The wind noise!!! So I own a 16 LS460L executive pkge - I purchased at 22k certified from Lexus. No road or wind noise at all. Ever. Once I hit 60kish I noticed a lot of wind noise from drivers front window. After looking into it I found the window molding up in the drivers front window in the corner next to the mirror was deforming and starting to wither away. Wiggled it back to place and went silent again. Brought to lexus and had them replace drivers front window molding (not covered as a wear an tear item) whatever 200 bucks later and problem solved perfectly until it withers away again lmao.. So hope that helps!
Although the electronics and gauges are outmoded and the joy stick still there. I bought her Certified Pre-Owned last summer and Lexus refused to give me or install Apple Car Play. Cheap solution? Got a knock-off cupholder insert cell phone holder for $19 and let Siri guide me through bluetooth. Keep the LS reviews coming! I can't handle in and out of SUVs due to knee and hip surgery, nor a Corvette etc. LS460Ls are fabulous if you can find one, apparently owners are hanging on to them. Back seat passengers often fall asleep, a compliment.
Love my 2014 LS460 F-Sport with 43k miles, had a few more issues than my 1999 LS400, but still a wolf in sheep's clothing. I take it out and let it stretch its legs twice a month. My daily workhorse is my 2011 Tacoma/TRD trim with 51K. Great video and the props for Lexus/Toyota.
I just bought a 2017 LS it had the option with all black interior even the headliner all black suede. It’s one of the nicest cars I’ve ever owned. I get compliments every where I go.
As for squeaks and whistles, not to be confused with rattle noises, I’ve found silicone cleaning of tracks and rubber is key maintenance that resolves such noise issues.
@@Brofessor17 I've test driven the new 500 with the twin turbo V-6. It's very smooth--there's no V-6 smoother or more refined than the one Lexus makes--but it's not a V-8. You'd think that Lexus would have at least offered the GSF's 5.0 liter naturally aspirated V-8 in the LS500.
@@wanyelewis9667 yea I was kinda suprised the 2UR-GSE (5.0 liter dual overhead cam engine) which was first put in the isf. The rcf I drive is kinda has clunky single clutch trans but with an armytrix valvetronic exhaust it sounds great.
I once owned a 2008 LS600hl that I bought used in 2011. I too, had experienced wind noise on my driver side, luckily I bought it as a certified pre-owned and with extended warranty. Glad you had suggested both points to your viewers, because repairs on ultra luxury car using genuine parts by authorized dealer can be expensive on newer cars. The dealer sent my car in for a test drive by Lexus noise engineer and they finally did a replacement of windows sills. After which, wind noise is much improved and acceptable on highway. I think the earlier 2000's LS 460 models which don't have acoustic noise insulation front windows and windshield will have some kind of noise. In 2016, I bought my current 2010 LS 460 with air suspension, ride is much better controlled and doesn't has the pillow soft, bouncy ride and body roll of a boat compared to the regular steel suspension of LS 460 ( which I happened to test drive before choosing one with air suspension ). I've enjoyed your video reviews of current LS 500 and LC 500, surprised to know the LS 500 F-sport is quieter without the wind noise compared to the regular LS 500. I think at some point, I might change to a 2016 or 2017 LS 460 F-sport, instead of going to the LS 500.
Yea my friend it seems to be all over the place with wind noise some models have it some don't. Some viewers said that the higher trim LS models like Luxury trims don't seem to suffer from wind noise but it is strange for sure
Only just got around to seeing this great review/post. Any updates on your air suspension? Because I’d prefer that option but read so many comments about issues. Any other tips you have as of today? Any issues with the control arms etc?? Cheers 🍻👍
@@dibaz1 I've owned my 2010 Lexus LS460 for seven years now, and still driving it daily. I've clocked 75K miles so far and only needs oil change, battery, tires and brakes maintenance. I didn't have control arm issue. I would definitely prefer air suspension to the regular steel spring suspension. I think the newer 2016 or 2017 Lexus LS460 would be a better choice over the 2010-2012 generation. I heard leaky coolant, control arm issue are some of the common reported problems of the 2008-2012 era. But the newer Lexus are more expensive to repair or replace. Back in 2019, I had a crack on my front windscreen, Safety Glass, quoted a mere $1000 original factory parts price if I had to replace the entire front windscreen. But a 2017 Honda Civic or newer Subaru Legacy with a lane keeping would cost upto $2000 plus $500 calibration! I end up having my insurance company paying just $50 for the tiny crack repair. One note, last year September, 3 weeks after oil change by my mechanic ( non lexus dealer ) whom I've used for six years, I heard the AC fan was working really hard and loud. I didn't pay much attention, soon after while driving on highway, the display shows engine overheat warning and asked me to pull over. I noticed the coolant was below min mark, so I filled it to the max. After filling the coolant tank every 2 weeks for 2 months and took it on a long road trip, the low engine oil light warning appeared. I had to drive to nearby hardware store and buy two 5 quant containers to fill up the empty engine tank! Despite these, my Lexus survived and engine still running strong...I think the mechanic must have forgotten to fill in fresh engine oil after draining the old one away! As for the coolant, I never had to fill up as often anymore but there might be a tiny pinhole leak somewhere. So a Lexus is a Lexus, it is built to last. If I were you, and prefer an older lexus ls460...I would be careful to look how many previous owners, how often the car changed hands, if the vehicle is regularly serviced and never miss important service schedule.
Love my 2010 LS460. I don't notice the wind noise though. My brakes do have a noticable sounds to them when coming to a completely stop, regardless of the age/condition of the brakes/rotors. Keep up the good work and his us with some new content!
Man, I really need to drive an LS430 one of these days just to see what the hype is about. On new asphalt, my LS460 is so quiet and smooth its almost weird feeling, I honestly cant imagine what a quieter or smoother car would be like. Ive also heard the LS600h is on the same level as the 430....up there with the Rolls Royce Phantom as far as cabin serenity and decibel levels.
I have a 2005 LS 430 purchased certified used in 2011 with 32K miles she now has 146K and she still turns me on🤗 I love highway driving where it’s such a joy letting the V8 run.
