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6:00 WARNING! Hi velocity ejecting SSD
At first I thought it was a zip drive!
@@baroncalamityplus Why would he use that though? Would only fit with one of his Emulation machines or retro builds.
@@infidelgermany That's why I was confused as well for a second. I haven't seen a zip drive in a decade.
@@baroncalamityplus I have never seen one in person. So theres that x'D
when I was small, I loved playing with the floppy like that, and watching how far a floppy disk could fly)
Everybody is talking "retro" computers. It's my daily driver and I'm perfectly happy with it. Granted I only play mincraft on it, and use it mostly for browsing, and youtube. Thanks for the review!
It is a good PC if You have it already, but not worth it if You planing to buy it now.
(and sorry for my english, I'm russian)
FX is totally fine to use if it does everything you need. There's no reason to desire something "better" when there is no real difference to end user.
Still on an FX-8350 myself. I see little return in switching to Ryzen now, but it will eventually happen. Until then I will play around with cheap i7/Xeon CPUs.
My wifes old computer is a FX-8350 Black Edition and she loves it. Thank you for your video. Peace 👍👍
Your wife likes a black edition, theres a surprise.
@@Synthematix ......
Dont sweat the overclocker's comments, overclockers by nature tend to be elitist. You have always stated that you dont like to overclock, but you did so you could show the results to your viewers. Thank you for that!
@Manimé Yes Jay is very much about Overclocking and Liquid cooling to the extreme, and in that respect hes a good content creator IMO. I watch Jay to keep up with the latest news about computer tech and see what goofy shit hes doing, again IMO hes the best one for me to watch about that subject.
14:55 "Best Battlefield ever"
Youre my man. 2142 is what I play to this day.
With regard to overclocking comments, @PhilsComputerLab remember this is RUclips comments, where everyone knows better than everyone about everything. 😄
I’m using an FX 8350 and it’s serving me well but I don’t play particularly up to date games, I’m almost entirely a retro gamer on PC.
You're wrong there, I for one know less than you about some things.
... wait a minute ...
@@waltherstolzing9719 LOL! 😄
I use a FX 6300 with a GTX 1050 2GB and its still enough for many modern games (some with tweaks) :)
I want to get a FX 8350.. But we have a run on these since 1-2 years in germany (the ebay-price went from 50-70 euros to 120+euros).
Julian Schlüter prices here in the U.K. are shooting up too. Last year an FX 8350 would have cost £60 - £65 and now we’re looking at around £100 but retro hardware is up in price generally. Hopefully prices will come down again. 😊
Braiteyy yeh, it’s much more of a 4 core 8 thread CPU but from that perspective (with right MoBo & cooler) it’s a strong performer.
I used to have a FX6300 and loved it!!! At the time it was partnered with a KFA2/GALAX GTX980 HOF ( Hall Of Fame Card ). It literally powered though anything you chucked at it. CPU clocked at 5 GHZ under a custom water cooling.
thats a hell of a bottle neck for a 980
@@engelnym8566 And large amount of power and heat for less performance than a sandy bridge i5.
@@kirbyswarp yeah i used 8320 for 5 years loud and hot
the phenom iis and i3s beat them in performance and power consumption
Love mine too,since 2012, and paired with a fineky 660ti @ 900p
Thanks for doing some value/used videos! Something you can hardly find these days.
I've got a 6300 paired with a GTX 1650 and it's pretty good!
I love videos like this. Some of us don't need bleeding edge.
Great vid, glad to see FX CPUs doing something other than gather dust. As games get more multi-threaded, FX seems to be aging like a budget wine.
I would love to see a video about a Windows XP retro gaming PC with those FX processors. This sounds like the perfect candidate combinate to a retro friendly GPU.
Funny you mention under-volting. I picked up a cheap Phenom II X4 CPU and motherboard to build a console emulator machine. Under-volted and under-clocked it, and saved a few watts for no noticeable performance loss.
I think you don't really need to underclock... Here I under-volted n' overclocked my FX and it is stable.
But i'm using a 120mm fan that besides cooling the processor also helps the vrm.
I'm still rocking an FX-8350 CPU, and it does make me happy to see people benchmarking and talking about the platform. Great video!
I need a fx 8350 but it costs 100€ ... fuuuu I have a phenom II x4 965
@@Erryjet Incidentally, I also got the FX-8350 to replace a Phenom II X4 965 back in the day. I've paid about €50 for it in a clearance sale, so it was a very lucky find. Maybe you should try your luck in second hand shops that take recycled computers?
Wraith yeah maybe... but sadly in my country those things are not very diffused 😬
Planning to buy FX8300 what graphic card is the best partner for this like I need atleast 2gb of vram
@@dannib8416 I use an RX570 8GB with the FX-8350, but I'm not sure it's not bottlenecked somewhere, but since it works well, I didn't really care to do tests.
He just Yeeted a SSD @ 6:00 O.O
LOL
That was hilarious when it shot out!
