The English word "only-begotten" comes from the Greek word "monogenes." The word "monogenes" itself functions like a compound word to the extent that the two parts, "mono"-"only", and "genes"-"kind or type," result in the sense of "only kind," "only one," or "only one-of-its-kind." In John 1:18 "monogenes theos" means "only one-of-a-kind God." The ideas of "one-and-only" and "only-unique" are both present in the word. From what I've read ("When Jesus Became God," by Rubinstein), Latin-speaking fathers at the Council of Nicea didn't always grasp the subtleties of the Greek language, and ended up misunderstanding what "monogenes" meant by confusing it with another Greek word. This other Greek word was the Greek verb "gennao," which means "to begat, to conceive," and carries the sense of a beginning. That idea started overriding the "one-of-a-kind" sense from "genes." Both words (and their related words) only have one difference, spelling-wise, between the "genn…" root ("begat") and the "gen…" root ("unique, only one"), resulting in confusion of the meaning. That's why the creeds of the 4th century express Jesus as the "only-begotten Son, begotten, not made." The "only-begotten" sense in Latin, understood as "only-conceived" led to misinterpretations by groups like the Arians and Jehovah's Witnesses, who interpret "only-begotten" as "only-made," or "only-created." In defense of Arius, his understanding of Jesus being created as a result of being "begotten," were more nuanced and sophisticated than the simpler JW interpretation of Jesus being a created being by Jehovah.
Shalom sir from philipines i believe your teach is true help me pray for the salvation of my parents she believe and accept yahuwshua yeshua as saviour she need to be baptized but how
@@LordXenuSaves "Without faith, it is impossible to please God." ~ Hebrews 11:6 "Now, little children, remain in Him, so that when He appears, we will have confidence and not draw back from Him in shame at His coming." ~ 1st John 2:28 "little children" - these are ones who are born from above, they are children of God "draw back from Him in shame" - this will be the behavior of unbelievers; this is what happens to those who do not "remain in Him," who do not abide in faith.
Wow that's a great topic for a follow up video! Thank you! : ) In short, I would say the Father, the Monogenes (only Son), and the Ruach are Echad. And belonging to Messiah, or being "in Christ," we participate in this koinonia, shalom with God in graceful fellowship in this unity.
@@ontherock yes I’ve watched the video. I usually read the Bible in German or Italian. Haven’t learned Greek or koine, but I know the letters and many words are familiar.
@@Nbovfm11 What specifically do you think is "out of place" in John? The word "only"? The word "begotten"? The word "God"? I don't know what your question is.
@@Nbovfm11 "God" is the earliest attested reading. "Son" seems to be a later scribal modification for clarification. Much has been written about this by Greek manuscript scholars. The main text witnesses are as follows: ο μονογενης θεος 𝔓75 ℵ1 33; Clpt ClexThd pt Orpt ¦ ο μονογενης υιος A C3 K Γ Δ Θ Ψ ƒ1.13 565. 579. 700. 892. 1241. 1424 𝔐 lat syc.h; Clpt ClexThd pt ¦ ει μη ο μονογενης υιος Ws it; Irlat pt (+ θεου Irlat pt) ¦ txt 𝔓66 ℵ✱ B C✱ L syp.hmg; Orpt Did | ⸆ ημιν Ws c syc
If the persons In the trinity is co equal than why the Holy Ghost and the son don’t know the hour? How can a god be ignorant??? The Bible says god is not a man. ( numbers 23:19) hosea 11:9 Samuel 15 29!!
@@myasesaleh4631 Happy to discuss this with you, but first, who are you? What do you believe about Yeshua and the Scriptures? Regarding the verses you cite, they are poetic expressions instructing that God does not lie (like men do) and God does not react foolishly out of agitation (like men do). Have you not read the context for those passages?
Always a blessing to be sharpened by you Rob, may the Lord continue to bless you and your household forever!
Absolutely wonderfully done. The understanding of The One has been lost in translation in many ways. Thank you for putting this together ❤
Thanks, Rob!!
The English word "only-begotten" comes from the Greek word "monogenes." The word "monogenes" itself functions like a compound word to the extent that the two parts, "mono"-"only", and "genes"-"kind or type," result in the sense of "only kind," "only one," or "only one-of-its-kind."
