I`m a Dodge-driver. If someone gave me a car for free and I can choose between these two, I also take the F-Type. Then I would sell it and buy two used Hellcat`s and a used Pickup-Truck down in the U.S. for that money 😆 Traveling-costs & shipping included 😉 Jaguar`s are technically refined expensive high-end cars for people with money - Dodge builds cheap cars for working-class-people... like me 😉 Not refined, of course 😆 They are in the price segment of VW or Opel here in Germany, as long as you get them for the us-price. I would say they are ok for that. I have a lot of fun with it
@@makstone Bro I never mentioned anyone going this fast what are u talking about? I simply stated that it has the ability to go over 205 while being family sedan. All im saying is that u can ride with 4 to 5 people and go fast at the same time I never bragged about anything so may I ask whats your point?😑
As a Brit F-type SVR owner, i love my car, and the heritage of Jaguar. I am in the UK jaguar clubs and meets. its my forever dream car and so lucky to own one. But as a petrol head, i love that hellcat too. Sometimes who is faster than who doesn't matter, its the journey. Both journey in a different way. I bet that hellcat is pure fun. Mine is awd and that USA red muscle Cat is rear wheel. Both these cats are incredible. I got my love of muscle car from the likes of dodge, chevrolet, ford, shelby, corvette and le mans racing. So thank you to the crazy engineers over the pond.
jajaja nice try, i moved out my parents house a lil later than usual at 22 but nice try, sure my car isnt insanely nice but a 2019 F Pace SVR will sure as hell beats what ever you got bud@@DesertStateInEU
I have a 17 FType SVR and its such a blast to drive, especially in the twisties. I live in a climate that has snow 5 months out of the year. With snow tires, it'll smoke ANYTHING off the line on ice. Also, the rear end is super light, so it oversteers nicely on dry, wet, and icy roads. Its just a better all-around vehicle that can be driven hard in any weather condition. I've spoken with my money - its all on the jag.
@@issavibez394 I haven't had any issues at all, but I've only had the car for 14 months and I've got about 24K miles. In all fairness, every performance manufacturer has had their reliability issues. If that's a major concern, i recommend people buy a corvette, Mopar, or mustang - something that is cheap & easy to work on and can take a beating. The nearest Jag dealership is 6 hours away, so its definitely a concern for me.
@@issavibez394he best thing to do with any Jag or German Car is to purchase a good warranty, preferably from the dealership. The warranty will usually pay for itself within 1-2 repairs. For the most part I’ve only heard good things about the F-Types powertrain.
So many videos out there make hellcats and demons look slow aha. Trust me. On drag radials and full hook those cars are absolute monsters. A hellcat isn't doing anything on a stock 275 all season lol.
So let’s prep for them so they can be fast lmfao… listen to yourself. The average person on the streets is gonna be exactly how these cars are right now. So it’s a real world comparison.
@@joseg3186 sure, except the only thing holding one car back is tires. And the majority of these cars aren't run like this lol. Maybe in the hood.. the actual track has legit monsters. Even if you're going to run on the street atleast get some 305 nt555r or mickey street radials. Not some 275 all season 😅 some Nissan altima will torch it at the line posting "omg ahah hellcats so slow my moms altima took it on the line" - the joy of a high hp rwd car. Meanwhile where it.matters hellcats with a pulley and tire are running 10.7s lmao
@@Bizzair1990 not sure what world you live in but it takes a lot more than a tire for a hellcat to be fast… power to weight ratio is a thing. The very reason an NA mustang beats them pretty much every time. Let’s not even get started on mod for mod. Hellcats have zero chance…
@Winter Almeida porquê vende. É pesado porque usa um chassis antigo e tem um V8 Supercharger. Tirar peso significa usar um chassis novos e usar materiais mais caros, o que foge do objetivo de manter o preço razoável
@Winter Almeida Camaro é mais barato que o redeye, e mais caro que o Hellcat. Mas tem um chassis muito mais novo e leve, e no geral é um pouco menor que o Challenger
@Winter Almeida você não entendeu mano. Challenger tem 5,01m de comprimento, 1,41m de altura e 1,92m de largura. Camaro tem 4,78m de comprimento, 1,89m de largura e 1,34m de altura. Ou seja, além de usar um chassis mais leve e robusto é um carro menor. Outra vantagem é o motor, apesar de ambos serem 6.2L o Camaro usa um bloco pequeno, mais compacto e mais leve. O Supercharger usado no Camaro também é menor e mais leve. Ao invés de gastar mais dinheiro tentando deixar o Challenger/Charger mais leve é melhor investir um uma plataforma totalmente nova. E fazer uma nova geração, assim como a GM fez. Deixando o Camaro da sexta geração 94kg mais leve que a anterior.
Realistically the Dodge is Miesha Tate while the jag is one of those starved skinny miserable girls that are pumped full of steroids before a photo shoot so they look presentable.