SSD durability!!
Ejecto SSD
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Left or right sata cables can really come in handy when you have a graphics card that covers them up. They usually have a low enough profile that they can fit underneath.
The only "problem" these cheaper boards have is that you can't use the top-end FX chips. And if you can, you shouldn't, as the VRMs are not up to it. These boards, including this one, are essentially an older AM2+ platform jury-rigged to support AM3 and later AM3+. Hence also the lack of SATA3 and such. Back in the day, you heard a lot that people upgrading their Phenom II X4/X6 to an FX 8 had performance issues, which was 100% because they had boards like this. For FX 6 chips like you used, it was and is indeed a great value
True, but here I am using the cooler stock of a Phenom II X4 but with a 120mm fan, with that the vrm receives cooling and that kept things stable over here even in overclocking.
Man you absolutely right
I want your ssd gun🤣😂
@@shaurz Pass auf, nächste Folge verschießt Jörg SSDs. Oder zumindest alte Festplatten... xD
@@BastetFurry sorry I don't speak wiener.
@@dialupdave6276 this isnt wiener this was soft-german
I had an FX6300 and a R9 270X and I used to play witcher 3 back in the day... Here I am now in 2020 replaying Witcher 3 on a Ryzen 1600AF and 1080ti. We think we NEED so much. Wish I had just kept my old system and saved my money. Granted I'm playing max 1440p 75hz instead of medium 1080p 60hz, but eh who really cares?
Keep bringing us those budget options and those reality checks!
I really like this post by you Beastykato. It is the post of the day for me. NEED vs want .... So many people have such a backlog of games including me that could be played on far less, cheaper systems and instead of playing games they just hardware hunt for no reason. Now for me I need it as a hobby to stay barely sane lol but yes you make a great point.
I have M5A78L/USB bought in 2012 and im using it to this day. My first processor on that mb was Athlon II X3 with unlocked working 4th core (but not L3 cache). Now I'm using FX-6350 Black Edition OCed to 4,4Ghz. I noticed that OC of my FX mostly improve heat generation (using Arctic Cooling Freezer 7) but not much performance. But now im thinking about moving to Ryzen 2600 or 3600 or i5 9400F.
I think that this motherboard tends to increase a lot of vcore if it is not configured manually, in addition to heating the vrms causing loss of performance, maybe an undervolting coupled with overclock improves this, it worked here.
I built a pc back in the day when the fx 8350 just came out. It worked fantastic and all i did was game on it. I couldn't have been happier with it.
Hey Phil! Amazing Video man! I Built a similar system, I opted for the 760G Chipset and a fx 4350 . I paired it with a GT 740 just as my Home theater PC/console gaming PC. and even with all the shade around FX based systems i really enjoyed using the system. I used this system for about 5-6 years as my main pc. I payed 90$ second hand and included case, CPU, mobo , ram , 500GB hd and 500gb SSD(boot). Really great value for money in my own opinion. I Recently obtained a Red dragon rx 570 4GB for 40$ on a local marketplace, and it really was a nice upgrade for the system. I've had my own fun overclocking , gaming, and even watching some youtube videos. Regarding overclocking i hit 4.6ghz on my fx 4350 stable (even gaming) . And the whole bottle-necking the GPU i don't believe its an issue depending on the title. But i did run this rx 570 in an 8th gen i5 and of-course with generational improvements you will see ALOT higher proformance, Again at a higher cost. Im really pleased with my FX system . It chugs along with my biggest and baddest gaming rigs i have built.
The BIOS boot screen captures are (Amazing) I have never seen any better anywhere. Pure joy.
I recently got a whole gaming computer for free from some random guy a town over from me. Has a fx 6350 and a gtx 660. I switched the psu out with my brand new corsair 650w and switched the gtx out for my club 3d hd 7950 3gb gddr5 card. Works good. Sadly only have a stock cooler for my fx cpu so no oc until I get a new cooler. Great vid.
Been running the PLUS version of this board for years, with an FX 8320. Absolute beast of a board, and still kicking after 6+ years. Only downside to these boards, is the lack of VRM cooling, just buy some copper heatsinks and stick them bad boys on there. Overclocked the 8320 to stock 8350 settings, and paired with a 980ti. You can easily play max 1080p/2k.
Yet again, somehow I have almost exactly this motherboard. Great minds think alike, I guess!
I use an FX-4300 in mine, and a GTX-560Ti - for XP games. Only computer I've had that will run modded midtown-madness-2 without stuttering when you're flying across the map at 500mph.
