Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Testing Chaos Drones
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The long awaited Chaos Drone is finally here! The outcome of most battles between infected units and the regular ones were quite unique and unpredictable.
I have to say a big thanks to a new user "Tutankhamun" for volunteering in helping out and creating the perfect scenario to make this test possible.
So basically, what is a Chaos Drone?
Chaos Drone is a unit available only to Yuri. It costs 1000 resources but if used correctly it can worth the investment. Despite being a light vehicle in terms of survivability, the Chaos Drone is a fast moving vehicle and speed is very crucial for it to work effectively. It can literally cause "chaos" if it manages to penetrate into a group of vehicles even for a few seconds.
Once units are affected they start attacking any unit nearby. The infected units deal the same damage but attack much faster. As long as the Chaos Drone stays close to the infected units and keeps spreading the gas the units will be permanently in "berserk" mode. They will also never attack the Chaos Drone itself. If the Chaos Drone is destroyed or stops spreading the gas, the infection lasts for a few seconds and the unit will return to it's normal mode after that.
Chaos Drone can't affect your own units, thus making this test was a bit more complicated and harder to complete. The variations along with the power ups and promotions are endless thus I included only the most interesting ones.
Come to think, there are many ways to power up your units that you may not have thought of. As it seems, the complete scenario would be an Elite Unit with a power-up Crate in a Tank Bunker while being infected by Chaos Drone. Can you imagine it?!
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By far the most effective use is annoying your opponent with THAT SOUND.
I have always avoided using Chaos Drones for precisely this reason. The sound they make is incredibly annoying.
Me: Dad, the alarm didn’t wake me up this morning.
Dad:
Me:*never be late for school anymore*
@@groaningmole4338 imma say one thing. I use it when the only thing there is (is) an enemy barracks and I do surround sound and keep doing it.
Berserk MCV:
"Get outta the way I gotta build, damnit!!"
just the fact that someone makes videos about this game in late 2019, makes me cry of joy
and a epic intro
4:47 "They will run in fear" *as he runs away in fear*
Me: 2020's not too bad. We're all still alive.
April: 2:30
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Yes sir
Chaos Drones are one of the weirdest units in the game.
It's advertised as a Chaos Spreading disruption unit, meant to charge in and prevent focus fire, but it's held back by major issues:
- Low Armor
- Not fast enough
- Inconsistent and doesn't work on a ton of units.
- Expensive
The Berserk effect, while it CAN cause enemy units to blow themselves up, can also benefit the enemy; since berserk units will shoot at anything, Friend or foe; leading to scenarios where you gas an enemy, and the enemy berserks and attacks the Chaos Drone, making the entire use fruitless. The only practical use is the kamikaze them in and gas everything in sight. And with a cost of 1000$ a pop, that's not a practical investment 95% of the time.
"Inconsistent": berserk enemies prioritize attacking friendlies that do not have a specific exception set. They only attack the Chaos Drone if no one else is available.
"Doesn't work on a ton of units": immunity to berserk is toggled by the same option as immunity to mind control. Hence why Engineers can berserk despite being unarmed and why dogs cannot berserk despite not being robotic.
@@amitakartok Okay, but if that is the case; why would you ever run a Chaos Drone?
If they effect the same units, cost more then a Yuri clone; and offer a similar effect, just minus you gaining control of the unit entirely; why wouldn't you just make Yuri clones and mind control them? This forces players to target the Yuri clones, or destroy their own army.
Compare that to a Chaos Drone, who 90% of the time will die before they can even get in range due to their crap armor. Any scenario where the Chaos Drone might be useful; a Master Mind or Yuri Clone would be more viable, the double Fire Speed is a nice touch, and okay, the fact that they focus fire allies and neutrals over enemies is also something I never noticed, so that is interesting.
I just feel that for the price they ask for; Chaos Drones offer the same effect as most of Yuri's armor, with none of the benefits. After all, Mind controlled infantry can be sent into Bio Reactors for Power, and mind controlled vehicles can be crushed for free money. Berserked Vehicles can do damage, but they will also shoot at you if anything else isn't in range. Unless I'm missing something, I just don't see the point.
@@Kohchu yeah, i've played RA2 a few times, but in the end never managed to do anything with that unit, too bad.
Mental Omega 2.0 partially fixed that by making the Chaos Drone... er, the Chaos Quad release gas when it's destroyed.
I really like the quality of your video, sometimes put some meme and gags in it make it so much enjoyable keep up the gud work m8
IFV: "I shoot aircrafts for living..."
