Forza Motorsport is a DISASTER...

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

Комментарии • 5 тыс.

  • @Shinyodd
    @Shinyodd  Год назад +1759

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  • @SGR_Blackout
    @SGR_Blackout Год назад +6076

    One funny thing about the AI at the highest difficulty is that once you actually overtake them, they just give up - they forget how to drive and end up crashing/or taking unusual lines to lose time so it makes the overtake feel way less satisfying/rewarding.

    • @EpicTyphlosionTV
      @EpicTyphlosionTV Год назад +368

      The worst part is, having played the crap out of FH4, I can assure you the AI is similar. Same with 5, but to a bigger degree. They somehow managed to make their AI even worse than before not once, but twice

    • @d00msday77
      @d00msday77 Год назад +8

      Yep that's what I was seeing 😂

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper Год назад +141

      "He is intimidating me" - the AI, probably.

    • @sinaalami4148
      @sinaalami4148 Год назад +257

      That's how it's been since FH4. Either you overtake in the first minute of the race or you can't catch up to them ever.

    • @EpicTyphlosionTV
      @EpicTyphlosionTV Год назад +38

      @@sinaalami4148 I knew I wasn't hallucinating lol

  • @Ermz
    @Ermz Год назад +639

    When your school project is due in 6 years, but you rush it all the night before anyway. That's Forza Motorsport.

  • @falcongamer58
    @falcongamer58 Год назад +2762

    Halo Infinite and Forza Motorsport have some things in common:
    -Built from the ground up
    -6 years of development +delays
    --Washed out visuals
    -Lacking features and content at launch
    -No split screen
    -Broken functionalities
    -"platform for the next 10 years"

    • @vanilladilfshake
      @vanilladilfshake Год назад +173

      it hurts how accurate this is; especially bc i was looking forward to both the games 😢

    • @kinger41
      @kinger41 Год назад +83

      I hate how true this is.

    • @XBOXisWeakAF
      @XBOXisWeakAF Год назад +18

      thi games cant compare with Motorfest now lol

    • @Jigglypaws
      @Jigglypaws Год назад +41

      @@XBOXisWeakAFthe next Horizon still might but I don’t wanna have my hopes up lol

    • @christiantucker-allen7264
      @christiantucker-allen7264 Год назад +15

      N-no split screen?

  • @jordanb.6822
    @jordanb.6822 6 месяцев назад +97

    It still pisses me off how this game won racing game of the year

    • @thereallystoopidguy1449
      @thereallystoopidguy1449 6 месяцев назад +4

      i cant fucking believe hot wheels lost over this pile of ass

    • @DerpOKat21
      @DerpOKat21 5 месяцев назад +14

      The Crew Motorfest got robbed of that award

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 3 месяца назад +9

      @@DerpOKat21motor fest is shit too

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 3 месяца назад +2

      @@CrazyPanda688not as bad as this in any way

    • @Fuck_handles
      @Fuck_handles 3 месяца назад

      As much as I love witcher 3, it shows that game awards are more bs than Oscars

  • @GribbisGibman
    @GribbisGibman Год назад +572

    A lot of devs can't tell the difference between useless time sinks and progression. We should spend time on the game because we want to, not because we have to.

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +46

      Well said. I am tired of game devs not respecting the limited time I have to play video games, it's become common with any live services title.

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad Год назад +5

      @@jjay350 no one is pointing a gun to your head. If you don't want to spend the time playing games just, i dunno........don't.

    • @genmeriphoton7655
      @genmeriphoton7655 Год назад +30

      ​@@jonnie2bad
      Well. Let's hope the sales during FM2023's launch speaks for itself, then.

    • @kdogg7882
      @kdogg7882 Год назад +1

      Hey thought forzathon was a good idea and forced seasons in horizon

    • @CrunchyTire
      @CrunchyTire Год назад +1

      I havent even got to experience the crappy progression system because it runs so bad on my Intel/Nvidia desktop. I have an all AMD laptop that Im going to try on but dang Im disappointed and I didn't even buy it. I grew up with forza series and really want to play it.

  • @MisuneDate
    @MisuneDate Год назад +2903

    Imagine making a AAA game bad enough to make shinyodd return.

    • @justaorg5425
      @justaorg5425 Год назад +13

      XD

    • @vika0194
      @vika0194 Год назад +40

      Forza only made 1-2 good games. The rest were forced and unnecessary.

    • @igotnoodlesgold9193
      @igotnoodlesgold9193 Год назад +81

      b-b-b-but.... its built from the ground up how could it be bad 😱

    • @HammySigvard
      @HammySigvard Год назад +17

      @@vika0194Finding 20% of the franchise good according to you make me wonder if you’re really a Forza fan.

    • @AnekoF90
      @AnekoF90 Год назад +28

      ​@HammySigvard he is, but he also ain't wrong. What Forza games are really worth spending time playing? FM4, maybe FM5/6, FH1, FH2, FH3. Can't say anything else besides those tbh.

  • @TheHectic0ne
    @TheHectic0ne Год назад +338

    I really am sick and tired of big game devs that have insane budgets just releasing absolute shite.

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад +14

      It’s cuz Dan Greenawalt isn’t the developer anymore. EVERY single Forza game since 2005 has been with Dan Greenawalt since the beginning and this is the first crappy Forza to come out without Tag in multiplayer and lots of other things.

    • @CrispyGFX
      @CrispyGFX Год назад +13

      People keep buying it. If there wasn't any money in it, it wouldn't keep happening.

    • @slothorne8222
      @slothorne8222 Год назад +2

      @@CrispyGFXtbf forza games haven’t really been now until this one, most others have been decent-great. At least Horizons

    • @slothorne8222
      @slothorne8222 Год назад

      been bad*

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad Год назад +7

      stop buying them then

  • @dla_915
    @dla_915 11 месяцев назад +305

    How to fix a game: don’t buy it, the bottom line to these companies is ALL that matters.

    • @norgenio3181
      @norgenio3181 11 месяцев назад

      Si funcionó en gt7, puede este remediarlo

    • @VexxedSR
      @VexxedSR 11 месяцев назад

      Why would anyone buy Forza when it's available for pretty much free using game pass? I buy 1 month game pass codes for around $2 a pop from key sellers.

    • @yusufffff
      @yusufffff 10 месяцев назад +8

      lol that's why they're releasing these games on game pass, just so they can brag about the total amount of people that played the game. I'm sure these games aren't even able to turn a profit

    • @__-so2jp
      @__-so2jp 6 месяцев назад +1

      All we can do is to vote with our wallets and don’t buy it fr

    • @AlanFormula12022
      @AlanFormula12022 2 месяца назад

      NBA LIVE also.

  • @gt0783
    @gt0783 Год назад +618

    Finally someone who’s invested in the series and knows what they are talking about gives it a fair critique. All points are absolutely true and valid, it’s a baffling and incredibly disappointing game. I’ve played every Forza game at launch, except for 5, and this is easily the biggest let down in the entire franchise.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад +17

      FM8 lost 355 important game features.

    • @SSR_RedDevil
      @SSR_RedDevil Год назад +10

      @@purwantiallan5089 does that include the 30+ tracks that have also been forgotten?

    • @nolangeorge9374
      @nolangeorge9374 Год назад +6

      You’re telling me you have seen these glitches on your play through of the game? How come out of all the videos I’ve seen of this game NOT ONE has show any glitches? This guy is lying and for what? It’s disgraceful!

    • @SSR_RedDevil
      @SSR_RedDevil Год назад

      @@nolangeorge9374 get your eyes tested. The render distance alone, is appalling.

    • @therickestrickthereis36
      @therickestrickthereis36 Год назад

      @@nolangeorge9374 bro you can literally download it if you have xbox gamepass for 10 bucks. I'll even give you a free trial gamepass if you reply so you can see how garbage this game is. 10700 3080 and it looks "meh" and has tons of graphical glitches. Also the AI is terrible and will make you want to quit after the first race if you have played a decent racing game in your life. They need to patch it. I miss NFS shift 2 even with it's faults.

  • @spoobledorp
    @spoobledorp Год назад +349

    we were promised community-building features and yet...no clubs like the old days, no searchable lobbies, and no creative hubs whatsoever, wtf is T10 doing? features like this made the community thrive in FM4's time.

    • @AnekoF90
      @AnekoF90 Год назад +4

      They are doing the exact same as Playground, killing the franchise with a shit game. 🤷‍♂️

    • @TheBlackD
      @TheBlackD Год назад +32

      Does anybody knows what TF happened after FM4 ? We all know it was the perfect iteration of the game. All they had to do was to build upon that base into next gen.

