II III, and IV made for a great trilogy. I like how they built on top of each other. Like, for instance, without II, no Genesis in III. Without the Enterprise, no cloaked Klingon ship in IV landing in a San Francisco park, and then later starting the whole Enterprise alphabet registries. And even in VI... without David getting killed in this one, no dramatic "I'll never forgive them for the death of my son" Klingon court scene.
@@MuzMuzzle Worf said it was a cat or Tasha Yar did in first season Next Gen when the Enterprise was flung out of normal space where people's memories/thoughts were being projected in real life
Vince Burden , Could not agree more! Christopher Lloyd is probably the most underrated actor in the history of American film. He took a mundane role and made it memorable. A shame his performance was wasted on a subpar film compared to the others in the series
The most underrated star trek film in my opinion.. I grew up up on this film. Lloyd was amazing and a true klingon interpretation. And that bird of prey... Beautiful!
This movie is flawed in a lot of ways and not as good as Wrath of Khan... but every scene with Lloyd is gold. Good Klingons make good Star Trek. Only VI does Klingons better.
It's usually the other way around. Michael Dorn was his grandfather lawyer in undiscovered country. There were other tertiary actors who were on TNG that filled in the movies but I can't remember the rest.
Picard wouldn't have known how to handle Kruge... Picards diplomacy would have got him in more trouble than Kirk had to deal with. And kirk had to destroy the enterprise just to have a "fighting chance to live"
ROTO SCOPIC I think in part because it's a middle chapter...a somewhat small-scale episodic story rather than a self-contained epic movie. If it were a TV episode it would be acclaimed as one of the best, but as a movie it feels a little odd. But there are so many great things in it: most of the effects work is first-rate (a clear step up from Wrath of Khan in places), Horner's score is almost as good as WoK (especially "Stealing the Enterprise", which is one of the best cues he ever wrote) and Lloyd is fantastic as Kruge.
ROTO SCOPIC As a child I never really liked this film but now I'm older I can appreciate just how good it really is. This also has some of the best effects in any of the original Star Trek films too.
1:39 I love the semi-scared face on the gunner after Kruge orders him to only target the engine. He definitely remembers what happened to the last guy who disobeyed that order.
Truth be told, this guy should have been the gunner. He understands orders, without talking back, not to mention, he hit the enterprises engine/automation center, while the bird of prey was off balance and regaining control, so he is good at his job.
+ed daniels This scene works the same as Wrath of Khan, there is a Kirk theme playing and a Klingon theme. Each theme perfectly captures the essence of the character. The two characters' individual music overlap, clash and fight for supremacy. The battle on the screen is perfectly matched by the battle in the musical score.
I always thought this was one of Christopher Lloyd's best performances. He always played in more comedies. Nice to see him in villain role. You almost forget he was also "Reverend Jim" from "Taxi" or "Doc Brown".
True. Though, it is interesting that he was Commander Kruge before he was Doc Brown. What makes it funny is the fact that the next movie, his Bird of prey goes back in time. "Now Kirk, when this baby reaches warp 8.8...you're going to see some serious shit."
Although this is an excellent, tense battle scene, it always makes me laugh when Kirk orders the Red Alert. Who are you trying to alert? There are only like four other people onboard, and they're all on the bridge already!
"GOOD SHOOTING MR. SCOTT!" I still remember the first time I saw this movie and how the whole audience (myself included) cheered when Scotty fired those photon torpedoes and they hit the Klingon Bird of Prey. It's too bad the Enterprise lost this fight and that it would be it's final battle but I'm still glad I saw it. Good Times!
I really wish I was able to see the movies in theaters when they first came out. Not only to get the "true" experience, but also to see everyone else's reactions.
EpicPigmasks I saw it at the cinema in 1984. Everyone was transfixed from the opening moment with the reprise of Spock's death scene from Wrath of Khan in the small cameo box that starts to get larger. Then it opens up into the glorious full-screen titles across the surface of the Genesis planet with Horner's wonderful score. A great cinematic experience.
I was watching this excellent film in '84 as well & still get goosebumps during the opening sequence & the battle between the enterprise & bird of prey.
LOL. That's gotta be so true. It's like that in Louisville, KY. You're gonna see at least two car accidents on the Gene Synder Freeway. And good luck getting off the exit ramp.
Don't know why so many consider this to be a bad film. Christopher Lloyd is spectacular, the score, the docking and escape from spacedock scenes, the Excelsior faceplant, David's death, the Enterprise destruction, the dialogue, and of course Spock's resurrection.
While I personally love this film,I think many people didn't so much think this a bad film as they simply saw it that it was lacking compared to TWOK. For many people including myself who saw this film in 1984, it was nearly impossible to not think about how it compared to TWOK. From the ship battle scenes,to the lead villian, to the recast Saavik. A lot of people got a little caught up on how it was a different experience from the last film as if "Something was missing" Actually,I thought Kruge was an excellent villain who was way more dangerous then Khan in that he wasn't totally in love with his own intellect. Kruge was a military officer with similar training and experience to Kirk. While going on an unauthorized incursion into Federation space to find Genesis, he was in the end, working in the (what he believed) were the interests of the Klingon Empire and its people. But in 1984, the memory of Ricardo Montalban's performance was still fresh,and somewhat prevented people from just looking at SFS as its own film.
I thought it was good, but I saw it before wrath of khan actually... I think the order i saw them in was 4, 3, 1, 2, 5 starting in the mid to late eighties. I wasn't really into star trek that much before that time. I had no idea Saavik was recast until later (so I saw her as a reverse recast) and it probably took a while for me to realize it was the same character.
I think alot of the hate as others have said basically boils down to it's not ST2. Different Savik. More sci-fi elements, Kirk spending the first half of the movie being an Admiral in Starfleet. And I also think that people don't feel any tension or "cheated" cause they know Spock will be fine. Personally I like this movie better then ST2, not saying I don't love ST2 just that I think this is the better movie.
Anyone who thinks that this is a bad movie should not be in a room with me exoressing that opinion. I'd defend Search for Spock more fervently that a GF of 5 years. I'm not kidding.
I know I'm a bit late on this, but the German Dub even used to emphasize this. You see, originally it translated all Klingon dialogue straight into German (this was only switched back for the DVD-release) and Kruge literally said here: _"Aim at Target. _*_Only_*_ aim at it! Got that!?"_
Even through Kruge is the villain in this movie, I kind of feel that perhaps it's not as deserved... he did not intend to destroy the Grissom outright. he did state he wanted prisoners. Still glad Kirk killed him.
"This is just the turn of luck I have been waiting for." I'll always remember that underrated line in this great movie. Well delivered by a great actor.
Yes - I actually really like Kruge's character. He is a leader, and "This is just the turn of luck I have been waiting for" may actually not be true (a science vessel probably is better) but he must maintain a good image for his crew. In fact, all of his dialogue in this clip (maintaining discipline, making sure his crew do the right thing, motivating his crew) are all signs of someone in a leadership position who must make the best of what he has. I especially like the ".......at MY COMMAND" after a pause after he realises someone might divert power to weapons prematurely and ruin the surprise. And his shout "EMERGENCY POWER!" is his desperate call to motivate his crew, who likely at that moment are all dazed and confused by such an unexpected turn of events, when they thought they were the ones surprising the Enterprise. A sign of a leader who constantly is aware of the deficiencies of his men.