I'm an 8 year owner of the 2016 LS430 and was so impressed and pleased with the reliability, luxury and tech I am purchasing a 2017 LS460 and my mind is about to be blown! (Which brought me to your channel, great video!) I choose the Obsidian exterior with a all black everything interior. Kid at Christmas over here !!!
I've owned a 2017 LS460 for almost a year. I have also owned 4 Mercedes Benz over the years. I love the car, but it does have the most creaky suspension and brake pedal of any car I've had. The dealership, however claim to never hear the noises. I do not have the wind noise you're referring to.
Another great review for my favorite car! If it wasn't for all my friends and family buying a LS460 I would have one as well! Pearl white with 22 inch wheels! Keep up the great work.
I have 2017 f-sport 460 and don't have any wind noise.I sold my F-Sport Gs-350 which was great but 460 a couple levels better.The Gs had problem with trunk springs and Lexus told me live with it since new springs would break in few monthsThanks for review!!!
I am not aware of any wind noise in my 2015. The beauty with a LS is the backseat, particularly with the L version which you can hardly feel any bumps. Personally I still prefer my older LS 430 for daily commuting because the way a 460 rides is nowhere close to how smooth and quiet its predecessor can offer. It is in fact a wise choice to avoid air suspension. Last year, I got an air strut replaced under warranty which could have costed $1k each. I recommend strongly everyone to invest in an extended warranty, which will "pay off itself" if you are so unlucky enough to come across with the need to deal with $$$$ repairs such as the height compressor ($3000!! no joke) >> Another reason to run away from air suspension. As for the leather quality, they do not resist to ageing as those in older Lexuses. Cracks have started to developed in my 2015. I have heard that the factory offers complimentary replacement of worn out parts like the dashboard, door panels and of course, the front seats for earlier 460s (pre-2010). I hope they will extend the courtesy to newer 460s too. Can't comment on the rear seats because I seldom have anyone in the back but it is noteworthy that the backseat of my 430 still holds up pretty well! My advice is to stay away from the LWB (usually loaded with more options) unless you have a chauffeur! The more toys you have, the deeper your pocket will be robbed! Other than the aggressive headlight, spindle grill and taillights which are 100% subjective in terms of aesthetics, I don't see how a 500 stands out from a 460. First, I am never a fan of the twin-turbo thing. Second, wood trim of the steering wheel now becomes an added $500 option. In addition, the touchpad in 500s is even more annoying than the mouse in 460s. Perhaps there are improvements in the coming 2021 model but the above is a summary of my experience after test-driving a 2019.
@@TheChocolateChampme to, I want a 460 but trying to get lwb with the massage feature in the back but having a hard time finding one!! I’m in Dallas TX
@@DeathhAngel1I’ve reading some horror stories about the Kia engine’s having major problems and not being repaired even under warranty 🤷🏼♂️ Mountains of engine’s stored up until they can figure out what’s going on….
Last year I bought from copart 2014 ls460 AWD 117k miles with rebuilt title of course it’cost around $17K till now and I am so glad and happy with it 😂😂
I ordered a LS 500 2018 ( V6 ) my previous vehicle was a 2006 Gs430 ( V8 ) .I have no wind noises and the 416 horse power is all I need in the new car . My problem is Staying within the speed limit 😁
Get ready for years of trouble free service from your LS. I have a 12 LS, with 179,000 miles and no problems ever. It still mint condition. Of course, I take care of it with routine maintenance
Great video ... however you don’t “whip” a LS460 around or gun the engine off the line every go. You just cruise in it..I’ve had the 07 LS460.. now the 15 LS460 They fixed the control arm issue on the car from the 2012 - present. They make the v8 for the big suv 470 etc .. great video word of advice like my Granpa told me “ drive like your old” your car will Love you for it. Great car great video
Great review of a great car. Absolutely love the sound of that V8 engine. At my work I had a Land Cruiser V8s but they sounded pretty bland, also because it was an armored version. Soon we gonna have times with tiny engines and electric cars, so might the last chance to buy what a real car should be! :) Have and had Mercedes (the E-series, W212, has been very reliable but the ML spent more time in repair shops than the road). Next car going to be a Lexus for sure.
In comparison a mint condition ls430 is about the same price even more expensive than a mint ls460 from 2007-2010. Was super close to getting a 460 but I’m glad I got the 430!
Love your comment about the Genesis G90- haha. I’m crushed b/c some nimrod made an unprotected left turn in front of me causing an accident - totaled my ‘08 LS460 I bought new. This video has me thinking I need to turn on the search for a 2017 LS….thank you so much!!
Luv my 15 ls 460l awd executive package very rare I’m never selling will be a classic 20yrs from now the last of the v 8 test drive ls 500 hated the twin turbo v6
No, never heard the wind noise. I own 2 of this exact same 2017 model and trim. 1st stolen and found and totaled. Now the 2nd is preowned, very hard to find a good one. Both dead silent and silk smooth.
I’ve never had a big issue with wind noise in my LS460 it could have something to do with buffeting around the wing mirrors as that can cause whistling or an increase in wind noise it could also be attributed to the door trim around the windows but that’s really all I could think of for it
I have a 2013 LS and I haven’t noticed any wind noise. I love love love my LS, but I have an itch for a LC 500. I would be getting rid of my LS for the LC. I know you have a LC and with your experience with LS do you think I would regret getting rid of my LS? Also could you fit a person in backseat of a LC?
2017 was the ultimate year for the LS... the new and updated 12.3inch screen software along with the v8 and old but classy body style. My dream would be a 2017 LS460L with the adaptive headlights (triple projectors not shown on this model in the video) and full backseat package. Great videos man, keep pumping them out.
