13:19 Devin sings on Planet of the Apes "while we all have lots of bands who influence still, we all rip off meshugga". Devin needs to see this segment so he knows, that it also worked the other way around ;)
Fuck what a good interview! I like the energy that Tomas transmits. He seems like a very humble guy. And the ironic tone of the interview makes it all more surreal and fun. Thanks!
This is absolutely brilliant Philipp. I sincerely hope you can do more of these. Sick a great concept, and Thomas is a super good sport for being the first. Well done.
Alex 'The Brutalizer' Marquez! One of my favorite drummers too! That Solstice album rips! His work in Malevolent Creation, Demolition Hammer and Resurrection is legendary too!
Thanks for the very good content! The Sadist drummer who recorded Crust is Oinos , if you check the band Thy Nature you will hear some great stuff from the early 90s, way before polyrhythms became cool 😊
Just getting into this newest episode....SOLSTICE?!?!? Alex Marquez...Malevolent Creation....I was totally "Transmogrified"....can't wait to delve further!!! 😈 🤘
I've seen a million people claim "This band sounds like Meshuggah" about a million different bands, this is the first time I actually agree. Thanks for introducing me to Coprofago!
Oh wow! I just saw Jason Avery from Monstrosity a little while back coming out of a Publix in Tampa. He worked at Mean Machine Tattoo shop with the dude that inked me (RIP) back around 2001-02. He’s a Super nice guy 🤟😁🤘 Hope he sees this video.
Moin ! ich hatte genau den selben Moment und Platte. Solstice waren mein Teil meiner Auswahl für Parties und zuhause. Um genau zu sein, "ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR": Solstice, Hexx BIRDS OF PREY (listened to the most love that kind of trash prog, unique till today), Immortal, Demolition Hammer, Hypocrisy, and also heavy rotating, of course, what a songbuildup always: SINISTER (if i forgot a good track sorry) OK EDIT: Pungent Stench ! I was 10 years old and i only got this cd because i borrowed some older kids my first cd i ever bought: Morgoth Odium and the party they brought that to was in a place where you have to nail things on the floor or they will be stolen (if you were new to the bunch. or not "that place" enough), so i got compensated with BELIAL (finnish death metal still listen to it) and ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR, which in the internet free world of 1994 was a good way to get an overview over other styles you might like + the booklet was stuffed with Band logoes and the newest releases in extreme metal, almost a 101 of death metal at this time, seconds before death metal will "die". Yet the Odium was handpicked in a cd battle in the store "against" morbid angel covenant, which wasnt as "earcandy" for my young ears, as the Odium and almost flat sounding, the "ear candy" bit would be the addition "depressive" in todays world i guess, so it was missed anyway.
i would even go as far as saying that solstice thanks to their technical playing, mid cut, level of distortion but clarity of sound.. almost in isolation of meshuggah created a blue print for the famous destroy erase sound/flair. 7:49
@@filheim Marquez's doublebass speed is almost identical in speed and execution to the "brakedown" part on song one on DEI.. that weird speed of the guitars when you barely realize how the phrasing is because its masked by the speed aso. and yes, i think so too but its a sound very specifically engineered to suit the shuggs style.. a mid heavy sound with reverb on the drums would make the songs wishy washy imo
Glad to see Tomas reaction to Coprofago . There is another Chilean band you might wanna check if you dig Coprofago you can check "octopus" which is also in a similar branch of prog/metal. Coprofago never denied their Meshuggah influence. You can see members of coprofago covering one of my fav Meshuggah songs here:ruclips.net/video/dbqayK82aW0/видео.html
Have you tried to get Chris Adler on drum talk? I really do think you'd get an interesting insight perspective of deep roots as opposed to of what we know how he became to me Now with Firstborne but still
hey hey, sure thing I did, a couple of times to be exact with both LOG & Megadeth. But unfortunately it didn't happen back then. Same with Vinnie Paul and a bunch of other drummers....