G'day Phil,
Wow the RX570 works really well with a FX6300, there was a lot less stuttering than I was expecting,
I still have my FX6300 in a Gigabyte 78LMT-USB3 Rev. 5.0 with 16GBDDR3 RAM,
P.s. good to see your hands are looking a lot better 😁🤲
"Cheapest" and "from China" are definitely 2 terms you never want in the same sentence =D
Ok kid 🤡🤡
I had an FX-4200, which is the only true quad-core in the entire Bulldozer lineup. It's basically an FX-8100 with the second core in each module disabled, so it doesn't have the resource-sharing issues of the other models. At the same clock speed, it outperforms the FX-4300 and all of the newer FM2 CPUs by a considerable amount in multi-threaded workloads. Its biggest drawback is the low clock speed, so you really need to overclock to get the most out of it, which requires a good motherboard due to its 125 W TDP (since it's based on an 8-core).
Hmm that is very interesting...
The FX-4300 on all the pc related message boards had the FX-4300 as the cpu not to buy. It ran bloody hot and the FX-6300 was just a better value.
I bought one from AliExpress, that chip interests me, first time I heard about this one actually :D
A lot of AM3+ boards have great Windows XP and XP x64 support. A great way to keep mid-2000s games running and running well.
But single core speed sucks so it isnt that great
@@spacy9571 That's only if you compare single core speeds with the Intel's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 6th gen platforms. Bulldozer in a vacuum wasn't a bad CPU, it was just not as good as the Intel platform for those games at the time. Bulldozer is still a better CPU with better IO support than preceding CPUs like the Core 2 Quad series, Athlon II X4, Athlon 64, Pentium D. You want a CPU with really bad single core speeds? Get Netburst, found in Pentium D and Pentium 4 CPUs.
Right now, if you can get one for a good price, it makes a killer XP system.
Yea you can use a dual core Phenom II or Athlon II and works great with Windows XP.
@@MarcoGPUtuber it wont run 'well' you can obviously see crysis runs like total crap, core 2 duo series have better ipc than this
@@spacy9571 Crysis is a poorly optimised game that doesn't run well on ANYTHING except hardware built 10 years after the game was released. And it runs on Windows 7 and Windows 10. If you wanna run Crysis well. There are great Kaby Lake platforms that work just fine for cheap but they don't run Windows XP. Not only that, it is the most extreme example.
But if you're looking for something that runs games in general from a wide variety of years from 2001 to 2015, then this platform runs well. Trust me. Games like Battlefield 1942 and STALKER are more than happy to play nice with the FX series with a GTX 580.
Seeing 2142 made me subscribe thank you so much for that trip down memory lane.
I have exactly the same board. I bought it when it first came out. Only issue I had was the onboard sound, which was never good and it eventually died. I have 8G and the same processor. Glad I did something right- I went for a GT710. I don't do any gaming.
Not bad. I just threw together an older Phenom II 1090t Black Edition build with a used Motherboard from Ali Express. Had the CPU & 16 Gigs of DDR laying around for a while now. It was a little dirty & I needed to flash the bios twice to get rid of a Booting Issue where it randomly didn't post & would give the DMI Pool Data error at boot. I kept trying every setting I could think of to get it to boot until I decided to flash it a second time.
Destiny 2 is free, I would be interested to see how this sort of machine handles D2. Thanks for the great vids.
d2 runs great on my rig with the fx 8300 and rx 580 i get well over 6o fps on max gfx .. ( i think around 80 fps or so or more it's been a min) ..
Dauntless is free too (i just started playing it a couple weeks ago and I'm at level 15 with 380 power and 340 defense)
It will run great. I was able to get destiny 2 running on a potato.
Well said Phil!!! everyone can criticise that you dont know how to OC, but talk is cheap and easy, no one give an help... I love those overclockers in the couch... Keep the good work that you have done and ignore those guys.... I would like to ask you to do a video using VIA C3 (800Mhz or near speed)and skt 370. Try to slowdown this baby to 386 and run it at full speed to see the coverage of a system like that. I think that is a good replacement of k6+ that are so expensive...
Many thanks!!
Dont diss that motherboard I been using that board for 6 yrs and its outlived 3 processors and 3 graphics cards and does me just fine :)
Since your asking about overclocking every platform is different for fx specificly the two clocks you want to focus on are core and Northbridge for the purposes of a quick overclock for a video it's probably just best to stay to the multipliers as playing with the fsb adds complication.
-On fx you want your max temp to be 75*c or less
-For vcore on a good motherboard 1.5v is safe but you'll probably run in to tempture limits before hand
-For cpu nb 1.35v is safe this should get you to arround 2600mhz
-On latter model fx 4.5 post 2013 should come pretty easy 1.35-1.4v but as always this isn't guaranteed
- ocing the HT link is only useful if your running multiple GPUs even then the impact is very minimal. it is also really hard to test for stability, its best just to set between 2200-2400 and forget.
In the fx scene Intel burn test with 10 passes at very high is considered stable there are also some custom settings for prime 95 but for the purpose of a video this may be a bit extreme ( also watch out for the vrm temptures as fx draws alot of power adding some airflow to the area is not a bad idea)
If your looking for more info for fx the best place is the 8350/8320 owners thread on overclockers.net
The X58 platform is much like fx with focusing on uncore and cpu frequently and most chips are not unlocked so you'll have to overclock using reference clock and step down multipliers
But for every Intel consumer cpu it's pretty much set multipliers to target raise voltage till stable.
