3 Popular Mousepads I Dislike (and 3 hidden gems)
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Hi! Over the past few years I have tried a lot of mousepads, from the most popular to the extremely obscure. This video gives me the chance to talk about why I think my preferences don't always line up with what's popular, as well as shining a light on some lesser known mousepads that I really enjoyed using.
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - LGG Venus
2:20 - Locus.gg
3:56 - Cerapad
5:30 - Spyre Loque
7:20 - Artisan Hien
8:14 - Artisan Hayate Kou
10:13 - Outro
Peripherals/Settings
Mouse: HTX 4k
Mousepad: Artisan Zero Soft/Spyre Rosana
Keyboard: Wooting 60HE Modded
Headset: AKG 702
Microphone: AT2020
Sensitivity: About 30cm but I change often
Resolution: 1920x1080 in everything but cs, 1280x960 for cs 
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The friction sheet I refer to a few times throughout the vid can be found here if your interested, docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ix0RN4WDgRIn9uSUMy2smG_vWR3FTnZHgNpumChfHM0/edit?usp=sharing
I'll be making a video about it soon but in the meantime feel free to ask any questions about it here if they haven't already been answered on the sheet itself on the data tab
Also this video took me so long to make that some stuff about the spyre loque has changed since I recorded the voiceover, the main two things are that there is no longer an option for non stitched edges for it and that international shipping is much more expensive than before, so it might be better to wait for it to stock at resellers depending on where you live. I still think its a really good option for aussies and EU people as well if maxgaming end up stocking it.
Looks like the loque and the 3 new spyre pads are preorderable on Maxgaming for 34,99€ 👍
I just wanted to comment on the puretrak talent, on the spreadsheet it looks decently controlled, but from my experience it is one of the faster pads I've used. It felt a good deal faster than the Venus for example. I was able to feel this on multiple mice skates as well. Thanks for this information and your videos.
@@danlesak00 yeah it turns out that there was an issue with my copy haha, the weave was flipped so that the vertical axis was horizontal. ive never had a qc issue like that on a pad before, it was rly strange. Thats why i removed the pad from the main tab of the sheet, but i kept the result just in case i need it later
@@ViscoseOCE That makes complete sense, i had a base qc issue on mine, but they sent me another one out. I recently ordered the p51 and there is qc issues with it as well, random stains never happened before on other pads. Ik they changed ownership recently but qc issues are the worst.
@@danlesak00 yeah mine was rubbish haha, it came covered in dirt and dust as well as having the flipped xy issues. Thanks for the heads up about the p51, appreciate it
eyyy another amazing video. Thank you so much again for the insight Viscose. Also great quality video. Keep it up!
I also fell into the trap of buying way too many mousepads, so I appreciate Viscose making videos like these to discourage other people from making the same mistake. 😂
I always ended up always going back to the SkyPad, regardless of how great other pads felt. This is probably just due to the preference factor Viscose mentions at the end.
Great video as always, Viscose! 😊
but normal player do need certain amount of pads to start understand where he is at. but all in all, pads should be the last item one should worry about. mouse definitely comes first, assume monitor/gpu all to spec.
awesome video as always.
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Thank you babe, didn't wanna miss this
Great video Viscose! Very helpful information on a wide range of options :)
As someone who went thru a similar buying spree to you last year, it's really interesting to see that we ended up sharing similar opinions. The hien is a great starting point but is really disappointing to go back to after trying the rest of artisan's lineup.
When buying from artisan, the shipping price doesn’t change when getting one or two pads where I live, and the otsu has been on my list to try for a while. I’ve got a “hien clone” and as such I’ve wanted to try out something new, the kou will most definitely be the one for me to try out because my vertical aiming has always been rather limited, while I also love having a controlled surface. You put it on my radar
Appreciate how much effort was put in this video. Interested in the locus. Great video Viscose :)
Fantastic insight into the hayate kou, got me very intrigued now...