Dam Kev the lexus freaks came out for this one! 🤣🤣. I just got an 09 LS but I'll probably eventually get the 17 when I'm bored of it. I can't imagine the tt v6 being as pleasurable as the v8. You're right about the wind noise though.. my ls is whisper quiet outside of that. Sucks that they didn't fix it this gen
Haha yea gotta give the fans what they want. Nice I like how timeless the 09 LS is that car will never be dated in terms of looks. The 17 is a nice upgrade for sure and you're right the smoothness of the V8 cannot be replicated in the TT V6. I've heard from some viewers that the higher trim LS models don't suffer from the wind noise issue which is strange but might be true
@@MeynMotorGroup good to know. I'd like to eventually get the L or 600h. I got 4 years of warranty left on the 09 so hopefully by then the prices come down
wind noise just needs the rubber to soften up, start applying a light coat of vaseline or some good rubber preservative. It might takes several treatments, but it works. Had the exact issue on my 2007 LS 460L...gone now and ultra quiet....BOL!!
This my exact car. Same color and everything! I do get some wind noise from the driver side but nothing major. The dealer calls all the time trying to buy it back but I’ll never sell
Have had two Lexus sedans; in neither of them was there any appreciable wind/road noise at any reasonable speed. They are among the quietest cars on the road--at any price. Not sure what he's talking about as far as wind noise...could be drug use.
I think it’s possible the Lexus you’re in may have had its driver side door unlocked with an air bladder. My GS went from silent to loud after that event for me, and my 13 LS460L is tomb quiet at 120k miles.
I still think the GS350 F sport still looks better in the Lexus sedan line up. Even though this has a v8, the v6 in the GS is just as fast. Interior is very similar to the GS as well.
Watched while my 2010 LS 460 Sport is in for a checkup: brake pads and tires need attention. Your review persuades me that everything good about this LS has been preserved and likely improved to a some small degree. Mine has relatively low milage for its age reflecting my retirement and cessation of commuting and long trips to northern islands. Should I ever have to give up what I have, it looks as if the 2017 or the 2016 with low milage still would be the way to go. Over time, though, I worry that competant maintenance and parts might become hard to find.
Another 1st class review, something tells me Danny is going to get a call on this car pretty soon after this goes out. The v8 sounds glorious. Did you feel much of a difference in performance between this one and the 2013?
Thank you very much my friend! V8 is epic and actually this drives identical to the 2013. I've heard from some viewers that higher trim or specs LS cars are quieter than these base models apparently
Hi Kevin, on the market for an LS 460 since watching your videos. What range on the odometer should i be looking for is 50k okay? Also which years should i be looking for? 2015-17? Ill appreciate any advice you give me!
@@8651102ed I also waiting for Stingers and G90s to further depreciate as I make my choice between used luxury cars for the next decade. I don't need a car. I can wait for the right deal. I liked the very simple style of the pre-spindle grill LS460.
That package without the mark levinson is a definite minus. not a fan of stock stereos. Lexus has that ML for a purpose .. it’s head and shoulders above standard radio
I love my 15 crafted line f sport I purchased with a salvage title was a obvious insurance job claimed water damage I rolled the dice got it in 18 saving me 14 grand never looked back and I love it so far only problem was front air strut is making noise but that was human error I hit a whole busted my tire car is awesome awd a beast in the snow definitely a great car
I don't see how Lexus thinks a V6 twin-turbo flagship can compete with the twin-turbo V8 flagships from the Germans. The new LS now seems to be dialed down a notch competing with the E class and 5 series especially since the GS is gone. Lexus needs to wake up and stop this idea that they can be a premier luxury brand by pumping out more and more FWD crossovers and small/weak engines.
Well TT V6 wasn't ever supposed to compete with TT V8s it was supposed to compete with V6 offerings from the Germans, S450, 740i, Base A8 V6. LS500 Produces over 100 hp more than these cars that was Lexus' target market
@@MeynMotorGroup Right that engine does compete with the German 6 bangers but then again its barely faster than any of them even with the HP/TQ advantage. My point is that Lexus made a mistake by not offering a 500+HP V8 to compete with the V8s from the Germans.
Idk if they actually will make that TT V8 some say they will but others say it won't happen. Either way the population of people that can actually afford a $150,000 TT V8 500-600 HP vehicle is less than 1% so i guess it doesn't really make much business sense for them
It's just a sticker...every dealership does it..except around here Johnson is a prestigious dealer so people don't mind having that sticker/license plate on their cars
Anyway i like the grilles on the Lexus sedans, I think it fits well. But on the suvs not so much, especially on the lx looks way too over styled. Rx right at where I draw the line, I currently own one.
That's understandable many hate the grill altogether no matter what vehicle it is on I like the character and aggressiveness of their grill. RX has a very distinctive appearance due to it!
The Genesis G90 fills this segment for those that want a V8....but dont want to spend( or have the budget) for the high performance twin turbo V8 German sedans
@@MeynMotorGroup I dont think the Lexus LS is exactly flying off the shelves In 2020 Lexus sold 3600 of them in the United States Hyundai( Genesis) sold 2000 G90's I would assume the majority of those were the 6 cylinder twin turbo version versus the V8 Meanwhile...Mercedes sold 8500 S class cars. A much higher priced car that has been on the market unchanged for 6 years and in its last year of production
Don’t have any air sound on my 2014 LS460F. And I certainly notice the air suspension at sport ++. and yes I have put in 25/26 hwy mpg avg 80/mph going to LV. I didn’t know that drag co efficient was that low.
I first watched the (08 460 or close) video you did. I just missed out on a 08 with 137k but i might get a 2016 f sport version someone else was selling(they posted it and removed it twice) they said it's hard to part with it, (which i understand) Got about 150k miles. He is not posting it anymore and he's going to send me the Carfax. I may be able to get it for 18.5k ( I'm in northern CA.) What are your thoughts? I've owned the 07 is350 (loved it) besides the space factor and I really love the is-f & the gs-f are my first choice but can't get one for a reasonable price with clean title - I'll only buy clean - My question is - is the 2016 much better in your opinion than the 08? I was super bummed when I lost out on the 08 ( it was owned by older couple that took excellent care of it. I'd be paying about 10k more for the 2016. Should I just wait for the right gs 350 to come along? Or pull the trigger on the 2016? What do you think?? I really like your videos man. I am a subscriber😊 Keep up the good work!
