When it comes to music like this, you don't count. In the early years, I bet they did a lot of that, but nowdays, they are so used to it, so they do not have to count anymore. They feel it. :) That said, it is kind of ironic that he looses count of scoops of coffee. :)
trillriff-axegrinder Makes sense, in the simplest terms, if you have 4 measures of 5/4, it's pretty much the same as 5 measures of 4/4. Depends on the phrasing of the riff.
gredangeo I mean...I unfortunately learned how to play drums by ear and never learned how to count time sigs...but it doesn't hinder my playing really because like someone mentioned you can memorize the restart time by feel...I kinda think counting can mess me up more than anything because my brain is focusing on counting rather then the overall pattern...just my 2 cent :)
he has a (VERY!) slight accent. he kinda lengthens the "o" when be makes the "or" sound like in 'for' or 'recording'. i know a few people from the Minnesota/North Dakota area and they do the exact same thing
+Gibbstronic A lot of Swedes speak flawless English. Ebeeto (gamer), Max Von Sydow (actor) or Alicia VIkander (actress), are all Swedes and I didn't know it for a long time.
I see you on every damn Meshuggah video haha god damn you're just as obsessed as I am
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"We have no guidelines. We do whatever sounds Good. It could be soft, hard, slow or faster. There are no Rules, Really. We have no clue How we do it.. We just write Music." I will always listen to this band!
There's something pleasingly Nordic about the way they all quietly get on with writing stuff on their own rather than constantly firing ideas at each other.
You're right. They are very peaceful and not egocentric, they respect each other, and all try to do their best to contribute to the overall album. What a brilliant team they are. No wonder they have been around so long.
I think they wanted to do that sort of recording for years, but they always ended up in a situation where it was faster/easer/less costly to go down the computer-centric recording scheme. With Violent Sleep of Reason, they were in a position where they actually could do a live recording for the album with a proper engineer. This choice has very little to do with tone, but rather that they've realized that, going down the computer-centric recording, allows you to become absolutely perfect. It generates someting that is almost artificial, and they wanted to come much closer to how they actually sound live which has a lot of energy, despite minor misstakes here and there. I am pretty sure they are still writing music the way this documentary shows, it is just that when all songs are done, they rehearse them for a while and then get into the studio to record live. I really hope they will continue to do that, because Violent Sleep of Reason is, to me, one of their best albums to date!
I would love to hear a totally ambient soundscape project by them. I've always enjoyed the softer moments of Meshuggah, with that inimitable guitar...very emotive, and terribly spacious
I wish a game company would sign them to do a Doom soundtrack or Diablo....they have so many interesting sounds within there songs it's mysterious yet reaches in and brings out chills. Love it
Just discovered this band recently after hearing the comedian, Bill Burr, talk about seeing their show. Un-freakin'-believable, complex, beautiful music. Never thought I'd say that about Metal, but now I am a believer.
I’ve seen them live twice, here in Australia, and it’s funny hearing bill burr’s comments years later and most definitely being a very similar experience when I saw them where majority of the crowd are in awe that it is being played live, as well as the muso’s and fans seriously watching and bopping their heads haha. Freakin tight as they were, it’s ridiculous, both times, how flawless they and their sound was. So so good. I’ve been a fan since 00’. Welcome :) check out Car Bomb also.
333plus333 being able to play something that is already written perfectly is a lot different than being able to write music that is similar in quality. I think he meant replaceable in terms of writing songs, rather than just performing them.
If you don't feel as shit as the drummer after a set, you're not doing vocals right. It's one of the most physical roles in the band dude, your whole torso is involved in it. Replacing a vocalist with another good and actually PROFESSIONAL vocalist is as hard as any other member.
marten hagstrom is the same way, very interesting isnt it? not sure why but some scandinavians have this ability and others dont, tho they all do speak english very well from what iv seen
It makes me a little sad to see Marten say they can't really do everything they want. Guys like these, some of the greatest musicians, incredible innovators, and leaders in musicianship and composition, should have so much money thrown at them. It's a shame the way it worked out won't allow us to have every bit of creativity we could possible get from their brains.
it is strange he cant count 4 scoops of coffee but how many musicians really count anymore, maybe when weiting i suppose but im almost positive they arent on stage counting in their heads but i could be weong
8:10 - It's wild to see that Dick was still in the 'hired gun' type of role back then, but over the next decade he'd go on to write some of their craziest songs with Tomas. The Abysmal Eye, Phantoms and the Violent Sleep of Reason all spring to mind!
