Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Testing IFV with Infantry
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2019
- The IFV is quite a weak unit and it struggles even against air threats. However, when IFV is promoted to elite it becomes surprisingly powerful and can even destroy an army or Kirovs.
The IFV is a light anti-air vehicle which can also play an important role as a support unit since it can be garrisoned with infantry units and change it's weapon depending on the unit inside.
Below is a list on what an IFV is turned to:
• GI, Conscript, and Spy: Machine gun
• Engineer: Repairs Vehicles
• Attack dog: none
• Flak trooper: Flak cannon
• Tesla trooper: Tesla weapon
• Desolator: Radiation Cannon
• Crazy Ivan and Terrorist: Kamikazi
• Guardian GI: Missile launcher
• Sniper: sniper rifle
• Tanya, Navy SEAL and Boris: Advanced machine gun
• Chrono Legionnaire: Chrono gun
• Initiate: Pyrokinesis
• Virus: Virus rifle
• Yuri: Psychic blast
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so I actually found out that putting a dog inside an IFV actually does something, it gives the IFV the ability to detect spies.
dracmeister nice one !
dracmeister really?
Oh i thought it's for accompanying the lonely driver lol.
it's kinda pointless though since you IFV Missiles are slower than insta-kill dog bite.
Atleast the IVF is more resiliant than a dog and has range
would be nice to protect your base, especially since IVF still have the same weapons and putting a dog inside it shouldnt be that expensiv
"Tip Press 'g' and the IFV will automatically repair nearby vehicles"
O..... M..... G.....
I have been playing this game for so many years and this tip would've helped me so much.. I so glad I now know this. Thank you TG.. You are the best..
You plan out your videos so much.. At the end with Boris you left one tank with less health to show that a promoted Boris in a Battle Fortress does more damage.. You are great.
Thanks mate, glad it helped! Many more videos are on the way. :)
Better yet, tell your Repair IFV's to escort someone "alt+Ctrl" and they'll follow + Repair any vehicle thats damaged in the convoy you've just made. Helps Prism-tank-Assaults much moire easier.
adding humor to red alert testing units just makes all much better
cyberneticdex69 thanks :)
Press G and the IFV will automatically repair nearby vehicles. Why did it take me 20 years to learn this?
The Guardian GI IFV is better against vehicles, but worse against infantry than the default IFV configuration. That includes Rocketeers.
Dogo has entered IFV
Should give IFV huge metal jaws and it runs over infantry on its own
Yuri prime beam can hurt tanks whilst clone only hurts infantry. That's why it spams so quick
Kadir Hizarci good to know !
So, I've discovered why Flak Troopers can't fire anti-air while in an IFV.
I've been modifying the rulesmd.ini file to make some fun new gameplay elements, one of those being able to garrison Guardian GIs, Tesla Troopers, and Flak Troopers. Unlike the Guardian GI, whose secondary weapon is "MissileLauncher" (which can hit both ground and air targets), Flak Troopers have a separate weapon entirely for both their air and ground attacks. You can only have one weapon type when garrisoned in something, which means they defaulted with the ground flak gun
AvantelWings great info, thanks!
So pretty much with the exception of Engineers, Snipers (or Virus) and maybe SEALs (because of the mobility), Elite IFVs are better off left without infantry inside.
He protecc
He atacc
But most importantly:
Our base is under attack!
Didn't see that coming lol
"unit lost"
2:50 I want to play! (rejected) okay...
HAHAHAHA
I love this stuff because this is what i used to do, testing every unit with each over. keep doing what you do
Liam Clayton thanks mate
11:00 That's because the troops inside the Battle Fort are the ones doing the actual firing.
The IFV however changes its weapon based on the infantry inside it. Promotion of the passenger does not change its weapon.
Weapons only change via promotion. Or some other things that might be too hard to explain...
I'd say its a scripting bug that negates promotion.
@@DaxMarko It has nothing to do with scritping.
There's simply Gunner=yes for the IFV (which allows a vehicle to change weapons) and OpenTopped=yes (which allows occupants of a vehicle (maybe also buildings, I never tested) to fire their weapons).
The weapons of a Gunner=yes vehicle have all to be pre-stated, and a special index for each infantry tells the game which weapon, among the ones the Gunner vehicle has defined, is to be picked for which infantry.
A promotion does not change the Gunner-weapon number of an InfantryType unless said promotion actively changes the InfantryType itself. Do note tho that the "change unit type on promotion" is recent Ares-only logic.