The 2016 LS is truly an epic vehicle I understand your yearning for wanting to buy that car. I will however caution you this is a flagship luxury car and outside of a warranty, this will be very expensive when it comes to repairs and maintenance. If you can afford it so be it but if not, the ES and RX might be a better choice and still great driving machines. Here's a full buyer's guide video I did on the LS: ruclips.net/video/gr38jTmlZ5U/видео.html Also, please keep in mind this is a overinflated used car market with high interest rates, considering a new refined car might be worth it as well. Thank you for your kind words and support, God Bless!
Love your reviews! My bud that works at Lexus of Orlando told me to keep my 17 LS460L and to pass on LS500 until the totally new ones come out in 2023. Says 500 is cheapened and less luxurious and corners cut. This puts me in a quandary. My 17 LS460L has 25,000 Certified Program miles and a joy. Should I keep her and wait? I am counting on your input, please. Thanks, Bob in Vero Beach, FL.
So that noise from the driver side window is something that you just going to have to live with because it's it's in every car it's in my Lexus when I get up to a certain speed I hear this mild whistling coming from the window I actually think mine is coming from the windshield I think that's in every Lexus except for the LS 500 I haven't heard it in that yet
Well from that concept you can have 2 cylinder with 15 turbos and get the same result. The point of a V8 is not sheer numbers if you want numbers EV cars have combustion cars beat 100x over. The silky smoothness and the sound a V8 will never be replicated by V6 or 4 cylinder turbo cars its not something a spec sheet can explain 😉
The wind noise!!! So I own a 16 LS460L executive pkge - I purchased at 22k certified from Lexus. No road or wind noise at all. Ever. Once I hit 60kish I noticed a lot of wind noise from drivers front window. After looking into it I found the window molding up in the drivers front window in the corner next to the mirror was deforming and starting to wither away. Wiggled it back to place and went silent again. Brought to lexus and had them replace drivers front window molding (not covered as a wear an tear item) whatever 200 bucks later and problem solved perfectly until it withers away again lmao..
So hope that helps!
This is epic thank you for sharing this!
I’m gonna look into this. Thanks
You got a 2016 executive LS CPO for 22k?? Holy shit
I think he was referring to the mileage haha 😄 but $22k would have been epic
@@LilRick96 I think he mean 22k Miles.
The Last V8 Samurai.
That is accurate my friend
We have a 08 LS460 and we absolutely love it a lot so thankful we got it
One time I was going 80 in a 55 and thought I was going the speed limit. The LS is a mind blowing car, especially for the first time.
For sure 👍
Even though it’s a V-8 and I know that’s not really much of a gas saver but how was your miles per gallon? Did you had to add gas every week?
@@anthonyromero3828 you’d be surprised, you can get 30 mpg on the highway
I get 30 miles per gallon
@@kgisabeastThat‘s it I’m buying Lexus that’s is very good for a V8 even 4 cylinder turbo Mercedes-Benz don’t get that good MPG
Although the electronics and gauges are outmoded and the joy stick still there. I bought her Certified Pre-Owned last summer and Lexus refused to give me or install Apple Car Play. Cheap solution? Got a knock-off cupholder insert cell phone holder for $19 and let Siri guide me through bluetooth. Keep the LS reviews coming! I can't handle in and out of SUVs due to knee and hip surgery, nor a Corvette etc. LS460Ls are fabulous if you can find one, apparently owners are hanging on to them. Back seat passengers often fall asleep, a compliment.
Love my 2014 LS460 F-Sport with 43k miles, had a few more issues than my 1999 LS400, but still a wolf in sheep's clothing. I take it out and let it stretch its legs twice a month. My daily workhorse is my 2011 Tacoma/TRD trim with 51K. Great video and the props for Lexus/Toyota.
Man, I miss the v8 Lses
Yea it really added to the character of the car
I just bought a 2017 LS it had the option with all black interior even the headliner all black suede. It’s one of the nicest cars I’ve ever owned. I get compliments every where I go.
As for squeaks and whistles, not to be confused with rattle noises, I’ve found silicone cleaning of tracks and rubber is key maintenance that resolves such noise issues.
If I were in the market for a LS 460 this would be it I hate downsized engines
This car is very impressive in terms of smoothness
It’s not bad better gas mileage more power
@@Brofessor17 I've test driven the new 500 with the twin turbo V-6. It's very smooth--there's no V-6 smoother or more refined than the one Lexus makes--but it's not a V-8. You'd think that Lexus would have at least offered the GSF's 5.0 liter naturally aspirated V-8 in the LS500.
@@wanyelewis9667 yea I was kinda suprised the 2UR-GSE (5.0 liter dual overhead cam engine) which was first put in the isf. The rcf I drive is kinda has clunky single clutch trans but with an armytrix valvetronic exhaust it sounds great.
I once owned a 2008 LS600hl that I bought used in 2011. I too, had experienced wind noise on my driver side, luckily I bought it as a certified pre-owned and with extended warranty. Glad you had suggested both points to your viewers, because repairs on ultra luxury car using genuine parts by authorized dealer can be expensive on newer cars. The dealer sent my car in for a test drive by Lexus noise engineer and they finally did a replacement of windows sills. After which, wind noise is much improved and acceptable on highway. I think the earlier 2000's LS 460 models which don't have acoustic noise insulation front windows and windshield will have some kind of noise. In 2016, I bought my current 2010 LS 460 with air suspension, ride is much better controlled and doesn't has the pillow soft, bouncy ride and body roll of a boat compared to the regular steel suspension of LS 460 ( which I happened to test drive before choosing one with air suspension ).
I've enjoyed your video reviews of current LS 500 and LC 500, surprised to know the LS 500 F-sport is quieter without the wind noise compared to the regular LS 500. I think at some point, I might change to a 2016 or 2017 LS 460 F-sport, instead of going to the LS 500.
Yea my friend it seems to be all over the place with wind noise some models have it some don't. Some viewers said that the higher trim LS models like Luxury trims don't seem to suffer from wind noise but it is strange for sure
Only just got around to seeing this great review/post.
Any updates on your air suspension? Because I’d prefer that option but read so many comments about issues.
Any other tips you have as of today?
