I didn't go to a loctician...I had my mom do it...she didn't know wat she was doing or nothin bout dreads and I love them...I think they all different sizes but my momma did them and they look perfect to me so I love them...and we both learn how to take care of my hair together
Right my mom is no professional but I love my hair even more knowing that she went out her way to learn get better and continue to put love into my hair i don’t want anyone else but her touching mine they’re both our babies
I have been a loctician for 17 years and I can't tell you the amount of clients that come to me with damaged thinning locs, nasty build up and incorrect information So many people are out there without knowledge taking folks money and damaging their locs.
I stopped doing locs because of how awful the market has become. I can no longer deal with people who are misinformed about the proper process. You spend so much time retraining the thinking of the abused clients than doing the hair service.
Yeah. I know. I was one of those clients who received misinformation for YEARS through about 5 or 6 sets of locs. I just had to educate myself. I probably could have had locs down to my feet by now (not that I'd ever grow them that long) had I not had to cut my locs off so many times and start over due to the miseducation and greediness of stylists I've patronized over the last 16yrs.
I had to switch locticians because the one who started my locs didn’t want to shampoo my hair. I have seborrheic dermatitis and she sent me home with flakes twisted into my locs. I’m now 15 weeks into my journey and my scalp is healthy because my new loctician actually gets in there to cleanse my scalp.
I am a Loc Stylist. ♡ I am Very Happy I Passed the Tests. :) I Agree with Everything you Said. Healthy Locs are My Main Priority for My Clients and I. Great Video...
First time I got my hair coiled, I didn't educate myself. I went to an African Hair Braiding shop and the lady used black gel. I realized after 1 week that my hair felt 'gummy.' I washed that mess out and found a Loctician. It's been all good from there. 5 months later and I have tremendous growth
This video is very helpful and important! A hairstylist started my locs and also told me not to wash my hair for about 3 months to help it loc' up. Then I had to go to another person and I found her by faith. She put me in check, she said you need to wash your hair hahahahhaha. I'm still with her till this day. She is actually a great loctician and this video proves it.
One loctitian I know uses her own products that she mixes. Won't tell what's in them, apparently she is "protecting her formula". Needless to say, she didn't get in my hair. I prefer to maintain my own locs.
PalmettoPrincess You did right! If someone is using something on you they have a right to inform you of the ingredients they are using. You could be allergic or they could be using something completely absurd.
I currently live overseas and I cut my locs when I moved but soon after while I was on vacation in the states, my loctician re started them. I've been maintaining them myself for the past 7 months and I'll go back to her during the Xmas holidays. She is awesome. She is about the health of locs, and educating clients about locs. Her locs are 15 yrs old and she is an awesome representation of her business as well as her clients. No walk ins. Consultations are a must. Great video!
I washed my hair every 2 weeks when I started my locs and I retwisted each time I washed to facilitate the locing process. Now I am 19 months loc'd and I only retwist every 3-4 months.
Cherrell Mishelle ....... How many months in were you before you stopped the 2 week re twisting? I'm 3 months in and do the same 2 week routine. Some areas are locing, some aren't.
Great tips! There is so much misinformation out there on how to maintain locs even within the black hair community. I constantly have people ask if I can wash my hair and who have no clue what the difference between manicured locs and semi free form or free form locs are. I tell them most locs are probably cleaner than their hair and they cant believe it lol.
My loctician told me that she needed to wash my hair until it loced. Then she said i could wash it on my own. Never been told that starter locs could not be washed.
My loctician said that too. I just started my journey with comb coils so I guess she doesn’t want them to uncoil. But I’m thinking of getting a stocking cap so maintain the coils
I just started my locs 2 days ago and the young lady who did them said she's been doing locs for 10+ years. I followed her Instagram and her work looked good. When I went to get mines done she used some type of blue gel for my coils and continuously sprayed my hair with this super holding spray. My coils feel extremely hard and I can even see the build up already happening from whatever gel and spray she used. There are little white flakes starting too. I'm really sad about this but most likely I will have to wash my hair and start over again because I'm not satisfied at all and I want to start off right.
Naylan Wow, I am SO sorry that this happened to you! There are people who have years of "experience" on their resume, but aren't qualified. Unfortunately some people have been messing up people's heads for years. I've seen individuals with decades of buildup in their locs. I'm so glad you are informed and won't be going back. Give your hair a deep wash and cleanse and start over the right way😊.
That’s sad to hear. There are a lot of people like this. One lady was quoting me £2500 for starter locs. Ridiculous. I started them myself with two strand twists.
I’m so tired of rude loctitians! That’s all I’ve been meeting and I really want to start my loc journey. They either want to charge a high price, had bad work, and weren’t willing to share with me information about the process before I come in, and someone told me my hair is too long to start my locs with comb coils and it’s about the length your hair was when you started with your first set. I’m so discouraged. I live in Michigan and it’s hard finding someone here that can do good locs and have good service. I really don’t want to start with two strands but I’ll start them myself if I have to
This info is great! I have Sisterlocks and I started with a trainee. I was her second client and although I did see her first client's hair journey while with her, I personally decided to maintain my own locs plus I stopped using the Sisterlocks products on my hair for several reasons. 1) My trainee takes a long time. It took her 62 hours to establish my locs and 15 hours to retighten them. I started braidlocs on my daughter and maintain them with interlocking so I figured if it took that long, I can do them myself and follow up 2x a year with another consultant to make sure everything is going smoothly. 2) My trainee has traditional locs and were trying to use methods like backcoming and twisting the ones that she couldn't interlock during the maintanence as my hair is frizzy and she wants my ends to seal up (I love my frizzy ends and told her I don't mind my ends as it gives my locs body and fullness...which I like) she insisted that backcoming Sisterlocks will a method she wants to use on all of her clients during maintanence. Although there is talk about backcoming during the establishment that I've seen during my research...there wasn't anything referring to that as a maintanence method. Actually, I only saw one other person mentioning their consultant doing that and the responses where saying she should look for someone else as that's not something that's typically done. 3) Although she probably never seen the ingredients in some of the Sisterlocks products, one particular shampoo I used (the dandruff shampoo that she recommended me to purchase) has Beeswax in it. Once I mentioned it was in there, she said "Well they made Beeswax for a reason so it's good for something". The reason I looked at the list waa because after using it, my scalp felt like it was on fire so I wanted to see what was in there. I simply trusted it because it was a "Sisterlocks product" but it had several ingredients I heard shouldn't be used in locs. Plus, before doing braidlocks on my daughter's head, I once started hers with Beeswax and not only was it sticky, it made her head itch. 4) During the 15 hour retightening, my trainee was more concerned about ensuring every loc ended on the same rotation, but failed to understand that was hurting my head. After she was done some of my locs felt like it does after getting fresh braids to the point i had to just put my hair under water. I ended up with a scab in the front so I know to stop before it gets tight when I do them. I just figured it will be best to maintain my hair and continue to maintain my daughter's hair. I rather that we have healthy hair than it falling out. Not saying every loctition is bad, but I don't want to have to keep running from person to person to maintain our heads. Plus, it's good to know how to do your own hair every now and then.
