Yeah... kinda same... Do a full complete build with one of these Super Small Mobos and external GPU. Could you get it all to fit it an actual case? Could you make it smaller than a standard Mini-ITX?
ciredark pretty sure my super thin laptop (8750h and a 1070 outbenching overclocked 1070 desktop). Plus my laptop board will actually fit in a 15 inch diagonal measured 0.7 inch thick case (probably less, the outside dimension of my laptop without the screen is about 0.5 inch thick, or 13mm). My case of course has RGB keyboard included...
You pretty much nailed it when you said if you didn’t do it then who would. Always love seeing these cool videos. Always try to show them to my friends.
So you're just gonna get the same performance in a marginally smaller package. And you will still need a external power adapter mod if your 1650 doesn't have a PCI-e 6pin because the slot on the Udoo can't deliver enough power over the bus alone for these cards.
Heck yeah. Do a build comparison using only 75w slot power and power it all with the Pico PSU! That would be the ultimate build in my mind as it wouldn't need the external ATX PSU.
@@mikaelkabraelian8518 It has a little power pigtail that you plug into the M.2 adapter that supplies slot power. Not sure if it supplies a full 75w but it's there.
Thank you for sharing this. I am anxiously awaiting my Bolt V8 from the Kickstarter Campaign. I would like to see some links to the hardware you used in this build, especially the M.2 to PCIE adapter , PCIE X4 Riser, and 90 degree adapter. My Amazon search has left me confused and I would like to get something that works. Please show more videos about the pico power supply too.
Do it! I've had this exact project in mind since I backed UDOO's kickstarter ages ago! Still waiting for my V8 tho! I actually found your channel searching for the UDOO V8 some time ago :D
This is one of those “I’m doing this just because I can” videos and it’s awesome. Obviously not practical due to cost, but still awesome to see. Keep them coming ETAPrime.
Small powerfull gaming computers with low power consumption is why I come back to this channel. They are definately the future standard, so it is cool to see what can be done with the tech we have now. Great video and a good experiment. Keep up the great work 👍
the rx590 needs more power than a rx5700. so I was thinking that if you get a rx5700 you can undervolt and underclock it just around 100W, just enough for the picoPSU-160-XT 160w.
I always like it when you do these types of projects. Thanks so much for making the videos and explaining your results. Very interesting to see which games were CPU bound. I would LOVE to see you do a video with the 1650 if you get around to it
@@RmRoyalflush AMD is working great in linux its nvidia that cause some issues performance wise because nvidia didn't care about linux or linux gaming. i have rx570 with manjaro working amazingly
100% was going to say I wanted to see the form fitting no external power build before you mentioned it. That looks like it could be a fantastic little cube beast.
the pico PSU would be perfect. Maybe build a case/chassis along with it? In fact I believe a lot of people want cheap high performance itx PCs. So you could end up making a business out of it and reselling pre-built PCs. I would certainly buy it cuz of the size and price/performance ratio.
I see this as a powerful mobile pc/"laptop" and when got home connect to gpu with external and put in a highly cooled case box and you got everything you need
I'd like to see this with a 1650. Also, I think it would be cool to try to put this into a console case - e.g. Xbox 360 case or maybe it would even fit in a ps1 case. Just a thought :)
LowSpecGamer certainly knows some tricks to push performance with those boards, it's kinda his thing. Then again, the price performance ratio really isn't doing too well here. Still awesome to see something like that.
I love the aesthetic of the udoo bolt with the 1650 underneath. Tiny PC, as powerful as a modern console... One day they'll make x86 boards and dedicated GPUs in even smaller form factors, like handheld consoles.
I’m definitely interested in the build with the 1650, but I’m ESPECIALLY interested in how it would perform on emulation! Would it appreciably increase Citra, Cemu and RPCS3 performance?
I definitely want to see the gtx 1650 on that board! These are awesome setups that are so out of the ordinary but really cool to see running. You said it, if not for yourself no one would do this type of setup!
The card is gonna be blowing hot air straight onto the UDOO Bolt though :O maybe this would be a rare scenario where a reference design would actually come in handy, since the single fan on reference cards would be on the opposite corner of the card.
Please make the supertiny build with the 1650! that 590 was so cpu-bound due to bottlenecking that there might be very little performance drop, and with a 3d-printed box, steam in big picture mode and a controller you might end up with the coolest minuscule 1080p console ever!