18:00 considering changing our name to The Schizophrenics. BTW here’s the whole schizophrenic track: ruclips.net/video/vYuATCid4Rk/видео.htmlsi=EGPHPAn5-Riw6epV
It always fascinating to me how people talk about Chaosphere. That album and Nothing changed my life, and then I bought everything that Meshuggah has. It's never about the raw sound - with Chaosphere, the entire album (with the exception of Internal Machinery of Torture) is in 4, and the way that they use rhythms on that album has never been topped - maybe by Obzen, but certainly not from another band. Chaosphere is incredible, and it's a shame that they won't play anything from that album anymore, but they have nothing to prove at this point. None of their albums suck. Not one.
Hearing Thomas say that SYL "is one of the best metal bands that ever existed, man" is music to my ears. 100% agree. Wish Dev would get the band back togedder for an encore album!
I'm glad Devin has started to play some SYL on his live shows again. I know their albums are fueled with rage and he doesn't really like reminiscing on that period of his life but maybe he can look back at the good times too and the Great music that was born through his turmoil. I love SYL too but I don't think they'll ever record something again
@@thewildhealer541 Yeah, I've heard him say those things, as well. Sad for us as consumers of their brilliant efforts! Totally understand the sentiment. Songs are a journey and vibe revisitation into who you were when you wrote them, and he doesn't want to retread that ground. Lot of angst, rage, and gorgeous fury :) I'd settle for a reunion tour playing 20 song sets! ;)
If you search for Coprofago's video for Chaos ( ruclips.net/video/yuPGW5LigH4/видео.html ) 17 years ago there is a comment posted by MESHUGGAH themselves (or their youtube community manager, but probably was Marten or Jens ahahaha) that says " you guys sound *NOTHING* like meshuggah. jeez....lål" which it was a clear compliment and wholesome comment to drop on a very underground amazing chilean band. Some people missed the entire joke and took it as an offense, which clearly highlights how unfamiliar they are with Meshuggah's entire catalog or at that point in time, their NOTHING album.
Hey Philip! Thanks to you and Haake for the awesome interview session! I asked a couple years back but I gotta ask again, u wouldn't happen to have anymore t-shirts come in from drumtalk? Thanks again!!
howdy! thanksalot for the comment... well, still no drumtalk shirts in the pipeline 'cause I simply cannot imagine how anyone out there (myself inlcuded and I actually own one!) would wear such a thing -- except for you obviously 😊 😊😊 But in case I might ever have some extra money lying around one day I promise I'll think about it
@@drumtalkofficial It means you kinda look like Johnny Depp hahaha! Well, more like 50% Depp and 50% short-haired Peter Tagtgren. Ask your friends if you don't believe me :D Nice video!!!
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Something about the fact that Tomas refers to the Swedish chef as just “the muppet show chef” is…subtly hilarious.
That was hilarious.
That is like saying someone referring to meatballs in Sweden as "Swedish meatballs"... By the way we don't have "Swedish Fish" either.
@@TheNobleAthelstane True, they are just called "Fish" here lol.
Yes, its always a good day when i see the words Drum Talk and Tomas Haake together.
Would be nice if we had a vocal talk and Jens
Absolutely!
& more dick interviews!
Of course, he built that perfect table. No other human being could have made such a masterpiece of carpentry
lowkey brilliant comment
A Swedish born man who speaks perfect English with perfect dialect and plays amazing technical drums. What a smart boy.
13:19 Devin sings on Planet of the Apes "while we all have lots of bands who influence still, we all rip off meshugga". Devin needs to see this segment so he knows, that it also worked the other way around ;)
amazing right, thought of that immediately too! :)
Fuck what a good interview! I like the energy that Tomas transmits. He seems like a very humble guy. And the ironic tone of the interview makes it all more surreal and fun. Thanks!
thanks buddy! yeah, not too cerial
His English is impeccable. Incredible drummer. Saw Meshuggah a few months ago. Always awesome.
im sure tomas enjoyed this twice as much just because of the comfort pillow
He's just hiding how happy he really is.... 😇
@@drumtalkofficial dude that was next level inside joke...
@@chrispap2393 inside... a pillow?
And then Devin writes lyrics like " We all rip off meshuggah " :D It's an orgy of so much talent all these lads!!!!