The Last Vigil is at the same time the odd one out, and an almost nostalgic, melodic epilogue to a neck-breaking, heavy album. These musicians know their shit really well.
First song I've ever understood from them, holds a special place in my heart. Although the first "real" piece I clicked with was of course, non other than the almighty Catch 33. Also remember very crisply this first time...
Man I dont know why but this gives me like flashbacks from 20-25 years ago. Hanging out with friends in someone's basement, you brought whatever equipment you would enjoy, big ass computers, TV's, speakers, simple food and sodas and then just grinded out all the fun you could have with each other. Someone doing their own thing half the time in a selected free room lol and you go check on each other. Man good times, good times
I love seeing the writing process in other musicians, because in the bands I have we always have so much frustration. When I listen to a band, I always find myself thinking that someone just came up with one part of it and everyone else wrote their parts verbatim. It creates stress and pressure in your own band when you're writing your own parts, "why can't I write something perfect like so and so?" I always find it incredibly refreshing to hear from Meshuggah how they create their music. And I find it especially fitting that the absolute chaos of Meshuggah's music comes from just that -- absolute chaos. No rhyme or reason, no order, no guidelines -- just panic, chaos, and desperation. I mean fuck they don't even play together. They just get together every now and then and decide to spontaneously write an entire fucking album. Jesus, man. It's like they break themselves so there's nothing left but the core of who they are when they record. Tired, lost all rational thought, braindead, they just keep going. This album is so good.
Unlike most 'Making Of...' docs, this one is very insightful. I like how the filmmakers just let the guys talk about the album without including too much performance footage. After all, we already know what the songs sound like! :)
Dammit, just two songs into Koloss (the incredible and unparalleled "The Demon's Name Is Surveillance"), and my already previously suspected thoughts from Obzen were confirmed: this band is 20 years (at least) ahead of everybody else professing to play heavy music; or maybe any music, period.
meshuggah is incredible but thats a bit of a stretch considering the magnitude of skill in metal today. they are pioneers and if a metal HOF existed theyd be in immediately so i dont mean any disrespect just my 2 cens
I find this so relaxing, this is like the fifth time I watch this video and I find this so freaking relaxing to my ears and eyes, specially when they talk about the tempo at 16:11 !
If you put a thousand metalbands in a row, you can always easily recognize the scandinavian ones just by looking at their faces. I'm i the only one who notices this?
1:09 thank God for those time and money constraints Martin was talking about because I’m pretty sure if any mortal human were to be exposed to Meshuggah‘s true idealogical potential their heads would implode instantaneously
+Blaine Adamson Swedish and Norwegian are distinct languages, but both swedes and norwegians can understand each other most of the time. i personally cant tell the difference between the two, but thats just my American-ness for ya
***** i'm sure they do. And I can usually tell the difference between WRITTEN Swedish and Norwegian, but when they are spoken, it sounds exactly the same to my ear. Like Czech vs Slovak
My ex sent me this n he’s absolutely amazing on drums n guitar! Just wanted to say that first. I’m a proud Swede. My Name is Åsa. I LOVE MESHUGGAH!!! Thank you for this documentary. Music takes dedication and this band is 100% dedicated!!! Thank you for all your hard work!!!!
Seems they would like to, but they seem also to work better separately, and are such amazing players, they can bring it all together when they record or perform.
I love watching this documentary. It's just so fun getting a glimpse of how they made this album because it's very inspiring. Especially considering Meshuggah is one of the bands that really inspires me to play and write music
Damn this was great to watch! You guys are all so down to earth and honest it was really cool to see you guys write an album and to see the different approaches and issues that came. I'm a drummer and Tomas is such a great drummer! he is core to meshuggahs sound but they all are. Brilliant set up too with the hi-hats, perfect for metal. A great band I absolutely need to see live \m/
It's so interesting seeing how they were all concerned about the tempo of Demiurge being way too slow so they try speeding it back up, but then they said it was too fast and I think they unknowingly switched it back to the original tempo where they thought it was "too slow" but now they say it's perfect, (timestamp: 17:04) just shows how ambitious artists will most likely always second guess themselves but ultimately circle back to their original ideas 🤘
I really dig their method of working together while working apart. Their dynamic in the studio, coupled with the way they truly work as a team, is phenomenal.
