John 1:1-18 - the Truth of John's Prologue
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- The only important thing is John's intended message not your personal desires or what you wish he is saying. John is introducing THE MINISTRY OF JESUS from the first three words of verse 1 through to the end of verse 18. At John 1:18 he makes a summary statement about what he has been talking about for the first 17 verses. No one has ever seen God but the fleshly man Jesus declared the Father and made Him known. The word proclaimed WAS God. The "beginning" in question is the ministry of Jesus, where the Christian faith began. What he is introducing in his prologue is the Father-Son project we see throughout his Gospel, that is, how the word proclaimed by Jesus was the Father making Himself known to the world through a body of flesh. The Father's word became flesh, that is, his word, the expression of He Himself, was manifested in the flesh named Jesus, the word became flesh.
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, SO THAT you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven" Matthew 5:44.
Section 1 - 1:1-5 Introductory Statement - what John's Gospel is about, the ministry of Jesus
Section 2 - 1:6-13 The Father, the True Light, was coming into the world to make Himself known
Section 3 1:14-17 The only begotten, the fleshly man Jesus, is HOW the Father did it
Summary Statement 1:18 No one has ever seen the Father but the only begotten, the man of flesh Jesus, expresses him.
1:1a - the beginning is the beginning of our faith, the beginning of Christianity which is the ministry of Jesus
1:1a - the word is the word proclaimed by Jesus, his food/bread was to do the will of the Father and finish his work
1:1b the word which will be proclaimed was pros the Father because it is the Father who will be expressing Himself through Jesus
1:1c the word was God - the word proclaimed by Jesus was the Father, making the Father known to the world. The Father expressed himself through the man Jesus who spoke the Father's words and did the Father's works. In this way, the Father made Himself known - His light, His truth, His life, His love.
1:3 Everything which came to pass did come to pass through the word proclaimed by Jesus. The things coming to pass pertains to things which constituted "the beginning," that is, the beginning of Christianity, the new creation of God where Jesus is the firstfruits.
1:10 The Father was in the world and the world came to be through Him and the world did not know the Him. 1 John 3:1; John 17:25. Jesus was not alone; the Father was with him, abiding in Him, and the Father did His mighty works through that flesh named Jesus.
1:11 Israel was God's own possession. Bible 101.
1:12-13 Jesus came in the name of his Father. The Father's name was His character, His light, His truth, His life, His love. Jesus the man expressed these things, that is, he expressed the Father, the name of the Father (His character), and that is why Jesus said "the name you gave me." Jesus expressed the Father's character to us, especially His love. To believe in the name of Jesus is itself to believe in the name of the Father because Jesus expressed who/what the Father is.
Those who believed were begotten of God. Jesus is the first man who was begotten of God and he was the only begotten during his ministry which is why verse 13 discussing those begotten of God transitions to verse 14 introducing the only begotten son.
1:14 Jesus' food was to do the Father's will (4:33-34). When you eat bread, it becomes you, your flesh. The bread is the Father's word. Jesus ate this bread by doing it (4:34). In this way, the word became flesh because he embodied the Father's word by always doing it. Again, this language refers to the Father making Himself known through Jesus because doing the Father's will was making the Father known to the world. He was the Father's word in fleshly form.
Beginning at John 1:1a, John's Prologue is referring to the ministry of Jesus, a Father-son project
So according to you,John logos wasn't the same as Philo logos(or should i write Logos).
Philo-Logos
John-logos.
@@user-tj5mi5bb9m He wrote against the teachings of Cerinthus whose ideas may have come from Philo
That makes perfect sense in the beginning was the word the word is God and the Word was with God and the word became flesh by his word shining through his son Christ Jesus I never thought about it that way now it makes it more clear thank you for the video
Please reply john 1:2
Is the proper translation says
[ this ] was with God
Meaning (the word)? Because all 5 bibles I have says ( he is with god )
It's like jesus is the word what proof is there that I can see the proper translation of that verse
@@henrylafromboise4581 Yes, the Greek words in verses 2 and 3 mean something the same as the English word "this."
I just love listening to you. I have learned so much over the years from you and feel blessed. Thank you for making time for us to share the truth of our Messiah and His Father.
I always seen John one as the beginning means the beginning of creation. Because we know that creation has to be an example when God spoke and everything came into being. There is a beginning when God used His word to create everything that is made. How could John be ignoring that awesome example of God creating by His word.
We are born again the same way according to 1 Peter 1:23 born by the imperishable seed- the word of God.
This is just remarkable. May God bless you excessively for your ministry, sir.
Amen, I agree with you 100%, was trinitarian 2 years ago as my journey started, trying to preach to trinitarians now, it’s hard, I hope God opens their harts
The Lord will teach you if you ask him.
You are correct brother Kel. I have understood John the very same way for many years but thought I was the only one. So refreshing to hear it explain the way I understand it to be. Thank you Kel be blessed
Happy to hear it brother.
I would like to say, I have enjoyed this video. I have never believed the trinity in the 50 years I have endeavoured to be a Christian. As a JW the understanding I had did not hang true.( I left many years ago) Your reasoning is enlightening, I shall certainly follow through with my reading of John's Gospel and Epistles to verify the content of your video. May God continue to bless you as you serve him.
Good one. God the Father working through His Son is essential in understanding this. And the same beginning mentioned in the other gospels and 1John.
@Sage of Synergism "concerning" the word of life. 1 John 1 doesn't prove any relationship to Jesus being "THE WORD", or being divine.
@@zamiel3 John 1:14 does, however.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 No, it doesn't.
@@zamiel3
_"And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth"_
Does that help???
Jesus was the ONE that dwelt among us even so called Emanuel "God With Us" as Jesus was God ... with ... us
See how that works??? When you write "no it doesn't" but do not back up your reply with facts and evidence, it loses all credibility.
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 I am well aware of what it says. Unfortunately you are confused by it. Is "light" god? Is the firmament? No. The writer of John is not an apostle. There are no references to any of the apostles calling Jesus, god, only ever a man. Nor any references to Jesus saying, "I am god". Jesus did not pray to himself. Nor, did Jesus raise himself from the dead. You seem to be ignoring this, for some odd reason.