Wtf...Not for fucking Kirk who lost his son? This is a wack fucking society with too many idiots watching The Dodo videos where they place more value on an animal's life than that of a Human being.
@@KH4444444444N I never said I didn't feel bad for Kirk who lost his son. Of course his loss is more tragic, but I can actually feel sorry for both. Don't be such a thin-skinned spaz.
Oddly enough, this scene is most memorable to me due to the intense music. It just keeps building and building as the Enterprise gets closer to the cloaked Klingon vessel, and then goes into a pretty cool beat during the (short) battle. And now whenever I hear music like this, the Klingons instantly come to mind.
What is sad in today's Star Trek we have no memorable characters. I'm blessed to growing up with stories. Thank you for the memories here. By the way when I saw this the movie was sold out.
Whilst I enjoy the new Star Trek, I am forced to agree with you. The stories are solid, but there's no major heroes like the original crew. Anson Mount's Pike is an exception. He felt like he was visiting from a different show altogether.
Really? I mean he was maybe a good black fleet commander, seeing how their job is being an intelligence/black ops agency, but a good commander for a Bird of Prey? No commander worth a damn would approach a constitution class cruiser from the front to decloak like that. The only reason he and his crew did not die right there and then is because the Eneterpise was badly damaged and running on automation.
@@_Muzolf Well they probably recognized the Enterprise had battle damage and his entire strategy was a surprise attack, hit them hard while they are unaware of their presence. Which honestly would have probably worked if Kirk and Sulu hadn't gotten lucky and spotted the Cloaking Device's distortion which prompted Kirk to ready torpedoes. One thing that does annoy me is the inconsistency in when ships can tell another ship is arming weapons. Namely usually the Hero Ship can detect the instant the enemy is locking on while the enemy ship tends to be unaware that their opponent has brought their weapons online.
Kruge was ruthless and shrewd. He let his anticipation for battling an armed Federation starship overcome his earlier caution when approaching Grissom. Had he sat and waited for Enterprise to go by before closing, he would have had a much better shot. Enterprise-A was in a similar situation when the sensors detected a bird of prey on approach, but the crew was mesmerized by images from the surface below. Klaa seemed to attack both times from either side or stern. Kruge was a menacing "to the manor born" Klingon War Lord, compared to the commoner Martok who viewed service as ultimate duty, rather than power. Martok would not have crossed the neutral zone in search of Genesis nor planted Valkris as a spy to ruthlessly kill if she became a liability.
Kruge was the type of Klingon character that had the most impact for me. Cunning, ruthless, and a tactical thinker. Not like the "hairband" barbarians in TNG. Nothing is more intimidating than having a cold, calculating opponent.
Odd. Christopher Loyd (Kruge;s) ship is used as a Time Machine in the next Star Trek film. Christopher Lloyd's followup to STIII was Back to the Future.
I've always liked David's expression when he hears Kirk's voice and knows that the Enterprise arrived. In that moment when he smirks, he seems to be thinking, "My Dad's gonna kick your sorry Klingon A***s". When your Dad comes to save you, bad guys watch out!
It's interesting to note that at the time of its release in 1984, a lot of the reviews were very good. I agree with the comments a very underrated Star Trek film
Excellent movie, the first time they show a Klingon bird of prey. Wonderful angry Christopher Lloyd as Commander Kruge. I am an old Trekkie and like all of Star Trek movies with the original TOS Crew. Live long and prosper 🖖. Thanks alot for uploading. Best regards from Vienna, Austria 🇦🇹, Europe Michael
I always liked how they portrayed the klingons in this one, more lethal and cunning. TNG made them seem more like mindless brutes. The bird of prey is the best too. Rust bucket but quick and deadly . this is my fave trek film.
I read somewhere the villains were originally going to be Romulans, but Leonard Nimoy (or someone else on the production team) felt that audiences would confuse them for Vulcans, so they were changed to Klingons. It would make sense because these Klingons do act like Romulans; they're more cunning and sneaky.
Contrast with the very different character of Chang from 6 and the equally great performance of Christopher Plummer, two formidable Klingons but very different in personality and apparently education and status in other words real believable characters
@@AdhamOhm Also it's the _Romulans_ that use little, cloaked, Birds of Prey. Klingons use big Battle Cruisers. This movie would start the long confusing history of Klingon/Romulan ships.
Any and everything Christopher Lloyd is in is good. Loved him in Mr. Mom as the co worker of Keaton's who strangles the boss the moment Keaton arrives in the boss's office and Lloyd says "Why didn't you tell me I was being canned?" followed by him saying "Great there's only one more thing that I want." the boss he and Keaton asks "Yeah, What's that?" and Lloyd replies "Disability!"
As Scotty pointed out, he didn't expect to take them into combat. A ship the size of the Enterprise really couldn't run normal operations with only a few men. It took Scotty's engineering genius to do what they did. Regular maintenance on all systems alone would've required a hundred people. But since the Enterprise was to be decommissioned, they weren't worried about keeping the ship in pristine order. It was only a single mission to Genesis then to Vulcan, no surprises. LOL
@@martinwashington3994 Thank you. (BTW.... I have a few questions for you). QUESTION 1: Plus, what do you think of both Krall (in the 2016 film "Star Trek: Beyond" he is portrayed by legendary actor Idris Elba, who is also best remembered for voicing Shere Khan, the main antagonist in the 2016 Disney film "The Jungle Book") and also........ Captain Vadic (she is one of the Primary Main Antagonists, alongside the Borg Queen, in Season 3 of "Star Trek: Picard" TV Series portrayed brilliantly by actress Amanda Plummer, the daughter of the late Christopher Plummer..... who had earlier played the villainous Klingon General Chang in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country")? QUESTION 2: Do you want to know why I really really really like BOTH Krall and Vadic as Villains, and why the're two of the BEST modern day "Star Trek" Villans of all time in my opinion?
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I credit Lloyd's portrayal of a Klingon warrior as the template for the Klingons in the Next Generation and subsequent shows. He was fearless and held honor above all else.
@Roy Scheider in a hamster suit Yeah that's a good point. Not just ST3 but Trek overall has a strange way of nerfing torpedoes for better or worse depending on plot. I get why they had to sacrifice the Enterprise i just think perhaps a couple of volleys from the phaser banks would maybe have been more realistic as the BOP would have a better chance of shrugging that of. They could even have added a line of dialogue saying torpedoes were removed as part of decommission steps when the Enterprise was in Spacedock. The extra battle damage on the Enterprise at the beginning of this film is fascinating and again an extra Captains log one liner of the troubles encountered on route home could have added some teeth to the controversy of the genesis project. All of the above is just me nitpicking ST3 is a solid film with some of the best Trek moments ever put to screen.
@@Audioholics The enterprise taking out the Klingon boarding party and streaking across the sky while the crew watch on is literally the definition of going out in a blaze of glory though.
