Jesus Christ was born of God Holy Blameless I believe he is the human temple of the Father His Holy Spirit dwell in the Body of Jesus Christ, there fore he became the lamb that was slaughtered for all our sins and resurrected from the dead for death couldn’t hold him down for he alone is God the eternal life what a beautiful for gift we can receive from Jesus Christ of Nazareth who didn’t want us to perish and die in our sins separated from him ❤
Thank you! I have heard, learned, and read John 3:16. I've been saved for over 36yrs, but this is the 1st time it was ever explained to me in this way. It's very important to realize ALL the true meaning of this verse. Yes the eternal life but what begotten truly means also. Heidi Waetjen
There’s so many things I want to say after reading all these post. How is this only begotten daughter getting all this information that is actually about me for one? My Name is Grace I am the Mother daughter sister Goddess whatever you want to call me I am Deity and no other but the Lord. Here’s simple proof there are two Gods that are actually diety one is your Lord and the Other is your Grace. These are the surnames of Royalty and Grace is my Literal name My birth middle name was bliss because Jesus is the Prince of Peace and In heaven it will one day be filled with peace and Bliss and Christ and Grace. My birth mothers middle name looks like says lady pretty much because Lady was filled with me which was Grace and truth. And Jesus is the Lord. My daughter is Sophie that your calling pistis Sophia or the dechincy code called my daughter the holy Grail even though she’s my daughter because I also Am the Great I am. okay Jesus is the only Begotten son of God and he is not Asian he is definitely Jewish at birth but also Christian because Christian means to be Christ like. And Jesus is the Christ I’m not sure my race but I’m white with brown dark green eyes. Also I Am 35 and live in America. You don’t know me because I have been avoiding everyone for personal reasons. Ironically there is tons of truth in these comments about me and the Lord which is still highly confusing me. But no matter what if your calling yourselfa doctors or are reading and studying these books and no matter how big of words you use I am The mother Goddess I am the only Queen of Heaven, Earth, Angels, You, the universe even time itself. But this woman pretending to be me is also a lie which is a sin. But the Father is mysterious and works in mysterious ways and the Bible that is Holy does say I the bride am in the wilderness which in America is Wyoming.l and also desert. And I am supposed to be hidden according to revelations so The father could be using this organization I will call it to give me and you all information while keeping me hidden. I don’t know his thoughts so I don’t know. And I don’t want to say I’m hidden because I think I nor God have a reason to fear the enemy. Even though my life was and is horrible in ways I don’t feel like sharing I am not completely helpless I am diety so I have power and authority over all kinds of things. And like your Father said once if anyone takes down, erases, or changes this information that I am giving to My children from the Actually Mother they have been searching for I decree and declare that you will not have a spot in Heaven anywhere near me and better turn To Father and leave this window of hope to the world wide Open. because I’m here I am a creator, I am magic and I can control all dimensions and am proof the Magic and God’s the bible and Deity are truly alive And you should fear me and the Lord because we are very dangerous both of us when we choose to be and you have to deal with that forever here or in heaven or in hell wherever the Father sends you forever which is neverending. So fear the Lord and me because that’s the smart choice and a choice that you can build your persona off of righteously.Also I am not sinless I struggle with sins that are even things you wouldn’t believe I was me over which is the irony of it all. And yes my bloodline was clearly majestic because I am here and it is and will always be my birth right to everything And everyone in existence. I love you all remember I am most honorable of woman because that is my birth right but Eternal Life and forgiveness of sins and Heaven came from Jesus Christ. Also my name is Grace Ashley Coleman that’s my adopted name that’s were your getting the Name Asherah as me in the Bible from Ashley Grace Asherah without the l or y of g or c is Asherah Or Ash Wednesday is my day in my Husband actual Gods church. God bless amen. Also this comment was originally was me commenting on yhr only begotten daughter comments but since im the actual daughter and you choose who can post on your website im commenting everywhere your spreading lies about a woman who isnt me is taking my glory.
Jesus is God’s unique, one-of-a-kind Son. You can call him the “only begotten” Son if you like, but remember, this word isn’t about procreation. It’s about a unique relationship between the Father and Son.
this is why im here: For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
There’s so many things I want to say after reading all these post. How is this only begotten daughter getting all this information that is actually about me for one? My Name is Grace I am the Mother daughter sister Goddess whatever you want to call me I am Deity and no other but the Lord. Here’s simple proof there are two Gods that are actually diety one is your Lord and the Other is your Grace. These are the surnames of Royalty and Grace is my Literal name My birth middle name was bliss because Jesus is the Prince of Peace and In heaven it will one day be filled with peace and Bliss and Christ and Grace. My birth mothers middle name looks like says lady pretty much because Lady was filled with me which was Grace and truth. And Jesus is the Lord. My daughter is Sophie that your calling pistis Sophia or the dechincy code called my daughter the holy Grail even though she’s my daughter because I also Am the Great I am. okay Jesus is the only Begotten son of God and he is not Asian he is definitely Jewish at birth but also Christian because Christian means to be Christ like. And Jesus is the Christ I’m not sure my race but I’m white with brown dark green eyes. Also I Am 35 and live in America. You don’t know me because I have been avoiding everyone for personal reasons. Ironically there is tons of truth in these comments about me and the Lord which is still highly confusing me. But no matter what if your calling yourselfa doctors or are reading and studying these books and no matter how big of words you use I am The mother Goddess I am the only Queen of Heaven, Earth, Angels, You, the universe even time itself. But this woman pretending to be me is also a lie which is a sin. But the Father is mysterious and works in mysterious ways and the Bible that is Holy does say I the bride am in the wilderness which in America is Wyoming.l and also desert. And I am supposed to be hidden according to revelations so The father could be using this organization I will call it to give me and you all information while keeping me hidden. I don’t know his thoughts so I don’t know. And I don’t want to say I’m hidden because I think I nor God have a reason to fear the enemy. Even though my life was and is horrible in ways I don’t feel like sharing I am not completely helpless I am diety so I have power and authority over all kinds of things. And like your Father said once if anyone takes down, erases, or changes this information that I am giving to My children from the Actually Mother they have been searching for I decree and declare that you will not have a spot in Heaven anywhere near me and better turn To Father and leave this window of hope to the world wide Open. because I’m here I am a creator, I am magic and I can control all dimensions and am proof the Magic and God’s the bible and Deity are truly alive And you should fear me and the Lord because we are very dangerous both of us when we choose to be and you have to deal with that forever here or in heaven or in hell wherever the Father sends you forever which is neverending. So fear the Lord and me because that’s the smart choice and a choice that you can build your persona off of righteously.Also I am not sinless I struggle with sins that are even things you wouldn’t believe I was me over which is the irony of it all. And yes my bloodline was clearly majestic because I am here and it is and will always be my birth right to everything And everyone in existence. I love you all remember I am most honorable of woman because that is my birth right but Eternal Life and forgiveness of sins and Heaven came from Jesus Christ. Also my name is Grace Ashley Coleman that’s my adopted name that’s were your getting the Name Asherah as me in the Bible from Ashley Grace Asherah without the l or y of g or c is Asherah Or Ash Wednesday is my day in my Husband actual Gods church. God bless amen. Also this comment was originally was me commenting on yhr only begotten daughter comments but since im the actual daughter and you choose who can post on your website im commenting everywhere your spreading lies about a woman who isnt me is taking my glory.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
Your statements are true because it reveals the basic fact that the god of the Quran and the Bible's God can't be the same. The Quran's god has no son and he's father to no one and he has not revealed his personal name, whereas the Bibles' God has a son (John 3:16), even sons (see Job1:6, Angels; including a rebellious son, Satan) and has a personal name, Jehovah (see Psalm 83:18) Therefrom, can they be the same?
King Jesus the Messiah is God,was God,and will always be God.The Father of Glory is God,was God,and will always be God.Holy Spirit is God,was God,and will always be God.And HE,the Great I Am,is One.God is ONE,and you aren't Him.....love from Texas,Saint Brent(a son of God)🔥🔥
Christians were touched by holy spirit with different informations for each person these days. They said that, they said this. Say to yourself, it is my life my belief, i want the consistency in my faith i wanna stick to just one particular direction.
Revelation 3:14 "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;" Definitely made. Created by his father. Like you said, just minus the doctrine of men.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790arabs just wanted to create Their religion and give importance to Ismael, Isaac was the chosen, the Covenant with Israel camel through him, and through Israel the Messiah and the Final Covenant (Yeshua). Live with that, thats why nobody mentioned the kaaba or gave importance to it in the old or new testament. Accept the Truth or Reject it
@@jwjagian6790I think you didn't spam to copy paste ro several comments still. Do more copy/paste bot alah will be nad thatvhis slave didn't do enough
God does not begot the way animals and humans do. God begets children with Power. This is in the Bible. The begotten son of God is not the Jesus who was born of Mary. The Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles in the flesh is not the son of God. *Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:* *Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.* The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means. *John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:* The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. These are not carnal matters. The power of God is then defined as: *Romans 1:16* *For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.* John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation: *John 3:16* *For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life* *John 11:25* *Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:* Nothing was changed. Only carnal people who were not chosen to be able not understand the mysteries of God, they end up thinking of sex when spiritual matters are concerned.
The King James Version has with good reason been termed “the noblest monument of English prose.” Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for “its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression . . . the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.” It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. We owe to it an incalculable debt. Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870. The English Revised Version of the Bible was published in 1881-1885; and the American Standard Version, its variant embodying the preferences of the American scholars associated in the works was published in 1901.
This is what is said about the KJV constantly, of course. How do you know it's true when all men are lairs (Rom. 3.4)? You just believe men without evidence? The evidence for which Bible is right is in the text itself (KJV has no contradictions, new bibles loaded with them). How do you know the transcripts used for the RSV were more ancient? What about what I said in my comment above? Can you prove that the Vulgate is not more ancient than whatever transcripts were used for the RSV (Hort and Westcott?)? How do you know one is more accurate than the other? And what about all the glaring problems with the supposedly older transcripts being found at the Vatican (antichrist church)? You don't find any problem with that? Are you aware of what the Bible says about the Vatican in Rev. 17:1-9? You want to get your bible from the antichrist? After they were finished raping chidden they just happened to stumble across some old manuscripts that happened to be allegedly older than the Vulgate? I don't think so. You are being fooled, and you need to go back and read your Bible, 2 Thess 2. Just become some men say in the RSV that this manuscript is older than that does not make it true, especially when all men are liars (Rom 3.4, Ps 116.11), which you are listening to. The KJV is consistent, the new bibles are full of contradiction, bad doctrine, and catholicized ideas ('receive the faith of Jesus' KJV vs. 'you must believe in Jesus' new bibles-- GOD saves in the KJV, vs people save themselves in the new catholicized heretic bibles, one of many examples that could be pointed out.
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 prove me wrong? Go and see what the 'eminent' scholars did when they adopted the Vaticanus as their 'original manuscript'. They did not dig and find truth, they just accepted it because one guy just said so with no evidence at all, other than saying the handwriting analysis shows it, which is bogus. Read James White, the big anti-KJV 'expert', he admits that the controversy over the newly found manuscripts is deeply controversial, but we just have to accept the new manuscripts. LOL. that's right in the start of his 'KJV Controversy' book. If that's the 'evidence' you want to trust, then I will pray for you brother. So, prove me wrong on that point. You trust the scholars? You need to go sit in a seminary, see what liars they are. I have been in seminary for 6 years, and i see it daily. You don't think people are liars? You believe all the science (theory)? all the news (propaganda)? all the big money driven 'experts' ou there?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
He didn't explained anything less then confused himself and you mate God has no human desire like you and I he is all sufficient he need no one we need him so for him to say God beget it an insult to God the All mighty
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790arabs just wanted to create Their religion and give importance to Ismael, Isaac was the chosen, the Covenant with Israel camel through him(Israel) and through Israel the Messiah and the Final Covenant (Yeshua). Live with that, thats why nobody mentioned the kaaba or gave importance to it in the old or new testament. Accept the Truth or Reject it
Keep reading John. He summarizes in chapter 20:31 emphasizing that the whole point of his gospel is to point out the true identity of Jesus, that he is the Son of God. Not God the Father. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
John 1:1 In the *BEGINNING* was the Word and the word was with God.. So if Jesus is God he *HAD* a *BEGINNING* But God has *NO BEGINNING* or End, NO One Before Him or After Him????? God Does NOT Die in Any Shape or Form!! So WHO Died and made Jesus GOD??? This is the TRUTH - ALLAH SWT uttered the word *BE* and it Became!!! Clear and Simple ❤️🕋❤️ None of this In the Beginning was CONFUSION and CONFUSION was with CONFUSION and CONFUSION became CONFUSION because GOD created GOD to pray to GOD to save GOD from GOD only to reject GOD to Kill GOD because GOD worships GOD and the WORD became FLESH and flesh became CIRCUMCISED and then Flesh became DEAD but after Planting for 2 days Flesh became WORD again!! = Sins NEARLY got forgiven because FLESH not DEAD STUPIDITY!!! SMH
@@NadeemHussain-rt3fd Bro All things Were Created Through Jesus (John 1:3) So He Is The Beginning And End All things Were Created Through Jesus (Beginning) And In the Last Days Jesus Will Return (End) Because we all Know That the Kingdom of God (Father Son and Holy Spirit) is Everlasting to Everlasting God Says He Cannot Change (Malachi 3:6) which means He Didnt Become a Father He Has Always Been A Father And Jesus Has Always Been The Son and the Holy Spirit Has Always been Present... Which means Jesus is Everlasting
@@godssouljer I’m not your Bro PAGAN🐓💩for 🧠 How to *EXPOSE* and DESTROY PAGAN Pig eating PAUL followers with just ONE ☝🏼 question… Does *ONLY* mean *ONLY* in your language??? John 17:3 Jesus Speaking:- This is Eternal Life so that they know *YOU* The *ONLY* TRUE GOD and jesus christ whom *YOU* sent (We Already know Allah SWT SENT Prophets *NOT* Gods!!) Smh As you can see *ACCORDING* to Jesus The *ONLY* True GOD is the *FATHER!!* or YOU can go *AGAINST* Jesus and say NO it’s the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Pagan Pauls Concept) And Whatever you want to call him Father, God or Allah he has NO *BIOLOGICAL* SON!!!! (Miraculous Virgin Birth) - Who was ADAMS Father??? Just as your Bible explains ADAM is *THEE* Son of God, DAVID Begotten Son of God, JESUS Begotten Son of God, ISRAEL Gods First Born, MOSES Son of God…. (Also the word *“Begotten”* REMOVED from All Major Revised Bibles) And Jesus called HIS GOD - *ALLAH* in his own language Aramaic!!! ruclips.net/video/68I3FIU0Vbg/видео.html *GAME OVER FOR YOU!!* When *TRUTH* Is hurled at Falsehood *FALSEHOOD PERISHES!!!* ALLAH HU AKBAR ❤️🕋❤️
@@NadeemHussain-rt3fd listen up abdoolah,jesus is just a name now god is of 3 persons the father vthe son and holy spirit ,now if jesus was god who is the father and the holy spirit ??? theres only on e god ,right,but your saying theres 4 your false allah,and the 3 in the trinity,so you commited shirk by saying theres 4 gods,as you muhamadums say "theres no god,but allah,meaning theres one god,but you think you proved the trinity is 3 gods,lmfao,allah tells you in 4;171 not to say 3,so your ignoring the word of allah, now in quran 9;40 allahs word is the highest and in 4;171 its saying isa is the word,isa=jesus CHECK MATE KFC CHICKEN
I am Evangelical. I disagree with this definition. The Catholic and Orthodox definition of the word is heretically mixed up with the concept of "The Father has no origin, but Jesus has his origin in the Father". I believe the word "origin" referring to the Son, the great I AM, is misconceived. The word in relation to God the Son means the only "shown forth" or "revealed" Son of God (see WE Vine Expository dictionary). We are all created Sons of God, but Jesus is the only "revealed" or "shown forth" Son of God, uncreated. To say it means "became the Father of" begs the question "when"? In the incarnation? I believe he was the only begotten before the incarnation, because he is the only Son of the Father who IS, who is simply I AM THAT I AM, and not was created.