In John 1:18 "monogenes theos" means "only one-of-a-kind God." The ideas of "one-and-only" and "only-unique" are both present in the word. From what I've read ("When Jesus Became God," by Rubinstein), Latin-speaking fathers at the Council of Nicea didn't always grasp the subtleties of the Greek language, and ended up misunderstanding what "monogenes" meant by confusing it with another Greek word.
This other Greek word was the Greek verb "gennao," which means "to begat, to conceive," and carries the sense of a beginning. That idea started overriding the "one-of-a-kind" sense from "genes." Both words (and their related words) only have one difference, spelling-wise, between the "genn…" root ("begat") and the "gen…" root ("unique, only one"), resulting in confusion of the meaning.
That's why the creeds of the 4th century express Jesus as the "only-begotten Son, begotten, not made." The "only-begotten" sense in Latin, understood as "only-conceived" led to misinterpretations by groups like the Arians and Jehovah's Witnesses, who interpret "only-begotten" as "only-made," or "only-created." In defense of Arius, his understanding of Jesus being created as a result of being "begotten," were more nuanced and sophisticated than the simpler JW interpretation of Jesus being a created being by Jehovah.
Isaac was the "only" son of his first wife Sara/Sarai, so apart from the covenant it would still fit as the other verses correct?
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@@ontherock Thanks Rob.
Shalom sir from philipines i believe your teach is true help me pray for the salvation of my parents she believe and accept yahuwshua yeshua as saviour she need to be baptized but how
Hi Brando, please email me at robvanhoff at g mail
@@ontherock Its ok not to be baptized or beleive and soon you wont have to beleive just enjoy the show. 😎😎😎😎😎😎
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"Without faith, it is impossible to please God." ~ Hebrews 11:6
"Now, little children, remain in Him, so that when He appears, we will have confidence and not draw back from Him in shame at His coming." ~ 1st John 2:28
"little children" - these are ones who are born from above, they are children of God
"draw back from Him in shame" - this will be the behavior of unbelievers; this is what happens to those who do not "remain in Him," who do not abide in faith.
Question: could this be the same in the Sh'ma when it states Adonai Echad. Meaning HaShem is our Only One?
Wow that's a great topic for a follow up video! Thank you! : ) In short, I would say the Father, the Monogenes (only Son), and the Ruach are Echad. And belonging to Messiah, or being "in Christ," we participate in this koinonia, shalom with God in graceful fellowship in this unity.
I’ve thought you are a Unitarian, till
I’ve noticed a “out of place” verse: “only begotten God”. What’s going on there?
Did you watch this video?
Which translations do you trust?
Do you read Greek?
@@ontherock yes I’ve watched the video. I usually read the Bible in German or Italian.
Haven’t learned Greek or koine, but I know the letters and many words are familiar.
@@Nbovfm11 What specifically do you think is "out of place" in John? The word "only"? The word "begotten"? The word "God"? I don't know what your question is.
@@ontherock only begotten “god”. Shouldn’t it say “only begotten son”?
@@Nbovfm11 "God" is the earliest attested reading. "Son" seems to be a later scribal modification for clarification. Much has been written about this by Greek manuscript scholars. The main text witnesses are as follows:
ο μονογενης θεος 𝔓75 ℵ1 33; Clpt ClexThd pt Orpt ¦ ο μονογενης υιος A C3 K Γ Δ Θ Ψ ƒ1.13 565. 579. 700. 892. 1241. 1424 𝔐 lat syc.h; Clpt ClexThd pt ¦ ει μη ο μονογενης υιος Ws it; Irlat pt (+ θεου Irlat pt) ¦ txt 𝔓66 ℵ✱ B C✱ L syp.hmg; Orpt Did | ⸆ ημιν Ws c syc
Are you a trinitarian!!?
Yes, as Matthew wrote, "Baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit." (ch. 28)
If the persons In the trinity is co equal than why the Holy Ghost and the son don’t know the hour? How can a god be ignorant??? The Bible says god is not a man. ( numbers 23:19) hosea 11:9 Samuel 15 29!!
There has been multiple characters in the Bible that the Bible gives them divine status, why are they not part of the trinity
@@myasesaleh4631 Happy to discuss this with you, but first, who are you? What do you believe about Yeshua and the Scriptures?
Regarding the verses you cite, they are poetic expressions instructing that God does not lie (like men do) and God does not react foolishly out of agitation (like men do). Have you not read the context for those passages?