Wow, that's just what I was thinking regarding the Enterprise bridge in the TOS films. The chairs on the 1701 refit bridge look so much more comfy than the Enterprise-A chairs in V and VI. The Enterprise-A actually started off with the same bridge as the refit at the end of IV, but with the panels and displays upgraded. Then the bridge had different looks in V and VI, where the new chairs seemed to have less back support.
@@andrewparis5712 Oh really? That must have happened while they were filming IV then. Because at the start of the film, the USS Saratoga still has the old panels.
3:54 One of the most heart-wrenching moments in Trek ever. The poor, battered Enterprise has no more to give. She's burnt out and trapped in orbit around a dying planet.
Great call. "Stealing The Enterprise" is one of the best scenes in all of Star Trek. "Bridge, this is the Captain. How can there be a Yellow Alert in Space Dock?"
Every time I back out of a parking spot, ESPECIALLY A GARAGE; the stealing scene music goes through my head. Even better I've been driving Dodge Chargers the past decade, so I always floor it like Kirk did.
He set the standard for all Klingons yet to follow when this movie was released. Sure you saw Klingons in the Original series, and in the Motion Picture, but it was Christopher Lloyd who truly made the Klingons into what we later saw in the later Star Trek series to follow. Actually, I read not to long ago that Christopher Lloyd improvised most of what you saw on screen.
He is just one of the best character actors, he is part of the reason why BTTF was such a good trilogy and also a great villain in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
@@ipponyc Taking a ship to red alert does more than change the color of the lights, systems get put into different modes than they otherwise would have been in, some stuff gets switched on, some stuff switched off to transfer power.
This movie was so underrated. Episodes 2, 3, and 4 make my favorite film trilogy. If you pretend 5 does not exist and go straight to 6, it was an incredible run.
This exactly. As much as I grew to appreciate The Motion Picture in my later years, this is how I tell my friends to watch them. Considering how garbage most of new Star Trek has been, (although so far, so good on SNW) I'll never not have love in my heart for the classic TOS movies. Shit, I'd rather watch Star Trek 5 once a week over all of Discover and Picard just once and only once. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but The Undiscovered Country is my fave
Personally, whenever I do a marathon of the Star Trek movies, I never leave out the ones that everyone says are bad. The motion picture itself definitely isn’t perfect, but it has something about it that makes it impossible for me to leave out of a marathon. And as for 5, I honestly don’t hate it. I think it’s genuinely a fun movie to sit through. This is just me personally though.
Becuz it was just supposed to be a quick trip to Genesis & Scotty didn't have much time to get her ready. They also had no idea the Klingons would be there.
Because they did not expect to run into Klingons. All they were doing was borrowing the Enterprise from Starfleet, not fire of the Excelsior or another Starfleet vessel. I doubt that Kirk would have ordered Chekhov or Scotty to fire on a fleet vessel, or risk injuring Starfleet personal.
@MrHoppers002 The ship was automated by Mr. Scott to make it flyable with a sub-skeleton crew. With the idea that only basic functions like propulsion and warp were needed for their mission. Once they went into combat, it overloaded the system.
Keep in mind a bird of prey, even the scout version (there is a larger cruiser version as well) is one armored SOB. Its meant to take some pounding before suffering severe damage. Also, dont know what detonaton yeild those torpedoes where set to either. And since scotty didnt expect combat, they may have been just low yeild.
2:03 In every board game, card game and video game I have ever played in my life, this has been me waiting for my big moment....and at 2:32 this is what usually happens to me.
I love Star Trek III. I consider it to be the best 'odd-numbered' Film of the Series and even better than most even-numbered ones. Its surely not perfect, but... hard to describe, but STIII has an Epic, almost 'Operatic' Feeling about it few ST-Films (or Episodes, for that matter) have.
The odd number thing is a myth. TMP is different. It's slow. It's thoughtful. It's not very fun, but it's gorgeous to look at, mysterious, frightening, and to call it a bad movie is unfair. The middle three are all excellent, different movies that tell one story. 6 is a perfect send off. Star Trek 5 sucks. And that's okay. 5/6 is a pretty good hit rate.
His new gunner was smart to follow orders. The last one disobeyed a direct order from Kruge to disable the engines to take USS Grissom hostage and blew the whole thing up. Then he attempted to make excuses for himself by claiming it to be "a lucky shot" that got him killed
The O.G. Klingon Bird of Prey...the first starship you saw face off against Enterprise and realise that Enterprise might actually be in trouble. Especially when it's hit with TWO photon torpedoes and SHRUGS IT OFF. It looks like a part predator, part ornate bladed weapon, and is practically dripping weapons. One wonders if Chris Roberts was inspired by this ship for some of his designs for the Kilrathi.
except that it wasn't really a ruse....the Enterprise took serious damage in the last movie.....damage that was still visible on the hull in this movie...so it comes as no surprise that the Enterprise only had power enough for one sucker punch before everything shorted out
Neal X I interpreted it as they had power for weapons, or power for shields, but not both in the ship's condition. If she had a full crew and had fewer damaged systems, or no damage at all as Kruge said, they outgunned the Bird of Prey and could have easily overpowered it. But with the battle damage and the reliance on the limited automation system- which Scotty hadn't rigged for combat as he wasn't expecting it- they really didn't have much chance against the Klingons.
*sigh* There is literally nothing to interpret, just listen to the damn dialogue of the movie... McCoy says: "no shields?" in a questioning tone - Kirk answers "if my guess is right they have to decloak before they can fire" Do I really have to spell out to you what this means? Kirk CAN put the shields up but he purposefully gambles not to, banking on the free shot he gets while the BoP decloaks. If he put the shields up, the Klingons would immediately know they had lost the element of surprise. This is something I would have figured would be obvious.
Fun fact, originally it was supposed to be Romulans manning the Bird of Prey. But they decided at the last second to go with the Klingons since they were more the popular alien. They were considering creating a new ship for the Klingons, but decided to still use the BOP they had already built due to budget restraints.
Then they had a middle ground story, where the Bird of Prey was a stolen warbird, stolen by Kruge and his unit to recover the Genesis information the Romulans intercepted, using it to destroy a romulan fleet in the process.
I always say, if the Federation would quit putting explosives in their electronics they'd eliminate 90% of their problems. But Christopher Lloyd is unquestionably the best Klingon ever. He is so totally committed to every role.
Remember.... they had to hand paint the rotoscoping matte frame by frame just to have one spaceship appear. All the CGI in the world can't beat that talent.
I still don't get why Kirk didn't simply fire at the distortion. How many times did the crew encounter cloaked enemy vessels in the past? Wouldn't they have recognized that? Of course, Cmdr. Uhura knew this, but she wasn't on board. :)
Because while he could see the distortion with his eyes, there was nothing for the sensors to lock onto. He would have had to guess the range, bearing, speed and course of the Klingon ship. The smart play was to wait for it to de-cloak and then lock onto it and fire on it the moment it de-cloaked.