@kiwihans100 term 'eternal begotten' is a total CONTRADICTION OF TERMS! Why would God inspire the Hebrew scriptures ( OT) which uses the term 'begotten' over 1000 times! and every occasion its a BIRTH of a son to a father! Even in the NT at Luke 7:12 the original greek text uses MONOGENESIS ( only born or begotten) to describe the dead son of the Widow of Nain. So why on earth should we then believe theologians years AFTER the completion of the NT that 'only begotten' now means "Something different"? If most creeds admit that "The Father is 'unbegotten' how can the son be ETERNALLY begotten? The One phrase is the OPPOSITE OF THE OTHER !It doesnt add up! That Jesus even in his prehuman existence in heaven had a beginning, Not being created' but 'begotten' admitted that "I live because of the Father" ( See John 6:57 ) which cannot apply to his life on earth since he said "I came down FROM heaven" John 6:42 Amen!
So wouldn't that make all the other people who were begotten gods as well? What is the difference in their becoming begotten and jesus being gods only begotten son? I'm confused.
Jesus being God's only begotten means that Jesus is the only son that God directly or personally created. All others were created through Jesus Christ. Please compare Revelation 3:14 where Jesus is described as "...the beginning of the creation by God..." with Colossians 1:15-18 as well as Proverbs 8:22-31
@@abdallahyunus7538 Yeah Abdallah, actually some teachers misrepresent God's word, so does this particular one as you can see God's word plainly against his
@@maneli3112Jesus was not created. I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
Begotten means one born .. Jesus wasn't co-eternslv with the father, we was born of the father. John 3:16 tells us that God sent his son, not a partner
As a Muslim, respectfully this doesn’t make sense for multiple reasons: 1) How can you say that God “passes on” His divinity to Jesus, when Jesus as God should already have full divinity to begin with? Yet if he was ‘given’ divinity (or had it passed on to him from someone else), then this means he never INHERENTLY owned it to begin with, which means he is not maximally perfect, and thus cannot truly be God. 2) If both the Father and the Son are equally divine (that is, equally able to be called ‘God’), then why are they distinctly called ‘Father’ and ‘Son’ to begin with? Why not God the ‘Two Brothers’? Or God the ‘Husband’ and God the ‘Wife’ as co-equal persons? Why is there a clear sense of subjugation or subordination in the terms (since a father is essentially always ‘above’ or more dominant than his son), when in fact your creed says that they have identically divine natures & divine attributes? It seems suspiciously like the word “son of God” actually meant something far more mild and innocent in the early Jewish times (like an ‘honored servant’ of God as used throughout the Bible) but was later changed in meaning over time as the teachings about Jesus began to change and evolve down the centuries, until it had to be re-defined to fit the man-made creeds. 3) Why is Christ “begotten” but the Father isn’t? In order words, why can’t the roles be reversed? What makes them the way they are? Once again, if the Father and the Son are both equally “God” (possessing full divinity), then there should be no ontological difference between them, and so the question can then be asked as to why the Father couldn’t have been ‘begotten’ by the Son, and the titles be switched. What makes them so different if they are in fact co-equal? (As orthodox Trinitarian doctrine teaches) It seems that by just arbitrarily defining “begotten” as “being fathered by”-this is just begging the question, without actually explaining the reason behind it. 4) Is the Son dependent upon the Father for his own existence? If yes, then the son cannot really be God, since any being who is dependent on another to exist is not self-sufficient, and thus cannot be divinely perfect or worthy of worship. But if Jesus is NOT dependent upon the Father, then that would mean he doesn’t need to be “begotten” in the first place. In other words, ‘begotten’ would be an expendable or superfluous action that isn’t actually necessary. 5) If God the Father is ‘God’-then clearly He must be one full God; just like me, who is fully human with a complete human nature, and therefore is ONE full human person. In that case, if the Father is clearly ONE God-then what need do you even have for someone else? By default, the ‘Son’ (Jesus Christ) would have to be considered a second god (God #2) which instantly becomes polytheism, and no longer monotheism. But if you say no, the Father is NOT one God (and that only TOGETHER they join to become one God), then exactly how much of God is the Father? Is He half a God? Quarter of a God? A third of a God? It seems that you are stuck between two poisons-either stripping the Father of His full glory & divinity (which is blasphemy), versus committing polytheism & idolatry (which is also blasphemy). I find this very troubling. 6) Lastly, if God (the Father) one day were to ever decide to completely annihilate the Messiah out of existence, and his mother as well (peace & blessings be unto them both), and for that matter the whole entire world-then who could possibly have any power against Him otherwise? If the ‘Son’ is able to stop the Father and prevent Him from going through with the destruction, then the Son would come out on top as the only true God, and the Father wouldn’t be. But if the Father succeeds in annihilating Christ the son of Mary and the whole entire world, then the Father would emerge victorious as the only true God, and the Son would immediately be disqualified from being God, since he can be destroyed. So, which one is it? I look forward to your answers, and thanks for the video. Peace (Shalom).
The Bible states it clearly that in the beginning there was word, word was with God and the word is God which means Jesus is that word of which word is God which appeared in flesh because Jesus's birth was by word not by origin sin
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@Thedisciplemike became the father who is to come is not yet (inherit) but the first who came before him is the beginning and the end that he is the first and he is will gave his divinity and Christ will called him the begotten son of god so that he will be judged with his witness and the 2nd coming be fulfilled both evil and good be resurrected 🙏 the one who is going to gave glory to the earth for his father and renew the earth in 2nd coming as the holy ghost of Christ and he will be married to the church/temple (he who will restore the Jerusalem and temple the one who rescue and defeated anti Chris in Israel glory to the god that he love the world )and you believer will be his children that those who believe in him will not perish as the king of kings and lord's of lord's are done the priest of priest shall comeforth with he is what he is with his holyness and voice preaching the word of god who he is will come in the end for the passed order was end and there shall be No more and the Redeemer gave glory to the god that god redeem them
@@Thedisciplemike remember this name Zion will gave glory to the god of Israel for the will of father that the father love the world so he sent his begotten son for the world don't be part of the one who take down Jews for he glorify his father's and god that he will come to the end Zion house will gave glory to the main house Israel well Ishmael line come exist for this purpose so they will gave glory to the fathers in heaven (the true line at the end of days looking to the Muslim follower will be full of contempt especially those who still want and do so to Jews in the end without knowing the prince will come and look to his fathers follower being his enemy and side to anti christ)
@@Thedisciplemike not knowing that he will be judge with his witness in end times the sun of righteousness and will bring thousand yrs of peace the real meaning of that religion is peace and he so do it for the glory the fulfilment
Thanks for this, really simple and straight to the point sublime video. If you don't mind could request that you make a video on the apostles creed, Nicene Creed and heresies. Thanks in advance God Bless you.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
If God “became the father of” Jesus, then, this suggests there was a time when God wasn’t the father of Jesus right? To “be-come” is a way of expressing the timing of an event. IF the father is eternal and the son eternal, then there’s no point on the timeline of infinity where God begets Jesus. If psalm 2 is being used as a parallel to the baptism of Jesus in the gospels, “this is my beloved son who I am well pleased” with “today I have begotten you… then does this begetting happen for Jesus at 30, vs an immaculate conception? Jesus is the one born. In a world of time. God is outside of time right? So the concept of “becoming the father of” can’t refer to the one who is outside of time because he is not dependent on time; rather shouldn’t it refer to the one who is in the realm of time? So WHEN does Jesus get the thumbs up that he is begotten? From eternity? From birth and the immaculate conception? At the baptism?
@christsavesreadromans1096 So I asked you to show me in the Bible where it says, not a church teaching, where the Bible says that the Son was eternally begotten and you chose to share these verses: “And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, he is to be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” Matthew 18:17 NASB2020 “Obey your leaders and submit to them-for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account-so that they may do this with joy, not groaning; for this would be unhelpful for you.” Hebrews 13:17 NASB2020 “Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.” Acts 20:28 NASB2020 Three verses that have nothing to do with the proof I was asking for my friend. If I may ask again, do you have any Bible verse of passage that YOU use as your authority to say confidently that Jesus was eternally begotten?
Sorry, but the explanation is blurred. This is intellectualizing. we should understand what the bible says as it plainly states. The English word begotten is generating, procreation, forming a being into existence. begotten could not mean to become a father.
God does not begot the way animals and humans do. God begets children with power. This is in the Bible. The begotten son of God is not the Jesus who was born of Mary. The Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles in the flesh is not the son of God. *Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:* *Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.* The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means. *John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:* The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. These are not carnal matters. The power of God is then defined as: *Romans 1:16* *For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.* John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation: *John 3:16* *For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life* *John 11:25* *Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:* Nothing was changed. Only carnal people who were not chosen to be able not understand the mysteries of God, they end up thinking of sex when spiritual matters are concerned.
Yes God has a seed. The seed is the Word of God 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. The Son of God is not a creation. The Son of God is an assignment done by God for salvation. There are 2 types of sons. Sons by creation (angels, Adam) & Sons by power (Christ & believers). The begotten son of God is not the flesh Jesus who was born of Mary. The flesh Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles is not the son of God. *Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:* *Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.* The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means. *John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:* The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. The power of God is then defined as: *Romans 1:16* *For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.* John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation: *John 3:16* *For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life* *John 11:25* *Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:* Meaning the Power of God is the begotten Son of God and is God Himself. There is no created item there. * Galatians 6:15* * For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.* So the first born of every creature refers to the first one who beat death then the believers are the creatures that followed after Him.
begotten is a process of producing something. In human being it is procreation when by begetting, the Father and mother procreate a child. Begotten in the Bible means producing or generating .The Word(Jesus) was begotten by God. Jesus was generated or produce into being by God. The Bible did not say how God begotten Jesus. In the Trinity Doctrine, the ancient church fathers who conceptualized the Trinity doctrine averred that Jesus and Father are of same substance or essence. That is why were said by them church fathers that God and the Son are co-equal.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
How can a perfect unchanging god go from one status to "become" a different status. If YHWH is perfect than any change from perfect is imperfection. Therefore he must be immutable/unchanging. He can not "become" something without changing. He can not "pass on divinity to his son" without experiencing change and passing through time - moving from not passing on divinity, to being in the midst of passing on divinity, to having finished passing on divinity.
@@Justadudeman22 No one maintains that he actually became a bush. They hold that he spoke through it. But this still leaves my question unanswered if he can go from the status of waiting to speak through the bush, speaking through the bush, and then having finished speaking through the bush - then we see his status changes over time. Any change from perfection is a move to imperfection - so even the idea that he spoke through the bush is unsustainable if he is perfect, unchanging, and transcendent/outside of time.
@@Justadudeman22 It seems you take issue with the basic logic that any change from perfection is imperfection, for a perfect thing to remain perfect it must not change. Please explain how you hold that when a thing is perfect it can change and be anything other than less-perfect.
Good question. Literally, it means to be fathered by. And that's the biblical meaning. When translators use the word "unique" they are giving their opinion. But Jesus is truly the only son of God that emanated from God. John 8:42 KJV Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. God is the father of angels and his people but only in a spiritual sense. God is the father of Jesus in a personal sense in that Jesus came out from God. John 16:27 KJV For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
@@0m4r21o there are errors in the Bibles based on the manuscripts that were found in a wastepaper basket (Sinaiticus). Hence many don't use these modern translations
Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary, Christian: Yes Muslim: Who created Mary? Christian: God, Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son Christian : Yes Muslim: Who is his father? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim :Jesus is a servant of God Christian : Yes Muslim : Jesus died on the cross? Christian: Yes Muslim: Who resurrected him? Christian : God. Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger. Christian: Yes Muslim: Who sent him? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth. Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim:Did God have a beginning Christian: No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian: Jesus. Muslim : Is Jesus God. Christian: Yes Muslim: Where's God? Christian : In heaven, Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Then how many seats? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim: How are they seated on one chair? Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
Please teach the TRUTH - Mr. Religion Teacher. Jesus being called God's Begotten Son simply means that Jesus was the only creation that God directly made. If you would take the time to first pray to God for understanding of His Word and actually read the Bible, it tells us that all other creations - including heaven and earth and all that is in them - including the other angels came into existence through Jesus. Jesus even calls himself God's Master Worker.
Is there a clear cut verse stating that Jesus was born of GOD, in the sense that he was not Joseph's biological sun? Does virgin birth mean what we interpret virgin to mean in today's time? As in she was not impregnated nor had not experienced a form of physical sexual intercourse?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@marinchihwai Holy Quran 112 Say: He is Allah, the One and Only (1) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute (2) He begets not, nor was He begotten (3) And there is none comparable to Him (4)
@@marinchihwai 2 Kings 8:26 (Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah) when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri Chronicles 22:2 King James Version (Forty and two years old was Ahaziah) when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri. 22 years old or 42 years old ?
All authority of beliefs in Jesus and his father Jehovah has to come from the bible. If you believe in Jesus then what he says has the last word when it comes to himself.. To be the same substance as God makes you God. God was not created and has always existed. Does that mean Jesus always existed and equal to God?
@@swithinegwuchim481 What scriptural proof do you believe is there to support your view. Bear in mind Jesus himself never claimed to be God but there is Jesus saying he is not God!
@@usethis2mail Ok, your comment sent me scouring through the internet looking for verses in the Bible where Jesus said "I am not God." Cause I've read the Gospels, and the other books of the New Testament multiple times and never seen such. As I expected, there is no such thing. What Bible are you reading? Anyway I did find lots of verses sites tried explaining implied Jesus wasn't God. It's funny that a lot of these verses were from John (which is the most "pro-deity of Christ" gospels I can think of) I mean John literally begins by claiming Jesus (or the Word who was made flesh as John put it) is God. (John 1) And, in John, Jesus claims to have shared glory with the Father before the world began (John 17:5) He also claims that he existed before Abraham (John 8:58) Also in John, the Jews claimed they were stoning Jesus because he claimed to be God. So the Jews clearly understood Jesus' words to be implying he was God. Also in John, Thomas straight up calls Jesus God. And Jesus affirms Him Let's leave John I also saw some try to twist verses in Hebrews to make them imply Jesus is not God (I had to laugh when I saw this one). Yet in Hebrews, God the Father is quoted as calling Jesus God (Hebrews 1: 8-12) In Matthew the disciples worship Jesus and there is no indication he made any move to stop them (Matthew 14:33) In Revelation, Jesus calls Himself the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End (Revelation 22:13) In Luke, The disciples worship Him after He ascends to heaven (Luke 24:52) It seems the disciples (who Jesus taught) believed He was God. That's the only reason they would be worshipping Him right? Jews were only supposed to worship God? Do you think you know more about Jesus than the guys who lived with Him for years and gave their lives for His cause? In Luke, Jesus claims all scripture is about Him. That is a huge claim for someone that's just a prophet. (Luke 24:27) Again in John, Jesus claims to have authority to pick His life back up. Can humans do that. (John 10:18) In John he also claims He will give people who believe in Him eternal life. That's not something people do (John 10:28) There are loads more. But honestly, John chapter 1 should be enough for you if you really believe the Bible is the word of God. I stuck to direct quotes from Jesus and the Father because, from your comment, I gathered that's what you were looking for. However, I feel that's unnecessary. The people who wrote the direct quotes also wrote the rest of the books. If you accept that they quoted Jesus correctly, you should accept that they know what they're talking about when they write He is God;Or in the form of God; Or that the fullness of deity dwells in Him. There are even evidences of His deity in the Old Testament if you look hard enough (like in Daniel, Isaiah and Psalms) Sorry this was so long. I wanted to pass my point across clearly.