    • @Christoph22KakaFan
      @Christoph22KakaFan Год назад

      its a live service game. stop crying

    • @Matts_Mind
      @Matts_Mind Год назад +35

      @@Christoph22KakaFan L take

    • @Christoph22KakaFan
      @Christoph22KakaFan Год назад

      @@Matts_Mind 🥱

  • @aleksandartodosijevic4702
    @aleksandartodosijevic4702 Год назад +1929

    ah yes, developers consistently publishing unfinished and untested games like it's a contest 😌 love it 🥰

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 Год назад +114

      All of this for $70 while you could get a decently working used Xbox 360 with all the cables/controller for $50 and Forza Motorsport 4 for around $10 - $20. I got my 360 for $20 from a goodwill auction, FM4 for around $15 and a Logitech Drive FX wheel for $35 off of ebay for the rest and having a blast!
      I'm doing this shit is out of spite.

    • @FoXy-gr2hb
      @FoXy-gr2hb Год назад +44

      It's the publishers fault, developers aren't responsible for impossible deadlines, pay to win bs and other such things

    • @piter86
      @piter86 Год назад +36

      @@FoXy-gr2hbSure, sure, ofc it couldn't be a laziness and incompetence of people working on the title.

    • @wanderingbufoon
      @wanderingbufoon Год назад +29

      Execs and producers: "Put all focus on the transaction page"
      I do hate how badly and how much smoke devs get whenever a game is released that is bad due to their producers hindering them every step of the way.

    • @Z1g0l
      @Z1g0l Год назад +23

      And idiots buying them. Good ol' cycle.

  • @MrKruger88
    @MrKruger88 Год назад +331

    This review is SPOT. FUCKING. ON. This is like my inner thoughts turned into an video. I just said to my friends 2 days ago "this game has a 9/10 potential, but it was released in a 4/10 state"

    • @chickendinner5572
      @chickendinner5572 11 месяцев назад +11

      Thank God Gran Turismo 7 is pretty good. Forza looks like any other forza.

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 11 месяцев назад +3

      I am so happy I quit racing games before the microtransaction sh*tshow that is modern racing games. Gran Turismo V was my last modern racing game. And honestly, it has more cars baseline than this entire game does.

    • @zkrry
      @zkrry 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@chickendinner5572gt7 sucks lmao

    • @certifiedspecimen910
      @certifiedspecimen910 10 месяцев назад +9

      4/10 is too high. This game is a shitshow.

    • @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21
      @aksGJOANUIFIFJiufjJU21 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@goldenhate6649 You can still play the game and ignore microtransactions, you're just looking for the most ridiculous excuses to not play racing games, you could just say you're bored or something

  • @meiam678
    @meiam678 Год назад +580

    My only positive for this game is steam honoring the return policy.

    • @theteacupman7869
      @theteacupman7869 Год назад +54

      @@ddrod"Microwoke" bro what 😭😭😭

    • @dbspaceoditty
      @dbspaceoditty Год назад +1

      @@ddrod the thing is, yall talking shit on a game you dont even need to buy...
      i played the previous motor sport game for years. never paid for it.
      didtn pay for starfield. FH4, FH5, motorspots, PGA tour, ...
      its actually impossible for gamepass to not be worth it if you actually play video games.
      as long as you keep 3 games in your rotation.
      i get over 2000 dollars worth of value in a year for abotu 120 dollars.

    • @maximilianeissner4759
      @maximilianeissner4759 Год назад +47

      @@dbspaceoditty consoooooooooom

    • @almightysamwhich4203
      @almightysamwhich4203 Год назад +6

      ​@@dbspaceodittyyeah but some people did buy it and are pretty outraged

    • @dbspaceoditty
      @dbspaceoditty Год назад +19

      @@almightysamwhich4203 why, would you buy a game before it comes out?
      fucking wild concept. its not like its 2005 and there is only a certain number of physical disks available.

  • @VincentDeLuca2003
    @VincentDeLuca2003 Год назад +665

    Imagine developing a game for over half a decade, with said game intended to be a reboot of a franchise, and it ends up being worse than the worst games in the franchise before the reboot. Real shame. Also, welcome back again Shiny! (in video form at least)

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +41

      I call that "pulling a Saints Row"

    • @brancolt_
      @brancolt_ Год назад +6

      ah yes, the DmC Devil May Cry strategy to success

    • @TheJesterGuy_
      @TheJesterGuy_ Год назад +8

      It feels like Mortal Kombat 11 to 1 all over again.

    • @AcroxShadow
      @AcroxShadow Год назад +4

      @@brancolt_ DMC was still a good game to be fair.

    • @Agent-mb1xx
      @Agent-mb1xx Год назад

      DmC is still better than DMC2@@brancolt_

  • @blze0018
    @blze0018 Год назад +495

    Gran Turismo Sport: "We're gonna anger our fanbase by taking steps backwards"
    Forza Motorsport: "Hold my beer."

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад +5

      Kasumi Nakasu while playing FM2023: MEIN GOTT MUS DAS SEIN DESU?!

    • @pjisleta1994
      @pjisleta1994 Год назад +38

      at least GT7 improved despite its GT sport engine

    • @jettlucashayes8508
      @jettlucashayes8508 Год назад +13

      The thing is GTsport wasn't meant to be gt7, it also had a better single player then gt7

    • @QuattroSG
      @QuattroSG Год назад +2

      @@pjisleta1994 Improved what exactly? The multiplayer is nearly identical to sport and the single player is worse. I guess if you like RNG/gatcha they added raffle tickets...?

    • @anonony9081
      @anonony9081 Год назад +1

      @@QuattroSG I agree with you but at least the driving itself in GT7 is good. The rest of the game is pretty bad though

  • @petros-v4w
    @petros-v4w Год назад +665

    The whole video game industry is a disaster nowadays

    • @2ia05_raihanlaurent8
      @2ia05_raihanlaurent8 Год назад +84

      that's whole modern AAA games industry in nutshell. Indie still doing great

    • @stantorren4400
      @stantorren4400 Год назад

      The problem is retards keep buying, so the companies are happy to just give the money to their shareholders instead of actually putting time into the games

    • @RedPixel2023
      @RedPixel2023 Год назад +9

      On Xbox!

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Год назад +13

      It is but the racing games genre is something special ohhh boy is it a giant clusterf*ck of a show.
      Any gane that was enjoyable and not just mediocre good was sent to the shadow real or its successor have completely ruined its legacy, Driveclub is an example of that a game that was ahed of others and surprisingly get this get this..........people enjoyed playing it.

    • @zillajratomicray
      @zillajratomicray 11 месяцев назад +2

      They’re making more money than ever and putting out absolute garbage. At some point you’ve got to blame consumers. Most gamers are addicts and will pay to play anything, no matter how much they’re warned that the game is garbage.

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar Год назад +550

    The fact the restart and skip options are in the 'exit' submenus is a clear example that the people making the game lack fundamental understanding of how any game should work, and the standards and practices developed not just for the entire industry over the past 30 years, but for their own specific franchise have just been lost to time.

    • @tristanraine
      @tristanraine Год назад +35

      It's horrible UX, and the UI is just kinda "meh" too.

    • @eleven99
      @eleven99 Год назад +42

      Let me introduce you to the wonderful word used to describe this: "Soy-devving"

    • @joshjlmgproductions3313
      @joshjlmgproductions3313 Год назад +1

      FH5 was just as bad. This appears to be the same team.

    • @Billcee1976
      @Billcee1976 Год назад +1

      Diversity hires

    • @xenotiic8356
      @xenotiic8356 Год назад +9

      @@eleven99 the fuck does awful UX have to do with soy?

  • @james8050
    @james8050 Год назад +865

    6 years. We’ve waited for a new Forza motorsport game for 6 years. And it looks like this 😂

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад +19

      The graphics are good but it’s some stuff that made Forza good in the past that’s lacking in the new one.

    • @chrismusiclover9893
      @chrismusiclover9893 Год назад +109

      ​@@cameronb3834there lies the issue with you people these days it's all about graphics not about if the games ACTUALLY FUCKIN WORK

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад +12

      @@chrismusiclover9893 not everything is about graphics to me and I’m not like other people. There’s many other things the new Forza is lacking to what it once had.

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Год назад +4

      They could've worked on the game for 60 years and it would still be crap.
      They're just not a good dev team.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад +2

      ​@@chrismusiclover9893same goes to NHL 15. Only focused on graphics while removing 120. Yes. 120. GAME FEATURES FROM ALL THE OLDER NHL TITLES!

  • @dracomalfoyvevo
    @dracomalfoyvevo Год назад +243

    This game sometimes looks like installing an unfinished asseto corsa car mod from the workshop (especially in cockpit view) 💀

    • @Shinyodd
      @Shinyodd  Год назад +94

      It really does feel like a bunch of AC mods made by different people all clashing in 1 place lol

    • @Vermilleno
      @Vermilleno Год назад +6

      That's because Turn 10 has been actually contracting people outside of studio to make car models for them. This is the reason for inconsistency.@@Shinyodd

    • @CJW0056
      @CJW0056 Год назад +11

      ​@@Vermilleno that's pretty much standard, Polyphany has been doing this for years.