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Whether he plays a Klingon, Judge Doom, Doctor Emmet L. Brown, Professor Plum, or Uncle Fester, Christopher Lloyd is one if the best actors ever.
wcwlives He has a very broad spectrum of acting abilities.
+wcwlives I WAS FROZEN, TODAY!!!! My favorite Christopher Lloyd line in a movie lol
yes he plays a great klingon
Don't forget Suburban Commando!
I was FROZEN TODAY!!!! lol
Best line ever
II III, and IV made for a great trilogy. I like how they built on top of each other. Like, for instance, without II, no Genesis in III. Without the Enterprise, no cloaked Klingon ship in IV landing in a San Francisco park, and then later starting the whole Enterprise alphabet registries. And even in VI... without David getting killed in this one, no dramatic "I'll never forgive them for the death of my son" Klingon court scene.
How can you not like Kruge after you see him mourn the death of his dog? Some things are universal.
It's a cat
@@MuzMuzzle Worf said it was a cat or Tasha Yar did in first season Next Gen when the Enterprise was flung out of normal space where people's memories/thoughts were being projected in real life
Actually, they call it Targ.
His girlfriend? Not so much.
I mean a certain Austrian dictator had a dog too. Doesn't really mean anything.
Lloyd stole the show, was simply fantastic and perfect in this role..
Vince Burden ,
Could not agree more!
Christopher Lloyd is probably the most underrated actor in the history of American film. He took a mundane role and made it memorable. A shame his performance was wasted on a subpar film compared to the others in the series
The most underrated star trek film in my opinion.. I grew up up on this film. Lloyd was amazing and a true klingon interpretation. And that bird of prey... Beautiful!
Especially when he wasted his own man for blowing up the grissom...
This movie is flawed in a lot of ways and not as good as Wrath of Khan... but every scene with Lloyd is gold. Good Klingons make good Star Trek. Only VI does Klingons better.
@@iainbagnall4825 Can you elaborate on the flaws? Just for my curiosity 😆
Christopher Loyd portrayed a Klingon with such excellence I wish he could've done a cameo on TNG as another Klingon.
It's usually the other way around. Michael Dorn was his grandfather lawyer in undiscovered country. There were other tertiary actors who were on TNG that filled in the movies but I can't remember the rest.
Picard wouldn't have known how to handle Kruge... Picards diplomacy would have got him in more trouble than Kirk had to deal with. And kirk had to destroy the enterprise just to have a "fighting chance to live"
It's not too late for him to guest star on Discovery....
@@korblborp
Discovery? Really...really?
the show don’t have the budget to hire a high profile movie actor like Lloyd
What I love is that they actually give Klingon their own distance measuring unit.
I luv that they gave the Klingon commander a pet Klingon dog. Haha.
Dr Galactose I always thought that it was a targ
Targ is rather like a wild boar
The Klingon Kellicam
yes and it would begin with the letter K wouldn't it? just like everything else klingon.
Star Trek 3 remains the most wildly underrated film in the entire series.
ROTO SCOPIC I think in part because it's a middle chapter...a somewhat small-scale episodic story rather than a self-contained epic movie. If it were a TV episode it would be acclaimed as one of the best, but as a movie it feels a little odd. But there are so many great things in it: most of the effects work is first-rate (a clear step up from Wrath of Khan in places), Horner's score is almost as good as WoK (especially "Stealing the Enterprise", which is one of the best cues he ever wrote) and Lloyd is fantastic as Kruge.
TitanFind Excellent points made. I've always seen it as the Empire Strikes Back of the series, as it does what ESB did using similar devices.
Totally. The more I watch, the more I appreciate this film. It's a nice arc between II and IV, and fleshes out the Klingons a lot more.
TitanFind I agree. I've always loved James Horner's work, and Christopher Lloyd was excellent. Kruge proved to be a very worthy adversary for Kirk.
ROTO SCOPIC As a child I never really liked this film but now I'm older I can appreciate just how good it really is.
This also has some of the best effects in any of the original Star Trek films too.
1:39 I love the semi-scared face on the gunner after Kruge orders him to only target the engine. He definitely remembers what happened to the last guy who disobeyed that order.
and also mouthed off to the angry Kruge
Understood CLEARLY, sir.
Truth be told, this guy should have been the gunner. He understands orders, without talking back, not to mention, he hit the enterprises engine/automation center, while the bird of prey was off balance and regaining control, so he is good at his job.
If there was ever a time that a Klingon s**t his pants it was at that moment.
"A lucky shot"
pew! pew!
Only the genius that was James Horner could write such perfect music for this scene. Sadly missed.
+Torqual i doubt the star trek movies would have done so well if it werent for the musical scores produced. good call on pointing that out
+ed daniels This scene works the same as Wrath of Khan, there is a Kirk theme playing and a Klingon theme. Each theme perfectly captures the essence of the character. The two characters' individual music overlap, clash and fight for supremacy. The battle on the screen is perfectly matched by the battle in the musical score.
Kirk killed his dog.
Apparently the soundtrack in this was leftovers from the prior movies. Even the B tier music was good enough for a whole other movie.
I always love the lock on David's face when he looks at Saavik and realizes his dad is coming to save them.
That just added to the sense of "WTF!!!" When the Klingons actually kick the Enterprise's ass.
A good false sense of security.
@@kamdan2011 those klingon bastards killed my son!
but he didn't.
The price was high but nearly the entire Klingon crew ended up dead and the last one and the ship itself ended up being taken.
I love the delivery of the line: "Put 'em on screen"
I thought i was the only one.
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It's sooo smoothe...........
I always thought this was one of Christopher Lloyd's best performances. He always played in more comedies. Nice to see him in villain role. You almost forget he was also "Reverend Jim" from "Taxi" or "Doc Brown".
True. Though, it is interesting that he was Commander Kruge before he was Doc Brown. What makes it funny is the fact that the next movie, his Bird of prey goes back in time. "Now Kirk, when this baby reaches warp 8.8...you're going to see some serious shit."
WHERE BEAGLE'S DARE you should watch "Things to do in Denver when your dead". He was kinda a villain in that
He was also the villain in the legend of the Lone Ranger. back in the 80s.
When he yells "drop all weapons!" on the planet's surface, all I could think of was Taxi and I cracked up!
It was one of his worst, as bad as Suburban Commando.
Although this is an excellent, tense battle scene, it always makes me laugh when Kirk orders the Red Alert. Who are you trying to alert? There are only like four other people onboard, and they're all on the bridge already!
It probably did more than just alert the crew...
Hi, from the future. I would think that going to red alert probably activates certain defense and combat systems, diverting power, etc.
Are you sure sir? It does mean changing the bulb.
@@iainbagnall4825 Red dwarf :D
Dude Red Alert raises the shields and arms all weapons!!
"GOOD SHOOTING MR. SCOTT!" I still remember the first time I saw this movie and how the whole audience (myself included) cheered when Scotty fired those photon torpedoes and they hit the Klingon Bird of Prey. It's too bad the Enterprise lost this fight and that it would be it's final battle but I'm still glad I saw it. Good Times!
Under normal conditions they would pulverize the Bird of Prey.
I enjoyed the hell out of this part. Just straight-up gunfighting, with Kirk being the faster shot.