Great video! Just found your channel and love the content so far! Keep going! :D
I honestly played this video in the background while I aim trained because your voice is so soothing lol
I used to import Artisan pads when they were sold out everywhere and selling them locally so I tried them one by one. At the end I kept one otsu for myself but one day a guy wrote me a message if I have an otsu on stock and I said I only have mine. He wanted to buy it and I sold it to him. That was the worst mistake of my life. Since then, I stopped buying them because the businesses stocked up locally. Since then I kept trying countless other mousepads to find something better, recently the Xraypads thor. Every time I get excited to get something new and at the end I always think about the otsu. I will buy an otsu in a couple weeks. This video made me realize my dream of finding something better is just a dream at the end. Otsu is number 1 forever.
That was a very good message at the end of the Vid!
Great! I definitely want to try the Spyre Loque!!
The worst thing about the Venus, is the fact that the pad slows down tremendously when cleaning it, even after it has fully dried up. The Venus pro also has tracking issues with some nice, although that might be a specific batch of Venus pros.
I used to use random deskpads from keyboard groupbuys but I switched to an Artisan Hayate Otsu FX XSoft. I love the balance of how fast the pad is and the control I can get with the slower skates on my EC2-CW.
you know everything is good when your mousepad covers your whole floor, that is literally a aimers dream, a floor with unlimited mousepad space. but all jokes aside, its a nice mousepad insight vid vis !!
i tested quite a few mouspads myself and i really dig the venus for CSGO. it doesn't feel like a mudpad but i feel like i can stop on a dime. the rough surface really didn't bother me as much, mostly because i play with a sleeve.
btw sick aim with the scout 😘
another great vid viscose
Great video, please keep making more mouse/mousepad videos!
thank u!! working on it o7
Nice the Kou is getting some well deserved love. It's been super fun to learn how to use it after maining the otsu and raiden. Been breaking in the soft and mid for a couple weeks but still think I might prefer the xsoft. Definitely think the otsu and Raiden are more likely to assist in high scores for aim trainers over the Kou, but the Kou feels so good in game. Especially for games with high vertical recoil like pubg and insurgency, and even something like battlebit if you play with ~50cm.
very well put together
I have to be honest, when I saw gameplay 2min in with flicks and tracking I have to admit that you are sick aimer and your opinion of mouse pads is highly taken into consideration by me from now on😅
love the vids i aspire become like you one day
insane aim, love the artisan hien but im thinking about getting a new pad :O
I’m using a skypad for mainly Valorant. I know it’s not necessarily ideal but it’s a fun challenge. I’m hoping if I eventually go back to cloth, my mouse control will be improved. Great vid:)
Always a banger.
viscose with the thumbnails sheesh
For a boomer like me, who started with mouses for 3$ and very cheap office mouse-pads ( the ones that sometimes company give as a present in the past :) ) I have to say that mouse sensors and mouse-pads really improved a lot in the last 20 years. In the recent years with my increased desire to improve my aiming, I went through some mouses and pads and I have to say - I will never go back to a wired mouse and It will be very difficult to abandon my HIEN :) especially as I play only Apex Legends. I used sleeve when I wanted to reach and stay in High Diamond, Masters but in recent time I just play pubs for fun and I don't feel the need of the sleeve as I don't care if my aim is flawless for my skill level. Also a really big PLUS for the HIEN is that when it gets dirty overtime you just use some detergent and warm water and its brand new again with the same feeling and zero wearing. This is the most durable pad I ever had.
try the otsu. same speed, better experience imo
Mousepad? I used a Yu Gi Yoh Duel Masters card mat for 5 years until my brother begged me to get an actual mousepad
I got similar feelings about the Venus, the very high static friction combined with the moderate dynamic friction is a weird combination and makes direction changes while tracking difficult. Its a shame because it was my first and only mousepad that i spent more than 20€ on and the quality of the Venus is great. I'm currently on a 3€ pad that i prefer over the Venus. It was a special offer at my local grocery store and I just bought it because it was so cheap but it actually has exactly the glide properties I was looking for: a smooth polyester surface with low static and dynamic friction and a firm 3mm rubber base. The size is great too 900x400mm. Just no stitched edges.
New viscose videooo!!!