Other than that colour. It’s great for promotional videos and showing the lines of the car, but it would be old after a short while. Seen it play out with a guy on the forums. You can tell he regrets buying this colour. I do like it, just not on my car ;-0
Great race. Love that Jag aesthetically. Sounds good too super quick off the line. Active aero always cool. And that colour! And y'all already know how I feel about Hellcats ✨😍✨ such a legendary whip
@Catholic Firefighter The Jag ($105,000+) got worked by the Hellcat ($69,000+) in the roll though. And with the savings, I am sure the owner of that car could throw some Drag Radials on the Cat and destroy the Jag off the line as well. That Hellcat is on 275 all seasons lol
@Catholic Firefighter I agree with you I would never get any of those cars I mean don’t get me wrong they would be fun to drive for a day but realistically it’s not worth to buy a hellcat
They lose value because the brand has a bad rep in general, much of which no longer deserved with most modern Jags. The F-type in particular is quite reliable. Not sure where you are getting your facts but you are wrong. I know people who own them and if you go into the forums you will see they are pretty good. LR does have trouble spots.
Would be interesting to see how a 2015 F-Type R would do on a roll, because it's about 200 lbs lighter due to being RWD, and realistically, about the same power. No contest on looks though :)
@Corrie Elieff I have a 2015 F-type R. While it has 550 hp stock, it is still putting more horsepower to the wheels than the 575 hp SVR or 2022 R because it is not losing power through both a front and rear differential. Curb weight of my car with carbon ceramic brakes is just under 3,600 pounds. Not sure whether it would take the Hellcat from a roll, but it will beat an SVR or a 2022 575 hp R from a roll all day.
Idk if you saw my comment the other day. So the reason why the F-Type R has the SVR engine specs it is bc we working with bmw now and the new SVR is gonna have the 4.4L TT V8 from the m5 and m8. Our new body style full size and sport have that 4.4l v8 already
Anyone who’s driven a Hellcat on the street knows you’re not hooking up from a dig. Even if it’s a widebody. The Redeye I got to take on a road trip was a widebody with 305s, I couldn’t even give it half throttle from a dig without the car absolutely lighting up the tires on the street. Some wide drag radials will help but you still won’t be able to launch it really hard. That’s part of its charm, it’s almost too much to handle on the street! The Jag would absolutely have an advantage from a dig here with AWD. Both very cool cars!
@@joevarga5982 sure but traction control just applies the break and backs off timing to cut engine power enough so that the wheel losing traction can get grip. Good to get traction, terrible for performance. Like trying to launch your car hard and hitting the brakes at the same time.
@@joevarga5982 absolutely there is, with drag radials (Mickey thompson et streets) and ideally at a drag strip. 717 hp (more specifically 656lb/ft of torque) is very difficult to launch. We’re talking a low 11 second-high 10 second car here, a pushrod V8 that makes so much of its torque down low in the rev range, it’s supposed to be a handful. That’s the point, it’s practically uncontrollable unless you know how to dial it in that’s part of what makes the car so endearing. If you ever get a chance to drive one you’ll get it.
@@TrackPackRT The guy in the video can't manage to launch the car because he's not familiar enough with his car. A performance car shouldn't be uncontrollable. Plenty of cars can spin the rear wheels and they're controllable. Why isn't the Hellcat?
iv had two hellcats and i know that car would eat the jag.it looked like the hellcat driver couldnt get it going..sounded like it was missing..i had a 2016 and 2019 red eye...he needs street drag radials to even up the all wheel drive
@@7s29 No need to get thinking the car channels are conspiring against the Hellcats, they're legit just comparing the cars as they come off the lot. The tires that the Hellcat comes with from the dealership are not going to hold all that power under a full launch from a dig, but they're just fine for a roll race. That's the advantage AWD cars have - without an astronomical level of power, they'll still launch good on all-seasons that you get at a Walmart tire center.
keep in mind this challenger doesn't have upgraded tires,(base model no options) it has skinny 275 junk tires.. competition all has thicker tires. These things hook on a proper radial tire.
The problem wasnt manual or automatic, it was the grip. The Dodge will have to either be moving OR have warmed tyres with a properly prepped race course. That much power needs warm and grippy tyres to translate into speed.
@@robertrichards4930 i know how to race... modern automatic transmissions downshift for you as soon as you hit the gas anyway, wouldnt have made up that distance lol, and plus 30 mph is at 5k rpm for a hellcat, i own a superstock with 3.09 gears trust me i know, so if this was a 40 or 60 the jag wouldve got gapped harder
@77tt33 ......not the Jag, you downshift put revs to about 4-4.5k then roll. I have owned a 2015 type R. You don't know what you're talking about (not with the jag)
@@robertrichards4930 you never want your RPMs that high before a race... you want it at your peak torque, so its about 3-3.5k, and if you owned a 2015 then you should know the hellcat and the jaguar have the exact same transmission with the exact same gear ratio. You have ZERO clue what youre talking about.
So have the Jag from a dig an roll the cat? When the bumpers align they go? I mean what else they expect from a dig when its AWD VS RWD an vise verse. After a couple tries they should get the timing down pact should make for a cool view an race an show both strengths n weaknesses at the same time
This is exactly why I got rid of my hellcat WB charger. The RWD makes it such a challenge to launch and only drag tires help which defeats the purpose for a street car.
As a Jaguar FType owner myself I am rather biased and pleased it smokes most cars but the Hellcat is pure American cool and I bet it’s super fun to drive on the long straight cruises if not on the twisty stuff like the Jag excels in… both cars are sure fire head-turners!