OpenTopped works differently. There is an index for each infantry relevant to the OpenTopped-logic, and it decides which weapon an infantry should use while inside a transport they can shoot out of. The choice is always between Primary and Secondary. And the Primary and Secondary DO change after promotion, if ElitePrimary and EliteSecondary are defined.
It's possible to code the weapons and unit so it fires two weapons: one only when outside of transports, the other only while inside one (stuff like "can only fire in transports" works by creating a harmless dummy weapon for a Primary).
However, the OpenTopped vehicle does not lose its original weapon.
This has nothing to do with scripting. These are two different logics with a few similarities.
How come? What you just explained sounds like inner code of these units. But then, you seem to know better, so I'm probably just talking out of my ass.
So, IFVs were designed to have own gun according to passenger, but doesn't take in passenger's ranking. I think they could have included few same copies of a gun with different stats, to change according to rank of passenger, so that it matches it. I wouldn't say its a "bug", but a missing feature, either not added for some reason or on purpose of making IFV a lesser vehicle.
And what you say, OpenTopped is possibly used for buildings and bunkers. I'd assume Battle Fortress uses similar, just altered, since guardian GIs can enter it.
@@DaxMarko "you seem to know better, so I'm probably just talking out of my ass."
The only reason I know better is because I once went through the codes and read up on them on www.modenc.renegadeprojects.com
If you or the average player did so as well, then you'd know better too ;)
"IFVs were designed to have own gun according to passenger, but doesn't take in passenger's ranking."
Because WW never made logic account for the InfantryType's promotion, simple as that.
I do agree tho they should've done that.
"OpenTopped is possibly used for buildings and bunkers."
OpenTopped is, AFAIK, only used for vehicles with an "open top" (hence the name).
According to its ModEnc page (www.modenc.renegadeprojects.com/OpenTopped), OpenTopped is only valid for Vehicles and Aircraft.
I haven't tested this myself, tho. For all I know it works for BuildingTypes as well.
Do note that the Garrison and OpenTopped logic are two different things.
Long story short:
Every infantry has its own weapon to fire out of buildings with in YR. Those buildings would need to be garrisonable and allow infantry to fire out of them (no idea why they did that last one. You could say "so infantry inside BioReactors don't fire", but that is part of another logic. Again).
In RA2, however, each garrisonable building had two weapons, where one is used for the garrisoned GI and the other for the garrisoned Conscript.
Insanely useful videos. Huge thanks.
You're welcome my friend. Thank you too.
if you put a cow in your ifv, it will use prism cannon
Allied comander : They called me a mad man
Westwood admitted it was supposed to be an intentional joke lol
@Something Cute i never try that before
Milk detection
I like the mummy that's usually in the bottom right corner.
I've been waiting SO long for this video! I learned more than I thought I would, and learned some bullshit things about the relationship between the IFV and the Infantry that garrison it.
Under most circumstances, this universally useful unit is a perfect example of how an Allied player needs to play. Some infantry are much better alone compared to their IFV variant, and there are some occasions where the IFV is an Allied version of another vehicle, like the Tesla Tank. The Allied player needs to find an excellent combo the player likes and use the IFV's ridiculous speed and micromanagement to outplay their opponent to have an upper hand.
Side-note, you missed Chrono Commandos (Spy inside an Allied Battle Lab), but it's just a Navy SEAL, so never mind. You also missed Psy Commandos (Spy inside a Yuri Battle Lab), but I think that's just another variety of a Suicide IFV, so again, never mind.
These videos are always entertaining to watch.
Allied dogs are so clever they can control IFV. Or IFV has such simple controls that even a dog can control it...
There is a driver with the dog...
I thought there will battle fortress full with elite guardian gi at the end clip but ok its entertaining tho
in every video i watch, I hear
kirov reporting far away.
U missed something! What happend if president or cow is in the ifv? U have to record it and show us!
DjMicro I have something in mind !
@@tsiripas what is it
@@HalalKaibaLegacy ITS A PRISM CANNON
No tanks were harmed in the making of this film.
Thanks for the replies. I am new to your channel so was not sure if you answered it before.
dat ending so that is why i keep hearing that dreaded sound "kirov reporting"
LMAO @ that ending. :)
Nice content
elite tesla trooper in elite IFV is kinda tiny prisma tank
Also regular IFV does much more dmg to buildings than GGI one
When the IFV talks while blowing up the tanks and it suddenly stops talking in the middle, I chuckled a bit, ngl
lol, poor mans Tesla Tank :D
Best one yet
Hi, do you play this game online?