Finallyy new video :D
qck clears them all !! nah but on a real note i bought a zero recently i cant wait to get it
New fav RUclipsr ❤
Damn I see your aim and its insane! Do you use any mouse cursor rotation? and what is your dpi and sens in games like valorant?
This is a real Viscose video!
W review,thanks
This channel is a hidden gem
great vid viscose ^_^ i was wondering if youve had the chance to try the npc and your opinion on it.
i havent yet, but im def interested in it :D
Fantastic video 🔥 I had a similar experience with the Hien. Loved the pad at the beginning and now find it hard to go back as it’s so abrasive. Would be very interested in trying out the Hayate Kou after watching this 🫡⚡️
great video
thank u!! and yeah it is haha, i sold it cause it was too rough for me to use. rly nice pad other than that though
the problem with the venus is the direction of the weave. if you have the venus normally placed on your desk(logo in the bottom right) the weave pattern is vertical rather than horizontal. most pads have a horizontal weave pattern. you're basically fighting the weave of the pad while using it. try putting logo in the top right and the pad should be useable now. it's the same weave as a bunch of top mousepads. they just placed it in the wrong direction. having the weave horizontal is also better for your sensor as it allows it to track more accurately. a bunch of pads that cause spinouts on mice have a vertical weave pattern.
Could we possibly see a setup tour and a current endgame gear video? I would love to see your current favourite pad-mouse, setup.
maybe! i dont know how many ppl would be interested in a setup tour, its very stuffed LOL
for my peripherals atm im using:
Endgamegear OP1we w weight reduction mod and jade dot skates
artisan zero soft
asus 280hz 24inch monitor
very modded wooting 60he
damn I love my cerapad. I’m used to cleaning it before I boot my pc up everyday, wearing a sleeve before I game, and I love its consistency. I feel like I didn’t have to change my grip at all after I started getting used to arm sleeves.
Although there is slow down after a couple hours of gaming. I think my arm oils/sweat/moisture gets onto the pad after a long time even through sleeves, just means I have to spray the pad with more window cleaner.
It was interesting to see the original cerapad too! More people use the kin which seems to have no sleeve requirements
the grip thing is interesting to me, does any of your skin touch the pad when u play? Glad your liking it though! im very jealous of ppl who are comfy on hard pads haha
@@ViscoseOCE my wrist and lower parts of my palm all touch the pad, it’s impossible to use any sleeve besides ones with thumbholes.
For me, it’s hard pad or nothing. I don’t want to deal with buying new cloth pads once I notice slowdown. Makes sense to just buy new skaters every once in awhile then new pad and skates. Plus way easier to clean hard pads :p
Edit: mouse is a Lamzu, and I have a claw/palm grip. Used to use gpx and had to change grip for lamzu
ik this doesnt belong to this video but do you think the htx is viable for claw grip? i had used the superlight x and hts+4k in the past and im very curious about the htx
Yes sir new Viscose video
You know what since its worth it to order 2 artisans at the same time ill maybe try the kou. I've been maining the hien for a year now and i wanna try the raided but kou sounds interesting too
hi, I'm new to this world, i've played fps games since 2018 but i never thought about buying a good mousepad, i live in europe and i play various games such as sgo overwatch and quake, i've been using an aliexpress mousepad for the last 4 years which i know it sounds wrong but isn't that bad but my biggest complain is that the pad feels different everytime i play i think because of humidity, it gets sticky in some areas and in others glides as if i just washed it, any tip for a mousepad i could buy around 30-35€ (shipment to europe included)? i have never tried a good mousepad so i dont know which type would suite me the best but i think a hybrid solution between speed and control would be something i could appreciate, so i can hold angles in cs without my aim being jittery and still have a smooth tracking while playing the lg on quake. thanks in advance and btw insane aim, a pleasure to watch.