Auto is faster if you can get traction if not then manual is your best bet off the line then i would enable auto mode with the stick once traction and gear are happy without a tire but really you need a tire to compete against a lighter awd car on a non preped surface typically. Hell a r888r will work fine unless it rains then your screwed. also warming those softer compound tires helps. Good job to dane for conducting both test in that environment he drove well considering the odds and envirnment. These cars give race car drivers a run for their money without drag radials and glue and damn sure not on a 275 hard with 20 inch rims equiped with a street tire, thats a fact. Well done man, much respect. Good video sam, awesome content as always. never relized the newer jags were so nasty.
@@yusufgta4341 yes it is extremely hard but driver never really took off, with a very powerful rwd you need to feather the throttle and start possibly below 2000rpm until it gains traction, the driver of this hellcat lost by bus lengths
I have a race on video against the F-type R…. We were even until 80ish and then it pulled away slowly (but steadily). Seems the hellcat powered cars have the opposite experience compared to the Hellcat powered SUVs. 🤣 great video!
@@SamCarLegion yes, the hellcat with no options comes with 275 junk rear tiers.. no car has that, it just needs proper tires that most of the competition has or the optional upgrade, corvette has over 300 wide
The Ford Coyote supercharged? I have a Challenger and had an Amg and driven a few supercars. The Jag is a much better balance of a car for street use. My Supercharged Lightning was the first gen of basically the modern GT500 engine. They are underrated.
One needs to know and realize the difference between 100-150 hp is only about a second or 1-11/2 car length on a roll…for doing rolling runs. it should be around 60-160 mph takes the full length of the gears without stressing too much on the drivetrain, rolling runs is to mimic real world highway top speed runs not drag racing so 60 is a good compromise and which the euro cars are built for.
Another way to look at that is you can get a used one still in warranty on the cheap. I bought a 16 R with less than 40K miles for 44K with a CPO warranty until 2023, and I bought my father a 400 Sport for 59K (I paid a premium because it was the color combo he wanted)
That s not a 2020 or newer hellcat t s the 707 hp version .You can tell because it has the regular hood not the dual snorkel. Hellcats absolutely need a drag radial tire on the rear in order to hook up.
@@beachesandhose2374 no they don’t . Many of my friends have gone 10.8 and 10.9 bone stock hellcat on drag radials . Go watch the video of me going 9.93 with a challenger red eye with a tune cat delete pipes and meth it’s on my channel
@@camirocz well you got like 400 videos on your channel so I can't exactly go and look for a needle in a hay stack right now and was that time on a prepped surface or on a street surface?
@@beachesandhose2374 9second red eye challenger @napierville dragway .Punch that in and you will see it . Also have a few regular ones going 10.40s with and drag radials and a tune .
@Aaron_Toa You can put it up or down anytime. I think it goes up over 50 mph, but i wanna see if putting it up at the very beginner makes any different. I don't think he turns traction control off, it is very different with it on and off.
really Nexen on hellcat ? I like nexen, actually decent tires, but not on a hell cat you drag race. i put falken azenis fk510 on my stinger & they grip Great for summer performance tires. highly recommend if dont want to spend $$ on big name models
What do you mean nobody races from a dig? Lol you make it seem like everyone is meeting up at prepped drag strips with their Jags and Chargers. The reality is, people want cars with immediate off the line response. From a stop light. 99% of buyers aren’t putting slicks on their cars. If you can’t win from a simple stop light dig, then you’ve already lost half the argument of getting a car like that
@@jabariphillips8855 most races I see are roll races. If you watch RUclips videos guys are not stopping on the highway and racing. Only an idiot races in town at a stoplight where most speeds are 40mph. That a good way to cause a wreck when you kill a family coming out of Walmart. Come guy you must be a teenager.
@@stangedude5646 you’re really not a street racer are you? Please look up an reputable channel on YT. Babayaga for example. There’s plenty of private roads to race on buddy, again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@jabariphillips8855 Nope I'm not a street racer I'm an Investigator.. lol. I race on the track, but most here in Dallas are arrested on the highways. Hope that helps. In addition racing on private roads is also illegal if it hasn't been certified and approved for racing. Like the tracks you go to that are on private property.
I'm getting ready to paint my f-type, and yellow really wasn't a consideration until now. That's nice. Oh, and by the way, with a simple tune that jag picks up about a half second in the quarter.
@@billnye5183 yeah because you're modded lmfao, not stock, otherwise you're getting dropped. you raced a goon, hey goof, look up 60-120 times for both cars or roll races on youtube, it gets dropped after a few seconds( as expected)
@@ytsux9259 yeah with the bone stock non performance 275 wide skinny tires.. all you do is swap the tires with something all competitors, a wide, proper performance tire and it'll hook fine and then smoke everyone
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107,000km 😂 thanks again for having me Sam, always nice to see new cars on the track
Engine getting tired?
@@nokoolaid probably..? Who else abuses a hellcat like me?
@@Mr.BobbyHellcat I have no idea. :)
The jag would be my pick; impressive from a dig and I'm sure it would win on a road course. Plus, not as many on the road.
The Jag doesnt look like a brick wall on wheels either
The Hellcat is fast no doubt, but Challengers are a dime a dozen compared to that sexy ass F-Type.
I'd pick the Jag any day.