It's a beautiful record and the one that focuses the most on groove and brutality within the music. People loose sight of that when comparing this record with Obzen. Obzen was about complexity, Koloss took the ideas from Obzen and slowed it down, focusing on the groove.
I miss being In the studio with my guys recording metal. Life has changed so much since I was younger. I always tell my vocalist we aren’t that old and that we need to get back on the horse. The shot at the end with the atmospheric guitar track while they sit around the table really took me back. Really wild to think this band was formed the year I was born
Probably the first album that came across to me as so sonically heavy. Listening back to tracks from it now and still having that unbeatable feeling, as if it were the first time hearing it. Everything feels so refined yet dissonant. Truly is a masterpiece of an album and definitely a desert island disc.
These guys make killer songs. Apparently what the write is only a fraction of what they aim for (budget, time, feasibility, etc). Could you imagine if they actually could create what is in their head? The world would explode
Very impressive in every area. Very impressed with how well they work together and how much respect they have for one another. Very very impressive. And how musical they are. That is a simple statement but they just aren’t beating out a hard song. They really understand what they want and they are capable of slow intervals that sound great and haunting.
Just met these guys for a second time on their latest North American tour. It really feels like meeting true masters of their craft. True gods of the metal world.
I was really surprised by the fact that Anders Björler did the filming and editing here! Never knew that he is doing "Behind the Scenes"(Making of) videos for so many bands! :)
Live Meshuggah is more sacred because of "how" they record, then tour; All out ritual and power transfer evolving and tightening and loosening and...just amazing in awe of the void as they play to fill and collapse it!
i really enjoyed watching this... Amazing álbum, and DEMIURGE its a masterpiece of art. Best metal song of the century so far. Im sorry if i dont write perfectly, english is my third language. thanks for upload it.
Thanks so much for uploading this, it's been a fantastic video and given me a brilliant insight into the process of one of my favourite and definitely the most influential band to me.
I think it's easy to write-off the validity of composition via 'drum-machine' since it immediately conjures thoughts of SoundCloud DJ's, but when you consider the composer both writes and plays it, it makes you appreciate the artistic talent required. After I thought this through it elevated my respect for modern-day artists immensely - especially those who you know are talented enough to play this stuff live without a hitch.
agree ! imagine Allan playing one of these tracks..and i'm sure he could. He's done it before with Planet X - who are much more polyrythmic than Meshugga. :)
I know that some bands need an outside ear (a producer) to hear things and give input during the recording process... usually it is to make sure the musicians don't get lazy when recording takes... "yeah... that's good enough!" Their job is to push the band past what is comfortable to get the best out of them. What is great about this band... is that they are constantly pushing themselves with no need of a producer with a whip. It is cool that they are recording their music themselves... I wish more musicians would take the time to learn a DAW and establish their own recording space so they can record themselves instead of being dependent on a label to book a studio, hire engineers & a producer to make an album. Now.. MIXING is a whole other animal and probably should be handed off to someone who knows what they are doing, but even then it should be under the guidance of the artist. The artist should ALWAYS be in control of their music. This is what separates genuine musicians and music from mindless pop manufactured crap.
I love the freedom that modern recording tools give musicians! It's so liberating to be in charge of your own creative process. This is a super-cool look into the process of these guys :-)
So much people says Meshuggah rips other bands, but what? i don't understand nothing ! Meshuggah is Meshuggah dude! don't needs to compare another band in this world cuz Meshuggah is something out of this world!! >-
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Frederik Thordendal everyone:
Can count extremely complex polyrhythmic riffs, but loses count of scoops of coffee
When it comes to music like this, you don't count. In the early years, I bet they did a lot of that, but nowdays, they are so used to it, so they do not have to count anymore. They feel it. :)
That said, it is kind of ironic that he looses count of scoops of coffee. :)
He doesn't think in time signatures. He just feels it out like, much like he can look down and check how much coffee he put in already
how to undo the "complexity" of these riffs,they are all in 4/4 but in combinations of 9/8 and 5/4 .this somehow works out mathematically to 4/4.
