"Doppelgangland" Buffy Reaction! S3E16
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"bored now" and "I think I'm kinda gay" have always been 2 of my favourite Willow lines
Allison Hannigan is brilliant here. She effectively plays four distinct roles: Willow, Vampire Willow, Willow pretending to be Vampire Willow, and Vampire Willow pretending to be Willow. Great acting.
My headcanon about Westley is that his cover is that he's interning for a degree in Library Science. An unpaid internship would explain his presence and we've seen that the council has resources so they could set it up.
Watching Alyson play what is essentially four different versions of the same character, and doing so so subtly that you can easily tell who she is playing, is always a treat.
This is the episode I always really look forward to once people get to The Wish, and it never disappoints. 😁 Always a fun episode to watch people react to!
First off, well done clocking both Willow’s getting the sand on her causing the chaos and Oz “will of my own”; many don’t (including me for years and years). Also, I was grinning like a fool when you said “We’re going to meet a Willow who’s much more inclined to stand up for herself.” Because, well…yes. :)
Consdering how much you like Anya already, I can’t wait for you to see her more. With my first watch through as a wee 18 year old I didn’t appreciate her character, but now my neurodivergent adhd ass who has been learning a lot about autism via friends finds Anya to be endearing and more authentic than anyone else. Masking is exhausting, and she just refuses, because she has no reason to give a shit about how she comes off to people.
Agreed, I've always loved Anya. She is an amazing character
Anya is a great case of "representation matters" - love her!
Honestly, a stellar episode altogether, with great acting by Alyson Hannigan, but one nuance I like is when Buffy is about to stake vampire!Willow, and is then able to stop immediately when she's told not to, because it's her doing *exactly* what Faith was unable to do with the deputy mayor...
Oh, that’s interesting; nice one.
The question of how does Wesley get away with hanging out at a school all day is a fair one.
I like to imagine there was a moment like this at some point.
Giles: I've told Snider I've taken on a trainee librarian.
Buffy: And he was okay with that?
Giles: He was once I explained that the school was essentially getting a full-time unpaid intern with a masters degree, which reminds me (turns to Wesley who has just entered the room) I said you'd cover 3rd period history on Tuesday. You might want to read the textbook in preparation. It has some... interesting notions about the late 18th century.
Brilliant!
I love your head cannon!!! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Angel's "Well actually..." line is one of the best ever. The council probably decided that having Wesley as a watcher is punishment enough for Faith.
Wes is fresh out of Watcher's school, I'd imagine he was 22, like a college graduate.
My son just walked and said "I knew you were watching her reactions." I get so tickled with your reactions. Lol.
Faith should have been in therapy.
I loved your reaction to Doppelgangland, I feel more more than most other reactors I’ve seen you just get what the show is trying to do, not to mention you understand the cultural context it came out in. And your predictions are therefore really interesting and get me thinking about what the show was and what it could have been.
I love Xanders line from this episode 'Can you believe the watcher council let this guy go' Xander isn't always one of my favourite characters but he delivers some of my most favourite Buffy lines
16:13 Hello, Sandy.... Goodbye, Sandy.
Okay, so NOW I feel like I can say it: The Wish showed us a version of Buffy without her friends and there wasn't a lot of difference between her and Faith, as forshadowed in the teaser convo. Doppelgangland begins with Buffy saying she could've ended up like Faith and WIllow insisting that "some people just don't have that in them," then forced her to face the id version of herself. Thematic unity, baby! It's all about Faith! (and thus all about Buffy since Faith is kind of a shadow archetype .)
17:52 "Stoplickingthedamnthing". There, I said it. Thanks, Gale.
When Angel almost says something so awkward but catches himself just in time 🤣
Or rather, he stops talking because Buffy gives him the most pointed look
I love this episode!
It does a great job of showing us how vampirism corrupts someone’s pre existing traits, demonstrating that a vampire retains aspects of their human selves.
Every time I watch this episode, it makes me wonder what I’d be like as a vampire, what part’s of my personality would be similar to me as a human 🤔
Anya is everything!!! I don't have enough words for how much I love her.
This is one of my top 10 episodes. I laugh from start to finish. Alyson Hannigan just kills it.
"I've been battered by this show."
Oh, Hun! Buckle up.
More specifically, because the sand went on her instead of the drawing of the necklace, it brought over the other her instead of the necklace.