Between id pick the jag but if its charger redeye I'm choosing the charger its a 4 door that goes 205+😏
I`m a Dodge-driver. If someone gave me a car for free and I can choose between these two, I also take the F-Type. Then I would sell it and buy two used Hellcat`s and a used Pickup-Truck down in the U.S. for that money 😆 Traveling-costs & shipping included 😉 Jaguar`s are technically refined expensive high-end cars for people with money - Dodge builds cheap cars for working-class-people... like me 😉 Not refined, of course 😆 They are in the price segment of VW or Opel here in Germany, as long as you get them for the us-price. I would say they are ok for that. I have a lot of fun with it
@@tonymontana3873 And you will never reach that speed...ever. So what's the point? Bragging rights?
@@makstone Bro I never mentioned anyone going this fast what are u talking about? I simply stated that it has the ability to go over 205 while being family sedan. All im saying is that u can ride with 4 to 5 people and go fast at the same time I never bragged about anything so may I ask whats your point?😑
@@makstone why wouldn't he be able to hit 205? Right temp tires and road its possible for sure.
That little middle finger the jag gave the challenger by raising the spoiler in tge 1st race tho. LMAO
Of COURSE the Jag is gonna win .
It has ALL WHEEL DRIVE !!
😂
Jaguar all day everyday baby! 😁
Made in India all day every day.
Agree
@@7s29 source? Is that recent switch?
@@7s29 some are manufactured but not all
@@7s29 being owned by and Indian conglomerate and being assembled in Birmingham, England are very different things
As a Brit F-type SVR owner, i love my car, and the heritage of Jaguar. I am in the UK jaguar clubs and meets. its my forever dream car and so lucky to own one. But as a petrol head, i love that hellcat too. Sometimes who is faster than who doesn't matter, its the journey. Both journey in a different way.
I bet that hellcat is pure fun. Mine is awd and that USA red muscle Cat is rear wheel.
Both these cats are incredible.
I got my love of muscle car from the likes of dodge, chevrolet, ford, shelby, corvette and le mans racing. So thank you to the crazy engineers over the pond.
Those charged V-8's sound so GOOD!
Ikr
Until they shift. Autos sound terrible.
The drag race was embarrassing for that hellcat😂😂
Yeah no chance, wasn't ever going to hook at the start line. But the rolls were a different story!!
Wow an AWD car launches better than a RWD? Who would've thought? 🤣 Those rolling races were embarrassing for that jaguar 🤣
oh no is the black man who lives off ebt and foodstamps who drives a charger having a little fit@@DesertStateInEU
@@Gunships. oh no is the closet raysist who lives in their parents' basement and only owns cars in forza and nfs triggered?
I'm whyt btw 🤣🤣
jajaja nice try, i moved out my parents house a lil later than usual at 22 but nice try, sure my car isnt insanely nice but a 2019 F Pace SVR will sure as hell beats what ever you got bud@@DesertStateInEU
I have a 17 FType SVR and its such a blast to drive, especially in the twisties. I live in a climate that has snow 5 months out of the year. With snow tires, it'll smoke ANYTHING off the line on ice. Also, the rear end is super light, so it oversteers nicely on dry, wet, and icy roads. Its just a better all-around vehicle that can be driven hard in any weather condition. I've spoken with my money - its all on the jag.
What about dependability I know British make the worst cars dependent wise compared to German even tho German still sucks in reliability
@@issavibez394 I haven't had any issues at all, but I've only had the car for 14 months and I've got about 24K miles. In all fairness, every performance manufacturer has had their reliability issues. If that's a major concern, i recommend people buy a corvette, Mopar, or mustang - something that is cheap & easy to work on and can take a beating. The nearest Jag dealership is 6 hours away, so its definitely a concern for me.
@@issavibez394he best thing to do with any Jag or German Car is to purchase a good warranty, preferably from the dealership. The warranty will usually pay for itself within 1-2 repairs. For the most part I’ve only heard good things about the F-Types powertrain.
@@jabariphillips8855 their still junk but nice tho
@@issavibez394 “Junk” is a stretch but okay to each their own my guy.
So many videos out there make hellcats and demons look slow aha. Trust me. On drag radials and full hook those cars are absolute monsters. A hellcat isn't doing anything on a stock 275 all season lol.
Agree
That is a valid point or atleast have a staggered set up,wider rims on some sticky tires I mean something wtf guys
So let’s prep for them so they can be fast lmfao… listen to yourself. The average person on the streets is gonna be exactly how these cars are right now. So it’s a real world comparison.
@@joseg3186 sure, except the only thing holding one car back is tires. And the majority of these cars aren't run like this lol. Maybe in the hood.. the actual track has legit monsters. Even if you're going to run on the street atleast get some 305 nt555r or mickey street radials. Not some 275 all season 😅 some Nissan altima will torch it at the line posting "omg ahah hellcats so slow my moms altima took it on the line" - the joy of a high hp rwd car. Meanwhile where it.matters hellcats with a pulley and tire are running 10.7s lmao
@@Bizzair1990 not sure what world you live in but it takes a lot more than a tire for a hellcat to be fast… power to weight ratio is a thing. The very reason an NA mustang beats them pretty much every time. Let’s not even get started on mod for mod. Hellcats have zero chance…
That Jag is absolutely beautiful
Looks like a yellow banana 🍌
Where's Carl, the Shelby GT500 driver when you need him? Glad the Hellcat was able to redeem itself in the roll races. Thank you Sam.
kitty just needs new rims and tires. stock tires are absolute trash and cannot put power down. 0-60 on stock tires is 4.50-5 seconds 0-60.