@@swithinegwuchim481 I truly commend you for researching the matter. I hope you meditate on the Scriptures I'm going to cite. However Jesus did say so. Let me explain this point first because it depends on how you are looking for it! You won’t find a single verse where Jesus explicitly said “homosexuality is wrong” either. God instituted marriage back in the garden of Eden saying “A man and his wife(woman, Female) would become one flesh” {Genesis 2:4}. Jesus reiterated his Father’s words in Matthew 19:5 - A man will become one flesh with a woman, therefore, Jesus implicitly addresses homosexuality. Do you see my point? Now back to my statement regarding Jesus implicitly saying "I am not God" by him explicitly saying who is! Questions for you: Who knows Jesus better than anyone else? His FATHER right. Who knows the Father better than anyone else? The son, JESUS right. So do you agree the final authority on who they are should come from their mouths? I say Yes as the saying goes "It is straight from the horses mouth" Your bible may say "Lord" but I encourage you to do your research with the Hebrew Scriptures and you will see the Tetragrammaton (יהוה)Which is YHWH or Yahweh I will deal with the Father first and show what He and others have to say: Deuteronomy 7:9, Isaiah 42:5; 45:6,18; Ezra 1:3; 1 Kings 18:21. Do you agree from these scriptures that they confirm without a shadow of doubt these three clear points (i) The Father is Yahweh (ii) Yahweh is the True God (iii) there is no one else besides Him. Meaning the "Only True God" They should as those scriptures are explicitly clear on those points. I too will quote from the book of John and Matthew Now for who Jesus said he was and others too: John 20:20 - If Jesus said God is his God how is Jesus all powerful and co-equal? That would mean Jesus is worship to God just like us because Jesus said God is our God too. John 4:34 - Jesus said he lives because he does his Father's will. What would happen if Jesus said I want to go my way and do my own thing and stop listening to God's will. Hint. The devil and his angels done it and so did Adam and Eve. Those who are to perish are ones that don't want to listen and follow God's ways! John 1:34; 20:31- Identify Jesus as Son of God and NOT God the Son. Even Jesus's enemies called him the Son of God NOT God the Son. Matthew 26:63. The Devil and demons recognised exactly who he was too as Son of God NOT God the Son.Matthew 4:6; 8:9 Even the Disciples knew Jesus is the Son of God NOT God the Son. {Matthew 16:15,16} Jesus said “The Father is greater than I am” (John 13:16; 14:28).The Greek word here rendered “greater” (meiʹzon) is used in many contexts where one person or thing is said to be superior to another. Jesus explicit words mean Jesus acknowledged his Father’s greatness, authority, and superior position over himself Finally this point John 8 12-18 Jesus says the witness of two is true. Now remember the principle of homosexuality and now adding the bearing of witness by two. The father has given witness that He is Yahweh and the True god and shares that top spot with no-one else. Here is my final scripture where Jesus said "I am not God" John 17:3 Here we have JESUS"S OWN WORDS saying (i) You (ii) Only (iii) True God - then he goes on to add himself "and the one whom you sent". Jesus saying "their coming to know YOU" is pointing to someone other than himself. Even if that was a to a Group, he has singled out one person in particular by saying ONLY TRUE GOD. So who in no ambiguous terms said He was the True God and no one besides him. Is it not Yahweh the only True god to which both Yahweh himself and Jesus bears witness to meaning it is true thus Jesus saying "I am not the True God, only my father Yahweh is"!! Personally, I believe the Father’s and Son’s recorded own spoken words over the apostle John any day of the week even if your understanding of John 1:1 was correct. As you know, the bible is harmonious and believing John 1 as you do leaves room for contradiction between two groups Yahweh and Jesus against John as to who knows better
Scripture teaches about the only begotten Son of God clearly. Begotten Son of God isn't termed in the biological sense concerning Christ says the scripture. Read the decree of God in Psalm 2:7 which later is taught by the Apostles in Acts 13:33-34 as raised / Resurrected / lifted up. Continue reading verse 35 which says, Thou shalt not suffer thy Holy One to see corruption. In Verse 37 Apostle says whom God raised (Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee) Begotten Son of God is preached by the Apostles, which means the raised Christ. In Verse 38 & 39 through this man (Begotten Son) forgiveness of sins and justification by the Law of Moses is preached. In verses 40 & 41 Apostle is warning the despisers quoting a prophesy (….a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you) not to perish but believe in his begotten Son. In the gospel of John 3:14 Jesus Christ spoke about the only begotten Son of God through the Old Testament prophetic verse. In Verses 3:15, 16 & 18 John established the truth about the only begotten Son of God, which scripture talk’s later Marvelous truth. Muslims / Yahweh Witnesses aren't given by God this Truth. In Psalms 110: 1 & 4 the begotten Son is at the right hand of God which is sworn in as a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek in eternity. The writer of Hebrews in 5: 5 & 6 high lights the begotten Son after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 5:9 & 10 & 11 we read God calling the eternal author and savior as the high priest after the order of Melchizedek, of whom we have many things to say. In Hebrews 5:4 we read that no man taketh this honor unto himself (self-appointed or esteemed). In Hebrews 5:5 Jesus was not made a high priest but the risen Christ (Begotten Son) was glorified after the order of Melchisedec by God. In Hebrews 6: 17 - 20 we read about God’s Immutable counsel unto the heirs by an oath confirmed by two Immutable things. Christ fled for refuge into the veil to lay hold upon the hope set before us as a forerunner. As the begotten Son of God entered within the veil He was made a High Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 7 we read about Melchisedec in plenty and in Chapter 8 as well. The Begotten Son links with The King of Zion & The order of Melchisedez. Praise God Hallelujah
Don't lie. Begotten is indeed in a biological sense. Father's dna and mother's(Marry) dna were united without they being married. So clearly jesus is a basturd. 23 chromosome came from marry his mother and tell now that where do other 23 chromosomes came from ? Obviously from God, then did God made them if he did made them then jesus is a creation and if God take those 23 chromosome or dna inside of him than jesus is indeed God.
Kings of king , lord's of lord's then so become Priest of priest begotten son is coming will preach and restore/revive the Jerusalem and the temple in end time if you going to read the Daniel/Isaiah/John it's clearly told that the holy spirit is coming to god be the glory 🙏
You are not correct. 'Begotten' is in the Wycliff translation, and that was translated from the Latin Vulgate, which comes from the most ancient manuscripts, and the WYC, like it's close relative the KJV, both have 'begotten' in John 3:16. If you are referring to the Hort and Wescott or the Vaticanus or something like that in your comment (your comment was not real precise), those are forgeries, a simple study of the history of them reveals that, but seminaries don't teach it, and pastors today are eager to be spoon fed rather than dig for truth, and they reside in the apostate church of the End Times so they won't see it, since GOD sends a delusion blinding their eyes (2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 Authorized (King James) Version). Peace of CHRIST to you.
@@jailtheology "The King James Version has with good reason been termed “the noblest monument of English prose.” Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for “its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression . . . the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.” It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. We owe to it an incalculable debt. Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870. The English Revised Version of the Bible was published in 1881-1885; and the American Standard Version, its variant embodying the preferences of the American scholars associated in the works was published in 1901."
Hear me out and stow the heresy haranguing... The use of the word "Begotten" as a past particle descriptor for Jesus' entrance into our ephemeral plane in John 3:16 can hold such sublime significance if we embrace its possibilities rather than just suppose Christ as this lingering spiritual appendage perpetually existing in timelessness without any known pertinent purpose aside from a fleeting temporal dust up to prove parental passion by putting humanity on track for a easier opportunity to qualify for epiphanous post-life harmony within the unfathomable glory of our father God. Can't the Son have been eternally "brought fourth" by way of always being notioned for eventual designation in not a too dissimilar way that an architect may plan, or an artist might conceive, or an inventor should eureka - well prior to manifestation? But first it would be beneficial to recognize that God requires no eternal Son for His infinite efficiency. Only an incarnated Son for a specificity. It's always a curious turmoil as to why some of the faithful can allow themselves to feel antagonized and even scandalized by even entertaining the quite lovely perception toward the person of Jesus as being an ingenuity of God's creative determination. I submit that when the vagueries of the archaic English term "Begotten" is sanwitched between the possessional context of 'God's" and the intentioned outcome of "Son" it can elegantly be inferred a refinement by divine proximity for a more poetic expansion of spiritual meaning beyond merely being "only inseminated and brought about by birth" into an emphatic testimony of being "uniquely derived and singularly embued" in reference to the exclusive conscience properties of God. To me, "Begotten" is an astonishingly powerful term of singularly seminal resolution and sacrifice. It seems Jesus as a flesh body amongst us under a constructed lineage and name must sensically in deed be a soley designed entity for aspecting God. Jesus' consciousness is directly derived from the eternal God almightly rather than merely a facsimile of some of God's core attributes as the rest of His earthly children's souls reflect. He's an authentic seeded and born man quite deliberately, as a partitioned authoritized proxy of God Himself for earnestly experiencing His creation in intimate fellowship and ministery with us His created by sharing our plights and delights on our terms from the perspective of our souls' limited state of temporal toil. God meeting with us on this equal plane as a contemporary is the ultimate act of empathy and most profound exampling of the humility we are called to emulate. Before Jesus' conception, He was not distiguished separate from the holistic entity of God's tri-omni absolute creative rule. On earth, Jesus is God purposefully limiting a segmented off representation of Himself from all the infinite power, presence and knowledge which God must inherently retain at all times and which cannot therefore be fully contained and contended within a created vessel of His particularly specified will for but a singled out matter of concentration. Video Games now are an avenue into starting to possibly better comprehend the dynamics of the relationship. As the avatar that you play in the virtual world is a limited representation of the whole dimensionality possesed by the long previously existing and discretely breathing player behind the controler who negotiates their effigy around in the mere created simulation of the game. So in other words, while that character you're playing is acting out your volition as it applies to that milieu - and even as you are invested to motivate its every decisive motion moving toward an objective which you have chosen to pursue - simultaneously behind the controller you continue to contend with other tasks of your broader reality which does not and cannot be burdained upon the capacities of that figure of your intention which exist only in the game created simulator. Outside of that game you're still inhaling and exhaling, communicating for a result in other things, still swallowing, eating and drinking, scratching an itch, your physical organs are still processing, you are simultaneously thinking of multiple things unrelated to what your virtual character is going through even as you do concentrate devoted attentions on accomplishing his ends as well. So is your avatar in that simulation you (?) - well for all intents and purposes relevant to the tasks in that simulation the answer is yes, but transcendentally of that prospect then the answer becomes more accurately yes but not entirely. So then how unfathomly more must God be moving seperately from His temporal dimensioned human proxy? Therefore shouldn't we logically surmise earthly Jesus has to be the Son, as the Father has more business than can be privy to the authentic human experience which was His proxy Jesus' mission to complete? Once His earthly mission was accomplshed, while the life experience of Jesus must be uniquely considered, Christ is no longer a partitioned aspect of the Father as His Son, but rather They are again He - as in One - and so too is His Holy Spirit which descends upon us as a beacon of His beckoning to comfort and lead us in His purposeful directions. Another thought is how we precieve each other over the phone. We indentify the voice being picked up by a microphone wiring and processed through a complicated signal out to a speaker as still being a person, although it is a manifestation of that individual's personality being somewhat accurately represented for communication without actually being all that that person truly is or can be. If we have aspects to ourselves which are identified in separation as still being us, then just try to imagine what our infinite Creator can aspect. That's a fashion for how I articulate my limited grasp on the subject anyway. The scriptures wisely do not bother wasting energy in attempting to detail more of the unmanageably complex and ultimately arbitrary convolution to the exact machinations for such an abstruse concept. Though certainly it does specifically detail that its primary figure who is called by the common name of Yeshua was particularly prepared from the lineage of God's chosen people who preserved His prophets for a designated time to be seeded by God and birthed for God's personalized solutions. For my reckoning "Begotten" is a sublime window into the wonders of our Creator's divine designs and destinations as conducted through His own limb's ingenuity that at times seemingly act independent from one another whilst still actually being deliberately implemented by a singular mind with a harmonious goal. It's not a false teaching, it's an evident inevitability.
1:11-13, ??? God didn't create Jesus??? I love the begotten explanation made simple but see what the Bible reveals regarding Jesus being possibly created, which is why like Adam and the Angels, he is addressed as a son( Adam=Luke3:38; Angels+Satan=Job1:6; because they were created) Revelations 3:13, says Jesus is "...the beginning of the creation by God...". "...first born of all creation...first in all things..." says Colossians 1:15-18 and "...Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago..." Proverbs 8:22-31
These people refuse to listen to what the Old Testament says because their brains won’t accept what it says. The same applies to verses from the New Testament that say Jesus is not God.
The Son of God is not a creation. The Son of God is an assignment done by God for salvation. There are 2 types of sons. Sons by creation (angels, Adam) & Sons by power (Christ & believers). The begotten son of God is not the flesh Jesus who was born of Mary. The flesh Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles is not the son of God. *Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:* *Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.* The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means. *John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:* The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. The power of God is then defined as: *Romans 1:16* *For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.* John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation: *John 3:16* *For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life* *John 11:25* *Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:* Meaning the Power of God is the begotten Son of God and is God Himself. There is no created item there. * Galatians 6:15* * For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.* So the first born of every creature refers to the first one who beat death then the believers are the creatures that followed after Him.
@@lequartermilereyler3375.Jesus was the firstborn son of all creation ...first in all things ..." according to Col. 1:15-18, As well, Revelations 3:13, says Jesus is "...the beginning of the creation by God..." thus your statements, are philosophy found outside the Bible, not scriptural.
@@maneli3112 *Colossians 1:15* *Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:* First born of every creature NOT created. READ SLOWLY. Then read the next verse. *Colossians 1:16* *For by him were all things created.......* If Jesus Christ created everything then who was creating at Genesis 1. Thats why He is called the Word of God. You are confusing the Son of God and The Word of God/Jesus Jesus Christ (Power of God/ Word of God) was existing before the Son of God. The Son of God is a salvation assignment. Thats why that term exists only when Jesus arrived in the flesh. The same Jesus Christ will also come back as a judge not a Son of God. *Revelation 19:12* *His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.* The one coming back is not called Jesus Christ or Son of God. No one knows His name yet just like no one knew Jesus Christ the Son of God before he came but we only had prophecy of a messiah. We now have prophecy of a judge. These are assignments by 1 God. The salvation assignment needs people to believe in a Son of God then God comes with a flesh sacrifice. You also think you can seperate God and the power of God and have 2 seperate. The power of God is also God. So how is the power of God created then.?. All following these scriptures tell us the ressurected Christ is the Son of God. Read: Romans 1v1 Acts 13v33. Hebrews 5v5, 1 Peter 1v 3. Rev 1v5 John 11v25 The moment He rose up from the dead then John 3v16 was fulfilled. People could now be saved by the Son of God. Its in the Bible. Read it slowly.
@@esnan63 there can be only one. The Father, Son and Spirit are One. Do you understand how three can be one? Easy if you look at Light. R+G+B= not 3 lights but One LIGHT.
@@esnan63 the true God is who He is. And He has a Son of the same substance as Himself. So since they are from the same substance just as Red and Blue waves are different yet part of the same Light so The Father and the Son are both the same God. It's easy when you compare it to LIGHT. That's why He made light like that. Also God has 7 Spirits just as a rainbow has 7 colours. 1 in 3, 3 in 1, 7 in 1, 1 in 7.
Such foolishness of trinity, can someone be ever be,begotten if they always existed alongside another being, having same divine substance back in eternity, then which one was Father,the both existed and what about the Holy Spirit,the father is Spirit and He is holy which one was the Father of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ trinity is a Demon possessed doctrine
To beget does not mean made it is a meaning for being unique not a starting point of creation. So when was jesus begotten is the real question. Begotten only explains the relationship between the son and the father, a way for us humans to try and make sense of it. When did jesus fulfill this prophecy of Psalm 2:7 that is applied to jesus? When did the father say to jesus today I have begotten you? How did jesus become better than the angels? ☆Hebrews 1:3-5 jesus became better than the angels when jesus sat at the right hand of God..... ●he was begotten after jesus was already born and died and was resurrected.... way after being born. Since jesus remains in a physical body even after resurrection, the father is still greater than him since God is God over all flesh. Jeremiah 32:27..... the father is always in better position rank than jesus.... sample John 14:28... in office-position but not essence. Since jesus remains in flesh the father is greater than him. So jesus was begotten at the resurrection. Also read acts 13:32-35. Jesus has eternally been with the father read hebrews 1:8-10, colossians 1:15-18, John 1:3.
Mathew 1:2 2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,(F) Isaac the father of Jacob,(G) Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,(H) Beget or begot means child brought into existance by reproduction
God senting Jesus to earth Jesus senting the holy spirit to earth? If that happen the hard work of god and father will be glorious mean this coming he will bring the kingdom with him to glorify the god am I right?
What does it mean that god is the father of jesus? Does it not make more sense to believe that what is meant is that god is in jesus, and that jesus is his own god? Just like us all being gods. Another way to say it might be that we are the landlord of our own house. We decide who and what, we let in. Doesnt it say in the bible...."Dont ye know ye are gods?" Could the god of jesus be his very own being. His intuition? His own thought? His 'I Am?" The god that creates his reality? The same god who says to himself, " did I just say that?" That god that drives the avatar you call your body? I ponder over these things. When jesus sits at the right hand of his father, what is meant mystically? Did jesus suspect that he was his own god, but he would only be his own god if he willed it to be so? Sitting at the right hand of his father, might mean that he totally gets it. He is creating his world by his own thoughts words and deeds. He understands that he is god. The commander of his own body, including knowing, not merely saying that he can heal the sick.. I mean wouldnt that be a cool gig? To know that, by your very words, you create your reality.