Since Buffy marked her 18th birthday a few episodes before this, it's likely that Cordelia had as well by this point.
Charisma (Cordy) is a few years older than Sarah, & Alyson. (She's 53 (54 in July), Sarah is 46 (47 in April) Alyson will be 50 next month). Alexis (Wesley is 5 years older).
"She had it rough. Different circumstances, that could be me."
And in the Wishverse, we saw Buffy was right. Neat little callback.
Vampire Willow and Xander still have the same backstory before Buffy came, so I think their relationship would've survived ;)
Just to add a strange twist to the Wesley/Cordelia discussion, I was wondering if you knew that Alyson Hannigan and Alexis Denisof(Wesley) have been happily married since 2003, there's a 9 year age difference.
I think Wesley and Cordelia was never really thought much about by fans because in honesty Cordy looked about the same age, I think the age gap between the actors was only a few years, Charisma never looked like a teenager (where as Buffy and Willow did) and in season 3 dressed a lot older. Not saying thats right! Also Wesley was so immature. Wesley becomes one of my favourite characters.
Yeah, Charisma was 29 and Alexis was 33 when this episode was recorded (Allison 25, SMG 22, Nicholas 28).
@@Henrik_Holst did not realise Nicholas was that old. I mean by season 5 none of them really pass for the age they are supposed to be. Never bothered me though like with some other shows.
They never say how old Wesley is, so by their age/looks math he could be like 21-22 😂
@colleendooley3689 agreed, Wesley looked really young too, and acted it! Not sure if I'm right but I just never got creepy vibes from him, he felt quite harmless. Buffy and Angel to me always felt weird, I never got it. Possibly because I was about 12 when I watched it, and first episode I ever watched was penultimate episode of series 2! Then watched half of series 3 before I got them on VHS and caught up
The age gap that I always found interesting but no one seems to mention is Jenny/Giles. Now, I don't know how old Jenny was supposed to be but I assume around the actress's age. Robia was 27 and Tony/Giles was 43. All perfectly legal but it's always shocking to me when I remember he was 16 when she was born! 😂 (For reference: Robia and Charisma are the same age lol)
Hannigan kills it in this episode! Soo good!
One of the best episodes of the series. My personal seventh favorite BtVS episode, my fifteenth favorite of both shows, and my sixteenth concerning everything canon (including canon comics and the audio play).
What’s your first favourite BtVS episode?
@@ShaunLJ94 Top ten
1. Once More with Feeling
2. The Body
3. Are You Now or Have You Ever Been
4. Orpheus
5. Hush
6. You’re Welcome
7. Innocence
8. Waiting in the Wings
9. Restless
10. A Hole in the World
Just happens to be split evenly between five BtVS and five AtS episodes.
SUPA BUFFY EPISODE NUMBA ONE!
I've been looking forward to seeing your reaction to this episode since you started watching BtVS. It was everything I was hoping for & more! Hope you enjoyed your break, take care!!
Willow -- "...and I think I'm kinda gay..."
I love Willow so much!!!
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Look at those! :)
It's so sad to me that Wesley has only been in Sunnydale a short time and is already more prepared than all the others: he carries both a cross and holy water! 😂
I think Kristin is gonna like Season 4…
I love seasons 4,5,6 the most. And during one of those seasons is the best episode of TV ever. And season that is changes for different people.
@@RLucas3000 I love seasons 5 and 6 much more than 4, but everything else you've said I 100% agree with!
This is such a great episode, I love it so much. It's also a bit of a breath of fresh air after all the heaviness of the last few episodes, even if that means the Faith stuff gets a little neglected, and I am always a fan of Willow focused episodes
Loved this reaction! Oh, by the way, the actors that play Wesley and Willow are married in real life. Just an odd bit of trivia that struck me...
"She had it rough. Different circumstances, that could be me."
And in the Wishverse epsiode we saw that it wasn't the case at all. Buffy being charitable as usual and thinks too low of herself.
I get what you’re saying, but I think there’s a caveat/disclaimer/thingy that goes along with that. I think Buffy in the Wishverse was pretty close to what Faith was like what she first appeared on the scene. To your point, she wasn’t where Faith is now, but I’d argue she was a step or two closer to it than she is in the Prime universe (he said, shameless stealing words from Trek fandom).
@@noahrobin1941 sorry but I'm in full disagreement here. Buffy in the Wishverse was all work no play while Faith when we met her (and basically since) was all play no work.