Any issues with the control arms etc??
Cheers 🍻👍
@@dibaz1 I've owned my 2010 Lexus LS460 for seven years now, and still driving it daily. I've clocked 75K miles so far and only needs oil change, battery, tires and brakes maintenance. I didn't have control arm issue. I would definitely prefer air suspension to the regular steel spring suspension. I think the newer 2016 or 2017 Lexus LS460 would be a better choice over the 2010-2012 generation. I heard leaky coolant, control arm issue are some of the common reported problems of the 2008-2012 era. But the newer Lexus are more expensive to repair or replace. Back in 2019, I had a crack on my front windscreen, Safety Glass, quoted a mere $1000 original factory parts price if I had to replace the entire front windscreen. But a 2017 Honda Civic or newer Subaru Legacy with a lane keeping would cost upto $2000 plus $500 calibration! I end up having my insurance company paying just $50 for the tiny crack repair.
One note, last year September, 3 weeks after oil change by my mechanic ( non lexus dealer ) whom I've used for six years, I heard the AC fan was working really hard and loud. I didn't pay much attention, soon after while driving on highway, the display shows engine overheat warning and asked me to pull over. I noticed the coolant was below min mark, so I filled it to the max. After filling the coolant tank every 2 weeks for 2 months and took it on a long road trip, the low engine oil light warning appeared. I had to drive to nearby hardware store and buy two 5 quant containers to fill up the empty engine tank! Despite these, my Lexus survived and engine still running strong...I think the mechanic must have forgotten to fill in fresh engine oil after draining the old one away! As for the coolant, I never had to fill up as often anymore but there might be a tiny pinhole leak somewhere. So a Lexus is a Lexus, it is built to last. If I were you, and prefer an older lexus ls460...I would be careful to look how many previous owners, how often the car changed hands, if the vehicle is regularly serviced and never miss important service schedule.
Love my 2010 LS460. I don't notice the wind noise though. My brakes do have a noticable sounds to them when coming to a completely stop, regardless of the age/condition of the brakes/rotors. Keep up the good work and his us with some new content!
Driving around in a brick of butter wow bro the best way of putting that smooth feel I ever heard 👍🏾👍🏾 and feeling like a pimp lol 🤝😎
Love this gen LS after the facelift. That engine tuned revs all the way out to 7500 rpm and sounds absolutely glorious!
For sure the motor is epic!
I Love your reviews. I’ve owned the 2015 LS460 and a 2005 LS430. IMO the LS430 is quieter (quiet engine and no wind noise) and rides softer.
Man, I really need to drive an LS430 one of these days just to see what the hype is about. On new asphalt, my LS460 is so quiet and smooth its almost weird feeling, I honestly cant imagine what a quieter or smoother car would be like. Ive also heard the LS600h is on the same level as the 430....up there with the Rolls Royce Phantom as far as cabin serenity and decibel levels.
I have a 2005 LS 430 purchased certified used in 2011 with 32K miles she now has 146K and she still turns me on🤗 I love highway driving where it’s such a joy letting the V8 run.
I'm an 8 year owner of the 2016 LS430 and was so impressed and pleased with the reliability, luxury and tech I am purchasing a 2017 LS460 and my mind is about to be blown! (Which brought me to your channel, great video!) I choose the Obsidian exterior with a all black everything interior. Kid at Christmas over here !!!
How do you own a 5 year old car for 8 years bro.
@@amirmeiti 💀💀
@@amirmeiti pretty sure it’s a typo. I think he meant 2006. No such thing as a 2016 LS 430.
@@amirmeiti 😄
i still remember a few years back 15-16 i saw the new LS... holy cow it looked like a damn Big baller mobile
haha same I saw one in red and it was unbelievable to me
I've owned a 2017 LS460 for almost a year. I have also owned 4 Mercedes Benz over the years. I love the car, but it does have the most creaky suspension and brake pedal of any car I've had. The dealership, however claim to never hear the noises.
I do not have the wind noise you're referring to.
Another great review for my favorite car! If it wasn't for all my friends and family buying a LS460 I would have one as well! Pearl white with 22 inch wheels! Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much my friend!
V8 or GTFO. You cant replace a V8 with a twin turbo-V6, it’s not the same thing.
Haha yea I agree with that. I think Lexus did a good job with the TT V6 I like the motor the silkiness of this V8 can't be replicated
@@MeynMotorGroup as they say...there’s no replacement for displacement 😉
Haha facts!
Facts!
agreed!
Definitely like a BMW 7 series but with a layer of butter 🧈 👌🔥 LS 460 is where it’s at.
This body style still looks good to me. Thanks for the video!!
Hey thanks for watching!
Great Review! I really enjoyed. I just bought a 2014 LS 460 L with 38k miles. Loving it!! Thank you!
Massive congrats my friend!
I have 2017 f-sport 460 and don't have any wind noise.I sold my F-Sport Gs-350 which was great but 460 a couple levels better.The Gs had problem with trunk springs and Lexus told me live with it since new springs would break in few monthsThanks for review!!!
I have driven these LS 1995-2015 all of them are the best cars ever.
I am not aware of any wind noise in my 2015. The beauty with a LS is the backseat, particularly with the L version which you can hardly feel any bumps. Personally I still prefer my older LS 430 for daily commuting because the way a 460 rides is nowhere close to how smooth and quiet its predecessor can offer. It is in fact a wise choice to avoid air suspension. Last year, I got an air strut replaced under warranty which could have costed $1k each. I recommend strongly everyone to invest in an extended warranty, which will "pay off itself" if you are so unlucky enough to come across with the need to deal with $$$$ repairs such as the height compressor ($3000!! no joke) >> Another reason to run away from air suspension.
As for the leather quality, they do not resist to ageing as those in older Lexuses. Cracks have started to developed in my 2015. I have heard that the factory offers complimentary replacement of worn out parts like the dashboard, door panels and of course, the front seats for earlier 460s (pre-2010). I hope they will extend the courtesy to newer 460s too. Can't comment on the rear seats because I seldom have anyone in the back but it is noteworthy that the backseat of my 430 still holds up pretty well! My advice is to stay away from the LWB (usually loaded with more options) unless you have a chauffeur! The more toys you have, the deeper your pocket will be robbed!