trillriff-axegrinder Makes sense, in the simplest terms, if you have 4 measures of 5/4, it's pretty much the same as 5 measures of 4/4. Depends on the phrasing of the riff.
gredangeo I mean...I unfortunately learned how to play drums by ear and never learned how to count time sigs...but it doesn't hinder my playing really because like someone mentioned you can memorize the restart time by feel...I kinda think counting can mess me up more than anything because my brain is focusing on counting rather then the overall pattern...just my 2 cent :)
I love how Thomas speaks fluent english without a trace of an accent, but then turns around and goes all viking out of nowhere.
he has a (VERY!) slight accent. he kinda lengthens the "o" when be makes the "or" sound like in 'for' or 'recording'. i know a few people from the Minnesota/North Dakota area and they do the exact same thing
+Gibbstronic "viking?" lol its swedish
+mr. scruffy . Id est. vikings.
+Gibbstronic A lot of Swedes speak flawless English. Ebeeto (gamer), Max Von Sydow (actor) or Alicia VIkander (actress), are all Swedes and I didn't know it for a long time.
I see you on every damn Meshuggah video haha god damn you're just as obsessed as I am
"We have no guidelines.
We do whatever sounds Good.
It could be soft, hard, slow or faster.
There are no Rules, Really.
We have no clue How we do it..
We just write Music."
I will always listen to this band!
Also hilarious that 'easy' is never an option.
Incredible outlook, very insightful..
"They were kind enough to make me a signature stick... so... it would be weird if I didn't use that."
I loved that part as well!
At least he's polite about it, lol
There's something pleasingly Nordic about the way they all quietly get on with writing stuff on their own rather than constantly firing ideas at each other.
You're right. They are very peaceful and not egocentric, they respect each other, and all try to do their best to contribute to the overall album. What a brilliant team they are. No wonder they have been around so long.
"No need to use a traditional amplifier anymore"
*Uses 13 tube amps on the next record*
I think they wanted to do that sort of recording for years, but they always ended up in a situation where it was faster/easer/less costly to go down the computer-centric recording scheme. With Violent Sleep of Reason, they were in a position where they actually could do a live recording for the album with a proper engineer.
This choice has very little to do with tone, but rather that they've realized that, going down the computer-centric recording, allows you to become absolutely perfect. It generates someting that is almost artificial, and they wanted to come much closer to how they actually sound live which has a lot of energy, despite minor misstakes here and there.
I am pretty sure they are still writing music the way this documentary shows, it is just that when all songs are done, they rehearse them for a while and then get into the studio to record live.
I really hope they will continue to do that, because Violent Sleep of Reason is, to me, one of their best albums to date!
@@TemalCageman I agree. But you can use amp modelers without using a daw/ suckytools or snapping it to a grid. But yeah, i get watcha mean
@@TemalCageman i use neural DSP plugins too
I would love to hear a totally ambient soundscape project by them. I've always enjoyed the softer moments of Meshuggah, with that inimitable guitar...very emotive, and terribly spacious
Maybe you like this: zeitgeister.bandcamp.com/album/nights-in-distortion
@@sebastianmueller8378 Thanks, that's pretty good.
interesting point
I wish a game company would sign them to do a Doom soundtrack or Diablo....they have so many interesting sounds within there songs it's mysterious yet reaches in and brings out chills. Love it
@@TheSixStringGuy ruclips.net/video/isAjqgqBS4w/видео.html
There you go.
Just discovered this band recently after hearing the comedian, Bill Burr, talk about seeing their show. Un-freakin'-believable, complex, beautiful music. Never thought I'd say that about Metal, but now I am a believer.
I’ve seen them live twice, here in Australia, and it’s funny hearing bill burr’s comments years later and most definitely being a very similar experience when I saw them where majority of the crowd are in awe that it is being played live, as well as the muso’s and fans seriously watching and bopping their heads haha. Freakin tight as they were, it’s ridiculous, both times, how flawless they and their sound was. So so good. I’ve been a fan since 00’. Welcome :) check out Car Bomb also.