I simply cannot understand what kind of Faithisms that people see in Wishverse Buffy, that Buffy was strickly business, no bs, no jokes and it's slay or die. AKA as far from Faith as you can come.
I think Faith was business-like in her own way. Yeah, she liked a good time, but (like Wishverse Buffy, I suspect) she defined herself, in whole or in part, by being a Slayer. She (rightly or wrongly) thinks she’s above other people and their rules, and will do what she thinks she can/must to do the job (stealing weapons, assaulting cops, justifying murder, etc). Not saying Wishverse Buffy would do /all/ those things; Wishverse Buffy is her own person, not a carbon copy of Faith. I just think that without the Sunnyvale support system Prime Buffy enjoys, Faith and Wishverse Buffy both developed in ways which separated them from others, and which made them a bit colder, more detached. For instance, one gets the impression that WishBuffy doesn’t have much in the way of personal relationships, whereas Faith has some but doesn’t take them seriously. They’re not identical situations by any means, but there’s some similarity. I think one of the differences is that Faith at least claimed to enjoy it (and probably does, in some ways) whereas, like you said, Wishverse Buffy is all the business/drive, without the enjoying of it part.
@bin1941 we probably agree on more points than we disagree :).
It's just that there are a fan theory out there that is quite strong with some that holds that Buffy and Faith are just complete mirrors of themselves, aka had Faith grown up like Buffy then she would have been a carbon copy of current Buffy and had Buffy grown up like Faith she would be a carbon copy of Faith. Too me this is mostly them liking Faith and trying to rationalize away her being a murderer be going down the "but you too" route when it comes to Buffy.
Which makes Mirrorverse so important because that shows a Buffy with no friends and no support system and she is still not murdering people and are also taking being the slayer as the calling it is.
Meanwhile Faith simply uses the slayerpowers for her own benefits [redacted due to spoilers].
I never got so into the show that I got into all the fan theories; I certainly believe you that it exists and (as you suggested) we agree that it seems wrong. With less skilled writers it certainly could’ve been done that way, but it’s I think it’s too simplistic an answer. Also, while I appreciate the phrasing, may I gently suggest you edit your previous and remove the last paragraph? It’s not spoilery in any earth-shattering way but it does mention future events.
I think this was another great episode from S3 and always a fan favourite with 'Vampire Willow' back again great incredible foreshadowing here too, and great comedy moments too when Willow puts on the sexy leather outfit and looks so awkward trying to act tough and evil. The fight scenes from S3 onwards improve so much. Can see how you are really appreciating the quality of writing and story lines as the series progresses. BTW regarding Wesley and Cordelia we have to remember Cordelia is now 18, and Wesley is not a teacher at the school, so all very legal and OK. However it was never explained how Wesley as an unauthorised person was able to just float around the school at will. That being said, even though he was not liked by fans at first, he provides some great comedy moments and I think he will grow on you.
A nice fun one for you after that string of heavy episodes
Great episode, it was cool to see Vampire Willow again
"I'll do it for Giles". I think you'll find many would.
A fantastic episode!
Cordy is 18, and Wesley's character is supposed to be young, like 24ish, but I still don't love the joke. I'm already bothered by Buffy/Angel enough.
How about Weasley's actor marrying Willow's actor?
Having so much fun watching your vids dude ❤ still want to give you all my money for full reactions ...
18:31 cheers to that!
I’ve been bingeing your videos and I love them!I’m a Buffy/Angel shipper I just want to know why do you not like them?
I think Wesley is supposed to be 24 or 25.
And I think Cordelia's 18.
But not Charisma.
Nah Charisma's like 37
29 in third season. Her and Robia LaMorte (Jenny Calendar's actress) are the same age
@@Turalcar do you remember... or maybe you're too young actually. I remember when she used to be I don't remember which one. She was either Diamond or Pear, but she ran with Prince. She was going on tour with him and appeared in videos and was basically a glorified groupie but not exactly yet not exactly his girl either. but she did at least to some extent represent some embodiment of fantasy. This also reminds me of the movie Grease where you know 35 year olds were playing high school students and yet there was a chemistry between the actors and it just worked despite not really being believable that 16 year old and a 35-year-old are in any way a match but we're not talking about missing teeth and geriatrics and I don't have an ultimate point here I realize this lacks sophisticated editing fyi.
@@codypendragons Too young. I only recently looked that up