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  • @TheTrinityDelusion
    @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад +7

    How Trinitarians end up confessing they are not begotten of God, that God is not their own Father, and so betray themselves as unbelievers.

    • @T1985-q1d
      @T1985-q1d 5 лет назад

      Monogenes translates to Hebrew word.יָחַד, Which means "One of a Kind", "Only". It is similar to Hebrew word "Echad".

    • @brianthomas4358
      @brianthomas4358 5 лет назад +1

      Jesus was one of a kind in that God fathered his flesh. Our earthly father helped bring us into existence.

    • @brianthomas4358
      @brianthomas4358 5 лет назад

      Jesus also had all the fullness of God in him. We are given a measure of the Spirit.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@brianthomas4358 Col 2:9 refers to the risen Christ. Also: "to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God." Eph 1:19

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@brianthomas4358 "Jesus was one of a kind in that God fathered his flesh. Our earthly father helped bring us into existence."
      God BEGETS believers which is why Jesus is the firstborn of many brothers.

  • @wilmavanstaden1026
    @wilmavanstaden1026 5 лет назад +11

    We have been waiting a few months for your return. It was worthwhile so far. Thank you for your dedicated work on this very important subject. We were deceived for so long.

  • @waynegoff3776
    @waynegoff3776 5 лет назад +11

    I love your teaching brother Kel to me it’s common sense and can’t understand why anyone can’t see but there be many blind leaders of the blind. May The only true God continue to bless you

  • @chinochris3181
    @chinochris3181 5 лет назад +5

    Glad to have u back big bro... luv and respect for defending the faith once handed down from the saints

  • @Mckaule
    @Mckaule 5 лет назад +5

    Ameeeen ! Talked with my wife about it yesterday and now your video.

  • @tOPjon1
    @tOPjon1 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for the upload. These videos, and the website, were the main tools I had (and still use) when I was transferring out of trinitarianism. I hope they help many more.

  • @TruthOverFax
    @TruthOverFax Год назад +1

    Amen brother Kel very clearly presented praise God.
    If those in Trinity world say only Jesus is begotten of God, why then do they even call God their Father? So much error at every level!
    God bless you in the name of Jesus our Lord 🙏🏼

  • @axaqwdfaa
    @axaqwdfaa 5 лет назад +7

    Just came across your channel, Absolutely agree that the trinity is a disgrace to even the concept of a creator, Keep up the good work and belief in strict monotheism.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      Who do you say that Jesus is?

    • @axaqwdfaa
      @axaqwdfaa 5 лет назад

      @@bobpolo2964 Fatherless, The Messiah, Prophet and messanger of God.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      @@axaqwdfaa Fatherless?

    • @Eclectifying
      @Eclectifying 8 месяцев назад

      @@bobpolo2964see Matthew 16:16. This is what the Father (not flesh and blood) revealed.

  • @alvinmeeks5742
    @alvinmeeks5742 5 лет назад +1

    ears that cannot hear, eyes that donot see. True even now

  • @michaelm254
    @michaelm254 5 лет назад +1

    John 5:43
    “I am come in
    my Father's name,
    and ye receive me not:
    if another shall come in his own name,
    him ye will receive.”
    𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤔𐤏
    𐤉𐤄𐤅𐤄
    𐤀𐤕
    Matthew 13:13
    “Therefore speak I
    to them in parables:
    because they seeing
    see not;
    and
    hearing they
    hear not,
    neither do they understand.”
    Bless you

  • @TheChadWork2001
    @TheChadWork2001 5 лет назад +3

    They ARE speaking with forked tongue. And have been since the beginning.

  • @GatheringJacob
    @GatheringJacob 5 лет назад

    Hello brother, I see you haven’t done any videos in months and I pray all is well. You have been such a blessing to me, I hope to hear from you!

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@thetrinitysolution9631 No multiple cut and paste spamming. Learn how to behave like a grown up.

    • @thetrinitysolution9631
      @thetrinitysolution9631 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion What's juvenile about trying to get the word out to as many people as possible?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@thetrinitysolution9631 A truly juvenile response. It's immature to behave like a troll and go on a spamming mission. This is not up for debate. Shape up or ship out. Post a link if you like but this channel is not your own personal billboard. Spam your own channel if you like. Grow up.