I really wish I was able to see the movies in theaters when they first came out. Not only to get the "true" experience, but also to see everyone else's reactions.
EpicPigmasks I saw it at the cinema in 1984. Everyone was transfixed from the opening moment with the reprise of Spock's death scene from Wrath of Khan in the small cameo box that starts to get larger. Then it opens up into the glorious full-screen titles across the surface of the Genesis planet with Horner's wonderful score. A great cinematic experience.
I was watching this excellent film in '84 as well & still get goosebumps during the opening sequence & the battle between the enterprise & bird of prey.
When Capt. Krug yells "Emergency Powah!" at the 2:58 mark; this is what it's like to drive a 4 cylinder truck on California's freeways.
LOL. That's gotta be so true. It's like that in Louisville, KY. You're gonna see at least two car accidents on the Gene Synder Freeway. And good luck getting off the exit ramp.
Don't know why so many consider this to be a bad film. Christopher Lloyd is spectacular, the score, the docking and escape from spacedock scenes, the Excelsior faceplant, David's death, the Enterprise destruction, the dialogue, and of course Spock's resurrection.
While I personally love this film,I think many people didn't so much think this a bad film as they simply saw it that it was lacking compared to
TWOK.
For many people including myself who saw this film in 1984, it was nearly impossible to not think about how it compared to TWOK.
From the ship battle scenes,to the lead villian, to the recast Saavik. A lot of people got a little caught up on how it was a different experience
from the last film as if "Something was missing"
Actually,I thought Kruge was an excellent villain who was way more dangerous then Khan in that he wasn't totally in love with his own intellect.
Kruge was a military officer with similar training and experience to Kirk. While going on an unauthorized incursion into Federation space to find
Genesis, he was in the end, working in the (what he believed) were the interests of the Klingon Empire and its people.
But in 1984, the memory of Ricardo Montalban's performance was still fresh,and somewhat prevented people from just looking at SFS
as its own film.
I thought it was good, but I saw it before wrath of khan actually... I think the order i saw them in was 4, 3, 1, 2, 5 starting in the mid to late eighties. I wasn't really into star trek that much before that time. I had no idea Saavik was recast until later (so I saw her as a reverse recast) and it probably took a while for me to realize it was the same character.
I think alot of the hate as others have said basically boils down to it's not ST2. Different Savik. More sci-fi elements, Kirk spending the first half of the movie being an Admiral in Starfleet. And I also think that people don't feel any tension or "cheated" cause they know Spock will be fine. Personally I like this movie better then ST2, not saying I don't love ST2 just that I think this is the better movie.
It's actually the most fun to watch, after only ST2 and ST6.
Anyone who thinks that this is a bad movie should not be in a room with me exoressing that opinion. I'd defend Search for Spock more fervently that a GF of 5 years. I'm not kidding.
On the Enterprise: "Good shooting, Mr. Scott!"
On the Klingon ship: "GREAT SCOTT!"
I drive my family nuts because I am always quoting, "This is just the turn of luck I have been waiting for."
Hehehe that's a good one to quote.
"We have cleared, space doors" when I finish backing the SUV out of the driveway ... sometimes.
'Target engine only,' loosely translated as, 'miss and you are dead friggin' meat!'
and also means "blow them up, and you're dead friggin' meat"
@@TheChoujinVirus Just like the last Gunner
I know I'm a bit late on this, but the German Dub even used to emphasize this. You see, originally it translated all Klingon dialogue straight into German (this was only switched back for the DVD-release) and Kruge literally said here: _"Aim at Target. _*_Only_*_ aim at it! Got that!?"_
And also means "You saw what I did to the other guy who refused to follow orders. Do the same as him, and you're dead friggin' meat!"
Even through Kruge is the villain in this movie, I kind of feel that perhaps it's not as deserved... he did not intend to destroy the Grissom outright. he did state he wanted prisoners. Still glad Kirk killed him.
Chris Lloyd was an effective villain here. I love that gravely voice he used.
+matthewakian2 Agreed. He's also a very different kind of Villain when compared to Khan: No big gestures, to the point, calculating.
Schwatvogel Yes.
1:27
"Gunner - Target Engine only - Understood"
"Uh, yeah, I saw how you fried the other guy.... Understood clearly sir!!!"
I love the way Kurg says "put him on screen." Like he knows there's still a chance to salvage the situation.
It wasn't until that moment I realized it was Christopher Lloyd
"This is just the turn of luck I have been waiting for." I'll always remember that underrated line in this great movie. Well delivered by a great actor.
Yes - I actually really like Kruge's character. He is a leader, and "This is just the turn of luck I have been waiting for" may actually not be true (a science vessel probably is better) but he must maintain a good image for his crew. In fact, all of his dialogue in this clip (maintaining discipline, making sure his crew do the right thing, motivating his crew) are all signs of someone in a leadership position who must make the best of what he has.
I especially like the ".......at MY COMMAND" after a pause after he realises someone might divert power to weapons prematurely and ruin the surprise. And his shout "EMERGENCY POWER!" is his desperate call to motivate his crew, who likely at that moment are all dazed and confused by such an unexpected turn of events, when they thought they were the ones surprising the Enterprise. A sign of a leader who constantly is aware of the deficiencies of his men.
2:53
I always felt bad for Kruge when he hugged his dead dog-lizard thing.
Captain_Hat It's a Klingon Targ.
I guess this dog was named Edison because in Back to the Future his dog was Einstein.
Wtf...Not for fucking Kirk who lost his son? This is a wack fucking society with too many idiots watching The Dodo videos where they place more value on an animal's life than that of a Human being.
@@KH4444444444N I never said I didn't feel bad for Kirk who lost his son. Of course his loss is more tragic, but I can actually feel sorry for both. Don't be such a thin-skinned spaz.
@@k.c.lejeune6613 no it's not, Targs are boar-like as we see in TNG
"Range?"
"1.21 kellicams, sir"
"1.21 KELLICAMS!!!!!"
When this baby hits 88 kellicams an hour.....you're gonna see some serious sh*t!
Engage the Mr. Fusion Cloaking |Device!!!
@@hmartinspliff 😂😂😂
"But sir, at 1.21 kellicams we're going to see Captain Kirk's molecules."
"DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WANT TO HIT THEM WITH MY BAT'LETH!"
Oddly enough, this scene is most memorable to me due to the intense music. It just keeps building and building as the Enterprise gets closer to the cloaked Klingon vessel, and then goes into a pretty cool beat during the (short) battle. And now whenever I hear music like this, the Klingons instantly come to mind.
beam the vulcan up and well talk no but why because you wish it
i heard music like this on the arnold schwarznegger movie commando.
The big hype of the film was the death of the Enterprise.
RIP James Horner.
Apparently, Scotty never did install circuit breakers in the Enterprise.
+Liberty Never Sleeps
How would you install a circuit breaker in a plasma pipe?
+Schwarzer Ritter In the electrical panel FFS.
damnit Jim
These comments are hilarious!
LOL
What is sad in today's Star Trek we have no memorable characters.
I'm blessed to growing up with stories.