    • @Yautah
      @Yautah Год назад +26

      @@CJW0056 sure, but you really can't argue the fact that polyphony has a higher quality and consistency in their car assets, so the fact that it's contracted is irrelevant.

  • @MegaMarian12350
    @MegaMarian12350 10 месяцев назад +88

    And despite having ALL OF THESE BUGS, it literally won as the "Best Racing Game" at the Game Awards 2023. 💀

    • @joaoarmandowiteck760
      @joaoarmandowiteck760 10 месяцев назад +4

      yep, its forza.

    • @Delimon007
      @Delimon007 10 месяцев назад +9

      It somehow beat the new rally game that came out which is 100000 times better than this garbage 😂

    • @chanhkhiemtran9010
      @chanhkhiemtran9010 10 месяцев назад +26

      Bruh,Motorfest and GT7 are way better than this broken absolute bullsh*t of a game

    • @joaoarmandowiteck760
      @joaoarmandowiteck760 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@chanhkhiemtran9010 then why did it take the best racing game of the year?

    • @BobThebuilder-fy5ur
      @BobThebuilder-fy5ur 10 месяцев назад +31

      @@joaoarmandowiteck760cause the game awards are a joke 😂now calm down fanboy

  • @blapbIap
    @blapbIap Год назад +564

    i remember when forza vs gran turismo used to mean they were competing to be better than each other, now it seems they’re at odds to see who can make a shittier excuse for a main series racing title

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +60

      You can thank live services for that.

    • @battlewolf578
      @battlewolf578 Год назад +64

      At least GT was playable at launch, but this is their second attempt at live service

    • @jesusserrano8769
      @jesusserrano8769 Год назад +96

      Gt was the oposite to this, it was a very polished game , it was neat but it lacked q lot of content, this one is more on the clusterfuck side but it has a lot of content

    • @wordsshackles441
      @wordsshackles441 Год назад +6

      They never were in the same league…

    • @nottharunzzzz
      @nottharunzzzz Год назад +18

      @@jesusserrano8769 i'd argue motorsport is mostly artificial content inflation mostly bcs of the caRPG

  • @solidtoto
    @solidtoto Год назад +470

    I'm convinced AAA devs nowadays never played the past titles of the one they're working on.
    They always want to start from scratch and introduce new things but seem to always miss because they removed what made past titles great...

    • @hookedfamgaming
      @hookedfamgaming Год назад +5

      well considering this is a "reboot" of the franchise and how poor FM7 was for majority of people that wanted a motorsport game to be sim and not arcade (if you want arcade go play forza horizon) they had to build from the ground up which is why we dont have any tracks we had in other motorsports yet because they are still working on updating them to the new games handling model and updating track layouts to better represent the irl track.

    • @falcongamer58
      @falcongamer58 Год назад +61

      And the most confusing part about all of this is that this Forza Motorsport has the *same* director who has been here since Forza 1. He's the same guy behind Forza Motorsport 2,3, and 4, which are seen as the best games in the franchise
      And yet he managed to mess up this game

    • @Arrozconchopsticks
      @Arrozconchopsticks Год назад

      ​@@falcongamer58at least I own all of those.

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Год назад +31

      The fact the restart and skip options are in the 'exit' submenus is a clear example that the people making the game lack fundamental understanding of how any game should work, and the standards and practices developed not just for the entire industry over the past 30 years, but for their own specific franchise have just been lost to time.

    • @meerkat5818
      @meerkat5818 Год назад +4

      They probably haven't played this one either.

  • @captaingoogle6574
    @captaingoogle6574 Год назад +556

    Thanks for confirming what I suspected. I can't believe that almost a decade of development and it's as unfinished and broken as it is. Unbelievable. Turn 10 has become a scummy company run by people who don't even know the basic fundamentals of a video game

    • @timmyrandomvideos4375
      @timmyrandomvideos4375 Год назад +6

      Forza Hater

    • @neringalukoseviciute1787
      @neringalukoseviciute1787 Год назад

      @@timmyrandomvideos4375 brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt hater

    • @3verstorm
      @3verstorm Год назад +100

      @@timmyrandomvideos4375 the entire triple-A gaming industry is like this. Cyberpunk 2077, Forza Motorsport, Kerbal Space Program 2, Apex Legends, Overwatch 2, basically everything except for indie games are half finished abysmal messes.

    • @immortal6004
      @immortal6004 Год назад +33

      ​@@3verstorm cyberpunk redeemed itself after 3 years

    • @tylerpalmer8722
      @tylerpalmer8722 Год назад +54

      @@immortal6004 but they lost SOOOOO much market share in the process. There are probably thousands of people who will never touch the game because they remember it as the game that "was supposed to be good, but was terrible". I know I'll never buy it.

  • @_ChadThundercock_
    @_ChadThundercock_ 6 месяцев назад +8

    6 months later and i honestly cant find a single improvement. its still lags, it still has plenty of rendering issues, loading screens can still softlock the game, i spent more time in the loading screen than i did in a race at nürburgring.

  • @soldeera
    @soldeera Год назад +283

    6 years to recycle even fh1 models, this is the true triple A experience we expected from turn10. No wonder why they have been killing the series after releasing fh3

    • @MJ-uk6lu
      @MJ-uk6lu Год назад +34

      And those FH1 models were recycled from FM4 and FM3 and FM2. The longer you think about it, the more depressing it gets.

    • @atomiclee8359
      @atomiclee8359 Год назад +9

      From the ground up!!

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад +2

      Ya I truly stopped playing forza after FM3. FM2 and FM3 will always be my favs. The new Forza is honestly even worse than FM7 with only 500 vehicles and the multiplayer just sucks compared to FM7 I miss the Tag Virus mode.

    • @timmyrandomvideos4375
      @timmyrandomvideos4375 Год назад

      ​@@cameronb3834don't smack talk forza

    • @timmyrandomvideos4375
      @timmyrandomvideos4375 Год назад

      And no, they weren't "killing" the series...

  • @__Konboi__
    @__Konboi__ Год назад +374

    My personal peeve is how they shafted the SCV12 engine. In real life, it is the loudest thing in existence!

    • @falcongamer58
      @falcongamer58 Год назад +73

      I wonder why they didn't just port the sound from FH5

    • @still_guns
      @still_guns Год назад +88

      @@falcongamer58 That would require effort.

    • @toxicmuggle5788
      @toxicmuggle5788 Год назад +8

      ​@@still_gunsTo be fair the ported multiple models from older games

    • @ImMida
      @ImMida Год назад +9

      @@toxicmuggle5788 A few of them are from the original Motorsport in 2005

    • @lynpendry
      @lynpendry Год назад +4

      @@still_gunsmore effort to create new sound

  • @succulenttrash3343
    @succulenttrash3343 Год назад +166

    6 years between FM7 and this. I bought it and played it. It simultaneously feels like a pre-Alpha build for FM7 and also FM7.2 at the same time. No experimental drag and no drift lobbies and drift events despite all the work they put in to put that stuff in the game in the last game. But yet it feels like they slightly improved the racing in general from FM7. Its like what the hell were they doing for 6 years????

    • @MrSirGiuseppe
      @MrSirGiuseppe Год назад +5

      And yet drift suspension is still in the game, its almost like they plan to add stuff if y'all would give some decent feedback for once instead of complaining more than a woman.

    • @succulenttrash3343
      @succulenttrash3343 Год назад

      @@MrSirGiuseppe this entire video and this comment is a full list of the issue with this game. Everyone online has been giving suggestions on how to fix the car upgrade system because it was unnecessary to change it. Get your head out your own sexist ass and pay attention dumb fuck, or is your reading comprehension and reading skills on a 2nd grade level and you can't understand shit?

    • @CrunchyTire
      @CrunchyTire Год назад +9

      designing limbs for your handicap avatar, obviously. The important stuff bruh

    • @leoortiiiz
      @leoortiiiz Год назад +7

      ​@@MrSirGiuseppe so used to defending lackluster games he's convinced himself that adding something after the launch when the last game had it from the start is fine for a triple A company to do

    • @Kickassdave
      @Kickassdave Год назад +3

      @@leoortiiizAgreed. I'm straight up sick to death of folk defending these shoddy practices/companies.
      The "AAA" gaming space has become a joke, with each company just trying to out-profit the other, and with absolutely zero regard for the consumer.
      Everyone asking why this game took 6 years. The answer is that it didn't. It probably took "A" year and with a very small team working on it. They (as noted in the video) mostly copied assets they already had and just did the bare minimum to call this a "new" game.
      Sadly... just like EA/Activision/Ubisoft do every year or two with their awful "AAA" games (FIFA/NBA/COD/FARCRY/ASSASSIN's CREED)....