I'd see that smaller build. With a modded mini pc case, or a 3d printed case, it'd be compact and actually make sense. Could mount it to the back of a TV, and have it as a gaming all in one. Stick on bigbox, a controller. Use to emulate more modern consoles dreamcast, ps2, game cube. Could probably also run some decent higher level 1080P decoding for media with the CPU. Also I love how rockstar gear their games to CPU. Means you can run them on integrated graphics with a decent CPU.
i really would like to take this setup and plug my oculus quest in it. that would be the ultimate vr rig for me since it only uses a simple usb c cable
@@marcfitzgerald8068 Wackywee its not optimized, it's a silly test. Don't spend money copying this. The 590 could saturate 4x pcie3, plus as you saw in CPU intensive games the Udoo is already not enough to take advantage of that GPU. Pair it with 100 bucks each of the fastest ram and GPU you can get your hands on and emulating those systems should be fine (especially if you get a good deal on used equipment), with some tinkering for specific titles native fps should be acheivable on all those emulated systems
This just gave me an idea for a super small NAS, with a 4 or 8 drive HBA via the PCIE adaptor... Seems to have more than enough power for home storage needs
I am thinking about building a gaming computer for my son and his new wife. They both love all the old PS games and I thought I'd surprise them. Would love to see different options ie best bang for the buck type things.
So much power for $750+ ? If I use that money maybe we have a better performance PC ? Hope to see this board cheaper in the future or at least as cheap as equal PC
@ETA PRIME The build I'd personally do is this board with the MSI 1650 4GT LP (Low profile). It looks like it would work great for this build. That with the pico power supply could make this build extremely portable.
I've always wanted to build an entire computer the size of a modern day large gpu, all cooled by the big heatsink too, so it looks like just a gpu but you plug it in and its a whole computer
This would work if you used a very short card, and a setup like this board or a lattepanda and put both of them under the heatsink of a larger GPU so the GPU and MOBO use up half and half of it
Would love to see a micro PC using a single fan GTX or even a single fan RTX 2060! Would also love to see if you can manage to get it folding! Third, can you plug in 2 GPUs? One in the other m.2 slot?
I would super interested in a tiny build video with external GPU that can handle vr rift s gaming, with easier titles like beat saber and order up VR. those don't take a lot of processing power. I don't have the money to try out the variations for which could do better configuration wise and which could handle it but if you could do the testing and make a video on it, it would be a win-win for us that are interested and you.
A rift s headset only requires one display port and one USB 3.0 port, any other USBs can be used for mouse and keyboard. and a portable pc display about 8x6 inches in size, some can run their own power from the HDMI port it's self. so no need to plug anything else into an outlet. Ideally with a frame to hold the GPU, motherboard, and power supply. smaller than a shoebox, and a tiny fold-up display on top. with ports in the front or back. just an idea i had in my head.
The strange thing is that the V1605B has a similar Passmark score to the Ryzen 3 2200G and that paired with an RX 580 manages better gaming performance. Perhaps the x4 PCI-E connection isn't fast enough.
nice video! and great SBC, but how about the performance with productivity applications, let say, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, VMware, etc?
Take it to the next step use the pico power supply. Adding some rgb will probably improve the fps too
Rgb always makes things quicker.
I'm pretty sure the rgb on my laptop doubles the fps, so just imagine what it could do here
Don't forget to download more ram.
Install windows 8 and 10.you get windows 18
@@lacktoes5838 windows 10???? get windows 95 or windows 2000...
That RX590 GPU has a parasite attached to it! .... oh wait, that's just the rest of the computer lol
the 590 is a beast. ultra bootleneck this processor and motherboard.
llolololl
hahahahhahahah
what a fun build idea, anyone know what the overall cost $ USD would be? might throw one in a old NES for a fun sleeper build.
Cpu stranding lol (death stranding 😛)
That's super cool stuff man. I love when you do the maker board with high end GPU thing, I can't believe you got Apex to work that well
You should send him Rx 5700 xt kaleidoscope edition, *who's Lisa Su*
TIMMY JOOOOEEE!!!
Heh. Until Artifacts shows up n spoil the show.🙁💐
Aha aha, sad timmy on his recent and vfx debacle 😢😭🤣
Jimmy Toe isn't verified?
I want to see you go completely nuts with this.
Pico PSU
GTX 1650
Custom case
RGB lights, if you want to.
Make this baby shine!
I hope so
Yeah... kinda same...
Do a full complete build with one of these Super Small Mobos and external GPU.
Could you get it all to fit it an actual case?
Could you make it smaller than a standard Mini-ITX?
ciredark pretty sure my super thin laptop (8750h and a 1070 outbenching overclocked 1070 desktop). Plus my laptop board will actually fit in a 15 inch diagonal measured 0.7 inch thick case (probably less, the outside dimension of my laptop without the screen is about 0.5 inch thick, or 13mm). My case of course has RGB keyboard included...