Other than the aggressive headlight, spindle grill and taillights which are 100% subjective in terms of aesthetics, I don't see how a 500 stands out from a 460. First, I am never a fan of the twin-turbo thing. Second, wood trim of the steering wheel now becomes an added $500 option. In addition, the touchpad in 500s is even more annoying than the mouse in 460s. Perhaps there are improvements in the coming 2021 model but the above is a summary of my experience after test-driving a 2019.
Wow so you think the 430 is better than the 460? I'm on the fence on which one to get.
@@TheChocolateChamp get a hyundai equus or genesis, both offer the same package as the ls460 for cheaper.
@@DeathhAngel1 ok I'll look into it
@@TheChocolateChampme to, I want a 460 but trying to get lwb with the massage feature in the back but having a hard time finding one!!
I’m in Dallas TX
@@DeathhAngel1I’ve reading some horror stories about the Kia engine’s having major problems and not being repaired even under warranty 🤷🏼♂️
Mountains of engine’s stored up until they can figure out what’s going on….
Last year I bought from copart 2014 ls460 AWD 117k miles with rebuilt title of course it’cost around $17K till now and I am so glad and happy with it 😂😂
Gotta love this dude's personality! 😆 Keep going bro! 👊
Haha thank you my friend
I ordered a LS 500 2018 ( V6 ) my previous vehicle was a 2006 Gs430 ( V8 ) .I have no wind noises and the 416 horse power is all I need in the new car . My problem is Staying within the speed limit 😁
Love your honest reviews. I've been watching them for a while now..👍
Thanks!
These large luxury sedans look like cars for a king
That's def true fit for a king
Salute to "BMW agility w/ a layer of butter.."
Long live the naturally aspirated V8 RWD flagship whip!
Haha 😄 yes Indeed long live
I also own a 2017 Ls460 with 58k miles on it currently .
Purchased it with 23k miles , not one issue since.
Get ready for years of trouble free service from your LS. I have a 12 LS, with 179,000 miles and no problems ever. It still mint condition. Of course, I take care of it with routine maintenance
Great video ... however you don’t “whip” a LS460 around or gun the engine off the line every go. You just cruise in it..I’ve had the 07 LS460.. now the 15 LS460
They fixed the control arm issue on the car from the 2012 - present. They make the v8 for the big suv 470 etc .. great video word of advice like my Granpa told me “ drive like your old” your car will Love you for it. Great car great video
Great review of a great car. Absolutely love the sound of that V8 engine. At my work I had a Land Cruiser V8s but they sounded pretty bland, also because it was an armored version. Soon we gonna have times with tiny engines and electric cars, so might the last chance to buy what a real car should be! :) Have and had Mercedes (the E-series, W212, has been very reliable but the ML spent more time in repair shops than the road). Next car going to be a Lexus for sure.
I love my 2014 lexus LS460L with 53k mi. I don't think it would be worth getting a 2017.
No same car
In comparison a mint condition ls430 is about the same price even more expensive than a mint ls460 from 2007-2010. Was super close to getting a 460 but I’m glad I got the 430!
Love your comment about the Genesis G90- haha. I’m crushed b/c some nimrod made an unprotected left turn in front of me causing an accident - totaled my ‘08 LS460 I bought new. This video has me thinking I need to turn on the search for a 2017 LS….thank you so much!!
Luv my 15 ls 460l awd executive package very rare I’m never selling will be a classic 20yrs from now the last of the v 8 test drive ls 500 hated the twin turbo v6
Very nice my friend!
Love your background music at the end.
Haha thank you my friend!
No, never heard the wind noise. I own 2 of this exact same 2017 model and trim. 1st stolen and found and totaled. Now the 2nd is preowned, very hard to find a good one. Both dead silent and silk smooth.
I’ve never had a big issue with wind noise in my LS460 it could have something to do with buffeting around the wing mirrors as that can cause whistling or an increase in wind noise it could also be attributed to the door trim around the windows but that’s really all I could think of for it
I love your review on lexus cars keep up the good work
I have a 2013 LS and I haven’t noticed any wind noise. I love love love my LS, but I have an itch for a LC 500. I would be getting rid of my LS for the LC. I know you have a LC and with your experience with LS do you think I would regret getting rid of my LS? Also could you fit a person in backseat of a LC?
2017 was the ultimate year for the LS... the new and updated 12.3inch screen software along with the v8 and old but classy body style.
My dream would be a 2017 LS460L with the adaptive headlights (triple projectors not shown on this model in the video) and full backseat package.
Great videos man, keep pumping them out.
I agree! And I think the higher trims that you are speaking of are much quieter as well!
Agreed, I can't find a 2016-2017 luxury tech package with the rear entertainment option for the kids to enjoy
Love the 460 but damn they are pricey to fix and harder to fix, going to stick with my ls430 🥰
Dam Kev the lexus freaks came out for this one! 🤣🤣. I just got an 09 LS but I'll probably eventually get the 17 when I'm bored of it. I can't imagine the tt v6 being as pleasurable as the v8. You're right about the wind noise though.. my ls is whisper quiet outside of that. Sucks that they didn't fix it this gen
Haha yea gotta give the fans what they want. Nice I like how timeless the 09 LS is that car will never be dated in terms of looks. The 17 is a nice upgrade for sure and you're right the smoothness of the V8 cannot be replicated in the TT V6.
I've heard from some viewers that the higher trim LS models don't suffer from the wind noise issue which is strange but might be true
@@MeynMotorGroup good to know. I'd like to eventually get the L or 600h. I got 4 years of warranty left on the 09 so hopefully by then the prices come down
Oh nice yea might as well keep til the warranty runs out. Man 600hl is incredible, rare but if you can find one, those are surreal
Yes my LS definitely makes noise from the window when driving. I thought it was just my car
wind noise just needs the rubber to soften up, start applying a light coat of vaseline or some good rubber preservative. It might takes several treatments, but it works. Had the exact issue on my 2007 LS 460L...gone now and ultra quiet....BOL!!