@Winter Almeida porquê vende. É pesado porque usa um chassis antigo e tem um V8 Supercharger. Tirar peso significa usar um chassis novos e usar materiais mais caros, o que foge do objetivo de manter o preço razoável
@Winter Almeida Camaro é mais barato que o redeye, e mais caro que o Hellcat. Mas tem um chassis muito mais novo e leve, e no geral é um pouco menor que o Challenger
@Winter Almeida você não entendeu mano. Challenger tem 5,01m de comprimento, 1,41m de altura e 1,92m de largura. Camaro tem 4,78m de comprimento, 1,89m de largura e 1,34m de altura. Ou seja, além de usar um chassis mais leve e robusto é um carro menor. Outra vantagem é o motor, apesar de ambos serem 6.2L o Camaro usa um bloco pequeno, mais compacto e mais leve. O Supercharger usado no Camaro também é menor e mais leve.
Ao invés de gastar mais dinheiro tentando deixar o Challenger/Charger mais leve é melhor investir um uma plataforma totalmente nova. E fazer uma nova geração, assim como a GM fez. Deixando o Camaro da sexta geração 94kg mais leve que a anterior.
LOL talk about being bus lengths ahead that brick looking dodgy dodge looked like it was going as fast as a bus from start
Awesome race, both sick cars! Love the Jaguar!
Hellcat coming with 275 wide tires was such a dumb idea. Thing would launch like a rocket with some fatter tires
and it does if you look at people modding them with better tires.
Atleast get the Widebody with 305s...
You can go a 335 if you want but if it's not the right tire it means nothing.
Yes.... but stock vs stock is still a fair comparison
I've had a Italain Red '17 F Type R AWD for 2 1/2 years now and love her like the first day i got her.
Another thing both have the same ZF 8 pd auto
The Dodge is a female Russian powerlifter with a unibrow and the Jag is a Victoria's Secret model.
Realistically the Dodge is Miesha Tate while the jag is one of those starved skinny miserable girls that are pumped full of steroids before a photo shoot so they look presentable.
“A lot closer”
**Challenger disappears off the screen**
Yes😄😄😄
🤣
The Jag is just perfect
Other than that colour. It’s great for promotional videos and showing the lines of the car, but it would be old after a short while. Seen it play out with a guy on the forums. You can tell he regrets buying this colour. I do like it, just not on my car ;-0
Yeah, I gotta go with the Jag. It's just a cooler car. Good times. Great content, Sam! ;)
Couldn't agree more!
It would suck losing to a plain old hellcat in a dog and a race though Smh
the f type R costs 120k you silly.. it's not worth and in another price tier altogether.
@@roboticvenom1935 I'd pick a 2 year old, low mileage F Type R over a new Hellcat for the same money. Either way, depreciation sucks.
@@roboticvenom1935 and hellcat makes your pocket empty everyday while fueling
Woohoo! I forgot I was the flagman and apparently I had a damn good time in that role! Polar opposite cars showing off what they do well.
Thank you Jim
we still gotta race Jim. when you coming out to drag strip ?
Those cars sound incredible with the v8 itself but with that Supercharger now makes it music to the ears to any car guy!
Great race. Love that Jag aesthetically. Sounds good too super quick off the line. Active aero always cool. And that colour!
And y'all already know how I feel about Hellcats ✨😍✨ such a legendary whip
@Catholic Firefighter The Jag ($105,000+) got worked by the Hellcat ($69,000+) in the roll though. And with the savings, I am sure the owner of that car could throw some Drag Radials on the Cat and destroy the Jag off the line as well.
That Hellcat is on 275 all seasons lol
@Catholic Firefighter "Say you know nothing about cars without saying that you know nothing about cars."
@Catholic Firefighter but the hellcat is so damn heavy
@Catholic Firefighter I agree with you I would never get any of those cars I mean don’t get me wrong they would be fun to drive for a day but realistically it’s not worth to buy a hellcat
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 very well said ignore the AHole
Jag has come a long way since I was a kid, they look great and hopefully reliable
from what I read about, they have great power and all.. but definitely up there with maintenance, while reliability is somewhat questionable still
It’s a British car, I don’t think reliability is gonna be the best
Still not reliable. I have seen more F type on the back of a tow truck than I have seen driving down the road.
@Iamadroid yeah I know it's crazy they look nice but still not reliable. That's why they lose so much value so fast
They lose value because the brand has a bad rep in general, much of which no longer deserved with most modern Jags. The F-type in particular is quite reliable. Not sure where you are getting your facts but you are wrong. I know people who own them and if you go into the forums you will see they are pretty good. LR does have trouble spots.
Would be interesting to see how a 2015 F-Type R would do on a roll, because it's about 200 lbs lighter due to being RWD, and realistically, about the same power. No contest on looks though :)
@Corrie Elieff I have a 2015 F-type R. While it has 550 hp stock, it is still putting more horsepower to the wheels than the 575 hp SVR or 2022 R because it is not losing power through both a front and rear differential. Curb weight of my car with carbon ceramic brakes is just under 3,600 pounds. Not sure whether it would take the Hellcat from a roll, but it will beat an SVR or a 2022 575 hp R from a roll all day.
I have an f type at a roll the hellcat takes it 0-60 at a light jag takes any car u put it up against the takeoff is out of this world.
