bible including Revelation, which contains things that haven't happened yet... That is all the new revelation you need right at our fingertips
You can witness to them too!!! Learn about GRACE so that you can share what it means with them. Ask your mormon friends to define all the terms that they use and go off of that 🙏 they used the same terms we do but have different meanings. Grace is defined different in mormonism and so is, sin, eternal life, Heaven and Hell, etc so ask them to define EVERYTHING. Most importantly, pray for The Holy Spirit to guide you 🙌❤️
It’s sad to see this guy not understand what the savior taught. Love the way members of the church are confident and other Christian’s sound desperate.
The book of Revelation says anyone adding or subtracting from that revelation would be cursed . Joseph Smith added to that revelation. End of story. We must also use Deutronomy 13 and 18 as the binary test for a prophet. Smith fails both in huge spades.
This is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Bible. We are not to add or subtract from John's revelation. He saw what he saw, and no one can add or subtract from that vision. The book of Revelation was not the last book written in the Bible, just placed as the last book, so that interpretation is nonsense.
Books after "Revelations" were also added (chronologically speaking of course). John was talking about the book of revelations! (not the bible, nor any additional writings of prophets in the world at the time, writing about Christ)! Most evangelicals, misunderstand that passage! IF there are "false" prophets, then there "logically speaking" would be "true prophets"! (So if that is the case, where are they)?
The "Lineage" is that Jesus and God (the father) came down to help "clarify" what had been missing for almost 2k years. Then the apostles Peter, James and John - restored the authority to run Jesus church (while he was gone) as in days of old! Isiah (old testament) even prophesized of this day! So lots of lineage! IF that isnt Christianity, then I don't know what is!
Brothers, please slow down and show love. Three of you are talking to one man who has been trained to believe that Christians are lost. Give him time to let him answer and work through the his thoughts. Many Mormons have never been presented with these ideas. Remember that love is the greatest witness of Jesus Christ and without it we have nothing. “And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.” I Corinthians 13:13 NKJV
My nephew was a christian for many years and now has become a mormon 😢 i can't believe that he switched to a cult instead Is Mormon and Latter Day Saints the same religion or are they separate religions ?
Not at all. A different God, different Christ, and different gospel. Go to CARM > World Religions > Mormonism Also, Got Questions Many other great ministries reaching out to the Mormons.
Mormons, Latter-day Saints (LDS) and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are all the same thing, just different names for the same group headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah. It needs to be said they have a different god, a different Jesus, a different gospel, and a different message than the Bible and Christians. Suffice it to say Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
*Mormons claim their church is the one true church* and all Christians Churches are wrong and an abomination. Mormons claim everyone needs to join their church, pay them 10% of your total income, get a Temple Recommend from a Mormon bishop so you may participate in a Temple Endowment Rituals, perform baptism of the dead rituals, which includes, giving Masonic type handshakes, saying secret passwords, wearing underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols, and do much more. All so you possibly, maybe, perhaps, have eternal life becoming a Mormon polygamist exalted man god or his goddess wife. Where as the Bible and Christian message is to have forgiveness of sin and God’s gift of eternal life in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is through faith and trust in Jesus Christ only and not through any church. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23) “For the wages of sin is death; but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST our Lord” (Romans 6:23) “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is *the gift of God:* Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2: 8-9) Jesus said, “…know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
Here’s one for you: Joseph Smith said it is missing many plain and precious parts. LDS says there can be translation errors, But We can look at the translations because now we have all the languages and the ability to compare the translations. With the LDS church does not say that many things are completely A lie in the KJV BIBLE. Every contradiction that they have when you keep bringing up text, you need to point out, notate that and go back figure out the proper translation or figure out if God was lying.
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! (Paul’s Letter to Galatians)
That's the thing... Moroni delivered the Everlasting Gospel which was and IS the very same Gospel preached. And if it wasn't or isn't the angel Moroni who delivered that Everlasting Gospel? Then you are ALL still waiting for that angel John PROPHESIED of are you not. Perhaps you can explain to me WHY God Almighty would find it necessary to send an Angel to bring the Everlasting Gospel IF the Everlasting Gospel is ALREADY contained in the Bible. Clearly the Bible is not all God intended for us to have. Either that OR John made a false prophecy? And therefore would mean John is was a false prophet?
Up until the 20th minute, I was hoping that you would share how we can know God and not just who God is. The works righteous Mormon doctrine is opposed to the historic Christian doctrine of justification by faith alone (Romans 3:19-28). It is ALL the work of Christ IMPUTED to us.
Jesus isn't Three person , I will always work I'm talking about this baptized Jesus the voice having came down heaven and said beholders this is my son . So you saying the when Jesus' come out of the water . He throw his voice into heaven. That Christ is not three in one. That scripture in Matthew proves that.
These guys are so conflated in their proselytizing, always trying to corner someone, when they have absolutely no clue about the Doctrine of Christ. I believe these guys are the ones teaching another gospel, teaching that you don't need tp be baptized to be saved in the Kingdom of God.