My locs were started w/ gel && that’s the only time she’s ever used it. She told me that she used the gel to “set them” and she’d never use it again && she hasn’t. She uses oil to retwist my hair now, so I don’t totally agree w/ number 1, but everything else I completely agree w/. Great video. 👍🏾
This Queen knows what she's talking about definitely, I've been researching locks for years and years I'm on my second Journey now locks love water, the beginning stages of my locks is when I did the most maintenance the less product the better the biggest thing is keeping locks moisturized And stress-free no tension on them locks are beautiful
Warnings 1 - 5, in one way or another have been my experiences thus far in my lotician experience. I recommend dropping in to see what their other clients look like, as well as ask questions about every product and reasons behind their methods. *Attitude, customer service and clear communication are imperative keys to selecting a quality loc maintainer. xo.
I had a stylist use some type of custard like stuff on my locs. It only held my hair for 1 hour. The next time I went to her I told her I can only use water base products in my hair to hold the twist. She gave me some BS excuse about why she dont use it. Plus she kept turning all the hair care products she was using around so you couldn't see the brand and or the stuff she is using. Needless to say I don't go to her no more.
Girl I told my natural hairstylist I wanted to get locs and she said nah your hair is too short, wait a couple months. And she said once you do get it loced, you can't wash it for a month. That was the last time I sat in her chair lol. Smh!
Wen i got mine started my hair was really short so he said not to get it wet or wash it. After 2 months he washed it himself. And i went to him about every 3 weeks to a month. And it has grown alot. Bt since i moved it has stopped growing.
They all say to no wash your hair. i was miserable!!! my second set i said forget them im doing it on my own. SELF CARE IS TRUUULLY THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE MOST LOCTICIANS AREN'T KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THEIR CRAFT!
Yooooo I just came from one of your videos when you were 7 months in. Your locs are soooooooo Beautiful 😍😍😍 they look so healthy too.. yep I'm listening to you from here on out. Started my locs 1/9/19
Trouble is, you'll not know until you've been going a good while and some hairdressers dislike being asked the name and ingredients of products they're about to slap on YOUR head. My most recent appointment was last week. The whole thing took above 4 hours, door to door and I ended up unpinning the updo the same evening. I usually only have a wash and relock. This time I also had a ''detox'' which is basically bicarbonate of soda on my scalp for 25-30 mins. I'd been told the cost would be double the normal bill. However for some unknown reason, I was charged double plus an extra ten. I didn't quibble. My change was handed to me in small notes, I think the owner was expecting the usual tip but I stuffed it in my wallet really fast. Oh and the hair looked no better for having had a detox. In fact, the lint showed up even more. The only positive thing is the actual relock.
My first loctician passed the test😂😂😂. I started suspecting she was only after the money and not my hair growth. Told me not to wash my hair and had me come in every two weeks.
If your starter locs are "instant locked" then you can wash em after 2 weeks. If they're "coils or 2strand twists" then i would not recommend you wash em after 2 weeks, you'll end up back in a fro and the money you spent will all be just a waste. (Coming from someone who has had long dreads 3 times and currently has dreads now. Speaking from Experience)
2&4 Was Me and maybe 5. I just asked you a question about this very thing in another video a second ago. I asked questions and things like that, and believed her, my loctician, based on her work, but at the same time, I guess I just Trusted her to easily, Be-lieving that she would do right by me. Wasn't very talkative and didn't bring up anything until the LAST MINUTE, not even about my brownish-gold colored flaked hair that was supposed to be BLACK, my first 6 months. She actually told me to go see a dermatologist because of all of the dandruff! But at least NOW, I KNOW BETTER!!!!! Thanks 😚Nirvana! 😊
I am so glad i stumbled across you on here!!! You are beautiful and so are your locs. They are the exact size ive wanted to show my loctician at my consultation in two days. Def good points in this video. She started my mothers locs and definitely does not fit the margin for these errors! Thanks for the tips! Wish me luck on my journey😁😁😁🙏
I have been growing my locs for 11 years and I love them. Through my journey I have not found a loctician that cared about the health of my locs. So I have use atleast 7 or 8 and I haven't found the right loctician!! This past year I started with this new person and now 12 months later I noticed my hair was looking thinner. I really didn't know for sure so when I went for my maintenance before my loctician started on my hair I told her I think my hair is thinning. She ask where and I pointed to the top of my head. I really was not sure all I know my hair looked thinner. She never said a word about it she shampoo and latched like normal. Two days later I notice a lot of my locs were as thin as three pieces of thread. I'm devastated!! My beautiful locs of 11 years are ruined. How did she not see it??? It was so gradual I didn't even see it happening until it was to late. Can I sue her for neglect?
Thankfully I have 4C hair, I washed my hair every Monday and Friday from the start and still do to this day during the Florida summer months and once per week during the winter and I retwist once or twice a month. I just separate my hair after each wash to maintain my parts. Their is no way I would go without washing my hair to maintain a hair style. For me personally that would be unacceptable. Washing my hair frequently encourages tangles which results in my locks reaching maturity sooner. P.S. your locks are lovely
@melody I agree with your routine. I live in Alabama. Twice a week wash is a must to avoid the mustys! My hair is thick and washing has sped up the locking process and keeps my hair soft.
The last time I went to get mine started the chick was fast talking me so bad!!!!! The next day my hair was just full of dried white product in my hair. Falling like snow. She tried to convince me it was normal. And to wear a thick headband of I was uncomfortable. Wasted time and money. And she was a licensed cosmetologist. I was like... dang
Yeah i washed my hair after 2 weeks then every week after that. Then retwist every month sometimes longer time period between retwists. Also lucky for me my the person who does my hair i had first hand how good it would look as all her children had locks so i was quite pleased.