The false doctrine of trinity is a confusion, and God is NOT the author of confusion. Jesus never taught trinity. Accept Islam and be saved. Watch dr. Zakir Naik's and Syeikh Ahmed Deedat's videos.
Either way, all of these things we both talk about are consepts of the human mind, are they not? Both of us are talking about ideas, we as humans either excepted as reality or didnt except as reality, at some point in our lives. Its likely that I would have chosen you religion, had I been raised where you were, and you most likely would know how to snow ski, if you were raised in the Swiss Alps.
@@JenNagleInk beautiful "generic" argument. What you should have asked me was, did i choose to be a muslim, and i would have answered i was a muslim by social conditioning of my family until i reached the age of reasoning and questioned my own religion, why did i believed what i believed, in my case it was when i was about 14 years old and researched which religion was the true religion and i chose that Islam is the only true religion and CHOSE to become a muslim. Ponder this : Pascal's wager favors theism, theism favors Islam. RUclips Zakir Naik is QUR'AN God's word. Skiing doesn't affect one's afterlife IF such thing as afterlife actually exists, ignoring and disbelieving God who created you in the first place does, IF God does actually exist. That's my friend, is the biggest IF you need to question yourself.
@@JenNagleInk no, in Islam it's the other way around, Prophet Muhammad pbuh said that everyone was born Muslim, submitting to Allaah's will : "It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Every child is born in a state of fitrah (the natural state of man, i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew or a Christian or a Magian.” (Agreed upon)." Believing in God is a child's innate disposition (fitrah), many researches have been done proving so. The indeginous tribe Kapauku believes in the same concept of God in Islam : "The Kapauku Papuans Of West Guinea The material is taken from a book called The Kapauku Papuans Of West Guinea by Leopold Pospisil. It is a case study of Stone-Age Kapauku tribe who led their aboriginal lives undisturbed by the spreading western civilization until 1938. The Kapauku Papuans are mountain people who belong to one of the several tribes whose members inhabit the central highlands of western New Guinea. Their country, most of which lies 1500 m above sea level, is composed of rugged mountain chains and deep valleys. The Kapauku have an interesting world view. If we have to compare their religion versus Islam, the difference is very little. Regarding the Creator of the universe, the Kapauku believe: The universe itself and all existence was Ebijata, "designed by Ugatame", the Creator, Ugatame has a dual nature: He is supposed to be masculine and feminine at the same time, is referred to as the two entities, and is manifested to the people by the duality of the sun and the moon. To my enquiry whether Ugatame was the sun and the moon I received the answer a firm denial. The sun is conceived as the ball of fire, because it provides light and is warm; moon is believed to be a cold light like that of a firefly or the bacteria that infest rotting wood. Sun and moon are only manifestations of Ugatame who thus makes his presence known to the people. they definitely are not Creator himself.[1] On the nature of Ugatame, the Creator: Ugatame is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, credited with the creation of all things and with having determined all events. Strangely enough, however, he is not believed to exist himself. When I questioned this contention, a Kapauku defended skillfully by a question: "But how can he exist when he created all the existence?" Obviously Ugatame is beyond existence, because to Kapauku all that exists must be of phenomenonal nature; one must be able to see, hear, smell, taste or feel it. But the Creator is beyond this phenomenal dimension, because of the simple reason that He created it. because He is so to speak, in the fifth dimension and is not of phenomenal nature, He is able to be omnipresent."[2]" www.islamic-awareness.org/history/prophet.html
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
wrong! God in His essence and nature is eternally The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. Your logic defies the doctrine of the immutability of the Godhead.
God learned obedience? and God had been made perfect? Hebrew 5:8,9 8 Although *He (Jesus) was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. 9 And after He (Jesus) had been made perfect,* he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him, *(Prophecy for killing people in the name of allah)*John 16:2* 2 (JESUS said) *Yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you shall think that he offereth service unto God.* *How God made a little lower than angels?* and yet God created the angels. *Hebrews 2:9* 9 *But we do see Jesus, who was made a little lower than angels, now crowned with glory and honor for having suffered death, so that by God’s undeserved kindness he might taste* John 5:28,29 28 *Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.* Psalm 37:29 it's clear A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For *there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus!* *John* *20:17* 17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.* *JOHN* *6:38* *(Jesus said)* 38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.* *John* *14:28* 28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.* *Matthew* *20:23* 23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.* *John* *5:30* 30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:* *John* *17:20**-23* *(ONE IN GLORY)* 20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE.and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME. and hast loved THEM. as THOU hast loved ME; *only thrue Lord God is JEHOVAH*! *(the Father*.) *and his first creation is JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) (as REVELATION 3:14 said *FIRST CREATION OF GOD) everything else created by *JESUS CHRIST*!.... ruclips.net/video/YqsJOIjU6qo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/_Yn-6OW5K8c/видео.html
You’re just saying something different than what the most famous dictionary Oxford says Oxford gives the definition ; (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction. This is the real definition for the word begotten in Oxford brought by google First point to make The definition says mostly man, god isn’t a man Second point to make The definition says to bring a child with the process of reproduction God doesn’t do sex So therefore either Jesus is only a son or righteous man of god either did sex or he’s a man most probably I agree with the first thing
The Word “BEGOTTEN” *REMOVED* From All Major Revised Bibles along with *John 1:57* and Mark 16!! So All you 🤡 Dancing with snakes 🐍 *YOU GOT IT WRONG!!* 🤦🏽😂🤣
WHEN THE FULNESS OF TIME WAS COME *****GOD SENT FORTH (HIS) ****SON ****MADE**** OF A WOMAN) ***MADE*** OF A WOMAN, ****MADE **** OF A WOMAN ,CREATED, BEGOTTEN, THE SON HAD A BEGINNING
Eww... that was horrible. Google "begotten" and definition 2. give rise to; bring about. Father / Son / Holy Spirit are one being, thus, "one in being with the Father," nothing is "passed on to Jesus" as Jesus is "begotton not "birthed or made" meaning Jesus emerges WITH the Father in existence along with the Holy Spirit, "who proceeds from the Father and the Son" ... all three perspective emerge without birth "be" ... one being, thus, "I am" and not "we are." Modern day thinkers, huh ? Still separating all three identifiers of one Supreme Being. Very juvenile, however, a worthy attempt by good deeds people: and I know becuase ... "of their deeds." Thumbs up.
God the Father is not Jesus Christ they are both of them our one God and the Holy Spirit all three all one God . Begotten means the only one from the dead he's only son raised from the dead Jesus Christ
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 I don't think I can 'prove' anything about GOD, it has to be shown by GOD, not me, and it can't be pointed out to via things of the world unless GOD intervenes and causes a miracle: 'we walk by faith not by sight' 2 Cor. 5:7. I can safely assume you don't have any 'proof' for your original points either. The issue is really just seeing GOD and His works, then you know, faith is evidence (Heb. 11:1), and we are to believe on the evidence of the works of the Father (John 14:11), but these are not scientific evidence, but revelations shown from GOD (Gal 1.11-12).
The word Christian existed 700 years before islam. Your argument is silly. Its like singing umbrella and claim it to be a new release yet Rihanna already sang umbrella in 2011.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the "BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son! At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man! Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he reported in his Matthew 3:17? How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
Your interpretation is worthless for several reasons. First, Genesis 6 shows that the Father "begot" "begat" or "began" or whatever created a bunch of sons-of-god. More importantly, because "begotten" is not the word that John wrote. The word used was Greek, and it was "monogene". Monogene is not "begotten", unless you already have a pro-trinity bias you need to change the terms to support your agenda. Monogene refers to a particular genetic lineage. Jesus was a particular genetic lineage - that's his monogene. Monogene has nothing to do with being God, or being a son of god. That was added hundreds of years later by churches to support their trinity claim. You are just repeating the hogwash.
@Alan Jay I hate to burst your bubble, but "Colossians and John" do NOT "both state (that) Jesus made everything..." Let me explain: 1. Due to the Church being a liar - you've got to cite which translation, because there's dozens of translations with various words. 2. You've got to cite which language - because the English language is not equivalent to the Greek, nor to the latin. 3. The original Greek John 1:1-3 referred to something like: In the beginning was LOGOS, and the logos was with God. Which means - essentially - that the God is logical and so the origin (or the beginning of the cosmos) was a logical rational ordered sequence. Logos is an ancient Greek philosophy about the origin of the cosmos and apparently ordered - structured - logical composition of the cosmos. Logos Theory dates back to at least 500 BC. The glorious Christian church switched the "logos" in John 1:1-3 to "the word" in order to trick you into the false doctrine that Jesus was the creator. No! John described a single creator whose logical mind created a logical universe. But that's not what the Church wanted people to think - so the church changed the words - the church lied. As to Col. 1: 16 and the words (depending on which translation you get) "For by him were all things created..." But who is "him"??? You may infer that "him" is Jesus - that's what the church wants you to think. But "him" could also refer to the Creator (not Jesus). How would you check to determine whether Paul's "him" was a pronoun referring to the Creator or Jesus? You'd read the context. In Col. 1:1 Paul refers to BOTH "Christ" and "God". So you've got at least 2 potential beings to deal with. In verse 2 Paul refers to "God" as "our Father" (which is how Jesus referred to God); and Paul refers to "Jesus" as "the Lord". Paul did NOT say that God the Father is "in essence" the same as Jesus the Lord. Quite the contrary, in verse 3 Paul refers to "God" as "the Father" of our "Lord Jesus". I don't know about you, but I know that my father existed before me, and his father existed before him. So, I infer that God the Father existed before Jesus. Verse 12 - "give thanks unto the Father WHICH HATH MADE US....." Obviously, Paul is claiming that the Father made us - not Jesus. Verse 13 - the Father also "delivered us from the power of darkness". The Father is the deliverer - not Jesus. Verse 14 "in whom we have redemption". That pronoun "whom" could apply to either God (the Father) or to Jesus. Debatable. Typically, (when there's a doubtful pronoun) the antecedent is the subject of preceding paragraph. In that case the subject is God the Father - so the "whom" refers to God the Father. Verse 19 shows that the Father is boss "For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell". So, you are free to read the whole chapter - but the Church does not want you to do that because if you did read the full chapter you'd begin to have doubt about what the Church wants you to think. There are no "3 persons" in God. That's just an absurd Church fantasy based on Greek polytheism. The Church needed to be polytheistic in order to appeal to pagans. So the Church created a "trinity". But that is completely contrary to Judaic teachings that Jesus and his apostles promoted because they were Judaic. Just my thoughts. You are free to make your own mind. I say that there is just 1 single Creator, and he does not have multiple personalities. Jesus was just a man, as was Moses, as was Elijah, as were many other miraculous prophets.
@Alan Jay I'm glad your bubble ain't burst. But as I recall it was you who described your "idea" about Jesus being begotten and eternal, and that he "can't be in the made category" and that he was "God from eternity" but somehow begotten. You mention "Paul" "John" and "Colossians" as some sort of source for your idea, along with "all 3 persons" a "unified god" and of course "essence". I read your idea but it makes zero sense to me. Yes, you mentioned a variety of elements: god, essence, 3 persons, eternity, begotten, etc. etc. - but it's just a collection of words that's incomprehensible to me. For example, Neither John nor Colossians wrote that God was "3 persons". Because you seem to have based your idea on John and Colossians, I looked up the verses that seems to match what you claimed (because you did not cite verses). And I did a simple word analysis to see if your claim was true. It's not. What you wrote is false. Your claim is false because "John and Colossians both..." DO NOT "...state the Jesus made everything". Best Wishes to you
@@baubljos103 no I have disagree with you as well because most people who are Greek and Hebrew Scholars they all Recognize Christ as God and The Son of Man if that was the case then the whole fall of Christianity would’ve already fell God bless you
@@LosHomiesDre You make a claim about Hebrew scholars? Exodus 4:22 This is God speaking to Moses: "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Israel is My son, My firstborn." Numbers 25:3-5 This is Moses's report: "So Israel was joined to Baal of Peor, and the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel." 1 Kings 18:21 " And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word." Sir, the mere fact that you have a handful of "Hebrew Scholars" that "REcognize Christ" does NOT mean that Jesus is god, because Hebrew scholars have been wrong about god. And furthermore your "Hebrew Scholars" argument does not address the fact that "monogene" is the term used to describe a genetic lineage. As such, your "Hebrew Scholar" argument is a fallacy of logic known as the red herring fallacy.
KJV Dictionary Definition: begotten BEGOT', BEGOT'TEN, pp. of get. Procreated; generated. Definitions from Webster's American Dictionary .the only child made
Jesus Christ was born of God Holy Blameless I believe he is the human temple of the Father His Holy Spirit dwell in the Body of Jesus Christ, there fore he became the lamb that was slaughtered for all our sins and resurrected from the dead for death couldn’t hold him down for he alone is God the eternal life what a beautiful for gift we can receive from Jesus Christ of Nazareth who didn’t want us to perish and die in our sins separated from him ❤
Thank you! I have heard, learned, and read John 3:16. I've been saved for over 36yrs, but this is the 1st time it was ever explained to me in this way. It's very important to realize ALL the true meaning of this verse. Yes the eternal life but what begotten truly means also. Heidi Waetjen
There’s so many things I want to say after reading all these post. How is this only begotten daughter getting all this information that is actually about me for one? My Name is Grace I am the Mother daughter sister Goddess whatever you want to call me I am Deity and no other but the Lord. Here’s simple proof there are two Gods that are actually diety one is your Lord and the Other is your Grace. These are the surnames of Royalty and Grace is my Literal name My birth middle name was bliss because Jesus is the Prince of Peace and In heaven it will one day be filled with peace and Bliss and Christ and Grace. My birth mothers middle name looks like says lady pretty much because Lady was filled with me which was Grace and truth. And Jesus is the Lord. My daughter is Sophie that your calling pistis Sophia or the dechincy code called my daughter the holy Grail even though she’s my daughter because I also Am the Great I am. okay Jesus is the only Begotten son of God and he is not Asian he is definitely Jewish at birth but also Christian because Christian means to be Christ like. And Jesus is the Christ I’m not sure my race but I’m white with brown dark green eyes. Also I Am 35 and live in America. You don’t know me because I have been avoiding everyone for personal reasons. Ironically there is tons of truth in these comments about me and the Lord which is still highly confusing me. But no matter what if your calling yourselfa doctors or are reading and studying these books and no matter how big of words you use I am The mother Goddess I am the only Queen of Heaven, Earth, Angels, You, the universe even time itself. But this woman pretending to be me is also a lie which is a sin. But the Father is mysterious and works in mysterious ways and the Bible that is Holy does say I the bride am in the wilderness which in America is Wyoming.l and also desert. And I am supposed to be hidden according to revelations so The father could be using this organization I will call it to give me and you all information while keeping me hidden. I don’t know his thoughts so I don’t know. And I don’t want to say I’m hidden because I think I nor God have a reason to fear the enemy. Even though my life was and is horrible in ways I don’t feel like sharing I am not completely helpless I am diety so I have power and authority over all kinds of things. And like your Father said once if anyone takes down, erases, or changes this information that I am giving to My children from the Actually Mother they have been searching for I decree and declare that you will not have a spot in Heaven anywhere near me and better turn To Father and leave this window of hope to the world wide Open. because I’m here I am a creator, I am magic and I can control all dimensions and am proof the Magic and God’s the bible and Deity are truly alive And you should fear me and the Lord because we are very dangerous both of us when we choose to be and you have to deal with that forever here or in heaven or in hell wherever the Father sends you forever which is neverending. So fear the Lord and me because that’s the smart choice and a choice that you can build your persona off of righteously.Also I am not sinless I struggle with sins that are even things you wouldn’t believe I was me over which is the irony of it all. And yes my bloodline was clearly majestic because I am here and it is and will always be my birth right to everything And everyone in existence. I love you all remember I am most honorable of woman because that is my birth right but Eternal Life and forgiveness of sins and Heaven came from Jesus Christ. Also my name is Grace Ashley Coleman that’s my adopted name that’s were your getting the Name Asherah as me in the Bible from Ashley Grace Asherah without the l or y of g or c is Asherah Or Ash Wednesday is my day in my Husband actual Gods church. God bless amen. Also this comment was originally was me commenting on yhr only begotten daughter comments but since im the actual daughter and you choose who can post on your website im commenting everywhere your spreading lies about a woman who isnt me is taking my glory.