This has always been a stumbling block for the LDS faith, they reject the Trinity and believe in a more simplistic manner of "many Gods" because they always go back to when Jesus was baptized, how a voice spoke from heaven and the Holy Spirit descended "like a dove" or however it is phrased. They take this completely out of context, not understanding contextual reading of the Scriptures. For most LDS folk, they always fall back to their "testimony" and go back to everything they were taught about their "feelings" and I have seen many LDS members who never felt that "feeling" they are told they are supposed to get, but to keep praying more until they do get that feeling. This is very deceptive and sad to see. I would likely ask, Why do we need to pray about something if it is true or not, when God has already told us what is true and what is not? I would ask them what tests they use to determine if a prophet is false or not? How do they test the spirits, etc. Most or nearly all of them will be unable to give you a Biblical answer, and thus, I like to point to Deut 13 and 18. Ultimately, all we can do is provide information, show them God's word, for His word can never return void, and pray for them, that the Lord will be merciful and open their eyes to the truth. It is a very hard thing for many LDS members, especially those in leadership roles, to leave the LDS faith, because it can cause their marriage to end, lose friends, and possibly even their job. 2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if you receive another spirit, which you have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted, you might well bear with him.” What this means is Paul is warning us about following a false doctrine, a false Christ, and that he believed some would be deceived because they do not test those teachings against what has already been given to them by Jesus and the apostles. I might even go so far as to mention to them, that as a born against Christian, we have the surety of our salvation that they would call the "2nd anointing", because Jesus tells us we are his, when we trust in his finished works at the cross, for it is by Grace through faith alone that we are saved, and not by any works. Point out that we are not born of God, but made sons and daughters by "adoption" and point out those passages to them. At the end of the day, providing questions that they will hopefully think about, such as asking them if they 100% know where they would go if they were to die this very day, or what assurances does the LDS faith give them that they will obtain the Celestial kingdom and obtain Exaltation? Show them it is by their own works, doing ordinances and so on, they must do according to their faith, which is counter to what Jesus told us.
These people claim that LDS members are not Christians, but I disagree with them. They argue that we believe in a different Christ as taught in the Bible. It is clear, however, that they believe in salvation by grace alone, while LDS believe in salvation by a combination of grace and works. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments, or be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect, or repentance that look like tons of works, and so on. Maybe they did not believe in Jesus Christ after all. And they judged the LDS will go to hell because of their understanding and interpretation of the Bible.
Guys just preach acts 2:38 repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost!!! Glory to God it is for you and your children and all nations everyone has to obey this scripture!!!!!
Can you imagine if someone walked up to you and started using the quotes and faults of Calvin or Luther to prove your faith is based on a faulty human?
The thing is Christians don’t regard Calvin or Luther as prophets of God. We don’t care if they’re right or wrong-our faith rests upon Christ and His word
The Bible teaches many things! Baptism necessary: (Mark 16:16, John 3:3-5, 1 Corinthians 15:29), Apostles/Prophets in his church: (1 Corinthians 12:28, Ephesians 2:19-20, 4:5, 4:11-14, Amos 3:7), the Apostasy: (Amos 8:11-12, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Isaiah 24:5), the restoration: (Acts 3:20-21, Ephesians 1:10), the book of Mormon: (Ezekiel 37:16-20, Isaiah 29:11-14), need for temples: (1 Corinthians 15:29, Matthew 16:19), spirit world: (John 5:25 & 28-28). 3 kingdoms/heavens: (2 Corinthians 12:2, 1 Corinthians 15:40-42) We are God's children and can become as he is (Romans 8:16-17), we are saved by grace through faith, and faith is an action word and includes works, not just belief: (Matthew 7:21, James 2:14-26, Mark 16:16)
Of course there are prophets today! The Bible says your young men will have visions and your old men will have dreams. These are prophetic. God picks people randomly, not in a line like Mormons choose them.
God is a person (and "one being") not 3 people in one (as was "constructed" 400+ years in the council of nicea) Jesus himself taught us who God is! He said (before his ascension): I now go to "My God and your God" to my father and your father! (Jesus didnt ascend to himself). Jesus was talking about "God" as His Father! (The apostle stephen also saw both "Jesus and God the Father" together but separate (which hows the nature of God)! Jesus is also a god (of his own) + is our Savoir!
here is the "ironic" thing. apologetics studio are calvinists. calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are. ... thus god also created evil. therefore since calvinists believe god created evil. they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin. calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. (of course ... they smugly think they are among the "chosen" to be saved without a shred of evidence) and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation. since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ. thus calvinists are not christians. in fact ... calvinists are exactly like muslims in their thought process. mormons do not believe god created evil. mormons believe god gave every human free will. mormons believe everyone can be saved, because god sent jesus to take the sins of every human upon himself. and therefor all humans who accepts christ's sacrifice can be saved. mormons are more christian than calvinists.
@@Wachary1 the bible refutes you. jesus is the "son of god" therefor he was created by god the father. the scriptures declare we are children of god. created in his image. the scriptures declare we will inherit all christ has. if christ is a "god" then so will we be god's. it is simple biblical doctrine.