I wish I would’ve found your videos before I went to my first loctician! I informed my loctician that the product they used (Jamaican Mango & Lime) would cause a lot of build up in my hair. She was completely dismissive and told me that it’s one of the best products to use. Fast forward 3 weeks later and my hair had so much build up that I had to get a loc repair!
New to the channel & you're hair is gorgeous💕I luv my loc technician she specializes in natural hair. I started going to her in Aug just getting natural styles with updo protective styles. From Aug to now I have a great length. She cut all the perm hair out. She told me to come to her every 4 weeks until she says otherwise & then she gonna show me how to maintain them myself. I started my locs Jan 2 2019.
I'm three months in to my locks. I've haven't washed it yet but I've been spraying my hair with rose water and tea tree oil. I'm in the budding stage and I'm nevous on how often I should re-twist my hair. I don't really mind the frizz because I don't like for my scalp to show and I want thicker locs like yours. My hair stylist told me that I have very thick hair and she says that thinning won't be an issue with me so she tells me to come in every two weeks but I've been pushing it to once a month. I'm just kind of mixed up on which direction I should go. Do you have any helpful tips? I could send you a few pictures of my hair if that's helpful?
Hi Jerelle! 😊 Congratulations on your new loc journey! May I ask, why you haven’t washed your hair in three months? Was this recommended to you by your stylist? If so, that and the two week retwist recommendation are very alarming to me. My advice would be to wash your hair. Keeping your scalp and Locs cleaned are vital to a healthy hair/ loc journey. It doesn’t need to be excessive. You can find out what works for you. Maybe start out once a month, and a retwist once a month while you are still in the beginning stages. You may also like water rinses in between washes. Retwisting every two weeks may lead to your hair thinning over time. There is not enough new growth in two weeks for your hair to have to be retwisted. I have many videos that I hope can help you on your journey, and I will be putting up more content soon. Please let me know if you have any video request 😊. I hope this was helpful. ❤️
Great vid Queen!!!! Sometimes ppl think just because they go to a shop the person knows what they're doing....can't be afraid to ask questions, in the end it's your hair and you take all the risk....trying to find someone to go to down here though....wwas thinking i might get a professional retwist once in a while lol my problem is i don't trust ppl in my hair like that lol keep it up!!!!
I just fired both, my 1st & 2nd. I now maintain my own. The 1st used too much product on my starter, the second doesn't part clean enough, used a too on a couple love on my edges & started to sprayed my hair with a product I don't use. She knows that was wrong because I bring all my own products. I also had to wash my hair before my twist, it cost extra.
Don't wash for 5 months! Dirty hair locks faster!? No no no... After I had my hair backcombed my friend who did it who also has dreads made sure I knew about buildup, staying away from certain ingredients, and let me know I could wash after about two weeks, which I did. I'm a bit like you, I had maintenance with a crochet hook done one time... Then I got invited to join a natural dreadlocks group on Facebook and learned a lot. Haven't had maintenance done since... I have Caucasian straight hair, so yeah... I have loose hairs on top and it's full of bumps and zig zags but you know what? I like that more natural look. Looking back, if I had known more I would have used the wash and go/neglect/semi freeform method. I say semi freeform because I would be seperating sections and whatnot to give it a neater look, to me freeform you only wash and let them do all their own thing. The majority of people I come across love my hair, but I did have one guy ask me before what was going on up there, that I needed a re-twist. I explained to him what I was going for and that I never had them twisted to begin with, they were backcombed lol. He understood. I see this one guy around from time to time with these epic freeform dreads. We always talk for a few minutes and joke about how people spend so much money on having their dreads worked on. This other guy I know asked how my roots were so thick and I told him this and that and apparently, his loctitian had him coming in every week for a re-twist... So often that his roots started breaking and he ended up with a small bald spot. Another funny short story is... When I was wanting to get them started, I mentioned something to my sister in law and she said "oh! I could do them for you for free, it ain't nothing but twisting and some beeswax!" Needless to say I paid the 50 dollars to my friend who did her own to do them hahaha!
Some of your suggestions need specifics, especially for those just starting that will take you literally. For example, “wash your hair” should be “how to wash your locs when you do”. And “don’t use products” should be “what products when”. Lastly, stress everyone’s hair is different, grows at a different pace, different textures, etc. It really depends on finding a person that is willing to learn your hair.
I love my loc lady but the people i tried before her were crazy. I have a whole horror story from 1 lady and the other jus wanted my money. But ill jus talk abt the money hungry and misinformed lady. I had my locs started by damian walter and he does comb coils and the lady told me id have to comb out my locs after they had ALREADY started budding because she said only two strand twists loc. But of course she was willing to restart my locs for $100 more than what Damian charged 😒 She also told my that my locs were too small and im like you havent even asked me what size i wanted or know the texture of my loose natural hair to make that assessment i left her chair immediately and never came back.
I just started my locs.( Baby twist) and he used black gel 😩 also i asked him about sister locs he had no clue by that time i was under thw hair dryer and had paid my money. Never again. I want free forming locs but thats not what i got. He never informed me of the different types of Locs. I want your type your hair is sooooo beautiful thick Rich and healthy
Yup the girl who did mine locs used so much gel it was crunchy. When I washed it I was little squeezing what looked like pure eco styler gel out my hair.
Thank you. She won't wash my hair but loads it up with sea breeze. My scalp is burning. This gell stuff is think and my hair is very thick. Tells me I have to come for 4 weeks or else.
The only one I relate to is the every two weeks thing. She doesn’t always have me come in every two weeks sometimes she wants three or a month but usually I’m the on that wants to come in earlier because my hair is a straight curly type do to me being a mixed person. But she seems trust worthy, no products put in my hair or photos being taken, we both agreed we want my love to come in as natural as possible. She even rejected my crochet hook proposal because she said it damages hair, but idk I do kind of get a weird feeling about her. One time she said to me thanks for being my lab rat because she was trying something new when it comes to locking up, she also said I was three weeks ahead the second time I came in. My locs are coming out pretty good but sometimes I wonder if she is saying it’s all going to plan just to keep me coming back. The lowest I’ve paid so far is $20 because I came in and all she did was put a few back in that came out which was about 20+.