  • @waiseshah7458
    @waiseshah7458 Год назад +75

    And this is why I am cautious when watching reviews from companies like IGN because this isn’t the first time that they did not mention bugs, issues, and other complaints present in games that come out. Thank you for posting this video to give us the heads up and save us from being deceived. You’ve earned a sub! Also I love the fact that you used the pokemon soundtrack in your video’s background at one point haha

    • @QuattroSG
      @QuattroSG Год назад

      IGN and the like have been lying in their reviews for a very very long time now, easily 10+ years. You shouldn't use their website at all honestly, it's trash.

    • @FacuGonz3
      @FacuGonz3 Год назад +9

      Also, Forza has a toxic fan base, so they always try to justify the really bad things the game has. At least for PC, is the worst racing game you can buy new.

    • @waiseshah7458
      @waiseshah7458 Год назад

      @@FacuGonz3 yeah that’s true but that’s also the case for any fan base of any game that will fight to defend garbage being released by companies. They act as if those companies are paying these people to be so defensive when the negatives about games are being called out lol it just doesn’t make any sense to me to be in denial about it and pretend like they deserve our money when they lack the quality and entertainment needed to justify the purchase.

    • @goldenhate6649
      @goldenhate6649 11 месяцев назад +2

      I mean, if IGN has a review, its probably wrong anyway.

    • @virtualawakening2299
      @virtualawakening2299 9 месяцев назад

      A lot of those companies are paid off to make good reviews. You have to be careful and collect a healthy amount of data before drawing your own conclusions.

  • @magnachemmayhem
    @magnachemmayhem Год назад +330

    I'm still astonished that this game has been in development for so long yet feels like a rush job, I didn't really look into anything about this game (just been happily playing FH5 and Gran Turismo) but I am genuinely amazed at how buggy and unfinished this looks. I feel bad for people who put down 90 pounds just to end up with this mess!

    • @smolltaco5667
      @smolltaco5667 Год назад +1

      Isnt this just a beta?

    • @GER_Jan
      @GER_Jan Год назад

      @@smolltaco5667 It is the pre-release for the people that pre orderd the game. Still, I am happy I did not pre order the game. It is a mess...

    • @hansolo631
      @hansolo631 Год назад +1

      I don't understand how they can release sims on the PC that don't have VR. I don't get it. Why even bother? VR and driving just goes together like PB+jelly.
      Also, you just know this is like every other simcade where every car is the same understeering bore to drive. Ac, ACC, AMS2. iracing forever, simcades never. There's just no need for these shittily driving games. There's too much great driving content as is. Who cares about RPG elements in racing anyways, that's dumb af

    • @Skumtomten1
      @Skumtomten1 Год назад +16

      Developers often lie about "development " time as a marketing tool. They might start planning for the game a long time prior to the release, and use that as a reference point for development time. Most of the time, full manpower is not set in until the last year prior to release or, just like so many other things in the coorporate word, development time is more or less a lie.

    • @BotulinSpikedMarzipan
      @BotulinSpikedMarzipan Год назад

      Magnachem guy.

  • @RATTMAN
    @RATTMAN Год назад +82

    This is why pre-order early access doesn't make sense anymore. You are basically paying to be the first to experience these bugs.

    • @satorumayokohama1133
      @satorumayokohama1133 Год назад +11

      they never did really dawg

    • @lynpendry
      @lynpendry Год назад +3

      @@satorumayokohama113310 years ago maybe lol

    • @guska5523
      @guska5523 Год назад +3

      @@lynpendry ironically, it wasn't a thing 10 years ago, at least not nearly as common as it is now.

    • @adlibbed2138
      @adlibbed2138 Год назад +9

      "but if I'm not preordering, I might gonna be the last in the leaderboards"
      ~modern game consoomers, probably

    • @taube9668
      @taube9668 Год назад

      ​@@lynpendrydont know which games you played but back then it also made no sense. You'd just go into the store after release and chances were that they had the preorder editions left over

  • @fvthelegend455
    @fvthelegend455 Год назад +569

    When the world needed him the most. He returned

    • @sado_3939
      @sado_3939 Год назад +33

      And when he did, he didn't just make a video, he made a proper statement

    • @TheBlueWanderer2000
      @TheBlueWanderer2000 Год назад +2

      He takes too long to upload videos to RUclips.

    • @Danny-jy8mb
      @Danny-jy8mb Год назад +1

      @@TheBlueWanderer2000 but when he did, he spits facts and fire

    • @MerrillDragonAge
      @MerrillDragonAge Год назад +1

      gru 😮

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад

      He's basically saying what I wanted to say.

  • @LilApe
    @LilApe Год назад +35

    This what happens when you "reboot" a franchise. Id gives them the excuse to fuck everything up for no reason and claim "its a re imagining".

  • @117johnpar
    @117johnpar Год назад +111

    Its insane they have drift suspension without drift tires, but also drag tires with no use for them as well. It almost seems intentional, like it was out of spite or something. Its quite difficult to be incompetent in such a specific and ironic way.

    • @satorumayokohama1133
      @satorumayokohama1133 Год назад +4

      this games physics engine is still garbage as hell so it aint a loss for the drift tires

    • @MarcoVeraccio
      @MarcoVeraccio Год назад +7

      @@satorumayokohama1133actually the driving physics are quite good. Ok, not ACC good obviously, but also, not worse than GT7 (in my opinion better)

    • @satorumayokohama1133
      @satorumayokohama1133 Год назад +2

      Subjective really the games made for a controller @@MarcoVeraccio

    • @MarcoVeraccio
      @MarcoVeraccio Год назад +2

      @@satorumayokohama1133 so is Forza Horizon series and those are a joke physics wise.

    • @eightymopar
      @eightymopar Год назад +1

      My guess is the drag racing and drifting events will be coming at, or soon after the full launch. Why its not here now when the tires/suspension is i cant answer. But on the plus side they said all future tracks are going to be free, and ive seen no system that could be leading into microtransactions so far.
      That being said, it looks like the main thing the $30 premium upgrade gets you is the car pass and vip thing. All other future content being free. If thats going to be the case, then thats a plus at least.

  • @revus5078
    @revus5078 Год назад +231

    Worst part is
    The “critics” are all raving about it online
    So good luck with turn 10 listening to our cries of agony

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +32

      It was the same deal with GT7.

    • @towermoss
      @towermoss Год назад +12

      I ended up getting the top version based on all the reviews. Granted, I didn't spend my own money (someone paid me $500 for a stupid TF2 hat), but still. That $100 could've gotten me a lot of games during a big Steam sale.

    • @revus5078
      @revus5078 Год назад +3

      @@towermoss I did the same, but pulled it out of my own hard earned money. Super disappointed

    • @lucasguimaraes5927
      @lucasguimaraes5927 Год назад +5

      They won't, like they didn't on FM7. At the same time, PG games puts crazy amounts of content on FH5, which explains why Horizon is soo ahead of Motorsport with the public satisfaction and fame.

    • @mineralwater6736
      @mineralwater6736 Год назад +17

      @@jjay350except gt7 was way better at launch than forza 8.
      Gt7>>>>>>>

  • @robbonabbo
    @robbonabbo Год назад +146

    truly one of the games of all times

  • @newbeginner6461
    @newbeginner6461 10 месяцев назад +23

    How did this even win in "Innovation and Accessibility" category in 2023 GOTY?

    • @MegaMarian12350
      @MegaMarian12350 10 месяцев назад +6

      Forget that. It also won in "Best Racing Game"

  • @ATRcams
    @ATRcams Год назад +152

    What impresses me the most, is the amount of people involved in the project for so many years and yet no one was capable of pointing out those flaws.

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +37

      Must have been surrounded by yes-men.

    • @ATRcams
      @ATRcams Год назад +6

      Exactly. If you pay attention, they're just recyling the same game since Forza Motorsport 1 over and over.Maybe the franchise is tired. Or plain lazy.@@CLU55

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Год назад +2

      Microsoft / Xbox is terrible at managing thier game development teams.

    • @Lagmaster33
      @Lagmaster33 Год назад +16

      3 years of idling and 6 months of crunch seems to be how teams operate these days.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад

      ​@@Lagmaster33seems like putting online only to even singleplayer career mode in FM2023 basically followed all the mistakes from Gran Turismo Sport.

  • @SchrödingerKousae
    @SchrödingerKousae Год назад +21

    0:57 Bro why are you recording them reproducing? That's not the games fault, that's a you issue. Sure they could've gotten a room, but they're just cars, not people. Smh
    Good vid tho, I kinda want a racing game, sounds like Forza 4 or 5 (idk which is better in terms of features/content/etc) is still the one I should get. It's so weird though, I saw Forza 4 and 5 gameplay from RTGame, and that shit looked so good, how the fuck did they manage to fuck up the next entry so bad?