Also IFV when infected by Chaos Drone and ordered to guard in tank bunkers: *"Well now I'm not doing it..."*
Some neat facts about the Chaos Drone:
1. The berserk behavior is repurposed from an old cut feature from Tiberian Sun for Cyborgs. Originally in Tiberian Sun, when Cyborgs would go down into the permanent prone damage state, they'd "go berserk." It was cut due to time constraints. IIRC there is still ways to make it work in Tiberian Sun but it's buggy and only works for units that are Cyborg=true (which can only be on infantry). In RA2, even vanilla RA2 with no YR, infantry with Cyborg=yes that go down into the permanent damage stage can correctly go berserk without any bugs. This feature never actually gets used in RA2 tho.
2. Oddly enough the timing on the berserk effect isn't hardcoded, the damage value of the weapon is used for how long the effect lasts on units and IIRC (though i am not 100% certain on this, so correct me if im wrong) armor values _actually can_ affect that and reduce the time a unit is affected. Using ARES you can also make any unit you want immune to it or have any damage reduction to it you want without making them immune to other mind control effects. In the base game the only way to make a unit immune to Chaos Drones is using ImmuneToPsionics=yes, which also makes that unit unable to be mind controlled.
3. Even further, another thing you think would be hardcoded that is not, is the BerserkFriendly flag. This is what makes units going berserk not attack the Chaos Drone, and this flag can be applied to other units as well. What _is_ hardcoded is that friendly units will always not be affected.
4. Any weapon can apply this berserk effect as long as the Warhead has Psychedelic=true.
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Everyone after watching this video: "I'm going to rush enemy base with Chaos Drones only!"
My conclusions are that "infected units" have their firepower increased by 100% (approximately).
Nice video!
"Look! It's raining planes!"
The chaos drone was to much micromanagement and it sounded very annoying
Apocalypse tank on Chaos Drone gas: "I can do anything."
Outro IFV on Chaos Drone gas: "Catch me if you can!"
Chrono Legineers on Chaos Drone gas: "The TRUE NEO CHAOS!"
The Chaos Drone should've been called the Noise Drone
1:55 when you win the race but want the second place also.
Jack Shroom :D
Chaos drones are nice but that pumping sound effects can get old really fast.
It gets on your nerves too.
Poor tg probably had his ears ringing and nightmares...
It has been removed for the next video.
Don't worry, they never really last long.
This sound ate my brain!
Schwoom schwoom schwoom
Chrono legionaries? More like Chrono Gladiators!
Never exis...gone
I always thought they were probably actually good but I didn't know how to use them. Turns out they really are useless. Thanks for the video, love your content
Could be interesting if you iron curtain them somehow
@@adonis1168 If you cross factions.... you could do a drone bomb in a flak track and aim for elite units if you can get close enough
Chaos Drone: Am I a joke to you?
Affected Magnetron is kinda like a child, he'll just play with the units nearby :P
the only advantage of the unit is that the opponent can no longer control their units which may open up chances for your other units. Thing is most of Yuri's units are not fast or durable enough to exploit an opening.
Dam i didnt know that infected units shoot faster! Thanks for letting me know, great job!
Hi I'm tg and welcome to my 20 minute Chaos Drone ASMR video lmao
Also I guess this is possibly where the idea for the Kane's Wrath Redeemer's Rage Generator came from but that was implemented much better I'd say.
In the end
Psychotic Apocalypse: You Prism Tank - you live to tell the story, no one drinks my Kvas..
4:05
Darth Sidious himself
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I always feel like Chaos Drones are useless
4:25
It costed 200.000 dollars to fire this weapon for twelve seconds
That DAMN SOUND! MAKE IT STOP!
I never realised the Chaos Drone caused units to attack faster. I only ever realised that it caused chaos when it sneaks into my base and turns my units against me.
The word of the day is *CHWOOF*
After all this time, finally i knew now how to use chaos drone 🤣🤣
now imagine a bunch of prism tanks and a chaos drone among them get chronosphered in your base.
Eyes Jade i tested that against AI and they attacked each other lmao
@@RR-jk5zj Haha I forgot that they attack anything close even themselves. Too bad XD
**The Chaos Drone looks at Beserk legionnares with confusion**
Your videos will probably make me play the game again. :)
5:40 Chrono Legion Party :V
I've heard of your channel before but this is the first time I watch most of a video of yours and it seems to be good source about this game, keep it up bro👌
Thanks mate!
May I ask from where you heard about my channel?