I feel like my locs are almost identical to yours lol the way they fall on your head, the thickness, even the way they bud and frizz lol idk I just think it's so crazy, but I love our locs
Just started my locks, the Loctician charged me $200 (for half a head, hair less than 4 inches). They used this “lock n” edge gel with extra hold. I tried to research this product. I was expecting moist coils. Mines were hard and dry-ish. They then barreled my little stringy locks and used thread to sew it down. I’m not sure how I feel. My parts are not even/consistently the same. I keep telling myself to trust the process with this being my 3rd set.
Okay, my current loctitian is certified and this last appt he didn’t seem to have the same enthusiasm as the first two times. However my last retwist he suggested I return this month for a wash so he could properly separate my roots. I sensed his impatience. I separated as much as I could but apparently not good enough. I did notice I have a few Locs that are a little thinner than I’d like at the base. I’ve been getting retwist only every 2-3 months. My last retwist was December 17th and I have an appt for March 17. By chance do you have a tutorial for separating roots? I kind of feel like my loctitian is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and semi freeforming is looking good right now.
I go to a hairdresser who thinks she is going to start my locs but I am having second thoughts. I asked her what she plans on locing my hair with she couldn't tell me. She said she makes her own products. Everytime I ask her about my hair she never gives a clear answer. I seen her retwist but never start them which makes me very nervous. She did mention to palm rolling which is fine but she's gets frustrated. She showed me pictures of her daughter hair but it wasn't neat. Anyways I am currently growing out my perm once that is done I'm gone.
Hey I love your locs first off ! And secondly I started locing in late may , I washed it once since but they unraveled a lot after washing . Also my loctician doesn't use a over the head dryer after retwisting , she just blow dries it ... is this something that will prevent the locing and cause me to go back quicker or not necessarily?
Carvin Fletcher Hey, congratulations on your loc journey. I'm sorry to hear about the wax. You definitely don't want to use wax, as it will cause build up. To better answer your question, are you stating that you've only had your locs for 3 days?
Shalom. Your locs are beautiful. I just started my loc journey this month on the 18 th of December 2018. I am Hebrew and I keep my hair covered when I’m out of the house. But when I am home I uncover my hair. My locs are hanging in there. I only use satin caps. Have any tips for me to keep my locs locked. Tu for the video. Shalom
Can you do a video on your thoughts about loc extensions. I really have been wanting love for a long time and I’ve gotten temporary faux ones a few times but now I want permanent locks, but my hair is not the length I would like them (not even half the length lol) so I was thinking of extensions and cutting as I go. What are your thoughts on loc extensions?? 😊
Thank you for tips. Quick question: what is the etiquette for having Loctician coloring hair. Do I take color product to them or do they get it? If I get it, shouting request an increase in fee?
Asia DeShay It's not disrespectful to inquire about services being performed on your hair. Just be polite and respectful, but if you discover they don't know what they are doing...don't let them touch your locs.
the girl that retwist my hair i told her i was semi free forming and i dnt retwist often then she was like u should retwist every two or three weeks me knowing her information is to false i told her my locs was thin around the edge and she retwisted tight think ill stick to retwisting my own locs i dnt want my locs to fall i will never do salon again only u know your hait you know
It's imperative to do research . If you don't feel comfortable don't go back to that person.
Life Undocumented So true!
Your locs are just breathtaking!
They really are though. I'm in love 😍😍
I didn't go to a loctician...I had my mom do it...she didn't know wat she was doing or nothin bout dreads and I love them...I think they all different sizes but my momma did them and they look perfect to me so I love them...and we both learn how to take care of my hair together
Right my mom is no professional but I love my hair even more knowing that she went out her way to learn get better and continue to put love into my hair i don’t want anyone else but her touching mine they’re both our babies
Same. I've had 3 sets of locs so far and mom has started them all. Its like a bonding thing for us.
my mom did my locs as well & i love them too💞 so i agree w. your comment ☺️
I have been a loctician for 17 years and I can't tell you the amount of clients that come to me with damaged thinning locs, nasty build up and incorrect information
So many people are out there without knowledge taking folks money and damaging their locs.
Catherina Queen Thank you for being an informed loctitian!
Are you in the central Pennsylvania area?
I stopped doing locs because of how awful the market has become. I can no longer deal with people who are misinformed about the proper process. You spend so much time retraining the thinking of the abused clients than doing the hair service.
Yeah. I know. I was one of those clients who received misinformation for YEARS through about 5 or 6 sets of locs. I just had to educate myself. I probably could have had locs down to my feet by now (not that I'd ever grow them that long) had I not had to cut my locs off so many times and start over due to the miseducation and greediness of stylists I've patronized over the last 16yrs.
Same here dear !
I found out everything I needed to know like 2 days before I twisted my own hair..I'm glad
Latonij Frazier Yay!! So glad this was helpful 😊
Latonij Frazier Im going to try to do mine. What product did you use?
Yess, just twisted my hair today 👏🏾
I had to switch locticians because the one who started my locs didn’t want to shampoo my hair. I have seborrheic dermatitis and she sent me home with flakes twisted into my locs. I’m now 15 weeks into my journey and my scalp is healthy because my new loctician actually gets in there to cleanse my scalp.
I am a Loc Stylist. ♡
I am Very Happy I Passed the Tests. :)
I Agree with Everything you Said.
Healthy Locs are My Main Priority for My Clients and I.
Great Video...
I'm 9 and I really want dreadlocks so my mom is thinking about it
Gamingwith ANGEL do You have dreadlocks now?
@@Relax_Rombey ong💀
@@Relax_Rombey 😯📸
your locs are so thick and gorgeous!!!!
whatsUPlocs Thank you beautiful!
Did ure locks start it thick
First time I got my hair coiled, I didn't educate myself. I went to an African Hair Braiding shop and the lady used black gel. I realized after 1 week that my hair felt 'gummy.' I washed that mess out and found a Loctician. It's been all good from there. 5 months later and I have tremendous growth
My current situation 😬
I want to an African braiding salon too and let’s just say it was not a good experience
Z'Novia Caldwell did they snatch your edges? Cause chileee 😔😖 they brutal
I’m just curious why you chose them from the beginning. The reason I ask is because I hear the horror stories and I never knew that even did locs.
YESSSSS! I washed it out in 1 week. I hate brown gel.
This video is very helpful and important! A hairstylist started my locs and also told me not to wash my hair for about 3 months to help it loc' up. Then I had to go to another person and I found her by faith. She put me in check, she said you need to wash your hair hahahahhaha. I'm still with her till this day. She is actually a great loctician and this video proves it.