  • @drywrecker
    @drywrecker Год назад +415

    Fh5 fans can finally breathe a sigh of relief knowing its no longer the most hated game

    • @pancake8853
      @pancake8853 Год назад +57

      Way to make Playground Games look more like Nintendo, Turn 10!

    • @gymusen
      @gymusen Год назад +19

      Sadly and happily, yes.
      Sad to see the game that has been worked on longer than FH5 Itself be such a let down, missing many features that have been worked on in both Motorsport and Horizon not being used, bugs and glitches almost if not everywhere, graphics and sounds being horrible, and the upgrade system being horrible.

    • @claudiobizama5603
      @claudiobizama5603 Год назад +28

      FH5 has a Tsuru, it's now peak gaming.

    • @orlandoclark8062
      @orlandoclark8062 Год назад +7

      I am fan of GT7 and enjoying it, just maybe Forza will get better over the next year smh.

    • @nadrewod999
      @nadrewod999 Год назад +2

      Was FH5 the one in Mexico that let people design their characters to be such bad drivers that they were made of more prosthetic parts than organic tissue?

  • @100xasd
    @100xasd Год назад +140

    So sad to see what Forza has become. I have very great, if not some of the best gaming memories playing the first games on my Xbox 360 back in the days after the NFS series started to flop.

    • @180ballybollock
      @180ballybollock Год назад

      I've had it since the first one on xbox and still have every game

    • @killerbeau95
      @killerbeau95 Год назад +12

      forza 2 was the best of course. ignorant of me really to think this would come close to it. it could if it tired.

    • @Zeke313_Editz
      @Zeke313_Editz Год назад

      I think NFS All started to flop either at 2015 or Payback
      Forza Motorsport isn’t that bad either…sure it has its flaws(MANY MANY MANY ANNOYING FLAWS) but other than that it’s a DECENT game

    • @BleedForTheWorld
      @BleedForTheWorld Год назад

      @@killerbeau95 Forza series peaked at 3 and maybe 4 for some but definitely 3. Forza 3 was the game that sold Xbox consoles back in the day. It was the Gran Turismo 3 and 4 when those launched on PlayStation 2 and they were amazing. The downfall all started since Forza 5 on the Failbox One. That set a terrible precedent for the series. You all have to remember that this is NOT the first time the Forza series has seen a reboot - it was rebooted with 5!!

    • @edwarddavid7893
      @edwarddavid7893 Год назад

      Instead of listening to no name youtubers/ sony trolls try the game. its free on gamepass and it is the best Forza Motorsport game to date.

  • @vitorpr1245
    @vitorpr1245 Год назад +157

    Unfinished games are the new business model for the industry. They must have reach the conclusion that somehow they earn more money this way

    • @Truthnowhere2020
      @Truthnowhere2020 Год назад +15

      good way to extend the product lifecycle, oooh they'll fix it in the next patch

    • @mfluentz1378
      @mfluentz1378 Год назад +12

      Cure a patient and you lose the customer mindset 😒
      Damn sellouts made everything go to 💩

    • @mr.darknight416
      @mr.darknight416 Год назад +22

      Well it does, look at cp2077 or nms. It doesnt matter if the games they released were dog shit. Bc after 3-5 years and tons of patches people become fkn idiots and forget everything, heck they even praise them for delivering what should have been delivered 3 YEARS AGO.
      So ye they face no consequences, as they get the bag and then throughout years they’ll patch it and everyone will forget. Rinse and repeat

    • @johnboko7110
      @johnboko7110 Год назад +1

      ​​​​​@@mr.darknight416Exactly that is why anyone try to defend CD Projekt Red's Cyberbug 2077 with me they can eat a penis, This bs business practice with developers and publishers need to end at the buck.

    • @MrSirGiuseppe
      @MrSirGiuseppe Год назад +1

      ​@@mr.darknight416can you make a game?

  • @flamingburitto
    @flamingburitto Год назад +76

    This is why I don't trust mainstream reviews when it comes to racing games. They praise the graphics and cars and controls and that's it. Without actually going in depth about the game.

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +1

      It was the same deal when GT7 launched, they wouldn't touch any of the glaring issues.

    • @Truthnowhere2020
      @Truthnowhere2020 Год назад +2

      wheel implementation is a joke on this

    • @c01onel
      @c01onel Год назад +5

      Mainstream outlets don't know anything about racing games. I mean, remember FH5's launch and all those 10/10's that were being given 💀

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 Год назад

      I always avoid mainstream reviews now-a-days and always have to decide if I am going to spend money on something that is worth it to me or not.
      This shit is $70 and I am baffled that it's been 6 years already since the last FM game with FM7 that wasn't even that good compared to the previous entries of the franchise. For $70 now you could just get a 360, controllers/cheep 360 wheel, and a copy of FM4 off of ebay and have a better racing experience and overall video game experience than most racing games on the market right now. New racing games to me are *Boring. As. Fuck.*

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 Год назад +1

      Majority of reviewers have very little clues about racing games, let alone sims.

  • @brainbowbash
    @brainbowbash Год назад +173

    Did you know that 2 of the meta cars are locked behind a paywall?
    The 2018 Audi R8 LMS is the meta in GT3
    The 2018 VW Golf GTi is the meta in TCR
    The game has P2W cars at launch 💀

    • @jamiewright9767
      @jamiewright9767 Год назад +35

      I have the Golf, and you’re absolutely spot on. I used the Civic in the first TCR race and was met with a lobby of 20 other people using the Golf.
      Ended up using the Golf and it’s on rails. It’s a shame that it’s a P2W car, although I’m guilty of using it, it shouldn’t be that way.

    • @raptorjeezus2607
      @raptorjeezus2607 Год назад

      @@jamiewright9767 bet i could set the civic up so it competes but i gotta wait till the 10th

    • @erikas7456
      @erikas7456 Год назад +3

      same as in horizon 5

    • @jamiewright9767
      @jamiewright9767 Год назад +3

      @@raptorjeezus2607 I nabbed a 7th in the Civic but purely through everyone wrecking each other (classic Forza).
      There’s definitely a lot of merit in learning setups as I think non-meta cars could be really competitive, but for most people they’re not going to bother, so cars like the Golf and the R8 LMS are just going to be commonplace in the regular lobbies.

    • @raptorjeezus2607
      @raptorjeezus2607 Год назад +1

      @@jamiewright9767 I’m just assuming the same stuff still holds true I do in assetto to setup up that car. Rear toe out, front toe in, brake bias quite far rear

  • @SaturnPone
    @SaturnPone 10 месяцев назад +32

    Coming back to see this after this somehow won an award.
    The Crew Motorfest was robbed.....

    • @SaturnPone
      @SaturnPone 9 месяцев назад +2

      That or EA Sports WRC

    • @dyaanahmad5079
      @dyaanahmad5079 6 месяцев назад +1

      You thought this was bad. Ever heard of Flatout 3

    • @SaturnPone
      @SaturnPone 2 месяца назад

      @@dyaanahmad5079 Ohhhh, I have! Trust me~

  • @theviper7603
    @theviper7603 Год назад +399

    The game's bascially a shell of what was promised and what it should've been: A new game from the ground up, not a re-badged early access title.
    It makes me sad how games are being pushed out so unfinished, that one gets 2nd hand embarrasment while playing sometimes.
    Edit: I'm not hating on the devs, it's (mostly) always the management :/

    • @NickyYey
      @NickyYey Год назад +2

      Cyberpunk 2

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX Год назад +4

      Bro nowadays games are very advanced and much more complex than before, like Cyberpunk they had to launch the game so they fix it's issues faster by getting more data with users using it than only Team 10 employees accessing it...... That's how next gen games are like, if you use existing game and improve on it of course it's less costly + less problems + less time + more polished from start..... But Team 10 want a totally new era for Forza Motorsport here

    • @SlavicUnionGaming
      @SlavicUnionGaming Год назад +1

      expect the same to happen to call of suty in the future

    • @falcongamer58
      @falcongamer58 Год назад +42

      ​@@TRX25EXno, don't defend bad practices, and especially do not buy their "games are too complex for us" lie
      They're absolute fools. Good leadership and teamwork can give excellent games at launch, it was the norm since the 90s until the early 2010s

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX Год назад

      @@falcongamer58 I worked as a beta tester for MSFS 2020 game and people like you don't understand how much work is being put here by developers, they literally said we have around 300-400 employees working full time daily 6 days a week 9 hours a day and some even at home working....... And they said even with that it will take over a 2 decades to bring a game problems free...
      Having 300-400 users testing it is different than a freaking Hundreds of thousands if not millions are reporting it's issues..... The target is to bring a game to 7-8/10 sort of rating and make it a 10/10 game over time and this exactly what happened with many other games out there......