*Welcome to the church, bröther.*
Same thing happened to me
Welcome!
@@juggernautproduktion thanks!
I pray for Jens throat to hold for another 10 years at least.
Even if it doesn't, he is the least necessary and easily replaceable member of Meshuggah. Easily.
333plus333 being able to play something that is already written perfectly is a lot different than being able to write music that is similar in quality. I think he meant replaceable in terms of writing songs, rather than just performing them.
+ Johan Nillson
Then pray we reach the day of transhumanism in our lifetime. Jens will be heard Live for the next 10,000 yrs and beyond!
If you don't feel as shit as the drummer after a set, you're not doing vocals right. It's one of the most physical roles in the band dude, your whole torso is involved in it. Replacing a vocalist with another good and actually PROFESSIONAL vocalist is as hard as any other member.
10 years starrrrting... now.
Meshuggah. Part-time Viking warriors, full-time council of the elders of all metal.
"I forgot to breathe, but it worked out."
Fuck *yeah* it did. \m/
its so cool how the drummer goes from perfect swedish to perfect english, accents and everything, at the tip of a hat.
marten hagstrom is the same way, very interesting isnt it? not sure why but some scandinavians have this ability and others dont, tho they all do speak english very well from what iv seen
YEA @ImGazu he is TOMAS HAAKE the best drummer in the world imo
Over a decade later, to return to this…it’s just pure gold. Need a documentary on the latest stuff.
YEA @snail415 agree completely need more people listenin' to this sweet metal 🧙♂🧙♂🧙♂🧙♂⚡💥🔥
End of vid is like they are all died after the recording
they did. they are ALL DEAD
"they were kind enough to give me a signature stick... it'd be weird if I didn't use it, right?"
It makes me a little sad to see Marten say they can't really do everything they want. Guys like these, some of the greatest musicians, incredible innovators, and leaders in musicianship and composition, should have so much money thrown at them. It's a shame the way it worked out won't allow us to have every bit of creativity we could possible get from their brains.
Your comment has aged very well. 😂
Imagine if it was like that, even better than what we have now… holy fuck
Introvert vibes, all of them. I love this band.
They're from the north of sweden. That's kind of the default personality up there 😅
@@imgtsmnlom Yep! Sort of like Fins. very reserved people
Marten is the only that seems like an extrovert
'I always lose count when making coffee"... is it even possible any one of these four guys can lose count of anything? Ever?
maybe they try to play in 4/4, but just all lose count at the same time.
no nono underrated
it is strange he cant count 4 scoops of coffee but how many musicians really count anymore, maybe when weiting i suppose but im almost positive they arent on stage counting in their heads but i could be weong
five guys bro, you miscounted
Honestly, it’s only really counting when writing. When the songs are written and rehearsed it comes as naturally as walking.
8:10 - It's wild to see that Dick was still in the 'hired gun' type of role back then, but over the next decade he'd go on to write some of their craziest songs with Tomas. The Abysmal Eye, Phantoms and the Violent Sleep of Reason all spring to mind!
The Last Vigil is at the same time the odd one out, and an almost nostalgic, melodic epilogue to a neck-breaking, heavy album. These musicians know their shit really well.
First song I've ever understood from them, holds a special place in my heart. Although the first "real" piece I clicked with was of course, non other than the almighty Catch 33. Also remember very crisply this first time...
Man I dont know why but this gives me like flashbacks from 20-25 years ago. Hanging out with friends in someone's basement, you brought whatever equipment you would enjoy, big ass computers, TV's, speakers, simple food and sodas and then just grinded out all the fun you could have with each other. Someone doing their own thing half the time in a selected free room lol and you go check on each other. Man good times, good times
This is my favorite Meshuggah release. The songwriting, the natural kit sound, and the mixing are just out of this world.
The behind the scenes of The Last Vigil is so special here, the ethereal elements are sonic therapy
I love seeing the writing process in other musicians, because in the bands I have we always have so much frustration. When I listen to a band, I always find myself thinking that someone just came up with one part of it and everyone else wrote their parts verbatim. It creates stress and pressure in your own band when you're writing your own parts, "why can't I write something perfect like so and so?" I always find it incredibly refreshing to hear from Meshuggah how they create their music.