If I have understood correctly you are suggesting that John 1:1 means the following: From the very beginning of his ministry Christ proclaimed God. This proclamation pertained to God, and God manifested and expressed himself through Christ.
Is that correct?
Sounds like it
I think Christ is very clear, he is the temple of God...the Lamb and the Son. Look at his description in Rev, Daniel and Ezekiel....he is describe as the tabernacle. Tear down this temple and I will rebuild it in 3 days, a spiritual temple.
@@liwanagbautista8780 Yes, the body of Christ is the temple of Christ. And believers are the body of Christ.
I'm feeling so blessed to have found your channel. May God bless and keep you..
Trust and obey. God bless you.
God bless you for this vid
Just occurred to me that when the words "It is finished" were uttered, when Jesus had fulfilled the will of the Father, it wasn't that he died but that there was no more Word for him to express ...
He had done everything the Father had willed for Him to do. The Father was finished doing His will through Jesus.
Thank you Brother Kel for this teaching, People have been confused for so many years about John's prologue, John was not referring to the Genesis creation, he was referring to the beginning of Christ's ministry. Same as the synoptic Gospels, John would not have disagreed with the other three gospels.
@Sage of Synergism ,no you didn't listen to the video, John was referring to the beginning of Jesus' ministry, just like the three other Gospels were also. Matthew starts out with Jesus' geneology, Matt.3:1speaks about John The Baptist; John 1:6 speaks of John the Baptist. Mark 1:1 speaks about The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Luke 1:31 speaks about the conception and birth of Jesus. 1John 1:1 starts off about the beginning(referring to the beginning of Jesus' ministry.) John would not disagree with the other three gospels or 1John 1:1which were not speaking about the Genesis creation.
@@4321grp
Jesus genealogy goes all the way back to Adam. Or, the beginning. In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God. Genesis 1 - "God SAID let there be light" so why did God speak? Because Jesus Christ is the Word. Goes on to say the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. From the beginning.
Jesus Christ is God bodily, Colossians 2:9
@@worthyisthelamb6071 Colossians 2:9 does not say that Jesus Christ is God bodily, you’re trying to force a trinitarian meaning into this verse. It says:
9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
This is because he now has a new glorified body given to him by his Father and the only true God who resurrected him from the dead. If you read the rest of this chapter, you’ll see we can look forward to the same thing if we allow ourselves to be buried with Christ through baptism and correct living.
Jesus reveals his Father to us, he only did and said what his Father told him to do and say.
The trinity is false
Peace
Excellent explanation
They like to take out word and put in Jesus . I believe it a new world in the Christ .
..The Apostle John refers to the Word as Jesus....
In Trinity world, you get to imagine whatever you like into the Scriptures.
In the beginning was the Word. Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
Great video Kel!! The point I enjoyed most was 23:08 on ward because it confirmed to me that “the word made flesh” is a reference of his baptism. And this is also confirmed with John the Baptist’s words here also:
John 3:34 “For he whom God has SENT speaks the WORDS of God; for God GIVES THE SPIRIT without measure.”
This videos are valuable Kel. Keep at it. Many ridicule and name call but many are hearing and finally getting it. I’m reading Johns gospel over and more things are just clicking. Man oh man have we missed the boat!
God bless you brother.
Very good point. I will keep that in mind.
Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Also, John 1:1 correlates with Genesis 1:1. In the beginning - the first adam, in the beginning was the Word - the second adam. Jesus Christ
The Word is Christ, God SAID let there be... and there was. God did not need to speak, He is Almighty. But you have the triune nature of God in the first few lines. "In the beginning God created... He said let there be light.... the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep"
The Word, the Father, the Spirit. 1 John 5:7 these three are ONE. Genesis 1:26 "let US make man in OUR image" genesis 1:27 it says HE, and HIM, back to singular? Almost like God is 3 persons in one.
Genesis 18: God appears to Abraham, and 3 men stood by him? Interesting. Abraham says My LORD, why does he speak singularly to three? And why does the Lord say "shall I hide from abraham the thing which I do" who are these three?
Like I said God bless you but you are blinded by the god of this world. Let a man of wisdom be the wiser, let your ears be opened and your heart become flesh. Amen
The new camera looks great! Thanks for all your effort! Excellent video. Bill Schlegel did a podcast on this you should check out. Blessings
Thank you.
I read it as John 1:1 being a complete thought... verse 2 to 17 is a entirely different subject. And 18 picks back up on verse 1. If you take out 2-17, you still get a cohert narrative. Verse 1 is about the word of God. 2 to 17 is about God and His relationship and interaction with His creation.
Thank you.
If we accept your interpretation of John's prologue, it must fit with 1 John chapter 1, particularly the introductory verses. Can you reconcile the two accounts?
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No problem
1 John 1 doesn't conflict. It doesn't say Jesus *IS* "THE WORD". 1 John 1 says *"concerning the word".*
@@zamiel3
En arche en ho Logos:
In the beginning was the Word
kai ho Logos en pros ton theon:
and the Word was with/towards the God
kai Theos en ho Logos:
and God was the Word.
In the case of John 1:1, en is used to denote the Word's continous past existence before the very beginning of creation. For the Word to precede the beginning of all things, including time, implies that the Word is timeless, having no beginning or end. This makes the Word eternal which implies that the Word eternally existed with the Father. This also implies that the Word eternally existed as God, or existed in the nature of God from eternity. At no point in time did the Word not exist in the nature of God.
This is precisely what Trinitarians believe, that the eternal Word of God existed alongside the Father, being distinct from him but equal to him in nature.
Further evidence for the absolute deity of the Word comes from John 1:3-4,10:
"Through him (the Word) all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men... He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him."
According to John, the Word was not a creature but the Eternal Creator. For John to affirm that the Word was the Creator of all things implies that the Word is Yahweh, since the Old Testament teaches that it was Yahweh alone who created all things:
"I am the LORD, who has made all things, who ALONE stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by MYSELF." Isaiah 44:24
For Yahweh to be the sole Creator, and for the Word to have created all things, must mean that the Word is Yahweh God. Add to this fact that from eternity the Word existed alongside another Person called God, and yet the Bible clearly teaches that there is only one God, implies that this one God is a multi-personal being.
@@jacobsenh7383 Believe all you'd like. It doesn't refute what I stated.