@@grayman7208 John 1 Collossians 1:16 Show Jesus created all things include us, and Satan. He eternally existed as God. Nowhere in the Bible does it say otherwise. Can I ask you why there are so many contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the D&C? (I can provided those contradictions with references) Why Joseph smith married other men’s wives, and teenage girls and lied about it publicly and to his wife? Why in Alma it says that Jesus is the very eternal father? Why the Book of Mormon for the most part sounds like the Bible, but Joseph’s later revelations go against both the Bible and the Book of Mormon. And why in the Book of Mormon is included translation errors word for word from the Bible in 3 Nephi that would have been in the Bible Joseph used proving he used the Bible to plagiarize? And why the Egyptian scroll he used to write the pearl of great price had nothing to do with what he wrote? And why Joseph said he did greater a greater work than Jesus and gave false prophecies. Why 9 versions of the first vision? Why all the witnesses who never even saw the physical gold plates all later left the church, but the apostles of Christ were willing to die for their faith? Why does Isaiah say God is the first and the last and besides him there is no God? He says he doesn’t even know of any other Gods and you believe you can become one? Why does the Book of Mormon premise mirror a book called View of the Hebrews so closely. A book that was written by Ethan Smith who was Oliver Cowdry’s pastor? Why all the anachronisms in the Book of Mormon? Why the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy? It couldn’t be more apparent this religion is false and he was a false prophet. There exists proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@grayman7208 John 1 Collossians 1:16 Say Jesus created all things and eternally existed. This means he created Satan and us and is not our brother. Can I ask a few things? Why does the Book of Mormon directly contradict the D&C so many times? (I can provide examples and references) Why the Egyptian scroll Joseph used to write the Pearl of great price has nothing to do with what he wrote? And the Egyptian alphabet he made up is completely wrong? Why he married other men’s wives, and teenage girls and lied about it publicly and to his wife? Why all the witnesses to the Book of Mormon later left the faith, but only saw the plates with their minds eye? While the apostles of Christ all died for their faith? Why 3 Nephi contains mistranslations that existed in the Bible Joseph would have used, proving he used it to plagiarize? Why 9 versions of the first vision? Why Joseph claimed to have done greater works than Jesus and had false prophecies? Why does the Book of Mormon say in Alma that Jesus is the very eternal father? When Mormons don’t even believe that? Why Isaiah says God is the first and last and besides him there is no God, and that he doesn’t even know if any other Gods? Why you tell me the Bible refutes me when you don’t even trust what the Bible says? Why so many anachronisms in the Book of Mormon? Why a massive battle took place near the hill camorah and not a single piece of archeological evidence to show for it? Why Joseph Smith said he saw the angel Nephi and changed it to Moroni later? Why Joseph was telling his family n book of Mormon stories years before he ever received the plates? Why the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy? Why temple ceremonies are the same as Masonic rituals as well as many of the signs and token and symbols used? Why the Book of Mormon closely resembles a book called View of the Hebrews written my a man named Ethan Smith who was the Paster at the church Oliver Cowdry attended?
So, for 10 % of my income and 10 % of my net worth, I can become a Mormon god and get my own planet. I also get to wear magic underwear and vote for Mitt Romney?
Also no more coffee, you can’t do anything on Sundays, you have to get “called” to whatever they want you to do for basically free community service, they make you meet with the bishop at the end of the year on a 1 on 1 meeting to prove you’ve been paying tithing, you have to go to their temples and do community service and baptize dead people, they basically have complete control of your life. All you have to do is turn away from the Word of God and all that could be yours!
Elohim El and Eloha are ways or saying God. Elohim is a plural word of a singular component. It is a mix of single and plural in a method not done in proper grammar as a standard. If it was multiple Gods it would be Els. Obviously you need to read all this in the proper language and understand the grammar rules to fully understand. It is Elohim because (as mentioned elsewhere in the Torah) God is one. But as demonstrated when the Holy Spirit descended like a dove, Jesus in the river, and the Father in heaven God was in three locations and beings at once while being one God. Remember when Jesus said “I AM” and they picked up stones to kill him for claiming to be God? The way it was said to Abraham is grammatically not normal because God is saying he is in all tenses -past, present, future- at all times. The grammar is the same thing here. Bring up Elohim to an educated Jew who understands the language and they just say it’s a mystery we can’t understand, push for more and they get mad and end conversation because it points to the trinity. But in no way shape or form does it point to multiple Gods, and is not a name like Bob or Fred. Mormons/ LDS/ about to change the accepted name again (I was LDS IN 1970s & 1980s) They accept what J Smith said as an interpretation that it is God the father’s name. Go figure- he got all kinds of interpretations and translations wrong many times. Aka salamander, book of Abraham…
Answer you about the Bible the Bible is made up of 6,000 squirrels of the Dead Sea. The book have left out they left out the book of ruth.So that's all is not in it. So that' alot of books left out. That were supposed to be in Bible .The Bible is not a finished book and if you say about Revelations book about all. Now that Matthew is a book John is a book and so on .
I agree that the LDS church is man made but I also think that Christianity is just the same. It's just older and now I've left can see that it's just the same as all the rest. I have found no "good" evidence for christianity, Hinduism or Islamic religions. Please may I ask why you believe in your religion? Thanks Gray
Such a great question. Like Why would a god create us out of nothing to come down and be "saved" without doing anything, and putting us through pain? That doesn't make sense to me. But your first question is key. Why does this "Mormon" hater believe something? How is anyone supposed to know if God is real. If an atonement and a savior are required and why? If there is a God why did he create the earth? Gray, Also a question about evidence, like why would a god not want factual evidence, is their reasoning behind that? Like why isn't an angel down here every day telling us what up?
@@clearstonewindows I fully agree. When you say "Like Why would a god create us out of nothing to come down and be "saved" without doing anything, and putting us through pain? That doesn't make sense to me." At the start before the rest of the question is where is the 'good' evidence for the deity that supposedly created everything. Best to you -Gray
@@grayintheuk8021 I think the question about why God would create earth (or you anything) would lead to an answer of "What (if any) "good" evidence there would be of a God? Why would someone take the time to create something like us that has free will? Why do Parents have Children? Also, if you are a parent or maybe you're dating, do you want someone with free will to love you because they want to, or because you make them? If I yell and scream at my 3-year-old to pick up their toys, did they have a choice in the matter? Gray, do you think you have choices and free will? Do you think you exist?
@@clearstonewindows As far as I can tell I am not a brain in a vat. Even if I was this is what I have to deal with. I don't think we have libertarianism which is an incompatibilist position that argues that free will is logically incompatible with a deterministic universe. Do you walk out of the office or are you dragged out of the office? So I do not believe in anything supernatural. Including gods, fairies, devils and troll under bridges waiting for goats. Do you think there is a god then?
@@grayintheuk8021 yes I do believe there is a God. In part because I have free will. I too do not think I am in the matrix 😉. But there is more than just free will. It's having morality. Why is wrong wrong and we feel that?