Thank you for the memories here.
By the way when I saw this the movie was sold out.
Whilst I enjoy the new Star Trek, I am forced to agree with you. The stories are solid, but there's no major heroes like the original crew.
Anson Mount's Pike is an exception. He felt like he was visiting from a different show altogether.
Commander Kruge (Christopher Lloyd)---Finest Klingon Commander to EVER command a Klingon Bird of Prey.
Really? I mean he was maybe a good black fleet commander, seeing how their job is being an intelligence/black ops agency, but a good commander for a Bird of Prey? No commander worth a damn would approach a constitution class cruiser from the front to decloak like that. The only reason he and his crew did not die right there and then is because the Eneterpise was badly damaged and running on automation.
I love Lyoyds performance but i think Martok was a better commander (and a more interesting person).
@@_Muzolf Well they probably recognized the Enterprise had battle damage and his entire strategy was a surprise attack, hit them hard while they are unaware of their presence. Which honestly would have probably worked if Kirk and Sulu hadn't gotten lucky and spotted the Cloaking Device's distortion which prompted Kirk to ready torpedoes.
One thing that does annoy me is the inconsistency in when ships can tell another ship is arming weapons. Namely usually the Hero Ship can detect the instant the enemy is locking on while the enemy ship tends to be unaware that their opponent has brought their weapons online.
Kruge was ruthless and shrewd. He let his anticipation for battling an armed Federation starship overcome his earlier caution when approaching Grissom. Had he sat and waited for Enterprise to go by before closing, he would have had a much better shot.
Enterprise-A was in a similar situation when the sensors detected a bird of prey on approach, but the crew was mesmerized by images from the surface below. Klaa seemed to attack both times from either side or stern.
Kruge was a menacing "to the manor born" Klingon War Lord, compared to the commoner Martok who viewed service as ultimate duty, rather than power. Martok would not have crossed the neutral zone in search of Genesis nor planted Valkris as a spy to ruthlessly kill if she became a liability.
Kruge was the type of Klingon character that had the most impact for me. Cunning, ruthless, and a tactical thinker. Not like the "hairband" barbarians in TNG. Nothing is more intimidating than having a cold, calculating opponent.
And he had the balls to call Kirk's bluff in the next scene, objectively you can argue he was Kirk's toughest opponent
Odd. Christopher Loyd (Kruge;s) ship is used as a Time Machine in the next Star Trek film. Christopher Lloyd's followup to STIII was Back to the Future.
"Now Kirk when this baby hits warp 8.8, you're gonna see some serious shit..."
@@BoilerUp3030 or 88 billion miles per hour
@@BoilerUp3030 if you're gonna build a time machine into a starship, why not do it with some style?
The IKS "Bounty" is to this day my favorite time-travel vehicle.
3:07; "urination system's overloaded?" Maybe you should pee before going into combat.
he actually said automation systems overloaded
I know. I just thought it was kinda funny how it sounded.
Lucas Davis oh ok :)
It's all good.
Be sure to do number one before you have any fun...know what I mean?
I've always liked David's expression when he hears Kirk's voice and knows that the Enterprise arrived. In that moment when he smirks, he seems to be thinking, "My Dad's gonna kick your sorry Klingon A***s". When your Dad comes to save you, bad guys watch out!
Yes, this is how you charge the audience and get them invested. David's smile telegraphs the feeling that, Yes! The Dice🎲Are Rolling!
I BELIEVE DENNIS OTT PLAYED THE KLINGON WHO KILLED DAVID. BOTH ACTORS DIED OF AIDS RELATED ILLNESSES.
@@karlhelm875 🖖😢
Kirk could only win by sacrificing the ship and the cost of David’s own demise.
It's interesting to note that at the time of its release in 1984, a lot of the reviews were very good. I agree with the comments a very underrated Star Trek film
some days I feel like screaming 'EMERGENCY POWER...' too
"EMERGENCY POWER! GIVE ME THRUSTERS!"
"Then you get out of the damn car and push."
You have to shout like that when you drive a Chevy
@@daveybernard1056 Lol. Thanx.
Excellent movie, the first time they show a Klingon bird of prey.
Wonderful angry Christopher Lloyd as Commander Kruge.
I am an old Trekkie and like all of Star Trek movies with the original TOS Crew.
Live long and prosper 🖖.
Thanks alot for uploading.
Best regards from Vienna, Austria 🇦🇹, Europe
Michael
also the first time we see a klingon dagger too.
Even though it was like a Western Draw (one ship shoots then the other)...this is one of the best space battles in all the Star Trek movies.
I always liked how they portrayed the klingons in this one, more lethal and cunning. TNG made them seem more like mindless brutes. The bird of prey is the best too. Rust bucket but quick and deadly . this is my fave trek film.
I read somewhere the villains were originally going to be Romulans, but Leonard Nimoy (or someone else on the production team) felt that audiences would confuse them for Vulcans, so they were changed to Klingons. It would make sense because these Klingons do act like Romulans; they're more cunning and sneaky.
Contrast with the very different character of Chang from 6 and the equally great performance of Christopher Plummer, two formidable Klingons but very different in personality and apparently education and status in other words real believable characters
@@AdhamOhm
Also it's the _Romulans_ that use little, cloaked, Birds of Prey. Klingons use big Battle Cruisers. This movie would start the long confusing history of Klingon/Romulan ships.
There are people who keep saying that the only good Christopher Lloyd's role was Doc Brown..
Have you ever seen this movie?!?!
Yep he was terrific in this. I also thought he was really good as the wacky mental patient in "The Dream Team".
Any and everything Christopher Lloyd is in is good. Loved him in Mr. Mom as the co worker of Keaton's who strangles the boss the moment Keaton arrives in the boss's office and Lloyd says "Why didn't you tell me I was being canned?" followed by him saying "Great there's only one more thing that I want." the boss he and Keaton asks "Yeah, What's that?" and Lloyd replies "Disability!"
Christopher Lloyd is one of the biggest parts of pop culture there ever was. He just did it all, and did it well.
"If I'm right, they'll have to decloak to fire."
Last time that was said in the series.
As Scotty pointed out, he didn't expect to take them into combat. A ship the size of the Enterprise really couldn't run normal operations with only a few men. It took Scotty's engineering genius to do what they did. Regular maintenance on all systems alone would've required a hundred people. But since the Enterprise was to be decommissioned, they weren't worried about keeping the ship in pristine order. It was only a single mission to Genesis then to Vulcan, no surprises. LOL
The look his son gives Savak at the start .
My dads coming to kick your Klingon Ass ......
Commander Kruge is without doubt the most dangerous, memorable, and most ruthless villain in the "Star Trek" franchise alongside Khan.
Jamie Olberding agreed 100%!
@@martinwashington3994 Thank you. (BTW.... I have a few questions for you).
QUESTION 1: Plus, what do you think of both Krall (in the 2016 film "Star Trek: Beyond" he is portrayed by legendary actor Idris Elba, who is also best remembered for voicing Shere Khan, the main antagonist in the 2016 Disney film "The Jungle Book") and also........ Captain Vadic (she is one of the Primary Main Antagonists, alongside the Borg Queen, in Season 3 of "Star Trek: Picard" TV Series portrayed brilliantly by actress Amanda Plummer, the daughter of the late Christopher Plummer..... who had earlier played the villainous Klingon General Chang in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country")?