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
Trust and Obey.
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
This is the truth ! The God's Name was plan to be manifest in flash!...our lord juses came by the Name Father.
In John 1:1 “the Word was with God” can you elaborate on that please. Thanks!
Every trinitarian after listening to this are without excuse..
@Willy Friedlander it's not your business to convict me of my sins it's work of Holy Spirit. You had blasphemed Holy Spirit and dishonered God the Father of Jesus and dishonered MAN Jesus because He being a MAN have not sinned once when you sin every day.
@@Mckaule
Interesting my friend, the bible says no one is righteous NOT EVEN one. And that none is Holy but God, but Jesus is Holy?
@@worthyisthelamb6071 So you say that God was not perfect and was not obedient to himself or Paul was lying ? "Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him"
@@Mckaule
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Colossians 2:9
He was never imperfect, conceived in marry by the Holy Spirit, the immaculate conception. 100% man, and 100% God. Do not add or take from the bible my friend.
@@worthyisthelamb6071 you just did it.. Try not to add to this, Jesus is risen and in Heaven already when Paul writes Ephesians. --> "That the GOD OF our Lord JESUS CHRIST, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:"
Ephesians 1:17, or maybe you want to argue Jesus himself you serpent: "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.
Revelation 3:12 KJV. How you
wiggle your tale now you lying devil ?
Brother Kel I love your videos, especially because you do not defame the Mosaic Law, the Old Testament and because you uphold the truth about the Father Son relationship, which is inherently-ontologically subordinate. I am curious to know whether or not you completely adhere to the Socinian theology? As I believe Penal Substitution is Biblical, as per the book of Hebrews, and am not sure where you stand on the issue.
Amen
*"John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."* John 1:15
*"This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me."* John 1:30
How to understand it?
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"Same as it was in the beginning" the word (same) present a : compare and contrast statement. This is comparing 2 beginning. The creation beginning with the new age beginning.
Sorry to be blunt but this is silly - it's horrible exegesis- it's a desperate attempt to circumvent the obvious meaning of the text...
I say this as someone who adheres to a BU theology
That's too bad for you then.
Excellent Kel, and I see so many in the comments who just didnt listen or had their reason switched off at the very start, or just dont understand because of the fog of religion in their heads..
Love it. And so to extend this, as we are now the "body of Christ" just as Jesus "manifested" his God, so we manifest the man Jesus who God raised and gave all authority and lordship to. We are manifesting Jesus, just as Jesus manifested god. We actually manifest them both because God IS that spirit we are sealed with and through which Jesus works in us.
So extending this further and the NT tells us we are "living sacrifice" then we see we can indeed if we choose, be like Jesus and sacrifice ourselves, our flesh, to allow the word to be at work in us, like Jesus did, and then we would be like Jesus, doing the works of jesus, like the scripture tells us to be and do. That would then be a true light to the world, in us.
Oh if only we could bring our will to this point. To actually do this, we would all be like another Jesus, the very thing he told his disciples to do, go out and make new disciples, and be a living sacrifice, as he did. The world will hate us of course, as he said. Then we would indeed be "sons of the living God" and heirs of Abraham. Because this is what was promised through Abraham into the age that is almost upon us.
Thank you Kel, another piece falls into place.
Jesus was not a created being. He has existed from eternity with God the father because He is God also. Praise the triune God.
@@timothys4864 dear sir. look again, because your statement is completely wrong. Why do you insist the passover lamb must be God himself? Adam owed the blood price, so a son of man must pay the blood price, not a god pretending to be a man.
God is the only one who can save us, and does by the provision of the spotless lamb.
1Tim, "there is one God and one mediator between God and man, the MAN Jesus anointed."
why do you insist Jesus has to be God?
@@ken440 So you are saying that Jesus was a created being?
@@timothys4864 Was Adam God? are you saying the second Adam, the lamb of God must be God? why?
@@ken440 Adam was not God. Jesus is God.
Was Jesus a created being?
If we reject the Trinity, then we accept that idea of multiple gods existing which has pagan roots.
If we allow multiple gods then we have many contradictions in the Bible that reveal there is only ONE God.
Isaiah tells us that GOD doesn't know of any other god nor was any god formed BEFORE or AFTER god, making Him the only God ever.
If we know that:
The Father is God
Jesus is God
Holy Spirit is God
and by rejecting the Trinity, we have a universe that contains 3 different gods.
If we reject that Jesus is God, then we reject the main reason why Jesus was put to death among many verses that claim Jesus is God (ie: Hebrews 1:8)
And if Jesus is not God, then His death did not cover all our sins as only one PERFECT could accomplish this goal. Only GOD is perfect and cannot sin.
Jesus didn't sin because Jesus was perfect.
It's OK to reject the Trinity as belief in the concept does not save you, nor does belief in Noah's Ark, a global flood or Moses parting the Red Sea. If you reject all these things, but still believe that Jesus died, was buried and was resurrected which is the gospel message (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Romans 10:9-10), then you are saved by grace ... not of our works (Ephesians 2:8-9) but by our faith in Him alone.
The video does not follow sound biblical teaching where we consider *ALL* scripture as perfect without contradiction.
"If we reject the Trinity, then we accept that idea of multiple gods existing which has pagan roots."
No. You should accept the idea that there is only one God to refer TO and that one and only God is Jesus Christ's God. His God was not a three person being.
@@TheTrinityDelusion so we should accept false teachings because that is what you believe? Are you starting your own religion?
I'd rather believe what the Bible has to say about it as that came from the Holy Spirit which will not lie or contradict.
After spending over 17 years studying with Catholic, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, universal unitarian, 7th Day Adventist, Christian Science and others, it's easy to see a pattern of negligence within these organizations and the bind that keeps members in fear to get truth only from their leadership.
A man born alone on an island without outside influence would never believed the garbage they teach if he had only the Bible in his possession. By Bible I mean KJV or NASB or ESV. Others like NIV, NWT, NKJV and "The Message" among others are corrupted by men.
@ああ Elohim is the most commonly used word for God in the Hebrew Bible, more so than any other term with the exception of the Tetragrammaton or divine name, which in Hebrew is represented by the letters yod he waw he, i.e. YHWH (commonly rendered as Yahweh). Elohim appears approximately 2570 times in the OT writings.