And I find it especially fitting that the absolute chaos of Meshuggah's music comes from just that -- absolute chaos. No rhyme or reason, no order, no guidelines -- just panic, chaos, and desperation.
I mean fuck they don't even play together. They just get together every now and then and decide to spontaneously write an entire fucking album.
Jesus, man. It's like they break themselves so there's nothing left but the core of who they are when they record. Tired, lost all rational thought, braindead, they just keep going.
This album is so good.
Amen to that brother! ;-)
I think it's the first i ever heard Fredrik's voice. He's always so low profile.
But he did a lot of back vocals in the old days of Meshuggah. :P
That passage at the 13:00 mark is exquisite. Painfully beautiful.
The Last Vigil. It's so good
These parts are not in the final recording thou. I wish they were.
I love it
Unlike most 'Making Of...' docs, this one is very insightful. I like how the filmmakers just let the guys talk about the album without including too much performance footage. After all, we already know what the songs sound like! :)
"At the top of their genre?" They ARE their genre, that's why people love them...
Dammit, just two songs into Koloss (the incredible and unparalleled "The Demon's Name Is Surveillance"), and my already previously suspected thoughts from Obzen were confirmed: this band is 20 years (at least) ahead of everybody else professing to play heavy music; or maybe any music, period.
In that style perhaps.
meshuggah is incredible but thats a bit of a stretch considering the magnitude of skill in metal today. they are pioneers and if a metal HOF existed theyd be in immediately so i dont mean any disrespect just my 2 cens
i think its hilarious how they are in their own little offices. i guess that is truly tech metal.
+Chris S. works. they haven't had a single fight in like what.. 20 years?
Thirty three years now, and counting, I guess... casually I wrote this on the exact 15th anniversary of Catch 33. 🤔
I find this so relaxing, this is like the fifth time I watch this video and I find this so freaking relaxing to my ears and eyes, specially when they talk about the tempo at 16:11 !
10:25 is so wholesome and clever. He suggests to do the guitar part the way he would personally like so it's easier for him to remember and play.
love meshuggah
If you put a thousand metalbands in a row, you can always easily recognize the scandinavian ones just by looking at their faces. I'm i the only one who notices this?
i dunno about 1000 bands but if you put 9 american bands and one scandinavian one im sure i could pick them out
I'd say it's more their demeanor. Scandinavians have that sort of way about them. Most likely a cultural thing.
Personal opinion, it's how people from the western world act versus how people from the eastern hemisphere act that you notice as different.
@@that_boyzac4908 bruh what, sweden is in the western world
1:09 thank God for those time and money constraints Martin was talking about because I’m pretty sure if any mortal human were to be exposed to Meshuggah‘s true idealogical potential their heads would implode instantaneously
is it just a rule that band videos cant be above 480p quality?
+ravensrock31 They are most likely all rip'd from DVDs which are only 480p
The sound quality is still good at 480. no need for 1080
Just enjoy
That's it, im learning Swedish
Right ? Haha
+Blaine Adamson Swedish and Norwegian are distinct languages, but both swedes and norwegians can understand each other most of the time. i personally cant tell the difference between the two, but thats just my American-ness for ya
***** i'm sure they do. And I can usually tell the difference between WRITTEN Swedish and Norwegian, but when they are spoken, it sounds exactly the same to my ear. Like Czech vs Slovak
lex lewis Jävla, Fan, and Hellveta are “fuck, shit/damn/fuck, and hell/goddammit”
You’re welcome
How’s your Swedish going?
22:03 Even their fridge door sounds massive
Topkek
Somehow, for me, this is by far the best comment on youtube, ever. 10/10.
Even Jens' speaking voice is intimidating. Thank you for this video.
My ex sent me this n he’s absolutely amazing on drums n guitar! Just wanted to say that first.
I’m a proud Swede. My Name is Åsa.
I LOVE MESHUGGAH!!! Thank you for this documentary. Music takes dedication and this band is 100% dedicated!!! Thank you for all your hard work!!!!
"you decide. that's the way we have to do it. Then, we close our eyes, ears, and especially our mouths, and record it."