Jesus is God’s unique, one-of-a-kind Son. You can call him the “only begotten” Son if you like, but remember, this word isn’t about procreation. It’s about a unique relationship between the Father and Son.
this is why im here: For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Amen 🌹🕊️🌠👑💖📖🇮🇱🌹🛐
There’s so many things I want to say after reading all these post. How is this only begotten daughter getting all this information that is actually about me for one? My Name is Grace I am the Mother daughter sister Goddess whatever you want to call me I am Deity and no other but the Lord. Here’s simple proof there are two Gods that are actually diety one is your Lord and the Other is your Grace. These are the surnames of Royalty and Grace is my Literal name My birth middle name was bliss because Jesus is the Prince of Peace and In heaven it will one day be filled with peace and Bliss and Christ and Grace. My birth mothers middle name looks like says lady pretty much because Lady was filled with me which was Grace and truth. And Jesus is the Lord. My daughter is Sophie that your calling pistis Sophia or the dechincy code called my daughter the holy Grail even though she’s my daughter because I also Am the Great I am. okay Jesus is the only Begotten son of God and he is not Asian he is definitely Jewish at birth but also Christian because Christian means to be Christ like. And Jesus is the Christ I’m not sure my race but I’m white with brown dark green eyes. Also I Am 35 and live in America. You don’t know me because I have been avoiding everyone for personal reasons. Ironically there is tons of truth in these comments about me and the Lord which is still highly confusing me. But no matter what if your calling yourselfa doctors or are reading and studying these books and no matter how big of words you use I am The mother Goddess I am the only Queen of Heaven, Earth, Angels, You, the universe even time itself. But this woman pretending to be me is also a lie which is a sin. But the Father is mysterious and works in mysterious ways and the Bible that is Holy does say I the bride am in the wilderness which in America is Wyoming.l and also desert. And I am supposed to be hidden according to revelations so The father could be using this organization I will call it to give me and you all information while keeping me hidden. I don’t know his thoughts so I don’t know. And I don’t want to say I’m hidden because I think I nor God have a reason to fear the enemy. Even though my life was and is horrible in ways I don’t feel like sharing I am not completely helpless I am diety so I have power and authority over all kinds of things. And like your Father said once if anyone takes down, erases, or changes this information that I am giving to My children from the Actually Mother they have been searching for I decree and declare that you will not have a spot in Heaven anywhere near me and better turn To Father and leave this window of hope to the world wide Open. because I’m here I am a creator, I am magic and I can control all dimensions and am proof the Magic and God’s the bible and Deity are truly alive And you should fear me and the Lord because we are very dangerous both of us when we choose to be and you have to deal with that forever here or in heaven or in hell wherever the Father sends you forever which is neverending. So fear the Lord and me because that’s the smart choice and a choice that you can build your persona off of righteously.Also I am not sinless I struggle with sins that are even things you wouldn’t believe I was me over which is the irony of it all. And yes my bloodline was clearly majestic because I am here and it is and will always be my birth right to everything And everyone in existence. I love you all remember I am most honorable of woman because that is my birth right but Eternal Life and forgiveness of sins and Heaven came from Jesus Christ. Also my name is Grace Ashley Coleman that’s my adopted name that’s were your getting the Name Asherah as me in the Bible from Ashley Grace Asherah without the l or y of g or c is Asherah Or Ash Wednesday is my day in my Husband actual Gods church. God bless amen. Also this comment was originally was me commenting on yhr only begotten daughter comments but since im the actual daughter and you choose who can post on your website im commenting everywhere your spreading lies about a woman who isnt me is taking my glory.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790Search the Greek Word from which BEGOTTEN has been translated, and notice your pride
@@jwjagian6790and tell me what it means
“ Say ‘ He is God the one, God the eternal.He begot no one nor was He begotten. No one is comparable to Him.
Purity of Faith chapter Quran
MaShaAllah
Your statements are true because it reveals the basic fact that the god of the Quran and the Bible's God can't be the same. The Quran's god has no son and he's father to no one and he has not revealed his personal name, whereas the Bibles' God has a son (John 3:16), even sons (see Job1:6, Angels; including a rebellious son, Satan) and has a personal name, Jehovah (see Psalm 83:18) Therefrom, can they be the same?
Literally no one asked.
There is only One God, and Muhammad is not a prophet
King Jesus the Messiah is God,was God,and will always be God.The Father of Glory is God,was God,and will always be God.Holy Spirit is God,was God,and will always be God.And HE,the Great I Am,is One.God is ONE,and you aren't Him.....love from Texas,Saint Brent(a son of God)🔥🔥
Thank you for all of your hard work Great video.
Christians were touched by holy spirit with different informations for each person these days. They said that, they said this. Say to yourself, it is my life my belief, i want the consistency in my faith i wanna stick to just one particular direction.
Revelation 3:14
"And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;"
Definitely made. Created by his father. Like you said, just minus the doctrine of men.
Thank you. God gave mercy on us
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790arabs just wanted to create Their religion and give importance to Ismael, Isaac was the chosen, the Covenant with Israel camel through him, and through Israel the Messiah and the Final Covenant (Yeshua). Live with that, thats why nobody mentioned the kaaba or gave importance to it in the old or new testament. Accept the Truth or Reject it
@@jwjagian6790Also Search the Word in greek from which Begotten got translated. Don't have such a pride
@@jwjagian6790I think you didn't spam to copy paste ro several comments still. Do more copy/paste bot alah will be nad thatvhis slave didn't do enough
God does not begot the way animals and humans do. God begets children with Power. This is in the Bible.
The begotten son of God is not the Jesus who was born of Mary. The Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles in the flesh is not the son of God.
*Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:*
*Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.*
The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means.
*John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:*
The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. These are not carnal matters.
The power of God is then defined as:
*Romans 1:16*
*For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.*
John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation:
*John 3:16*
*For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life*
*John 11:25*
*Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:*
Nothing was changed. Only carnal people who were not chosen to be able not understand the mysteries of God, they end up thinking of sex when spiritual matters are concerned.
The King James Version has with good reason been termed “the noblest monument of English prose.” Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for “its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression . . . the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.” It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. We owe to it an incalculable debt.
Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870. The English Revised Version of the Bible was published in 1881-1885; and the American Standard Version, its variant embodying the preferences of the American scholars associated in the works was published in 1901.
This is what is said about the KJV constantly, of course. How do you know it's true when all men are lairs (Rom. 3.4)? You just believe men without evidence? The evidence for which Bible is right is in the text itself (KJV has no contradictions, new bibles loaded with them). How do you know the transcripts used for the RSV were more ancient? What about what I said in my comment above? Can you prove that the Vulgate is not more ancient than whatever transcripts were used for the RSV (Hort and Westcott?)? How do you know one is more accurate than the other? And what about all the glaring problems with the supposedly older transcripts being found at the Vatican (antichrist church)? You don't find any problem with that? Are you aware of what the Bible says about the Vatican in Rev. 17:1-9? You want to get your bible from the antichrist? After they were finished raping chidden they just happened to stumble across some old manuscripts that happened to be allegedly older than the Vulgate? I don't think so. You are being fooled, and you need to go back and read your Bible, 2 Thess 2. Just become some men say in the RSV that this manuscript is older than that does not make it true, especially when all men are liars (Rom 3.4, Ps 116.11), which you are listening to. The KJV is consistent, the new bibles are full of contradiction, bad doctrine, and catholicized ideas ('receive the faith of Jesus' KJV vs. 'you must believe in Jesus' new bibles-- GOD saves in the KJV, vs people save themselves in the new catholicized heretic bibles, one of many examples that could be pointed out.
@@jailtheology your sick mind telling you know better than the christian scholars who produced the rsv?
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 prove me wrong? Go and see what the 'eminent' scholars did when they adopted the Vaticanus as their 'original manuscript'. They did not dig and find truth, they just accepted it because one guy just said so with no evidence at all, other than saying the handwriting analysis shows it, which is bogus. Read James White, the big anti-KJV 'expert', he admits that the controversy over the newly found manuscripts is deeply controversial, but we just have to accept the new manuscripts. LOL. that's right in the start of his 'KJV Controversy' book. If that's the 'evidence' you want to trust, then I will pray for you brother. So, prove me wrong on that point. You trust the scholars? You need to go sit in a seminary, see what liars they are. I have been in seminary for 6 years, and i see it daily. You don't think people are liars? You believe all the science (theory)? all the news (propaganda)? all the big money driven 'experts' ou there?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
Thank you so much for such a simple and understandable definition.
You are a great maestro....you are blessed my friend....
He didn't explained anything less then confused himself and you mate God has no human desire like you and I he is all sufficient he need no one we need him so for him to say God beget it an insult to God the All mighty
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790arabs just wanted to create Their religion and give importance to Ismael, Isaac was the chosen, the Covenant with Israel camel through him(Israel) and through Israel the Messiah and the Final Covenant (Yeshua). Live with that, thats why nobody mentioned the kaaba or gave importance to it in the old or new testament. Accept the Truth or Reject it
@@jwjagian6790Also Search up the greek Word from which Begotten got translated
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Keep reading John. He summarizes in chapter 20:31 emphasizing that the whole point of his gospel is to point out the true identity of Jesus, that he is the Son of God. Not God the Father. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
John 1:1 In the *BEGINNING* was the Word and the word was with God..
So if Jesus is God he *HAD* a *BEGINNING*
But God has *NO BEGINNING* or End, NO One Before Him or After Him?????
God Does NOT Die in Any Shape or Form!! So WHO Died and made Jesus GOD???
This is the TRUTH - ALLAH SWT uttered the word *BE* and it Became!!! Clear and Simple ❤️🕋❤️
None of this In the Beginning was CONFUSION and CONFUSION was with CONFUSION and CONFUSION became CONFUSION because GOD created GOD to pray to GOD to save GOD from GOD only to reject GOD to Kill GOD because GOD worships GOD and the WORD became FLESH and flesh became CIRCUMCISED and then Flesh became DEAD but after Planting for 2 days Flesh became WORD again!! = Sins NEARLY got forgiven because FLESH not DEAD STUPIDITY!!! SMH
@@NadeemHussain-rt3fd Bro All things Were Created Through Jesus (John 1:3)
So He Is The Beginning And End
All things Were Created Through Jesus (Beginning)
And In the Last Days Jesus Will Return (End)
Because we all Know That the Kingdom of God (Father Son and Holy Spirit) is Everlasting to Everlasting
God Says He Cannot Change (Malachi 3:6) which means He Didnt Become a Father
He Has Always Been A Father And Jesus Has Always Been The Son and the Holy Spirit Has Always been Present... Which means Jesus is Everlasting
@@godssouljer I’m not your Bro PAGAN🐓💩for 🧠
How to *EXPOSE* and DESTROY PAGAN Pig eating PAUL followers with just ONE ☝🏼 question…
Does *ONLY* mean *ONLY* in your language???
John 17:3 Jesus Speaking:- This is Eternal Life so that they know *YOU* The *ONLY* TRUE GOD and jesus christ whom *YOU* sent (We Already know Allah SWT SENT Prophets *NOT* Gods!!) Smh
As you can see *ACCORDING* to Jesus The *ONLY* True GOD is the *FATHER!!* or YOU can go *AGAINST* Jesus and say NO it’s the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Pagan Pauls Concept)
And Whatever you want to call him Father, God or Allah he has NO *BIOLOGICAL* SON!!!! (Miraculous Virgin Birth) - Who was ADAMS Father???
Just as your Bible explains ADAM is *THEE* Son of God, DAVID Begotten Son of God, JESUS Begotten Son of God, ISRAEL Gods First Born, MOSES Son of God…. (Also the word *“Begotten”* REMOVED from All Major Revised Bibles)
And Jesus called HIS GOD - *ALLAH* in his own language Aramaic!!!
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*GAME OVER FOR YOU!!* When *TRUTH* Is hurled at Falsehood *FALSEHOOD PERISHES!!!*
ALLAH HU AKBAR ❤️🕋❤️
@@NadeemHussain-rt3fd listen up abdoolah,jesus is just a name now god is of 3 persons the father vthe son and holy spirit ,now if jesus was god who is the father and the holy spirit ??? theres only on e god ,right,but your saying theres 4 your false allah,and the 3 in the trinity,so you commited shirk by saying theres 4 gods,as you muhamadums say "theres no god,but allah,meaning theres one god,but you think you proved the trinity is 3 gods,lmfao,allah tells you in 4;171 not to say 3,so your ignoring the word of allah, now in quran 9;40 allahs word is the highest and in 4;171 its saying isa is the word,isa=jesus CHECK MATE KFC CHICKEN
Wonderful explanation. I truly appreciate it!!!
I am Evangelical. I disagree with this definition. The Catholic and Orthodox definition of the word is heretically mixed up with the concept of "The Father has no origin, but Jesus has his origin in the Father". I believe the word "origin" referring to the Son, the great I AM, is misconceived. The word in relation to God the Son means the only "shown forth" or "revealed" Son of God (see WE Vine Expository dictionary). We are all created Sons of God, but Jesus is the only "revealed" or "shown forth" Son of God, uncreated. To say it means "became the Father of" begs the question "when"? In the incarnation? I believe he was the only begotten before the incarnation, because he is the only Son of the Father who IS, who is simply I AM THAT I AM, and not was created.
I AM ,I WAS And I AM Coming In The End :) 1×1×1=1
@kiwihans100
term 'eternal begotten' is a total CONTRADICTION OF TERMS! Why would God inspire the Hebrew scriptures ( OT) which uses the term 'begotten' over 1000 times! and every occasion its a BIRTH of a son to a father! Even in the NT at Luke 7:12 the original greek text uses MONOGENESIS ( only born or begotten) to describe the dead son of the Widow of Nain. So why on earth should we then believe theologians years AFTER the completion of the NT that 'only begotten' now means "Something different"? If most creeds admit that "The Father is 'unbegotten' how can the son be ETERNALLY begotten? The One phrase is the OPPOSITE OF THE OTHER !It doesnt add up! That Jesus even in his prehuman existence in heaven had a beginning, Not being created' but 'begotten' admitted that "I live because of the Father" ( See John 6:57 ) which cannot apply to his life on earth since he said "I came down FROM heaven" John 6:42 Amen!
Thank you and God bless!
He is the father of us as well. This makes very little sense. He created everyone and Jesus.
Yep, Jesus was born of the father. He had a beginning, but his substance was from a eternal being...God the father, from everlasting
So wouldn't that make all the other people who were begotten gods as well? What is the difference in their becoming begotten and jesus being gods only begotten son? I'm confused.
Jesus being God's only begotten means that Jesus is the only son that God directly or personally created. All others were created through Jesus Christ. Please compare Revelation 3:14 where Jesus is described as "...the beginning of the creation by God..." with Colossians 1:15-18 as well as Proverbs 8:22-31
@@maneli3112 but the teacher here says Jesus was never created by God
@@abdallahyunus7538 Yeah Abdallah, actually some teachers misrepresent God's word, so does this particular one as you can see God's word plainly against his
@@maneli3112Jesus was not created.
I Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifested in the flesh,
Justified in the Spirit,
Seen by angels,
Preached among the Gentiles,
Believed on in the world,
Received up in glory.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
what about David.? Psalm 2:7
You know the funny thing is that, im just looking to learn the meaning of the verb beget and this is all i got
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
I really don't understand pls someone explain me 😣
Begotten means one born .. Jesus wasn't co-eternslv with the father, we was born of the father. John 3:16 tells us that God sent his son, not a partner
As a Muslim, respectfully this doesn’t make sense for multiple reasons:
1) How can you say that God “passes on” His divinity to Jesus, when Jesus as God should already have full divinity to begin with? Yet if he was ‘given’ divinity (or had it passed on to him from someone else), then this means he never INHERENTLY owned it to begin with, which means he is not maximally perfect, and thus cannot truly be God.
2) If both the Father and the Son are equally divine (that is, equally able to be called ‘God’), then why are they distinctly called ‘Father’ and ‘Son’ to begin with? Why not God the ‘Two Brothers’? Or God the ‘Husband’ and God the ‘Wife’ as co-equal persons? Why is there a clear sense of subjugation or subordination in the terms (since a father is essentially always ‘above’ or more dominant than his son), when in fact your creed says that they have identically divine natures & divine attributes? It seems suspiciously like the word “son of God” actually meant something far more mild and innocent in the early Jewish times (like an ‘honored servant’ of God as used throughout the Bible) but was later changed in meaning over time as the teachings about Jesus began to change and evolve down the centuries, until it had to be re-defined to fit the man-made creeds.