@@Wachary1 Your comment perfectly reveal, your extreme lack of knowledge, of the fullness and the truthfulness of, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
Oh, I feel sorry for this fellow LDS. You cannot win over these professed Christians, bro. They know the Bible like the back of their hands. Let us read and study the Bible. Their belief in Christ is distorted., taught by the precepts of men mingled with scripture but that do not mean they are true.
@@Formerlyknownas7435 Form a relationship of trust, so that you truly care about them as a son or daughter of God, they know that you care about them, help foster an environment where they’re willing to listen to you and the Scriptures are sharing with them. I don’t know just an idea
@@Sayheybrother8 what if there isn't time? Its important to share the Gospel. John the baptizer and Jesus said repent! For the kingdom of God is at hand! Too many churches want to make friends and entertain. These guys are very respectful. There are many who are very confrontational and mock the lds. They just want to argue. But these guys here are presenting truth and do it respectfully. Sorry but I don't see a problem with it
Okay, I’ll point out the things I have in common with LDS theology. I believe in the five offices being for today Eph 4:11, I believe in a spiritual witness and God speaks, I believe in all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. But I don’t believe any LDS doctrine is inspired and I think it comes from Satan. The LDS Godhead is not biblical nor is it’s gospel. Temple work is a spirit in the face of the cross and the veil being rent into Matt 27:51. But all the things I agree with the LDS church in do not compare to the PRIMARY issues I disagree with them on.
@@prayerwarrior7778 Do you think having to be baptized for salvation is not an inspired LDS doctrine? Why, then, are there 13+ verses in the New Testament that says that it is? Yet, the mainstream Christian churches cannot come to an agreement as to whether or not it is, and none of them teach it as they cannot reconcile what happens to the believer that for whatever reason dies without baptism. If you can't understand basic doctrine, none of the other eternal stuff these guys focus on matters.
Well played fellas. The Spirit moved in this one.. he walked away shook. Praise God for truth.
If only you could accidentally show up on my families doorstep. I've prayed for the opportunity to share these truths with them. Unfortunately as the only exmormon, I'm sort of the black sheep who they would never listen too. A stranger stands a better chance than me.
Love you brother. I pray that more people will be emboldened and supported by their local Church Elders to go out and preach at their local LDS Ward meeting houses.
When that happens they might just show up at your families local Ward building brother.
Praying for you and your family.
@@apologiautah Thank you for listening to Gods call. Apologia is an inspiration to me. I'm working with a small church plant in Idaho. I'm praying to find some willing and able brothers to go to with me and reach out to my Mormon neighbors and friends. I know personally how much LDS community lives inside it's own bubble. They will never wander outside that bubble. Someone must go to them. Thank you so much and may God bless you brothers with the support and resources you need. I'll continue praying for you and appreciate your prayers as well.
such a curious family dynamic when advice from a stranger would be looked at objectively when that same advice from a direct family member (mother, father, son, daughter) would not be evaluated
You may have more influence than you think remember it’s God who gives increase and favor
I'm right there with you being the only ex-Mormon in my family. Some of them are in Orem, so I hope they run into Apologia sometime. And same here, I'm the black sheep that no one will listen to as well.😅 I'm happy you found the truth too.
Joseph Smith was a genius. He got people to believe that contending for the truth "takes the spirit away" to prevent them from ever questioning LDS doctrine. Joseph was a con, but you gotta admit, he was brilliant, lol. Now that I am a bible-believing Christian, I understand the danger of that teaching - Jude 1:3,"Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" . Of course, telling people they can't trust the bible is the most dangerous thing that Joseph taught, but to even go as far as to say that contending "takes the spirit away" is a way of keeping them trapped in there.
He was a free mason who did speak to the ‘fallen angel Moroni’. He was deceived and deceived others.
Smith the genius is now burning in Hell.😅
A Genius is a complement that dirtbag was nothing more than a con artist.
and this is why when talking with them I will answer their objections before they have a chance to bring them up. My purpose is to lovingly remove the blinders that the enemy has put over their eyes. 2 Cor. 4:4.
The Apostle John prophesied and said...
" And I saw an angel flying in the midst of Heaven BRINGING THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL TO PREACH TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH before the great and terrible day of the coming of the Lord."
Perhaps you can explain to me WHY God Almighty would find it necessary to send an Angel to bring the Everlasting Gospel to preach to the inhabitants of the earth IF the Bible ALREADY contains the Everlasting Gospel.
Clearly the Bible doesn't contain the Everlasting Gospel...
And you say Moroni was a fallen angel?
How and why do you draw that conclusion?
And if I were to concede to your subjective opinion and evidence and concede Moroni a fallen angel?
Then you would have to by default!!!??? Have to agree the whole of Christianity is STILL waiting for the angel prophesied of, by John! To yet be fulfilled!
Unless of course John's prophecy was a false prophecy. Yes!!!???
The whole of Christianity declares the Bible is All God ever Intended for us to have.
The Bible is the complete and inerrant Word of God.
The whole of so called Christianity fails and falls on this false satanic Doctrine.
The angel flying in the midst of Heaven BRINGING THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL TO PREACH was indeed the angel Moroni who delivered that ancient scriptural record we have today as the Book of Mormon translated by the prophet Joseph Smith and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints IS the Kingdom of God here on earth today.
God Bless 😊😊😊
I was Lds i love those beautiful people ❤️ God bless and save them.
Are you still lds? (why did you leave)?
Thank you for the new work you are starting in UT!
I once was just like that man, using Joseph Smith’s blurred lenses to attempt to understand the Bible.
The LDS indoctrination is very deep. But God’s power and grace to reach His people, incomparable.