    • @thetrinitysolution9631
      @thetrinitysolution9631 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion To be honest, I thought you would just delete those links as soon as you saw them. I'm not saying I agree with you about whether I should have posted them or not but I'll delete them when I get home. I have to admit, Kell, the fact that you left them there says something for you. I'll be sure to mention that in my next video.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@thetrinitysolution9631 RUclips placed a dozen or more of them in my Spam folder.

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 5 лет назад +1

    Satan sure has been busy down here. No slouch the old dragon.

  • @ianpaul7895
    @ianpaul7895 3 года назад

    Great lecture. I would love to hear a message that focuses on just the last four or five minutes.

  • @dnw8720
    @dnw8720 5 лет назад +4

    I most definitely agree with your assertions about the trinity, but I'm confused as to your view of Messiah himself. Do you not believe that he was preexistent?
    Unrelatedly, there are a lot of interesting Christian teachers online, but you're the one whose brain I'd most like to pick. You seem to have a great handle on things, and I, like many Christians, have millions of questions. Naturally, neither of us has the time to peruse them all, but I'd at least like to have your opinions on Hebrew Roots, most notably as taught by John Lawson and UNLEARN the lies(both here on RUclips). I want nothing more than to please the Father, but I'm very much torn as to which path my faith should take.
    Your hard work and time is much appreciated. Keep it up.

    • @austin3789
      @austin3789 5 лет назад +4

      No he doesn't believe that Jesus preexisted. I really don't understand on what scriptural basis he denies this. I think he believes he can explain away all the verses about him pre-existing, so he doesn't believe he needs to believe it..

    • @sasquatchmeridian3094
      @sasquatchmeridian3094 5 лет назад +2

      Austin : I haven't yet found a key salvational text which demands we must believe the Christ had a preexistent life. Do you know if one exists?

    • @bardowesselius4121
      @bardowesselius4121 5 лет назад +6

      We believe Jesus only preexisted in the mind of God, as the promised messiah in the divine plan God had before creation.

    • @dnw8720
      @dnw8720 5 лет назад +4

      Thanks for your collective input. I've adjusted a lot of my doctrinal views over the last few years, so I'm open to anything that can be proven with scripture, even if it contradicts the mainstream. Having said that, there seems to be ample evidence that Messiah has been with the Father since the beginning. How would you all respond to verses like John 3:13, 6:33, 38, 62, 8:23, 16:28, 17:5, Colossians 1:16-17, and Hebrews 1:2?
      These passages in particular seem pretty ironclad to me, regardless of the translation. Am I missing something?

    • @bardowesselius4121
      @bardowesselius4121 5 лет назад +1

      @@dnw8720try his website for verses:
      thetrinitydelusion.com
      Or
      biblicalunitarian.com
      They have also many verses explained.

  • @peterstewart2574
    @peterstewart2574 5 лет назад +2

    vary good , to the point och .

  • @johnrome6457
    @johnrome6457 3 года назад

    Thank you, so much.

  • @tahquameken
    @tahquameken 5 лет назад

    Many great points as usual. Being born again is one of the most important things. It's especially important for trinitarians to understand this since their doctrine could lead them farther away from it.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      Who do you say that Jesus is?

    • @tahquameken
      @tahquameken 5 лет назад

      @@bobpolo2964 Matthew 16:16

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      @@tahquameken Is Jesus the adopted son of God?

    • @tahquameken
      @tahquameken 5 лет назад

      @@bobpolo2964 Begotten son, not adopted.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      @@tahquameken Is He divine?

  • @jrbontje2415
    @jrbontje2415 5 лет назад

    Do you have a video about being born again? I’d like to hear more about your thoughts on that.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/FWbn1feB4Qo/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/4_yr6mFCTig/видео.html

  • @tsevaoth
    @tsevaoth 5 лет назад

    Dr Michael Haiser scholar says that today theologians discovered that the root of monogenes is not ( necessary) refers as a bigotten but is rather ( the same essence), I think is just another trinitarian scholars trick to validate this doctrine!