I got one!!! Love it!!!! It’s a superb car! I don’t have any problems with the wind noise!!! Good video
The new Lexus LS should have the 4.8 V10 with twin turbos option.
I honestly think it should have a V16
@@MeynMotorGroup bruh wtf 😂
Lololol 😂 big boy V16 quadruple turbos on top for good measure too
@@MeynMotorGroup heck, just put a Rolls-Royce Merlin in it!
This my exact car. Same color and everything! I do get some wind noise from the driver side but nothing major. The dealer calls all the time trying to buy it back but I’ll never sell
Have had two Lexus sedans; in neither of them was there any appreciable wind/road noise at any reasonable speed. They are among the quietest cars on the road--at any price. Not sure what he's talking about as far as wind noise...could be drug use.
I think it’s possible the Lexus you’re in may have had its driver side door unlocked with an air bladder. My GS went from silent to loud after that event for me, and my 13 LS460L is tomb quiet at 120k miles.
I still think the GS350 F sport still looks better in the Lexus sedan line up. Even though this has a v8, the v6 in the GS is just as fast.
Interior is very similar to the GS as well.
I think so too
I think a Rear wheel 🛞 drive GS-350 is faster than the AWD ls460………
Watched while my 2010 LS 460 Sport is in for a checkup: brake pads and tires need attention. Your review persuades me that everything good about this LS has been preserved and likely improved to a some small degree. Mine has relatively low milage for its age reflecting my retirement and cessation of commuting and long trips to northern islands. Should I ever have to give up what I have, it looks as if the 2017 or the 2016 with low milage still would be the way to go. Over time, though, I worry that competant maintenance and parts might become hard to find.
Those big body sedans bro 🥰 lol 👍🏾👍🏾
My favorite class of car!
@@MeynMotorGroup Big Facts mines as well u already know bro lol 🤝😎👍🏾👍🏾
Def bro!
Awesome review
Thanks!
Another 1st class review, something tells me Danny is going to get a call on this car pretty soon after this goes out. The v8 sounds glorious. Did you feel much of a difference in performance between this one and the 2013?
Thank you very much my friend! V8 is epic and actually this drives identical to the 2013. I've heard from some viewers that higher trim or specs LS cars are quieter than these base models apparently
Hi Kevin, on the market for an LS 460 since watching your videos. What range on the odometer should i be looking for is 50k okay? Also which years should i be looking for? 2015-17?
Ill appreciate any advice you give me!
I have a 2014 in the same color but black interior. Love the LS460.
Nice!
This is gonna be my car is 5 years. 👍 different color though.
A tree landed on my ls430. Looking at this car right now. I am nervous to get a lemon.
try to buy one CPO or just lease a new ES 300h
Have you ever tested a 2008 - 2011 gs 350? I am interested in one and keep up the great work... 👍👍👍
I have not! That's one of the cars I really want to test
Really the sweet spot of Lexus. Amazing balance of luxury, durability, and handling for such a comfortable car.
@@StephenClarkSAC I found a 2010 in silver with black interior with a 100k on it for 10,500 and I am ready to pull the trigger.... 👌👌👌
@@8651102ed I also waiting for Stingers and G90s to further depreciate as I make my choice between used luxury cars for the next decade. I don't need a car. I can wait for the right deal. I liked the very simple style of the pre-spindle grill LS460.
@@StephenClarkSAC 👌👌👌
Now I want one Kevin, thanks great video.
Yea my friend I want one too lol
Don't blame you, I have a 2019 GS350 now but I want a LS as well. This is the perfect car for me.
That package without the mark levinson is a definite minus. not a fan of stock stereos. Lexus has that ML for a purpose .. it’s head and shoulders above standard radio
I love my 15 crafted line f sport I purchased with a salvage title was a obvious insurance job claimed water damage I rolled the dice got it in 18 saving me 14 grand never looked back and I love it so far only problem was front air strut is making noise but that was human error I hit a whole busted my tire car is awesome awd a beast in the snow definitely a great car
There is not a single LS460 from 2013-2018 for sale in Germany
Which LS 460’models does not have the air suspension, outside of 2017 version??
Absolutely beautiful car.
I don't see how Lexus thinks a V6 twin-turbo flagship can compete with the twin-turbo V8 flagships from the Germans. The new LS now seems to be dialed down a notch competing with the E class and 5 series especially since the GS is gone. Lexus needs to wake up and stop this idea that they can be a premier luxury brand by pumping out more and more FWD crossovers and small/weak engines.
Well TT V6 wasn't ever supposed to compete with TT V8s it was supposed to compete with V6 offerings from the Germans, S450, 740i, Base A8 V6. LS500 Produces over 100 hp more than these cars that was Lexus' target market
@@MeynMotorGroup Right that engine does compete with the German 6 bangers but then again its barely faster than any of them even with the HP/TQ advantage. My point is that Lexus made a mistake by not offering a 500+HP V8 to compete with the V8s from the Germans.
Idk if they actually will make that TT V8 some say they will but others say it won't happen. Either way the population of people that can actually afford a $150,000 TT V8 500-600 HP vehicle is less than 1% so i guess it doesn't really make much business sense for them
I think the 2019 still has the V8.
Nope that was ditched in 2018
All that Lexus needs is some phat 20 inch chrome wheels and you’ll be instant hood rich
😅
I can't help but notice how lame the dealership stuck their badge on the rear.
It's just a sticker...every dealership does it..except around here Johnson is a prestigious dealer so people don't mind having that sticker/license plate on their cars
Anyway i like the grilles on the Lexus sedans, I think it fits well. But on the suvs not so much, especially on the lx looks way too over styled. Rx right at where I draw the line, I currently own one.
That's understandable many hate the grill altogether no matter what vehicle it is on I like the character and aggressiveness of their grill. RX has a very distinctive appearance due to it!
I think it looks fine on the crossovers. But the GX and LX look a bit much..