One loctitian I know uses her own products that she mixes. Won't tell what's in them, apparently she is "protecting her formula". Needless to say, she didn't get in my hair. I prefer to maintain my own locs.
PalmettoPrincess You did right! If someone is using something on you they have a right to inform you of the ingredients they are using. You could be allergic or they could be using something completely absurd.
PalmettoPrincess is that even legal? Glad you decided to leave.
I have no idea. All I know is it didn't sound right to me!
That's crazy....what if you had an allergy to her "secret sauce"???? Very irresponsible of that loctitian....
I currently live overseas and I cut my locs when I moved but soon after while I was on vacation in the states, my loctician re started them. I've been maintaining them myself for the past 7 months and I'll go back to her during the Xmas holidays. She is awesome. She is about the health of locs, and educating clients about locs. Her locs are 15 yrs old and she is an awesome representation of her business as well as her clients. No walk ins. Consultations are a must. Great video!
I washed my hair every 2 weeks when I started my locs and I retwisted each time I washed to facilitate the locing process. Now I am 19 months loc'd and I only retwist every 3-4 months.
Cherrell Mishelle ....... How many months in were you before you stopped the 2 week re twisting? I'm 3 months in and do the same 2 week routine. Some areas are locing, some aren't.
Julia White that happens in the beginning..all your hair will eventually loc. In the beginning the back of my head didn't loc for awhile
Tiara Cunningham ...... Okay, I see. Thank you!
I use the crochet method 6yrs in. Every 2 weeks is still the regime for me. Do you wear your hair wrapped a lot?
Great tips! There is so much misinformation out there on how to maintain locs even within the black hair community. I constantly have people ask if I can wash my hair and who have no clue what the difference between manicured locs and semi free form or free form locs are. I tell them most locs are probably cleaner than their hair and they cant believe it lol.
My loctician told me that she needed to wash my hair until it loced. Then she said i could wash it on my own. Never been told that starter locs could not be washed.
My loctician said that too. I just started my journey with comb coils so I guess she doesn’t want them to uncoil. But I’m thinking of getting a stocking cap so maintain the coils
I was told not to wash mine when I first started mine smh
Same my loctician said not to wash until it’s locked
@@leondreamcast they say that because it’s easier on them to retwist it if it’s still together smh, but what about the client!?!
I just started my locs 2 days ago and the young lady who did them said she's been doing locs for 10+ years. I followed her Instagram and her work looked good. When I went to get mines done she used some type of blue gel for my coils and continuously sprayed my hair with this super holding spray. My coils feel extremely hard and I can even see the build up already happening from whatever gel and spray she used. There are little white flakes starting too. I'm really sad about this but most likely I will have to wash my hair and start over again because I'm not satisfied at all and I want to start off right.
Naylan Wow, I am SO sorry that this happened to you! There are people who have years of "experience" on their resume, but aren't qualified. Unfortunately some people have been messing up people's heads for years. I've seen individuals with decades of buildup in their locs. I'm so glad you are informed and won't be going back. Give your hair a deep wash and cleanse and start over the right way😊.
Not good at all.
That’s sad to hear. There are a lot of people like this. One lady was quoting me £2500 for starter locs. Ridiculous. I started them myself with two strand twists.
So did u end up cutting them or did u stick with em id love to know
I’m so tired of rude loctitians! That’s all I’ve been meeting and I really want to start my loc journey. They either want to charge a high price, had bad work, and weren’t willing to share with me information about the process before I come in, and someone told me my hair is too long to start my locs with comb coils and it’s about the length your hair was when you started with your first set. I’m so discouraged. I live in Michigan and it’s hard finding someone here that can do good locs and have good service. I really don’t want to start with two strands but I’ll start them myself if I have to
This info is great! I have Sisterlocks and I started with a trainee. I was her second client and although I did see her first client's hair journey while with her, I personally decided to maintain my own locs plus I stopped using the Sisterlocks products on my hair for several reasons.
1) My trainee takes a long time. It took her 62 hours to establish my locs and 15 hours to retighten them. I started braidlocs on my daughter and maintain them with interlocking so I figured if it took that long, I can do them myself and follow up 2x a year with another consultant to make sure everything is going smoothly.
2) My trainee has traditional locs and were trying to use methods like backcoming and twisting the ones that she couldn't interlock during the maintanence as my hair is frizzy and she wants my ends to seal up (I love my frizzy ends and told her I don't mind my ends as it gives my locs body and fullness...which I like) she insisted that backcoming Sisterlocks will a method she wants to use on all of her clients during maintanence. Although there is talk about backcoming during the establishment that I've seen during my research...there wasn't anything referring to that as a maintanence method. Actually, I only saw one other person mentioning their consultant doing that and the responses where saying she should look for someone else as that's not something that's typically done.
3) Although she probably never seen the ingredients in some of the Sisterlocks products, one particular shampoo I used (the dandruff shampoo that she recommended me to purchase) has Beeswax in it. Once I mentioned it was in there, she said "Well they made Beeswax for a reason so it's good for something". The reason I looked at the list waa because after using it, my scalp felt like it was on fire so I wanted to see what was in there. I simply trusted it because it was a "Sisterlocks product" but it had several ingredients I heard shouldn't be used in locs. Plus, before doing braidlocks on my daughter's head, I once started hers with Beeswax and not only was it sticky, it made her head itch.
4) During the 15 hour retightening, my trainee was more concerned about ensuring every loc ended on the same rotation, but failed to understand that was hurting my head. After she was done some of my locs felt like it does after getting fresh braids to the point i had to just put my hair under water. I ended up with a scab in the front so I know to stop before it gets tight when I do them.
I just figured it will be best to maintain my hair and continue to maintain my daughter's hair. I rather that we have healthy hair than it falling out. Not saying every loctition is bad, but I don't want to have to keep running from person to person to maintain our heads. Plus, it's good to know how to do your own hair every now and then.
Honey and eggs? In your hair? LoL We're making locs not a cake 😊
its a great treatment for loose hair but definitely not locs
My locs were started w/ gel && that’s the only time she’s ever used it. She told me that she used the gel to “set them” and she’d never use it again && she hasn’t. She uses oil to retwist my hair now, so I don’t totally agree w/ number 1, but everything else I completely agree w/. Great video. 👍🏾
FIVE MONTHS? OH naw playa. LOL!