3) Why is Christ “begotten” but the Father isn’t? In order words, why can’t the roles be reversed? What makes them the way they are? Once again, if the Father and the Son are both equally “God” (possessing full divinity), then there should be no ontological difference between them, and so the question can then be asked as to why the Father couldn’t have been ‘begotten’ by the Son, and the titles be switched. What makes them so different if they are in fact co-equal? (As orthodox Trinitarian doctrine teaches) It seems that by just arbitrarily defining “begotten” as “being fathered by”-this is just begging the question, without actually explaining the reason behind it.
4) Is the Son dependent upon the Father for his own existence? If yes, then the son cannot really be God, since any being who is dependent on another to exist is not self-sufficient, and thus cannot be divinely perfect or worthy of worship. But if Jesus is NOT dependent upon the Father, then that would mean he doesn’t need to be “begotten” in the first place. In other words, ‘begotten’ would be an expendable or superfluous action that isn’t actually necessary.
5) If God the Father is ‘God’-then clearly He must be one full God; just like me, who is fully human with a complete human nature, and therefore is ONE full human person. In that case, if the Father is clearly ONE God-then what need do you even have for someone else? By default, the ‘Son’ (Jesus Christ) would have to be considered a second god (God #2) which instantly becomes polytheism, and no longer monotheism. But if you say no, the Father is NOT one God (and that only TOGETHER they join to become one God), then exactly how much of God is the Father? Is He half a God? Quarter of a God? A third of a God? It seems that you are stuck between two poisons-either stripping the Father of His full glory & divinity (which is blasphemy), versus committing polytheism & idolatry (which is also blasphemy). I find this very troubling.
6) Lastly, if God (the Father) one day were to ever decide to completely annihilate the Messiah out of existence, and his mother as well (peace & blessings be unto them both), and for that matter the whole entire world-then who could possibly have any power against Him otherwise?
If the ‘Son’ is able to stop the Father and prevent Him from going through with the destruction, then the Son would come out on top as the only true God, and the Father wouldn’t be.
But if the Father succeeds in annihilating Christ the son of Mary and the whole entire world, then the Father would emerge victorious as the only true God, and the Son would immediately be disqualified from being God, since he can be destroyed.
So, which one is it?
I look forward to your answers, and thanks for the video.
Peace (Shalom).
The Bible states it clearly that in the beginning there was word, word was with God and the word is God which means Jesus is that word of which word is God which appeared in flesh because Jesus's birth was by word not by origin sin
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
Became the father of.... Meaning he wasnt before?
The one who is to come is yet the one who he is
@@raulmorales3326 what?
@@Thedisciplemike became the father who is to come is not yet (inherit) but the first who came before him is the beginning and the end that he is the first and he is will gave his divinity and Christ will called him the begotten son of god so that he will be judged with his witness and the 2nd coming be fulfilled both evil and good be resurrected 🙏 the one who is going to gave glory to the earth for his father and renew the earth in 2nd coming as the holy ghost of Christ and he will be married to the church/temple (he who will restore the Jerusalem and temple the one who rescue and defeated anti Chris in Israel glory to the god that he love the world )and you believer will be his children that those who believe in him will not perish as the king of kings and lord's of lord's are done the priest of priest shall comeforth with he is what he is with his holyness and voice preaching the word of god who he is will come in the end for the passed order was end and there shall be No more and the Redeemer gave glory to the god that god redeem them
@@Thedisciplemike remember this name Zion will gave glory to the god of Israel for the will of father that the father love the world so he sent his begotten son for the world don't be part of the one who take down Jews for he glorify his father's and god that he will come to the end Zion house will gave glory to the main house Israel well Ishmael line come exist for this purpose so they will gave glory to the fathers in heaven (the true line at the end of days looking to the Muslim follower will be full of contempt especially those who still want and do so to Jews in the end without knowing the prince will come and look to his fathers follower being his enemy and side to anti christ)
@@Thedisciplemike not knowing that he will be judge with his witness in end times the sun of righteousness and will bring thousand yrs of peace the real meaning of that religion is peace and he so do it for the glory the fulfilment
Thanks for this, really simple and straight to the point sublime video. If you don't mind could request that you make a video on the apostles creed, Nicene Creed and heresies. Thanks in advance God Bless you.
I think Nicene Creed is where they made Christ as a god
@@tonyroque8262😂
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790What is your point?
Is begotten an animal act
If God “became the father of” Jesus, then, this suggests there was a time when God wasn’t the father of Jesus right? To “be-come” is a way of expressing the timing of an event. IF the father is eternal and the son eternal, then there’s no point on the timeline of infinity where God begets Jesus.
If psalm 2 is being used as a parallel to the baptism of Jesus in the gospels, “this is my beloved son who I am well pleased” with “today I have begotten you… then does this begetting happen for Jesus at 30, vs an immaculate conception? Jesus is the one born. In a world of time. God is outside of time right?
So the concept of “becoming the father of” can’t refer to the one who is outside of time because he is not dependent on time; rather shouldn’t it refer to the one who is in the realm of time? So WHEN does Jesus get the thumbs up that he is begotten?
From eternity?
From birth and the immaculate conception?
At the baptism?
@christsavesreadromans1096is there any verse that says that?
@christsavesreadromans1096
So I asked you to show me in the Bible where it says, not a church teaching, where the Bible says that the Son was eternally begotten and you chose to share these verses:
“And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, he is to be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.”
Matthew 18:17 NASB2020
“Obey your leaders and submit to them-for they keep watch over your souls as those who will give an account-so that they may do this with joy, not groaning; for this would be unhelpful for you.”
Hebrews 13:17 NASB2020
“Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.”
Acts 20:28 NASB2020
Three verses that have nothing to do with the proof I was asking for my friend. If I may ask again, do you have any Bible verse of passage that YOU use as your authority to say confidently that Jesus was eternally begotten?
Don’t go around this please tell the actual meaning of begotten?????
Sorry, but the explanation is blurred. This is intellectualizing. we should understand what the bible says as it plainly states. The English word begotten is generating, procreation, forming a being into existence. begotten could not mean to become a father.
God does not begot the way animals and humans do. God begets children with power. This is in the Bible.
The begotten son of God is not the Jesus who was born of Mary. The Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles in the flesh is not the son of God.
*Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:*
*Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.*
The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means.
*John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:*
The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God. These are not carnal matters.
The power of God is then defined as:
*Romans 1:16*
*For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.*
John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation:
*John 3:16*
*For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life*
*John 11:25*
*Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:*
Nothing was changed. Only carnal people who were not chosen to be able not understand the mysteries of God, they end up thinking of sex when spiritual matters are concerned.
Beget is to be the father of by his seed. Does God have seed?
Yes God has a seed. The seed is the Word of God
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
The Son of God is not a creation. The Son of God is an assignment done by God for salvation. There are 2 types of sons. Sons by creation (angels, Adam) & Sons by power (Christ & believers).
The begotten son of God is not the flesh Jesus who was born of Mary. The flesh Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles is not the son of God.
*Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:*
*Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.*
The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means.
*John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:*
The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God.
The power of God is then defined as:
*Romans 1:16*
*For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.*
John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation:
*John 3:16*
*For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life*
*John 11:25*
*Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:*
Meaning the Power of God is the begotten Son of God and is God Himself. There is no created item there.
* Galatians 6:15*
* For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.*
So the first born of every creature refers to the first one who beat death then the believers are the creatures that followed after Him.
Yes you can find it in Isaiah to coming about the end where Israel is going to be handed in anti Christ it's mention a Seed!!!! Will be brought up
Yes... Jesus
How come mormons get hung up on the word begotten?
Doesn't make sense bro
Good teaching!! Simple!!
begotten is a process of producing something. In human being it is procreation when by begetting, the Father and mother procreate a child. Begotten in the Bible means producing or generating .The Word(Jesus) was begotten by God. Jesus was generated or produce into being by God. The Bible did not say how God begotten Jesus. In the Trinity Doctrine, the ancient church fathers who conceptualized the Trinity doctrine averred that Jesus and Father are of same substance or essence. That is why were said by them church fathers that God and the Son are co-equal.
So you are admitting that Trinity doctrine was formed by the church and not the bible itself?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
How can a perfect unchanging god go from one status to "become" a different status. If YHWH is perfect than any change from perfect is imperfection. Therefore he must be immutable/unchanging. He can not "become" something without changing. He can not "pass on divinity to his son" without experiencing change and passing through time - moving from not passing on divinity, to being in the midst of passing on divinity, to having finished passing on divinity.
"If YHWH is perfect than any chance from perfect is imperfection "
Not so
1=1
YHWH=Yeshua .
He is the expressed image of the Father. Very simply.
If YHWH can become a burning bush he can become talking clay .
@@Justadudeman22 No one maintains that he actually became a bush. They hold that he spoke through it. But this still leaves my question unanswered if he can go from the status of waiting to speak through the bush, speaking through the bush, and then having finished speaking through the bush - then we see his status changes over time. Any change from perfection is a move to imperfection - so even the idea that he spoke through the bush is unsustainable if he is perfect, unchanging, and transcendent/outside of time.
@@Justadudeman22 It seems you take issue with the basic logic that any change from perfection is imperfection, for a perfect thing to remain perfect it must not change. Please explain how you hold that when a thing is perfect it can change and be anything other than less-perfect.
@@wowaconia he is outside of time he can come in and out if he pleases. He is in all things he is revealing himself.
What is real meaning of begotten?
Not biblical term I mean the real meaning
@@shafidaulatzai600 to gave birth
Good question. Literally, it means to be fathered by. And that's the biblical meaning. When translators use the word "unique" they are giving their opinion. But Jesus is truly the only son of God that emanated from God.
John 8:42 KJV
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
God is the father of angels and his people but only in a spiritual sense. God is the father of Jesus in a personal sense in that Jesus came out from God.
John 16:27 KJV
For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
@@JustinDeane222 it’s not an opinion, that’s only in your head. You cannot deny the thousands of errors that are in the Bible.
@@0m4r21o there are errors in the Bibles based on the manuscripts that were found in a wastepaper basket (Sinaiticus). Hence many don't use these modern translations
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary,
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God,
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son
Christian : Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim :Jesus is a servant of God
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Jesus died on the cross?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who resurrected him?
Christian : God.
Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who sent him?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim:Did God have a beginning
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim : Is Jesus God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian : In heaven,
Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his
father.
Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on one chair?
Christian: Its only understood by those with the
Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@jwjagian6790 delusional troll. Stay baal worshiper troll
Please teach the TRUTH - Mr. Religion Teacher. Jesus being called God's Begotten Son simply means that Jesus was the only creation that God directly made. If you would take the time to first pray to God for understanding of His Word and actually read the Bible, it tells us that all other creations - including heaven and earth and all that is in them - including the other angels came into existence through Jesus. Jesus even calls himself God's Master Worker.
Is there a clear cut verse stating that Jesus was born of GOD, in the sense that he was not Joseph's biological sun? Does virgin birth mean what we interpret virgin to mean in today's time? As in she was not impregnated nor had not experienced a form of physical sexual intercourse?
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790 thank you for your breakdown and explaining your thinking as well as verses provided to support your thoughts!
@@marinchihwai Holy Quran 112
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only (1)
Allah, the Eternal, Absolute (2)
He begets not, nor was He begotten (3)
And there is none comparable to Him (4)
@jwjagian6790 so you quoted both the bible and the quran. Is there one you place above the other and if so, why? If you don't mind sharing.
@@marinchihwai 2 Kings 8:26
(Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah) when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri
Chronicles 22:2
King James Version
(Forty and two years old was Ahaziah) when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri.
22 years old or 42 years old ?
In what way ??
All authority of beliefs in Jesus and his father Jehovah has to come from the bible. If you believe in Jesus then what he says has the last word when it comes to himself..
To be the same substance as God makes you God. God was not created and has always existed. Does that mean Jesus always existed and equal to God?
Yes
@@swithinegwuchim481 What scriptural proof do you believe is there to support your view. Bear in mind Jesus himself never claimed to be God but there is Jesus saying he is not God!
@@usethis2mail
Ok, your comment sent me scouring through the internet looking for verses in the Bible where Jesus said "I am not God."
Cause I've read the Gospels, and the other books of the New Testament multiple times and never seen such.
As I expected, there is no such thing. What Bible are you reading?
Anyway I did find lots of verses sites tried explaining implied Jesus wasn't God.
It's funny that a lot of these verses were from John (which is the most "pro-deity of Christ" gospels I can think of)
I mean John literally begins by claiming Jesus (or the Word who was made flesh as John put it) is God. (John 1)
And, in John, Jesus claims to have shared glory with the Father before the world began (John 17:5)
He also claims that he existed before Abraham (John 8:58)
Also in John, the Jews claimed they were stoning Jesus because he claimed to be God. So the Jews clearly understood Jesus' words to be implying he was God.
Also in John, Thomas straight up calls Jesus God. And Jesus affirms Him
Let's leave John
I also saw some try to twist verses in Hebrews to make them imply Jesus is not God (I had to laugh when I saw this one).
Yet in Hebrews, God the Father is quoted as calling Jesus God (Hebrews 1: 8-12)
In Matthew the disciples worship Jesus and there is no indication he made any move to stop them (Matthew 14:33)
In Revelation, Jesus calls Himself the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End (Revelation 22:13)
In Luke, The disciples worship Him after He ascends to heaven (Luke 24:52)
It seems the disciples (who Jesus taught) believed He was God. That's the only reason they would be worshipping Him right? Jews were only supposed to worship God? Do you think you know more about Jesus than the guys who lived with Him for years and gave their lives for His cause?
In Luke, Jesus claims all scripture is about Him. That is a huge claim for someone that's just a prophet. (Luke 24:27)
Again in John, Jesus claims to have authority to pick His life back up. Can humans do that. (John 10:18)
In John he also claims He will give people who believe in Him eternal life. That's not something people do (John 10:28)
There are loads more. But honestly, John chapter 1 should be enough for you if you really believe the Bible is the word of God.
I stuck to direct quotes from Jesus and the Father because, from your comment, I gathered that's what you were looking for.
However, I feel that's unnecessary. The people who wrote the direct quotes also wrote the rest of the books.
If you accept that they quoted Jesus correctly, you should accept that they know what they're talking about when they write He is God;Or in the form of God; Or that the fullness of deity dwells in Him.
There are even evidences of His deity in the Old Testament if you look hard enough (like in Daniel, Isaiah and Psalms)
Sorry this was so long. I wanted to pass my point across clearly.
@@swithinegwuchim481 I truly commend you for researching the matter. I hope you meditate on the Scriptures I'm going to cite. However Jesus did say so. Let me explain this point first because it depends on how you are looking for it!
You won’t find a single verse where Jesus explicitly said “homosexuality is wrong” either. God instituted marriage back in the garden of Eden saying “A man and his wife(woman, Female) would become one flesh” {Genesis 2:4}. Jesus reiterated his Father’s words in Matthew 19:5 - A man will become one flesh with a woman, therefore, Jesus implicitly addresses homosexuality. Do you see my point?
Now back to my statement regarding Jesus implicitly saying "I am not God" by him explicitly saying who is! Questions for you: Who knows Jesus better than anyone else? His FATHER right. Who knows the Father better than anyone else? The son, JESUS right. So do you agree the final authority on who they are should come from their mouths? I say Yes as the saying goes "It is straight from the horses mouth"
Your bible may say "Lord" but I encourage you to do your research with the Hebrew Scriptures and you will see the Tetragrammaton (יהוה)Which is YHWH or Yahweh
I will deal with the Father first and show what He and others have to say: Deuteronomy 7:9, Isaiah 42:5; 45:6,18; Ezra 1:3; 1 Kings 18:21. Do you agree from these scriptures that they confirm without a shadow of doubt these three clear points (i) The Father is Yahweh (ii) Yahweh is the True God (iii) there is no one else besides Him. Meaning the "Only True God" They should as those scriptures are explicitly clear on those points.