@@carlton9523 A RWD F Type R is the only one to have - Ceramic Brakes for the front only and a bag of cement over each rear wheel in the boot 😎😎
erm hellcat wimped at a standing start, the Jag has pedigree and looks, hellcats dime a dozen
Horsepower always wins in a roll. AWD always wins from a dig on the street with street tyres.
Jag is a beautiful car.
I drive a jag...nothing like them great car..
I was only interested in this channel to see what slow cars would beat which but NOW! NOW WE'RE TALKING!!! just subbed!
Hellcat was definitely not 6 cars ahead on roll lol
Love both of these cars, gotta say those races went just as expected lol you couldn’t go wrong owning either one
@Catholic Firefighter you sound butthurt are U ok?
Idk if you saw my comment the other day. So the reason why the F-Type R has the SVR engine specs it is bc we working with bmw now and the new SVR is gonna have the 4.4L TT V8 from the m5 and m8. Our new body style full size and sport have that 4.4l v8 already
Wish supercharger were used more instead of turbos.
agreed
Superchargers sound and feel better but turbos are dominant unfortunately.
Anyone who’s driven a Hellcat on the street knows you’re not hooking up from a dig. Even if it’s a widebody. The Redeye I got to take on a road trip was a widebody with 305s, I couldn’t even give it half throttle from a dig without the car absolutely lighting up the tires on the street. Some wide drag radials will help but you still won’t be able to launch it really hard. That’s part of its charm, it’s almost too much to handle on the street! The Jag would absolutely have an advantage from a dig here with AWD. Both very cool cars!
Don't they have traction control? Some cars even have full launch control.
@@joevarga5982 sure but traction control just applies the break and backs off timing to cut engine power enough so that the wheel losing traction can get grip. Good to get traction, terrible for performance. Like trying to launch your car hard and hitting the brakes at the same time.
@@TrackPackRT So you buy a super powerful "performance" car and you're telling me that there's no way to launch it to get low 0-60 and 1/4 mile times?
@@joevarga5982 absolutely there is, with drag radials (Mickey thompson et streets) and ideally at a drag strip. 717 hp (more specifically 656lb/ft of torque) is very difficult to launch. We’re talking a low 11 second-high 10 second car here, a pushrod V8 that makes so much of its torque down low in the rev range, it’s supposed to be a handful. That’s the point, it’s practically uncontrollable unless you know how to dial it in that’s part of what makes the car so endearing. If you ever get a chance to drive one you’ll get it.
@@TrackPackRT The guy in the video can't manage to launch the car because he's not familiar enough with his car. A performance car shouldn't be uncontrollable. Plenty of cars can spin the rear wheels and they're controllable. Why isn't the Hellcat?
He’s hittin the gas way to hard on the dig great race though
iv had two hellcats and i know that car would eat the jag.it looked like the hellcat driver couldnt get it going..sounded like it was missing..i had a 2016 and 2019 red eye...he needs street drag radials to even up the all wheel drive
I've often seen these type of match ups. The Challenger always has the worst take off. It's as though they're doing it on purpose.
@@7s29 No need to get thinking the car channels are conspiring against the Hellcats, they're legit just comparing the cars as they come off the lot. The tires that the Hellcat comes with from the dealership are not going to hold all that power under a full launch from a dig, but they're just fine for a roll race. That's the advantage AWD cars have - without an astronomical level of power, they'll still launch good on all-seasons that you get at a Walmart tire center.
Jaguar spoiler waved by to the hello kitty 😺
Shame muscle cars have a tough time putting their power down. They sound lovely
keep in mind this challenger doesn't have upgraded tires,(base model no options) it has skinny 275 junk tires.. competition all has thicker tires. These things hook on a proper radial tire.
Yep like always 0 surprise 👍🏻Numbers dont lie dodge better power to weight ratio win from roll and loose from stand still due to lack of traction 👍🏻
Your channel drag times and carwow are my go to race channel
Carwow races too many exotics for my liking.
@@Blue-moon12 exciting to watch
@@Blue-moon12 carwow can't race for crap too
Jaguar all day. WAY better build quality than the dodge. Performance, looks, handling, prestige. Complete package.
This is stating the obvious. The buyers for these 2 cars are not the same. Not in mentality or wallet size.
@1:55. You'll notice the dudes revving up the hellcat and the car isn't warmed up yet at all.🧐
@Catholic Firefighter congrats on the stupidest comment of the day
@Catholic Firefighter the engine still needs to be at operational temperature. You just don't want a Supercharged engine to heat soak.
I'm lucky enough to have vehicles with both of these engines and I really love them both.
Those bird killers in the background are hypnotic
The problem wasnt manual or automatic, it was the grip. The Dodge will have to either be moving OR have warmed tyres with a properly prepped race course. That much power needs warm and grippy tyres to translate into speed.
Step making excuses. Cause it still would have lost. Jag has same motor as the Gt500.
Just when Sam thought that he finally picked the winning car it was at this moment @06:44 he knew he F-ed up 🤣😂
How is this possible I always seen a Jaguar F-Type rwd beat red eye from a dig and f type r rwd on a roll vs a hellcat they need me shifting 😤
Jags are just slightly slower Hellcats for people who can read.
But fuck they look way cooler
Slightly? It got a bus put on it from a 30 mph roll which isnt even a good MPH for the hellcat.... Imagine a 40 or a 60.