EverydayWithRaye 😂😂😂 exactly!! Where they do that at?! 😩😂
Believe it or not the lady who did my hair told me not to wash my hair for four months . Smh I didn’t listen to her
I have psoriasis so that’s a hell to the naw naw
Tarasha Lloyd my scalp a mess after a week absolutely NAWT
I couldn’t go past a week and a half
This Queen knows what she's talking about definitely, I've been researching locks for years and years I'm on my second Journey now locks love water, the beginning stages of my locks is when I did the most maintenance the less product the better the biggest thing is keeping locks moisturized And stress-free no tension on them locks are beautiful
Dirty hair locks faster??? Girl I would have ran for the hills!!!
Man, my loctician told me to wait for 9 MONTHS!!! I was like I'm not about to be around here funky and nasty.
Warnings 1 - 5, in one way or another have been my experiences thus far in my lotician experience. I recommend dropping in to see what their other clients look like, as well as ask questions about every product and reasons behind their methods. *Attitude, customer service and clear communication are imperative keys to selecting a quality loc maintainer. xo.
I had a stylist use some type of custard like stuff on my locs. It only held my hair for 1 hour. The next time I went to her I told her I can only use water base products in my hair to hold the twist. She gave me some BS excuse about why she dont use it. Plus she kept turning all the hair care products she was using around so you couldn't see the brand and or the stuff she is using. Needless to say I don't go to her no more.
Girl I told my natural hairstylist I wanted to get locs and she said nah your hair is too short, wait a couple months. And she said once you do get it loced, you can't wash it for a month. That was the last time I sat in her chair lol. Smh!
Wen i got mine started my hair was really short so he said not to get it wet or wash it. After 2 months he washed it himself. And i went to him about every 3 weeks to a month. And it has grown alot. Bt since i moved it has stopped growing.
If your hair is dried and your loctitian says they prefer to interlock your hair when it's dry ...RUNNNN
Not true
I am thinking about getting locks. I'm currently looking for a loctician. Thanks for the tips!!
They all say to no wash your hair. i was miserable!!! my second set i said forget them im doing it on my own. SELF CARE IS TRUUULLY THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE MOST LOCTICIANS AREN'T KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THEIR CRAFT!
Yooooo I just came from one of your videos when you were 7 months in. Your locs are soooooooo Beautiful 😍😍😍 they look so healthy too.. yep I'm listening to you from here on out. Started my locs 1/9/19
Thank you! Congratulations on the start of your new journey! Peace and blessings! ✨
I absolutely love your locs. This video was very informative, thanks for the tips
Not washing your hair for the sake of preserving hair!?! Pssh! 😏
"You wanna condition your locs with egg🍳"😂
Trouble is, you'll not know until you've been going a good while and some hairdressers dislike being asked the name and ingredients of products they're about to slap on YOUR head.
My most recent appointment was last week. The whole thing took above 4 hours, door to door and I ended up unpinning the updo the same evening.
I usually only have a wash and relock. This time I also had a ''detox'' which is basically bicarbonate of soda on my scalp for 25-30 mins.
I'd been told the cost would be double the normal bill. However for some unknown reason, I was charged double plus an extra ten. I didn't quibble. My change was handed to me in small notes, I think the owner was expecting the usual tip but I stuffed it in my wallet really fast.
Oh and the hair looked no better for having had a detox. In fact, the lint showed up even more. The only positive thing is the actual relock.
I really love your hair . I’m considering doing locks on my hair and I’m getting so much information from your channel.
Thank you and God bless you.
My first loctician passed the test😂😂😂. I started suspecting she was only after the money and not my hair growth. Told me not to wash my hair and had me come in every two weeks.
If your starter locs are "instant locked" then you can wash em after 2 weeks. If they're "coils or 2strand twists" then i would not recommend you wash em after 2 weeks, you'll end up back in a fro and the money you spent will all be just a waste. (Coming from someone who has had long dreads 3 times and currently has dreads now. Speaking from Experience)
2&4 Was Me and maybe 5. I just asked you a question about this very thing in another video a second ago. I asked questions and things like that, and believed her, my loctician, based on her work, but at the same time, I guess I just Trusted her to easily, Be-lieving that she would do right by me. Wasn't very talkative and didn't bring up anything until the LAST MINUTE, not even about my brownish-gold colored flaked hair that was supposed to be BLACK, my first 6 months. She actually told me to go see a dermatologist because of all of the dandruff! But at least NOW, I KNOW BETTER!!!!! Thanks 😚Nirvana! 😊
I am so glad i stumbled across you on here!!! You are beautiful and so are your locs. They are the exact size ive wanted to show my loctician at my consultation in two days. Def good points in this video. She started my mothers locs and definitely does not fit the margin for these errors! Thanks for the tips! Wish me luck on my journey😁😁😁🙏
I have been growing my locs for 11 years and I love them. Through my journey I have not found a loctician that cared about the health of my locs. So I have use atleast 7 or 8 and I haven't found the right loctician!! This past year I started with this new person and now 12 months later I noticed my hair was looking thinner. I really didn't know for sure so when I went for my maintenance before my loctician started on my hair I told her I think my hair is thinning. She ask where and I pointed to the top of my head. I really was not sure all I know my hair looked thinner. She never said a word about it she shampoo and latched like normal. Two days later I notice a lot of my locs were as thin as three pieces of thread. I'm devastated!! My beautiful locs of 11 years are ruined. How did she not see it??? It was so gradual I didn't even see it happening until it was to late. Can I sue her for neglect?
Thankfully I have 4C hair, I washed my hair every Monday and Friday from the start and still do to this day during the Florida summer months and once per week during the winter and I retwist once or twice a month. I just separate my hair after each wash to maintain my parts. Their is no way I would go without washing my hair to maintain a hair style. For me personally that would be unacceptable. Washing my hair frequently encourages tangles which results in my locks reaching maturity sooner. P.S. your locks are lovely
@melody I agree with your routine. I live in Alabama. Twice a week wash is a must to avoid the mustys! My hair is thick and washing has sped up the locking process and keeps my hair soft.