QUESTION 2: Do you want to know why I really really really like BOTH Krall and Vadic as Villains, and why the're two of the BEST modern day "Star Trek" Villans of all time in my opinion?
Christopher Lloyd and John Larroquette: Excellent Klingons...
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I credit Lloyd's portrayal of a Klingon warrior as the template for the Klingons in the Next Generation and subsequent shows. He was fearless and held honor above all else.
i always enjoyed this movie but felt the battle over Genesis was too brief.
Agreed, I would have preferred the Enterprise going out in a blaze of glory via battle, not self destruct. But, still iconic.
@Roy Scheider in a hamster suit Yeah that's a good point. Not just ST3 but Trek overall has a strange way of nerfing torpedoes for better or worse depending on plot. I get why they had to sacrifice the Enterprise i just think perhaps a couple of volleys from the phaser banks would maybe have been more realistic as the BOP would have a better chance of shrugging that of. They could even have added a line of dialogue saying torpedoes were removed as part of decommission steps when the Enterprise was in Spacedock. The extra battle damage on the Enterprise at the beginning of this film is fascinating and again an extra Captains log one liner of the troubles encountered on route home could have added some teeth to the controversy of the genesis project. All of the above is just me nitpicking ST3 is a solid film with some of the best Trek moments ever put to screen.
@@geraldward5318 Agreed.... a small unshielded bird of prey would not have been so little damaged by two direct torpedo hits.
@@Audioholics The enterprise taking out the Klingon boarding party and streaking across the sky while the crew watch on is literally the definition of going out in a blaze of glory though.
Even when they rebuilt NC-1701-A, I liked this bridge the best. There was something more comfortable about it than the bridge in Star Treks V and VI.
Wow, that's just what I was thinking regarding the Enterprise bridge in the TOS films. The chairs on the 1701 refit bridge look so much more comfy than the Enterprise-A chairs in V and VI. The Enterprise-A actually started off with the same bridge as the refit at the end of IV, but with the panels and displays upgraded. Then the bridge had different looks in V and VI, where the new chairs seemed to have less back support.
@@AndrewChapman That's because the original panels for the refit set were left outside on the Paramount lot and rotted away.
@@andrewparis5712 Oh really? That must have happened while they were filming IV then. Because at the start of the film, the USS Saratoga still has the old panels.
It happened sometime after IV and the first couple seasons of TNG, as certain show scenes were redresses of the refit Bridge.
Anwar Dunbar...first off they didn't rebuild the 1701-a...the 1701-a was formally the USS Yorktown
3:54
One of the most heart-wrenching moments in Trek ever.
The poor, battered Enterprise has no more to give. She's burnt out and trapped in orbit around a dying planet.
The Enterprise's luck had finally run out.
No matter how battered was the Big-E: under nominal circumstances (a regular crew aboard), the Klingons would be defeated in matter of seconds.
@@andreabindolini7452 Enterprise D Crew: Wait are you saying if we fired more than once we could have beaten that 30 year old Bird of prey?!
@@rueceless7580 LOL so true! Remember when they were being attacked by two 30-year-old birds of prey crewed by Ferengi and fired back once?
But she still saved her crew one last time
Loved this part of the movie when I was a kid, also Stealing The Enterprise too! This movie had a great soundtrack to it.
Great call. "Stealing The Enterprise" is one of the best scenes in all of Star Trek.
"Bridge, this is the Captain. How can there be a Yellow Alert in Space Dock?"
Every time I back out of a parking spot, ESPECIALLY A GARAGE; the stealing scene music goes through my head. Even better I've been driving Dodge Chargers the past decade, so I always floor it like Kirk did.
One of my favorite parts of this movie, Kirk as experienced tactician and straight-up gunfighter.
Interesting to know that Kirk and crew end up taking Doc's spaceship on a cruise through time to save the future.
Christopher Lloyd ...best Klingon ever
better than John Laroquette??
orgonko the wildly untamed yes
He set the standard for all Klingons yet to follow when this movie was released. Sure you saw Klingons in the Original series, and in the Motion Picture, but it was Christopher Lloyd who truly made the Klingons into what we later saw in the later Star Trek series to follow. Actually, I read not to long ago that Christopher Lloyd improvised most of what you saw on screen.
Nooooo ... so cringe, 😔
He is just one of the best character actors, he is part of the reason why BTTF was such a good trilogy and also a great villain in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
I just love that approach angle of the Enterprise as viewed from the Klingon perspective.
Kirk is a smart shrewd captain he always fines a way to win
Kruge is just a regular guy out with his team and his targ. Just doing his job. Everyday hero of the empire
I love how they go to Red Alert and everyone is right there like it makes a difference to the rest of the empty ship
LOL!!! Just thinking the same thing.
@@ipponyc Taking a ship to red alert does more than change the color of the lights, systems get put into different modes than they otherwise would have been in, some stuff gets switched on, some stuff switched off to transfer power.
I agree that red alert activates all other kinds of defense systems and conditions of the ship and not just alert a crew shipwide
Poor old Enterprise. She had nothing left to give, and despite her sorry state she STILL nearly took out a Bird of Prey.
This movie was so underrated. Episodes 2, 3, and 4 make my favorite film trilogy. If you pretend 5 does not exist and go straight to 6, it was an incredible run.
This exactly. As much as I grew to appreciate The Motion Picture in my later years, this is how I tell my friends to watch them. Considering how garbage most of new Star Trek has been, (although so far, so good on SNW) I'll never not have love in my heart for the classic TOS movies. Shit, I'd rather watch Star Trek 5 once a week over all of Discover and Picard just once and only once. Maybe an unpopular opinion, but The Undiscovered Country is my fave
@@montessaurus I did like Generations as the transition film too. 2,3,4,6,Generations is pretty solid.
@@montessaurus Can not watch new Star Trek. The original was the greatest.
@@operasinger2126 👍Yep
Personally, whenever I do a marathon of the Star Trek movies, I never leave out the ones that everyone says are bad. The motion picture itself definitely isn’t perfect, but it has something about it that makes it impossible for me to leave out of a marathon. And as for 5, I honestly don’t hate it. I think it’s genuinely a fun movie to sit through. This is just me personally though.
I think this is far and away the best-edited Star Trek movie they ever made.
I didn't expect to take us into combat. Why the hell not?
Becuz it was just supposed to be a quick trip to Genesis & Scotty didn't have much time to get her ready. They also had no idea the Klingons would be there.
Because they did not expect to run into Klingons. All they were doing was borrowing the Enterprise from Starfleet, not fire of the Excelsior or another Starfleet vessel. I doubt that Kirk would have ordered Chekhov or Scotty to fire on a fleet vessel, or risk injuring Starfleet personal.
@@coolcat6303 because Scotty was reassigned to the Excelsior, he would've had to do everything to both ships in his free time.