@@77tt33 ..... On a roll race you would downshift, the jag didn't - driver mod
@@robertrichards4930 i know how to race... modern automatic transmissions downshift for you as soon as you hit the gas anyway, wouldnt have made up that distance lol, and plus 30 mph is at 5k rpm for a hellcat, i own a superstock with 3.09 gears trust me i know, so if this was a 40 or 60 the jag wouldve got gapped harder
@77tt33 ......not the Jag, you downshift put revs to about 4-4.5k then roll. I have owned a 2015 type R.
You don't know what you're talking about (not with the jag)
@@robertrichards4930 you never want your RPMs that high before a race... you want it at your peak torque, so its about 3-3.5k, and if you owned a 2015 then you should know the hellcat and the jaguar have the exact same transmission with the exact same gear ratio. You have ZERO clue what youre talking about.
this is my favorite car channel for exhaust eargasms
Really like this channel. Keep up the great work.
The Hellcat digs like miss Daisy.
I'll take the Challenger. Way cooler in my opinion.
and the jaguar costs 120k
@@roboticvenom1935 That too!
@@roboticvenom1935 lol right
@@roboticvenom1935 58k 😂
Well it rides better too, fyi. The jag’s ride isn’t great.
I have an f type it is unbeatable 0-60 if it’s at a roll the race would be a lot close but the 0-60 is out of this world
That hell cat will not lose on a roll lol
It shouldn’t lose that bad from a dig either. Why does the trap speed look so slow.
@@stanlee7635power means nothing from a stand if you don’t have the right tires for it.
Thanks very much for this video because, I just purchased a F-Type R and this gives me some Idea where I stand.
So have the Jag from a dig an roll the cat? When the bumpers align they go? I mean what else they expect from a dig when its AWD VS RWD an vise verse. After a couple tries they should get the timing down pact should make for a cool view an race an show both strengths n weaknesses at the same time
This is exactly why I got rid of my hellcat WB charger. The RWD makes it such a challenge to launch and only drag tires help which defeats the purpose for a street car.
So many people just can't beleive their dodge hellcats and demons just can't be beat lol
As a Jaguar FType owner myself I am rather biased and pleased it smokes most cars but the Hellcat is pure American cool and I bet it’s super fun to drive on the long straight cruises if not on the twisty stuff like the Jag excels in… both cars are sure fire head-turners!
When the kat was able to get traction,no competition
Auto is faster if you can get traction if not then manual is your best bet off the line then i would enable auto mode with the stick once traction and gear are happy without a tire but really you need a tire to compete against a lighter awd car on a non preped surface typically. Hell a r888r will work fine unless it rains then your screwed. also warming those softer compound tires helps. Good job to dane for conducting both test in that environment he drove well considering the odds and envirnment. These cars give race car drivers a run for their money without drag radials and glue and damn sure not on a 275 hard with 20 inch rims equiped with a street tire, thats a fact. Well done man, much respect. Good video sam, awesome content as always. never relized the newer jags were so nasty.
That roll race got y’all quite 🤧 stop hating on dodge 🎯
Jaguar still look better
What was 1/4 mile times?
Congrats on 200k!
Thank you!!
Hellcat needs a driver mod
I don't think that would really change the outcome. 700+ hp on a prepped surface is hard to launch, let alone on an unprepped strip.
I don't think that would really change the outcome. 700+ hp on a prepped surface is hard to launch, let alone on an unprepped strip.
@@yusufgta4341 yes it is extremely hard but driver never really took off, with a very powerful rwd you need to feather the throttle and start possibly below 2000rpm until it gains traction, the driver of this hellcat lost by bus lengths
I have a race on video against the F-type R…. We were even until 80ish and then it pulled away slowly (but steadily). Seems the hellcat powered cars have the opposite experience compared to the Hellcat powered SUVs. 🤣 great video!
No grip :(
@@SamCarLegion yeah traction makes a huge difference for sure
@@S8ER yeah... No competition.. hellcat is the WAY faster out of the two here. Put both on slicks and this wouldn't even be a race.
@@SamCarLegion yes, the hellcat with no options comes with 275 junk rear tiers.. no car has that, it just needs proper tires that most of the competition has or the optional upgrade, corvette has over 300 wide
The Ford Coyote supercharged? I have a Challenger and had an Amg and driven a few supercars. The Jag is a much better balance of a car for street use. My Supercharged Lightning was the first gen of basically the modern GT500 engine. They are underrated.
HELLCAT SAID BY LITTLE KITTY🔥🔥🔥🔥👌🏾‼️
We are all waiting for awd option for challenger, mustang and charger cars.
keep in mind this challenger doesn't have upgraded tires, it has skinny 275 junk tires..
that jag sounds amazing 😍
The hello kitty got spanked.
I believe you mean CAT FIGHT
Yep
Try this on a prepped track and better tires
One needs to know and realize the difference between 100-150 hp is only about a second or 1-11/2 car length on a roll…for doing rolling runs. it should be around 60-160 mph takes the full length of the gears without stressing too much on the drivetrain, rolling runs is to mimic real world highway top speed runs not drag racing so 60 is a good compromise and which the euro cars are built for.
I'll take the F Type.... Challengers = dime a dozen... However, too bad F Type depreciation is a sad graph to look at!!