Jag älskar Meshuggah!!!!!!
Yes indeed my friend
"Kind enough to make a signature stick" so humble it's crazy
8:27 teaching Dick the bass part for Demiurge. That song slays!
Their approach to writing songs is interesting. I would have thought they were always practicing together judging by how tight they all are
Seems they would like to, but they seem also to work better separately, and are such amazing players, they can bring it all together when they record or perform.
I love watching this documentary. It's just so fun getting a glimpse of how they made this album because it's very inspiring. Especially considering Meshuggah is one of the bands that really inspires me to play and write music
I love it that they don't put subtitles on the swear words, because each sentence Mårten says includes one!
Damn this was great to watch! You guys are all so down to earth and honest it was really cool to see you guys write an album and to see the different approaches and issues that came. I'm a drummer and Tomas is such a great drummer! he is core to meshuggahs sound but they all are. Brilliant set up too with the hi-hats, perfect for metal. A great band I absolutely need to see live \m/
It's so interesting seeing how they were all concerned about the tempo of Demiurge being way too slow so they try speeding it back up, but then they said it was too fast and I think they unknowingly switched it back to the original tempo where they thought it was "too slow" but now they say it's perfect, (timestamp: 17:04) just shows how ambitious artists will most likely always second guess themselves but ultimately circle back to their original ideas 🤘
anyone else afraid of Jens's veins?
I'm afraid of Jens's everything :O
if you drink your juice, your filtered vitamin substance, you have nothing to fear from Jen.
Francis Ducharme duck yeah. Rational gaze
love their hockey jerseys collection. as a hockey fan and huge fan of this band, this pleases me
I really dig their method of working together while working apart. Their dynamic in the studio, coupled with the way they truly work as a team, is phenomenal.
I can listen to this album front to back (including Vigil, for some reason) again and again.
It's a beautiful record and the one that focuses the most on groove and brutality within the music. People loose sight of that when comparing this record with Obzen. Obzen was about complexity, Koloss took the ideas from Obzen and slowed it down, focusing on the groove.
tech metal writting process is the best example of democracy in practice.
I miss being In the studio with my guys recording metal. Life has changed so much since I was younger. I always tell my vocalist we aren’t that old and that we need to get back on the horse. The shot at the end with the atmospheric guitar track while they sit around the table really took me back. Really wild to think this band was formed the year I was born
2:45
Holy cow, he switched to perfect American english without a hitch
Probably the first album that came across to me as so sonically heavy. Listening back to tracks from it now and still having that unbeatable feeling, as if it were the first time hearing it. Everything feels so refined yet dissonant. Truly is a masterpiece of an album and definitely a desert island disc.
This is my favorite Meshuggah album! It was fun to see the making o f it.
Thanks Markku and the AMAZING Meshuggah 😇😮👀🧙♂
These guys make killer songs. Apparently what the write is only a fraction of what they aim for (budget, time, feasibility, etc). Could you imagine if they actually could create what is in their head? The world would explode
That guitar sound at 13:00!
Theese vids are such a source of inspiration
koloss, the masterpiece of meshuggah
Very impressive in every area. Very impressed with how well they work together and how much respect they have for one another. Very very impressive. And how musical they are. That is a simple statement but they just aren’t beating out a hard song. They really understand what they want and they are capable of slow intervals that sound great and haunting.
Just met these guys for a second time on their latest North American tour. It really feels like meeting true masters of their craft. True gods of the metal world.
I was really surprised by the fact that Anders Björler did the filming and editing here! Never knew that he is doing "Behind the Scenes"(Making of) videos for so many bands! :)
that was a great doc, really enjoyed
and now 10 years later they're still going lol- cant wait for imutable
Basically that first song during the making of Koloss influenced them to rehearse and play together for Violent Sleep Of Reason, awesome.
Live Meshuggah is more sacred because of "how" they record, then tour; All out ritual and power transfer evolving and tightening and loosening and...just amazing in awe of the void as they play to fill and collapse it!
I've been lucky enough to witness them live on several occasions, holy shit what a fucking show!
i really enjoyed watching this... Amazing álbum, and DEMIURGE its a masterpiece of art. Best metal song of the century so far.