Praise God for His grace in your life Sister! Thank you for the comment and blessing.
I thank Mr Mormon for just having this conversation. This helps me prepare for my encounters with them❤
If you have any questions (on the LDS faith) I'd be happy to answer! :)
Please keep these encouraging outreach videos coming. They are an outreach to more than just the gentleman in the video to whom the truth is being shared. So encouraging also in equipping me to lovingly share truth with LDS neighbours. God bless.
This was amazing!! I love it!
Galatians 1:9 (KJV) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Yes, it can be difficult to reference Bible verses on the spot, even for Mormons! Apologia Utah will be exhausted trying to convert Mormons in the heartland and headquarters of Mormons!
Yeah, they got their work cut out for them! lol (most christian churches just don't have any more relevant info other than how they interpret the bible) While the LDS faith have living prophets, additional scriptures, temples, the pre-mortal life knowledge, they know the nature of God (the father). So again, it'd be a "tough sell"
" how do you know there is no new revelation"?... That's when you say we have the whole Bible including Revelation, which contains things that haven't happened yet... That is all the new revelation you need right at our fingertips
But if the bible answers "all questions" (then why so many faiths)? Which one is right then (If that is important)
I pray y’all casually run into my Mormon friends
You can witness to them too!!! Learn about GRACE so that you can share what it means with them. Ask your mormon friends to define all the terms that they use and go off of that 🙏 they used the same terms we do but have different meanings. Grace is defined different in mormonism and so is, sin, eternal life, Heaven and Hell, etc so ask them to define EVERYTHING. Most importantly, pray for The Holy Spirit to guide you 🙌❤️
Read Dueteronomy chapters 13 and 18 for what God has to say about false prophets
It’s sad to see this guy not understand what the savior taught. Love the way members of the church are confident and other Christian’s sound desperate.
Modern day revelations no longer necessary since the biblical canon is closed. All has been revealed that needs to be.
The book of Revelation says anyone adding or subtracting from that revelation would be cursed . Joseph Smith added to that revelation. End of story. We must also use Deutronomy 13 and 18 as the binary test for a prophet. Smith fails both in huge spades.
I would think since this is a public street that they may not have to get permission. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy in public areas.
This is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Bible. We are not to add or subtract from John's revelation. He saw what he saw, and no one can add or subtract from that vision. The book of Revelation was not the last book written in the Bible, just placed as the last book, so that interpretation is nonsense.
Books after "Revelations" were also added (chronologically speaking of course). John was talking about the book of revelations! (not the bible, nor any additional writings of prophets in the world at the time, writing about Christ)! Most evangelicals, misunderstand that passage! IF there are "false" prophets, then there "logically speaking" would be "true prophets"! (So if that is the case, where are they)?
There is NO direct lineage between the start of Christianity and Mormonism. It is not an offshoot of Christianity.
The "Lineage" is that Jesus and God (the father) came down to help "clarify" what had been missing for almost 2k years. Then the apostles Peter, James and John - restored the authority to run Jesus church (while he was gone) as in days of old! Isiah (old testament) even prophesized of this day! So lots of lineage! IF that isnt Christianity, then I don't know what is!
Brothers, please slow down and show love. Three of you are talking to one man who has been trained to believe that Christians are lost. Give him time to let him answer and work through the his thoughts. Many Mormons have never been presented with these ideas. Remember that love is the greatest witness of Jesus Christ and without it we have nothing.
“And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.”
I Corinthians 13:13 NKJV
My nephew was a christian for many years and now has become a mormon 😢 i can't believe that he switched to a cult instead
Is Mormon and Latter Day Saints the same religion or are they separate religions ?
Not at all. A different God, different Christ, and different gospel.
Go to CARM > World Religions > Mormonism
Also, Got Questions
Many other great ministries reaching out to the Mormons.
Mormons, Latter-day Saints (LDS) and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are all the same thing, just different names for the same group headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah. It needs to be said they have a different god, a different Jesus, a different gospel, and a different message than the Bible and Christians. Suffice it to say Christians are not Mormon and Mormons are not Christian.
*Mormons claim their church is the one true church* and all Christians Churches are wrong and an abomination. Mormons claim everyone needs to join their church, pay them 10% of your total income, get a Temple Recommend from a Mormon bishop so you may participate in a Temple Endowment Rituals, perform baptism of the dead rituals, which includes, giving Masonic type handshakes, saying secret passwords, wearing underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols, and do much more. All so you possibly, maybe, perhaps, have eternal life becoming a Mormon polygamist exalted man god or his goddess wife.
Where as the Bible and Christian message is to have forgiveness of sin and God’s gift of eternal life in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is through faith and trust in Jesus Christ only and not through any church.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
“For the wages of sin is death; but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST our Lord” (Romans 6:23)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is *the gift of God:* Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2: 8-9)
Jesus said, “…know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
Here’s one for you: Joseph Smith said it is missing many plain and precious parts.
LDS says there can be translation errors, But We can look at the translations because now we have all the languages and the ability to compare the translations.
With the LDS church does not say that many things are completely A lie in the KJV BIBLE.
Every contradiction that they have when you keep bringing up text, you need to point out, notate that and go back figure out the proper translation or figure out if God was lying.
Do these people know they are on camera? I didn't hear him give permission. It looks like a hidden camera.
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! (Paul’s Letter to Galatians)
That's the thing... Moroni delivered the Everlasting Gospel which was and IS the very same Gospel preached.
And if it wasn't or isn't the angel Moroni who delivered that Everlasting Gospel? Then you are ALL still waiting for that angel John PROPHESIED of are you not.
Perhaps you can explain to me WHY God Almighty would find it necessary to send an Angel to bring the Everlasting Gospel IF the Everlasting Gospel is ALREADY contained in the Bible.