  • @scottbrownawell1420
    @scottbrownawell1420 5 лет назад +1

    Jesus of Nazareth is the Only Begotten son, and there are the sons of God, bene ha Elohim, and we are made into the sons of God if we are led by the spirit of God,..

  • @danielverhulst1378
    @danielverhulst1378 2 года назад

    No one has seen God at any time: No one can see the nature, or essence, of God, for to see God is to die (Ex 33:20). Only One who is Himself divine can see God, and thus the Son is the only One who can declare Him. This revelation of God's energies can be received by the faithful. Moses saw the "back" of God (Ex 33:21-23); Isaiah saw His glory (see Is 6:1; John 12:41).

  • @m_collins
    @m_collins 5 лет назад

    John 1:14 - This would be one..."The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." The Word is identified as Jesus, the Son, Sent by the father.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      Amen, it's pretty clear in the text

  • @cpom11
    @cpom11 5 лет назад

    Thats a good point about sonship before and after the cross...

  • @Blitzburg1800
    @Blitzburg1800 Год назад

    When Mary was pregnant is the trinity personified

  • @peterstewart2574
    @peterstewart2574 5 лет назад +1

    Yep Jesus has show me the Father ,.We are not sinless with out Jesus , and if you know how the Holy Spirit work in are lives . They working so hard in saying Jesus is God they don't tell people about the commandment or about the Holy Spirit , or the love of God . But they are asking for money for there car , house's , plane's . And how you can have all this if if you give your money to them , and people do ,"lost sheep ".

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      Will you bow the knee at the feet of Jesus on the last day?

  • @m_collins
    @m_collins 5 лет назад +1

    Begotten speaks of the Incarnation...The Second Person of the Trinity taking on Human Flesh. It's not a big problem, it's a mystery.

    • @Mckaule
      @Mckaule 5 лет назад

      Sinless human being Jesus predestined by God gave his life for us that we could have eternal life through him. Because of that God said to man Jesus to sit at His right hand, that is to rule over all God's creation because Jesus was trustful and worthy. That is a great truth and no mystery, because God is not hiding and is not speaking in secret codes. Babylon MYSTERY religion does.. "and he said, “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the SON OF MAN standing at the right hand of GOD !”
      Acts 7:56

  • @Mckaule
    @Mckaule 5 лет назад

    I wonder why Hebrews 11:17 says that Isaac was monogenes son of Abraham when he already had Ishmael ? Even in when God said Abraham to take Isaac he said take your only son or something similar..

    • @nb3500
      @nb3500 4 года назад

      @Mckaule The verse you're referring to is Genesis 22:2 and God called Isaac Abraham's only son because Isaac was Abraham's only son that was with him at the time God said that because Ishmael had left Abraham before this (Genesis 21). And in regards to Hebrews 11:17, I don't think monogenés implies begetting (and I'm a Biblical Unitarian). It's clear that Hebrews is using "monogenés" to say that Isaac was a unique one before explaining how he was unique (i.e. it was through him that the promise was made). And its usage in John 1:18 doesn't support trinitarians either. The verse is more correctly translated as "a unique one, theos, has made him known" with "theos" being the word for God but when used for men it signifies one who is like God (cf. John 10:34/Psalm 82:6). It's like when unclean men are called dogs (Revelation 22:15) because like dogs they're unclean. Considering this if we go back to John 1:18 it makes a lot of sense here with one who is like God being one who makes God known. And it's clear that John doesn't use the word "theos" here for Jesus as meaning he is actually God because in the same verse he says that no one has seen God at any time. This apparent contradiction could explain why someone would have been inclined to change the text from "theos" (God) to "huios" (son).

  • @johnlee1818
    @johnlee1818 5 лет назад

    Where are you based my friend?👍

  • @readlesspraymore4686
    @readlesspraymore4686 10 месяцев назад

    Well.... trins believe YHWH beget Himself in Psalm 2:7.... so I don't think they will see the irrationality behind the begotten God declaring the unbegotten God. Delusion is right.