Might want to spread out those retwists to avoid traction alopecia
The last time I went to get mine started the chick was fast talking me so bad!!!!! The next day my hair was just full of dried white product in my hair. Falling like snow. She tried to convince me it was normal. And to wear a thick headband of I was uncomfortable. Wasted time and money. And she was a licensed cosmetologist. I was like... dang
So true I'm starting my loc journey in a few days on my birthday I've been following your channel I'm so happy I came across thanks for the info
Yeah i washed my hair after 2 weeks then every week after that. Then retwist every month sometimes longer time period between retwists. Also lucky for me my the person who does my hair i had first hand how good it would look as all her children had locks so i was quite pleased.
Helpful info. I am looking for someone in my area now to start my locs. About to pop quiz her now!
Chanel Anderson haha! That's right Chanel! Ask away!😊
I wish I would’ve found your videos before I went to my first loctician! I informed my loctician that the product they used (Jamaican Mango & Lime) would cause a lot of build up in my hair. She was completely dismissive and told me that it’s one of the best products to use. Fast forward 3 weeks later and my hair had so much build up that I had to get a loc repair!
New to the channel & you're hair is gorgeous💕I luv my loc technician she specializes in natural hair. I started going to her in Aug just getting natural styles with updo protective styles. From Aug to now I have a great length. She cut all the perm hair out. She told me to come to her every 4 weeks until she says otherwise & then she gonna show me how to maintain them myself. I started my locs Jan 2 2019.
Thank you! Congratulations on your new journey!! So excited for you!
I'm three months in to my locks. I've haven't washed it yet but I've been spraying my hair with rose water and tea tree oil. I'm in the budding stage and I'm nevous on how often I should re-twist my hair. I don't really mind the frizz because I don't like for my scalp to show and I want thicker locs like yours. My hair stylist told me that I have very thick hair and she says that thinning won't be an issue with me so she tells me to come in every two weeks but I've been pushing it to once a month. I'm just kind of mixed up on which direction I should go. Do you have any helpful tips? I could send you a few pictures of my hair if that's helpful?
Hi Jerelle! 😊 Congratulations on your new loc journey!
May I ask, why you haven’t washed your hair in three months?
Was this recommended to you by your stylist? If so, that and the two week retwist recommendation are very alarming to me.
My advice would be to wash your hair. Keeping your scalp and Locs cleaned are vital to a healthy hair/ loc journey. It doesn’t need to be excessive. You can find out what works for you. Maybe start out once a month, and a retwist once a month while you are still in the beginning stages. You may also like water rinses in between washes.
Retwisting every two weeks may lead to your hair thinning over time. There is not enough new growth in two weeks for your hair to have to be retwisted. I have many videos that I hope can help you on your journey, and I will be putting up more content soon. Please let me know if you have any video request 😊. I hope this was helpful.
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Great vid Queen!!!! Sometimes ppl think just because they go to a shop the person knows what they're doing....can't be afraid to ask questions, in the end it's your hair and you take all the risk....trying to find someone to go to down here though....wwas thinking i might get a professional retwist once in a while lol my problem is i don't trust ppl in my hair like that lol keep it up!!!!
Great information lovely Sister your locs looks great i does my locs at home most of the times. Nothing but the truth here I agree 100%
You are so beautiful!! I love your videos ❤️
Hey sisy!!! Thank you for this video, quite informative......
Your locks are gorgeous. Did you freeform your locks?
I used water to start mine
Thank you for this information, more vids like this are needed on RUclips...😊
Erica Johnson Yay! I'm so glad it was informative 😊. Thank you for the feedback 😊.
I just fired both, my 1st & 2nd. I now maintain my own. The 1st used too much product on my starter, the second doesn't part clean enough, used a too on a couple love on my edges & started to sprayed my hair with a product I don't use. She knows that was wrong because I bring all my own products. I also had to wash my hair before my twist, it cost extra.
Great update. Locs looking nice as usual 😘
I really want locs but I need to get my research and knowledge first thanks for sharing.
Don't wash for 5 months! Dirty hair locks faster!?
No no no... After I had my hair backcombed my friend who did it who also has dreads made sure I knew about buildup, staying away from certain ingredients, and let me know I could wash after about two weeks, which I did. I'm a bit like you, I had maintenance with a crochet hook done one time... Then I got invited to join a natural dreadlocks group on Facebook and learned a lot. Haven't had maintenance done since... I have Caucasian straight hair, so yeah... I have loose hairs on top and it's full of bumps and zig zags but you know what? I like that more natural look. Looking back, if I had known more I would have used the wash and go/neglect/semi freeform method. I say semi freeform because I would be seperating sections and whatnot to give it a neater look, to me freeform you only wash and let them do all their own thing.
The majority of people I come across love my hair, but I did have one guy ask me before what was going on up there, that I needed a re-twist. I explained to him what I was going for and that I never had them twisted to begin with, they were backcombed lol. He understood. I see this one guy around from time to time with these epic freeform dreads. We always talk for a few minutes and joke about how people spend so much money on having their dreads worked on. This other guy I know asked how my roots were so thick and I told him this and that and apparently, his loctitian had him coming in every week for a re-twist... So often that his roots started breaking and he ended up with a small bald spot.
Another funny short story is... When I was wanting to get them started, I mentioned something to my sister in law and she said "oh! I could do them for you for free, it ain't nothing but twisting and some beeswax!" Needless to say I paid the 50 dollars to my friend who did her own to do them hahaha!
If I ever go to get ANY style done to my hair and they pull out brown gel… I’m gathering my things and GOING!! 😂😭
Some of your suggestions need specifics, especially for those just starting that will take you literally. For example, “wash your hair” should be “how to wash your locs when you do”. And “don’t use products” should be “what products when”. Lastly, stress everyone’s hair is different, grows at a different pace, different textures, etc. It really depends on finding a person that is willing to learn your hair.
You are amazing!
ENC Works Aww, thank you gorgeous 🤗
5 months, lawd....mine told me 3 months!! I already purchased my products to do it myself.
I love my loc lady but the people i tried before her were crazy. I have a whole horror story from 1 lady and the other jus wanted my money. But ill jus talk abt the money hungry and misinformed lady. I had my locs started by damian walter and he does comb coils and the lady told me id have to comb out my locs after they had ALREADY started budding because she said only two strand twists loc. But of course she was willing to restart my locs for $100 more than what Damian charged 😒 She also told my that my locs were too small and im like you havent even asked me what size i wanted or know the texture of my loose natural hair to make that assessment i left her chair immediately and never came back.
in2theflame15 I wouldn't mind Damian retwisting my locs.