Clearly the Bible is not all God intended for us to have. Either that OR John made a false prophecy? And therefore would mean John is was a false prophet?
Let’s just stand together as Christian’s.
Up until the 20th minute, I was hoping that you would share how we can know God and not just who God is. The works righteous Mormon doctrine is opposed to the historic Christian doctrine of justification by faith alone (Romans 3:19-28). It is ALL the work of Christ IMPUTED to us.
Tou said tou weren't there to argue
Um… jehovah and yahweh are the same word in Hebrew guys…
Jesus isn't Three person , I will always work I'm talking about this baptized Jesus the voice having came down heaven and said beholders this is my son . So you saying the when Jesus' come out of the water . He throw his voice into heaven. That Christ is not three in one. That scripture in Matthew proves that.
These guys are so conflated in their proselytizing, always trying to corner someone, when they have absolutely no clue about the Doctrine of Christ. I believe these guys are the ones teaching another gospel, teaching that you don't need tp be baptized to be saved in the Kingdom of God.
This has always been a stumbling block for the LDS faith, they reject the Trinity and believe in a more simplistic manner of "many Gods" because they always go back to when Jesus was baptized, how a voice spoke from heaven and the Holy Spirit descended "like a dove" or however it is phrased. They take this completely out of context, not understanding contextual reading of the Scriptures.
For most LDS folk, they always fall back to their "testimony" and go back to everything they were taught about their "feelings" and I have seen many LDS members who never felt that "feeling" they are told they are supposed to get, but to keep praying more until they do get that feeling. This is very deceptive and sad to see.
I would likely ask, Why do we need to pray about something if it is true or not, when God has already told us what is true and what is not? I would ask them what tests they use to determine if a prophet is false or not? How do they test the spirits, etc. Most or nearly all of them will be unable to give you a Biblical answer, and thus, I like to point to Deut 13 and 18.
Ultimately, all we can do is provide information, show them God's word, for His word can never return void, and pray for them, that the Lord will be merciful and open their eyes to the truth. It is a very hard thing for many LDS members, especially those in leadership roles, to leave the LDS faith, because it can cause their marriage to end, lose friends, and possibly even their job.
2 Corinthians 11:4 “For if he that comes preaches another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if you receive another spirit, which you have not received, or another gospel, which you have not accepted, you might well bear with him.”
What this means is Paul is warning us about following a false doctrine, a false Christ, and that he believed some would be deceived because they do not test those teachings against what has already been given to them by Jesus and the apostles.
I might even go so far as to mention to them, that as a born against Christian, we have the surety of our salvation that they would call the "2nd anointing", because Jesus tells us we are his, when we trust in his finished works at the cross, for it is by Grace through faith alone that we are saved, and not by any works.
Point out that we are not born of God, but made sons and daughters by "adoption" and point out those passages to them. At the end of the day, providing questions that they will hopefully think about, such as asking them if they 100% know where they would go if they were to die this very day, or what assurances does the LDS faith give them that they will obtain the Celestial kingdom and obtain Exaltation? Show them it is by their own works, doing ordinances and so on, they must do according to their faith, which is counter to what Jesus told us.
These people claim that LDS members are not Christians, but I disagree with them. They argue that we believe in a different Christ as taught in the Bible. It is clear, however, that they believe in salvation by grace alone, while LDS believe in salvation by a combination of grace and works. Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments, or be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect, or repentance that look like tons of works, and so on. Maybe they did not believe in Jesus Christ after all. And they judged the LDS will go to hell because of their understanding and interpretation of the Bible.
Guys just preach acts 2:38 repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sin and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost!!! Glory to God it is for you and your children and all nations everyone has to obey this scripture!!!!!
Can you imagine if someone walked up to you and started using the quotes and faults of Calvin or Luther to prove your faith is based on a faulty human?
They are Calvinista and Lutherans?
The thing is Christians don’t regard Calvin or Luther as prophets of God. We don’t care if they’re right or wrong-our faith rests upon Christ and His word
The Bible teaches many things! Baptism necessary: (Mark 16:16, John 3:3-5, 1 Corinthians 15:29), Apostles/Prophets in his church: (1 Corinthians 12:28, Ephesians 2:19-20, 4:5, 4:11-14, Amos 3:7), the Apostasy: (Amos 8:11-12, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Isaiah 24:5), the restoration: (Acts 3:20-21, Ephesians 1:10), the book of Mormon: (Ezekiel 37:16-20, Isaiah 29:11-14), need for temples: (1 Corinthians 15:29, Matthew 16:19), spirit world: (John 5:25 & 28-28). 3 kingdoms/heavens: (2 Corinthians 12:2, 1 Corinthians 15:40-42) We are God's children and can become as he is (Romans 8:16-17), we are saved by grace through faith, and faith is an action word and includes works, not just belief: (Matthew 7:21, James 2:14-26, Mark 16:16)
I see many chapters and verses listed which by the way were added by the Catholic Church for better content reading and reference.
@@inhocsignovinces1081 If the Bible is the inerrant word of God, then whatever was added must be true.
Of course there are prophets today! The Bible says your young men will have visions and your old men will have dreams. These are prophetic. God picks people randomly, not in a line like Mormons choose them.
The LDS Church, throughout its early history, has seven different accounts of Joseph Smith’s vision.
It’s the savior who taught that not JS
God is a person (and "one being") not 3 people in one (as was "constructed" 400+ years in the council of nicea) Jesus himself taught us who God is! He said (before his ascension): I now go to "My God and your God" to my father and your father! (Jesus didnt ascend to himself). Jesus was talking about "God" as His Father! (The apostle stephen also saw both "Jesus and God the Father" together but separate (which hows the nature of God)! Jesus is also a god (of his own) + is our Savoir!