The Genesis G90 fills this segment for those that want a V8....but dont want to spend( or have the budget) for the high performance twin turbo V8 German sedans
G90 is amazing but nobody will buy it
@@MeynMotorGroup
I dont think the Lexus LS is exactly flying off the shelves
In 2020 Lexus sold 3600 of them in the United States
Hyundai( Genesis) sold 2000 G90's
I would assume the majority of those were the 6 cylinder twin turbo version versus the V8
Meanwhile...Mercedes sold 8500 S class cars. A much higher priced car that has been on the market unchanged for 6 years and in its last year of production
Don’t have any air sound on my 2014 LS460F. And I certainly notice the air suspension at sport ++. and yes I have put in 25/26 hwy mpg avg 80/mph
going to LV. I didn’t know that drag co efficient was that low.
That wind noise is not common. Only for example when it’s the seal around the door. I had that issue one time and I had it fixed.
The last of the V8's??? Noooo rara!
Still finishing up on your Porsche video almost finished tho and I’m heading straight back over to watch this one I can now be up to date bro 😆 lol
Interested in hearing your thoughts on the Porsche!
@@MeynMotorGroup O I dropped a couple already bro lol
very good big premium sedan I think that the americans like it very much, I like more the Audi S8, thanks for the review Kevin.
S8 would be a monster!
@@MeynMotorGroup I hope you can drive it one day.
Are control arms still a deal with the post 2012 units?..I thought they fixed that issue
I'm not entirely sure about this generation, there are enough expensive components on this vehicle that I still wouldn't buy it without a warranty
Get the long wheelbase and your wind noise problem disappears
how?
L is with dual pane windows standard is not
Is this car still a good buy in 2021? Im looking at this car and the 2020 bmw 5 series.
I first watched the (08 460 or close) video you did. I just missed out on a 08 with 137k but i might get a 2016 f sport version someone else was selling(they posted it and removed it twice) they said it's hard to part with it, (which i understand) Got about 150k miles. He is not posting it anymore and he's going to send me the Carfax. I may be able to get it for 18.5k ( I'm in northern CA.)
What are your thoughts? I've owned the 07 is350 (loved it) besides the space factor and I really love the is-f & the gs-f are my first choice but can't get one for a reasonable price with clean title - I'll only buy clean -
My question is - is the 2016 much better in your opinion than the 08?
I was super bummed when I lost out on the 08 ( it was owned by older couple that took excellent care of it. I'd be paying about 10k more for the 2016. Should I just wait for the right gs 350 to come along? Or pull the trigger on the 2016?
What do you think??
I really like your videos man. I am a subscriber😊
Keep up the good work!
The 2016 LS is truly an epic vehicle I understand your yearning for wanting to buy that car.
I will however caution you this is a flagship luxury car and outside of a warranty, this will be very expensive when it comes to repairs and maintenance.
If you can afford it so be it but if not, the ES and RX might be a better choice and still great driving machines.
Here's a full buyer's guide video I did on the LS: ruclips.net/video/gr38jTmlZ5U/видео.html
Also, please keep in mind this is a overinflated used car market with high interest rates, considering a new refined car might be worth it as well.
Thank you for your kind words and support, God Bless!
Love your reviews! My bud that works at Lexus of Orlando told me to keep my 17 LS460L and to pass on LS500 until the totally new ones come out in 2023. Says 500 is cheapened and less luxurious and corners cut. This puts me in a quandary. My 17 LS460L has 25,000 Certified Program miles and a joy. Should I keep her and wait? I am counting on your input, please. Thanks, Bob in Vero Beach, FL.
Yea if you have a 2017 LS that is amazing you should wait
Keep your '17 LS460L. It's better than the new 500....at least for the '18-'19 model years. I've heard that the '20 & '21 are very improved though.
Keep it
What is that black bar in the front of the bumber looks so awesome is it carbon fiber
My music is always playing when I’m in the vehicle lol. I don’t ever notice the wind noise
There's a kit that they sale to reduce wind noise some seal kit 👍
My next car.
Nice!
Is it possible to switch out the drivers window for an aftermarket dual pane or acoustic window?
The last peach of a full luxury sedan
The new one I’m not sure. I hope the turbo v6 is reliable long term since Lexus made it
New car has power and a drop dead gorgeous interior but the smoothness and power delivery of this NA V8 cannot be replicated by the TT V6
@@MeynMotorGroup agreed. I also wish they had the 600hL back. It just needs to be a lot cheaper vs the v6 multistage hybrid
The 600 is incredible I only tested it in the previous body style but wow the power and smoothness was epic nothing like the LS500h
I feel the same way. I am scared of the reliability of a turbo v6 but Toyota does a great job of making sure their engines are reliable.
@@350zlover2 Not necessarily, the 2.0 turbo in the NX is known to have problems with the turbo on the early models.
I have a 2017 LS460 and I do not have ANY wind noise.
Kevin what year did Lexus improve the control arms on this model?
It’s weird you talk about wind noise, I had a 750 LI and that had virtually no wind noise, my 2016 LS 460L seems even quieter? Idk
So that noise from the driver side window is something that you just going to have to live with because it's it's in every car it's in my Lexus when I get up to a certain speed I hear this mild whistling coming from the window I actually think mine is coming from the windshield I think that's in every Lexus except for the LS 500 I haven't heard it in that yet
The V8 was nice very nice but the TTV6 destroys it in power snd torque. It doesn’t need a V8 when you have that must power and torque and saves gas.
Well from that concept you can have 2 cylinder with 15 turbos and get the same result.
The point of a V8 is not sheer numbers if you want numbers EV cars have combustion cars beat 100x over.
The silky smoothness and the sound a V8 will never be replicated by V6 or 4 cylinder turbo cars its not something a spec sheet can explain 😉
Is that atomic silver or liquid platinum silver?
no wind noise ... 2015 LS460L 20,000 miles liquid plat
Do you know if you have a higher trim level vehicle? Apparently the upper trims are much quieter according to some viewers
@@MeynMotorGroup awd ML .....had 2008 with noticeable wind noise as you described .....
I have a 2017 Ls460... I found the wind noise is coming from the pass through hole in the rear seat.... It has to be shut tightly...
wow