4:20 Weep!
And all those random kirovs inside my right ear.
Do you play this game online ?
rip!
Yes and no. Its an old game that was bought on retail CDs, but you can probably find free downloadable version, like on oldpcgames .net
C&Cnet is used to play online. I recommend installing some mods, like Mental Omega, because it has most activate playerbase. (But also because the mod is amazing and very faithful to RA universe)
@@DaxMarko , but you don't stop watching ra2
But of course, why wouldn't I watch. Most of mechanics still apply to the mod, so videos are very useful. Hell, I discover a lot of things I never knew about.
IFV's machine spirit reigns supreme.
The IFV of RA2 reasemble the M8 greyhound armoured car and the german Marder 1 but armed with a SAM missile and many.
Also want to remmeber that brainwashed cowboys and technicians could enter the ifv
So veterancy of infantry doesn't matter but what if the infantry inside has picked up firepower upgrade crate?
I guess nothing will change. But it should change in case of Battle Fortress
The IFV itself must get firepower crate, not the infantry inside it.
The only reason I watch the videos is for the end :D
that satisfy me over tanya, boris and navy seals have assault rifles as an advanced machine guns.
Hey, can you do a test video to see which units destroy ore the fastest?
It's a very dirty trick for attacking the enemy indirectly, and I want to know the most efficient way to pull it off!
I'll check it. ^^
@@tsiripas The winner is probably going to be whatever tank has the highest attack speed. (Among the tanks with cannons that damage ore, that is.)
Also, did you know that electricity attacks can destroy trees, but not ore? It's pretty nice to know that my frustration over 'unmineable' ore in some campaigns/maps was actually solvable all along.
@@tsiripas I think 2 shells from a standard tank will get rid of a tile filled with ore. If there already isn't much ore in that single tile, then maybe 1 shot will do the trick. After that, it depends on attack rate, and if the unit fires two shots or not. The ultimate question is, which units can destroy ore, and which units can't?
Hilarious to see Guardian GI can nerf a Veteran IFV despite the fact a Veteran Guardian GI is more powerful then Veteran IFV.
Hey, do you play this game online?
@@KirovReporting
I can't, ping is too high.
@@m-w-y7325 , do you have facebook?
@@KirovReporting Yes I do
@@m-w-y7325 , page me there please:
facebook.com/zhasulan.aitbaev
I am deeply disappointed you did not show the mass destructive powers of the IVF + Cow combination.
I'm not kidding, this is actually in the game.
ImaginaryNumb3r yes but how can you actually test it? Mind controlled units can’t enter and I am not using any editor.
@@tsiripas Yuri superweapon can force control cow, right?
3:21 homemade tesla tank
3:16 Yes Komrade x3.
ty for tip
attack dogs won't just get along without any weapons. although, he's just using fangs to keep out intruders.
Is there a way to ALWAYS show the health bar of units?? (Infantry, Tanks and Buildings)
Drew Enriquez I doubt it
1:26 oh cmon let him finish the job man.
so with the snipers do they have a "magazine" when not in an IFV? I ask because for the non-veteran ones they seemed to have to "insert fresh magazine" or something after 5 shots and inside the IFV that didn't seem to happen and so their fire rate stayed consistent.
if that is the case I'm sure the veterans still have that 5 shot capacity, we just didn't get to see it in the demonstration because their DPS was much higher and could kill all the targets before they needed to have a long reload cycle
hey, you missed to test the IFV for the building with promoted LVIII, it is very useful.
Hey, this is a testing with infantry. There's a different video with the IFV.
@@tsiripas Any video talking about the IFV to tackle with the buildings?
4:45 destination!??
11:00 Thanks for the tip I always wondered about that. Two questions: So the damage is only increased if the IFV is promoted and it doesn't matter about what rank the infantry you put in (ex. non ranked)??
Also if the battle fortress is elite status but the Guardian rocket infantry in it are not ranked does that only increase the machine gun or is it all considered elite? TY
You are right about both.
It doesn't matter what you load in an IFV. All that it matters is the promotion of IFV itself.
But the Battle fortress works differently. When a battle fortress is in elite status it only increases it's machine gun and not the units inside. The units inside Battle Fortress should have taken the promotions instead because they make the kills but it's supposed to be a bug.
By the way, there's a video "comparing anti-air units #2" and it shows exactly that thing with the battle fortress.