Great video and so much useful information if u wanna buy a popular mousepad . I own the hien soft and I can say that the surface is rough and that is only flaw it has in my opinion. But with an arm sleeve you’re good to go .
yeah it felt much nicer with a sleeve to me, i just dont like sleeves haha. I think overall the hien is still a very solid pad
Hey just wondering if you could make a aimlabs playlist to get aim like yours ( i just dont have kovaaks XD ) EDIT: I now see the aim labs playlist, which ones did you use? Like the apex ones etc.
visgoat it would be cool to see you review the upcoming Infinity pads from InfinityMice.
ive def had my eye on them, shipping from the US to AU is a bit rough tho :(
What are your thoughts on the saturn pro? My FPS variation is everywhere. Mostly OW and COD. Apex and maybe some valorant.
PLEASEEE post a review of the cera pad kin i’ve been dying to hear your thoughts on it since you liked the cera but it was sticky and the cera isn’t sticky plus it’s a control based glass pad
hi!! i actually have a kin but havent had the time to put enough time into using it to make a vid about + i dont rly have a compelling concept/hook for a vid about the kin. It's def on my list of vids to make tho
You should do a mouse spread sheet with hand size and grip
Can you test and add the qck classic to your spreadsheet, i just got it and it seems pretty fast but i was looking for something with a lot more control. Im keen on the results. Also is there a difference between the heavy and the classic versions.
yeah there would be a difference between the classic and heavy, and ill consider getting it if i see it on sale :D
underrated
Life changing video, thank you viscose!
Never considered the Hayate Kou before, but sounds like it'll definitely be on my radar now, thanks! Out of curiousity, how smooth is the surface of the pad?
hard to say, vertically its really smooth but its got some texture when moving horizontally
@@ViscoseOCE gotcha, thanks!
i like your video style its so chilling and informative, whats your top 5 pad now? i like otsu mid and curious about your opinion
thank u
@@ViscoseOCEartisan zero classic or fx
Would love for you to try our pads so we can update this video😁
Hi, do you think you'll try artisan type 99 and rokkaku when they are in stock/release?
Hey is there a way I can find out what mousepad is the best for me without getting them all? I mainly play cs however I do play finals a lot and in general would like a mousepad not just for cs but also tracking. I have the qck and vaxee pa mousepad and I honestly can’t even pick a favorite out of them. Seems like whenever I play bad I just switch them. I really don't know what kind of mousepad I prefer, I'm on the gpro but am about to try out the op1we. What are your favorite pads for tac shooters and tracking games? (I change sens between 35-43 cm/360)
How did you get your locus arent you also in Australia? The shipping fee for me is 55 AUD lmao. Also for 19.5x9.5 relaxed fingertip do you recommend HTX or Viper V2 Pro not considering price?
What are your thoughts on the Fnatic Jet, I've been thinking about trying it
Do you know how much faster or slower the standard Saturn is to the Pro and where it would be on your list?
how does the aqua controll zero feel? , how rough is it compared to the venus for example?
Oh no... this is gonna make me want to get another mousepad isn't it
Your sheet shows that the venus is even slower than the artisan zero for both kinds of friction, shouldn't it be faster than zero and slower than otsu?
why do you use griptape? and does it actually make a big difference? im not sure if i should put it on my htx
I dont know why im so inconsistent on the Hayate Otsu. I do better on faster and slower pads, but sometimes the friction of the slower ones hinders me, and the lack of control on faster ones too. So I thought the Hayate Otsu would be perfect. But no, the friction on it feels weird, its like oily slightly sticky.
Can you make a vid of all you bfv settings?
Random question but what did you end up doing to find a sens that was good for you?
Have you tried the ES2? It’s sort of replacing my Saturn pro but idk yet. I want slightly faster than the LLG for tracking but still control for tac fps
i havent but im def interested, ill keep an eye on it and get it if theres a good sale
YAY
hey Viscose, would you give the cerapad KIN a go? apparently they’ve fixed heaps of the problems in the KIN version. the more you break it in, the better it gets apparently! love from australia haha💯💪🏾
love to see a fellow aussie :> ive tried the kin actually but havent had the time to give it enough time to make a full review, i feel its a pad i want to spend a lot of time with to get an accurate opinion. its def on my list of stuff to review tho!