Ryzen the biggest focus is the ram (expessialy in zen 1 chips infinity fabric clock is 1/2 ram speed)as core is almost guaranteed to get to 3.8-4ghz a useful tool for helping with this is
www.overclock.net/forum/13-amd-general/1640919-new-dram-calculator-ryzena-1-6-2-overclocking-dram-am4-membench-0-8-dram-bench.html#/topics/1640919?page=1
Best of luck.
@@icedoutshef 70
@@icedoutshef www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/fx-6300
@@icedoutshef I guess I should have disclamerd that AMD's max safe temp varies greatly depending on what chip.
After monitoring years of data form the fx 8350 overclockers club I've settled on 75 c absolute max safe temperature under stress test aplacarions and a few other people have come to that conclusion. but also with the max safe voltage being 1.55 I know that more than a handful will go over that if they have the cooling to and have yet to noticed any I'll effects years on.
75*c is my stress test temptures on my 2 fx (8350 pre 2013 chip 8320 post 2013 chip )systems both have cycled in and out of daily use for the past 6 years and they still hold the same overclock as the day I got them.
Also if you've ever used a 6100 with a stock cooler at stock clocks 70*c + gaming isent unreasonable. This was noticed with a open air system at 25* ambient.
But if you want to be really safe I'll leave these quotes from the stilt who is one of the most knowledge public facing people on the fx platform he also holds the world record for highest cpu clock.
The Stilt
Mar 22, 2015 at 8:37 am
Indeed, if forgot the specify the limits for the "socket temperature" (SBI-TSI).
These are the official AMD specifications.
AM3+ / TDP (Infra Code)
220W (FH) - 57.0°C
125W (FR) - 61.1°C
95W (WM) - 70.5°C
FM2+ / TDP (Infra Code)
95W (XB) - 72.0°C
65W (YB) - 71.2°C
These temperatures only apply at stock power levels.
At higher power dissipation they are naturally lower.
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Best regards
Roger
(also from the Stilt)
Based on my personal experience on hundreds of different AMD 15h parts; the overclocking capabilities of these chips generally start to show significant retardation when the "socket temperatures" (SBI-TSI) exceed 60°C. At this point the "package temperature" (tCTL control value) can be anything between 45 - 65 units. The tCTL value is calculated based on several values and one of it´s calculation parameters (power scalar) varies between different TDP and leakage level parts. The "package temperature" (tCTL) is not an actual temperature which is a reason I refer it as units instead of degrees.
The official specifications from AMD tend to agree with my experiences.
125W TDP FX parts are rated for 62°C (SBI-TSI) maximum temperature at stock settings.
The maximum "package temperature" (tCTL) is 70 units on all AMD FX CPUs (AMD specification)
In higher temperatures the leakage currents will increase even further and the thermal conductivity will reduce as well.
Lower thermal conductivity will make it yet harder to remove the heat from the CPU core.
151.1W/m-K @ 20°C
142.7W/m-K @ 40°C
134.3W/m-K @ 60°C
125.9W/m-K @ 80°C
SBI-TSI temperature is available on all motherboards as implementing it is mandatory.
This is also the temperature which the bios displays.
Generally there are two major manufacturers (ITE & Nuvoton) for the LPC/IO ICs which are used to read the SBI-TSI information from the CPU.
They are very well supported by most of the hardware monitoring applications atleast for the temperature part.
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Best regards
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Short article on transistor aging where where all pretty much guessing anyway.
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higher temperatures means more voltage at given clock which means higher temperatures this is a pontical reason for the stock temperature figures trying to pull down power consumption at stock clocks.
As always take the information provided and forum your own opinions.
@@icedoutshef your not nessissarily wrong it's your choice
what's safe for you, we are all running outside specifications anyway. As the stilt says package temp should be less with more power. That is a very good oc out of a 8300 no less. Most 8300 and e chips from what I remember are low leakage (verry good clock/volt) but hit a wall at 4.7/4.8.
If you don't mind me asking what cooling are you running on your rig?
I have read that FX-8350 max temp is 65C... or was it 62C, while FX-6300 and many oth FX-series CPUs is 75C
And that info is from AMD site and some other places too.
In short from reason(s) x, that FX-8350 doesn't like heat.
I had this Mainboard in my first own PC and it was actually quite okay, especially considered for the price. I had paired it with a FX 6300 and a GTX 1050ti.
But I noticed some disadvantages. First of all, the positioning of all the ports was pretty well thought through, but the problem is just PCIe 2.0 and SATA 2 and the lack of USB 3.0
Furthermore the amount of I/O Ports is not that much and thesSingle 3 Pin fan connector with limited Speed Controller in the BIOS was anoying as well
Yea it's quite a budget board. You can get a USB 3 PCIe controller, but stuck with SATA 2.