If only I could get to Damian!! He's my favorite loctician. .very informative and funny
oops...Very informative. I have been a loctician for about 15 years. I have experienced all this..lol
I just started my locs.( Baby twist) and he used black gel 😩 also i asked him about sister locs he had no clue by that time i was under thw hair dryer and had paid my money. Never again. I want free forming locs but thats not what i got. He never informed me of the different types of Locs. I want your type your hair is sooooo beautiful thick Rich and healthy
Yup the girl who did mine locs used so much gel it was crunchy. When I washed it I was little squeezing what looked like pure eco styler gel out my hair.
Thank you. She won't wash my hair but loads it up with sea breeze. My scalp is burning. This gell stuff is think and my hair is very thick. Tells me I have to come for 4 weeks or else.
The only one I relate to is the every two weeks thing. She doesn’t always have me come in every two weeks sometimes she wants three or a month but usually I’m the on that wants to come in earlier because my hair is a straight curly type do to me being a mixed person. But she seems trust worthy, no products put in my hair or photos being taken, we both agreed we want my love to come in as natural as possible. She even rejected my crochet hook proposal because she said it damages hair, but idk I do kind of get a weird feeling about her. One time she said to me thanks for being my lab rat because she was trying something new when it comes to locking up, she also said I was three weeks ahead the second time I came in. My locs are coming out pretty good but sometimes I wonder if she is saying it’s all going to plan just to keep me coming back. The lowest I’ve paid so far is $20 because I came in and all she did was put a few back in that came out which was about 20+.
YES EMPRESS. U R SO BEAUTIFUL. LUV DI LOCS.
KILAMANJARO Thank you so much!
I feel like my locs are almost identical to yours lol the way they fall on your head, the thickness, even the way they bud and frizz lol idk I just think it's so crazy, but I love our locs
the part about the bees wax is not true. Bee wax is the only things that holds my hair my hair is almost straight.
Just started my locks, the Loctician charged me $200 (for half a head, hair less than 4 inches). They used this “lock n” edge gel with extra hold. I tried to research this product. I was expecting moist coils. Mines were hard and dry-ish. They then barreled my little stringy locks and used thread to sew it down. I’m not sure how I feel. My parts are not even/consistently the same. I keep telling myself to trust the process with this being my 3rd set.
You are quite informative, thank you
They told me 2weeks ....but 5 months!?!?!?!?! Wtf😂😂😂💀
Very informative and dead on
Geneva Armstrong Thank you. Glad it was helpful 😊.
You have really great hair
dain Nia Thank you!
I for sure had a terrible loctition.. fired her tho! And did my own braidlocs 💁🏽 will keep up with my own hair for now on
Have you ever used rose water to keep your locs moisturized?
Tiffany D. No, I haven’t.
When I first got locs, my loctician told me to come back in 5 months....
Please tell me where you got your locks done Hope it’s in Cali
Okay, my current loctitian is certified and this last appt he didn’t seem to have the same enthusiasm as the first two times. However my last retwist he suggested I return this month for a wash so he could properly separate my roots. I sensed his impatience. I separated as much as I could but apparently not good enough. I did notice I have a few Locs that are a little thinner than I’d like at the base. I’ve been getting retwist only every 2-3 months. My last retwist was December 17th and I have an appt for March 17. By chance do you have a tutorial for separating roots? I kind of feel like my loctitian is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and semi freeforming is looking good right now.
I go to a hairdresser who thinks she is going to start my locs but I am having second thoughts. I asked her what she plans on locing my hair with she couldn't tell me. She said she makes her own products. Everytime I ask her about my hair she never gives a clear answer. I seen her retwist but never start them which makes me very nervous. She did mention to palm rolling which is fine but she's gets frustrated. She showed me pictures of her daughter hair but it wasn't neat. Anyways I am currently growing out my perm once that is done I'm gone.
Nice locs!
Thank you!
I screamed when she said egg lmaoooo
Hey I love your locs first off ! And secondly I started locing in late may , I washed it once since but they unraveled a lot after washing . Also my loctician doesn't use a over the head dryer after retwisting , she just blow dries it ... is this something that will prevent the locing and cause me to go back quicker or not necessarily?
had to leave my loctitian for gel usage. starting my own retwist with gel
I’ve started with beeswax what am I suppose to be using and can I detox them when they are locked or can I detox now locks haven’t locked 3rd day
Carvin Fletcher Hey, congratulations on your loc journey. I'm sorry to hear about the wax. You definitely don't want to use wax, as it will cause build up. To better answer your question, are you stating that you've only had your locs for 3 days?
Can you do a video on washing locs please :)
Shalom. Your locs are beautiful. I just started my loc journey this month on the 18 th of December 2018. I am Hebrew and I keep my hair covered when I’m out of the house. But when I am home I uncover my hair. My locs are hanging in there. I only use satin caps. Have any tips for me to keep my locs locked. Tu for the video. Shalom
Can you do a video on your thoughts about loc extensions. I really have been wanting love for a long time and I’ve gotten temporary faux ones a few times but now I want permanent locks, but my hair is not the length I would like them (not even half the length lol) so I was thinking of extensions and cutting as I go. What are your thoughts on loc extensions?? 😊
Thank you for tips. Quick question: what is the etiquette for having Loctician coloring hair. Do I take color product to them or do they get it? If I get it, shouting request an increase in fee?
What happens when you re a teenager and doing this will nake you seem disrespectful to the adults?
Asia DeShay It's not disrespectful to inquire about services being performed on your hair. Just be polite and respectful, but if you discover they don't know what they are doing...don't let them touch your locs.
Natural Nirvana I'll try that, I just hope I don't cause trouble.
Does it matter what type of hair texture you have when it comes to how long you should wait to wash starter locs?
Hey hun! I was wondering have you ever interlocked your locs?
the girl that retwist my hair i told her i was semi free forming and i dnt retwist often then she was like u should retwist every two or three weeks me knowing her information is to false i told her my locs was thin around the edge and she retwisted tight think ill stick to retwisting my own locs i dnt want my locs to fall i will never do salon again only u know your hait you know
Is eco-styler bad to start locs? She also used spritz afterwards and put me under the dryer..
Ashanti Bell sounds awful 😖 no gel needed I started my locs with nothing but a two strand twist keep it simple no gel needed
I heard mine talk bad about me over the phone and i got a nasty vibe from everyone working in the shop
Great tips!!!