  • @lakerstekkenn
    @lakerstekkenn 5 лет назад +1

    It's saying that Jesus is the Only Uniquely Born From a Virgin Chosen Son of God.
    Meaning the Only Begotten Created without a Male, but Only From A Female Egg.
    Adam was Created Without Mother and Father, he's The Only Unbegotten Son Of God, in Greek το μόνο un γεννηθείς γιος του θεού, to móno un gennitheís gios tou theoú Adam.
    The only uniquely born from God is Jesus, born from a virgin.
    Now the Scribes changed it to the Only Uniquely Born from a Virgin, godly guided chosen person named Jesus.
    The prophets are the chosen above everyone else special and in powered by God the Sons of God.
    Everyone else is Gods uniquely chosen guided sons of God.
    Israel is also the chosen uniquely guided, meaning given the majority of prophets chosen people above all nations as an example sons of God.
    This is what the scriptures are saying, but nobodies super special except his righteous believers and His Servants, His Anointed Prophets Specially Chosen and Guided by God, the Ones Willing To Die for their belief and Gods guidance because of their people's sins transgressions.
    This is what the scriptures are saying and why only begotten is interchangeable.

    • @T1985-q1d
      @T1985-q1d 5 лет назад

      Monogenes translates to Hebrew word.יָחַד, Which means "One of a Kind", "Only". It is similar to Hebrew word "Echad".

    • @lakerstekkenn
      @lakerstekkenn 5 лет назад

      @@T1985-q1d monogenes has a variety of meanings mono means only and genes means to beget biblehub.com/greek/1085.htm
      /génos, "offspring, stock") - properly, one-and-only; "one of a kind" - literally, "one (monos) of a class, genos" (the only of its kind).
      3411 /misthōtós, "one-and-only" biblehub.com/greek/3411.htm
      it can mean one and only begotten threw sexual intercourse children and not adopted.
      Or a uniquely one of a kind created like Jesus from a virgin and this is what the Gospels tell us.
      Jesus was a uniquely created servant of God.
      Because Jesus isn't the only begotten son of God because this is spoken of King David in the Psalms, I will declare and decree on this day I have begotten you, (chosen you as my Messiah and prophet servant) and King David was anointed.
      The greatest King of Israel David was also figuratively begotten by God.
      1 Samuel 16:12
      New International Version
      So he sent for him and had him brought in. He was glowing with health and had a fine appearance and handsome features. Then the LORD said, "Rise and anoint him; this is the one."

  • @bobpolo2964
    @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

    If Jesus isn't the divine Son of God, then we got a major case of idolatry on our hands

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      Sorry but NO. You would have your own confusion on your hands.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion Do you worship Jesus Christ?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@bobpolo2964 Of course - the same way Israel worshiped God's Christ, their Lord, King David.

    • @bobpolo2964
      @bobpolo2964 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheTrinityDelusion All of creation will be bowing the knee and confessing Christ as LORD. This is the same kind of worship Israel demonstrated for David?

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@bobpolo2964 Yes.

  • @Fred63205
    @Fred63205 5 лет назад

    The prophets weren't sons of YHWH? Why would YHWH save Daniel from a lion if he were not a son or guarentee his inheritance if he were not a son? Or give Noah permission to eat of all the creatures who walked the earth a permission he did not give Israel

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      Ex 4:22; Hos 11:1

    • @Fred63205
      @Fred63205 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion and yet they were not permitted to eat of all the creatures of the land and sea as Noah was Genesis 9:3 "I now give you all things" an honor nobody heard from YHWH except Noah, and yet he's no son?

    • @Fred63205
      @Fred63205 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion Lazarus was resurrected

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад

      @@Fred63205 Is he still living?

    • @Fred63205
      @Fred63205 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion no idea. Doesn't say

  • @michaelspinner9881
    @michaelspinner9881 9 месяцев назад

    You are incorrect. Please see Hebrews 11:17 Isaac is referred to as Abraham’s only begotten son but we know that he isn’t Abraham’s literal first begotten son because Ishmael is. He is however the one of a kind or unique only begotten in the fact he was his first begotten with Sarah and therefore in the covenant God made with Abraham. Jesus is a unique one of a kind or monogenes because he is the only one of his kind with a human mother and God as his Fathet (no human father) no one else ever born can say that. See also first born. David is said to be the first born king in psalms but he was neither the literal first king of Israel (he was the second) and he was not the first born of his siblings (he was the youngest of 9).