  • @Child_of_woe_1994
    @Child_of_woe_1994 Год назад +141

    I'm starting to wonder what they were actually doing while the game was in development because this looks like a very pre-alpha build😂

    • @hybridShinx
      @hybridShinx Год назад +34

      Welcome to modern game company

    • @GER_Jan
      @GER_Jan Год назад +15

      Are you really suprised?
      This is happening with every single modern AAA Game. They are all like release now, fix later
      That is why I am not pre ordering any games anymore

    • @Blur4strike
      @Blur4strike Год назад +1

      Drinking booze and smoking the magic leaf.

  • @---ke3lg
    @---ke3lg Год назад +47

    Just so you know the Subie remodel was meant for FM7 but they forgot to introduce it so they're giving it to FM. Hence the hazy headlights cuz in those days the cars didnt have fully see through headlights.

  • @theun-personing5674
    @theun-personing5674 11 месяцев назад +16

    Gaming companies seem to be getting so lazy these days.

  • @Chasm9
    @Chasm9 Год назад +96

    They were incredibly dishonest when they showcased the advanced ray tracing and track assets and car models in that 2022 demo, but what we've got instead is a watered down downgraded version. Just go watch it. They don't even push the visuals on PC reasonably above Xbox Series X's graphics.

    • @MTG9745
      @MTG9745 Год назад +6

      Even the Series X graphics can look a little underwhelming at times. I have my graphics settings on Performance RT, and notice that on about 2 of the maps lose FPS. I know that it’s the Ray Tracing setting, but it’s *performance* ray tracing. On a console that outperforms most mid range PCs in most games (looking at you MWII). I would say that the issues are because it just got released, but if it’s been in development for almost 10 years then there’s no excuse to have these glitches. I’ve never experienced them myself other than the FPS issue, but if there are known issues that are longer than your average CVS receipt, then this game should not have come out. It’s just down right not acceptable. Even studios like Insomniac know this and have a 60 FPS Ray Tracing option for Spider-Man 2, and they’re not as big as Turn 10. Bigger companies and studios need to realize that we prioritize good gameplay over graphics. While good graphics are nice, they should replace good gameplay. This is exactly why the Batman Return to Arkham games are still great 😂

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Год назад +5

      Way downgraded. Only the trailer that made me hyped.

    • @djxgam1ng
      @djxgam1ng Год назад

      Do you link for the reveal??

    • @deadkey
      @deadkey Год назад

      Dont use DLSS. Use resolution scale to 175 or 200% and its crystal clear

  • @OGAwsomSauce
    @OGAwsomSauce Год назад +116

    I also love how turn10 spent the entire promotion of this game focusing on the rendering. Look how beautiful it looks! Look at the beautiful rendering! “How’s the gameplay?” Absolute dog shit but the rendering is amazing!

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +10

      Funny thing is most racing sims look great these days.

    • @thatoneguywholovesthena-4529
      @thatoneguywholovesthena-4529 Год назад +20

      ​@@jjay350exactly, good visuals or "graphics" is not a freaking selling point anymore, this isn't 2010, the game better look good if you want to sell. This is the equivalent of a phone manufacturer advertising 4G😱 on the box like, would I buy a phone that isn't 4g at the very least? It's the bare minimum ffs😑

    • @sleeplessindefatigable6385
      @sleeplessindefatigable6385 Год назад +21

      the saddest thing is that rendering turned out to be bogus anyway. The ray traced effects they made big noise about are barely worth turning on for how limited the distance they draw at is.

    • @haaxxx9
      @haaxxx9 Год назад +4

      @@jjay350 Racing games looks amazing these days but the realistic graphics now is so fucking boring that I really miss the 90's and 2000's racing game art style and flair put into them. Choro Q (Or Road Trip Adventures 1/2), Enthusia Professional Racing and Auto-modellista for the PS2 have stylish graphics, unique Locations, interesting and funky OST and plays really different from one another that I really adore and find it to be fascinating to discover these old racing games that some you need a compatible racing wheel (Holding on my DFGT to play older racing games) to even play like Enthusia and it feels fantastic with a DFGT! That's why most people who still give a fuck about the dedicated part for racing games are upset that the era for creativity and making a video game, a video game to just being all about graphics and physics ONLY without the personality that the games I listed makes it all the more desire to have something that is just stand out from the rest.
      No, NFS Unbound half-assed-ness doesn't count with the cel-shaded player models mixed with realistic graphics that looks really off and makes it a glorified fan mod. And a ton of pacing and quality of life problems that game have as well for the single player which I only played for 16 hours before I uninstall that piece of shit game and played heat more lmfao. $75 down the fucking drain!

    • @mr.darknight416
      @mr.darknight416 Год назад

      And even then the game looks like dogshit with washed out graphics. They couldnt even get that right. The games optimization is dog shit

  • @av94152
    @av94152 Год назад +59

    "Why make sequels if there are more similarities than differences?" is still a very asked question in late 2023, I thought newer sequels would be the opposite of that???

    • @HDReMaster
      @HDReMaster Год назад +2

      because people will buy it anyways

    • @fifteen8850
      @fifteen8850 Год назад +5

      Who knows, but its working wonders for COD

  • @aquaisuseful682
    @aquaisuseful682 11 месяцев назад +39

    Gt7 May be horribly monetized and all that but god damn will I admit it’s a passion project. The developers sink their souls into every car model and track.

    • @Evarakeus
      @Evarakeus 9 месяцев назад +2

      In what way is it horribly monetized? Have you actually played it more recently than literally at launch?

    • @aquaisuseful682
      @aquaisuseful682 9 месяцев назад

      @@Evarakeus I played it nearly daily last three months, I’m just saying the grind is harsh and ridiculous. And the fact that the micro transactions give you so little, I’m stuck grinding 1 hour long endurance races just to get one or two cars.

    • @brandonuden6654
      @brandonuden6654 8 месяцев назад

      Gt7 is the most fun thing to race on also online it has the bether grafics and all that caint of things. So What are you guys talking abouth. !? Forza motorsport is full of crap specialy online its almost like wreck fest shame on that. And also why the cars so slippery specialy the gt cars and some racing cars.. on normal mode its ok but when you turn the disable mode on its a big disaster. They must fix that stuff. Asking for friend because he is almost blind but still like these caint of games. So until they fixed i always help him.

  • @trentonwelch9506
    @trentonwelch9506 Год назад +86

    Holy shit, the fact they actually gave this the green light to be released is astonishing to me. Microsoft needs to pull this game and give a refund to everyone till its ready, that way they're held responsible for thinking it was alright to sell it like this. Cause its only going to hurt microsoft themselves but also kids that begged their parents to buy them this game and get screwed out of say either $70 or $100.

    • @M1XB0X
      @M1XB0X Год назад +8

      I played it for free with game pass

    • @MrSirGiuseppe
      @MrSirGiuseppe Год назад +4

      I dont understand how people are gonna get screwed out of a game that works just fine? Its forza, it didn't change, it did improve from fm7 and you clowns are uptight because its not revolutionary or something? It doesn't need to have everything you ever wanted right at launch, things can be added. Would you rather them have added a bunch of shit we didn't want only to have to wait for it to be pulled from the game?

    • @neringalukoseviciute1787
      @neringalukoseviciute1787 Год назад +2

      Good thing i have game pass and some money left from my Xbox gift card so I wouldn’t have to waste my parents money on this monkey but game

    • @trentonwelch9506
      @trentonwelch9506 Год назад +19

      @@MrSirGiuseppe Okay stevie wonder, then explain why people are suddenly pissed off at the game for being a traih wreck on launch.

    • @VColossalV
      @VColossalV Год назад +1

      What do you mean, pull it? Like, completely scrap it?

  • @gormzola
    @gormzola Год назад +71

    We are in the age of broken AAA videogames, so its a bit naive to think this game would work properly. Also, didnt gran turismo 5 use the same kind of level system?

    • @hablicious6117
      @hablicious6117 Год назад +23

      Levelling system was only for unlocking cars to be purchased

    • @marcosneto9412
      @marcosneto9412 Год назад +7

      The leveling system in gt5 was way better (but not perfect), it just unlocked new cars to buy

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 Год назад +9

      Nope GT5 was mostly locking cars, not upgrades, behind levels.

    • @zacariascisneros6399
      @zacariascisneros6399 Год назад +3

      GT5's leveling system was better (but still bad)
      Because to upgrade your cars, your only handicap would be your own money if you don't have enough.
      However, to progress through the License Tests or BUY CARS you had to be at certain level to do it.