@@ViscoseOCE no worries! i’ve had it for about 3 months, a little after making this comment. out of the box, you need to give it i think 20 or so hours? of actual use for it to wear in and get rid of any muddy feeling from the ceramic, afterwards it becomes a very smooth glide with great stopping power! i think you will love this pad considering your aim style. also it’s 12:40 mannnnn go to bed!🤣
@@dubbog7870 LOL im on a very funky schedule atm for the work i do, i kinda forgot it was this late 😭the one i got is actually a friends old one! i think it's already gotten past the break in period but i was still struggling to get used to it when i tried, but when i get back into fps again ill do a few streams on it and hopefully make a vid abt it ^^ glad ur liking yours so much :D
@@ViscoseOCE HAHA same, i work night shifts so my schedule is fucked aswell. i mean krs 2:40am rn so😂😂. ohhh you’re on a break from fps as well i see. there’s just not many interesting fun games to play right now! i have The Finals beta a go though and i love the game. aiming in it is super fun too. maybe give that a shot ☺️
based viscose banger
thank you viscose i loved this video i will name my 3 children after it
How do u feel about the skypad? Do u think the raiden is better
I know this is an old video but maybe you read this, I am curious, what are your thoughts on the Fnatic Jet mousepad?
Hello Viscose, what do you think about having a different Y and X sensitivity, is it good if I'm comfortable with it or does it introduce another element to my aim that may mess up its consistency?
i think its fine? i used it for a bit and i think it makes a lot of sense bc of the variances in range of motion i talked abt in the vid but i noticed i struggled with diagonal movements a lot more. that def could have been bc i wasnt adjusted to it tho, if u think it feels comfy then go for it ^^
mousepads are weird for me despite switching mouse keyboard hell even headphones frequently i haven't really ventured from my Artisan Hien although i do want to try out the skypad 3.0 since its made of glass and not cloth
i've never noticed the hien having a rough texture but its also my first high quality mousepad so maybe if i switch one day and go back to the hien i'll notice it
@@snoweiii yeah i had the same haha, didnt bother me til i felt what smoother pads were like. might want to stay away from mousepads if uve already got those other money sinks though :P
@@ViscoseOCE i went down the rabbit hole and bought the skypad andd it feels great
u tried the m2k? Just curious what were ur thoughts? Ive tried the m1k and found the starlight 12s to be better for ftip grip.
i have yeah! it felt rly weird for me cause i dont normally ftip, i wasnt too keen on the shape
HELLO Viscose! How do you feel about the Saturn Pro mousepad?
its alright! a good zero alternative if you want something a bit slower, but i prefer the zero personally
@@ViscoseOCE thank you!!
what mousepads do you recommend for cs/valorant?
ur the goat
When you play, do your fingers touch the mousepad at all? I know some people do so to increase stopping power
nvm i found out
okay this is 10 months ago.. but ur speaking about the venus... the the venus pro... which is COMPLETELY different... got mine for a year now and still love it... im only having to replace it cause my cat killed it a few days ago after jumping away scared of my dog cause she tried to steal his cookie XD
How do you like the aqua control zero?
Yo! just wondering did you remove your video on mouse accel? I wanted to see your opinions on it now that I've brought custom curve and for some reason I just can't find it anymore.
if this is a mandela effect I'm actually 360'ing off my roof.
LOL no its not the mandela effect, i just took it down bc i wasnt happy with it and dont 100% agree with everything in the vid anymore so im remaking it! i should be posting it sometime next week ^^
@@ViscoseOCE W
old now but i wonder if i put my kou sideways would it just be the opposite?
when can i catch you live streaming on kick or twitch viscose
hi!
do u think that the otsu is an upgrade over the spyre loque?
or should i buy a zero instead
Great review, Spyre seems to be a great brand and thanks to maxgaming they released 3 other mousepads and another size for the loque in EU (i know i will not buy them because i want to stop my mousepads addiction... (my keyboards addiciton is gone, but mices... i dont want to talk about it xD). I'm interested to know if they will be a brands that i can recommend eyes closen to my friends (and with mousepads that will not cost an arm), i hope you will review all of them side by side.
"Thanks" to Optimum Tech and his review of the Hayate Otsu i fell into the trap of buying to many mousepads.