Tomas showed great patience and humor with this awkward situation.
This is absolutely brilliant Philipp. I sincerely hope you can do more of these. Sick a great concept, and Thomas is a super good sport for being the first. Well done.
thank you so much! But I doubt I will repeat this format -- it was a sh*tload of work to make this video
@drumtalkofficial I do not doubt it. Deepest thanks for making the effort to create this.
@@drumtalkofficial…but worth it. The effort paid off.
Tomas talking about Coprofago CHILE 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱
momento epico
Mega orgulloso aguante coprofago, ocutupus, all tomorrows y todo el metal chileneno 🙌🇨🇱
30 minutes of pure joy, thanks for that marvelous conversation! Tomas' sense of humour is something else :D
My new life motto: "Ape Adjacent."
mosh pit ethos
Alex 'The Brutalizer' Marquez! One of my favorite drummers too! That Solstice album rips! His work in Malevolent Creation, Demolition Hammer and Resurrection is legendary too!
Oh my god, Sadist - Crust is such an awesome and underrated album! Also great get together, I loved it!
always loved that record from the first time I pressed PLAY 💥
"if you actually did rape me we're gonna have to have a discussion about that" i swear Tomas is lowkey hilarious
LoWkEy
didn't expect to see Tomas reacting to Solstice today
Interesting tracks played. Solstice reminds me of Do Not Spit by Damaged. Tomas and Gene Hoglan both Jedi Masters of metal drumming 🤘
Thanks for the very good content! The Sadist drummer who recorded Crust is Oinos , if you check the band Thy Nature you will hear some great stuff from the early 90s, way before polyrhythms became cool 😊
Best episode yet!
Just getting into this newest episode....SOLSTICE?!?!? Alex Marquez...Malevolent Creation....I was totally "Transmogrified"....can't wait to delve further!!! 😈 🤘
Delightful. Only the most distinguished of apes
LEGEND!!!
Even his beer came right on the table
Legend. Would love to hear him react to Martyr.
I've seen a million people claim "This band sounds like Meshuggah" about a million different bands, this is the first time I actually agree. Thanks for introducing me to Coprofago!
they still didn't .....the beat as such awas way too easily comprehendable for meshuggah. that thing would never be on a meshuggah record
"by the band Setlist...I love Setlist, they're great" lmao!
loved it!
Oh wow! I just saw Jason Avery from Monstrosity a little while back coming out of a Publix in Tampa. He worked at Mean Machine Tattoo shop with the dude that inked me (RIP) back around 2001-02. He’s a Super nice guy 🤟😁🤘
Hope he sees this video.
Would be cool to see Tomas show some of his fave songs & talk through 'em!
well, my initial idea was called "You show me yours and I'll show you mine" but he'd rather have it this way. Scarve was his idea though, wasn't it?
@@drumtalkofficial hahaha I like that 🤣 True!
Moin ! ich hatte genau den selben Moment und Platte. Solstice waren mein Teil meiner Auswahl für Parties und zuhause. Um genau zu sein, "ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR": Solstice, Hexx BIRDS OF PREY (listened to the most love that kind of trash prog, unique till today), Immortal, Demolition Hammer, Hypocrisy, and also heavy rotating, of course, what a songbuildup always: SINISTER (if i forgot a good track sorry) OK EDIT: Pungent Stench !
I was 10 years old and i only got this cd because i borrowed some older kids my first cd i ever bought: Morgoth Odium and the party they brought that to was in a place where you have to nail things on the floor or they will be stolen (if you were new to the bunch. or not "that place" enough), so i got compensated with BELIAL (finnish death metal still listen to it) and ICH ZAHL NIHCT MEHR, which in the internet free world of 1994 was a good way to get an overview over other styles you might like + the booklet was stuffed with Band logoes and the newest releases in extreme metal, almost a 101 of death metal at this time, seconds before death metal will "die".