@@tsiripas Elite Battle Fortresses also gain automatic health regeneration, and maybe a few other little bonus. It's still very useful to have a veteran BF.
@@Rhino1004 yes definitely it's just that it doesn't improve the units inside where most players are confused.
Yo, do you play this game online?
elite psi commando able to mind control very long range, better than elite yuri prime
"Abort!, Abort!"
Parking an elite ranked Sniper IFV outside of an enemy base is the most satisfyingly sound ever.
Rocketeer IFV's have at least visually the same weapon. You mind-control a few when you deploy a Psychic Beacon in New York as the Sovjets in the vanilla campaign. It's completely at the end though, when you mind-control all Allied forces.
8:30 I hate it when the game is malfunctioning like that; there are units queued to do some actions (Move here, Attack this, Move there, etc), and not only they're stuck, but if they're part of a group of units, no new commands can be queued since "can't issue a Waypoint to a different group" (can't remember the exact warning).
Now do same video, but with Battle Fortress. Also, you forgot about Tank Bunkers, maybe combo with them would show some promise as well.
I think there was a Tank Bunker test video a while ago. Vehicles are stronger in it.
@@TheValentineEnemy There was a Tank Bunker video, but it didn't feature the large variety of IFVs. I don't think it's needed, though; it's thoroughly proven in the Tank Bunker video that all vehicles gain a firepower boost from sitting inside one, and we can guesstimate how much more damage each individual IFV would deal inside a Tank Bunker compared to outside. I AM curious on if the Tank Bunker affects the Chrono Legionnaire IFV's disappearing rate. Considering not even a few veterancy bars affected it, I doubt the Tank Bunker will, but we might be surprised.
You need to explain how it changes when it get Firepower chest
4:57 - We've *BOOM*
That makes me laugh
Please do some battlefortress test.
I'll try!
Question: If you have a Guardian GI and an IFV both shooting at a vehicle/aircraft, is that more or less effective than putting the Guardian GI inside the IFV? I guess this applies to all the infantry; is it always worth it to garrison your infantry?
the video clearly showed that it's not always worth it to garrison infantry in the IFV...
At @1:49,WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!
6:16 commence intense headbanging!
goooooooodddddddddd bro :* Like Like Like
1:50 "Kirov..."
Flak troopers in an IFV should be able to attack air units, it's dumb that they can't.
Now i know, that Initiate uses Pyrokinesis...
here one a mind control ifv plus crazy ivan inside crate spychic blast and radiation explotion i tried it in the polar storm hope it work for you
Put president inside ifv is amazing
play britian, put sniper into ifv and make it to elite and excel the sniper. make 3 elite ifv, they DESTROY anything.
hit and run. with cronosphere bruh
Test Battle Fortress
😂😂😂
Bro
I came from the ending
xD
tg
Its the truth dear 😁
test the battle fortress.
9:12 flak trooper inside battle fortress can attack air unit. Can u test it and give comparison with some anti-air unit ?
Ah that would lead to another Anti-Air testing video, I already have like 3 of those.
In conclusion, probably the only useful IFV config would be Sniper for better range and much faster attacking. Otherwise just dont put anything inside it, specially if IFV is Elite.
So dumb how Flak Trooper IFV cant attack air.
scholar
ifv with gi vs ifv with tesla against buildings?
the IFV at 9:02 be like: no i cant
4:46
Destination....
@tgSacred Can you put a download link of this map on this video? Please
"Need a conversion? "Watch my--"
"IFV ready! Made f--"
Note to self: don't put Ivans to IFVs
They're actually useful, try having Ivan in IFV and he got a bomb attached to him while inside 🙂
The infantry rank you put inside IFV will make different result too, i.e: Elite guardian GI will have more missile
Boris IFV
9:19 tiny mistake but still u pure 1 star in that ifv instead of 3
So a generic IFV is far better than a Guardian IFV...
Seal IFV destroy tanks faster than veteran Seal IFV.
What a...?
1:51 oh no
Ifv and tesla trooper = tesla tank
5:25
2:25 IFV with rockeman more powerful than IFV and even roketman more powerfull hmm. dont know this.
Map name? pls :)
Oasis of Doom [2-6]
@@tsiripas thanks a lot. Your videos are awsome!!
@@kristijanbecelic1693 Thanks :D
First ^^
first
this
By far the most annoying repetitive sound is a SEAL trying to kill a tank. AI want me to kill myself sometimes.
made for pffffff