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@@tsiripas yup
It seems to be able to infect defense structures, so you could just send it to them. Like, if the opponent is France, the drone can wreak havoc because it just outruns Grand Cannon shells and gets inside its minimum range.
5:33 So... if I need veteran units, I can just battle royal them. The survival of the fittest, got it.
The outro gag - I suppose that IFV / Gatling Tank should be inside Tank Bunker before releasing the Chaos Drone.
The Bunker protects the tanks from being chaosed.
@@legolegs87 Correct
Then, the IFV or Gatling Tank can't be tested.
20:57 IFV: *Fu-* *this shit, I'm out.*
elite apoc with chaos is insanity
I want to see V3 rockets rate of fire with this
Forgot about it :(
I will see if I can add it on the navals video.
*S E N D I N G A I R M A I L . . .*
The AI always seemed to be able to use them better than I ever could... which isn't saying much since I never used them and they get destroyed very quickly when the AI uses them.
Although they did once manage to pull it off in the Yuri Resurgence Campaign by infecting some Magnetrons... so they just kept picking each other up until I got my Gattling Tanks in to smash the Drone once one of the Magnetrons ended up out of range and I could pick up the Drone.
Sound of the chaos drone is annoying and driving me insane. Is that how it really works?
Yes.
XD
Its chaotic property goes beyond the fourth wall.
So it basically ups the attack speed at the cost of randomized targeting, but has no effect on robots and certain infantry.
You can exploit this in different ways
well, if you can mind control it you can chaos drone it
Can't remember this unit at all. Looks like no one ever used it back then.
Only hard ai/campaign ai ever used em.
Imagine an Elite Aegis Cruiser with the improved rate of fire by the chaos :0
Can you infect naval units?
@@CaveyMoth Yes, working on a video for that.
@@tsiripas That's awesome! Thanks
@@tsiripas nice!!
Wait, but you won't be able to tell it to attack, so much fire rate will be lost
7:32 Magnetron: i'm the star show now
It would've been a better unit if the red infected guys prioritised non infected then killed each other afterwards. People might actually use the tank.
I spent a while trying to find a use for the tank, then gave up.
Imagine the five elite boris battle fortress +Chaos drone
What happens when you put it next to a war factory and build a kirov or UFO, will they be affected by the drone and immediately bomb the factory that just produced them?
Don't know yet But i want to try it.
Yes please
I did not even know that chaos drones are used for your units, not the enermies' ....
TheDemonAngel28 it can’t affect your units, it’s meant for the enemies. The chaos in the video is neutral.
@@tsiripas interesting, ty for the response
Please showcase the naval units as well!
If this works, imagine aegis cruiser with elite and fp crate..
I will check that out too,.
It should work but still you can't target thus you can't see Aegis attacking on full speed.
The finnicky bit about the Aegis Cruiser is that the missile launchers have to face a certain minimum angle for it launch the missile salvo. You can see an Aegis Cruiser attack at full speed when it is turning to face a 90 degree angle towards the target. And even then, that's only half of the salvo.
6:10 how to create a free for all
7:18
MCV: _ANGERY_
ANGERY💢WERY ANGERY!!
Will the chaos drone affect naval unites? Aegis cruise will be overpowered!
17:07, "commencing shock therapy"
But chaos drone can be infected chop by terror drone
The only tank cannot be infected by chaos drone is robot tank
so chaos drones are like like steampacks?
"Spealer"
I LOST IT XD
Is it possible to chronosphere deployed chaos drones?
Can you infect kirovs though, when they fly out of the factory?
Puffinsky could probably affect them but by the time they are in the air the effects would probably wear of
Interesting idea.
IFV at the end were like "can't touch me, i'm too fast"
*S E A L P E R*
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Outstanding video man I love it!
....Does anyone know how to edit the names of units? I want to rename chaos drones to BTS tour bus.
lol
7:47 AYYU SALAV..... i cried😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂
Another great video :) ... great work
Does the chaos drone work against navel units? A gassed 3 stripe Aegis would be hilarious to watch
It would fire a laser line of rockets
It should work but still you can't target thus you can't see Aegis attacking on full speed.
When I played this game, I tested every little thing I could think of. I never liked the idea of not utilising something.
Having said that, I barely ever made chaos drones. I saw potential, but never ever really fiddled about with them.
Basically figured out the mind control immunity rules apply, and the attack speed benefit.
I noticed the mind drone is civilian (white), in't that because the psychotic unit attack the drone too? - Perhaps the effect is to increaes attack speed, and temp swap allegiance to civilian?