Acts 2:'7 old men will dream dreams young men will see visions tou say rhe buble is a closed book Gid says did fferent
That does not say anything about adding to the Bible.
here is the "ironic" thing.
apologetics studio are calvinists.
calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things,
and made all things exactly the way they are.
... thus god also created evil.
therefore since calvinists believe god created evil.
they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin.
calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god.
(of course ... they smugly think they are among the "chosen" to be saved
without a shred of evidence)
and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation.
since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ.
thus calvinists are not christians.
in fact ... calvinists are exactly like muslims in their thought process.
mormons do not believe god created evil.
mormons believe god gave every human free will.
mormons believe everyone can be saved,
because god sent jesus to take the sins of every human upon himself.
and therefor all humans who accepts christ's sacrifice can be saved.
mormons are more christian than calvinists.
Mormons believe Jesus was a created being and that they can become Gods. That’s not Christian at all.
@@Wachary1
the bible refutes you.
jesus is the "son of god" therefor he was created by god the father.
the scriptures declare we are children of god.
created in his image.
the scriptures declare we will inherit all christ has.
if christ is a "god" then so will we be god's.
it is simple biblical doctrine.
@@grayman7208 John 1
Collossians 1:16
Show Jesus created all things include us, and Satan. He eternally existed as God. Nowhere in the Bible does it say otherwise.
Can I ask you why there are so many contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the D&C? (I can provided those contradictions with references)
Why Joseph smith married other men’s wives, and teenage girls and lied about it publicly and to his wife?
Why in Alma it says that Jesus is the very eternal father? Why the Book of Mormon for the most part sounds like the Bible, but Joseph’s later revelations go against both the Bible and the Book of Mormon.
And why in the Book of Mormon is included translation errors word for word from the Bible in 3 Nephi that would have been in the Bible Joseph used proving he used the Bible to plagiarize? And why the Egyptian scroll he used to write the pearl of great price had nothing to do with what he wrote?
And why Joseph said he did greater a greater work than Jesus and gave false prophecies.
Why 9 versions of the first vision?
Why all the witnesses who never even saw the physical gold plates all later left the church, but the apostles of Christ were willing to die for their faith?
Why does Isaiah say God is the first and the last and besides him there is no God? He says he doesn’t even know of any other Gods and you believe you can become one?
Why does the Book of Mormon premise mirror a book called View of the Hebrews so closely. A book that was written by Ethan Smith who was Oliver Cowdry’s pastor?
Why all the anachronisms in the Book of Mormon?
Why the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy?
It couldn’t be more apparent this religion is false and he was a false prophet. There exists proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@grayman7208 John 1
Collossians 1:16
Say Jesus created all things and eternally existed. This means he created Satan and us and is not our brother.
Can I ask a few things?
Why does the Book of Mormon directly contradict the D&C so many times? (I can provide examples and references)
Why the Egyptian scroll Joseph used to write the Pearl of great price has nothing to do with what he wrote? And the Egyptian alphabet he made up is completely wrong?
Why he married other men’s wives, and teenage girls and lied about it publicly and to his wife?
Why all the witnesses to the Book of Mormon later left the faith, but only saw the plates with their minds eye? While the apostles of Christ all died for their faith?
Why 3 Nephi contains mistranslations that existed in the Bible Joseph would have used, proving he used it to plagiarize?
Why 9 versions of the first vision?
Why Joseph claimed to have done greater works than Jesus and had false prophecies?
Why does the Book of Mormon say in Alma that Jesus is the very eternal father? When Mormons don’t even believe that?
Why Isaiah says God is the first and last and besides him there is no God, and that he doesn’t even know if any other Gods?
Why you tell me the Bible refutes me when you don’t even trust what the Bible says?
Why so many anachronisms in the Book of Mormon?
Why a massive battle took place near the hill camorah and not a single piece of archeological evidence to show for it?
Why Joseph Smith said he saw the angel Nephi and changed it to Moroni later?
Why Joseph was telling his family n book of Mormon stories years before he ever received the plates?
Why the Book of Mormon condemns polygamy?
Why temple ceremonies are the same as Masonic rituals as well as many of the signs and token and symbols used?
Why the Book of Mormon closely resembles a book called View of the Hebrews written my a man named Ethan Smith who was the Paster at the church Oliver Cowdry attended?
Let me know
Those who believe receive the Kingdom of God. We will not become gods
So, for 10 % of my income and 10 % of my net worth, I can become a
Mormon god and get my own planet. I also get to wear magic underwear and
vote for Mitt Romney?
You ALSO get to experience hell!
Also no more coffee, you can’t do anything on Sundays, you have to get “called” to whatever they want you to do for basically free community service, they make you meet with the bishop at the end of the year on a 1 on 1 meeting to prove you’ve been paying tithing, you have to go to their temples and do community service and baptize dead people, they basically have complete control of your life.
All you have to do is turn away from the Word of God and all that could be yours!
Elohim
El and Eloha are ways or saying God.
Elohim is a plural word of a singular component. It is a mix of single and plural in a method not done in proper grammar as a standard.
If it was multiple Gods it would be Els. Obviously you need to read all this in the proper language and understand the grammar rules to fully understand.
It is Elohim because (as mentioned elsewhere in the Torah) God is one. But as demonstrated when the Holy Spirit descended like a dove, Jesus in the river, and the Father in heaven God was in three locations and beings at once while being one God.
Remember when Jesus said “I AM” and they picked up stones to kill him for claiming to be God? The way it was said to Abraham is grammatically not normal because God is saying he is in all tenses -past, present, future- at all times. The grammar is the same thing here.