I've been running an fx processor for probably 8 years now. Originally built with a 4000 series processor because people told me games wouldn't use more than 4 cores...but I soon upgraded to an 8000 series and gained a ton of fps. I was very limited on cpu performance even though I was only using an amd r7 390 graphics card at the time.
Howdy! Thanks for the vid! Still using my 8320e here! No issues!
However, I am curious, if you could start using Passmark scores in your video's? That's the score I know for CPU performance and GPU performance. If not thats totally fine! I'm guessing I just need to learn the other scores too, hah!
yep i got a 8320 and its a champ
8320 oced at 4.3 ghz with rx 580,its just perfect
FX 6300 and 8320E are best Vishera Cpu's from am3+...For having a IMC and IPC slightly faster compared to the 8350 and 8370.
Heck, my main build right now is a FX-8350 with a 970 chipset Gigabyte board paired with a GTX1070. I was running the FX-6300 for the longest time, but wanted a slight upgrade and found that NewEgg was selling off their NIB FX-8350s on Ebay last year for $60 shipped. Got $30 for my old FX-6300. Then got an email forwarding me information about the AMD FX class action, and put in for that. XD Not bad for two extra threads and 4ghz clock.
I have the lx3 version running an 8320e at 3.6ghz, 1.1v (massive aftermarket heatsinks over and behind the vrms). Can run for weeks straight at full load without an issue. I upgraded that system to a 1700 because sata 2 got annoying and 16gb of ram isn't enough.
I never managed to get it to idle that low, might be because of the hard drives.
is a Asus m5a78m :DDD i using this with a phenom ii x4 955 BE C3 @3.5ghz 1.4v, xfx 7770 and 8gb Kingston fury 1866mhz.
...yes, 95w tdp motherboard and 125w tdp cpu with a soft overclock… from 2011 until now
I use a FX8350 on an ASUS board with a GTX670. The FX runs a bit hot, so a decent cooler is advised. I do not overclock.
Until I got a FX8320 and the mobo it came with (hand-me-down), I was using this mobo with a FX6100 paired with a GTX 960 that I also received as a hand-me-down. It's a nice PC. Since I mostly play fighters, it performs quite nicely. Now it's an office PC in another room in my house, still ready to game when I need it.
Cool!! I've been using this motherboard since 2012 in my main PC. Started with fx4300, later upgraded to 6300. It's a nice capable machine, and it also supports Windows XP!!! I will eventually set it up for dual boot to use as my overkill xp machine .
I love it a lot. I don't care that it's not the best thing out there, but it has definitely aged well in my opinion (you definitely showed that with this video!)
I for sure want to make a Windows XP Video using a FX CPU :)
Yeah, I had an FX6300 in a previous build I sold, it was on a MSI 970 krait AM3+ motherboard, it ran great at 4.5ghz with a push-pull hyper212 and 1866mhz 4x4gb RAM, got 540cb/106cb on cinebench R15, so about the same performance as a Ryzen 1200 / 1300 / 2200G
Thats the board im using now! Im using it with an fx-6300 at 4.4Gghz 20C idle
not to mention 240mm AIO for the cooler. runs any game I through at it. my GPU a gtx 660 NEEDS an upgrade :)
@@PrisonYT you got it to 4.4? I think this boosts to 4.3? Is it just boosting to 4.4 or so or somehow you got this board to OC? I thought Phil mentioned in the video OCing was out of the question. Anyway as for an AIO cooler that would be fun and as for having one in my son's pc he always said no as he wanted either true water cooling or nothing. He hates how you can't see the water. LOL!
I had the LX3 version of this mobo when I had my Phenom X3, such a nice mobo.
I also have this MB using a repurposed AMD FX-6200 I already had. Knowing it's a 125W TDP processor I added a Deep Cool Gammaxx 400 cooler but currently using the internal Graphics (not gaming obviously). Using an existing 500GB SSD with Linux Mint 19.3 and it's a great solution for web browsing, emails, and the like daily use. I did put it in a Deep Cool Tesseract SW case so I could use an Optical Drive.
This is a great video. Thank you for your time and effort.
My second pc have mobo sabertooth r2, fx 8320, 16gb ddr3 2133mhz, and EVGA gtx 780 works great for retro use and some fun..
I had an FX 6300 @ 4,2 Ghz on my "ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0" and everything run fine.
Now I had an FX 8320E @ 3,8 Ghz.
Great video, any chance on doing a AM2 review? Been handed a Athlon 3800+ and wondering what I can do with it...
A lot of bang for your buck with these FX chips. Though once I have the extra money I will be upgrading my system to a Ryzen 5, where the single thread performance is double that of the FX chips, which should help immensely in the games that are heavily CPU bound and/or are poorly optimized.
Interesting to see you can get am3 motherboards for cheap from China. Would be interested to see the cost vs a Sandy bridge, ivy bridge, or haswell based systems. Personally back in the day I decided to get a i5 4690 instead of a fx based system. Comparing them and how they have aged would be cool.
i had FX process for years, i had a good experience with it...