I dont need to explain why it's easy to fell into that trap after that ? Well i will still do it : You know at the MOMENT of you make the mistake to search about Artisan mousepads on YT it's over because you will find in the first result the channel of the Artisan mousepads Sect leader (aka Boardzy) and after that it's over you will discover more and more brands / mousepads / mices and will always want to try more, it's like a curse :D.
Fortunately for me i think i can cure myself, after testing some mousepads in the last two years (a few hybrids and a cordura), i found that i prefer to buy mousepads with the hardest base as possible (and fast af) so today after 13 days of waiting and so many refresh per day of maxgaming twitter :
IT FINNALLY APPEARED, my end game mousepad the Pulsar Superglide Polarity*. I main an Esports Tiger Blaze atm, really an amazing cordura Pad that also stick to desk like crazy but i want to try a smooth surface, i also only use ghostglides edgerunner or tiger ice mice skates because they are so smooth, corepad is a bit meh in comparison and i never tried others mice skates brands.
*Polarity is the name of the design, the pad is a cooperation between Conrady (an amazing designer for padsmith), nachocustomz and fresh reviews (3 GOATS ).
Pulsar X2 medium Boardzy Ed with ghostglide edgeruner skates and SoSpacer V3 Grips (black and white) on the Superglide Polarity will be my next mice / mousepad combo... (and that will look so sick) i cant wait to try it.
Interesting take on the LGG Venus. I have most of the pads mentioned in this vid and the Otsu XS and the Venus Pro are by far my favourites. Mained the Otsu for ages but I might even prefer the Venus Pro, for most of the reasons you didnt like. The Otsu Venus comparison falls short. The Venus Pro feels like an inbetween the Hien and Otsu, yet significantly slower than both. My only dislikes of the Otsu are how it sometimes feels a bit too much like plastic, how it very quickly starts looking nasty (ptfe wear + the hair thing) and how I sometimes wished it had a tad bit more control. The Venus Pro addresses all those issues for me. It's the embodiment of a balanced pad. It's soft, yet sits between what would be XS and S for artisan pads. It feels more like a cloth pad, while having plenty of speed, while offering more control than most artisan offerings. The texture also adds a bit of control while not nearly being as abrasive as the Hien. It doesnt look nasty as quickly and I prefer the colorways. A true jack of all trades.
We'll see how I end up liking it if i used it for as long as I used the Otsu but for me it's starting to look like the best of all worlds.
that is interesting, i found it to just feel really muddy rather than providing more control while maintaining decent speed. I've been curious about the venus pro for a while tbh, i think I would like the surface more on a softer base but its way too expensive for me to justify. I'm glad your liking it though, nice to know I was right that expectations might have played a role in me disliking it since i was expecting a close to 1:1 clone of the otsu.
@@ViscoseOCE Venus Pro surprisingly felt weirdly muddy on my Dav3 with stock skates but felt great with any of my mice with Tiger Ice or Corepads. Still might not be your cup of tea, especially if its expensive there
Your channel is a hidden gem - thank you! Hope you make more of these informative videos!
Please can you help me decide once and for all between the Artisan Zero and LGG Saturn Pro strictly for CS?
Coming from an old GSR which I definitely don’t mind but now getting old, I’m keen for change. Low sens - 400 DPI, 1 sensitivity.
Thank you!
I have both and prefer the Saturn pro especially W/ it’s larger size. I found the gsr slower than both. Im also a low sens cs player.
what mouse grip do you use
What sensitivity and fov do you use?
Hey, just wantet to ask one quesion. since i easily get confused on mousepads, with would be like the ''best'' for Valorant (mid sens) ty!
hi! a lot of picking a mousepad is personal preference so its a bit tricky for me to give a general recommendation. What mousepads have you tried so far?
@@ViscoseOCE umm one from ikea 😭
sorry off topic, but could you give me 1 aimlabs playlist to get my tracking skills up
i know im a bit late but what r ur opinions on glass pads?
def mixed but overall i like them and appreciate their uniqueness but they have some issues like wearing down skates and overall feeling scratchy that prevents me from maining them