It is plural in form, having the plural masculine suffix im.
We completely agree that the word ‘Elohim’, in and of itself, cannot establish that God is a Triune Being, since the term cannot tell us how many divine Persons there are, whether two, three, four or more. It can, however, point to the fact that the one true God eternally exists as more than one divine Person.
But a better reason can be seen in Scripture itself where, in the very first chapter of Gen, the necessity of a term conveying both the unity of the one God and yet allowing for a plurality of persons is found (Gen 1:2, 26). This is further borne out by the fact that the form ’elohim occurs only in Hebrew and in no other Semitic language, not even in Biblical Aramaic.” (Gustav F. Oehler, Theology of the Old Testament, p. 88).
“While both Trinitarians and Unitarians expect to find singular words applied to God, because they both believe there is only one God numerically speaking, only Trinitarians expect to find the plural words used of God as well. We have yet to see a Unitarian book in which God is referred to as ‘They’ or ‘Them.’ But this is the standard practice in Trinitarian books…
“But when it comes to plural nouns, pronouns, adjectives and verbs, this not something which a Unitarian would expect to be applied to God in the Bible. We have yet to hear a Unitarian refer to God as ‘Them.’ But this would be exactly what a Trinitarian would expect to find in the Bible.
“If God is multi-personal, then, we would expect to find God saying, ‘We,’ ‘Us,’ or ‘Our’ as well as ‘I,’ ‘Myself’, or ‘Me’ because God is One and Three at the same time. The doctrine of the Trinity requires the plural as well as the singular while Unitarianism only requires the singular.” (Morey, The Trinity: Evidence & Issues [Christian Scholars Press, Las Vegas, NV], Part II: The Old Testament Evidence, Chapter Seven. A Multi-Personal God, pp. 90-91; bold emphasis ours)
“Did the authors of the Bible use plural words for God? Yes, they did. The plural form of El is Elohim, which is the most frequently used word for ‘God’ in the Bible (i.e., Gen. 1:1).
“The word Elohim is translated as ‘gods’ over four hundred times in the Bible. That it is a true plural is seen from the fact that it has plural verbs and plural adjectives modifying it…” (Ibid., p. 91; bold emphasis ours)
Unfortunately for unitarians, this is precisely what we find the inspired authors of the Hebrew Bible doing, namely, describing Yahweh with plural nouns, pronouns, adjectives, verbs and so on.
It is to these examples that we now turn our attention.
First Example
“And when God (Elohim) caused me to wander (hit‘u) from my father's house, I said to her, ‘This is the kindness you must do me: at every place to which we come, say of me, He is my brother.’” Genesis 20:13
The verb hit‘u, translated “cause to wander”, is the plural of ta`ah. The text can therefore be translated as, “When Gods (Elohim), they caused me to wander from my father’s house.”
Second Example
“and there he built an altar and called the place El-bethel, because there God (Elohim) had revealed himself (niglu) to him when he fled from his brother.” Genesis 35:7
The verb that modifies the noun God (Elohim) is niglu (revealed), which is plural for galah. Thus, the verse literally reads, “Gods, They revealed themselves to him.”
Third Example
“For what great nation is there that has a god so near (Elohim qarobim) to it as the Lord our God is to us, whenever we call upon him?” Deuteronomy 4:7
The adjective qarobim is the plural form of qarob. The verse can thus be translated as, “gods who are so near.” The text is likening Yahweh to gods who are close enough to their people to save and protect them. The passage is basically saying that, unlike the other nations, the Israelites have been privileged to have their Gods nearby to answer them anytime they call on them.
Fourth Example
“For what mortal has ever heard the voice of the living God (Elohim chayyim) speaking out of fire, as we have, and survived?” Deuteronomy 5:26
“But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God (Elohim chayyim), the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.” Jeremiah 10:10 - cf. 23:36; 1 Samuel 17:26, 36
The Hebrew literally reads, “Gods who are living,” since the chayyim is plural and literally means lives. Now there is a singular form for the Hebrew word “living”, one which is used in the same way as that of the above passages:
“‘It may be that the LORD your God will hear all the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God (Elohim chay), and that he will rebuke him for the words the LORD your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.’… And Hezekiah prayed to the LORD: ‘LORD, the God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth. Give ear, LORD, and hear; open your eyes, LORD, and see; listen to the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God (Elohim chay). It is true, LORD, that the Assyrian kings have laid waste these nations and their lands. They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands. Now, LORD our God, deliver us from his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you alone, LORD, are God.’” 2 Kings 19:4, 15-19 - cf. Isaiah 37:4, 17
We, therefore, have the inspired authors using both the singular and plural forms to describe the true God as the Living One, or the One who lives forever. This is precisely what a Trinitarian expects to find, but which shouldn’t be the case if the unitarian position is true. After all, the use of the singular chay would denote the fact that Yahweh is a singular Being, whereas the plural use, chayyim, would further affirm that this same God is also multi-personal in nature.
Fifth Example
“But Joshua said to the people, ‘You are not able to serve the LORD, for he is a holy God (Elohim Qadoshim hu). He is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions (lapish'akem) or your sins.’” Joshua 24:19
The word translated as “Holy” is the plural adjective qadoshim (“Holy Ones”). The passage can therefore be rendered as, “Gods, the Holy Ones is he.” On the other hand, the hu (“is He”) is in the singular, and the words that follow are also singular in form. This again is what we would expect if Trinitarianism is true, since the use of singular and plural adjectives, verbs etc., simply affirm that God is singular in his Being, but multi-Personal in nature.
Sons of light does not mean sons of Jesus does it? Certainly not! Thank you father.
The truth Gospel John 14:6
God didn't reveal himself through Jesus but Jesus revealed about God. This is what bible says
"The words I say to you I do not speak from myself but the Father abiding in me DOES THE WORKS." John 14:10
Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God DID through him... Acts 2:22
No one has ever seen God at any time. Only the begotten God who is in the bossom of the father has revealed about him. No one has ever seen God at any time. Only the son who came from the God has revealed about him..the one who was sent speaks only God's words because God gives him abundant holy spirit. The words i speak are not my own words but the ones i have learnt from the father.jesus spoke god's words through holy spirit. This is what he says.jesus was led by holy spirit
Your own interpretation is not necessarily to be true.