Bring up Elohim to an educated Jew who understands the language and they just say it’s a mystery we can’t understand, push for more and they get mad and end conversation because it points to the trinity. But in no way shape or form does it point to multiple Gods, and is not a name like Bob or Fred.
Mormons/ LDS/ about to change the accepted name again (I was LDS IN 1970s & 1980s) They accept what J Smith said as an interpretation that it is God the father’s name. Go figure- he got all kinds of interpretations and translations wrong many times. Aka salamander, book of Abraham…
If it helps and I sort of agree with the title of this video is you mix the words to become,
"I struggle with the truth of Mormons"
Not 3 persons trinity isnt in the bible, 3 functions of the Godhead and all 3 are 1
Answer you about the Bible the Bible is made up of 6,000 squirrels of the Dead Sea. The book have left out they left out the book of ruth.So that's all is not in it. So that' alot of books left out. That were supposed to be in Bible .The Bible is not a finished book and if you say about Revelations book about all. Now that Matthew is a book John is a book and so on .
The gospel restored? It was never lost or hidden. That is cult like speech.
I agree that the LDS church is man made but I also think that Christianity is just the same.
It's just older and now I've left can see that it's just the same as all the rest.
I have found no "good" evidence for christianity, Hinduism or Islamic religions.
Please may I ask why you believe in your religion?
Thanks Gray
Such a great question. Like Why would a god create us out of nothing to come down and be "saved" without doing anything, and putting us through pain? That doesn't make sense to me.
But your first question is key. Why does this "Mormon" hater believe something? How is anyone supposed to know if God is real. If an atonement and a savior are required and why?
If there is a God why did he create the earth?
Gray, Also a question about evidence, like why would a god not want factual evidence, is their reasoning behind that? Like why isn't an angel down here every day telling us what up?
@@clearstonewindows I fully agree.
When you say "Like Why would a god create us out of nothing to come down and be "saved" without doing anything, and putting us through pain? That doesn't make sense to me."
At the start before the rest of the question is where is the 'good' evidence for the deity that supposedly created everything.
Best to you -Gray
@@grayintheuk8021 I think the question about why God would create earth (or you anything) would lead to an answer of "What (if any) "good" evidence there would be of a God?
Why would someone take the time to create something like us that has free will? Why do Parents have Children? Also, if you are a parent or maybe you're dating, do you want someone with free will to love you because they want to, or because you make them?
If I yell and scream at my 3-year-old to pick up their toys, did they have a choice in the matter?
Gray, do you think you have choices and free will? Do you think you exist?
@@clearstonewindows As far as I can tell I am not a brain in a vat. Even if I was this is what I have to deal with. I don't think we have libertarianism which is an incompatibilist position that argues that free will is logically incompatible with a deterministic universe.
Do you walk out of the office or are you dragged out of the office?
So I do not believe in anything supernatural. Including gods, fairies, devils and troll under bridges waiting for goats.
Do you think there is a god then?
@@grayintheuk8021 yes I do believe there is a God. In part because I have free will. I too do not think I am in the matrix 😉. But there is more than just free will. It's having morality. Why is wrong wrong and we feel that?
Left the CHURCH, refused to repent, from personal sins, lack of knowledge, rebellious, deceitful, these people are modern Babylonians.
Quit making stuff up
@@Wachary1 Your comment perfectly reveal, your extreme lack of knowledge, of the fullness and the truthfulness of, THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS.
@@VAATAUSILI4139 you need to repent of bearing false witness
@@Wachary1 Your extreme lack of knowledge, is your problem.
@@VAATAUSILI4139 You continuously make things up about people. That’s your problem.
Did he seriously say Protestantism was “Orthodox Christianity” 😂
Oh, I feel sorry for this fellow LDS. You cannot win over these professed Christians, bro. They know the Bible like the back of their hands. Let us read and study the Bible. Their belief in Christ is distorted., taught by the precepts of men mingled with scripture but that do not mean they are true.
Let the guy speak instead of just throwing question after question. Learn how to preach before you go out and film it.
Pretty sure you’d have more of a positive effect if you focused on the things you have in common.
What would be the point of that?
@@Formerlyknownas7435 Form a relationship of trust, so that you truly care about them as a son or daughter of God, they know that you care about them, help foster an environment where they’re willing to listen to you and the Scriptures are sharing with them. I don’t know just an idea
@@Sayheybrother8 what if there isn't time? Its important to share the Gospel. John the baptizer and Jesus said repent! For the kingdom of God is at hand! Too many churches want to make friends and entertain.
These guys are very respectful. There are many who are very confrontational and mock the lds. They just want to argue. But these guys here are presenting truth and do it respectfully. Sorry but I don't see a problem with it
Okay, I’ll point out the things I have in common with LDS theology. I believe in the five offices being for today Eph 4:11, I believe in a spiritual witness and God speaks, I believe in all the gifts of the Holy Spirit. But I don’t believe any LDS doctrine is inspired and I think it comes from Satan. The LDS Godhead is not biblical nor is it’s gospel. Temple work is a spirit in the face of the cross and the veil being rent into Matt 27:51. But all the things I agree with the LDS church in do not compare to the PRIMARY issues I disagree with them on.
@@prayerwarrior7778 Do you think having to be baptized for salvation is not an inspired LDS doctrine? Why, then, are there 13+ verses in the New Testament that says that it is? Yet, the mainstream Christian churches cannot come to an agreement as to whether or not it is, and none of them teach it as they cannot reconcile what happens to the believer that for whatever reason dies without baptism. If you can't understand basic doctrine, none of the other eternal stuff these guys focus on matters.
Wow the Mormons are 🤣😂😅😝 why the lies.