I wish more games were optimized as well as Strange Brigade, Apex Legends, and Overwatch.
I picked up a M5A99FX Pro 2.0 and an fx 6300 for $30 a few months back . Hell of a deal for a side pc/high end xp build .
Hi Phil, or whatever your name is, I am your fan #1 from Chile and the universe, I love your videos and I touch me when I see them (lie), well, I recommend you to pay close attention to these high-performance and low consumption Xeon processors:
Xeon E3-1220LV2 (2012) : 2.30 GHz - 3.50 GHz, 3 MB Cache, 17w
Code Name : Ivy Bridge
Cores/Threads : 2-4
Max Memory Size : 32 GB
Memory Types : DDR3 1333/1600
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCLGA1155
Xeon E3-1220L (2011) : 2.20 GHz - 3.40 GHz, 3 MB Cache, 20w
Cores/Threads : 2-4
Max Memory Size : 32 GB
Memory Types : DDR3 1066/1333
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCLGA1155
Xeon E-2254ML : 1.7 GHz - 3.5 GHz, 8 MB Cache, 25w
Code Name : Coffee Lake
Cores/Threads : 4-8
Max Memory Size : 64 GB
Memory Types : DDR4-2666
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCBGA1440
Xeon E-2276ML : 2 GHz - 4.2 GHz, 12 MB Cache, 25w
Code Name : Coffee Lake
Cores/Threads : 6-12
Max Memory Size : 64 GB
Memory Types : DDR4-2666
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCBGA1440
Xeon E3-1265LV4 (2015) : 2.30 GHz - 3.30 GHz, 6 MB Cache, 35w
Cores/Threads : 4-8
Max Memory Size : 32 GB
Memory Types : DDR3 and DDR3L 1333/1600/1866 at 1.5V
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCLGA1150
Xeon E3-1565LV5 (2016) : 2.50 GHz - 3.50 GHz, 8 MB Cache, 35w
Cores/Threads : 4-8
Max Memory Size : 64 GB
Memory Types : DDR3L,LPDDR3 1600MHz, DDR4 2133MHz at 1.2V
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCBGA1440
Xeon E-2286M : 2.4 GHz - 5.0 GHz, 16 MB Cache, 45w
Cores/Threads : 8-16
Max Memory Size : 32 GB
Memory Types : DDR4-2666, LPDDR3-2133
Max # of Memory Channels: 2
Max Memory Bandwidth : 41.8 GB/s
ECC Memory Supported : Yes
Sockets Supported : FCBGA1440
Interesting. I buy from Ali express too but I can't seem to find am3+ CPUs cheap. I have an FX 4100 that needs replacing. I might look at the 6300 but I usually buy the 8350.. going into a gigabyte 970 board.. only for a backup of though.. 🤔
Just got a Asus board with a 990fx chipset, Gigabyte GTX 750ti OC and FX 6200 for free. Friend gave up trying to figure out how to OC it. I told him i'd show him but he's far more stubborn than I. He chucked it and built a used i7 8700 system.
I have an 8350 and 12gb DDR3 2000. Plan on putting the 8350 in that board. Already have the memory in it @2133 mhz.
I ran that FX 8350 as my main rig from 2015 to 2018 and it ran everything I threw at it... except anything that needed fast single core of course. Bone stock. I know it's a good bin, I OCed it with the stock cooler on a 970 board to 4.7 ghz for a month before I thought better about the longevity of the CPU and VRMs, however I know I can get more on the Asus board. But between the HD 7850, RX 480 8GB and GTX 1080 that it was paired with, it never gave me many issues. It was a good CPU as is the FX 6200. However that single core score and not wanting to spend an arm and a leg on a 990 board had me upgrade to an i7 3770/Intel DQ77MK combo that beats it in every way.
It's been 2 years since that and my GTX 1080 is starting to get old too, so this year I am saving to get a fully modern rig.
However these FX CPUs are nearly bulletproof and have survived a long time in the wild. Thank you for another great video.
i have one of these the overclocking can go straight to 2%-5%-8% and max 10% as opposed to screwing with everything. most mobos have their own distinct settings I don't mess with OCing until I've had a board for at least a month.
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Wie der Zufall es will habe ich gerade ein Asrock AM3+ Mainboard, eine FX 8350, einen CPU Kühler und 16 Gb Ram von einem Arbeitskollegen geschenkt bekommen.
Er hat es durch ein High End Intel System ersetzt.
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I freue mich auf das Folgevideo!
Nice test and really shows how good an old board and processor can do. I have a soft spot for the FX6300 as it was a cheap secondary PC to my main PC with a i5 3570K many years ago. Mine was easily clocked up to 4.4GHz on an ASrock pro motherboard and wasnt to much slower than the i5 3rd gen, but was much cheaper to build back in the day. Looks like its still a cheap budget build.
sry I have to say that now but on aliexpress the cpu is much too expensive.
and an intel cpu is twice as strong as amd cpu.
for example the Intel series from the 2nd generation and from the i5 2400 and higher or.
from the 3rd generation 3450 and higher. The Intel Cpu costs around 20 - 30 € and are 50% stronger
if you buy the cpu in your own country or via Ebay Europa.
aliexpress is no longer cheaper in all offers but sometimes even more expensive.
thanks anyway for your video, great work!