@@sunkaraeliya2889 Yes, the Holy Spirit of His Father who told him what to say. The Father was saying what He wanted to say through the man Jesus.
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ has blessed you with wisdom and understanding. May Christ Jesus our Lord keep you and grant you the strength to wield the sword of truth in your battles against the falsehoods established by the illegitimate religious authorities of churchianity. The God of the Bible was not, is not and will never be a three-headed chimaera as is the false idol of counterfeit Christianity!
The Spirit will lead anyone into the truth if they just trust and obey the Lord.
Dear brother Kel,
I have a question: In one of your videos you talked about a book on church history and how the truth got corrupted.
I'm interested in the book but I can't find the video back.
Can you please help me out here?
God bless you
This one? ruclips.net/video/yLqm4KYqQlU/видео.html
Hi I have a Book that might interest you its author is SIR ISAAC NEWTON. ITS called, An Historical Account of Two Notable Corruptions of Scripture: in a Letter To A Friend. Its wrote by him but was only published after his natural death because if published before he would have been murdered.
@@TheTrinityDelusion thank you, that is the book!!
I also have another question (only if the Spirit leeds,you into doing it)
Can you someday do a video on the Kingdom to come on the new earth??
Most Christians believe they will go to heaven while Jesus is actually coming back with the Kingdom.
It's pretty sad for all those Christians in heaven without Jesus being there ;)
Thomas saw God through jesus
Yes to see Jesus was to see the Father.
Brother, Kel, tell me what Jesus means at John 1:51
"the word became flesh" .. this is simply YHWH's promise/plan (Debar or Word) given to Abraham (the beginning) being finally manifested in space, time, history (ie, become real, that is flesh)... This is just a reference to the coming of Messiah, the seed of Abraham, which was the promise (word), coming to fruition . making this a hellenestic pagan concept of a divine 'logos' heavenly being becoming a human man, is pure pagan thought and not the teaching of the hebraic scriptures. This is the philosophy of western greco-roman christianity which is just paganism which is what the trinity is based on.
What did you mean at 17:08 when you said when we see the dead flesh we are seeing the Father's Love. Is this penal substitutionary atonement? Explain what you meant please. In a way it makes more sense when the modalist explains that God became responsible and died in our place. But I am not in agreement with them. But it is hard to explain that God loved us so much that he sent someone else to die. That's why I'm asking what you meant by the statement.
Parents would better suffer themselves instead of letting their child to suffer. How must you love this rotten world to give your innocent child to suffer for evil people who don't deserve to live ?
Mr.E God sends Jesus out to die, because God can not die. Dead people are dead (no conciseness whatsoever, dead people can not think, or know, or feel ANYTHING Ecc 9:4-10). God can not die , and he wanted to show us how much he loved us, no greater love is this then to die for ones friends, but being immortal this was impossible. So he begot a son who could die (he is like God and has the title of God but he is not the supreme being, There can only be one ultimate supreme being in the universe and that is the Father. He is not the same being as the Father, these are 2 separate beings.
He then tasked his son with creating everything (and he did) and then he put into motion this plan of his with his son to show to the world just how much they love us.
God can make anything, for him to give us mansions and other luxuries costs him nothing, he would be giving out of his excess.No, God gave us his best, his son, the Father suffered watching the son on that cross. 3 days and nights later after being dead God raised him back to life.
It was God and Jesus's plan that we come to this sin filled earth to suffer, experience evil, and then die. Those that are dead have no consciousness whatsoever, the dead don't think/feel/know anything, this happened to Jesus when he was dead (this would be impossible if you all knowing and all powerful and everywhere at once, you cant know everything and know nothing at the same time).
God by sending his son to the cross demonstrated that he is not willing to put us through things that he is not willing to go through himself. He was tempted, he was a man of sorrows, he was mocked, he could heal others but could not heal himself (he was constantly sick), also Jesus was ugly. Jesus was killed by his very own creation. In this he demonstrated his love for us, not only that but he took all our sins, and will in time give us all his righteousness (justification, he who is justified can no longer sin), and will make us immortal, so now all of us will one day spend eternity with him and his Dad, some sooner, others later (he gives faith, faith determines who gets these gifts sooner or later, not us, faith is a gift we can not chose to believe, God chooses when he will give faith to a person, in the end he will give faith to all. Jesus always accomplishes his Father's will. The Father wills that all mankind be saved. Henceforth all men will be saved (I got tons of verses for the salvation of all if you are interested, just ask).