    • @gormzola
      @gormzola Год назад +4

      I've never played gt5 myself, but i think it's also comparable to the wait for gt5. It took 5 years (compared to gt4 taking 3) and multiple delays. and when it Came out, it had similar problems like reusing outdated car models, and an annoying progression system, albeit this is far worse than gt5. (Btw ive only played gt4/6/sport/7)

  • @BertoBoi
    @BertoBoi Год назад +94

    truly the forza motorsport of all time

  • @stevetalon
    @stevetalon 10 месяцев назад +11

    Hot Wheels and Crew Motorfest got robbed. Still don't get how THIS garbage won against the 2 other polished games in the category

  • @Gabriel-dj3kf
    @Gabriel-dj3kf Год назад +13

    Bro, what was that Silvia rolling over on 7:33 ? LoL 😂

  • @Ryhooon
    @Ryhooon Год назад +58

    The fact that they think this is worth 70 USD as well is wild

    • @satorumayokohama1133
      @satorumayokohama1133 Год назад

      reused dogshit ass 3d models, bland ass look, sounds like a unity early access game really

    • @NightRoseAlt
      @NightRoseAlt Год назад

      Yeah, I'm not gonna pay $120 AUD on any game (as the BASE GAME price) let alone this lmao

    • @Blur4strike
      @Blur4strike Год назад

      I'm going to wait until I can get the "Premium Edition" for pennies on the dollar, that's how I got ahold of FM7 (hello lootcrates, remember those?).

  • @ShadowRush2112
    @ShadowRush2112 Год назад +64

    The new Forza Motorsport makes me feel like we treated FM5 too harshly.

    • @figfigYT
      @figfigYT Год назад +10

      Nah fm5 was equally as ass on launch

    • @ShadowRush2112
      @ShadowRush2112 Год назад +29

      @@figfigYT At least it actually worked.

    • @ScottysHDGamingChannel
      @ScottysHDGamingChannel Год назад +15

      @@figfigYT At least you can play FM5 offline, I'm tired of all the new racing games being online only now days.

    • @TheRedRaven_
      @TheRedRaven_ Год назад +1

      @@ShadowRush2112You can argue FM5 was worse on launch, the frame rate seems good in this game and I haven’t heard of texture streaming stutters. Lol but they do share a lot of the same issues.

    • @neo1711
      @neo1711 Год назад +8

      ​@@ScottysHDGamingChannelthe funny thing is you couldn't even do that at launch, since the Xbox one needed to be connected to the internet

  • @joshuaquinones9760
    @joshuaquinones9760 11 месяцев назад +19

    I deleted this game recently.
    I have no regrets.
    Also, I can't wait to play FM4 when I get it on Christmas this year

    • @unkhezo_0
      @unkhezo_0 11 месяцев назад +3

      Playing old GOATS, so based

    • @joshuaquinones9760
      @joshuaquinones9760 5 месяцев назад +3

      Just completed FM4 recently. Better than this garbage and I'm thinking about getting FM3

    • @snakelinguini7298
      @snakelinguini7298 4 месяца назад

      @@joshuaquinones9760fm4 is brilliant, fm3 is as good if not slightly better. both have stellar soundtracks and graphics

  • @Muhluri
    @Muhluri Год назад +17

    0:14 how could they remove the Auction House? It’s the one thing that set apart Forza from its competitors

  • @ak740_
    @ak740_ Год назад +51

    A lot of the cars don’t even have gear shift animations when driving manual lol. I was shocked when I first noticed it. There’s countless other basic details they’ve omitted in the game that I don’t even have enough room here to type out. I don’t blame turn 10 though, this is 100% the gamepass effect. Similar to how a Netflix movie won’t have the same production value as a big budget movie made for theatres

    • @OctavioVLT
      @OctavioVLT 11 месяцев назад +5

      Game pass effect for sure. Nobody will buy it, games just becoming "content" to pad out a subscription. Souless and empty.

    • @pardolagames8994
      @pardolagames8994 9 месяцев назад

      Blue Side of the Force consumes me

  • @kcoolturbo
    @kcoolturbo Год назад +66

    I love how theyve somehow put together a game that , at launch, is in a worse state than FM7 was at launch.
    That takes an incredible level of dedication and skill.

  • @DSDKP
    @DSDKP Год назад +15

    Way back in the FM3 and FM4 days, I was so looking forward to the day that Forza Motorsport would be able to properly rival and beat Gran Turismo. As each non Horizon title came, an went, Turn 10 seemed to fall off more and more with being a true racer as it had felt before. Now FM is just a shadow of its former self as the Horizon titles take more and more precedence over the game that put Turn 10 on the map to begin with.

    • @azi9_ity
      @azi9_ity Год назад +2

      to hell with horizon. couldnt even keep me engaged with the 5th game for 2 hours

    • @tyler300srgt
      @tyler300srgt Год назад +7

      During FM1 to FM4 I see they are really making the franchise to be the GT’s competitor
      But Forza Motorsport these days they are more like the bootleg GT for Xbox and PC than GT competitor

    • @doomslayer4276
      @doomslayer4276 10 месяцев назад

      FH4 was the peak of horizon series

  • @Dorfuto
    @Dorfuto Год назад +71

    You know a game is bad when Shiny comes out of his burrow to post about it.

    • @ImnotZaz3n
      @ImnotZaz3n Год назад

      We don't talk about how the cars had sexual intercourse in the menu

  • @mech____
    @mech____ Год назад +70

    a dev who never playtests is like a chef who never tastes

    • @GER_Jan
      @GER_Jan Год назад +1

      Oh their devs and tester definetly told management that the game was not ready for release. But it was published anyways because people keep buying and pre ordering broken stuff.
      So why would they care releasing a working game if a broken one is making them money anyways without putting in the extra work

  • @TomLehockySVK
    @TomLehockySVK Год назад +38

    "Game of its year" award goes to Forza Motorsport. I guess this is what "modern gaming" is right now.

    • @olavofernandes7286
      @olavofernandes7286 Год назад +1

      Sure award for unfinished game

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick Год назад

      I bet it will win racing game of the year.

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад

      and they wonder why people are losing interest

    • @b.1570
      @b.1570 Год назад

      ​@@DriftNick Racing/Sports game... I hate TGA so much 🤦‍♂️

  • @sarmatiancougar7556
    @sarmatiancougar7556 9 месяцев назад +2

    So people complained about Forza having no meaningful progression and they tried to fix it with grind. Brilliant. Now whoever was on a fence will just skip this game entirely.

  • @Cappuccinoh
    @Cappuccinoh Год назад +13

    5:39 LMAOOOOOOO this should be illegal....

  • @DawnOfTheOzz
    @DawnOfTheOzz Год назад +6

    Wait. This game is online only even in single player? Always. Online. SINGLE. *PLAYER!*

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад

      Welcome to live services, some people actually defend this.

  • @yourhrbro
    @yourhrbro Год назад +10

    FM8 is basically following the steps of other Microsoft franchises where people behind series are replaced by people who not only weren't ever part of the series but never even had experience in the same genre. Dan Greenawalt who was the Director for: Forza Horizon 5 (2021), Forza Street (2019), Forza Horizon 4 (2018), Forza Motorsport 7 (2017), Forza Horizon 3 (2016), Forza Motorsport 6: Apex (2016), Forza Motorsport 6 (2015), Forza Hub (2015), Forza Horizon 2 presents Fast & Furious (2015), Forza Horizon 2 (2014), Forza Motorsport 5 (2013), Forza Horizon (2012). Dan was replaced by the new game director Chris Esaki who is famous for: Jade Empire, Gears of War (1&2), Mass Effect, Lips, Kinect Star Wars. What could have gone wrong?

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +3

      Sadly this has become an industrywide trend. The old talents vets are out, replaced by out of touch hires.

    • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819
      @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Год назад +1

      Whoa, whoa, whoa... Forza Street wasn't an actual Forza title; they just adopted the Forza name in an attempt to give it an ounce of credibility.

    • @servissop151
      @servissop151 Год назад

      @@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 Still had the Forza name so had to live up to some potential

    • @RichJohn
      @RichJohn Год назад

      Your point is nonsense. Dan Greenawalt was creative director of Turn 10. All of the Horizon games were developed in the UK by Playground Games, who had their own studio head(s). The only input from Turn 10 was some of the underlying technology.

  • @yobrethren
    @yobrethren 10 месяцев назад +11

    7:52 This GAEM is an utter TRAIN WRECK
    This gaem indeed 😭😭😭

  • @jimmyslapper1442
    @jimmyslapper1442 Год назад +11

    “We are rebuilding the game from the ground up” yet they have copied and pasted stuff, and left out other things that the previous games had, like drag strips, drift events, and drift cars/tires. I hope they fix some stuff in future updates like they did with Horizon 5

    • @baldeagle1171
      @baldeagle1171 Год назад

      Wheel support being good is enough for me to have fun

  • @benjaminhigham3624
    @benjaminhigham3624 Год назад +15

    Great video, you hit almost every issue I have had so far. One problem I have on the Series S is that changing the FOV doesn’t actually change the FOV at all so I can’t really use the interior camera.