Would like to see these FXs working on a mb that only has beta support for FXs processors like the M4AGTDPRO for comparison and see if they loose to ones that have full support. Would love to get a 8core FX for my old GTD PRO.
Anyway, the performance seems great for something that only costs a bit over 100USD for MB/CPU/RAM but even more for me that would only need the FX.
Ty.
Roda perfeitamente os FX-83xx. Inclusive em overclock.
Hmmm.. someone gave me an fx 3850 2 years ago. Didn't have a board for it. Right on time video.
I think a great investment in a game for testing for your channel would be Red Dead Redemption 2. This game struggles on older CPUs so it would be interesting to see it as the “high end” game so to speak. Hopefully it goes on sale soon!
Thanks for including the x4 in the graphs, my friend has an x6 and this doesn't look like a proper upgrade for his needs.
I'm running the USB3 version of this MB with a Phenom II 1100T. Got it for $35 off eBay. Decent setup.
Nice video Phil! Would be great to see an "Ultimate PC by year" Series, 1995-2000 is a specially interesting era given the multiple options in CPUs and GPUs from manufacturers no longer in the market. Cheers!
Would have been interesting to see this combo compared to a sandy bridge or an ivy bridge i5, i7, xeon equivalent. They are also very cheap today, as are h61 and b75 boards.
I built a 6300 system with a radeon 480 Everything worked great games played well except Apex did this weird blurr when I moved the mouse couldn't fix it
I’m sure you checked, but motion blur is enabled by default and it’s at an insanely nauseating level... It may require restart to take affect.
Good to see AMD and their forward thinking instruction set inclusion proving that their Pile-driver chips aren't irrelevant yet
This mobo was a pain for me, couldn't update the bios, sata mode was not in legacy mode and I lost one day trying to figure why windows wasn't installing. The undervolting part is real tho, stock my fx 6300 was at 1.38v! I disabled turbo core too and set fixed 3.8ghz all core, with 1.25v.
Yea every board has its issues. Hmm AHCI SATA mode should work just fine.
had an fx 8350 with a 970 it was good combo and was enjoying it, but power consumption, heat and was struggling on some newer titles had to sell it super cheap 3 years ago and went with Ryzen.
Would love to get an 8300 for my old board but I'm afraid to buy a 2nd hand from aliexpress.
Isn't a ryzen 1200 better value? You can buy a combo for €100. You also get a cooler, only the ram is way more expensive.
Edit: the ryzen 1200 has around +40% single-thread performance, even in octa-core workloads it is roughly 15% faster...
This asus MB is similarity on mine. still working fine on me.
CPU: FX6300
RAM: 6GB Dual Channel DDR3
GPU: GTX 650Ti
Motherboard: M5A78L-M LX3
SSD: 120GB Kingston
HDD: 3.5 inch 1TB Seagate Barracuda
: 2.5 inch 500GB Western Digital BLUE
OS: Windows 10 home (x64) ver.1909
I think it would be very nice for you to enable the frametimes, the 1% and 0.1% on the MSI Afterburner OSD for us to analyze the latency of the games too, since in some instances, there are some microstutters and slowdowns.
As always, nice video!
Please do more videos on x58 xeons 😁😁😁😁
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Interesting! I have been buying and flipping W3520 workstations 4C8T with slow single core and think it would be pretty similar to this! Thanks! (UK 2nd hand Ebay cost around $100 US but with case and PSU and HDD and some memory)
About OC. Minimum memory speed for FX series is 1866. All overclocking barely gives anything with 1600. Soary)
A word of caution: the top PCIE 1x slot is often shared with things like the extra SATA ports and on some motherboards it causes a lot of strange problems.
nothing wrong with used components Athena My media server she is a mix of new and used components like the motherboard a MSI Z97S SLI Krait edition along with its CPU (Intel Core I5 4590), 32GB Patriot DDR3 ram i bought used while the cooler and the 2x2tb WD blue drives i had bought new while psu, 320gb WD blue (OS drive) was used from a previous build its been running for almost 2 years with very little downtime like very little power outages, blowing out dust or defective CPU cooler (supplied bracket for intel boards was defective)
I believe I have the same board but a newer revision that has two USB 3.0 ports at the back. Still no front panel header though. Not a bad board at all!