proof that hell is not forever, the reason it says so in most bibles is a mistranslation of the words olam/aion/aionios
www.hopebeyondhell.net/articles/further-study/eternity/
www.hopebeyondhell.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/UPDATE-Hope-Beyond-Hell-Chapter-1-AION1.pdf
www.iswasandwillbe.com/what-is-aionios-life/
makepeacewithjesus.org/7-the-septuagint-part-2
goodnewsgospel.info/Studies/EHC/The%20Ages.html
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d041101.htm
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d041201.htm
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d050101.htm
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2020/07/they-will-not-tolerate-sound-teaching.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2020/07/they-will-not-tolerate-sound-teaching_2.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/12/1-timothy-410-vs-christian-doctrine-of.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/12/1-timothy-410-vs-christian-doctrine-of_17.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-meaning-of-aion-in-new-testament.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-translational-inaccuracy-of-forever_11.html
www.biblestudentsnotebook.com/bsn852.pdf [the pages are out of order]
www.tentmaker.org/Quotes/churchfathersquotes.htm
ruclips.net/video/p77xXIZyP34/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/_kfKQJfT0C8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/JT4sc721DxE/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/rKltgdiC3WU/видео.html
What happens to us when we die (we cease to exist, dead people are not conscious whatsoever)
bible-truths.com/lake16-A.html
bible-truths.com/lake16-B.html
www.askelm.com/essentials/ess022a.htm
godsplanforall.com/free-online-book/part-iii/chapter-23-do-we-have-an-immortal-soul/
godskingdom.org/studies/tracts/how-death-affects-your-body-soul-and-spirit
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2015/05/pauls-gospel-and-death-denying.html
bible-truths.com/death.htm
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2014/06/life-after-death-part-1-nature-of-man.html
ruclips.net/video/xVoZ_UUUapw/видео.html
the Rich Man and Lazarus is a parable, here is an explanation of the parable
bible-truths.com/lazarus.html
godsplanforall.com/free-online-book/part-ii/chapter-19-the-rich-man-and-lazarus/
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-parable-of-rich-man-and-lazarus.html
godskingdom.org/studies/tracts/gods-marvelous-plan-for-creation-part-3-the-rich-man-and-lazarus
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d030602.htm
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-parable-of-rich-man-and-lazarus.html
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-parable-of-lazarus-and-rich-man.html
Why certain doctrines contradict the gospel (trinity, free will, eternal torment, going to heaven/hell immediately after you die instead of waiting for the resurrection, the immortality of the soul )
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/2015/05/pauls-gospel-and-death-denying.html
martinzender.com/ZWTF/ZWTF4.29.pdf
predestination, free will, and the problem of evil (we have no free will, God is in control of our wills, God created evil, however evil will not last forever, once evil has served its job it will be done away with, the good it produces will last forever)
ruclips.net/video/yR2BZP4d9mY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/YrHoDmT2Adg/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/x2rJHdahSGM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/7yM7dwyPCRw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/PaamZ8wojIU/видео.html
bible-truths.com/lake2.html
bible-truths.com/lake15.html
www.iswasandwillbe.com/is-evil-good/
www.iswasandwillbe.com/ecc_1_12_18/
www.iswasandwillbe.com/prophecy-of-isaiah-isa-451-7-i-make-peace-and-create-evil-i-the-lord-do-all-these-things/
godskingdom.org/studies/books/the-problem-of-evil/chapter-1-the-problem-with-free-will
godsplanforall.com/free-online-book/part-iii/chapter-25-why-god-allows-evil-and-suffering/
www.martinzender.com/ZWTF/ZWTF2.6.pdf
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d950101.htm
askelm.com/doctrine/d031002.htm
the eventual destiny of humanity, we all all become God's children and live with him forever, check out the byte show interviews and audios
www.askelm.com/abc/abc002.asp
www.askelm.com/abc/abc003.asp
www.askelm.com/essentials/ess033.htm
www.askelm.com/essentials/ess035.htm
www.askelm.com/essentials/ess036.htm
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d040101.htm
www.askelm.com/doctrine/d920501.pdf
other general links
The guys below teach the 2 gospels truth (I can be wrong about this, but this is what I currently believe)
www.theheraldofgodsgrace.org/authors_frames.htm
goodnewsgospel.info/
thathappyexpectation.blogspot.com/
www.concordant.org/
www.gracetruth.co.uk/
martinzender.com/
christianheretic.com/nochurch/
www.biblestudentsnotebook.com/
www.studyshelf.com/videos/
www.reddit.com/r/ConcordantBelievers/comments/l7v56t/some_concordant_resources/
The guys below mix the two gospel into one, but their is much truth here
bible-truths.com/
www.askelm.com/
saviourofall.org/
www.iswasandwillbe.com/
godskingdom.org/
godsplanforall.com/
tentmaker.org/
makepeacewithjesus.org/
Save the links to a notepad documents and bookmark them for further reading.
This is what I got out of this(with a bit of my own reasoning thrown in)...
1. If Jesus is the literal word, then he is God. The God that he was "with" would therefore be the Father. So it could be paraphrased as...
_"In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the Father, and Jesus was the Father"._
Trinity doctrine vehemently denies that the son and the Father are the same person, so such a reading doesn't work(unless you believe in oneness).
2. If "God" is a reference to the unified God made up of all three persons, then it could read as...
_"In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with the triune God and Jesus was the triune God."_
Jesus, as part of the triune God, cannot be with the triune God(he would have to be with the other two persons to constitute the triune God, although this is semantics). More importantly, Jesus, by himself, is not the triune God.
3. The typical trinitarian approach is to apply a different meaning to each use of "God", where we might get the following...
_"In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God(the Father), and Jesus was God(the Son)."_
The problem here is that there's simply no internal reason to read it in such a way. It's eisegesis. The Greek uses _theos_ in both instances without any kind of differentiation, so there's no logic in creating one.
The "word" in John 1:1 is _logos_ , which has a variety of meanings centered around aspects of planning, teaching and speaking. With that in mind, consider the following, if you please...
_"In the beginning was the Gospel, and the Gospel was with the Father and the Gospel was the Father."
Jesus' entire ministry was designed to express his Father's _logos_ (word). The Father's _logos_ is the Gospel, and He is the central subject of that same Gospel. It comes from Him and is for Him.
"The Gospel made flesh" is a most fitting and beautiful title for Jesus.
En arche en ho Logos:
In the beginning was the Word
kai ho Logos en pros ton theon:
and the Word was with/towards the God
kai Theos en ho Logos:
and God was the Word.
Notice the Father is Theon and the Word was theos.
@@jacobsenh7383 that only has to do with the case each noun is in. Theon is accusative (direct object) and Theos is nominative (subject)
I don't get this "light... was coming.." in my language it can be 2 possible translations. 1. In a sense that light was coming and shining into the world all the time from the beginning of creation. 2. Is that light light was coming but haven't come yet but was somewhere very close. I hope you understand what I meant. The second variant sounds not logical - how can light be coming if it already WAS in the world.
John was testifying about the true light coming into the world. This light began to shine once Jesus was baptized by John and received the Spirit of God. This light was then in the world - the things Jesus said and the things Jesus did.
@@TheTrinityDelusion yep, it's plausible.. I've thought this variant too but have no time to meditate on that longer to see if it fits all surrounding verses/tenses/ e.t.c..
Try telling this delusion to Abraham & Moses!
YHVH appeared to Abraham as 3 men!
All 3 are YHVH
Read Genesis 18 & 19
1 YHVH calls down fire from YHVH in Heaven
Or try Elijah or Isaiah They All know that God is 3 in 1.
It takes God to Know God in All His Fulness!
What does Paul teach, we are looking through a dark glass, but then we shall know Him as we are known!
God fully knows us!