Yet the Odium was handpicked in a cd battle in the store "against" morbid angel covenant, which wasnt as "earcandy" for my young ears, as the Odium and almost flat sounding, the "ear candy" bit would be the addition "depressive" in todays world i guess, so it was missed anyway.
www.discogs.com/de/release/865914-Various-Ich-Zahl-Nicht-Mehr-Heavy-Vol-2
17:19 tomas trying to remember if they did that someday in the past 😂😂
Vinnie poul
Gracias por haber estado
Siempre
En serio
Siempre
that was a lot of fun
Man, so glad you talked about Coprofago and Scarve !!
18:09 that short guitar thing sounds a lot like allan holdsworth inspired lick :)
Coprofago are next level
I would love to see Hannes from Sabaton on here :)
Coprofago is the most underrated band ever, glad to see some love for the band here
A good way to never be discovered is to have a dumb name. They nailed it.
i would even go as far as saying that solstice thanks to their technical playing, mid cut, level of distortion but clarity of sound.. almost in isolation of meshuggah created a blue print for the famous destroy erase sound/flair. 7:49
Destroy is the best sounding metal album of that time
@@filheim Marquez's doublebass speed is almost identical in speed and execution to the "brakedown" part on song one on DEI.. that weird speed of the guitars when you barely realize how the phrasing is because its masked by the speed aso. and yes, i think so too but its a sound very specifically engineered to suit the shuggs style.. a mid heavy sound with reverb on the drums would make the songs wishy washy imo
Strapping Young Lad's CIty was 1997
Glad to see Tomas reaction to Coprofago . There is another Chilean band you might wanna check if you dig Coprofago you can check "octopus" which is also in a similar branch of prog/metal. Coprofago never denied their Meshuggah influence. You can see members of coprofago covering one of my fav Meshuggah songs here:ruclips.net/video/dbqayK82aW0/видео.html
De hecho, Orozco fue “compañero de clases” de Haake, tuvieron de profe a Ågren al mismo tiempo 😅
The guitar sound at around 9:02 sounds quite Testament-y (somewhat muted behind the dialogue but it’s there).
Ha ,cierto
Soy de Argentina
Caba
That's a good table - he could have been a good carpenter.
I got a suicidal tendencies-vibe from Solstice!
Coprofago🇨🇱
👍👍😎🤘
23:06 someone show him Adler. Lol
Have you tried to get Chris Adler on drum talk?
I really do think you'd get an interesting insight perspective of deep roots as opposed to of what we know how he became to me
Now with Firstborne but still
hey hey, sure thing I did, a couple of times to be exact with both LOG & Megadeth. But unfortunately it didn't happen back then. Same with Vinnie Paul and a bunch of other drummers....
@@drumtalkofficial I see, thanks for the response! I hope you get him on here someday. Huge fan of the channel, keep them coming!
trivial, but does tomas have a ski tan? genuinely curious lol
"Dums" I want t shirt like this 😅
Ape called Jason... lmao
18:00 considering changing our name to The Schizophrenics. BTW here’s the whole schizophrenic track: ruclips.net/video/vYuATCid4Rk/видео.htmlsi=EGPHPAn5-Riw6epV
hahaha! hi there guys! thanks for stopping by and leaving a message 👊
Italian bands? How about Destrage! My favorite Italian band...so far
It always fascinating to me how people talk about Chaosphere. That album and Nothing changed my life, and then I bought everything that Meshuggah has.
It's never about the raw sound - with Chaosphere, the entire album (with the exception of Internal Machinery of Torture) is in 4, and the way that they use rhythms on that album has never been topped - maybe by Obzen, but certainly not from another band. Chaosphere is incredible, and it's a shame that they won't play anything from that album anymore, but they have nothing to prove at this point. None of their albums suck. Not one.
Hey! I'm j.son!
Aguante Coprofago ctmre
D.U.M.B.s = DRUMMING UNDERGROUND METAL BOSS’s
(‘s means IS)
Ex: McDonald’s, Wendy’s.
McDonald IS, Wendy IS
Gorilla has finally become deaf.
11:18 🎵?
Prong - Prove You Wrong
God doesn't seem very comfortable with the host. Somebody knows something about that?
“I am a German, I am stupid”
Tell me you are a liar without….
he looks so old. time to retire grandpa and make way for gen z who are so much better than everyone.
You're an idiot.