    • @Shinyodd
      @Shinyodd  Год назад +12

      make sure you have "use custom FOV" enabled, dunno why this is a separate option, but your custom FOV settings won't do anything until this is checked

    • @RiffleVFXportfolio
      @RiffleVFXportfolio Год назад +3

      ​@@Shinyodd1000IQ menu option

  • @wall7103
    @wall7103 Год назад +44

    Lately I've broken out the ole Xbox 360 and started playing Motorsport 4 again. Crazy how the AI behaves IDENTICALLY to how its described in this video. They've had almost a decade and a half to improve, and they've only made it worse...

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад +12

      The gaming industry has been such a disappointment over the past decade.

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад +1

      @@jjay350I think they’ve hit a wall on how much they can innovate.

    • @chrismusiclover9893
      @chrismusiclover9893 Год назад

      ​@@cameronb3834nah its just corporate fuckheads ruining everything

    • @deadspoonxxx
      @deadspoonxxx Год назад +5

      ​@@cameronb3834they haven't, it's more so an attitude problem in the entertainment industries of Western countries. Shit quality, high prices all around.

    • @cameronb3834
      @cameronb3834 Год назад

      @@deadspoonxxx hmmm i feel like they have they just don’t know where to improve on games like COD and Halo where they have if it ain’t broke don’t fix it mentality. All they can really do is try to improve on graphics mostly if they try to improve anything at all. Even the latest COD open beta for MW3 is nearly identical to MW2 graphically.

  • @gtdmg489
    @gtdmg489 11 месяцев назад +8

    2:48 "the AI is far more A than I"

  • @parker73724
    @parker73724 Год назад +22

    So basically they looked at how well gran turismo's new progression system went over with the community and decided they want that as well.

    • @SV-Cantilever
      @SV-Cantilever Год назад +11

      GT's progression system is better though lol. Its tied to your personal collector level, not the car itself. Even then the level to have everything unlocked is not even that high. GT's career mode also involves actual race cars as well, not just your own built race cars.

    • @scuckplexity
      @scuckplexity Год назад +5

      At least polyphony make a decent used out of the variety of cars in the career mode

    • @jjay350
      @jjay350 Год назад

      @@SV-Cantilever Yup, I'd gladly take that over this. At least when you level up you can upgrade everything, not just one car.

  • @the_cacco
    @the_cacco Год назад +36

    fastest shinyodd upload schedule:

  • @Zer0defence
    @Zer0defence 10 месяцев назад +15

    How did this win best racing game? I don't understand

    • @ScottsGuitar
      @ScottsGuitar 10 месяцев назад +5

      scams dont usually make sense. your spidey sense is not off.

    • @uglify1325
      @uglify1325 8 месяцев назад

      it's a popularity contest

  • @dylanw8823
    @dylanw8823 Год назад +52

    Microsoft should be goddamn embarrassed with the state of this game at release. So many game breaking bugs its insane

    • @jonnie2bad
      @jonnie2bad Год назад +1

      im holding the same expectations for MSFS2024

    • @TheDrevonFTG
      @TheDrevonFTG Год назад +1

      They cant even fix Minecraft what did you expect 😂😂

    • @dougdimmadimsdale9571
      @dougdimmadimsdale9571 Год назад +5

      *diversity hires*

    • @ttt22295
      @ttt22295 Год назад

      Na na na it's Sony fault

    • @TRxh98
      @TRxh98 Год назад

      Speak for yourself. I haven't had any issues with it. You sony fanboys just find any excuse to bash Microsoft. Just stfu for once god.

  • @ADD1-zv1nt
    @ADD1-zv1nt Год назад +18

    The same was for the AI in FH5, if you did not catch up to the first 3 cars in from at the start of the race/or the first quarter then they get such a huge lead you will not be able to catch them

    • @adridell
      @adridell Год назад +4

      It's the same unrealistic and dumb AI as FH5, they also slow down when you are in first place, so there is no more challenge once in first place.

    • @justinkostick9048
      @justinkostick9048 Год назад +1

      Or you just suck I play with a sim wheel never had this problem I constantly have to raise the difficulty because it's too easy maybe just get better....

    • @ADD1-zv1nt
      @ADD1-zv1nt Год назад

      @@justinkostick9048 if you had to ramp up the difficulty then that means you were playing at easier settings. CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST PLAIED YOURSELF!
      Maybe go to pro or veteran then we will talk. And you telling me to get good? I was talking from experience since I play at pro with keyboard so F off
      The first 3 cars always have a good lead after the first quarter of the race from the rest of the pack

    • @genzphilosoph-e
      @genzphilosoph-e Год назад +5

      @@justinkostick9048people like you are just lovely

    • @genzphilosoph-e
      @genzphilosoph-e Год назад +4

      @@justinkostick9048 maybe some people have lives to live and spend their money on better things then sim rigs

  • @IGlooZGB
    @IGlooZGB Год назад +12

    "Artificial incompetence". Killed me with that line.:)))

  • @chrissholtis4488
    @chrissholtis4488 Год назад +5

    the only thing i disagree with is you said the physics are great. they are not. race cars aren't tail happy IRL. race cars also steer without tires SCREAMING. the physics are absolute garbage

  • @polestar5
    @polestar5 Год назад +5

    5:32 more people should be angry about this. The massive differences between the reveal trailer and the delivered game is frankly UNACCEPTABLE for a Triple-A Microsoft game.

  • @RayTheomo
    @RayTheomo Год назад +9

    6:20 ahh the ol Gran Turismo approach😂

  • @VandalisedZX
    @VandalisedZX Год назад +27

    Where have you been Shinyodd man, we've been missing you ❤

  • @mro9466
    @mro9466 10 месяцев назад +16

    The absolute state of gaming 💀

  • @zones3235
    @zones3235 Год назад +10

    At this point failure should be expected when it comes Triple-A launches.

  • @madspeed6519
    @madspeed6519 Год назад +30

    I wasn’t thinking of buying this game and I sure as hell won’t now😂 thanks for saving me my money and my sanity. Love you Shinyodd. Keep up the good work you absolute legend, always a pleasure and never a chore to have you around. I hope you’re doing well.

    • @luissalles3034
      @luissalles3034 Год назад

      Buy the game? Are you stupid?

    • @TheMothdemon
      @TheMothdemon Год назад

      You're a sheep and need to formulate your own opinions, I've played it since Launch with only 2 crashes and it's been perfect to me

  • @DYNANiK
    @DYNANiK Год назад +28

    Felt like the first not paid test lol

  • @P.Z.E.R.O
    @P.Z.E.R.O 11 месяцев назад +5

    The fact this game reviewed so well just proves that reviewers have no business covering racing games

  • @d9zirable
    @d9zirable Год назад +5

    Forza is broken, GT7 sucks, simcade racing games are dead

  • @franci2a777
    @franci2a777 7 месяцев назад +5

    Your average Microsoft product.
    No quality tests.

  • @pancake8853
    @pancake8853 Год назад +19

    Just a slight correction with powershifting: They haven't really removed powershifting, in fact using manual w/ clutch is still doing the opposite of what you just said. Just look at Just Devon's recent video and the in-game leaderboards

  • @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
    @SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim Год назад +9

    Forza Motorsport 4 was peak in most aspects !

    • @Neo-Midgar
      @Neo-Midgar Год назад +5

      1000%.
      GT2, GT4 and FM4 are the racing GOATS.

  • @gabrielchad447
    @gabrielchad447 Год назад +5

    I pre-ordered the premium upgrade to play this game early. Played through the introductory races with the E-ray and the Cadillac LMP. Both cars drove like the front tires were made of plastic, especially the E-ray. Chose the Civic Type-R as my first car and, lo and behold, not only did it also feel like it had plastic front tires, but literally ANY amount of throttle input caused it to completely lose all turning ability and just plow right off the track. I finally managed to finish the first career race in third place...only for the game to crash and soft lock my entire PC, forcing me to reboot. Also I was barely able to maintain 60 FPS with ray tracing disabled on a 7900XTX.

  • @D00m2k7
    @D00m2k7 Год назад +8

    Forza Motorsport without any real Motorsport? Well, that has to be an achievement in its own. 😂

    • @AdamantJHS
      @AdamantJHS Год назад +2

      I've long thought that the people responsible for this game aren't motorsport fans, or don't much watch much real life racing. They don't understand what motorsport is, or what motorsport fans really want. Why a game that has "motorsport" in the title would put so much emphasis on pretty unexciting road cars in the career mode honestly baffles me. A motorsport game should be about letting people to drive the sort of classics, exotics and racing cars that you'd never get chance to in real life, not grinding boring slow shitboxes.

  • @LeoDavidson
    @LeoDavidson Год назад +12

    We simply aren't allowed to have a good racing sim / simcade title with a decent career mode. Whenever it's attempted, someone travels back in time and sabotages the project.

    • @wastelanderone
      @wastelanderone Год назад

      Driveclub came close shame they killed the dev studio Driveclub 2 woulda been lit

  • @mountainhusk4382
    @mountainhusk4382 19 дней назад +7

    Yo what happened to Shinyodd? It's been a year since his last vid