Your first point is interesting but lacks evidence (I am a trinitarian btw so I'm by no means denying the trinity in saying this)
Abraham saw three men, yet only one of them he called Lord. In 18:22, two of the men turned and headed to Sodom, but Abraham was still standing before THE Lord. In 19:1, The TWO ANGELS came to Sodom, connecting back to 18:22 when the two men leave. I believe this wipes out the concept of two of the three visitors to Abraham being God in a 2nd and 3rd person of a trinity. And I don't recall the "Holy Spirit" (as in 3rd person of a trinity) taking on the body of a man to be revealed during a conversation. (And I'm not talking about the indwelling of God's Spirit in believers.)
.. What have we here..?
Zechariah 12:10- "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the SPIRIT OF GRACE and of supplications: and they shall LOOK UPON *ME* WHOM THEY HAVE PIERCED, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.".
God calling the One Who was pierced *"ME"..* ..BOOM!
You have a bad translation.
You were dupped by scholars with no brain which God could give them if they've asked. ruclips.net/video/X4HezBaSlSs/видео.html
@@TheTrinityDelusion ..Nope..i have the only GOOD translation.. maybe that's why you're confused....
@@doncooper512 What a surprising reply - your confirmation bias.
@@TheTrinityDelusion ..i know the content and character flaws with your translation and the others.. The "bias" is you and yours....
is the fathers name jesus also? like how fathers will name there son with the same name ? or like how we keep our same last name in the family?
No, not exactly. All God's children bear his name which is the essence of who and what He is, especially His love.
@@TheTrinityDelusion you know 1 thing I have really noticed is in my life of getting to know the truth and who I am and who God is and his son. is... when every I start to go back in to sin I get confused and when I stay in repentance and do my best to walk in the spirit and turn down sin I start to see clearly and God shows me answers .
@@jonathansch444 Yes. God gives the Spirit to those who obey him. He can't use a disobedient person or His name is blasphemed. It would make him look bad.
@@TheTrinityDelusion in 2co 8:9. jesus was rich and became poor. what is Paul talking about ? I'm not quite getting something
@@jonathansch444 Rich with what? Sometimes people resort to their imaginations which is a very bad idea. Notice the Corinthians were rich. How were they rich? In the same way, Jesus was rich. He had the Spirit and the blessings of heaven. So do the Corinthians.
I don't see how ANY interpretation of John 1 gets you to the Trinity. The term "God" has to mean multiple contradictory meanings in one paragraph.
Not only so the word order in Greek is.... "... was with GOD AND GOD was the word." It is absurd to suppose John would expect readers to define each instance of the word "God" in a radically different manner.
You also got into the word "PROS". The trinis I have heard argue the pre-incarnate Word has to be not merely God's Word, but a Person becauce you cannot be face to face with a thing that is not a person.. However there are many examples in the NT where people are described as PROS things that are not persons.
@@anissueofursincerity That claim is fabricated bunk. The word of the Lord came to be pros the prophets of old. Many examples in Scripture. Once the word had come to be pros the prophet, you can say the word was pros the prophet.
Yes. But it goes beyond that. People in the NT are refered to as being PROS things that are not persons, like qualit5ies and activities.
@@anissueofursincerity Yes but Trinitarians insist that with a stative verb like John 1:1b ("was") it necessarily means one person was with another. This is a fabrication but that's what they claim.
Have you ever done Jesus in the O.T .
Zechariah 12:10- "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: AND THEY SHALL LOOK UPON *ME* whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
That was the Lord God talking about Himself..
Zech 12:10 can also be translated differently. The OT also clearly says God is not a man and cannot die. All pieces of the puzzle have to fit.
@@bardowesselius4121 ..Yes..that's true..that's the reason that the *"Word was made flesh"* John 1:14.. 'God provided Himself a sacrifice'..Genesis 22:8....
@@doncooper512 Why would he , That not what is said in the O.T Malachi 2:5 and we have Rev 5:5 John 12:49 . and I think Malachi 3:4 was the commandment as we have 2 Corinthians 3:4 . Lost me ,
@@jeffstewart1668 ..Why would He..? Because Adam and all who ever came out of Adam are and were *dead..* The dead cannot redeem the living as the penalty for sin is death..Jesus Himself said "let the dead bury their dead"
God in the flesh was the ONLY one who could pay the death penalty for man....
Way off interpretation. Very mistaken. I hope no one listens.
Sadly Mark, there are many who fall for this lie. They are not willing to listen to the truth.
Listening
24:42 Lol. :)
LOL indeed this is false teaching and done through mocking the Word of GOD. Blasphemy!!
@@georgebauerschmidt5289 the bigger problem is taking the Bible Literally.
Yes I've checked that time stamp. In the beginning and up to that point, lots of iesegesis there. Providing assumptions that couldn't be found in the text. I couldn't stand to finish the whole video.
@@mr.e1220 as long as you understand that you have made that decision the same way Flat Earthers have made their decision to not accept the earth as a globe. No one seems to be able to get through to them and they continue to create new 'evidence' all the time that the earth is flat. It seems people will come up with their own narrative and often refuse to accept anything other than that concept no matter how convincing the truth may seem.
No one has ever seen God. It is GOD the only Son, who is close to the Father's heart, who has made him known."
So this in itself suffices as a response since John is not denying that God has ever been seen, but that the Father has never been seen.
With that said, we must now understand what John meant that the Father has never been seen.