I too will quote from the book of John and Matthew
Now for who Jesus said he was and others too: John 20:20 - If Jesus said God is his God how is Jesus all powerful and co-equal? That would mean Jesus is worship to God just like us because Jesus said God is our God too. John 4:34 - Jesus said he lives because he does his Father's will. What would happen if Jesus said I want to go my way and do my own thing and stop listening to God's will. Hint. The devil and his angels done it and so did Adam and Eve. Those who are to perish are ones that don't want to listen and follow God's ways! John 1:34; 20:31- Identify Jesus as Son of God and NOT God the Son. Even Jesus's enemies called him the Son of God NOT God the Son. Matthew 26:63. The Devil and demons recognised exactly who he was too as Son of God NOT God the Son.Matthew 4:6; 8:9 Even the Disciples knew Jesus is the Son of God NOT God the Son. {Matthew 16:15,16} Jesus said “The Father is greater than I am” (John 13:16; 14:28).The Greek word here rendered “greater” (meiʹzon) is used in many contexts where one person or thing is said to be superior to another. Jesus explicit words mean Jesus acknowledged his Father’s greatness, authority, and superior position over himself
Finally this point John 8 12-18 Jesus says the witness of two is true. Now remember the principle of homosexuality and now adding the bearing of witness by two. The father has given witness that He is Yahweh and the True god and shares that top spot with no-one else. Here is my final scripture where Jesus said "I am not God" John 17:3 Here we have JESUS"S OWN WORDS saying (i) You (ii) Only (iii) True God - then he goes on to add himself "and the one whom you sent". Jesus saying "their coming to know YOU" is pointing to someone other than himself. Even if that was a to a Group, he has singled out one person in particular by saying ONLY TRUE GOD. So who in no ambiguous terms said He was the True God and no one besides him. Is it not Yahweh the only True god to which both Yahweh himself and Jesus bears witness to meaning it is true thus Jesus saying "I am not the True God, only my father Yahweh is"!!
Personally, I believe the Father’s and Son’s recorded own spoken words over the apostle John any day of the week even if your understanding of John 1:1 was correct. As you know, the bible is harmonious and believing John 1 as you do leaves room for contradiction between two groups Yahweh and Jesus against John as to who knows better
@@usethis2mail
So what do you think Jesus is if not God?
Scripture teaches about the only begotten Son of God clearly.
Begotten Son of God isn't termed in the biological sense concerning Christ says the scripture. Read the decree of God in Psalm 2:7 which later is taught by the Apostles in Acts 13:33-34 as raised / Resurrected / lifted up. Continue reading verse 35 which says, Thou shalt not suffer thy Holy One to see corruption. In Verse 37 Apostle says whom God raised (Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee)
Begotten Son of God is preached by the Apostles, which means the raised Christ. In Verse 38 & 39 through this man (Begotten Son) forgiveness of sins and justification by the Law of Moses is preached. In verses 40 & 41 Apostle is warning the despisers quoting a prophesy (….a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you) not to perish but believe in his begotten Son.
In the gospel of John 3:14 Jesus Christ spoke about the only begotten Son of God through the Old Testament prophetic verse. In Verses 3:15, 16 & 18 John established the truth about the only begotten Son of God, which scripture talk’s later Marvelous truth. Muslims / Yahweh Witnesses aren't given by God this Truth.
In Psalms 110: 1 & 4 the begotten Son is at the right hand of God which is sworn in as a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek in eternity. The writer of Hebrews in 5: 5 & 6 high lights the begotten Son after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 5:9 & 10 & 11 we read God calling the eternal author and savior as the high priest after the order of Melchizedek, of whom we have many things to say.
In Hebrews 5:4 we read that no man taketh this honor unto himself (self-appointed or esteemed). In Hebrews 5:5 Jesus was not made a high priest but the risen Christ (Begotten Son) was glorified after the order of Melchisedec by God.
In Hebrews 6: 17 - 20 we read about God’s Immutable counsel unto the heirs by an oath confirmed by two Immutable things. Christ fled for refuge into the veil to lay hold upon the hope set before us as a forerunner. As the begotten Son of God entered within the veil He was made a High Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
In Hebrews 7 we read about Melchisedec in plenty and in Chapter 8 as well. The Begotten Son links with The King of Zion & The order of Melchisedez.
Praise God
Hallelujah
Don't lie.
Begotten is indeed in a biological sense.
Father's dna and mother's(Marry) dna were united without they being married. So clearly jesus is a basturd.
23 chromosome came from marry his mother and tell now that where do other 23 chromosomes came from ?
Obviously from God, then did God made them if he did made them then jesus is a creation and if God take those 23 chromosome or dna inside of him than jesus is indeed God.
Kings of king , lord's of lord's then so become Priest of priest begotten son is coming will preach and restore/revive the Jerusalem and the temple in end time if you going to read the Daniel/Isaiah/John it's clearly told that the holy spirit is coming to god be the glory 🙏
@@kamransheikh7373You all Should not Miss the meaning of the sign of the Cruz that it's part of the salvation of earth
Begotten not found in the manuscript, it's later addition/fabrication.. it taken out from RSV Bible , 32 denomination by highest Christian scholar.
Which manuscripts? Western Alexandrian or Eastern Antiochian?
You are not correct. 'Begotten' is in the Wycliff translation, and that was translated from the Latin Vulgate, which comes from the most ancient manuscripts, and the WYC, like it's close relative the KJV, both have 'begotten' in John 3:16. If you are referring to the Hort and Wescott or the Vaticanus or something like that in your comment (your comment was not real precise), those are forgeries, a simple study of the history of them reveals that, but seminaries don't teach it, and pastors today are eager to be spoon fed rather than dig for truth, and they reside in the apostate church of the End Times so they won't see it, since GOD sends a delusion blinding their eyes (2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 Authorized (King James) Version). Peace of CHRIST to you.
@@JustinDeane222 buy an rsv bible and read it's first few pages and find out yourself what it said about the kjv. Or just google it.
@@jailtheology buy an rsv bible and read it's first few pages and find out yourself what it said about the kjv. Or just google it.
@@jailtheology "The King James Version has with good reason been termed “the noblest monument of English prose.” Its revisers in 1881 expressed admiration for “its simplicity, its dignity, its power, its happy turns of expression . . . the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm.” It entered, as no other book has, into the making of the personal character and the public institutions of the English-speaking peoples. We owe to it an incalculable debt.
Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870. The English Revised Version of the Bible was published in 1881-1885; and the American Standard Version, its variant embodying the preferences of the American scholars associated in the works was published in 1901."
Well done
Hear me out and stow the heresy haranguing...
The use of the word "Begotten" as a past particle descriptor for Jesus' entrance into our ephemeral plane in John 3:16 can hold such sublime significance if we embrace its possibilities rather than just suppose Christ as this lingering spiritual appendage perpetually existing in timelessness without any known pertinent purpose aside from a fleeting temporal dust up to prove parental passion by putting humanity on track for a easier opportunity to qualify for epiphanous post-life harmony within the unfathomable glory of our father God. Can't the Son have been eternally "brought fourth" by way of always being notioned for eventual designation in not a too dissimilar way that an architect may plan, or an artist might conceive, or an inventor should eureka - well prior to manifestation?
But first it would be beneficial to recognize that God requires no eternal Son for His infinite efficiency. Only an incarnated Son for a specificity.
It's always a curious turmoil as to why some of the faithful can allow themselves to feel antagonized and even scandalized by even entertaining the quite lovely perception toward the person of Jesus as being an ingenuity of God's creative determination.
I submit that when the vagueries of the archaic English term "Begotten" is sanwitched between the possessional context of 'God's" and the intentioned outcome of "Son" it can elegantly be inferred a refinement by divine proximity for a more poetic expansion of spiritual meaning beyond merely being "only inseminated and brought about by birth" into an emphatic testimony of being "uniquely derived and singularly embued" in reference to the exclusive conscience properties of God.
To me, "Begotten" is an astonishingly powerful term of singularly seminal resolution and sacrifice.
It seems Jesus as a flesh body amongst us under a constructed lineage and name must sensically in deed be a soley designed entity for aspecting God. Jesus' consciousness is directly derived from the eternal God almightly rather than merely a facsimile of some of God's core attributes as the rest of His earthly children's souls reflect. He's an authentic seeded and born man quite deliberately, as a partitioned authoritized proxy of God Himself for earnestly experiencing His creation in intimate fellowship and ministery with us His created by sharing our plights and delights on our terms from the perspective of our souls' limited state of temporal toil. God meeting with us on this equal plane as a contemporary is the ultimate act of empathy and most profound exampling of the humility we are called to emulate. Before Jesus' conception, He was not distiguished separate from the holistic entity of God's tri-omni absolute creative rule. On earth, Jesus is God purposefully limiting a segmented off representation of Himself from all the infinite power, presence and knowledge which God must inherently retain at all times and which cannot therefore be fully contained and contended within a created vessel of His particularly specified will for but a singled out matter of concentration.
Video Games now are an avenue into starting to possibly better comprehend the dynamics of the relationship. As the avatar that you play in the virtual world is a limited representation of the whole dimensionality possesed by the long previously existing and discretely breathing player behind the controler who negotiates their effigy around in the mere created simulation of the game. So in other words, while that character you're playing is acting out your volition as it applies to that milieu - and even as you are invested to motivate its every decisive motion moving toward an objective which you have chosen to pursue - simultaneously behind the controller you continue to contend with other tasks of your broader reality which does not and cannot be burdained upon the capacities of that figure of your intention which exist only in the game created simulator. Outside of that game you're still inhaling and exhaling, communicating for a result in other things, still swallowing, eating and drinking, scratching an itch, your physical organs are still processing, you are simultaneously thinking of multiple things unrelated to what your virtual character is going through even as you do concentrate devoted attentions on accomplishing his ends as well. So is your avatar in that simulation you (?) - well for all intents and purposes relevant to the tasks in that simulation the answer is yes, but transcendentally of that prospect then the answer becomes more accurately yes but not entirely.
So then how unfathomly more must God be moving seperately from His temporal dimensioned human proxy? Therefore shouldn't we logically surmise earthly Jesus has to be the Son, as the Father has more business than can be privy to the authentic human experience which was His proxy Jesus' mission to complete? Once His earthly mission was accomplshed, while the life experience of Jesus must be uniquely considered, Christ is no longer a partitioned aspect of the Father as His Son, but rather They are again He - as in One - and so too is His Holy Spirit which descends upon us as a beacon of His beckoning to comfort and lead us in His purposeful directions.
Another thought is how we precieve each other over the phone. We indentify the voice being picked up by a microphone wiring and processed through a complicated signal out to a speaker as still being a person, although it is a manifestation of that individual's personality being somewhat accurately represented for communication without actually being all that that person truly is or can be. If we have aspects to ourselves which are identified in separation as still being us, then just try to imagine what our infinite Creator can aspect.
That's a fashion for how I articulate my limited grasp on the subject anyway. The scriptures wisely do not bother wasting energy in attempting to detail more of the unmanageably complex and ultimately arbitrary convolution to the exact machinations for such an abstruse concept. Though certainly it does specifically detail that its primary figure who is called by the common name of Yeshua was particularly prepared from the lineage of God's chosen people who preserved His prophets for a designated time to be seeded by God and birthed for God's personalized solutions.
For my reckoning "Begotten" is a sublime window into the wonders of our Creator's divine designs and destinations as conducted through His own limb's ingenuity that at times seemingly act independent from one another whilst still actually being deliberately implemented by a singular mind with a harmonious goal.
It's not a false teaching, it's an evident inevitability.
1:11-13, ??? God didn't create Jesus??? I love the begotten explanation made simple but see what the Bible reveals regarding Jesus being possibly created, which is why like Adam and the Angels, he is addressed as a son( Adam=Luke3:38; Angels+Satan=Job1:6; because they were created) Revelations 3:13, says Jesus is "...the beginning of the creation by God...". "...first born of all creation...first in all things..." says Colossians 1:15-18 and "...Jehovah produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago..." Proverbs 8:22-31
These people refuse to listen to what the Old Testament says because their brains won’t accept what it says. The same applies to verses from the New Testament that say Jesus is not God.
@@0m4r21o May Jah help them in their understanding. They're in bondage of Satan's lies and deceit 2Cor 4:4
The Son of God is not a creation. The Son of God is an assignment done by God for salvation. There are 2 types of sons. Sons by creation (angels, Adam) & Sons by power (Christ & believers).
The begotten son of God is not the flesh Jesus who was born of Mary. The flesh Jesus of Nazareth who was doing miracles is not the son of God.
*Romans 1:4* *And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:*
*Hebrews 5:5* *So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.*
The son of God is the ressurected Christ. This is a spiritual being. So when you hear the Bible saying son of God, its not God making a baby. Its spiritual by being the first to rise from the dead and being like God who is above death. That is what that term means.
*John 1:12* *But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:*
The power that ressurects a person from the dead (Sin) is what makes a person a son of God.
The power of God is then defined as:
*Romans 1:16*
*For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.*
John 3v16 is to be read after you understand who the begotten Son is. Here is the interpretation:
*John 3:16*
*For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Ressurected Christ, that whosoever believeth in the Ressurection of Christ should not perish, but have everlasting life*
*John 11:25*
*Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:*
Meaning the Power of God is the begotten Son of God and is God Himself. There is no created item there.
* Galatians 6:15*
* For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.*
So the first born of every creature refers to the first one who beat death then the believers are the creatures that followed after Him.
@@lequartermilereyler3375.Jesus was the firstborn son of all creation ...first in all things ..." according to Col. 1:15-18, As well, Revelations 3:13, says Jesus is "...the beginning of the creation by God..." thus your statements, are philosophy found outside the Bible, not scriptural.
@@maneli3112 *Colossians 1:15* *Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:*
First born of every creature NOT created. READ SLOWLY. Then read the next verse.
*Colossians 1:16* *For by him were all things created.......*
If Jesus Christ created everything then who was creating at Genesis 1. Thats why He is called the Word of God.
You are confusing the Son of God and The Word of God/Jesus
Jesus Christ (Power of God/ Word of God) was existing before the Son of God. The Son of God is a salvation assignment. Thats why that term exists only when Jesus arrived in the flesh.
The same Jesus Christ will also come back as a judge not a Son of God.
*Revelation 19:12*
*His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.*
The one coming back is not called Jesus Christ or Son of God. No one knows His name yet just like no one knew Jesus Christ the Son of God before he came but we only had prophecy of a messiah. We now have prophecy of a judge.
These are assignments by 1 God. The salvation assignment needs people to believe in a Son of God then God comes with a flesh sacrifice.
You also think you can seperate God and the power of God and have 2 seperate. The power of God is also God. So how is the power of God created then.?.
All following these scriptures tell us the ressurected Christ is the Son of God.
Read:
Romans 1v1
Acts 13v33.
Hebrews 5v5,
1 Peter 1v 3.
Rev 1v5
John 11v25
The moment He rose up from the dead then John 3v16 was fulfilled. People could now be saved by the Son of God.
Its in the Bible. Read it slowly.
Begotten = God passes on is divinity in a special way to Jesus
Huh?!?
Like Father like Son. Divine! Not hard to understand. 😊
@@JustinDeane222 the father is not the son. That mean there are 2 God.
Easy to understand
@@esnan63 there can be only one. The Father, Son and Spirit are One. Do you understand how three can be one? Easy if you look at Light. R+G+B= not 3 lights but One LIGHT.
@@JustinDeane222 soo.. Which one is the true God?
The batteries perhaps 🤣
@@esnan63 the true God is who He is. And He has a Son of the same substance as Himself. So since they are from the same substance just as Red and Blue waves are different yet part of the same Light so The Father and the Son are both the same God.
It's easy when you compare it to LIGHT. That's why He made light like that. Also God has 7 Spirits just as a rainbow has 7 colours.
1 in 3, 3 in 1, 7 in 1, 1 in 7.
Such foolishness of trinity, can someone be ever be,begotten if they always existed alongside another being, having same divine substance back in eternity, then which one was Father,the both existed and what about the Holy Spirit,the father is Spirit and He is holy which one was the Father of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ trinity is a Demon possessed doctrine
To beget does not mean made it is a meaning for being unique not a starting point of creation.
So when was jesus begotten is the real question. Begotten only explains the relationship between the son and the father, a way for us humans to try and make sense of it.
When did jesus fulfill this prophecy of Psalm 2:7 that is applied to jesus? When did the father say to jesus today I have begotten you? How did jesus become better than the angels?
☆Hebrews 1:3-5 jesus became better than the angels when jesus sat at the right hand of God..... ●he was begotten after jesus was already born and died and was resurrected.... way after being born. Since jesus remains in a physical body even after resurrection, the father is still greater than him since God is God over all flesh. Jeremiah 32:27..... the father is always in better position rank than jesus.... sample John 14:28... in office-position but not essence. Since jesus remains in flesh the father is greater than him. So jesus was begotten at the resurrection. Also read acts 13:32-35. Jesus has eternally been with the father read hebrews 1:8-10, colossians 1:15-18, John 1:3.