I will do with a custom wood enclosure.
Will look real cool. In a furniture desk setting
You pretty much nailed it when you said if you didn’t do it then who would. Always love seeing these cool videos. Always try to show them to my friends.
Please do that Pico PSU build that is much more interesting
I'd love to see a video with the 1650.
Thanks for doing these great videos Mr. Prime
Totally
nvidia is shit
1650 on a full desktop system is barely getting close to a RX570. On this board though they're both PCI-e limited and marginally CPU limited.
So you're just gonna get the same performance in a marginally smaller package. And you will still need a external power adapter mod if your 1650 doesn't have a PCI-e 6pin because the slot on the Udoo can't deliver enough power over the bus alone for these cards.
@@cybercat1531 Well yes but 1650 was built to not require much power and to not take up much space
Heck yeah. Do a build comparison using only 75w slot power and power it all with the Pico PSU! That would be the ultimate build in my mind as it wouldn't need the external ATX PSU.
Does the m.2 deliver enough wattage to deliver 75w?
@@mikaelkabraelian8518 It has a little power pigtail that you plug into the M.2 adapter that supplies slot power. Not sure if it supplies a full 75w but it's there.
I'm kind of impressed with the onboard video adapter to be honest
Thank you for sharing this. I am anxiously awaiting my Bolt V8 from the Kickstarter Campaign. I would like to see some links to the hardware you used in this build, especially the M.2 to PCIE adapter
, PCIE X4 Riser, and 90 degree adapter. My Amazon search has left me confused and I would like to get something that works. Please show more videos about the pico power supply too.
Do it! I've had this exact project in mind since I backed UDOO's kickstarter ages ago! Still waiting for my V8 tho!
I actually found your channel searching for the UDOO V8 some time ago :D
Definitely do the Pico build! Maybe in a custom small case with water cooling for kicks and giggles??
Yes, THIS!
This is one of those “I’m doing this just because I can” videos and it’s awesome. Obviously not practical due to cost, but still awesome to see. Keep them coming ETAPrime.
Small powerfull gaming computers with low power consumption is why I come back to this channel. They are definately the future standard, so it is cool to see what can be done with the tech we have now. Great video and a good experiment. Keep up the great work 👍
Man you have the best channel. I’ve never seen anyone do what you do, keep it up man!
the rx590 needs more power than a rx5700. so I was thinking that if you get a rx5700 you can undervolt and underclock it just around 100W, just enough for the picoPSU-160-XT 160w.
I always like it when you do these types of projects. Thanks so much for making the videos and explaining your results. Very interesting to see which games were CPU bound. I would LOVE to see you do a video with the 1650 if you get around to it
Did you try their 25W bios tweak they showed on their udoo youtube channel ? it seems to boost performance a lot !
This + the Nvidia GPU for a compact build would be dope
@@Bleats_Sinodai linux and rx 570 itx would be amazing
@@sleepingvalley8340 too power hungry
@@sleepingvalley8340 amd GPU is not great on linux
@@RmRoyalflush AMD is working great in linux its nvidia that cause some issues performance wise because nvidia didn't care about linux or linux gaming. i have rx570 with manjaro working amazingly
This board kicks a** for its small form factor!!! amazing work Prime.
Prime - I'd like to see the Pico in action with the UDoo + RX590, etc
100% was going to say I wanted to see the form fitting no external power build before you mentioned it. That looks like it could be a fantastic little cube beast.
The Pico solution sounds really great actually, would love to see that
Awesome! Being a fanatic about SBC cards, this is my next purchase. will be an amazing christmas gift.
Do the pico build, and add a 7 inch LCD screen, and see if a external battery pack/bank can power it
Great to try out weird and unique combinations to push the hardware. This helps to push tech and inspire people.
Hey, can you test de UDOO Bolt V8 at 25W power configuration? I think this can improve GTA V Performance.
Do that next build. Love your videos, man
Awesome mini Build , hope to see more builds with more affordable boards !
Very impressive, having so much power in such small form factor is just incredible.
If the bolt was more cost effective that would make for a awesome tiny build!
Bit it's not and is of low performance
Ok, Now Liquid Cool the CPU and see if you can help it stay at the higher boost clock :D Oh and do the 25W thing to the CPU! This could be a fun one!
That needs way too much space
Liquid cooled and stuff in a briefcase with a monitor.. Perfect port a rig
Yes it would be great when you make a video that focuses on PSUs 🙏
It is something cute, powerful and amazing to see working. But 418 US dollars without shipping to my country is a bit salty for me
the pico PSU would be perfect. Maybe build a case/chassis along with it?