A careful examination of the context shows that John is actually expounding upon the Greek Septuagint (LXX) of Exodus 33:7-20:
"And Moses took his TABERNACLE (ten skenen autou) and PITCHED IT without the camp, at a distance from the camp; and it was called THE TABERNACLE of Testimony (skene marturiou): and it came to pass that every one that sought the Lord went forth to THE TABERNACLE (ten skenen) which was without the camp. And whenever Moses went into THE TABERNACLE (ten skenen) without the camp, all the people stood every one watching by the doors OF HIS TENT (tes skenes autou); and when Moses departed, they took notice until he entered into THE TABERNACLE (ten skenen). And when Moses entered into THE TABERNACLE (ten skenen), THE PILLAR OF THE CLOUD DESCENDED, and stood at the door of THE TABERNACLE (tes skene), and God talked to Moses. And all the people SAW THE PILLAR OF THE CLOUD standing by the door of THE TABERNACLE (tes skenes), and all the people stood and worshipped every one at the door OF HIS TENT (tes skenes autou). And the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as if one should speak to his friend; and he retired into the camp: but his servant Joshua the son of Naue, a young man, departed not forth FROM THE TABERNACLE (ek tes skenes). And Moses said to the Lord, Lo! thou sayest to me, Lead on this people; but thou hast not shewed me whom thou wilt send with me, but thou hast said to me, I know thee above all, and thou hast favour with me. If then I have found favour in thy sight, reveal thyself to me, that I may evidently see thee; that I may find favour in thy sight, and that I may know that this great nation is thy people. And he says, I myself will go before thee, and give thee rest. And he says to him, If thou go not up with us thyself, bring me not up hence. And how shall it be surely known, that both I and this people have found favour with thee, except only if thou go with us? So both I and thy people shall be glorified beyond all the nations, as many as are upon the earth. And the Lord said to Moses, I will also do for thee this thing, which thou hast spoken; for thou hast found grace before me, and I know thee above all. And Moses says, Manifest thyself to me. And God said, I will pass by before thee WITH MY GLORY (te doxe mou), and I will call by my name, the Lord, before thee; and I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and will have pity on whom I will have pity. And God said, Thou shalt not be able to see my face; FOR NO MAN SHALL SEE MY FACE, and live. Exodus 33:7-20
Carefully note that the passage states that the pillar of cloud descended upon the Tent (skene) in full view of Israel. The cloud represented God's glory:
"Then the cloud covered THE TENT OF MEETING (ten skenen tou marturiou), AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD FILLED THE TABERNACLE (kai doxes kuriou eplesthe he skene). Moses could not enter the Tent of Meeting because the cloud had settled upon it, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD FILLED THE TABERNACLE (kai doxes kuriou eplesthe he skene). In all the travels of the Israelites, whenever the cloud lifted from above the tabernacle, they would set out; but if the cloud did not lift, they did not set out-until the day it lifted. So the cloud of the LORD was over the tabernacle by day, and fire was in the cloud by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel during all their travels." Exodus 40:34-38
Furthermore, in Exodus 33 Moses asked God to manifest himself, to show Moses his face. In other words, Moses wanted to see a full blown manifestation of God's glory as opposed to seeing a small veiled glimpse of it. God responds by saying that no one can see the fullness of his Divine glory, the visible revelation of his complete essence. We know that this what Moses meant since Exodus clearly says that God appeared to Moses and the latter saw him:
"Then He said to Moses, 'Come up to the LORD, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel, and you shall worship at a distance. Moses alone, however, shall come near to the LORD, but they shall not come near, nor shall the people come up with him.' ... Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, AND THEY SAW GOD OF ISRAEL; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; AND THEY SAW GOD, and they ate and drank. Now the LORD said to Moses, 'Come up to Me on the mountain and remain there, and I will give you the stone tablets with the law and the commandment which I have written for their instruction.' So Moses arose with Joshua his servant, and Moses went up to the mountain of God. But to the elders he said, 'Wait here for us until we return to you And behold, Aaron and Hur are with you; whoever has a legal matter, let him approach them.' Then Moses went up to the mountain, and the cloud covered the mountain. The glory of the LORD rested on Mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it for six days; and on the seventh day He called to Moses from the midst of the cloud. And to the eyes of the sons of Israel the appearance of the glory of the LORD was like a consuming fire on the mountain top. Moses entered the midst of the cloud as he went up to the mountain; and Moses was on the mountain forty days and forty nights." Exodus 24:1-2, 9-18
Therefore, Moses was asking to see the whole bare essential Divine glory visibly manifested before him, not just a small veiled portion of God's glorious majesty.
With this in mind, let us now turn to John's prologue:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe. He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God - children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. The Word became flesh AND PITCHED HIS TENT AMONG US (kai eskenosen en hemin). WE HAVE SEEN HIS GLORY (ten doxan autou), THE GLORY OF THE ONE AND ONLY (doxan hos monogenous), WHO CAME FROM THE FATHER, full of grace and truth. John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, 'This was he of whom I said, "He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me."' From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known."
The verb eskenosen comes from skenoo, where we get skene or tabernacle, the very word used in the Greek version of Exodus 33 and 40! It is clear that by using the terms skene and doxa, and by referencing Moses, John is presenting the Lord Jesus as the very glory of God who pitched his tent among us. In other words, Jesus' physical body is the permanent tabernacle for the fullness of God's glory to reside in. This means that when John says no one has seen God, John is referring to the fact that no one has seen God fully manifestating his glorious essence. Yet Jesus permanently houses God's glory and essence in the flesh. This is why Christ could speak of his physical body as God's tabernacle, and why the glory cloud descended upon him, just as it had descended upon the tabernacle:
"Six days later Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John his brother, and led them up on a high mountain by themselves. And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. Peter said to Jesus, 'Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three TABERNACLES (skenas) here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.' While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, 'This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!'" Matthew 17:1-5
"Jesus answered them, 'Destroy THIS TEMPLE, and in three days I will raise it up.' The Jews then said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?' But He was speaking of THE TEMPLE OF HIS BODY. So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken." John 2:19-22
Thus, John's prologue is essentially saying that the unseen, invisible God has visibly manifested his glory by appearing in human form. And that human form just so happens to be the human nature, the very physical body, of God's eternal Son.
No one has ever seen God except they have seen God, right?
No man hath seen God AT ANY TIME. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.
1 John 4:12
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 1:18
Didn’t read “…God the son hath made Him known” anywhere in that passage, but only “the only begotten son hath made him known.”
If it doesn't satisfy you, it must be corrupted. Nice cop out.
We know John 1:18 was corrupted. If it wasn't corrupted we would find discrepancies between important manuscripts. But we do.
@@TheTrinityDelusion your problem is the old testament saints who testify they have seen Gods face. Do you call them liers?
@@Dlee-eo5vv Who would that be?
@@TheTrinityDelusion
So you do not believe the bible is the inerrant and perfect Word of God?
So you do not believe God preserves knowledge?
@@worthyisthelamb6071 Which version of John 1:18 is uncorrupted? The KJV or the NIV?
This is your own interpretation not according to bible