I’ll take the F Type too
yeah but it's 120k
@@iQuattro1 yeah but it's 120k
Another way to look at that is you can get a used one still in warranty on the cheap. I bought a 16 R with less than 40K miles for 44K with a CPO warranty until 2023, and I bought my father a 400 Sport for 59K (I paid a premium because it was the color combo he wanted)
That's why you buy a low miles 2yr old F-type. Cheep pulley upgrade and tune you're beating hellcats on a roll np.
That jag is just beautiful.
They both look soo awesome 😍😍😍😍.....Love from India
Did Sam reveal his new car yet???????????
Once you get traction the Dodge lays waste to the jag.
That s not a 2020 or newer hellcat t s the 707 hp version .You can tell because it has the regular hood not the dual snorkel. Hellcats absolutely need a drag radial tire on the rear in order to hook up.
They need more than that
@@beachesandhose2374 no they don’t . Many of my friends have gone 10.8 and 10.9 bone stock hellcat on drag radials . Go watch the video of me going 9.93 with a challenger red eye with a tune cat delete pipes and meth it’s on my channel
@@camirocz well you got like 400 videos on your channel so I can't exactly go and look for a needle in a hay stack right now and was that time on a prepped surface or on a street surface?
@@beachesandhose2374 9second red eye challenger @napierville dragway .Punch that in and you will see it . Also have a few regular ones going 10.40s with and drag radials and a tune .
Love it when I see the Jag!!
They need to have someone who knows how to launch that cat drive. If you have a hellcat put some damn mickey thompsons on it
Bro the intro gave it away
Is the traction ctrl off? also put the Spolier up for Jaguar from the starting. Did you hold the break and 50% throttle for the gas?
@Aaron_Toa You can put it up or down anytime. I think it goes up over 50 mph, but i wanna see if putting it up at the very beginner makes any different. I don't think he turns traction control off, it is very different with it on and off.
my bad, he did put some gas, the car went down slightly
@Aaron_Toa what year?
I have 2017 type R, 550hp. I can turn it on and off anytime, but probably not when it is over 60
@Aaron_Toa US
As soon as I seen the Nexen tires... I knew the results of what the race was going to be from a dig😶.
really Nexen on hellcat ? I like nexen, actually decent tires, but not on a hell cat you drag race.
i put falken azenis fk510 on my stinger & they grip Great for summer performance tires. highly recommend if dont want to spend $$ on big name models
@@rpmautoreviews9249 facts. If he is not on a drag radial that is sitting on like 21PSI and heat them up its not going to hook. Is your stinger AWD?
@@shotss-si3ze in Canada, yes awd
Nobody really races full stop if they do its on the track and to put power down you need slicks. Roll racing is real world.
What do you mean nobody races from a dig? Lol you make it seem like everyone is meeting up at prepped drag strips with their Jags and Chargers. The reality is, people want cars with immediate off the line response. From a stop light. 99% of buyers aren’t putting slicks on their cars. If you can’t win from a simple stop light dig, then you’ve already lost half the argument of getting a car like that
@@jabariphillips8855 most races I see are roll races. If you watch RUclips videos guys are not stopping on the highway and racing. Only an idiot races in town at a stoplight where most speeds are 40mph. That a good way to cause a wreck when you kill a family coming out of Walmart. Come guy you must be a teenager.
@@stangedude5646 you’re really not a street racer are you? Please look up an reputable channel on YT. Babayaga for example. There’s plenty of private roads to race on buddy, again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@@jabariphillips8855 Nope I'm not a street racer I'm an Investigator.. lol. I race on the track, but most here in Dallas are arrested on the highways. Hope that helps. In addition racing on private roads is also illegal if it hasn't been certified and approved for racing. Like the tracks you go to that are on private property.
@@jabariphillips8855 if you dont have the proper liability insurance in Texas you can't race on private property.
It's all about the tired when you get up in the 700+ bhp and that much torque. My 2018 CTSV had the same issue until I went with the sport up 2s
Yes
Challenger needed a driver mod from the dig lol. But, I'll drive the fuck out of the Jag aswell
Give me the hellcat. Mopar baby!
I'm getting ready to paint my f-type, and yellow really wasn't a consideration until now. That's nice. Oh, and by the way, with a simple tune that jag picks up about a half second in the quarter.
I wouldn’t say “a lot closer”
Blood bath for the hellocatty
Can’t beat him in a dig at the track. Mopar or no car 💪🏿
Mopar good and all but I can’t afford a hellcat but ion wanna lose to a scatpack either so I gotta go q50 😂
@@ozzy_fromhell my 3.7 beats 5.7😂 and I can keep up with a scat until 140 so it’s not worth the dodge product 💀
Hell Cats would lose to a bicycle from a dig on the streets.
@@billnye5183 yeah because you're modded lmfao, not stock, otherwise you're getting dropped. you raced a goon, hey goof, look up 60-120 times for both cars or roll races on youtube, it gets dropped after a few seconds( as expected)
@@ytsux9259 yeah with the bone stock non performance 275 wide skinny tires.. all you do is swap the tires with something all competitors, a wide, proper performance tire and it'll hook fine and then smoke everyone
" Two kitties going again each other "
What lake did you pull that dodge from the bottom of?
Gee a 5 passenger adult car, VS a 2 passenger adult car LOL !!!
Thanks for the heads up... next!
i watch every video ! more mopar please and kia optima sxl !
I bet if you put 4 drag slicks on the jag?
it could hold its own on a dragstrip against anything 700hp.
Lighter and quicker I guess… 👍🏾!