Edit: Mine also seems to have 4 dimm slots
Eh the whole point of these processors was to overclock them but honestly this CPU, still in my son's (on his own now) computer, does the job for so many games and yes would be good as an everyday doing simple tasks pc. As for the mentioning of ram yes my son's pc got a boost in overall performance when I added just another 4 GB of DDR3 ram for a total of 12 GB DDR3. About 1.5 years ago this had to be done as you clearly see some slowing down for some reason. Also for the regular user USB 2.0, if that is only what is on the board, is just fine. I will never pay more for a board just to get USB 3.0 or higher. Also got to say my budget build hobby got slowed to a crawl in 2019 as the price for motherboard when converting to the Canadian dollar just wasn't that great. I hope our dollar can make a darn recovery at some point. :S Great and fun video as always and as for you using a test bench man I badly need one. It is more practical than buying cases for every system and also one may just want to wait on an extremely good deal on a case and that can take some time. Finally got to say for someone that named their daughter after AMD for me to have no AMD systems in the house right now or even components this is just horrible. LOL!
I have the same board and Fx 8320e and it work very well with rx 470 4gb and 8gb Single Channel memory
Excellent! Admit it... You just have a weak spot for these FX chips Phil :)
BTW. I can understand that. The AM3+ has an advantage,as it can handle both XP and Win 7 + 10. With the AM4, there is no XP support. Maybe the AM3+ platform is the best low-budget XP(retro) + modern Win10 to use.
I stil. have a weak spot for the old LGA775 (but I'm done selling these as budget gaming rigs) I did snatch myself a QX6850 from the "Express" at the end of 2019 for just 20$. Perfect CPU for my High-End a Retro XP + Win 7 rig (Asus Striker Extreme - nforce 680i SLI with 2x GTX 285 + 4gb DDR2-800 cl4, 250 GB HDD for XP, + 250GB SSD for Win 7). And I got lucky with the silicon pick. It can run fine at stock 3 GHz speed at about 1.068V (keeps the temperature nicely down - and should make it last for many years more).I chose that CPU, because it is the best Quad that fits on a nforce 680i chipset. And OC'ing a quad on a nForce 680i is looking for troube. No worries... no games before 2015 require more than 3GHz Quad for smooth playing..
Only problem is, that when I use this occationally, I actually miss the Win 7 in daily use. It really was better than Win 10. Not all these messages popping up in the low right corner. And it use far less resources. Especially on the old LGA775 (with 4GB RAM), it performs better than WIn 10. Maybe the same is true on AM2 / AM3 systems as well.
my fx 8300 run 3.8ghz with FSB 231mhz. same volt 1.21V
Hi Phils,
I started to planning build retro Win 98 PC with - CPU: AMD Thunderbird 1.4 GHz, GeForce 3 Ti 200, RAM i will find without a problem but i have two questions for you.
I thinking to add yet Voodoo 2 or Voodoo 3 pci version, it's a pci slot but will be compactible with GeForce 3 Ti ? I want to build pc for games from 1997-2000 and also with Voodoo 2 for early games which supports only nglide rendering and end era of DOS games like Need for Speed SE, Duke Nukem 3d, etc.
Second question is - what Motherboard are you recommended for socket 462 ?
Is that the AC1200 USB wifi adapter from ebay? I use them in all my flip builds, very nice for the price.
Yea I think so!
As for how well the FX cpu performs, it would be interesting to compare minimum fps, average fps and frame-times (micro-stutter) with a generally more powerful cpu. I suspect the FX can't keep up in average fps but should have quite stable frame-times because it has (kind of) 6 cores. Would be interesting to compare this to a more powerful quad-core cpu at a title which is optimised for multi-threading.
Modern AMD Motherboards may differ in performance little but due to different things
For instance less devices requires less attention
And
Good power delivery will give cpu a bit more breathing room
Getting less onboard devices usually means worse power delivery so it is hard balance
Stock FX-6300 and using an RX 470 4gb, it works great for me.
In Germany this really isn't worth it. It is possible to buy a used B350 motherboard for very little money and a NEW Ryzen 3 1200 only costs 50€. The performance and the upgrading path are better.
chipset does actually affect the GPU performance from my experience the hyper transport and northbridge frequencies and allows for more gpu to be used when they are overclocked. also fsb over multiplier overclocking does more for single core speeds and memory bandwidth but is very difficult compared to multiplier because of mem controller lottery.... fx acts like pentiums from back in the day.... pump the fsb and crank the clocks and itll do work but at stock they are OK at best....
My son has this motherboard and cpu with 32gb ram, 512 ssd and gt1030 and he is able to play all the games out. Destiny 2 he gets over 60fps on high settings.
yea im kicking with the 8300 fx 16 gigs of ram ddr3 1600 mhz.. with a rx 580 8 gig and have no issues atm but yea one thing is true that the fx cpu makes a great heater .. my rooms in the basement so it all works out well .. only oc to 3.7 .. i could do more but i really dont see the point just to get like 3 to 5 more fps ..
You can actually get this to 32GB RAM.
I have used 64GB on Asus SaberTooth 990FX R2.0 (4x 16GB).
You can purchase such RAM on ebay, but it is not cheap (well it is 64GB in 16GB Dimms). There is only available