Im sorry if i dont write perfectly, english is my third language. thanks for upload it.
Third?
wow I'm glad this was posted in full. I remember seeing bits of it and the poster saying he'd get sued posting the whole thing. thanks!
Another incredible piece of Meshuggah History, really enjoyed the "process" involved, made me appreciate the art even more!
I came to this video lookin to check out more Thorendal but DAAAM that is one MEAN sounding bass player !
Holy shit the stuff coming out of their speakers sounds so freaking nice :3 (sound quality-wise)
Thanks so much for uploading this, it's been a fantastic video and given me a brilliant insight into the process of one of my favourite and definitely the most influential band to me.
Fan va gött att se mina idoler gå till jobbet! När jag sätter ett windows cluster nästa gång så ska jag tänka mer Meshugga!
I think it's easy to write-off the validity of composition via 'drum-machine' since it immediately conjures thoughts of SoundCloud DJ's, but when you consider the composer both writes and plays it, it makes you appreciate the artistic talent required. After I thought this through it elevated my respect for modern-day artists immensely - especially those who you know are talented enough to play this stuff live without a hitch.
YOOO THEY HAVE A MINNESOTA WILD JERSEY AT 16:43. Fucking love these guys
the progressive riffing starting at 13:00 is very alan holdsworth vibe
agree ! imagine Allan playing one of these tracks..and i'm sure he could. He's done it before with Planet X - who are much more polyrythmic than Meshugga. :)
What an awesome documentary and awesome band! Thanks for this!
such a huge amount of work. hats off to them! not like your average recording process; they are all very focussed.
Why doesn't this video have thousands and thousands of views? Great documentary!
5:50 Fredrik using the Axe FX as an interface and then loading stock amp plugins lol
This video is crazy cause it’s like *random unintelligible Swedish noises* “iPhone” *random unintelligible Swedish noises continue*
I know that some bands need an outside ear (a producer) to hear things and give input during the recording process... usually it is to make sure the musicians don't get lazy when recording takes... "yeah... that's good enough!" Their job is to push the band past what is comfortable to get the best out of them. What is great about this band... is that they are constantly pushing themselves with no need of a producer with a whip. It is cool that they are recording their music themselves... I wish more musicians would take the time to learn a DAW and establish their own recording space so they can record themselves instead of being dependent on a label to book a studio, hire engineers & a producer to make an album. Now.. MIXING is a whole other animal and probably should be handed off to someone who knows what they are doing, but even then it should be under the guidance of the artist. The artist should ALWAYS be in control of their music. This is what separates genuine musicians and music from mindless pop manufactured crap.
Ive watched this about 4 times now
I stepped in Meshuggah realm with Swarm.
I WANNA HEAR FREDRIK DO SOMETHING WITH THE FRETLESS ON ONE OF THE ALBUMS AAAAAH
When they're all sitting at the table, they all look as if someone has died
9:22 - 9: 26 "Ähmen, det som blir bra blir bra liksom"
fyfan vad jag älskar dem här gubbarna
Playing 10-15 min long songs, backbeat, front-beat, off beats, 16ths, 32nds, 3/8, 5/8, 7/8 flawless! Makes coffee: looses count. :)
Wow Czarcie kopyto shirt ! yay. Great vid, greets from Poland !
meshuggahが日本のギターブランドを使ってくれるの嬉しいんだよな
俺が作ったわけでもないのに
its nice to see that the vikings have put down all there axes and helmets and starting playing metal
Zero egos in the room. Seems that's a Scandinavian thing. They are just real honest all the time. Nothing personal you know.
"YOU'LL BUY ME!!!!..."
Some of the background music on this video has the Starcraft Zerg vibe in it... love it!
I was surprised to see Owe Lingvall in charge of filming! He was/is(?) the drummer of Nocturnal Rites, great player... aw, childhood :)
I love the freedom that modern recording tools give musicians! It's so liberating to be in charge of your own creative process. This is a super-cool look into the process of these guys :-)
So much people says Meshuggah rips other bands, but what? i don't understand nothing ! Meshuggah is Meshuggah dude! don't needs to compare another band in this world cuz Meshuggah is something out of this world!! >-