Mathew 1:2
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,(F)
Isaac the father of Jacob,(G)
Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,(H)
Beget or begot means child brought into existance by reproduction
Judah not Judas
@@0m4r21o corrected thanks
@@MJ-qu9ls you’re welcome
God senting Jesus to earth Jesus senting the holy spirit to earth? If that happen the hard work of god and father will be glorious mean this coming he will bring the kingdom with him to glorify the god am I right?
What does it mean that god is the father of jesus? Does it not make more sense to believe that what is meant is that god is in jesus, and that jesus is his own god? Just like us all being gods. Another way to say it might be that we are the landlord of our own house. We decide who and what, we let in. Doesnt it say in the bible...."Dont ye know ye are gods?" Could the god of jesus be his very own being. His intuition? His own thought? His 'I Am?" The god that creates his reality? The same god who says to himself, " did I just say that?" That god that drives the avatar you call your body? I ponder over these things. When jesus sits at the right hand of his father, what is meant mystically? Did jesus suspect that he was his own god, but he would only be his own god if he willed it to be so? Sitting at the right hand of his father, might mean that he totally gets it. He is creating his world by his own thoughts words and deeds. He understands that he is god. The commander of his own body, including knowing, not merely saying that he can heal the sick.. I mean wouldnt that be a cool gig? To know that, by your very words, you create your reality.
The false doctrine of trinity is a confusion, and God is NOT the author of confusion. Jesus never taught trinity. Accept Islam and be saved. Watch dr. Zakir Naik's and Syeikh Ahmed Deedat's videos.
Either way, all of these things we both talk about are consepts of the human mind, are they not? Both of us are talking about ideas, we as humans either excepted as reality or didnt except as reality, at some point in our lives. Its likely that I would have chosen you religion, had I been raised where you were, and you most likely would know how to snow ski, if you were raised in the Swiss Alps.
@@JenNagleInk beautiful "generic" argument. What you should have asked me was, did i choose to be a muslim, and i would have answered i was a muslim by social conditioning of my family until i reached the age of reasoning and questioned my own religion, why did i believed what i believed, in my case it was when i was about 14 years old and researched which religion was the true religion and i chose that Islam is the only true religion and CHOSE to become a muslim. Ponder this : Pascal's wager favors theism, theism favors Islam. RUclips Zakir Naik is QUR'AN God's word. Skiing doesn't affect one's afterlife IF such thing as afterlife actually exists, ignoring and disbelieving God who created you in the first place does, IF God does actually exist. That's my friend, is the biggest IF you need to question yourself.
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 yet if we as humans have the consept of god, doesnt that still mean that we thought up god?
@@JenNagleInk no, in Islam it's the other way around, Prophet Muhammad pbuh said that everyone was born Muslim, submitting to Allaah's will :
"It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Every child is born in a state of fitrah (the natural state of man, i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew or a Christian or a Magian.” (Agreed upon)."
Believing in God is a child's innate disposition (fitrah), many researches have been done proving so. The indeginous tribe Kapauku believes in the same concept of God in Islam :
"The Kapauku Papuans Of West Guinea
The material is taken from a book called The Kapauku Papuans Of West Guinea by Leopold Pospisil. It is a case study of Stone-Age Kapauku tribe who led their aboriginal lives undisturbed by the spreading western civilization until 1938. The Kapauku Papuans are mountain people who belong to one of the several tribes whose members inhabit the central highlands of western New Guinea. Their country, most of which lies 1500 m above sea level, is composed of rugged mountain chains and deep valleys.
The Kapauku have an interesting world view. If we have to compare their religion versus Islam, the difference is very little. Regarding the Creator of the universe, the Kapauku believe:
The universe itself and all existence was Ebijata, "designed by Ugatame", the Creator, Ugatame has a dual nature: He is supposed to be masculine and feminine at the same time, is referred to as the two entities, and is manifested to the people by the duality of the sun and the moon. To my enquiry whether Ugatame was the sun and the moon I received the answer a firm denial. The sun is conceived as the ball of fire, because it provides light and is warm; moon is believed to be a cold light like that of a firefly or the bacteria that infest rotting wood. Sun and moon are only manifestations of Ugatame who thus makes his presence known to the people. they definitely are not Creator himself.[1]
On the nature of Ugatame, the Creator:
Ugatame is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, credited with the creation of all things and with having determined all events. Strangely enough, however, he is not believed to exist himself. When I questioned this contention, a Kapauku defended skillfully by a question: "But how can he exist when he created all the existence?" Obviously Ugatame is beyond existence, because to Kapauku all that exists must be of phenomenonal nature; one must be able to see, hear, smell, taste or feel it. But the Creator is beyond this phenomenal dimension, because of the simple reason that He created it. because He is so to speak, in the fifth dimension and is not of phenomenal nature, He is able to be omnipresent."[2]" www.islamic-awareness.org/history/prophet.html
Why delete my comments ? 🤔
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
@@jwjagian6790 lol my comments getting deleted 😂 hilarious and very controlled...
Wow, this just confuse me even more, u christians dont try to play with words, and bro, this really doesnt make any sense, 1+1+1= 1? Hahhaha
1×1×1=1 o:)
wrong! God in His essence and nature is eternally The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. Your logic defies the doctrine of the immutability of the Godhead.
You realize that doctrine presumes to limit the capacities our unfathonomly omni Creator to aspect right?
Holy??
Nonsense wrong information greek interpretation doesn't mean that
For sure just misleading souls
My bible throw out begotten. Says it is a Lie. See the dictionary for the meaning nothing what this Liars says.
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So god beget a son only to Sacrifice him, for himself, to appease himself😂😂😂
God learned obedience? and God had been made perfect?
Hebrew 5:8,9
8 Although *He (Jesus) was a son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered. 9 And after He (Jesus) had been made perfect,* he became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him,
*(Prophecy for killing people in the name of allah)*John 16:2*
2 (JESUS said) *Yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you shall think that he offereth service unto God.*
*How God made a little lower than angels?*
and yet God created the angels.
*Hebrews 2:9*
9 *But we do see Jesus, who was made a little lower than angels, now crowned with glory and honor for having suffered death, so that by God’s undeserved kindness he might taste*
John 5:28,29
28 *Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.*
Psalm 37:29
it's clear
A. LETTER TO TIMOTHY 2:5 For *there is one God, and one mediator between God and men,the man Christ Jesus!*
*John* *20:17*
17 *Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.*
*JOHN* *6:38*
*(Jesus said)*
38 *For I came down from heaven, not to do mine OWN will, but the will of HIM that sent me.*
*John* *14:28*
28 *Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.*
*Matthew* *20:23*
23 *And HE saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of MY cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not MINE to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my FATHER.*
*John* *5:30*
30 *I can of MINE own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not MINE own will, but the will of the FATHER which hath sent ME:*
*John* *17:20**-23*
*(ONE IN GLORY)*
20 *Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on ME through their word; 21 That they all may be ONE; as THOU, FATHER, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US: that the world may believe that THOU hast sent ME. 22 And the glory which thou gavest ME, I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE: 23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be made perfect in ONE.and that the world may know that thou hast sent ME. and hast loved THEM. as THOU hast loved ME;
*only thrue Lord God is JEHOVAH*! *(the Father*.) *and his first creation is JESUS CHRIST*(the Son) (as REVELATION 3:14 said *FIRST CREATION OF GOD) everything else created by *JESUS CHRIST*!....
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I find this confusing!
The false doctrine of trinity is a confusion, and God is NOT the author of confusion. Jesus never taught trinity.
even ..prophet david also beggoten
You’re just saying something different than what the most famous dictionary Oxford says
Oxford gives the definition ; (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction. This is the real definition for the word begotten in Oxford brought by google
First point to make
The definition says mostly man, god isn’t a man
Second point to make
The definition says to bring a child with the process of reproduction
God doesn’t do sex
So therefore either Jesus is only a son or righteous man of god either did sex or he’s a man most probably
I agree with the first thing
Oxford dictionary is not the best source for theological understanding
But theology decided to use a word that is best described by Oxford
The Word “BEGOTTEN” *REMOVED* From All Major Revised Bibles along with *John 1:57* and Mark 16!!
So All you 🤡 Dancing with snakes 🐍 *YOU GOT IT WRONG!!* 🤦🏽😂🤣
WHEN THE FULNESS OF TIME WAS COME *****GOD SENT FORTH (HIS) ****SON ****MADE**** OF A WOMAN) ***MADE*** OF A WOMAN, ****MADE **** OF A WOMAN ,CREATED, BEGOTTEN, THE SON HAD A BEGINNING
Eww... that was horrible. Google "begotten" and definition 2. give rise to; bring about. Father / Son / Holy Spirit are one being, thus, "one in being with the Father," nothing is "passed on to Jesus" as Jesus is "begotton not "birthed or made" meaning Jesus
emerges WITH the Father in existence along with the Holy Spirit, "who proceeds from the Father and the Son" ... all three perspective emerge without birth "be" ... one being, thus, "I am" and not "we are." Modern day thinkers, huh ? Still separating all three identifiers of one Supreme Being. Very juvenile, however, a worthy attempt by good deeds people: and I know becuase ... "of their deeds." Thumbs up.
God n Mary made Jesus through reproduction
The false doctrine of trinity is a confusion, and God is NOT the author of confusion. Jesus never taught trinity.
God the Father is not Jesus Christ they are both of them our one God and the Holy Spirit all three all one God . Begotten means the only one from the dead he's only son raised from the dead Jesus Christ
Beget means procreation through copulation...wtf
Jesus never heard the word christian in his lifetime. Jesus was a muslim, one who submits to God's will.
Nope
@@jailtheology prove me wrong
@@zakirnaikahmaddeedat3651 I don't think I can 'prove' anything about GOD, it has to be shown by GOD, not me, and it can't be pointed out to via things of the world unless GOD intervenes and causes a miracle: 'we walk by faith not by sight' 2 Cor. 5:7. I can safely assume you don't have any 'proof' for your original points either. The issue is really just seeing GOD and His works, then you know, faith is evidence (Heb. 11:1), and we are to believe on the evidence of the works of the Father (John 14:11), but these are not scientific evidence, but revelations shown from GOD (Gal 1.11-12).
The word Christian existed 700 years before islam. Your argument is silly.
Its like singing umbrella and claim it to be a new release yet Rihanna already sang umbrella in 2011.
The word "BEGOTTEN" is a function of lower animal of sex
John, in his John 3:16 says that Jesus is the
"BEGOTTEN" son of God while Matthew, in his Matthew 3:17 says that God said Jesus is His son!
At the same time, Matthew, in his Matthew 8:20 and Matthew 11:19, reported Jesus as saying that he is a son of man!
Do we believe what Jesus himself said about himself
OR what they said about Jesus? Was Matthew present and he heard God saying that Jesus is His son as he
reported in his Matthew 3:17?
How can someone attribute such function of lower animal of sex to God?
❌Doesn't make sense... at all !
Your interpretation is worthless for several reasons. First, Genesis 6 shows that the Father "begot" "begat" or "began" or whatever created a bunch of sons-of-god. More importantly, because "begotten" is not the word that John wrote. The word used was Greek, and it was "monogene". Monogene is not "begotten", unless you already have a pro-trinity bias you need to change the terms to support your agenda.
Monogene refers to a particular genetic lineage. Jesus was a particular genetic lineage - that's his monogene. Monogene has nothing to do with being God, or being a son of god. That was added hundreds of years later by churches to support their trinity claim. You are just repeating the hogwash.
@Alan Jay I hate to burst your bubble, but "Colossians and John" do NOT "both state (that) Jesus made everything..."
Let me explain:
1. Due to the Church being a liar - you've got to cite which translation, because there's dozens of translations with various words.
2. You've got to cite which language - because the English language is not equivalent to the Greek, nor to the latin.
3. The original Greek John 1:1-3 referred to something like:
In the beginning was LOGOS, and the logos was with God. Which means - essentially - that the God is logical and so the origin (or the beginning of the cosmos) was a logical rational ordered sequence.
Logos is an ancient Greek philosophy about the origin of the cosmos and apparently ordered - structured - logical composition of the cosmos. Logos Theory dates back to at least 500 BC.
The glorious Christian church switched the "logos" in John 1:1-3 to "the word" in order to trick you into the false doctrine that Jesus was the creator.
No! John described a single creator whose logical mind created a logical universe. But that's not what the Church wanted people to think - so the church changed the words - the church lied.
As to Col. 1: 16 and the words (depending on which translation you get)
"For by him were all things created..."
But who is "him"??? You may infer that "him" is Jesus - that's what the church wants you to think. But "him" could also refer to the Creator (not Jesus).
How would you check to determine whether Paul's "him" was a pronoun referring to the Creator or Jesus? You'd read the context.
In Col. 1:1 Paul refers to BOTH "Christ" and "God". So you've got at least 2 potential beings to deal with.
In verse 2 Paul refers to "God" as "our Father" (which is how Jesus referred to God); and Paul refers to "Jesus" as "the Lord".
Paul did NOT say that God the Father is "in essence" the same as Jesus the Lord.
Quite the contrary, in verse 3 Paul refers to "God" as "the Father" of our "Lord Jesus".
I don't know about you, but I know that my father existed before me, and his father existed before him. So, I infer that God the Father existed before Jesus.
Verse 12 - "give thanks unto the Father WHICH HATH MADE US....."
Obviously, Paul is claiming that the Father made us - not Jesus.
Verse 13 - the Father also "delivered us from the power of darkness". The Father is the deliverer - not Jesus.
Verse 14 "in whom we have redemption". That pronoun "whom" could apply to either God (the Father) or to Jesus. Debatable. Typically, (when there's a doubtful pronoun) the antecedent is the subject of preceding paragraph. In that case the subject is God the Father - so the "whom" refers to God the Father.
Verse 19 shows that the Father is boss
"For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell".
So, you are free to read the whole chapter - but the Church does not want you to do that because if you did read the full chapter you'd begin to have doubt about what the Church wants you to think.
There are no "3 persons" in God. That's just an absurd Church fantasy based on Greek polytheism.
The Church needed to be polytheistic in order to appeal to pagans. So the Church created a "trinity". But that is completely contrary to Judaic teachings that Jesus and his apostles promoted because they were Judaic.
Just my thoughts. You are free to make your own mind. I say that there is just 1 single Creator, and he does not have multiple personalities.
Jesus was just a man, as was Moses, as was Elijah, as were many other miraculous prophets.
@Alan Jay I'm glad your bubble ain't burst. But as I recall it was you who described your "idea" about Jesus being begotten and eternal, and that he "can't be in the made category" and that he was "God from eternity" but somehow begotten. You mention "Paul" "John" and "Colossians" as some sort of source for your idea, along with "all 3 persons" a "unified god" and of course "essence".
I read your idea but it makes zero sense to me. Yes, you mentioned a variety of elements: god, essence, 3 persons, eternity, begotten, etc. etc. - but it's just a collection of words that's incomprehensible to me.
For example, Neither John nor Colossians wrote that God was "3 persons".
Because you seem to have based your idea on John and Colossians, I looked up the verses that seems to match what you claimed (because you did not cite verses). And I did a simple word analysis to see if your claim was true. It's not. What you wrote is false. Your claim is false because "John and Colossians both..." DO NOT "...state the Jesus made everything".
Best Wishes to you
@@baubljos103 no I have disagree with you as well because most people who are Greek and Hebrew Scholars they all Recognize Christ as God and The Son of Man if that was the case then the whole fall of Christianity would’ve already fell God bless you
@@LosHomiesDre You make a claim about Hebrew scholars?
Exodus 4:22 This is God speaking to Moses:
"Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Israel is My son, My firstborn."
Numbers 25:3-5 This is Moses's report:
"So Israel was joined to Baal of Peor, and the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel."
1 Kings 18:21
" And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word."
Sir, the mere fact that you have a handful of "Hebrew Scholars" that "REcognize Christ" does NOT mean that Jesus is god, because Hebrew scholars have been wrong about god.
And furthermore your "Hebrew Scholars" argument does not address the fact that "monogene" is the term used to describe a genetic lineage. As such, your "Hebrew Scholar" argument is a fallacy of logic known as the red herring fallacy.
You telling me "white" g-Zeus isn't god? 😢
typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence .
Ridiculous. Logically , scientifically , philosophically and common sense. 😊 Cuz , Jesus created by God not begotten.
KJV Dictionary Definition: begotten BEGOT', BEGOT'TEN, pp. of get. Procreated; generated. Definitions from Webster's American Dictionary .the only child made