Hearing Thomas say that SYL "is one of the best metal bands that ever existed, man" is music to my ears. 100% agree.
Wish Dev would get the band back togedder for an encore album!
I'm glad Devin has started to play some SYL on his live shows again. I know their albums are fueled with rage and he doesn't really like reminiscing on that period of his life but maybe he can look back at the good times too and the Great music that was born through his turmoil. I love SYL too but I don't think they'll ever record something again
@@thewildhealer541 Yeah, I've heard him say those things, as well. Sad for us as consumers of their brilliant efforts! Totally understand the sentiment. Songs are a journey and vibe revisitation into who you were when you wrote them, and he doesn't want to retread that ground. Lot of angst, rage, and gorgeous fury :) I'd settle for a reunion tour playing 20 song sets! ;)
that ship has sailed. townsend' smusic isn't the same since he is "well". completely lost that edge that made him so special
@hazardeur I'm happy he's in a better place as a person but I completely agree regarding his music
Watching him listen to music with no facial expression is somehow fascinating..... Like what does music sound like to him?
Thomas is a quintessential muted Muppet Show chef!
Yes Strapping! Shit Storm….my goodness. Insane!
Imagine being SYL members, hearing you likely somehow influenced and inspired Meshuggah.
Sadist crust is a masterpiece. Scarve is amazing too.
I loved the fact that Thomas recognizes the swagger Vinnie Paul had. As much as I love Charlie Benante, his swagger is very different from VP's
RIP Sean Reinert. Death - Human is the pinnacle of that Florida sound imo
If you search for Coprofago's video for Chaos ( ruclips.net/video/yuPGW5LigH4/видео.html ) 17 years ago there is a comment posted by MESHUGGAH themselves (or their youtube community manager, but probably was Marten or Jens ahahaha) that says " you guys sound *NOTHING* like meshuggah. jeez....lål" which it was a clear compliment and wholesome comment to drop on a very underground amazing chilean band. Some people missed the entire joke and took it as an offense, which clearly highlights how unfamiliar they are with Meshuggah's entire catalog or at that point in time, their NOTHING album.
Hey Philip! Thanks to you and Haake for the awesome interview session! I asked a couple years back but I gotta ask again, u wouldn't happen to have anymore t-shirts come in from drumtalk? Thanks again!!
howdy! thanksalot for the comment... well, still no drumtalk shirts in the pipeline 'cause I simply cannot imagine how anyone out there (myself inlcuded and I actually own one!) would wear such a thing -- except for you obviously 😊 😊😊
But in case I might ever have some extra money lying around one day I promise I'll think about it
@@drumtalkofficial Thanks for the reply Philip! Perfect, that's all I ask for, have a great day!!🙏
We must protect this dude
Wow I'm gonna go listen to that Solstice record!
Florida 90s metal scene is legendary
I prefer the 90s New York scene. Immolation, Incantation, Suffocation etc. The -tion scene.
Pantera, death and cynic. Not bad.
I was hoping for a make-out session. Regardless, this was awesome and fun to watch ❤
We totally did make-out but that shit gear wasn't recording
Te cague alemán botón
Con el subtitulado de RUclips
Un abrazo ,
Si estas por la zona háblame
Trabajo en una sala de ensayo para músicos
Killer chat
I love Coprofago for the very beginning
Tomas reminded me to buy his signature WINCENT Meshuggah sticks.. !!! Fun video!
I have both colors of his drum key.
🍻 ❤
Find a band called pigmaster
They are on soundcould I think
Drum Talk, hosted by german Johnny Depp.
to quote Tomas: "I don't even know what that means...."
@@drumtalkofficial It means you kinda look like Johnny Depp hahaha! Well, more like 50% Depp and 50% short-haired Peter Tagtgren. Ask your friends if you don't believe me :D Nice video!!!
Great video 🥁
Looks nothing like him.
Just to mention Sadist was founded by Peso, the boss from Necrodeath another legend.
Great drummer
I saw Tomas and had to watch, I’m not a drummer, but hugely respect great Drummers.
17:54 the Spastic Ink shout out♥️
Awesome!.
great !