Never bothered testing this that much, so I never thought to try the non attacking units like the spy and engineer, nor tried suicide to see if attack power was heightened.
Tested how garrisoned battle-fortesses might have been effected differently?
Would have loved to see an enraged boomer submarine ( get close to shore and fire to raise him into field of fire) though the effect would have been the same as other unit. maybe v3 too?
All in all another fantastic video :)
The Chaos Drone in the video is a "neutral". It doesn't belong to me that's why it affects my own units.
Unfortunately, the units inside the Battle Fortress don't attack so there was nothing to show. :/
Thanks!
How does gassed president IFV compare to prism tanks and mayan Tower? Also, do chaos drones affect chronosphered landed kirovs or harriers?
9:17 my face exactly
I just know how this thing work today 😅
Thank you for the great video!
Endurance Aura
CHOOF-CHOOF-CHOOF!
20:55 infected fully ranked and upgraded IFV-Tank bunker fail.
At the final one you should put the Elite IFV in the battle bunker THEN put the chaos drone there
Sewar Mahmoud I haven’t control over the chaos drone. Plus, chaos can’t affect units inside the bunker.
@@tsiripas Have you tried it without speed upgrade?
Sewar Mahmoud don’t really remember
So, I can use these Chaos Drones as like "chaotic" support units rather than putting them off like meth sprayers. Man, I could have used these to fuck up an entire horde of advancing Kirovs by placing the Gats inside walls so they wouldn't put me to risk.
Unfortunately, Chaos Gas doesn't affect your own units.
Does it work on an Aegis Cruiser?
4:04 Fucking lighting not tesla anymore
What if the chaosdrone is near a war factory when a kirov comes out? Does it infect the kirov?
Nope
I dont even know that this drone is existed
Huh... Magnetron into Chaos Drone...
4:25 Gatlingzooka?
2:30 it's like popping a bubble wrap
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How sad when high resolution option mean more smaller object. :(
Yeahh..it's why I keep an old 768p HDTV around.
That Tf2 meme tho
*CHoooooFFF!* *CHoooooFFF!* *CHoooooFFF!* *CHoooooFFF!*
Ahh for the end you could garisson it first and then infect it just in case. Cool stuff
It's not easy to Garrison a unit. It's not working they instantly leave.
@@tsiripas Yeah i figured
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what about water units?
17:26 wow what a remix :D
tesla troopers the best part
berserk mode enabled!
Prism tank has very good beats.
Would be interesting to see if the affected units are programmed to not attack THAT chaos drone or any chaos drone at all, or they dont care and it's just that this one was neutral
I think affected units just attack friendly units, and since the chaos drone they were affected by is an enemy, they won't attack it
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People really love Red Alert 3?
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unit and same unit
unit *GET INFECTED* start attack same unit
infected unit : *sO ANwaY StarTEd BlAStInG*
20:55 i have better idea what about aegis cruiser+chaos drone+fire power upgrade+elite rank=???
It should work but since you can't target thus you can't see Aegis attacking on full speed.
@@tsiripas Are you sure about that? Isn't the chaos unit auto-targeting? (e.g. the Tesla Troopers going out of their way to attack the other)
Joe OrangeBlock yes but in case you don’t know, the aegis attack’s much faster when you manually select it to do. If it auto targets it’s like half as fast so basically I won’t be able to demonstrate a full speed on that unit.
@@tsiripas ok what about a Dreadnought or aircraft carrier
Mohamed Ysre will test it soon to see if it works
Заебись, это именно то, что мне нужно знать в конце 2019) Как же мало я знаю об этой офигенной игре. Спасибо!
Инглиш plz
How come my chaos drones don't infect my own troops :/
that's because the chaos drones in the video are not owned by anyone. notice they are colored white, not red
@@plaingibberjabber2017 oh, that explains it XD but there was one time i got my own drone to infect my own troop, can't remember how i did it though, i was a kid when i did that
@@JuanLorenzoLDeOca Force attack with A?
I think that was possible with an unpatched YR 1.0. I never got around testing with that version, so I can't confirm. But I can't deny either...
I mean, I feel like they should, given they're called *chaos* drones
You should have tested Fully promoted Flak trooper and Aegis against Kiros to see how those memes deal with them in berserk :p
You haven't watch enough of tg yet. Elite flak actually is worse than veteran flak trooper. Like a coding bug of ra2
Wait. You havent tested in on the slave of the slave miner, whether they are gona mine faster or kill each other. How about unit inside ifv or battlefortress?