In fact I believe a lot of people want cheap high performance itx PCs. So you could end up making a business out of it and reselling pre-built PCs. I would certainly buy it cuz of the size and price/performance ratio.
I see this as a powerful mobile pc/"laptop" and when got home connect to gpu with external and put in a highly cooled case box and you got everything you need
That's what I am doing shortly!
this is brilliant. Tiny board and a massive GPU. kinda makes it look cute
Yes, please show us that build. It would be nice for modern emulation in a small form factor.
I would love to see the 1650 build!!! Can you stuff it in a gamecube?! :-O
Love your videos, man. I find this stuff just as interesting as you do. The smaller the form factor, the better.
I'd like to see this with a 1650. Also, I think it would be cool to try to put this into a console case - e.g. Xbox 360 case or maybe it would even fit in a ps1 case. Just a thought :)
Wow that preformance in AC Odyssey is mad. That cpu power for that power consumtion is incredible
Whoah this is awesome..good thing my used rx470 that's lying around be put to good use,im buying this thing for portable lanparty😜
LowSpecGamer certainly knows some tricks to push performance with those boards, it's kinda his thing.
Then again, the price performance ratio really isn't doing too well here.
Still awesome to see something like that.
I'd put that in a vintage computer case and have it as a living room PC
Pfft... I'd build a custom tiny case using a smaller gpu(that one was at 50% utilization in every game). Or an old NES case.
I'd love to see you make a case for the bolt v8 + small gpu with pico psu
That is the coolest pc ever.. So small and yet powerful..
Would love to see more mods for this board! And interesting implementations
I love the aesthetic of the udoo bolt with the 1650 underneath. Tiny PC, as powerful as a modern console...
One day they'll make x86 boards and dedicated GPUs in even smaller form factors, like handheld consoles.
I’m definitely interested in the build with the 1650, but I’m ESPECIALLY interested in how it would perform on emulation! Would it appreciably increase Citra, Cemu and RPCS3 performance?
I definitely want to see the gtx 1650 on that board! These are awesome setups that are so out of the ordinary but really cool to see running. You said it, if not for yourself no one would do this type of setup!
After watching all of your videos i am absolutely buying one of these!!!!
I really want to see the gtx test. It looks too cool to pass.
Can you do the other GPU test in the next video please?
The card is gonna be blowing hot air straight onto the UDOO Bolt though :O
maybe this would be a rare scenario where a reference design would actually come in handy, since the single fan on reference cards would be on the opposite corner of the card.
Please make the supertiny build with the 1650! that 590 was so cpu-bound due to bottlenecking that there might be very little performance drop, and with a 3d-printed box, steam in big picture mode and a controller you might end up with the coolest minuscule 1080p console ever!
Hey RTA do you have any lower end cards to determine where you hit cpu limits and find a cheaper bang for buck setup. Love your vids.
A tiny HTPC with one of these udoo boards, an RX 550, and a slot loaded Blu-ray seems like a good idea.
What do you call those those desk mats you guys are always hooking up electronics/computer stuff on? My amazon searches have proved fruitless :(
I'm thinking of getting one and using it as a webserver. It's a bit OP, but still a lot cheaper than most server options.
I'd see that smaller build. With a modded mini pc case, or a 3d printed case, it'd be compact and actually make sense. Could mount it to the back of a TV, and have it as a gaming all in one. Stick on bigbox, a controller. Use to emulate more modern consoles dreamcast, ps2, game cube.
Could probably also run some decent higher level 1080P decoding for media with the CPU. Also I love how rockstar gear their games to CPU. Means you can run them on integrated graphics with a decent CPU.
i really would like to take this setup and plug my oculus quest in it. that would be the ultimate vr rig for me since it only uses a simple usb c cable
That would be nice and portable! You could even possibly get a hefty li-ion battery and put it all in a backpack that wouldn't weigh very much.
It would be very interesting the build with the pico power supply! Nice video as always!
Yeah. Also maybe make a little case for the whole thing to fit in. Portable e sports machine for on the go gaming.
Good job man
How will that ultimate build handle Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2, and Xbox games?
classic xbox emulation isn't great, even on much faster systems.
Just go ahead and redo the emulators that you just ran without the gpu.
@Russell White
Really? How much did this pic cost to build?