  • @peterhanley826
    @peterhanley826 5 лет назад +1

    Message to Universe, Universe, Please bear in mind, that this is your opinion, probably based on your upbringing and your culture, which your supposed to believe, and not question. Admittedly, most Christians do not really believe what the bible says, and thus we have thousands of different denominations warring among each other. (Satan, is rather, a master at creating such tension and division). Mohammed had his own opinions, loosely based on the scriptures, probably highly influenced by the Catholic Church and its role in devising Islam, (if you research the foundations of Islam, you will unearth such information) and founded this religion based on his opinions as directed by the Antichrist (instead of Christ) Catholic church. That does not make Islam true, as you claim, it is only an opinion. The day of judgement will reveal what is true, and what is false, what is of God, and what is not of God. I intend putting my faith fully in Jesus being the son of the one true God who died for my sins. I may be wrong about that, but I would bet my life on it, and one day soon, it may cost me my life at the hands of those who might hate me for my opinion. The bible warns me of this potential. I take it seriously. Mohammed, seemingly didn't. You do not have to follow his opinion, you are free to choose. Choose Jesus, or reject Jesus, your choice.

    • @TheTrinityDelusion
      @TheTrinityDelusion  5 лет назад +2

      "probably based on your upbringing and your culture"
      I was raised to be a Trinitarian and was one for 40 years

    • @kahnfredrick8021
      @kahnfredrick8021 5 лет назад

      Jesus said I and the Father are one ! Powerful verse ! John 10:30 Read John17:11 John 17:22 !Then Read John 14:28 !Then read Matthew 13:13 All then verse and them Chapters! Read them brother! John 20 ! Ask jesus to make you new my friend Ask jesus open your eyes to walk in the spirit,so you can walk in spirit amen ! Jesus is way to learn the truth to come out of false doctrines Denial said it Revalations 17 read it ! Love is powerful amen

    • @tiffanywright6653
      @tiffanywright6653 5 лет назад

      (plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
      (luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High.
      (John 17:3) Eteranal(Everlasting ) Life. Amen

    • @tiffanywright6653
      @tiffanywright6653 5 лет назад

      @@kahnfredrick8021 Exodus 33:20) no man can see God's face and live. People saw Jesus.
      (John 1:18) No Man has seen God at anytime. People saw jesus. So therefore according to Greek mauscripts Jesus is a God he's godlike but he is not God Almighty.
      Acts 10:38 Jehovah God gave Jesus power to heal people and raise the dead Perform Miracles. Jesus and Jehovah are not the same being but they do have the same qualities so I urge you open up your Bible and read the scriptures I posted.

    • @peterhanley826
      @peterhanley826 5 лет назад

      @@TheTrinityDelusion That is part of the mystery of our individual journey to truth. I was raised with no religion, and thus was an atheist who hated the idea, of there being a God, as after-all, we were just byproducts of godless evolution. Through religious education at school, God made Himself very real to me. I became a believer in the bible with One God and one Jesus (Unitarian) I then got into a church that taught Jesus was also God with the usual "proofs". (so then I had a binary God) Then that church became Trinitarian, with the usual "proofs", and that was the beginning of the long road out of that church as God showed me through your channel and other sources the errors of such thinking. So, there is hope for us all, if we trust the scriptures, even our Muslim viewer by the name of Universe, if he will study them. (John 8, 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32, And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free). I firmly believe that God is using you mightily to set people free from their delusions. You have certainly helped me.

  • @fcode9310
    @fcode9310 5 лет назад

    You know that YHWH has sons according to Job.

  • @thetrinitysolution9631
    @thetrinitysolution9631 5 лет назад

    Response Video Part 1: ruclips.net/video/D4JEm39pXLo/видео.html
    Response Video Part 2: ruclips.net/video/mfrp_iEAybA/видео.html