Jesus Christ!! Old School Star Trek builds more tension in this one scene than ALL of the Star Wars trilogy!!
Yes, it was intense.
Doc Brown from Back to the future playing a Klingon.
Ignatowski!
Lol Dr. Emmett Kruge
@@MovieMax1701
Judge Emmett K. Doom
The most underrated trek film ever.
"This is heavy, Doc!" LOL
@MrHoppers002 The ship was automated by Mr. Scott to make it flyable with a sub-skeleton crew. With the idea that only basic functions like propulsion and warp were needed for their mission. Once they went into combat, it overloaded the system.
He's the doc from back to the future
Kirk: see that energy distortion that looks exactly like a cloaked Klingon ship?
Sulu: ah, that's nothing...
Keep in mind a bird of prey, even the scout version (there is a larger cruiser version as well) is one armored SOB. Its meant to take some pounding before suffering severe damage. Also, dont know what detonaton yeild those torpedoes where set to either. And since scotty didnt expect combat, they may have been just low yeild.
John Laroquette "I do not deserve to live" loved him as Dan Dan fielding (lol the episode of him lost in the arctic) on night court ;)
2:03 In every board game, card game and video game I have ever played in my life, this has been me waiting for my big moment....and at 2:32 this is what usually happens to me.
Taken in space with you rescuing your son and best friend.
Kirk killed his -dog- targ. This is only going to get worse before it gets better.
Tanall Klingon mutt
And kruges vessel blew up the USS grissom
If kruge was so worried about his targ maybe he should have left it home
John Wick likes this....
" PUT HIM ON SCREEN". BRILLIANT
I like how quickly Kirk responded to the Klingons decloaking in front of them. but that glory didn't last very long.
I love Star Trek III. I consider it to be the best 'odd-numbered' Film of the Series and even better than most even-numbered ones. Its surely not perfect, but... hard to describe, but STIII has an Epic, almost 'Operatic' Feeling about it few ST-Films (or Episodes, for that matter) have.
The odd number thing is a myth. TMP is different. It's slow. It's thoughtful. It's not very fun, but it's gorgeous to look at, mysterious, frightening, and to call it a bad movie is unfair.
The middle three are all excellent, different movies that tell one story. 6 is a perfect send off.
Star Trek 5 sucks. And that's okay. 5/6 is a pretty good hit rate.
1:35 He's saying: "Don't fuck this up, or ELSE."
That was in the PG-13 version, I bet.
Yup, we saw what happens to the "lucky shot" guy
"Say the wrong thing Torg!"
His new gunner was smart to follow orders. The last one disobeyed a direct order from Kruge to disable the engines to take USS Grissom hostage and blew the whole thing up. Then he attempted to make excuses for himself by claiming it to be "a lucky shot" that got him killed
Dude, in the _Star Trek_ movies, the Klingon villains were *_IT!_* They freakin' ruled
I love this scene where the music and the scene bulids this tension up knowing that one will be worse than the other
The O.G. Klingon Bird of Prey...the first starship you saw face off against Enterprise and realise that Enterprise might actually be in trouble. Especially when it's hit with TWO photon torpedoes and SHRUGS IT OFF.
It looks like a part predator, part ornate bladed weapon, and is practically dripping weapons.
One wonders if Chris Roberts was inspired by this ship for some of his designs for the Kilrathi.
00:06 - I love that subtle smirk on David's face, when he hears Kirk's voice.
If only he knew that the Enterprise was jury rigged with no intention of handling combat.
I always felt like the actor playing david could've played a young Anakin Skywalker. that smirk reminds me so much of Anakin.
Man I always loved the score for this scene....
Love how Kirk keeps shields down to bait the Klingons.
except that it wasn't really a ruse....the Enterprise took serious damage in the last movie.....damage that was still visible on the hull in this movie...so it comes as no surprise that the Enterprise only had power enough for one sucker punch before everything shorted out
Neal X I interpreted it as they had power for weapons, or power for shields, but not both in the ship's condition. If she had a full crew and had fewer damaged systems, or no damage at all as Kruge said, they outgunned the Bird of Prey and could have easily overpowered it.
But with the battle damage and the reliance on the limited automation system- which Scotty hadn't rigged for combat as he wasn't expecting it- they really didn't have much chance against the Klingons.
*sigh* There is literally nothing to interpret, just listen to the damn dialogue of the movie... McCoy says: "no shields?" in a questioning tone - Kirk answers "if my guess is right they have to decloak before they can fire"
Do I really have to spell out to you what this means? Kirk CAN put the shields up but he purposefully gambles not to, banking on the free shot he gets while the BoP decloaks. If he put the shields up, the Klingons would immediately know they had lost the element of surprise.
This is something I would have figured would be obvious.
@@NealX Just like Kirk did in the TOS episode " Journey to Babel"!!!!!
darn, you didn't get that great shot of enterprise closing to planet
Fun fact, originally it was supposed to be Romulans manning the Bird of Prey. But they decided at the last second to go with the Klingons since they were more the popular alien. They were considering creating a new ship for the Klingons, but decided to still use the BOP they had already built due to budget restraints.
Then they had a middle ground story, where the Bird of Prey was a stolen warbird, stolen by Kruge and his unit to recover the Genesis information the Romulans intercepted, using it to destroy a romulan fleet in the process.
"....at my command" because Kruge realised his ship's crewed by morons 🤣🤣
Christopher Lloyd was a great Klingon.
Awwww. . . the lizard, dog, rat thing got fried . .!
The Klingon calling out the distance to target is played by John Larroquette (of Night Court fame).
"No manual override?! Nice going, Scotty!"
I always say, if the Federation would quit putting explosives in their electronics they'd eliminate 90% of their problems.
But Christopher Lloyd is unquestionably the best Klingon ever. He is so totally committed to every role.
"Range, 2000 Kellicams!"
"Why are you whispering?"
Christopher Loyd is phenomenal in this movie.
Remember.... they had to hand paint the rotoscoping matte frame by frame just to have one spaceship appear. All the CGI in the world can't beat that talent.
Always loved that fire from the Enterprise at 2:31. With the music it was so epic!
Especially when you see she has to fire from her right torpedo bay. Thanks Khan.
I can't give it any more power, captain.
Where we're going, we don't need roads. Qapla'!
Jim Ignatowski...he couldn't drive a cab. He's commanding a starship?!!!!
Jim: "What does a yellow light light meean?"
Bobby: "Slow down."
Jim: "Okay. What... does... a... yellow... light... mean... ?"
🤣
I still don't get why Kirk didn't simply fire at the distortion. How many times did the crew encounter cloaked enemy vessels in the past? Wouldn't they have recognized that?
Of course, Cmdr. Uhura knew this, but she wasn't on board. :)
when under cloak the ship actually is protected by an energy field.
Because while he could see the distortion with his eyes, there was nothing for the sensors to lock onto. He would have had to guess the range, bearing, speed and course of the Klingon ship. The smart play was to wait for it to de-cloak and then lock onto it and fire on it the moment it de-cloaked.
🖖😎👍Very cool one of my all time favorite scenes indeed!.