@@marcfitzgerald8068 Wackywee its not optimized, it's a silly test. Don't spend money copying this. The 590 could saturate 4x pcie3, plus as you saw in CPU intensive games the Udoo is already not enough to take advantage of that GPU. Pair it with 100 bucks each of the fastest ram and GPU you can get your hands on and emulating those systems should be fine (especially if you get a good deal on used equipment), with some tinkering for specific titles native fps should be acheivable on all those emulated systems
@@c4pt1n54no That's exactly what I thought. My $300 phone can do that and you don't have to carry a brick around
This just gave me an idea for a super small NAS, with a 4 or 8 drive HBA via the PCIE adaptor... Seems to have more than enough power for home storage needs
You should enable dual graphics in radeon settings
This is awesome! Thanks for sharing.
I’d love to see an ASRock x300 running a Ryzen 7 4750G strapped to a high and graphics card.
I am thinking about building a gaming computer for my son and his new wife. They both love all the old PS games and I thought I'd surprise them. Would love to see different options ie best bang for the buck type things.
Me: Oh wow, maybe I should consider this for my livingroom gaming computer.
*checks prices on the UDOO*
Me: Maybe someday!
yeah... the ideapad S340 w/ 3500U 4c/8t Vega8 was $370 yesterday. You dismantle that, use the board and it would be way cheaper since it has ram...
So much power for $750+ ?
If I use that money maybe we have a better performance PC ?
Hope to see this board cheaper in the future or at least as cheap as equal PC
@ETA PRIME The build I'd personally do is this board with the MSI 1650 4GT LP (Low profile). It looks like it would work great for this build. That with the pico power supply could make this build extremely portable.
That x4 lane ain’t doing ya any favors, but this is really cool none the less.
A nice and informative video for the pc enthusiasts.
Please do comparison tests that are they same across the board. Comparing high to ultra is literally apples and oranges. Do both on each setup please.
This build with watercooler🤤🤤🤤
I've always wanted to build an entire computer the size of a modern day large gpu, all cooled by the big heatsink too, so it looks like just a gpu but you plug it in and its a whole computer
This would work if you used a very short card, and a setup like this board or a lattepanda and put both of them under the heatsink of a larger GPU so the GPU and MOBO use up half and half of it
Absolutely want to see that 1650 and pico. I'd imagine that would be the best Emulator console box ever for everything ps3/xbox360 and before
Would love to see a micro PC using a single fan GTX or even a single fan RTX 2060!
Would also love to see if you can manage to get it folding!
Third, can you plug in 2 GPUs? One in the other m.2 slot?
Nice to see the amd card, with the amd board, they do work well together, great video looking forward to the next one.
I really want to see this in a tiny custom case with a water loop and overclocked (if possible on the CPU)
It was mistake comparing high 1080p to low 720p. You should have done the same settings for both.
whatever you have to post mate, loved this one. just got subscribed.
great video ETA Prime!
yes please, I'd love to see a build with picoPSU + a case.
Cool mini build very informative do some more.
That's an Amazing sbc in the world who offers you the powerful processor ryzen 5 in small factor
The 1650 makes a smaller package, and looks better
I would super interested in a tiny build video with external GPU that can handle vr rift s gaming, with easier titles like beat saber and order up VR. those don't take a lot of processing power. I don't have the money to try out the variations for which could do better configuration wise and which could handle it but if you could do the testing and make a video on it, it would be a win-win for us that are interested and you.
A rift s headset only requires one display port and one USB 3.0 port, any other USBs can be used for mouse and keyboard. and a portable pc display about 8x6 inches in size, some can run their own power from the HDMI port it's self. so no need to plug anything else into an outlet. Ideally with a frame to hold the GPU, motherboard, and power supply. smaller than a shoebox, and a tiny fold-up display on top. with ports in the front or back. just an idea i had in my head.
This is cool, I got a Asrock Deskmini 300 myself. I can totally try this when I'm free.
ETA prime is a good voice for radio show or movie.
If they integrated cell phone ram32GB of Gddr6, would be perfect, would use less energy.
Wish you did a comparison with the gtx. It makes more sense to go for a smaller card on a system like this.
and now this setup is just like the razer tomahawk
When testing Project Cars 2 a good idea is to have a full Grid of cars to get an idea of in game performance.
The strange thing is that the V1605B has a similar Passmark score to the Ryzen 3 2200G and that paired with an RX 580 manages better gaming performance. Perhaps the x4 PCI-E connection isn't fast enough.
Very nice video! Please do also a test with Nvidia 1650. And if you could make a custom case with it, that would look awesome.
Soon enough this will be the new standard, hopefully :D
Would like to see it being filmed running benchmark to see the actual setup.
nice video! and great SBC, but how about the performance with productivity applications, let say, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects, VMware, etc?
Finally gpu becomes a ship board. Wecome aboard!
It's all ways fun when you put the big graphic card on the small board computer.